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| lbt | OK - I have an rpm from the SDK (thanks to w00t's alternative quickbuild 'mb') | 00:53 |
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| kulve | when pressing the power button, tklock_mode_ind=locked is sent but immediately after that I see tklock_mode_ind=unlocked with dbus-monitor --system (and the screen just blanks briefly). Any idea what's happening? | 05:25 |
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| situ | Morning all | 06:01 |
| Bostik | morning | 06:01 |
| chriadam | gmorning | 06:05 |
| iekku | morning | 06:14 |
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| E-P | Morgen | 06:22 |
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| vgrade | morn | 06:34 |
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| Stskeeps | E-P: starting to fit in with the locals, i see? | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:49 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps: heh, little by little | 06:59 |
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| lbt | morning auri__ | 08:14 |
| lbt | you ping'ed yesterday? | 08:14 |
| lbt | also I have packaging 'working' at a preliminary level | 08:15 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 08:38 |
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| ljp | Stskeeps: Lars announced he is beginning to transfer mobility to gerrit, FYI | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: cool | 08:55 |
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| auri__ | lbt: morning | 08:57 |
| auri__ | yes.. I had some problems wioth the script | 08:57 |
| auri__ | I ironed them out mostly | 08:57 |
| auri__ | but I did not understand the purpose of "cd $PWD" | 08:58 |
| auri__ | I mean should that be cd $HOME/XXX instead? | 08:58 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: any document about Mer porting to unknown hardware? | 09:04 |
| dm8tbr | have you checked the wiki? | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: wiki has good guides | 09:04 |
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| dcthang | ok, I'll check. Thanks both of you :-) | 09:05 |
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| lbt | auri__: no... the $PWD is evaluated in the host machine and inserted into the ssh command | 09:12 |
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| lbt | so the remote command gets a literal "cd /home/XX/src/project" .... it currently assumes a 1:1 mapping for src directories (I think that's stated somewhere) | 09:13 |
| kulve | If I get my hw adaptation out at some point, I could try to add something about battery, wifi, display, gpio keys, etc to that porting guide. I guess it's currently lacking quite much. | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:14 |
| kulve | e.g. for gfx, there are two sentences, although it could explain more detailed what GL/ES extensions are needed for which functionality | 09:15 |
| kulve | also I don't fully understand how one is supposed to provide GLES devel packages to Mer | 09:15 |
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| kulve | I guess they shouldn't actually | 09:17 |
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| Stskeeps | well, it's a matter of providing libGLESv2.so.2 and libEGL.so.1 | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | and that's about it | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, devel packages are a sore point | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | we build against mesa typically | 09:18 |
| kulve | and I guess that's enough usually. Build against that and they should work also with any HA | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:19 |
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| kulve | I have needed to modify some packages in my repo to depend explicitly on the devel packages for my hw but I guess that's only because I've compiled them in the HA project when they actually should have not be compiled in there but in something more generic.. | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:22 |
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| lbt | auri__: ping ... I just pulled the latest code. Can we discuss it a bit? it feels like the Kit part is getting reworked a few times whilst we've not started on things like the packaging page or components? | 09:33 |
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| sledges | good mornang | 09:58 |
| CosmoHill | hey sledges | 09:58 |
| CosmoHill | damn, not fast enough | 09:58 |
| sledges | 8) | 09:58 |
| sledges | hadn't have my coffee either | 09:58 |
| CosmoHill | I'm gonna have a shave then give my car a damn good wash | 09:59 |
| sledges | ook :) | 09:59 |
| CosmoHill | and this time not throw the bucket of water over the top when i'm finished | 09:59 |
| CosmoHill | threw a load of crud over my clean car >.< | 09:59 |
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| sledges | i have exactly similar photo with bucket thrown over, and a cat on a bonnet not having a clue of what's coming | 09:59 |
| sledges | crud = ouch | 10:00 |
| sledges | Create,Retrieve,Update,Delete :) | 10:00 |
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| auri__ | lbt: ping | 10:07 |
| auri__ | pong! | 10:07 |
| lbt | hey :) | 10:08 |
| auri__ | well the kit part is what I am looking into | 10:08 |
| lbt | ah - someone else is on pkging and components? | 10:08 |
| auri__ | while aportale is taking care of packaging | 10:08 |
| lbt | yep | 10:08 |
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| auri__ | wrt components, well we havent got any yet so on one has picked that up yet | 10:08 |
| lbt | OK | 10:09 |
| lbt | well ... on the kit side: just playing with the new commit... saw a couple of probs in the script | 10:09 |
| lbt | well. one really | 10:09 |
| auri__ | the reason I am reworking the kit part is to minimize work for setting up the targets | 10:09 |
| lbt | *nod* | 10:09 |
| lbt | ssh $SSH_OPTS -p ${SDK_SSH_PORT} ${SDK_SSH_USER}@localhost "export SB2_TARGET='${MER_SB2_TARGET}'; export MER_SYSROOT='${MER_SYSROOT}'; sb2 -t ${MER_SB2_TARGET} $ex $@" | 10:10 |
| auri__ | well I am still updating the script so wait!! | 10:10 |
| auri__ | for a bit | 10:10 |
| lbt | np | 10:10 |
| auri__ | :) | 10:10 |
| lbt | I use /usr/local/bin/sb2_run which essentially does sb2 -t $SB2_TARGET $ex $@ if there is a value and does $ex $@ otherwise | 10:10 |
| auri__ | yup | 10:10 |
| lbt | that's to work around a prob with i486 atm | 10:10 |
| auri__ | but why specify the full path | 10:11 |
| auri__ | uh oh! | 10:11 |
| lbt | 'cos it's not packaged / installed yet | 10:11 |
| lbt | your script misses the -t | 10:11 |
| lbt | also | 10:11 |
| lbt | I typo'ed export SB2_TARGET='${MER_B2_TARGET}' | 10:11 |
| auri__ | no wonder it works for me since I have set the default | 10:11 |
| auri__ | grr | 10:11 |
| auri__ | stupid mistake | 10:11 |
| lbt | not MER_SB2_TARGET | 10:11 |
| lbt | that's why we're both hacking on it and sharing code frequently :) | 10:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: you busy - need to have a plan to build for i486 nemo using SDK | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | i486 nemo can be done, i586 more difficult | 10:12 |
| lbt | how? | 10:13 |
| lbt | I'd like an sb2 target if at all possible | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | i486 we have, find tswindell's toolchain project on cobs | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | i586 is more complex as we have to make a i586 toolchain for i486.. | 10:13 |
| lbt | OK - so that's an sb2 capable null cross-compile setup ? | 10:13 |
| kulve | I added Peripherals sections to wiki and some notes to gfx section | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: right | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: thank you | 10:14 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: and it differs from standard because it has a sysroot enabled ld ? | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | it's an actual cross compiler | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | cross-i486-binutils and cross-i486-gcc | 10:14 |
| lbt | can I get it in -next like today? | 10:14 |
| lbt | and do a snapshot later/tomorrow | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | make a patch to gcc based on what's there right now, send to gerrit | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | and we can do that, yes | 10:15 |
| lbt | OK | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | gcc and binutils | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | i586 is more difficult | 10:16 |
| lbt | I'm good with i486 for now | 10:16 |
| lbt | main thing for me is to build stuff to deploy to a Nemo VM in vbox | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok | 10:17 |
| lbt | auri__: I'm going to get on this now. Can you ask aportale to ping me when he's around. I have a template and docs for making a package | 10:17 |
| auri__ | sure | 10:17 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: incidentally I build a 7-package .ks minimal rootfs for Nemo now | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: how big does it get, ooi? | 10:18 |
| lbt | 275Mb | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'd be interested in seeing the packages list from the image | 10:18 |
| lbt | 4 -devel pkgs and rpm-build+meego + shadow-utils to support mic | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but like, with dependencies | 10:19 |
| lbt | oh yeah | 10:19 |
| lbt | but it's still quite neat - and amenable to dynamic building | 10:20 |
| lbt | which means easy+custom updates too | 10:20 |
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| sledges | has anyone successfully setup qtcreator on Desktop PC to cross compile for armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc ? | 10:42 |
| sledges | (qt5 ideally) | 10:42 |
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| lbt | yes, no | 10:43 |
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| Bostik | cross-compiling qt5's qtwebkit for arm is still in a bind | 10:44 |
| sledges | let's start with the yes | 10:44 |
| sledges | I'll just need to crosscompile a helloworld | 10:44 |
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| yunta | uh, sdk vm systemd seems to ignore TTYPath :( | 10:49 |
| lbt | sledges: I'm a bit swamped at the minute though. that vbox page gives hints. We use a git HEAD version of QtCreator which kinda works | 10:52 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/User:Tswindell/Qt_Creator_And_Mer_Integration also | 10:52 |
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| sledges | awesome lbt , I'll try to hook on those hooks | 11:06 |
| lbt | and if it's not urgent then we're doing the heavy lifting over the next weeks | 11:07 |
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| aportale | lbt: pong :) | 11:12 |
| sledges | it is urgent :{ | 11:15 |
| sledges | so will try to get as much far as I can for now, next week I'm off to LinuxCon/ELCE'12 | 11:15 |
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| lbt | aportale: hey | 11:20 |
| lbt | so I have some packaging stuff | 11:20 |
| lbt | aportale: http://pastie.org/5166124 | 11:23 |
| lbt | then we run '(cd rpm; specify); mb build -t nemo_n9_min rpm/qmltrial.spec' | 11:24 |
| lbt | and we have a package | 11:24 |
| lbt | now I'm using yaml because I think it'll be easier to manage from within Qt longer term | 11:24 |
| lbt | and we support spectacle in Mer | 11:24 |
| lbt | for the initial phase we can simply treat the yaml file as simple text with key: value pairs for the entries | 11:25 |
| lbt | aportale: my suggestion is a list of known key/values and then a generic key/type/value entries where the value is a simple textbox and type describes the format in the yaml | 11:28 |
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| aportale | lbt: Which keys should be user settable in the gui? I see Name, Summary, Version and Description as good candidates. | 11:31 |
| aportale | lbt: Is Group "Qt/Qt" always correct for any Qt based app? Also ones with QML and qt-components? | 11:32 |
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| aportale | lbt: Also, what is the typical name for the yaml file, <projectname>.yaml? Is it by convention located in an rpm subdirectory? | 11:34 |
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| lbt | all "yes" | 11:36 |
| lbt | We'll probably have PkgConfigBR: \n - "QtDeclarative" | 11:38 |
| lbt | as a default too | 11:38 |
| aportale | lbt: Question about "Description". Can it have multiple lines? And is that '|' the new-line character? Is the file encoding utf-8? | 11:41 |
| lbt | yes it can (that's why I want a 'type' : I see 3 types: simple value, multi-line and 'list' which is multi-line with a - in front | 11:42 |
| aportale | lbt: Right. I just found the types here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle#Syntax_of_spectacle_YAML | 11:44 |
| lbt | nb if you treat this as json I think that should work | 11:44 |
| lbt | nb I was talking more about a super-simple yaml | 11:45 |
| lbt | at the type level | 11:45 |
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| lbt | I don't want to build a spectacle parser (yet?) | 11:46 |
| lbt | hence the focus on a few known key/values and a generic key/value/type for advanced use | 11:46 |
| lbt | that should cover 99% of usage | 11:47 |
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| aportale | lbt: Is the complete source of qmltrial somewhere? Just curious about the overall directory structure of typical Nemo apps. | 11:55 |
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| lbt | aportale: it's not a Nemo app - it says "hello world" in qml and calls a C++ to ensure proper linking | 12:02 |
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| aportale | lbt: Right. I am still a bit unsure about where the projects overlap. So, I am safe to call this a Mer Qt/QML app, and the packaging file would be something like a "Mer package specification". Correct? | 12:04 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/5166290 | 12:04 |
| lbt | yes | 12:04 |
| aportale | lbt: thanks. | 12:05 |
| lbt | I'd currently expect any vendor to use the same packaging too | 12:05 |
| aportale | lbt: That would make sense. | 12:06 |
| lbt | so I'm seeing this as a component that would be used by any Mer Vendor | 12:06 |
| lbt | bad terminology :) | 12:06 |
| lbt | when we work on the Designer components then I'd make that a discrete plugin as I'd expect vendors to customise/replace that | 12:06 |
| lbt | so that qmltrial is actually a standard QtCreator template | 12:07 |
| lbt | so lots of extra boilerplate - but I think those bits where what I changed | 12:07 |
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| lbt | I'm looking for someone to put together a simple Nemo app 'RSN' that I can write some docs/tutorial around | 12:08 |
| aportale | lbt: Talking about boilerplate. Did yyou have to tweak anything in QmlApplicationViewer.cpp/h/pri? | 12:09 |
| lbt | not for this app | 12:09 |
| lbt | but that's why I want a proper Nemo one | 12:09 |
| lbt | (I know my limits!) | 12:10 |
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| aportale | lbt: Sanity check: putting that into an rpm directory is good old standard in Mer, and you would like to see that in the Qt Creator template, aswell. | 12:12 |
| aportale | lbt: Not a big effort, but I better ask before. | 12:13 |
| lbt | yeah it's the best solution for now | 12:13 |
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| aportale | lbt: What about a "Vendor" in the yaml? | 12:34 |
| lbt | why do you ask? | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | aportale: not obligatory, but may be useful | 12:35 |
| aportale | lbt: I would have expected to see one. And I can add it with 0.01 effort :) | 12:36 |
| * lbt ponders what it would mean/do | 12:36 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: rpm vendor field | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | you know, the thing obs replaces | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:37 |
| lbt | yeah - my concern is around that | 12:37 |
| lbt | and not sure specify supports it | 12:38 |
| aportale | Stskeeps, lbt: We can add it later. | 12:38 |
| lbt | Warning: Unexpected keys found: Vendor | 12:38 |
| aportale | lbt: OK :) | 12:38 |
| lbt | so leave it for now | 12:38 |
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| lbt | alterego: ping... home:tswindell:mer:core:i486 is empty ... did you move the i486 cross- stuff somewhere | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | look in :i586 | 12:50 |
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| lbt | !! ... I just remembered you saying the i586 cross wasn't working *g* | 12:52 |
| Merbot | lbt: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 12:52 |
| lbt | !! STFU | 12:52 |
| Merbot | lbt: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 12:52 |
| alterego | lol | 13:00 |
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| jusa_ | hmm zypper up and X doesn't get up on Nemo, [ 445.214] PVR2D_Init() failed | 14:15 |
| jusa_ | devices is N9 | 14:16 |
| phaeron | jusa_: sledges seems to have same issue in #nemomobile | 14:17 |
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| jusa_ | phaeron: ok | 14:19 |
| sledges | yup, same PVR2D_Init() failed | 14:21 |
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| auri__ | baby steps and its fragile | 14:59 |
| auri__ | but hello world build in QtC :) | 14:59 |
| auri__ | phew! | 14:59 |
| auri__ | builds | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 15:00 |
| auri__ | lbt: aportale: give it a try but dont crib for unexpected crashes! still need to iron them out | 15:04 |
| lbt | :) | 15:05 |
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| lbt | something not 100% right here | 15:12 |
| lbt | /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qatomic_i386.h:132:29: error: impossible constraint in 'asm' | 15:12 |
| lbt | which is odd for an armv7hl build :) | 15:12 |
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| auri__ | lbt: for some reason in the sysroot "/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/default -> linux-g++" | 15:45 |
| auri__ | can you tell me why? | 15:46 |
| auri__ | should that be linux-g++-maemo ? | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | we use a default config | 15:47 |
| auri__ | hmm .. the thing is that the compiler is in MerSDk and not in the sysroot | 15:50 |
| auri__ | now how do I fetch mkspec data in this case ? :( | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | runnin 'gcc' inside sb2 should do the right thing | 15:51 |
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| auri__ | yes that builds.. what lbt: pointed out was the code model picks up the wrong header | 15:51 |
| auri__ | but of course since qtc takes the default one in sysroot which pints to x86 linux-g++ | 15:52 |
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| lbt | sorry - was discussing QtDevDay... | 15:52 |
| auri__ | \spoints | 15:52 |
| lbt | auri__: ah | 15:52 |
| auri__ | the build is proper .. its only the code model that is a bit screwed up | 15:52 |
| auri__ | the way I see it is that there should be a compatible compiler set as default in the sysroot | 15:53 |
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| lbt | auri__: I think we need to consider ~/MerSDKs/<target>/ as being in the PATH for qtc ? | 15:57 |
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| lbt | if I run gcc in that location I get (of course) Target: armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi | 15:57 |
| lbt | (do we need g++ wrapper too?) | 15:57 |
| auri__ | I think you misunderstood me | 15:58 |
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| auri__ | When building a project, qtc checks in the sysroot for the mkspec .. and that is a problem | 16:00 |
| auri__ | it looks in /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/ .. | 16:00 |
| auri__ | if you see the compiler in the Build&Run options page the gcc abi is correctly set | 16:01 |
| lbt | yep | 16:01 |
| lbt | less which file in mkspecs? | 16:01 |
| auri__ | it picks whatever is pointed as default | 16:02 |
| auri__ | i.e symlinked to default | 16:02 |
| lbt | so linux-g++/ | 16:02 |
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| auri__ | yes | 16:05 |
| lbt | this isn't my area - so I need an explanation of why this is not expected I'm afraid :/ | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: walk me through what gets looked at and what gets set? | 16:08 |
| lbt | I'm wondering if qtc is assuming that linux-g++ is x86 | 16:08 |
| auri__ | tomo maybe?.. leaving in a few mins | 16:08 |
| lbt | or possibly is looking in / and not /$sysroot/ | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: sure | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: have a good evening | 16:08 |
| auri__ | its looking in $SYSROOT/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/ | 16:09 |
| auri__ | so thats not a problem | 16:09 |
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| lbt | auri__: and ty for today - been a good one :) | 16:09 |
| auri__ | lbt: :) np | 16:09 |
| lbt | ah... I may see it | 16:11 |
| lbt | ssh $SSH_OPTS -p ${SDK_SSH_PORT} ${SDK_SSH_USER}@localhost 'export SB2_TARGET="'${MER_SB2_TARGET}'"; export MER_SYSROOT="'${MER_SYSROOT}'"; cd "'${BUILD_DIR}'"; sb2 -t $SB2_TARGET "'$ex $ARGS'"' | 16:11 |
| lbt | sb2 -t $SB2_TARGET | 16:12 |
| lbt | that is expanded host side and export SB2_TARGET="'${MER_SB2_TARGET}' is only set vm-side | 16:12 |
| lbt | sb2 -t $MER_SB2_TARGET | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | this reminds me a bit of MADDE, but in shell script | 16:13 |
| * Stskeeps runs | 16:13 | |
| lbt | it will simplify :) | 16:13 |
| lbt | there we go: | 16:13 |
| lbt | (ERROR)[sb2d][9144]Lua interpreter PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (...2-mersdk-20121101-161315.IH9091/lua_scripts/init.lua:35: $Error while loading /tmp/sb2-mersdk-20121101-161315.IH9091/exec_config.lua: $/tmp/sb2-mersdk-20121101-161315.IH9091/exec_config.lua:9: unexpected symbol near '.'$)$ | 16:14 |
| lbt | sb2d: Lua interpreter PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (...2-mersdk-20121101-161315.IH9091/lua_scripts/init.lua:35: | 16:14 |
| lbt | Error while loading /tmp/sb2-mersdk-20121101-161315.IH9091/exec_config.lua: | 16:14 |
| lbt | /tmp/sb2-mersdk-20121101-161315.IH9091/exec_config.lua:9: unexpected symbol near '.' | 16:14 |
| lbt | much better :) | 16:14 |
| lbt | sweet dreams auri__ :D | 16:14 |
| auri__ | :) | 16:14 |
| auri__ | 2u2 | 16:14 |
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| lbt | hmm - it's a pure Mer issue | 16:28 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: where is the gold enabled binutils? | 17:08 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: same place | 17:14 |
| lbt | good - not missing a commit then | 17:15 |
| situ | Stskeeps: hey | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 17:16 |
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| situ | Supersede the old requests ? | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:16 |
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| situ | That created a new requet. | 17:17 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 17:18 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: I updated all my SRs for blts tests. | 17:29 |
| situ | Let me know if there's any other task. | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | situ: thanks | 17:34 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: Bostik had a problem with gcc not using gold | 18:14 |
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| lbt | looking at %define crossextraconfig --disable-libstdcxx-pch --with-arch=i486 --with-gnu-as=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-as --with-gnu-ld=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-ld --with-as=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-as --with-ld=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-ld | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | that's for the cross | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | it didnt for the older one either | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 18:20 |
| lbt | ok | 18:20 |
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| Bostik | lbt: yeah, so I cheated horribly in the spec; it's probably a compile time option to even enable alternate linker in gcc 4.6 | 18:28 |
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| ljp | Stskeeps: mobility upstream. no CI. ssh://codereview.qt-project.org:29418/qt-mobility/qt-mobility.git | 19:17 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I think all I need to change is gcc/binutils/sb2-tools-template : should I just push them indivdually? | 20:15 |
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| yunta | henrik_: I've closed last problem I had in my list for sdk vm. So we can write progress-view tomorrow. | 21:19 |
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