Tuesday, 2012-10-30

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sonachmorning all00:39
chriadamgmorning sonach00:40
sonachchriadam: hey :)00:40
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situMorning everyone05:32
chriadammorning situ05:33
situ:)05:33
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Stskeepsmorning06:09
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rcgmorning06:51
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kulvewhat should happen when I press the power key? How do I tell the framework what is the power key?07:35
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Stskeepskulve: i think either dsme or mce handles that, in practice you need to have it mapping to power key in X07:42
Stskeepsi think07:42
kulveis the idea to suspend-to-ram or something similar, when the key is pressed?07:43
Stskeepswell, lock screen07:43
Stskeeps / turn off screen07:43
Stskeepswe're not nearly there yet with android wakelocks integration yet07:44
kulveok. Suspend would probably be too much07:44
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kulveStskeeps: do you happen to know if evtest is already in some repo?08:16
Stskeepshttps://build.pub.meego.com/search/search?search_text=evtest&commit=Search&project=1&package=1&name=1&attribute=&advanced=on&issue_tracker=bnc+%28Novell+Bugzilla%29&issue_name=08:16
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kulveah, the search on the bottom of the page works and the search on the top gives you some error. I've always only tried the top one08:19
kulvethanks08:19
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auri__morn08:40
auri__I misplaced the link that lbt had given from where I could download the working Nemo image08:41
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auri__was it http://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/mer-sdk-nemo-i486-vm-sda.vdi.bz2 ?08:45
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lbtmorning all09:17
lbthey auri__09:17
auri__hi09:17
lbthttp://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121023-152417/ I think09:17
auri__I dl from http://img.merproject.org/images/web/lbt/2-20121025-175207/09:17
auri__uh ok09:17
auri__tx09:18
lbtyes, I think that's the same09:18
lbtI rebuilt it to test the VM migration to a new host09:18
auri__k09:18
lbtalso I accidentally pushed to the mer branch instead of my branch - sry09:18
lbtI fixed it09:18
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lbthttps://qt.gitorious.org/~lbt/qt-creator/lbts-qt-creator/commit/26b783c6fd75cb8a8016819d8637839ad4258eef09:19
lbtsegfault issue09:19
auri__coz of data.last() and data.first().. hmm09:20
auri__but I am wondering how can data be empty , since we store it in the file as a lost and read it as a list09:21
auri__*list09:21
auri__\s lost\ list09:21
lbtI'm guessing it's invoked early09:21
auri__it could be that you had the older settings file where i was saving it as a QString ..09:22
lbtah09:22
lbtI probably would have, yes09:22
auri__so with the new version, it tried to read the QString but when converting to a QList it returned an empty list09:22
lbtyour choice - I don't know if the settings file could get corrupted or accidentally broken when editing09:23
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henrik__lbt: about your sdk-webapp-bundle. i did copypack from it and i get "unresolvable" "nothing provides rubygems_with_buildroot_patch, nothing provides rubygem-bundler, nothing provides git". Why it works in your branch and not mine?09:30
lbtwhat target do you build against09:30
henrik__Mer_Core_armv7hl and Mer_Core_i48609:31
lbtand me?09:32
henrik__same09:32
lbtwhat other packages are in my project?09:33
lbtwhat other (relevant) packages are in my project?09:33
lbtdon't forget that in order to resolve build deps, OBS looks in the current project too09:33
Jake9xxzuh: ping09:33
henrik__rubygem-bundler (well i have the same problem there as well)09:33
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lbthenrik__: sec09:34
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lbtauri__: https://qt.gitorious.org/~lbt/qt-creator/lbts-qt-creator/commit/1767cc6faf52bd589c0ed8861fc5e66864ed166509:35
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lbthenrik__: so in general when you copy a package from a project that contains supporting packages, you build against that project09:37
auri__cool.. thanks09:37
lbtauri__: so I put some explain/usage at the top - can you scan it and confirm it makes sense09:38
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lbtyour C++ essentially needs to write 2 lines like "MER_SYSROOT=/srv/mer/targets/nemo_n9" into ~/MerSDKs/<targetname>/mer_target.config09:39
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auri__ya.. LGTM09:39
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lbtso targetoptionspage.cpp should be easier - also if we add more advanced options we can easily just write them out09:40
lbtOK - next for me is a packaging wrapper I think09:40
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lbtnb what do I need to do for commits to be acceptable?09:41
lbtmaybe discuss in email if we need to?09:41
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lbtI'm thinking (C) and license etc09:42
lbtnot sure how they work on plugins09:42
auri__© will be yours .. in case of a new file committed by you09:43
auri__for example the qmake file you just provided09:43
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lbtOK - and patches have signoff ?09:44
Stskeepsqt-creator is in gerrit?09:44
Stskeepsjust thinking CCLA and such09:44
auri__License .. i am not sure.. I think it is LGPL09:44
lbtwe're on gitorious atm09:44
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auri__for eg: http://pastebin.com/EwfHRkzS09:45
auri__Stskeeps: yup qt-creator is in gerrit09:45
Stskeepsok, so lbt needs to have an active CCLA09:45
auri__but mer branch is now on gitorious only09:46
Stskeepsok09:46
auri__will be merged to mainline sometime in the future09:46
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Jake9xxx(+i) (zZzZ)] [2:ircnet/#mer(+Ccnt)] [Act: 3,8,9]09:50
Jake9xx[#mer]09:50
lbtJake9xx: if you say so09:51
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lbthenrik__: did that sort you out btw?10:01
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lbtah henrik__ https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Albt%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting10:04
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Jake9xxlbt: whoa, keyboard did some magic there.. nasty machines these are :)10:18
Jake9xxzuh: ping10:19
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sledgeswonder if gionni88 (creator of qmlradio on TMO) is still around; I'm looking for the source code :)10:25
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henrik__lbt: thanks. that did the trick10:33
lbtgood10:34
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sledgesfellows could this be mer issue (after updating Nemo yesterday and rebooting, nemo bug#551): multiple "systemd-udevd[763]: worker [817] did not accept message -1 (Connection refused)" and cannot boot anymore10:38
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Stskeepssledges: what nemo from and to10:41
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sledgesfrom 0.20120920.1.NEMO.2012-10-07.1 and 0.20120816.1.NEMO.2012-08-31.1 to zypper ref & up on 2012-10-2910:42
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Stskeepsmaybe there were some things that broke10:42
sledgesapparently something is broken on repository now10:43
sledgesit's i586 btw10:43
sledgesso might be hw specific10:43
sledges(udevd(10:43
sledgesand I believe current development is concentrated around arm10:43
Stskeepswe qa on x86 though10:43
sledgesoh good, then it will eventually get under the radar10:45
sledgesI can provide more info under that bug10:45
sledgesquestoin is, should it be recategorised under mer?10:45
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Stskeepssledges: perhaps it's better to recreate the bug10:59
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sroedalStskeeps: http://cdn.publishme.se/cdn/8-2/173971/images/2009/mer_47019190.jpg11:01
sledges:)11:01
Stskeepshehe11:01
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situStskeeps: Have you registered name Mer ?11:02
Stskeepsno, it's not really a brand anyawy11:02
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yuntawtf is /home/abuild ?12:18
Stskeepscomes from OBS builds?12:18
Stskeepswhere are you encountering it?12:18
yuntahardcoded in spec12:19
Stskeepsplease kill whoever has done that12:19
yuntalol12:19
yunta%{buildroot} instead?12:19
Stskeepsyes12:20
yuntathx12:20
yuntawhat if I need to address BUILD and not BUILDROOT ?12:22
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yuntashould I copy that thing I want to address to buildroot first?12:22
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lbtyunta: where ?12:33
lbtso   /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qstring.h:597:5: error: ‘QString::QString(const char*)’ is private  ..... good to know12:34
lbtI hate decoding c++ error messages12:34
Bostikoookaaayy...12:34
lbtlike, I don't give a shit about the headers... what line of my code is broken ?12:35
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VDVsxlbt, should say before that line12:45
lbtam I a moron?  wtf is wrong with this line:     QString MERWRAPPER = "/usr/share/qtcreator/plugins/mer/qmake-wrapper";12:45
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phaeronlbt: use single quotes12:49
Stskeepserr..12:49
phaeronI think12:50
lbtyep, works12:50
Bostikwtf?12:50
lbtyou're telling me12:50
phaeron:D12:50
phaeron\o/12:50
lbtMERWRAPPER = '/usr/share/qtcreator/plugins/mer/qmake-wrapper';              is good12:50
lbtMERWRAPPER = "/usr/share/qtcreator/plugins/mer/qmake-wrapper";              fails12:50
Stskeepsexcept that's not even remotely valid c is it12:50
Stskeepsi mean 'c' is the character c12:50
phaeronlbt: print it , make sure it takes the whole string12:51
Bostikcan't remember who said it but _someone_ quipped once: "Qt is not C++, it's a language of its own"12:51
Bostikrather harsh but apparently still holds water12:52
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lbtI really, really don't get this12:53
kulveI provide gst-plugins-bad but there's some package that requires gst-plugins-bad-free. What kind of Provides/Obsoletes/etc. trickery I should do to fullfill the -free dependency with my gst-plugins-bad package?12:53
Stskeepskulve: conflicts/provides?12:53
phaeronlbt: so it might be something else too12:53
Stskeepsisn't it like QString MERWRAPPER("foo"); instead?12:53
sledgesQString MERWRAPPER = QString("/usr/share/qtcreator/plugins/mer/qmake-wrapper"); ?12:53
lbttried that ... but http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qstring.html#details says  QString str = "Hello";12:54
MSameerlbt: check that QT_NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII is not defined12:54
lbtMSameer: ah.... that sounds reasonable12:54
phaeronthat's why I don't like C++12:55
phaeron:D12:55
lbtsrc/plugins/mer/Makefile:DEFINES       = ... -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII12:55
lbtMSameer: fucking stupid error message  :)12:55
MSameerlbt: use QString::fromAscii()12:56
yuntalbt: I'm back on track with 3.6.1. Fcked up vbox tools packaging yesterday. 3.6.1 works with slinks now. Stress-testing in progress.12:56
MSameerlbt: it's better12:56
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* lbt hugs MSameer ... and is kinda glad that no-one else got it instantly too :)12:56
MSameerlbt: QString MERWRAPPER = QString::fromAscii("/usr/share/qtcreator/plugins/mer/qmake-wrapper");12:57
MSameerhehe12:57
* MSameer blushes12:57
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lbtah, this one's easier: /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qstringbuilder.h: In static member function ‘static void QConcatenable<QStringBuilder<A, B> >::appendTo(const type&, T*&) [with T = QChar, A = QStringBuilder<QString, QChar>, B = char [6], QConcatenable<QStringBuilder<A, B> >::type = QStringBuilder<QStringBuilder<QString, QChar>, char [6]>]’:12:58
lbtsilly me :)12:58
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mordindeed12:59
* mord hides12:59
MSameerlbt: what are you doing ?12:59
lbthey you ...12:59
lbtMSameer: QString qmakeExe = targetPath + QDir::separator() + "qmake";  .... I think12:59
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MSameerlbt: use QStringBuilder for that12:59
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lbt*nod* ... I think my Qt knowledge is just too old :)13:00
lbtmord: you still got my books?13:00
iekkulbt, almost said "like you" :P13:00
* lbt challenges iekku to a night out dancing!13:01
lbtoh yeah13:01
lbtanswer quickly though ... time for my afternoon nap soon :D13:01
mordlbt: i do. perfectly preserved and waiting to return home :)13:02
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lbt*g* ... did you enjoy them?13:02
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mordi did, thanks. i seem to have acquired copies of my own even13:03
yuntawhat triggers grubby on kernel install? there's only modprobe in kernel.spec %post13:03
lbtmord: they're definite classics - so black and white too13:03
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mordindeed13:03
* lbt notes that E.E. 'Doc' Smith's Q-ray will just laugh at yunta's poxy lasers ...13:04
yuntaqray?13:05
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lbtoh yeah ... seriously mean13:05
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yuntasounds mean13:06
yuntaat least13:06
lbt"He thrust out tractor beams of his own, and from the already white-hot refractors throats of his projectors there raved out horribly potent beams of annihilation, beams of dreadful power which tore madly at the straining defensive screens of the Patrol ship."13:06
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lbt"Screens flared vividly, radiating all the colors of the spectrum. Space itself seemed a rainbow gone mad, for there were being exerted there forces of a magnitude to stagger the imagination, forces to be yielded only by the atomic might from which they sprang, forces whose neutralization set up visible strains in the very fabric of the ether itself."13:07
yuntalike a tongue-twister, but for eyes13:08
* Bostik is not sure if that was attempt at poetry or a Bulwer-Lytton entry13:08
phaeronyunta: rpm triggers probably13:08
lbtBostik: very early sci-fi ...13:08
lbthttp://freeread.com.au/@RGLibrary/EEDocSmith/Lensmen/GalacticPatrol.html13:08
yuntaphaeron: how does that work? where to find them /  how to start debugging?13:09
Bostikoh wow, that's old13:09
phaeronyunta: check the grubby source13:09
yuntagrubby, got it13:09
phaeronprobably there13:09
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lbtBostik: yeah - but worth a read if you like your scifi ...13:10
lbtnote that's book 313:10
mordlbt: i'm going to be mostly helsinki-based for the rest of the year so just yell whenever you're visiting and i'll finally return your books13:11
mordunless mail is preferred13:11
lbtmord: nah, I'm in Hel next week and for Slush13:11
mordright13:12
lbtin fact I bought a laptop for Jussi13:12
lbtso he's coming to pick it up next week13:12
yuntawhen is this slush exactly?13:12
lbt21 I think13:12
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jussi21-22 Nov13:13
jussilbt: did I mention we will be at slush alspo13:13
jussialso13:13
lbtno, good13:13
lbtmord: http://freeread.com.au/@RGLibrary/EEDocSmith/Lensmen/@Lensmen.html13:14
lbtepub format :)13:14
mordooh13:14
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mordlbt: http://www.freesfonline.de/authors/Cordwainer_Smith.html13:15
Stskeepswe should have a Mer steak-out in helsinki at some point13:15
phaeronstake out13:15
lbtnop steak out13:15
phaeron:D13:15
lbtmord: :)13:15
phaeronwe could eat steak at the stake out13:16
lbtdonuts at stake out13:16
lbtmaybe if you poke the middle out of a ribeye ?13:16
Bostikdamn, must find a way to be there too13:21
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CosmoHillHi13:33
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sledgeshey CosmoHill , it looks like you were not blown by the wind13:39
CosmoHillnah13:39
sledgeswreak havoc out there... 8|13:39
CosmoHillthat wind guy doesn't like me very much13:39
CosmoHillwhat side of the pond do you think I am on?13:40
CosmoHillcos it's a nice day outside13:40
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* sledges remembers a chap with similar nick to CosmoHill logging in afternoon GMT and greeting us all from the other side of the pond :)13:43
CosmoHillI'm english :)13:43
CosmoHillin sunny england13:44
CosmoHilldrinking tea (no really, i am)13:44
Stskeepszenvoid: what's the latest kernel you have on smartq5?13:44
sledgesy'alrigh' m8 then aye? :D13:45
CosmoHillessex?13:45
sledgessouth west here13:46
CosmoHillengland?13:46
sledgesyes13:46
CosmoHillCIDER \O/13:46
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sledgesale :D13:49
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sledgeswhere u from?13:50
CosmoHillessex13:50
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sledges'this is essex' then :)13:51
CosmoHilli have a degree13:51
CosmoHilland I can spell my own name13:51
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sledgestruly exceptional! I was just citing the TV show if anything :)13:52
CosmoHillI don't watch ITV13:52
sledgeswe've got Swindown nearby, so..13:52
CosmoHillapart from ITV4 for the motorsport13:52
sledgesneither do i :)13:52
sledges*Swindon13:52
sledgesgetting offtopic (when wasn't it? :) )13:53
CosmoHillI've rarely on topic13:53
sledges:))13:54
CosmoHillcome to #lfs-support where topic is never enforced13:55
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CosmoHill(apart from when i lose my temper)13:55
kulveStskeeps: I tried to use conflicts+provides but now I just get "gst-plugins-bad conflicts with gst-plugins-bad-free"14:00
StskeepsProvides: gst-plugins-bad-free ?14:00
kulveyes, I have that14:02
Stskeepshmmmm14:02
Stskeepsobsoletes?14:02
Stskeepsinstead14:02
kulveI tried obsoletes + provides first as that was used somewhere and I just copied the logic, but didn't work either14:03
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kulveI guess a more proper solution would be to create -nonfree that could live alongside the -free but that would need extra half an hour..14:04
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kulvealthough -nonfree would look too scary ;)14:04
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kulveStskeeps: and, if I didn't mention, I get this error when trying to build an image with mic14:05
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henrik__lbt: should it be enought to install .service file to /usr/lib/systemd/user/ to get service started on vm sdk?14:47
lbtyou know I'm not sure how we should do that with packaged rpms14:49
lbthttps://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/blob/pkg-mer/sdk-setup.spec14:49
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lbtlines 68 + 11614:49
lbtbut iirc 'distro' services go into usr/lib as you said14:50
lbtnot etc/systemd/14:50
lbtetc/systemd is for sysadmin to override iirc14:50
lbtanyhow: copy that spec for now14:51
henrik__lbt: thanks. i'll try to get it workin14:53
yuntalbt: where do you display "nice text"?14:57
lbtexactly14:57
lbtnot sure you can in plymouth14:57
yuntaI'll ask mruk to draw half-wallpaper14:57
yuntaand write text on top of it14:58
lbtcan you have a minimal console?14:58
lbthalf gfx/halt text?14:58
yuntashould work fine, plymouth doesn't clean the screen when it exits14:58
lbtOK - not messed with it14:58
yuntahalf-nice-graphics half-black-bg, so text composes well14:58
yuntawallpaper will vanish if you vt-switch14:59
lbtnm14:59
yuntaso, where is the script that displays your text?14:59
lbtwould be good - we can do 'fade to black too'   oh, and info comes from here: https://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/blob/sb2_manage/src/sdk-info14:59
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yuntaok14:59
lbtnot sure what branch I'm on atm15:00
lbtyeah sb2_manage is latest WIP15:00
yuntaok15:01
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lbtyay15:07
lbtQtCreator builds with my C++ hacking :)15:07
lbtbuilds a Mer app on the VM I mean :)15:07
yuntanice15:07
lbtusing a 'proper' Mer target15:07
yuntacan we use that app for demo?15:07
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lbtnah, I want a nice nemo app to for the wiki docs15:10
lbtthis is a bit simple:  http://pastie.org/513795215:10
yuntahaha15:11
lbtI think auri may shoot me though15:11
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lbthttps://qt.gitorious.org/~lbt/qt-creator/lbts-qt-creator/commit/9ca0f57c7ae1d19e96f3316f69486bbed23d037115:14
Stskeepsi'm probably going to get shot for this15:14
Stskeepsbut what systemd really needs, is a lua scripting plugin15:14
Stskeeps:P15:14
lbtnope, I already thought that15:15
lbtmmm great... when auri said he wasn't around today he didn't mean not working - massive src conflict :/15:17
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kulveis there a way to ignore some files in the %files section? Even so that I could wildcard everything and still ignore a few15:26
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lbtkulve: not afair - but you can generate a file-list and use -f15:37
lbtyou can mix+match too15:37
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zenvoidStskeeps: still playing with it? :)15:40
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zenvoidStskeeps: i run the old kernel plus a few patches for 800mhz15:42
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Stskeepszenvoid: ok15:44
Stskeepszenvoid: was thinking to pass it on to somebody else, so15:44
* lbt wonders if QtC should make .yaml files15:44
Stskeepsnah, the qt ones are simple enough real15:45
Stskeepsly15:45
lbtthe advantage is that it can continue to modify them15:45
lbtwithout having to grok .spec files15:45
lbttbh I dismissed them and said "make a .spec"15:46
Stskeepsthem?15:46
Stskeeps:P15:46
lbtbut then the .spec has to be edited by hand in future15:46
lbtyaml/spectacle15:46
lbtnow I'm not so sure - I think most simple cases could just use simple yaml almost all the time - and QtC could easily handle that using key/value pairs15:47
CosmoHillhey lbt and Stskeeps15:47
lbto/15:47
CosmoHillhow are you two?15:47
lbtthat would still support quite complex spec files using specify15:48
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lbtso it provides ease of use; continued editability and doesn't block complex....15:48
Stskeepslbt: too tired to really say anything sane :P15:48
lbtyeah ... just musing and pretending someone is listening15:49
Stskeepsbut if we're adding spectacle to the mix, we might make things a bit too complex atm15:49
Stskeeps:P15:49
lbtit's in the SDK VM already15:49
lbtso no additional work afaict15:49
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zenvoidStskeeps: if all you need is a simple desktop to give some use to your old smartq, try this:15:55
zenvoidhttp://alone-in-the-light.zenvoid.org/2012/09/desktop-for-tablets-and-mobile-devices.html15:55
zenvoidrunning mer or something semi-modern (systemd) can be very difficult i'm afraid15:56
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Stskeepsyeah, needs modern kernel15:58
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Stskeepslbt: we're on schedule for release tomorrow, btw16:01
lbtzenvoid: nice ... btw - what voltage does the Q7 run?16:01
lbtStskeeps: good16:01
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yuntalbt: how to get my kernel & vbox modules into sdk?16:10
lbtdo you mean promoted or to build an image to test?16:10
yuntaI meant everything needed for inclusion in final sdk build. So probably both.16:11
yuntas/build/image/16:11
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lbtfirst test it as an image16:11
lbtgrab the .ks and modify it to have your repos16:11
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lbtused Mer IMG yet?16:12
yuntaused jolla img, same app I guess?16:12
yuntaif you mean web-accessible imager/builder16:12
lbtyes; we can use the Mer one so we can all share it16:13
lbtLDAP'ing16:13
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lbtmer username = yunta?16:16
yuntaks? (last time you gave me link to arm ks iirc)16:16
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yuntaI'm in (img.merproject..)16:16
lbtgood16:16
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lbt2-20121020-15401216:17
lbtlook at the ks for that one16:17
yuntaok16:18
zenvoidlbt: voltage of cpu?16:20
lbtpsu - I have one but no idea what psu it used :)16:20
zenvoidah :)16:20
* zenvoid looking16:20
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zenvoidlbt: 5v16:23
lbtty16:24
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sledgesOBS question: at our company we'd like to package a project offline (so when OBS dies, apocalypse strikes, or somebody gets hit by a bus, a project can still be rebuilt, even after years).16:29
sledgesIf we want to use Mer, how can we package everything locally? (storing source code only for sensitive parts is ok, the rest could do with a binary snapshot)16:30
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Stskeepssledges: well, mer uses MDS for that16:32
Stskeepsas to ensure it's hard to kill16:32
Stskeepsbut it's a bit awkward way of dealing with at times16:33
kulvefake obs?16:33
Stskeepsyeah16:33
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sledgeswe could store Mer's stable snapshop in a tarball, it's ok as long as we don't touch packages16:33
sledgesif we do touch packages (alter source), or introduce custom packages on top (hardware adaptation, UX), we'd like to be able to rebuild them offline16:34
sledgesbest if all could fit in a VM16:34
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sledgesso it's isolated, and can be baked on a DVD(s)16:34
kulveI have no idea about this, just seen mentioned it couple of times in the mailing list: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OBS_Light_Fakeobs16:34
Stskeepssledges: mer you can simply back up packages-git/16:35
Stskeepsmer's built for surviving beyond the project iself16:35
Stskeepsitself16:35
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sledgeswhere is packages-git ?16:37
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Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/packages-git/16:38
Stskeepsrsync-able16:38
Stskeepscontains the core itself, too16:38
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lbtkulve: that's now MDS : Mer Delivery System16:38
lbtOBS Light is kind of minimal OBS setup16:38
kulvelbt: ok16:39
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phaeronlbt: OBS light switched to using mds fakeobs btw16:45
lbtoddly they don't call it "Mer Delivery System" :)16:45
phaeronwe could look into it for mds216:47
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Stskeepsyeah, there might be some improvements16:47
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sledgesto compile packages I could first create them on OBS (web interface really simple)16:48
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sledgesand then at some point in project -- to offline them locally following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB216:49
sledgesis SB compatible with OBS packaging structure?16:49
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Stskeepswell, you'll learn to love obs at that point16:50
Stskeepsbut you can build packages offline in sb2 anyway16:50
* sledges *already did16:50
sledgeslinking against a repo in SB will be challenging at first16:51
sledgesi.e. the whole OBS2SB process will be interesting16:51
sledgesprobably should spend learning curve on SB now instead16:51
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Stskeepspq: are you somehow using fd passing for passing around the native handles?17:00
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* Stskeeps answers his own question17:08
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* lbt off for the night17:21
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Stskeepssroedal: qt4.8 doesn't grok wayland 0.85 does it?17:32
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capisceStskeeps: hmm, I guess not17:38
Stskeepsok17:38
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BostikIIRC even qt5 tip is wayland 0.99 right now17:57
vgradeevening all17:57
CosmoHillhey vgrade et Bostik17:58
Bostikevening there, cosmo17:58
Venemo_N9heya17:58
CosmoHillhey Venemo_N917:59
Venemo_N9:)17:59
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vgradesledges: demo went well guess18:03
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yuntadamn, adding mer 486 repo in obs (through web interface) adds i586 arch.....18:12
MerbotMer bug 486 in tzdata "outdated tzdata package." [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48618:12
Venemo_N9why would anyone want a 486?18:13
CosmoHillthe same reason people like S&M?18:13
Venemo_N9effort would be better spent on i686 and x86_6418:13
Venemo_N9CosmoHill, what's S&M?18:13
CosmoHillyou don't wanna know18:14
Venemo_N9:P18:14
StskeepsVenemo_N9: long story short, mer i586 is atom, i486 is generic x8618:14
Venemo_N9wat18:14
StskeepsVenemo_N9: just ignore the labels and keep on living a happy life18:15
Venemo_N9atom can run x86_64!18:15
Venemo_N9ok18:15
* Venemo_N9 ignores18:15
Venemo_N9but still.18:15
Venemo_N9my ideapad (with that old atom cpu) didn't have any trouble running my x86_64 F16 installation18:17
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Venemo_N9so18:19
Venemo_N9noone has been able to explain to me why we care about those dated architectures18:20
CosmoHilli don't think it actually targets i48618:20
CosmoHillit's just a way to distringish between atm and gerneric x8618:20
CosmoHillatom*18:20
Venemo_N9let's call it i686 then, like Fedora does18:20
CosmoHillhow dare you use logic18:21
Venemo_N9lol CosmoHill :)18:21
Venemo_N9indeed, how dare I18:21
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StskeepsVenemo_N9: we use 486 as it works almost everywhere, for SDK too :P18:25
Stskeepsbut yeah, fixing it would make sense.. just a lot of logisitics around it18:25
CosmoHillah i see18:26
Venemo_N9mhm.18:26
CosmoHillsome distros target i486 and not i686, this would cause the SDK to fail on i486 and i586 systems if it was to target i68618:27
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Venemo_N9yeah, Fedora uses 686 because it works almost everywhere. better excuse please?18:27
CosmoHilldebain used i48418:27
StskeepsVenemo_N9: so the real excuse is that somebody in moblin made a very stupid choice and was lazh18:28
Stskeepsy18:28
Stskeepsand we're stuck with it now18:28
Stskeeps:P18:28
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Venemo_N9okay Stskeeps :) excuse accepted :)18:30
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w00tStskeeps: and now you get to explain armv8el :P18:36
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CosmoHillhow much space is required to build chromium?18:57
Bostikseveral gigabytes, and I'm pretty lax with "several" as it can jump past 1018:57
CosmoHillwow18:58
CosmoHilla guy said it was 15GB and i was like "no way"18:58
Bostiklet's see how much the source checkout was, a moment..18:58
CosmoHillI'll stick with elinks18:58
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Bostiksorry.. du still chugging along19:02
CosmoHillno hurry19:02
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CosmoHillin a few hours time I will move from here, my desk, to there, my bed19:03
CosmoHilland a few hours after that I'll fall asleep19:03
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Bostikbut IIRC libwebkit.a was something like 1.4GB, so there's another 1.4GB spent in webkit/**/*.o when built19:04
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CosmoHillisn't it weird how a web browser is bigger than a compiler19:09
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pqStskeeps, on android for wayland? yes, did you find the protocol in my sources?19:11
Stskeepspq: yeah, i'm past the "ooh." moment by now19:11
Stskeepson how this all ties together19:11
Bostiktotal size for chromium source checkout: 5.2GB19:11
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pqStskeeps, ah cool. Yeah, I implemented sending the whole generic handle struct, whatever it would be.19:12
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* Stskeeps ponders idly if he killed cgit.collabora.com19:18
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BostikCosmoHill: instant replay19:22
Bostiktotal size for chromium source checkout: 5.2GB19:22
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vgrade5.2GB, of source! another webkit?19:26
Bostikbundled in, yes, but webkit is tiny (22MB) drop in there19:27
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Bostiksomething like v8 accounts for ~130MB...19:28
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vgradeoO, this can't be all handwritten source19:43
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CosmoHillvgrade: ?19:56
CosmoHillBostik: really, v8 is cool from what I've seen19:56
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Bostiksure it is, a veritable Speedy Gonzales19:58
Bostikit's just quite a mouthful too19:59
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CosmoHillVSG20:00
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yuntalbt_away: sdk-vm pkg, can't find it in Mer:Tools. any clue what happened with it?21:43
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vgrademaui packages for Pi, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Avgrade%3Amaui23:06
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