Monday, 2012-10-29

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sonachmorning all00:38
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lbtmorning sonach00:44
lbthow's things?00:45
sonachlbt: ah. Haven't gone to sleep ? :P00:45
lbtnot quite ... 5 more mins!00:46
sonachlbt: not bad... The things are difficult to state in a few words...00:47
lbtgood to see you're still tracking Mer though - I take it you've read all about Jolla ?00:48
sonachlbt: yes, definitely I will keep close attention to Mer and try to do what I can do for it.00:50
sonachand yes, I had a private talk with Stskeeps several days ago, and knew some outlines about Jolla, it is very promising,00:51
lbtgood, I'm glad we're keeping you up-to-date on things like that00:52
lbtbut ... yes.... almost 1am and time for bed00:53
lbtgood night o/00:53
sonachlbt: hehe, good night and have a good dream!00:53
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marcosx86Any one knows where can I buy a brand new Nokia N900?01:00
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ccssnetmarcosx86: ebay is the only place ive seen then in general. some sellers on that site are very profesional. good luck01:07
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Jay_BEEbeware, I just purchased a so-called 'new' N900 from a so-called professional seller, in the US, and it certainly does not appear to be new,  as I saw several non-default, non-factory-installed applications installed to it01:25
Jay_BEEI am sending it back tomorrow01:25
Jay_BEEhsc-digital is the seller01:26
ccssnetand so you dont trust the apps?01:26
ccssnetwhy not reflash a firmware yourself?01:26
Jay_BEEwhy would the apps be on there if it is 'new'?01:26
ccssnetprice seems fair enough01:26
ccssnetbut there is a catagory called new other01:27
Jay_BEEI am aware of that, but this was clearly marked 'new' and not 'new other'01:27
ccssnetahh good point then01:27
ccssneti dont like misrepresented items also01:27
ccssnetpersonally i sell on ebay in the used catagory01:27
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ccssnetocasionally in the for parts one01:27
ccssneti got one item thats in the like new catagory.01:28
Jay_BEEI also purchased the warranty just in case of this kind of tomfoolery01:28
ccssneton ebay, you dont need a warantee to proove a seller is misrepresenting and like to reverse the order01:28
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Jay_BEEtrue, but just in case something else happened, lets say 2 months down the road01:29
ccssneti might have to do that soon on something i bought01:29
ccssneti bought a motherboard that was listed as bad onboard video card, blue tint/lines. as is parts repair.01:29
ccssnetso i got it, no cpu bracket/mount plate. and video doesnt work period01:30
ccssnetyea not good01:30
marcosx86I found some chinese suppliers but I had trouble with the Aliexpress payment gateway, I need to wait to credit refund so I can try again =/01:30
ccssneti may just attempt to repair anyway. i might see the issues01:30
ccssneti havent used them yet01:31
Jay_BEEplus the ac adapter that came with it did not work at all and had a hard time fitting into the micro-usb slot :(01:31
ccssnetbut the prices they have are nice01:31
ccssneti found a few china sellers that have warehouses in NJ01:34
ccssneti buy from them on ebay01:34
ccssnetthey probably should be tax investigated by fbi01:34
GeneralAntillesFBI doesn't investigate taxes.01:36
ccssneto. irs then?01:38
ccssnetwhoever does that01:38
GeneralAntilles(evil bastards)01:38
marcosx86see you guys01:42
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situMorning all.05:56
Stskeepsmorn situ05:56
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situNokia disappears from top 5 phone makers.05:58
Stskeepsyeah.. well, it's a really hectic market05:59
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Stskeepsmorn vgrade, mikhas, plfiorini :)06:28
mikhasUDS about to kick off soon06:29
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Stskeepswill be interesting to hear reports06:31
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Stskeepshello MichaelWu07:20
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StskeepsMichaelWu: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time07:23
StskeepsMichaelWu: so what brings you here?07:23
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MichaelWuHi, I got the mer run with ks file mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks. Is there anybody can tell me what would the qmlviewer runs like? Thx07:25
StskeepsMichaelWu: as in, how it looks like, or how it gets executed?07:25
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MichaelWuWhether I run Xorg, or the uxlaunch, it only shows such like an image. when I run X application, e.g. xeyes, nothing shows.07:28
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StskeepsMichaelWu: is how it looks like right now on screen? like in the QEMU window07:29
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MichaelWuNo. It's not.07:31
Stskeepsokay - can you perhaps take a photo or describe what you see on the screen?07:31
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MichaelWu@Stskeeps, Thanks, I will try to get the screenshot.07:32
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Jake9xxStskeeps: has build system gone haywire? I get07:58
Jake9xx+ qmake -r CONFIG+=mer07:58
Jake9xx/usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:58
Jake9xxerror: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.ErP8V8 (%build)07:58
Jake9xxwith osc build07:58
Bostiklooks like a missing dependency07:59
StskeepsJake9xx: hmmmm07:59
StskeepsJake9xx: does it happen on obs too?07:59
Jake9xxStskeeps: in obs it builds, I'm cleaning my build root and retrying08:00
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StskeepsJake9xx: yeah, cleaning would be my guess too08:00
Jake9xxtime for coffee, estimated download for mer:fake:Core:armv7hl 20min08:01
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Jake9xxStskeeps: check, that was the problem. Funny I did not do armv7hl stuff recently..08:09
StskeepsJake9xx: probably some mismatch in the sb2 part of the target08:09
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lbtmorning all08:41
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Jake9xxmorning lbt08:46
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lbthey Jake9xx08:51
lbtyay ... 2 more MOBS servers arrives08:51
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sledgesgood morning08:55
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sledgesDoes Pandaboard Hardware Adaptation for Mer have graphics accelleration (EGL) done nicely? I will need to run Xorg (or better wayland) and a Qt App (ArCom-IVI) on it, no Nemo/Lipstick, so hope for acceptable performance08:58
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sledgeswhat do you fellows thinl09:00
Stskeepsi think the problem is that the adaptation is not really updated09:00
Stskeepsto latest bits yet09:00
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sledgesthen it might involve some manual job..09:01
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Jake9xxsledges: there is an issue with omap4's gles, hardfp drivers are not available09:06
Jake9xx..well, officially09:06
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Stskeepsthey're now, i think?09:07
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sledgesis Mer's Pandaboard HA hardfp ?09:07
Stskeepsno, armv7l09:08
sledgeshence it means it could do better.. true09:08
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Jake9xxStskeeps: are they? I thought imagination is still holding them back09:08
sledgesif I went with softfp +gles, would the config above still be clickable ?09:09
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Stskeepssledges: probably yes09:09
Jake9xxsledges: most likely yes, panda is powerful device on the cpu side09:10
sledgesI'd run it 800x48009:10
sledgesVGA (there's also HDMI option, but might be too slow, from my experiences with iMX53)09:11
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phaeronStskeeps: what is process to get new package included in mer09:30
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Stskeepsbug report + pester stskeeps until he gives in09:31
Stskeepsi'm going to do it now for something else, too, can you elaborate on what?09:31
phaeronStskeeps: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio09:31
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Stskeepsthat's a seperate package nowadays?09:32
Stskeeps  / source package09:32
Stskeepsgot the .spec anywhere?09:32
phaeronyes alsa-plugins has a lot of plugins , but I only need pulseaudio plugin09:32
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phaeronStskeeps: it is needed to have the default alsa device routed to pulseaudio09:33
Stskeepsno objections to adding09:34
phaeronalright will open the bug09:34
phaeronthe rest of the plugins are hardware specific or redundant with pulseaudio functionality09:34
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phaeron(downmix , upmix, speex , samplerate already done in pulseaudio , usb and others are hardware specific)09:35
phaeronanyway you can comment on the bug if there's something you don't like there09:35
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MerbotMer bug 627 in .Other "[New package] Please include alsa-plugins in Mer core" [Enhancement,New]09:42
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phaeronStskeeps: explanations in the bug too :)09:42
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* lbt gets back from vet10:14
lbtauri__: ping10:14
auri__lbt: pong10:14
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lbtauri__: hey ... so, I fixed a minor ssh issue over the w/end10:15
lbtand we discussed some flow with alessandro10:17
lbtso what I'd like to do is have a quick look at your qmake script and see if we can get that working10:17
lbtright now if I put it into the sb2 target it causes an infinite loop :)10:18
Stskeepsphaeron: feel free to submit to mer-core/alsa-plugins10:19
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phaeronStskeeps: how ?10:23
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Stskeepsphaeron: git init, git add tarball, spec, changes, etc, git commit -sm "Initial commit of packagename", git remote add gerrit ssh:// , git push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master10:24
Stskeepsgo have coffee10:24
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phaeronStskeeps: cool , it should be documented :)10:25
Stskeepsit is10:25
Stskeepsi just saved you the trouble10:25
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phaeronStskeeps: weird I only saw stuff about submitting changes10:25
phaeronok mind tricks10:25
phaeronStskeeps: thanks :)10:25
* lbt thinks the less people know how to do that the better10:25
auri__lbt: I am working on the targets right now..10:26
auri__hopefully will push something by eod10:26
lbtauri__: so what do you think about using the Mer target to auto-fill the Qt and gcc settings?10:26
lbt(and can I see the qmake wrapper as it is at the moment?)10:26
lbt(so I understand the hard-coded bits)10:27
auri__i would make use of the envirmonemnt variable to determine the target foir sb210:28
phaeronStskeeps: I also submitted the HCTOSYS fix to n9-n950 kernel if you missed it10:28
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auri__the qmake scriot I pasted does not take the environment variable yet10:28
Stskeepsphaeron: OK, i'll review it10:28
phaeronStskeeps: already accepted it :)10:28
lbtI was thinking of passing the $SYSROOT into the wrapper and parsing the real -query to prepend it10:29
Stskeepsphaeron: OK10:29
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Stskeepsphaeron: let's avoid acccepting our own changes if possible, but since sage isn't around it isn't so fast10:29
auri__sorry i did not get you10:29
phaeronStskeeps: tested on device10:29
phaeronStskeeps: sage used to accept his own requests if he's sure of it10:30
auri__do you mean to pass the -query to VM?10:30
Stskeepsyeah.. guess it's a sideffect of it10:30
Stskeepsanyhow, nevermind10:30
lbtauri__: hardcoding QT_INSTALL_HEADERS:$SYSROOT/usr/include/qt410:31
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lbtis probably a bad idea10:31
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Stskeepsnot really10:31
auri__well not a good idea if that is done everytime.. I was thinking of calling VM with qmake -query when a target is added via QtCreator and storing those values (instead of hardcoding them )10:31
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auri__but on subsequent calls the qmake will return the values fetched previously10:32
lbtauri__: any special reason not to run it each time?10:32
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auri__can you guarantee that the VM is runnig everytime that QtCreator is started?10:33
Stskeepsgood point10:33
auri__QtCreator queries qmake for these parameters and I dont see why anyoine would want to change these for a target10:33
lbtOK - so qmake -query is run by QtC every startup?10:34
aportalelbt: is the VM IP Address static?10:34
auri__the whole thing of having scratchbox is that the environment is *consistent*10:34
lbtaportale: yes10:34
aportalelbt: Yes, every startup calls qmake -query10:34
auri__The other thing is that if the VM is not running when a target is added then we fall back to default paramters and mark that version as dirty till we can query VM10:35
aportalelbt: The integrity of the targets/kits is checked every time, QtCreator starts.10:35
lbtOK - and we discussed the VM availability - it must be up to setup but may not be there at QtC normal launch10:35
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auri__lbt: btw who sets the SB2_TARGET variable?10:37
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lbtso we run -query and sed the ^Q*:/ to be Q*:$SYSROOT/ - which we then cache10:37
lbtauri__: QtC does at the moment10:37
aportalelbt, auri__ : I think we can add these Environment variables when creating the Mer build steps.10:37
lbtaportale: yes10:38
aportalelbt: These were again used by your qmake wrapper script, right?10:38
lbtI am happy to assume that the sysroot value provides SYSROOT and SB2_TARGET (last path element)10:39
lbtaportale: yes10:39
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aportaleWait a secon, did I just see a link to a mer gerrit?10:39
Stskeepsaportale: mer has a gerrit, yes10:39
lbtaportale: yes10:39
Stskeepsaportale: for mer core itself10:39
lbtnot as you know it :)10:39
lbtauri__: I would suggest you make the Mer sysroot data entry form look like the kit data entry form10:39
aportaleStskeeps: Cool! :)10:40
auri__more or less .. yes..10:40
lbtwe don't need more than a sysroot 'now' but I don't want to have to rewrite when we need a new param at the last minte :)10:40
auri__ok with version 1, I am assuming soime default directories10:40
auri__we can fix those as and when things change10:41
Stskeepsaportale: we decided it was best way to allow off-the-street contribution and public review, every change into mer has been passed through that since my original modifications from meego10:41
lbtauri__: I'll fix the qmake wrapper and caching10:41
lbt(Assuming that helps that point :) )10:41
auri__hmm ok.. so are you providing a new qmake as replacement to ?10:44
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lbtauri__: yes, I will hack on that with you10:44
aportalelbt: we need that asapĀ² :)10:45
lbtaportale: OK - and I'll cache in ./config/QtProject/merqmakecache/<targetname>/qmake.config   ?10:46
aportalelbt: if you think the cache needs to be in another directory than, so be it. Looks OK.10:47
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lbtwell, this means we don't need multiple qmake scripts10:47
lbtwhich means we don't need to worry about upgrading them all10:47
aportalelbt: We need them10:47
aportalelbt: We need 1 script per target10:48
lbtaportale: why?10:48
aportalelbt: Again, we cannot provide separate environment variables or parameters when calling qmake -query10:48
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aportalelbt: Be10:49
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aportalelbt: Can we do as suggested? And then try to get your version done? We are losing time :)10:50
lbtaportale: 1 script that reads config per target is the same as 1 script per target10:50
lbtif you can write a script with values then you can (more easily) write a config with values10:50
aportalelbt: If there is a way for that one script to know which target to return the values for, it is fine. Can you explain how?10:52
aportalelbt: nb - We cannot pass extra parameters or environment variables to the qake -config call.10:52
lbtso you're 'passing' them by putting them in the path the script lives in?10:53
lbtso the script looks at $0 and parses it for SB2_TARGET ?10:54
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aportalelbt: Either that, or evens impler: Have the full paths in the script and them being echoed. When cerating that script Qt Creator can do all that.10:54
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iekkutime for mer bug triage12:00
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lbt*sigh* .... linked-in asks me to endorse lcuk13:02
Stskeepsyeah, that happens on occasion13:02
* lbt plans a bacon butty for later in the week :)13:02
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yuntaphaeron: depmod is definitely needed, it must be failing in postinstall apparently....13:28
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yuntaphaeron: and explicit module loading is NOT needed, I was wrong. depmod is enough13:32
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rymekhi, i'm trying to make bt chip up and running on N9/N950 with 3.5 kernel.  Are you interested in such patches?13:47
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yuntafck vbox13:52
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yuntalbt: phaeron: sdk vm crashes with kernel 3.6.1, kernel null pointer dereference at sf_dentry_revalidate+0x7/0x30 [vboxsf]13:53
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phaeronyunta: vboxsf is a vbox module ?13:57
yuntayes, one of them13:57
yuntathe one responsible for shared folders13:58
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yuntasomething in my home dir crashes it13:58
yuntachecking now what13:58
phaeronyunta: check if fedora has patches for newer kernels14:00
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kulvehow to find which package in mer provides X11/Xatom.h?14:08
Stskeepsas a wild guess, pkgconfig(x11) ?14:09
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kulvethat wasn't really the right answer, but it was the right  package :)14:17
kulve(I'm trying to figure out how to get a working battery icon)14:18
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yuntaphaeron: can't see any relevant patch14:23
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deztructorkulve: for source of information about battery atm the most universal way is to use contextkit property. see nemo-control-panel-applets (there is a power applet)14:28
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* lbt turns of phost414:30
Stskeepsreplacing it with another one i presume?14:31
lbtall on phost11 already14:31
kulvedeztructor: does that need some battery specific glue package or is there already a genric packge assuming some standard battery driver?14:31
lbtbringing up 2 new ones - annoyingly one is in a different datacenter14:32
yuntaphaeron: you've got some 3.6 specific patch in your repo, where did you get it from?14:35
phaeronyunta: comes from lbt's package14:36
yuntalbt: where did you take your vbox guest pkg from?14:37
yuntapatches to be exact14:38
deztructorkulve: in nemo there is a upower for systems using power_supply (most linux-based systems) and corresponding contextkit plugin and for n9(50) there is a power-bme contextkit plugin providing same props14:39
kulvedeztructor: I started to modify contextkit-plugins-n950 but I guess there's a bettre package for me then14:40
kulveI assume my systems uses power_supply14:40
deztructorkulve: u do not need to modify it. it is only for n9(50) with bme responsible for charging14:41
deztructorkulve: by default contextkit-plugin-upower is providing the same props on systems with proper power_supply14:42
deztructorkulve: it already exists and provides required info14:42
kulveok. I have something else broken then, will check more carefully when I'm off the bus. Thanks for the pointers14:43
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yuntaphaeron: vbox trunk has 3.6 specific changes in the crashing function14:59
phaeronyunta: have fun :D15:00
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yuntaphaeron: what do you recommend, rebase package to trunk, or apply patches to this single module only?15:00
phaeronyunta: I say rebase , but feel free to sanity check :)15:01
yuntaI'm scared shitless, there's thousand of files in your repo for that package15:02
yuntalike patches and other strange crap15:02
phaeronhey it's not my package :D it's lbt's I just fixed it to build for 3.615:03
yuntalbt: do we need all that crap there?15:03
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lbtyunta: so ... link to the scary package?15:18
yuntadid you collect all of those?15:19
yuntalbt: vbox 4.2.4 has some linux 3.6 specific changes that may make it actually work15:27
yunta"it" - shared folders15:27
sledgesis Qt5 in Mer's plans? ETA?15:27
Stskeepssledges: qt5 beta is in there just fine15:27
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Stskeepsqt5 cinematic experience on top of libhybris on top of android gpu drivers15:28
sledgesinto the face of my boss :) which HW again?15:28
Stskeepshp touchpad, qualcomm hw15:29
lbtyunta: FYI - most of that package/patches is from suse - all I did was hack the %build/%install/%files section to make a simple modules/tools-only build15:30
phaeronyunta: as 3.6 is very recent just try the upstream git and see if it is better15:31
lbtnow I understand wtf is going on it may be better to pull in the module stuff from a recent tarball/git15:31
lbtI would like to build VBoxManage for Mer too so we can manipulate the vdi files15:32
lbtthat may require a full vbox build which would be too hard15:32
yuntaso, ugly module code pull for now, and rebase later?15:34
phaeronyunta: git checkout in sdk , build , make install , if it works -> clean up15:35
cat_x301hi; is there any mer repo with gtk libs? (please just don't kick.. ;)15:35
phaeroncat_x301: check the Cordia projects on  community obs15:36
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Stskeepscat_x301: don't worry, we just don't carry them in mer but gtk integrates nicely anyway15:36
Stskeepsyou could be using EFL for all we care ;)15:36
cat_x301phaeron: ok, thanks, will try to figure out..15:37
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sledgeschaps, any links to hardfp Pandaboard EGL binaries?15:39
Stskeepslook after linaro's15:39
sledgesta Stskeeps , looks like hardfp port has also succeeded:
cat_x301Stskeeps: yeah, i will see it soon myself, git gtk is cloned and is waiting to get baked :)15:40
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Stskeepssledges: it's all up to compositor inputs and it really doesn't care if it's evdev :)15:48
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sledgesah, wrong channel Stskeeps15:49
Stskeepsnot wrong channel, just saving you from embarassement ;)15:49
sledgeswell, not knowing is not embarassement15:49
sledgesbut not knowing does not befree you from the liability :D15:49
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lbtphaeron: I'm getting "bad build configuration" for 12.2 on cob17:17
lbthave you seen this?17:18
lbt shows Repotype:None for %_project == openSUSE:12.2 which is odd17:18
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lbtI want/need this for the MOBS puppetised OBS workers which (oddly) like to install the right OBS for their OS :)17:19
lbt FYI17:20
lbtor  less /srv/obs/log/scheduler_x86_64.log17:20
phaeronlbt: I a have a feeling that prjconf needs new obs17:20
lbtyeah that crossed my mind too17:21
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Stskeepsbuild it on
lbtcould do17:21
phaeronStskeeps: you have no idea how painful it is to work on that obs17:21
Stskeepsphaeron: i know how painful it is17:22
Stskeepswe've done it in the past with old mer :)17:22
lbtphaeron: he likes hurting me17:22
Stskeepsthat too17:22
Stskeepsphaeron: btw, i noticed that b1-systems has continued their crossbuild work so i may follow in their footsteps and finally get sb2 upstream-able17:22
phaeroncool our delta from upstream obs is bad :(17:23
phaeronlbt: try modifying the prjconf17:24
lbtam doing that now17:24
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lbtlooking at 12.117:24
phaeronlbt: the scheduler log could have hints17:24
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lbtdidn't see any17:25
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phaeronor source server17:26
phaeronor reposerver :D17:26
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lbtnothing provides rpmlint-Factory17:33
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lbtOK - needed to rescan the project to get more out of it - building now17:37
lbtphaeron: apache and rubygem-magick FTB17:40
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lbtgrumble - patching apache2 for suse12.2 for pcre lib changes over <12.118:39
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lbtgood - builds18:44
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phaeronlbt: we should drop 11.4 support soon18:46
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lbtphaeron: yep19:03
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yuntaphaeron: lbt: 3.6.1 kernel & 4.2.4 vbox modules <- combo that seems to be working just fine19:23
phaeronyunta: cool, nice work :)19:23
lbtgood - what version on vbox itself are you running?19:24
lbtubuntu is 4.1.18 or 13 iirc19:24
lbtbut I think the protocol is the same19:24
yunta4.2.0 fedora something19:24
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yuntasomebody can check ubuntu when I finish packaging this19:25
ali1234ubuntu12.04 is 4.1.1219:26
ali1234and ubuntu 12.10 is broken19:26
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BaTmAn^Good evening20:32
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BaTmAn^How is mer on a pi?20:35
BaTmAn^Thinking of tackling it tomorrow20:35
CosmoHillit boots20:35
Jake9xxlbt: did we have a flow to submit new version of a package w/o gerrit?20:35
CosmoHillyou need to change into init3 to stop x from trying to spawn20:35
lbtJake9xx: to Mer Core?20:36
lbtor Tools?20:36
BaTmAn^ah ok20:36
lbtoh, yes - see #nemomobile20:36
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Jake9xxlbt: ah, of course . sr.20:47
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yuntalbt: phaeron: virtualbox package updated to vbox 4.2.4. Only guest modules! for main vbox we'll have to update kbuild too.
phaeronyunta: I think we only need guest addition22:13
yuntaat least for now...22:13
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yuntaphaeron: I'm adding one more think to kernel now, and then I'll ask you how to get all of that to our sdk vm image.22:14
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lbtthanks yunta - this'll help out a lot22:14
phaeronyunta: so does it actually work better with the recent kernel and modules ?22:15
yuntaphaeron: not a single crash or kernel complains22:15
lbtVBoxManage setextradata MerSDK VBoxInternal2/SharedFoldersEnableSymlinksCreate/home 122:16
lbtHEAD of qtcreator is segfaulting atm :/22:16
yuntaI used that command, but didn't try creating links yet22:17
yuntaI suppose some build process should have done in...22:17
phaeronyunta: try some fs stress test :D22:17
yuntalike kernel build? :)22:17
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phaeronthat should do it22:19
lbtmmap isn't likely to work22:19
phaeronif the mount appears as a network mount , then the kernel is likely to be smart enough to not do it (I hope)22:20
lbtit's not a network mount22:20
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lbtbut yeah, go for it22:20
phaeronthough I thought that was the logical choice :D22:20
phaeronanyway if things that used to break don't do so anymore then that's an improvement already22:21
lbtcheck the symlinks still work too22:22
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yuntauh, 2 mild warnings already22:23
yuntafrom btrfs !22:23
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yuntalbt: no, it doesn't work with symlinks enabled22:38
yuntaffs, entire day wasted22:38
lbt"doesn't work" ?22:39
yuntatotal disaster22:39
yuntaenabling it causes mount to fail22:39
yuntaverifying now....22:39
lbtOK, that is suboptimal22:40
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phaeronyunta: what if you enable it after mounting22:41
phaeron <-- seems unsolved22:41
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lbtVBoxManage setextradata MerSDK VBoxInternal2/SharedFoldersEnableSymlinksCreate/home 1  ??22:44
yuntajust forget it for now22:44
yuntaI'll wake up tomorrow22:45
yuntaand redo it22:45
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lbtyunta: I wasted most of my data installing 12.2 to 2 new workers and then failing to anything useful on them22:45
lbta 1hr job took 5+22:45
yuntaI think I fcked sometihng up in the process...22:46
lbtalso Oracle suck22:46
yuntaI know, shit happens22:46
lbtreally, really suck22:46
yuntaoh yes, it does22:46
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yuntalike: it fails completely silently if it's log grows to 2G22:46
yuntaI mean db22:47
lbtit works on 3.022:47
lbtwe have many kernels to try in between :)22:48
yuntaworks till it crashes :(22:48
yuntafor me it crashed several times on 3.022:48
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lbtcrash or slowpath warning ?22:48
yunta100% sure once, I think ~3 times22:49
lbtNote: You can use shared folders to share any type of file. However, Windows shortcuts and Linux symbolic links do not work correctly if you try to use them via shared folders.22:49
* lbt looks at samba on Mer22:51
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lbtyeah, it is a bit22:54
yuntalbt: leave it for now. maybe I just fcked up test. now after disabling symlinks they still don't mount22:54
lbtgo to bed and come back freah22:55
lbtfresh :D22:55
yuntaI'm tempted to do more, but it may be pure waste of time22:55
yuntaand thanks for support :)22:55
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