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| kulve | what does this mean: "Your file uses __DATE and __TIME__ this causes the package to rebuild when not needed" ? | 05:06 |
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| kulve | ah, it means exactly that. The source uses those macros and therefore the binary differs on every build. And since it differs OBS may rebuild it (which is something I don't still understand why) | 05:19 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: rebuild everything depenending on it | 05:39 |
| kulve | Ok. I remembered there was something about OBS compiling something several times to see if the binary changes between the builds.. But maybe I misunderstood somethin | 05:43 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 05:54 |
| kulve | any idea from where I'm supposed to get fw_bcmdhd.bin? | 05:54 |
| Bostik | kulve: one such file is available from jellybean vendor binaries | 05:56 |
| Bostik | hmm.. it's even in out/** hierarchy so it might actually be something that gets built | 05:57 |
| kulve | I guess everything is in there, even if it's just copied from the git-repo | 05:58 |
| Bostik | ah, there it is, it's in the tree as broadcom firmware but gets renamed when copied to out/ | 06:00 |
| kulve | do you have url? | 06:01 |
| Bostik | http://pastie.org/5122269 | 06:01 |
| Bostik | that's the "makefile" | 06:01 |
| Bostik | so any jellybean tree should sport it | 06:02 |
| kulve | and again proprietary license :/ | 06:06 |
| kulve | it might allow redistribution but who understands all those details.. | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: yeah, it rebuilds the stuff that depends on it, not itself | 06:09 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: ok | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok, it's snowing outside | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | sleeth | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:10 |
| Bostik | hmh, reading the bcm4x** license through... it's not that bd | 06:10 |
| kulve | -8°C here | 06:10 |
| Bostik | "feel free to redistribute, but make sure to keep the license information attached and do not even think of claiming ownership" | 06:10 |
| kulve | and then the next question, where do I get nvram_4330.txt (it is expected to be found in the same directory as the fw binary)? | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | what device are you trying to port to? nexus 7? | 06:15 |
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| Bostik | sorry, tried to look for the file but can't find it | 06:16 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: my nexus 7 has other users as well, so can't destroy the android there :) | 06:16 |
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| kulve | but something similar | 06:17 |
| Bostik | kulve: if it's a nexus device, https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers might be handy | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:19 |
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| kulve | Bostik: there's only one binary in there and that's for bcm GPS. Maybe the wireless part is a bit more open and can be distributed in some more normal ways.. | 06:23 |
| Bostik | good point | 06:24 |
| kulve | looks like there is one binary after all: bcm4330.hcd. And that's found in my nexus 7's /system/etc/firmware directory. | 06:33 |
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| rcg | morning | 06:46 |
| kulve | the other fw_*bin binaries are in /system/vendor/firmware in my nexus. Now, where's the nvram_4330.txt or how should I create it.. | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | morn rcg | 06:51 |
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| kulve | hmm.. there's nvram.txt in /system/etc | 06:53 |
| kulve | well, I guess those don't match exactly. Even thought it loaded the firmware, it gives errors while trying to do anything | 07:01 |
| kulve | but the nemo UI is up with working compositing and decent perf | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 07:03 |
| kulve | some rendering garbage in the top (status bar?) when e.g. in the wlan-settings but otherwise looks ok | 07:03 |
| kulve | the default nemo yamls should include some perf tools, glmark2-es2 or something :) | 07:04 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: sec | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | armv7l or armv7hl? | 07:05 |
| kulve | hl | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | add http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer:/QA:/Tests/Mer_Core_armv7hl/ | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | install blts-opengles2-tests | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's a very nice test set | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | i've seen gfx stacks really choke on it | 07:07 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably just run the binary itself without testrunner | 07:07 |
| kulve | well, I guess that's not too hard :) | 07:07 |
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| Bostik | armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Memory exhausted | 07:10 |
| Bostik | not surprised | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: you need to force ld.gold there i think | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 should support it fine | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | but i doubt we have cross compiler with gold yet | 07:13 |
| Bostik | yep, figured out so much | 07:13 |
| Bostik | this still qualifies as progress | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | i can't promise it for mer next release but next one again for sure | 07:14 |
| Bostik | I'm pretty sure we're already hitting oddities which upstream simply thinks are invalid :) | 07:15 |
| rcg | is there already some work on handwriting recognition? | 07:20 |
| rcg | wondering if trying to compile lipitk.sourceforge.net for mer makes sense | 07:21 |
| Cosmo|zzz | Morning | 07:22 |
| Cosmo|zzz | Dammit it's 8:22, why do I never lie in on the weekend | 07:22 |
| Cosmo|zzz | hey Stskeeps and Bostik | 07:23 |
| Bostik | morning there | 07:23 |
| Cosmo|zzz | i see you two oppose lie-ins too | 07:23 |
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| Bostik | no, I don't oppose them; in fact, I try to enjoy them whenever possible | 07:23 |
| Bostik | but not today, and can't really understand why | 07:24 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: should the tests 5,6,7 (OpenGL-Blit with blend and widgets with shadows / etc) show something on the screen? | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but i've only seen it working on n90 | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | n9 | 07:40 |
| kulve | ok, e.g. tests 10 and 11 actually show something | 07:40 |
| kulve | test 12 got a bit slow already, 22fps | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, there's one of them that's really tough | 07:42 |
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| rcg | do we have gcc-fortran somewhere? or liblapack? | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | no, and not getting readded | 08:51 |
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| rcg | i see | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | it added 50m compile time to a arm gcc | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | if it can be compiled seperately it'd be fine | 08:57 |
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| rcg | alright, i just was quickly looking into if opencv could be build for mer and it seems it depends on liblapack, which in turn depends on gcc-fortran | 08:58 |
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| rcg | there's a version of opencv on build.meego.com but that depends on gtk+ | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:59 |
| rcg | hmm.. while looking into the debian packaging one comment says they removed the dependency on lapack.. however, it still shows up as dependency in the control file | 09:01 |
| rcg | well, maybe i can dig into that one later today | 09:01 |
| * ljp is trying windows 8 | 09:03 | |
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| Stskeeps | how is it? | 09:12 |
| ljp | confusing | 09:12 |
| ljp | everything is full screen | 09:12 |
| ljp | file find dialog. full screen | 09:12 |
| ljp | great for phones. tablets maybe. desktops not even | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't sound good for desktop.. | 09:13 |
| ljp | you can live mostly on the traditional desktop screen | 09:13 |
| ljp | I like that its different. but gimby different | 09:13 |
| ljp | gumby | 09:14 |
| ljp | at least this one came with powershell. but why couldnt MS create a command terminal app that can resize like its 1995 | 09:15 |
| iekku | wife has been using my exopc with win8 half an year now, not so much complainings | 09:17 |
| iekku | compared to minilaptop with ubuntu 12.something, no complainings at all | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | for tablet and phone it's probably good | 09:18 |
| * Stskeeps ponders what to work on today | 09:18 | |
| iekku | Stskeeps, take a rest, have family time | 09:19 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, if you need to think what to do you can do something totally different while thinking | 09:19 |
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| ljp | good thing I didnt pay for this. | 09:22 |
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| rcg | meh, once you are used to how quickly mer builds work, waiting for harmattan builds is so annoying | 09:47 |
| lbt | morning all | 09:48 |
| lbt | rcg to be fair they don't (AFAIK) cross-compile; they need someone to work on building the toolchain for SB2 | 09:48 |
| rcg | morning lbt | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | or not even that | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: prerelease please | 09:49 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK | 09:49 |
| rcg | lbt, while i got you here: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=armv7el&package=opencv&project=home%3Awonko%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Awonko&repository=Harmattan | 09:49 |
| lbt | nb: doing work is likely to be a real benefit to Mer too *if* we end up co-existing | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: they could really just take our old work in old mer | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | and that'd be a massive speedup already there | 09:50 |
| rcg | any clue what's causing this? seems like all pubworker except pubworker_8 suffer from this issue | 09:50 |
| rcg | but well.. it's not really important i think.. so please don't waste too much time looking this ;) | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i added a crash fix for qml soundeffects | 09:51 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - anything else pending? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | no, i think we're good | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | just want a quick prerelease to verify that it stays sane | 09:51 |
| lbt | started | 09:52 |
| rcg | err.. damn.. there is a new build going.. just a sec | 09:52 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if his old core-toolchain split work still makes sense | 09:52 | |
| rcg | http://pastebin.com/FmDL0Yf3 | 09:53 |
| rcg | that's the log.. just for reference | 09:53 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: how small can we go for a micro-distro which is just a toolchain | 09:53 |
| lbt | rcg: "virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory" | 09:54 |
| lbt | sounds familiar at the moment :) | 09:54 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: well, i think the point of micro should be on core side instead, not toolchain | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, "how small can we go" is interesting | 09:56 |
| rcg | lbt, ah, so you encountered that before.. the really interesting thing is that, last time encountered this, all pubworkers failed that way except pubworker_8 | 09:57 |
| lbt | rcg: and is that just a compile of matmul.cpp ? | 09:57 |
| lbt | can't see if you're running -j | 09:57 |
| rcg | think so | 09:58 |
| lbt | we've been seeing linker errors with webkit - but this is different I think | 09:58 |
| rcg | dunno about -j though | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | might simply be harmattan's lousy toolchain | 09:58 |
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| rcg | well, i don't want to make a big fuzz out of this.. it's just a pretty interesting phenomenon (for now) | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | intruiging | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | the b1 guys are still committing to the crossbuild stuff | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | i thought this work stopped totally | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | that's a pleasant surprise :) | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | maybe there's a shot at sb2 going mainline after all | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: also, did you ever send mail for the previous prerelease? | 10:09 |
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| lbt | err, no :/ | 10:11 |
| lbt | it's in Drafts | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:12 |
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| lbt | sent with note | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | k | 10:14 |
| lbt | I shut my email down when I ran out of memory and didn't finish the steps | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:15 |
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| kulve | is there a way to configure videosink for playbin2 somehow globally? There seems to be multiple choices and all comes from the same library and it picks a wrong one.. | 10:42 |
| kulve | assuming that I can't recompile the sinks | 10:42 |
| kulve | zuh: ^ | 10:46 |
| kulve | and how do I control volume in nemo? | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | start with amixer perhaps | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | -c 0 | 10:50 |
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| kulve | no amixer in there by default. And missing something is really annoying without a network :) | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | you don't have ethernet or usb networking? | 10:51 |
| kulve | usb.. hmm.. | 10:51 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: you such a wise man! Thanks :) | 10:52 |
| kulve | I got a usb ethernet dongle a while back and didn't even remember it | 10:53 |
| kulve | it worked out of the box | 10:53 |
| kulve | s,you,you are, | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | i was going to suggest NAT over g_ether or ssh forwarding and /etc/hosts, but ;) | 10:55 |
| kulve | I think I actually have the setup for dhcpd/nat already on my computer for similar cases, but the current kernel doesn't have g_ether support and it would be inconvenient anyway | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | we've considered to put dnsmasq in mer sdk, it has a lot of nice features | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, nice looking | 10:58 |
| kulve | yeah, very. | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | only at 250? not bad | 10:59 |
| kulve | +250 for the display | 10:59 |
| kulve | # amixer -c 0| wc -l | 10:59 |
| kulve | 359 | 10:59 |
| kulve | no sound, although everything looks corrent with alsamixer | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | ah, 250 for the display.. | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | well | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | still not bad | 11:01 |
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| iekku | haha, speaking about wife and win8 -> turned out he has stopped using exopc month ago since win8 sucks that much | 11:12 |
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| zuh | kulve: AFAICT, playbin uses what you give it or autovideosink if not. And autovideosink uses the ranks to choose between sinks and apparently ignores ones with too low (zero) rank. So no. | 12:16 |
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| kulve | zuh: ok | 12:43 |
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| Stskeeps | hello n0x | 13:12 |
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| vgrade | morning | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 13:20 |
| vgrade | kulve: you working nexus 7 | 13:21 |
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| zz_bottom | vgrade: me working Nexus 7 | 14:18 |
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| vgrade | lbt: it does not look like I can use submoduels with OBS as git archive does not do submodules so I'll just import them one by one | 14:24 |
| lbt | mm | 14:24 |
| lbt | I think we can workround that | 14:24 |
| vgrade | lbt as separate git repos | 14:24 |
| lbt | yes | 14:25 |
| lbt | don't worry about it for now | 14:25 |
| vgrade | I also don't think the code is structured to allow a one package approach | 14:25 |
| lbt | ie we'll just say gitpkg doesn't yet support submodules | 14:25 |
| vgrade | lbt, ie it expects to do a cmake, make, make install on each submodule before it can make the next | 14:26 |
| lbt | oh | 14:26 |
| lbt | that's just a bit naff then :) | 14:26 |
| lbt | submodules are usually used when they're needed to do a global make | 14:26 |
| lbt | but where the submodule can also be standalone | 14:27 |
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| vgrade | lbt, although that could be worked around with sub packages I guess | 14:28 |
| lbt | yes | 14:28 |
| lbt | or even as a set of discrete things in make | 14:29 |
| lbt | %build I mean | 14:29 |
| vgrade | I think I will package the individual repos | 14:29 |
| vgrade | lbt, but use git-pkg | 14:30 |
| vgrade | on each one | 14:30 |
| lbt | OK - feedback welcome | 14:30 |
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| kulve | vgrade: I'm using a reference board but I really would like to know how much nexus 7 differs. I was wondering, if there could be a subproject with only nexus 7 boot/kernel and the user-space could be the same | 14:44 |
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| vgrade | kulve: ok, | 15:10 |
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| vgrade | zz_bottom: how you getting on? | 15:10 |
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| kulve | I currently have working 3d, headers for devel packages from khronos, working gst/omx video decoding @ full hd. There's XV image sink as well, but for now I don't know how to get that working with nemo (or if it even supports what's needed) | 15:13 |
| kulve | and the video playback needs some firmware binaries and I'm not sure if the license allows redistribution | 15:13 |
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| vgrade | kulve: sounds very encouraging | 15:29 |
| kulve | vgrade: yeah, especially since the "working 3d" means X.Org integrated compositing window manager | 15:32 |
| vgrade | kulve: indeed, not many of those around. n9/900/950, tegra2 | 15:34 |
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| kulve | and now I got the sound out. Adele & Skyfall | 15:35 |
| vgrade | kulve: panda also | 15:35 |
| RaYmAn | kulve: there was some talk wrt the codec libs for tegra - supposedly they changed the license to allow for inclusion into e.g. ubuntu. But sadly, I don't have an exact source. | 15:38 |
| RaYmAn | Hm, I guess they only made it as far as upload queue so far: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue | 15:39 |
| kulve | hopefully nvidia will add the Linux exception to the codecs as well. It's already there for the proprietary libs | 15:39 |
| RaYmAn | also, most stuff should transfer over fine to e.g. n7 or asus transformer prime. Some kernel differences, but probably nothing major. | 15:40 |
| RaYmAn | The issue is generally having a kernel for the device with the right version of the graphics interface to be compatible with the binary graphics drivers | 15:41 |
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| kulve | are there other video players than "gallery" for nemo..? With that I get just "Error while loading page: qrc:/qml/VideoPlayer.qml:34 module "QtMultimediaKit" is not installed" | 16:01 |
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| special | kulve: zypper in libdeclarative-multimedia | 16:04 |
| special | kulve: will add the missing dependency | 16:04 |
| special | kulve: also, #nemomobile :) | 16:05 |
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| kulve | special: thx | 16:08 |
| kulve | well, I'll join there for a couple of next questions.. | 16:08 |
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| * CosmoHill doesn't understand car insurance | 17:22 | |
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| CosmoHill | there's a £100 difference between a "Web designer" and "computer programmer" | 17:38 |
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| lbt | CosmoHill: try "radical protestor for hire" | 17:53 |
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| Aard | CosmoHill: which ones cheaper? | 18:01 |
| * Aard would bill computer programmers more, as they might hack the device electronics and cause crashes | 18:01 | |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 18:54 |
| CosmoHill | Aard: computer programmer | 18:54 |
| CosmoHill | btw, Scooby imprezza WRX 2.0L 225BHP is £4100 to insure and a Scooby Legacy R Spec B 3.0L 260BHP is £600 ~ £950 | 18:57 |
| CosmoHill | Aard: not seen / spoken to you in a while | 19:01 |
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| Aard | been a bit busy lately :) | 19:04 |
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| kulve | hmm.. I branched a package that depends on libEGL.so and that's provided now both on my repo and in mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL. I wonder how that should be handled correctly | 19:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Prefer: | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | in prjconf | 19:41 |
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| Stskeeps | mostly it's for mesa as prefer | 19:41 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 22:39 |
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