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| lbt | phaeron: pong in the morning :) | 00:45 |
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| lbt | Jake9xx: too | 00:46 |
| phaeron | lbt: it's ok , I was just annoyed someone suddenly rebooted a couple of machines | 00:46 |
| lbt | err - yeah - so I see | 00:46 |
| lbt | thought it was tomorrow | 00:46 |
| phaeron | yeah I kept double checking the email | 00:47 |
| phaeron | but I guess someone got impatient | 00:47 |
| lbt | hmm | 00:48 |
| lbt | well, bedtime - zathras is up | 00:48 |
| phaeron | yes | 00:48 |
| phaeron | g'night | 00:48 |
| lbt | cobs looks like it may need tlc | 00:49 |
| lbt | mmm no... the post-release rebuild looks fine | 00:49 |
| lbt | 'night | 00:49 |
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| CosmoHill | morning iekku | 09:25 |
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| lbt | morning all | 10:27 |
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| vgrade | morn lbt | 10:36 |
| lbt | hey vgrade - long time, no chat :) | 10:37 |
| niqt | morn | 10:37 |
| vgrade | on a 4 week sprint at the day job (more of a marathon really) | 10:37 |
| lbt | ah :) | 10:37 |
| vgrade | just finished | 10:37 |
| lbt | he niqt | 10:37 |
| lbt | vgrade: my gertboard arrived this morning | 10:37 |
| vgrade | oh, electronics project? | 10:38 |
| lbt | hopefully | 10:38 |
| lbt | garden lighting | 10:38 |
| vgrade | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5715485/rasp-pi/pi-qt5-plugin.img.gz | 10:38 |
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| lbt | what's that? | 10:39 |
| lbt | I've been neglecting Pi for a bit | 10:40 |
| vgrade | image for Pi | 10:40 |
| vgrade | with Qt5 platform plugin | 10:40 |
| lbt | dl'ing | 10:40 |
| vgrade | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#Qt5_Platform_Plugin | 10:40 |
| lbt | look out for QtCreator/SDK too | 10:41 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 10:41 |
| lbt | don't get it yet - still broken | 10:42 |
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| vgrade | lbt: I did try an older version, just looped on boot in systemd | 10:43 |
| lbt | yep - I built the image with a development addition | 10:43 |
| vgrade | lbt, nice match QtCreator/SDK and Pi | 10:43 |
| lbt | vgrade: yep - certainly good proto stuff | 10:44 |
| vgrade | lbt, will we be able to deploy from QtCreator to Pi | 10:44 |
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| lbt | vgrade: yes | 10:44 |
| lbt | the only issue atm is that QtC is 4.8 | 10:45 |
| vgrade | lbt, I think I've seen something in the QtCreator menus of how to setup ssh | 10:45 |
| lbt | don't know how it handles Qt5 | 10:45 |
| vgrade | ah ok | 10:45 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: ping | 10:46 |
| lbt | vgrade: we'll find out! | 10:46 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: hey | 10:46 |
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| lbt | Jake9xx: read page, wait a minute | 10:46 |
| lbt | just need to push some buttons | 10:46 |
| lbt | actually image takes ~10m to build | 10:46 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: ok, I'll go make some coffee | 10:46 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: but I'l like the wiki to be a)up to date b)have the quick-guide and the in-detail one, let's see what I come up when doing the sdk stuff | 10:47 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: this is SDK install? | 10:48 |
| Jake9xx | I'l->I'd | 10:48 |
| lbt | what's the scope of your review | 10:48 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: install from scratch i.e. new developer getting started | 10:48 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: like "I've read about the #merproject in twitter, how can I dive into it?" | 10:48 |
| lbt | OK | 10:49 |
| lbt | so the SDK/QtC is very much for Nemo App development on top of Mer | 10:49 |
| vgrade | lbt "As an example we currently have Qt Creator compiling and running against Qt 4.x and Qt 5 using the same code base." | 10:49 |
| lbt | Nemo-like | 10:49 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: pretty much yes | 10:49 |
| lbt | vgrade: good - that should work in this setup | 10:49 |
| Jake9xx | vgrade: can you deploy from QtC as well? | 10:50 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: OK - you *could* use it for full on platform SDK too | 10:50 |
| lbt | and.... cobs is playing up... | 10:51 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: right you are, sir. But IMHO we're lacking the getting started quick guides. Our people mostly will and can figure out the needed steps and try out various combinations if they want but if we plan to take on android developer ecosystem we're a long way from that | 10:51 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: yep ... good. Just verifying we're on the same page. We are. | 10:52 |
| vgrade | lbt, Jake9xx http://qt-project.org/wiki/Create details deplying to Pi from QtC | 10:52 |
| Jake9xx | vgrade: sysroot mentioned | 10:53 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: we'll be using git HEAD QtC | 10:53 |
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| lbt | is cobs webui working for anyone? | 10:55 |
| vgrade | lbt, ok here | 10:56 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ok here | 10:56 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: at least can login and browse projects | 10:56 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7094 ? | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | works form e | 10:56 |
| lbt | well, good I suppose :) | 10:56 |
| Jake9xx | +1 | 10:56 |
| * lbt stops looking at backend logs and looks at LAN | 10:57 | |
| vgrade | morn Stskeeps | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 10:57 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: reboot your router(s) | 10:57 |
| * Stskeeps takes a look at electrical plan of his new apartment | 10:58 | |
| lbt | Jake9xx: hehe ... lets just say the LAN here is a bit organic and many years old | 10:58 |
| lbt | I was also playing with PAC recently to test Mer proxy handling | 10:58 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: I was saying to my wife the other day that one my friend has similar hobbies like me in UK, can I pay him a visit - she was like "sure, go" :) | 10:59 |
| lbt | we have a spare room... | 10:59 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: what's the nearest track? | 11:00 |
| lbt | walesd | 11:00 |
| lbt | wales, even | 11:00 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: she was more concerned that I'll bring another 928 from the trip as the n___a severance package money just came in | 11:00 |
| lbt | pfft - get a proper car | 11:01 |
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| lbt | sagaris | 11:01 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: RHD's over here don't have much value you know | 11:01 |
| lbt | :/ | 11:02 |
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| lbt | I'm not sure it'd cope with the winter either | 11:02 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: we don't drive with our loved ones during winter - that's the maintenance/rebuild time | 11:02 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: usually 928's stand on jack stands a year or two now and then :/ | 11:03 |
| lbt | you're only making the case for a Sag then | 11:04 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: actually a TVR is on my list when mortgage is done (and no new house is bought) | 11:04 |
| lbt | well, being sensible you should probably arrange to experience one.... | 11:05 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: what needs python-urlgrabber in core ? | 11:05 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron suggested yanking ... | 11:05 |
| lbt | wow ... mind reading | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: lookin' | 11:05 |
| phaeron | lbt: hehe | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | .. i don't have such a package? | 11:05 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: then why is m2crypto in core | 11:06 |
| lbt | m2crypto too | 11:06 |
| phaeron | come on | 11:06 |
| phaeron | :D | 11:06 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 11:06 | |
| Stskeeps | no reason, file a bug to have it removed | 11:06 |
| phaeron | yay | 11:06 |
| phaeron | lbt: you or me ? | 11:07 |
| lbt | phaeron: your idea | 11:07 |
| lbt | phaeron: check the patches on it though | 11:07 |
| lbt | I'm not sure what's going on there | 11:07 |
| phaeron | ok | 11:07 |
| * lbt wonders what it would take to get fbdirect on Mer | 11:09 | |
| Stskeeps | directfb, you mean? | 11:10 |
| lbt | I do | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | not much, probably | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | but what for/ | 11:10 |
| lbt | pretty screen for vbox SDK :) | 11:10 |
| phaeron | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=615 | 11:10 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 615 in m2crypto "Remove m2crypto from core" [Normal,New] | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | is it a task? | 11:10 |
| phaeron | lbt: use plymouth | 11:10 |
| lbt | phaeron: after boot | 11:10 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: dunno , it is broken , so I thought bug | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:10 |
| lbt | may just launch X | 11:11 |
| phaeron | lbt: Xvfb | 11:11 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly how best to lay cables | 11:11 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: is it plastered? | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | well, some of the walls are | 11:11 |
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| lbt | it's easier than you think to channel plaster, lay cable and plaster/paint | 11:12 |
| lbt | just to bear in mind | 11:12 |
| lbt | also putting coving into the upper wall/ceiling corner of the room provides a duct behind it | 11:12 |
| lbt | polystyrene coving covered in the paper that plasterboard is covered in is cheap/easy/durable | 11:13 |
| * Stskeeps ponders how much cabling he truly needs | 11:14 | |
| phaeron | I did ducts all around the home so I can add cables easily | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | https://homebroker.pl/oferta/1/1/175162 is new apartment, btw - i'm going to change the colours for sure | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:16 |
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| phaeron | congrats. pink! | 11:17 |
| lbt | is it on a boat? | 11:17 |
| RaYmAn | Other than the colors, it looks pretty nice :) | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | no, thank god :P | 11:17 |
| lbt | it keeps moving up and down | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: pokaz slajdow button | 11:18 |
| lbt | :) | 11:18 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: image ready? | 11:22 |
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| lbt | Jake9xx: watch log : http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121020-112350/ | 11:25 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: ok, so we go with this. Wiki to describe steps is Platform_SDK as before? | 11:29 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 11:29 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/929 can you kick that so I can know if it is a real failure | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, let me bring up reviewagain | 11:29 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: do we still support old Platform_SDK's chroot approach? | 11:30 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: yes | 11:30 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: ok, should it be updated at the same time too? | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: kicked | 11:31 |
| lbt | platform sdk page is more about mer core package builds slightly different audience | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | qtc is 'application sdk' angle | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:32 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: ok, then we just need to introduce the Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox to be the "first stop" | 11:32 |
| phaeron | ah I know why it failed | 11:32 |
| phaeron | stupid spectacle | 11:32 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: because that's where people usually end and are the quite confused :) | 11:32 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Platform_SDK | 11:34 |
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| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page#Developers is actually a bit ligt | 11:34 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: 'Again, good luck. ' LOL | 11:36 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: how to submit on top of old change ? (log is still 404 btw) | 11:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: ^ | 11:44 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 11:46 |
| phaeron | nm found docs | 11:47 |
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| lbt | Jake9xx: try the image now | 12:03 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: 10-4 | 12:12 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: image.gz.tar ? | 12:13 |
| lbt | nah - as per wiki page | 12:13 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: oh, so not from your dir :) ok, I'll follow wiki | 12:13 |
| lbt | I converted the raw image in that tarball to a vdi and then bz2 | 12:14 |
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| lbt | that was just a boredom removal log | 12:14 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: ok, fail - on this x230 at least ; complains about VT-x features eventhou they are on in settings. | 12:45 |
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| lbt | BIOS? | 12:46 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: I have been running nemo vm image on this computer. I'll check some stuff | 12:47 |
| lbt | oh | 12:47 |
| lbt | should be the same kernel :) | 12:47 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: things to check: only one core | 12:49 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: now it boots | 12:49 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: or not | 12:50 |
| lbt | does it start to boot? | 12:51 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: it starts but boot fails | 12:52 |
| lbt | ok - how? | 12:53 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/80004777@N05/8105235980/in/photostream | 12:54 |
| lbt | OK - that's not the image :) | 12:55 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: what do you mean, that's the screenshot - also cannot ssh into it | 12:56 |
| lbt | so the SDK runs at console level | 12:57 |
| lbt | no clue what's happening there | 12:57 |
| lbt | what version vbox? | 12:58 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: ii virtualbox 4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.1 | 12:58 |
| lbt | I use that version on my laptop | 12:58 |
| Jake9xx | hmm... | 12:59 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: I'll try with older image | 13:08 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: my laptop enforces memory to me at least 4MB, could that be an issue? | 13:28 |
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| lbt | 4Mb ? | 13:29 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: yes, 4Mb | 13:29 |
| lbt | RAM or GFX ? | 13:30 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: RAM | 13:30 |
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| lbt | I know we're doing mobile/embedded but that's a bit tight :D | 13:31 |
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| lbt | try 512Mb | 13:31 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: oh, how silly .. misread the M to G. hah. I'll try next | 13:32 |
| lbt | *g* | 13:32 |
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| CosmoHill | that's a bit of a difference | 13:33 |
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| CosmoHill | hey vgrade | 13:34 |
| vgrade | hey CosmoHill | 13:34 |
| CosmoHill | I'm only here between working on my car | 13:35 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: booted [x] | 13:36 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: how far did you get with the Pi image? | 13:36 |
| lbt | good | 13:37 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: I'll add these mistakes to wiki | 13:37 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: ok, what about QtC stuff then? | 13:42 |
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| CosmoHill | not very far, it booted and I got those three demos to work | 13:43 |
| CosmoHill | couldn't figure out how to change the resolution of them tho | 13:43 |
| CosmoHill | then went to bed | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: bored? | 14:38 |
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| vgrade | just tidying the office up a bit | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i have some idle time for getting qtwayland going | 14:39 |
| vgrade | ok | 14:39 |
| vgrade | I wanted to get a bit of background on that | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | sure, what do you want to know? | 14:40 |
| vgrade | well I've read a bit about wayland | 14:41 |
| vgrade | and weston | 14:41 |
| vgrade | but how does that relate to qtwayland | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | right | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | weston is an example compositor as such | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | qtwayland is both a wayland plugin and a compositor toolkit | 14:41 |
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| Stskeeps | on r-pi we don't use weston, we only use qtwayland | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | as it has less needs from the egl/gles stack | 14:43 |
| vgrade | you say a compositor toolkit, so we sill need a compositor | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | right, and there's some example ones, like qml-compositor | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | qwidget-compositor, et | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | c | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | i've made a fork also that is zephyr-compositor which integrates as a systemd user service | 14:44 |
| vgrade | ok so we will be able to use that to have multiple windows of qml apps | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:46 |
| vgrade | ok so first qtwayland plugin? | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | on it :P | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | it might be very simple so checking that atm | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | you'll act as tester? | 14:47 |
| vgrade | sure, Pi is armed with eglfsrpi | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:48 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders | 14:53 | |
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| lbt | do I *really* need to explicitly Requires(pre): /bin/rm when I use 'rm' in a %post section? | 15:08 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: http://qt-project.org/wiki/RaspberryPi has some notes on this | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i personally hate it but it may matter in ordering | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: what level are you doing it? | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | ie, mer base packages, or stack above? | 15:09 |
| lbt | above : it's for the sdk-vm package | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't matter much then | 15:09 |
| lbt | it seems to | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:09 |
| lbt | I'd have thought autoprovreq should spot it tbh | 15:10 |
| lbt | which I thought was default | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | it only does that for #!/ stuff | 15:11 |
| lbt | Ok - well, if I'm not doing anything blindingly stupid I'll just live with it | 15:12 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/stskeeps:/qtwayland-rpi/Mer_Core_armv6l/ | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | add that repo | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | and install: | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | qt5-qtwayland-rpi , qt5-qtwayland-rpi-examples | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | and go for /usr/lib/qt5/examples/qtwayland/qml-compositor/ | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | and ./qml-compositor -platform eglfsrpi & | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | do this over ssh, btw | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | and then try qmlscene -platform wayland | 15:26 |
| vgrade | ok | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | think i spotted why keyboard isn't working in yat properly meanwhile | 15:30 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, you using yat? | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | in zephyr, yes | 15:34 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: warning: group root- does not exist - using root | 15:34 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, we were thinking about using it for Nemo | 15:34 |
| faenil | as default terminal | 15:34 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: when installing examples | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: intruiging | 15:35 |
| faenil | MSameer tried porting it to Qt4. but he got stuck at a crash (only tried for an hour or so though :) | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: thanks, fixed in main qtwayland | 15:36 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: nice blue background | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | good that it comes up | 15:37 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: and qmlscene also | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: \o/ | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | that deserves a photo doesn't it | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | try minimer too? | 15:39 |
| vgrade | Using Brcm-EGL getExtendedOutput This plugin does not support propagateSizeHints() has fullscreen window: true | 15:39 |
| vgrade | ok | 15:39 |
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| vgrade | file:///usr/lib/qt5/examples/qtwayland/qml-compositor/WindowContainer.qml:55: TypeError: Cannot set property 'clientRenderingEnabled' of undefined - for qmlscene -platform wayland main.qml (minimer) | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:43 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: scratch that , I get the same error on plain qmlscene now. Stopping compositor and starting again | 15:46 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, is yat ok for Nemo? I haven't tried it yet | 15:49 |
| faenil | I mean feature-wiseù | 15:49 |
| vgrade | \o, minimer running transparent over the blue background | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: woo \o/ | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: video or photo :) | 15:50 |
| vgrade | then goes fullscreen when clicked | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:52 |
| vgrade | need to get another monitor in here | 15:54 |
| vgrade | So second run of qmlscene reports the error above | 15:57 |
| vgrade | and you need to stop start the compositor | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | probably just some apis that are misaligned or whatever | 15:58 |
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| * faenil wonder if his question was out of place :P | 16:08 | |
| Stskeeps | faenil: nah, just not sure how to answer :) | 16:08 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ok ;) | 16:08 |
| faenil | an ack would at least tell me that :D | 16:09 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: file:///usr/lib/qt5/examples/qtwayland/qml-compositor/main.qml:113: TypeError: Cannot read property 'parent' of null file:///usr/lib/qt5/examples/qtwayland/qml-compositor/WindowContainer.qml:55: TypeError: Cannot set property 'clientRenderingEnabled' of undefined . When trying to start minimer from running qmlscene | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -qa | grep qt5 | 16:14 |
| vgrade | http://pastie.org/5089417 | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | looks fine | 16:16 |
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| * lbt pushes another SDK VM image | 16:19 | |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: https://twitter.com/vgrade/status/259692460173824000/photo/1/large | 16:29 |
| rcg | hmmm.. the most recent versions of pvr-omap4 are all armhf :/ | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: mer armv7hl should work fine with that nowadays | 16:29 |
| rcg | last armel build is from some time around february | 16:29 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, cool, i see | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: good work | 16:30 |
| rcg | but Stskeeps if i want, say plasma active in arm7hl i would need to build the entire image myself right? | 16:30 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: your work :) | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: correct | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | which isn't really difficult | 16:31 |
| rcg | i think i would start off with the .ks file from the official distribution? | 16:31 |
| vgrade | So is qt5-qtwayland Pi specific with bcrm_egl? | 16:31 |
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| Stskeeps | correct | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: if you're lucky you can probably just s/armv7l/armv7hl/ | 16:32 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, well, i'll give it a try.. but i am not too optimistic right now | 16:33 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: so needs to live in CE:A:Rpi | 16:33 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, do you happen to have a link that explains on how to build images from .ks files? | 16:33 |
| vgrade | rcg, this is what you want , https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Vivaldi | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: yeah, i want to clean it a bit first though | 16:35 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: no probs | 16:36 |
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| vgrade | need to go do some housework now before guests arrive tonight. Thanks for the help | 16:37 |
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| rcg | vgrade, Stskeeps cool thanks :) | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 16:38 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: kulve cristi zuh https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#qt5_qml-compositor_and_qtwayland-rpi | 16:49 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: ping | 17:12 |
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| kulve | vgrade: you got wayland working? sounds cool. I haven't ever tried that, I guess it's about time as soon as I get back to home | 17:19 |
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| Jake9xx | alterego: is 'https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/User:Tswindell/Qt_Creator_And_Mer_Integration' the latest sdk story ? On the current VM approach it might not work as $PWD translates to $PWD of the current user in host, not the VM | 17:25 |
| vgrade | kulve: Stskeeps loaded the gun I fired the bullets, well tested it on top of my eglfsrpi plugin | 17:28 |
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| vgrade | kulve: builds on work done by Qt guys already on Rpi, sroedal dcarr etc | 17:29 |
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| vgrade | kulve: uses your pc files :) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=fixbrcmegl.patch&package=qtwayland-rpi&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Aqtwayland-rpi&rev=4 | 17:35 |
| Jake9xx | alterego: this way it works on the MerSKD, I'll play around with the nemo VM stuff now: http://pastie.org/5089711 | 17:38 |
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| crevetor | Hi | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | lo crevetor | 17:40 |
| crevetor | I see nice things happening with rpi :) | 17:41 |
| vgrade | crevetor: |o | 17:43 |
| crevetor | vgrade: \o | 17:43 |
| vgrade | crevetor: I did an image, linked from the wiki | 17:44 |
| vgrade | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 17:44 |
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| crevetor | vgrade: gonna try it right now :) | 17:52 |
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| rcg | got a question wrt the SDK: is the chroot method preferred? | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | for platform sdk yes | 18:15 |
| rcg | i cant find the chroot tarball for the SDK | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't sound good.. :P | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/mer-sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 | 18:15 |
| rcg | https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/ i assume that's the url? | 18:16 |
| rcg | well it's not there | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | we have some trouble with the img host, so | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 18:16 |
| lbt | rcg: try now | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: feel free to put sdk on releases.merproject.org too | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:17 |
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| lbt | yep - I need a 'release this ks to this location' boss process | 18:18 |
| rcg | lbt, it works :) | 18:18 |
| rcg | thanks :) | 18:18 |
| lbt | rcg: yeah - I typo'ed an rm | 18:18 |
| lbt | it's a symlink though so it's fine | 18:18 |
| lbt | if anyone wants to try the Vbox SDK install I'd appreciate feedback | 18:19 |
| lbt | you can actually share targets with chroot SDK too | 18:20 |
| rcg | lbt, i tried the bzipped vdi but couldn't start properly | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: or, 'hmm, let me run this scp to this location' ;) | 18:22 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: is the chroot image up-to-date? | 18:30 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: it's about 1m old | 18:31 |
| lbt | Jake9xx: it kinda is - the VM SDK is pre-release/rollnig | 18:31 |
| Jake9xx | rcg: memory : 2024Mb , port forwardings and VT-x stuff in order? | 18:31 |
| lbt | technically it could be redone with later Mer - but I'll do that when I do SDK release I think | 18:32 |
| lbt | rcg: we're interested in what issues people face gettng it going | 18:32 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: here's one of our problems currently.. there are quite too many 'sdk's out there | 18:33 |
| lbt | well, there are 2 | 18:33 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: and what people want is a nemomobile (or any VM with ui) where they can build and deploy apps with qt creator | 18:33 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: with two alternatives you have a risk of 50% to go wrong | 18:34 |
| lbt | not really - there will be different communication channels and routes to discovery | 18:34 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: I hope that you're right :) | 18:36 |
| * Jake9xx has seen quite many developer stories go south | 18:36 | |
| lbt | the wiki is not related to an app developer story | 18:36 |
| lbt | we need to be clear about that | 18:36 |
| lbt | the mer wiki vbox SDK is a solution to provide to a vendor | 18:37 |
| lbt | they then distribute it | 18:37 |
| lbt | does that make more sense? | 18:37 |
| Jake9xx | one question ; in this context what is 'vendor' ? | 18:38 |
| lbt | nemo or jolla or PA | 18:38 |
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| lbt | gotta go out ... bbiab | 18:39 |
| lbt | rcg: detailed feedback would be good if you have time | 18:39 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: later | 18:39 |
| phaeron | lbt: merds died ? | 18:39 |
| phaeron | lbt: it doesn't come back up after reboot ? (cf. maintenance) | 18:41 |
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| rcg | lbt, sure, ping me or drop me a mail with what kind of detailed feedback you need | 18:42 |
| phaeron | restarted it with nohup | 18:44 |
| phaeron | The system is going down for system halt NOW! | 18:46 |
| phaeron | great | 18:46 |
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| nemo | lbt: wrong nemo? :-p | 18:54 |
| nemo | lbt: I'm just here due to some thing about GLES2 for RPI | 18:54 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ht8w6OK2E | 18:56 |
| vgrade | nemo ,. https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 18:57 |
| nemo | vgrade: heh. no so much mer, but someone here did a writeup on building GLES2 apps on RPI :) | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: looks good | 18:58 |
| nemo | I'm hanging out for when I get around to trying to cross-compile hedgewars properly | 18:58 |
| nemo | since it runs at about 5fps in software rendering | 18:58 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, no libmagic in Mer? | 19:00 |
| rcg | hmm.. seems like the obs has some hickup: "connect to shell :8001: no route to host" | 19:00 |
| rcg | or did i break something in a very funny fashion? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | there's upgrades on meego.com tday | 19:01 |
| rcg | alright | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: in file-libs | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | and file-devel is devel headers | 19:02 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, roger, thanks | 19:03 |
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| faenil | still getting "No connection to dbus manager" or smthg like that when updating packages in MerSDK... | 19:08 |
| faenil | wasn't that fixed time ago? | 19:08 |
| faenil | got to "ignore" every time bluez, sensorfw and the whole family are updated | 19:09 |
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| faenil | ignores are actually related to "erase failed" errors, which still happen | 19:11 |
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| lbt | back | 19:24 |
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| lbt | rcg: [20/10/2012 19:20] <rcg> lbt, i tried the bzipped vdi but couldn't start properly <= so what happened? | 19:27 |
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| Jake9xx | I'm downloading a nemomobile image at 25kB/s.. only 50min remaining | 19:35 |
| * Jake9xx just loves finnish broadband operators... thanks to their "competence" I got cut off and they'll reconnect on monday | 19:36 | |
| Jake9xx | so, Joikuspot on my N701 and wifihotspot on my N9 are in use :/ | 19:37 |
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| rcg | lbt, well, to start i am not even sure if i have the correct vm configuration. e.g., i chose generic linux 2.6 | 19:54 |
| cat_x301 | Jake9xx: consider LTE? i just took 4G usb stick for trial and combined it with tp-link 3020 -- so far looks good. | 19:54 |
| cat_x301 | Jake9xx: ah, forgot to mention that it is sonera. | 19:54 |
| lbt | rcg: did you read the wiki page? | 19:55 |
| rcg | lbt, my bad.. apparently not :/ | 19:55 |
| lbt | you missed the small and subtle screenshot? :D | 19:55 |
| fk_lx | hi everyone - I often forget to greet people on IRC ;-) | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | lo fk_lx | 19:56 |
| lbt | hey fk_lx | 19:56 |
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| fk_lx | finally I've found time to try Nemo on N900 | 19:57 |
| fk_lx | and what I've saw is that a lot of hard work has been done | 19:57 |
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| rcg | lbt, ah well, i am already using linux 2.6... and yes, the screenshot is really subtle ;) | 19:58 |
| lbt | *g* | 19:58 |
| lbt | rcg Jake9xx I'm changing the NAT mappings on the wiki | 19:59 |
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| rcg | lbt, ah, i missed the shared folder... now it got further | 20:01 |
| lbt | rcg: important | 20:01 |
| lbt | did it complain in the console in a meaningful way ? | 20:02 |
| lbt | if not then you may have too old a VDI (ie not this afternoon's) | 20:02 |
| rcg | it said that /home/mersdk failed to mount and then spammed lots of other errors | 20:03 |
| rcg | i guess that's what had confused me | 20:03 |
| lbt | ok - that's an old image | 20:03 |
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| rcg | i see | 20:03 |
| lbt | sorry but it's very active development at the moment :) | 20:04 |
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| rcg | lbt, np :) | 20:05 |
| rcg | i think active development is actually very good :) | 20:05 |
| rcg | btw is it safe to share the targets directory among different vms? | 20:05 |
| rcg | not at the same time of course | 20:05 |
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| rcg | just in case things get updated in newer vms | 20:06 |
| lbt | rcg: the targets are safe to share | 20:07 |
| lbt | and actually, yes, at the same time too | 20:08 |
| lbt | they're read-mainly | 20:08 |
| lbt | so as long as you don't update them in 2 places at once you're OK | 20:08 |
| rcg | nice :) | 20:09 |
| lbt | also since your $HOME is shared then .sb2 is also shared | 20:09 |
| rcg | i see | 20:09 |
| lbt | that *could* cause issues though - we'll see | 20:09 |
| lbt | right now I like that my platform SDK and my Creator SDK are very similar indeed | 20:09 |
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| rcg | well, honestly, for me it is the first time i mess with the mer sdk | 20:11 |
| rcg | up to now i just compiled in my harmattan scratchbox and then used the obs to package rpms | 20:11 |
| lbt | the Mer Platform SDK is primarily for working on Mer and Nemo packages (and vendors will use it too) | 20:12 |
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| lbt | the VM one you're playing with will be integrated with QtCreator and used for Qt Apps | 20:13 |
| rcg | i see, sounds cool :) | 20:13 |
| lbt | hope so | 20:13 |
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| rcg | hehe, right ;) i'll keep my fingers crossed | 20:14 |
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