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Stskeeps | morn | 07:11 |
Stskeeps | crevetor: good work :) | 07:11 |
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Stskeeps | phaeron: http://review.merproject.org/929 misses .changes file | 07:17 |
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rcg | morning | 07:21 |
rcg | is there an estimate how long the upgrade of obs will likely take? | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | at least MDS should be up by now | 07:22 |
rcg | mds? | 07:22 |
Stskeeps | the fakeobs thingie | 07:23 |
rcg | i see | 07:23 |
rcg | i'll wait patiently | 07:24 |
rcg | at least i succeeded in building the latest plasma-active testing image for armv7l on my own here.. now i was about to look into going to armv7hl | 07:24 |
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Stskeeps | morn Sfiet_Konstantin | 07:25 |
rcg | Stskeeps, do you have any hints if there are things to keep in mind when switching a kernel from armv7l to armv7hl? | 07:27 |
Stskeeps | no, it doesn't make any difference | 07:27 |
Stskeeps | userland is where it's at | 07:27 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | morn everybody :) | 07:27 |
rcg | i see | 07:27 |
rcg | morning Sfiet_Konstantin | 07:27 |
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lbt | mmm nothing is building | 09:26 |
Stskeeps | mds is up again though | 09:27 |
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lbt | backend is down | 09:29 |
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lbt | it's been migrated to another phost | 09:35 |
lbt | it's like people don't realise how useful sunday morning is for actually getting stuff done :) | 09:45 |
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Bostik | assuming rest of the family complies, of course | 09:45 |
lbt | asleep! | 09:46 |
Bostik | fat chance | 09:46 |
lbt | kittens are fed and dozy... | 09:46 |
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lbt | now I just need to figure out why Sage_'s ruby packaging isn't working | 09:46 |
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vgrade | morn | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | morn vgrade, mikhas | 10:47 |
mikhas | moin | 10:47 |
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CosmoHill | hello | 11:22 |
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Stskeeps | wello CosmoHill | 11:22 |
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Jake9xx | lbt: got a minute? | 11:31 |
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lbt | Jake9xx: not right now ... later though | 12:11 |
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Sage_ | lbt: my ruby broke, since when? | 12:12 |
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Sage_ | I haven't tested it since I submitted so no idea when ;) | 12:12 |
lbt | http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-ruby/2012-05/msg00018.html I think | 12:12 |
lbt | I suspect we need to update our template .spec | 12:13 |
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lbt | phaeron: brilliant .. cbe is kinda up but ssh doesn't work and no xen consoles :/ | 12:18 |
phaeron | lbt: I gave up last night, when things were being randomly shut down | 12:19 |
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lbt | I think it's supposed to be up | 12:19 |
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lbt | hmm looks like the new phost isn't properly connected to the right vlan | 12:41 |
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vgrade | Stskeeps: sroedal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0XEUD36jY . maze compositor | 13:10 |
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faenil | vgrade, \o/ | 13:33 |
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lbt | so I've added a routing hack and the schedulers are doing a cold start ... lets see what else breaks :/ | 13:38 |
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mord | 3 | 13:52 |
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CosmoHill | they want £4100 to insure a £5000 car | 14:02 |
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vgrade | CosmoHill: your driving must be bad | 14:10 |
CosmoHill | it's a quote for a car I was looking at | 14:10 |
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lbt | and I think I've fixed publishing too | 14:21 |
lbt | please let me know of any cobs issues you're seeing from now on | 14:21 |
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fk_lx | hi all | 15:01 |
lbt | rpm macros are insane | 15:02 |
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billmania | Any suggestions for particular microSD cards to use with the Nemo images? Those which have acceptable throughput? | 15:03 |
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vgrade | Stskeeps: trying to compile yat , what on Mer provides util.h for forkpty | 15:06 |
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vgrade | Stskeeps: got it pty.h not util.h | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | billmania: class 6 or above | 15:14 |
billmania | Stskeeps: I understand that. Do you know of any specific brands and models which actually meet the Class 6 spec? | 15:14 |
billmania | I have a Lexar Class 10 which barely achieves 3 MB/s on sequential, large block writes. | 15:15 |
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billmania | For small file size random writes, it's less than one MB/sec. | 15:15 |
billmania | Its large file sequential read performance is fantastic, though. :) | 15:16 |
ShadowJK | All the sandisk cards I've benchmarked have reached their class spec. | 15:18 |
ShadowJK | Old sandisk class 2 did about 4-6M write when I tested it. New sandisk C4 does about 4M/s write. For random the old sandisk wins though. | 15:19 |
billmania | ShadowJK: SanDisk. Good to know. Which tool(s) have you used to benchmark them? I've been using fio on a 64 bit ubuntu machine. | 15:20 |
ShadowJK | coffeemug rebench | 15:20 |
ShadowJK | on a sheevaplug | 15:20 |
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rem | hi there, it look like latest image of nemo handset broke the video driver ? At least in exopc is flashing all the time | 15:31 |
Stskeeps | try to make a image based on the .ks? | 15:39 |
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vgrade | Stskeeps: did you fix the return key issue on yat? | 15:42 |
Stskeeps | no | 15:43 |
Stskeeps | thought it was libxkbcommon missing | 15:43 |
Stskeeps | wasn't it | 15:43 |
vgrade | wandering around the maze and hanging qml things on the wall is great fun | 15:43 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 15:44 |
rcg | lbt, are the workers running? or is just the status monitor broken? https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor/old | 15:52 |
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lbt | rpm packaging sucks. Meego packaging sucks. ruby packaging sucks | 17:07 |
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lbt | what's wrong with this %install section : | 17:08 |
lbt | %gem_install | 17:08 |
faenil | Stskeeps, he said rpm sucks! let the fight start! :D | 17:08 |
lbt | answer: the macro (magically) does cd /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/rubygem-bundler-1.2.1-0.i386/usr/bin | 17:09 |
lbt | OK .. fair enough | 17:09 |
lbt | but then what happens is rpm runs the local validators | 17:09 |
lbt | *WITHOUT* changing dir | 17:09 |
lbt | again ... fair enough - what validator would write to a dir? | 17:09 |
lbt | answer: /usr/lib/rpm/meego/find-docs.sh | 17:10 |
lbt | "touch documentation.list" | 17:10 |
lbt | result .... /usr/bin/documentation.list is not packaged | 17:10 |
lbt | what does google find btw... https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?opackage=ntfs-3g&oproject=home%3Azigbee&package=ntfs-3g&project=home%3Acxl000%3Atrimslice%3AMer%3Atesting&rev=7816f8593b4e781c469d86c4acf96fe2 | 17:10 |
lbt | poor cxl000 :) | 17:11 |
lbt | and zigbee for that matter | 17:11 |
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lbt | yay a worker | 17:31 |
rcg | ah pubworker02 is running =) | 17:32 |
rcg | congrats lbt :) | 17:32 |
lbt | turns out the puppet machine had filled up its disk | 17:32 |
lbt | so many rabbit holes | 17:32 |
lbt | and will probably have to reverse all this work tomorrow or tonight | 17:33 |
rcg | oh my | 17:33 |
rcg | sounds like much work | 17:34 |
lbt | :/ useless too | 17:35 |
rcg | mhmm :S | 17:35 |
lbt | as in "doesn't really move us/mer/nemo forward" | 17:35 |
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Stskeeps | nothing productive made, whatsoever | 17:37 |
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vgrade | lbt, connect to be-vlan60.pub.in.meego.com:5252: No route to host | 17:44 |
vgrade | lbt: from https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=qt-creator&project=home%3Avgrade%3Aqt-creator&repository=Mer_Core_armv6l | 17:45 |
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lbt | vgrade: looking | 18:06 |
vgrade | lbt: building now | 18:06 |
lbt | hopefully an old log | 18:06 |
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lbt | and puppet dbs were corrupted | 18:31 |
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rcg | uhm, is it just me or are the builds not succeeding? | 18:45 |
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lbt | rcg: details | 18:46 |
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rcg | lbt, you know i am nitpicking sometimes ;) | 18:49 |
lbt | *g* | 18:50 |
lbt | if you're seeing any issues though it's good to check - things are a bit sketchy | 18:50 |
rcg | "connect to be-vlan60.pub.in.meego.com:5252: No route to host" | 18:50 |
rcg | lbt, ^ | 18:50 |
lbt | OK, I thinkI just fixed that - check the log again | 18:51 |
lbt | possibly you'll need to trigger a rebuild - hope not | 18:51 |
rcg | hmm.. nope.. problem persists | 18:53 |
rcg | they continuously rebuild and keep getting above error | 18:53 |
lbt | yep - I think I see why | 18:57 |
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lbt | nope | 18:57 |
lbt | obs config is scattered all over the place | 18:58 |
rcg | hmm.. sounds nasty | 19:00 |
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lbt | phaeron: where the hell is the worker getting source-server address from ? | 19:04 |
lbt | /etc/sysconfig/obs-worker is right | 19:04 |
lbt | BSConfig on cbe and cstore is right | 19:04 |
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phaeron | lbt: check the init script , /etc/sysconfig is deprecated I think (also SLP (?) is used sometimes | 19:05 |
lbt | oh yeah slp crap | 19:05 |
lbt | . /etc/sysconfig/obs-server fwiw | 19:06 |
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lbt | phaeron: fuck .... it's in the job description | 19:16 |
lbt | I hate OBS so much sometimes | 19:16 |
phaeron | how does it know where to get the jobs :D | 19:17 |
lbt | cbe /obs/jobs/ | 19:17 |
lbt | I'll make be-vlan60.pub.in.meego.com resolve to the vlan110 IP for a bit | 19:18 |
phaeron | yes I know that's where the jobs are , I mean it has register with something to get jobs dispatched to it | 19:18 |
lbt | yeah - but the actual job has the src server url in it | 19:18 |
lbt | <buildinfo project="Mer:QA:Tests" repository="Mer_Core_i586" package="blts-common" srcserver="http://store-vlan60.pub.in.meego.com:5352" repose\ | 19:19 |
lbt | rver="http://be-vlan60.pub.in.meego.com:5252"> | 19:19 |
lbt | srsly | 19:19 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. | 19:19 |
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lbt | when the DNS cache expires in 10m it might start working again | 19:31 |
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lbt | ok - seeing build/publish successes in #meego-obs reporting | 19:33 |
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phaeron | lbt: I guess that got introduced in the worker pool sharing thing | 19:48 |
phaeron | but it still needs to register initially | 19:48 |
rcg | lbt, confirmed, seeing succeeded packages as well :) | 19:49 |
rcg | thx :) | 19:49 |
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rem | Hi, I wonder how often you publish a new build to latest ? I got after my previous install 229 updates and before that over 110. As a non-edge user I would expect that latest would be bit more fresh :-) ( less than 10 updates ) | 19:55 |
lbt | rem: our releases are time based | 19:56 |
rem | It is just my hardware that go to sleep during updates and quite often bricks ... | 19:56 |
rem | lbt: you mean that you publish once a week ? | 19:56 |
lbt | we set a date and shortly before we stop accepting new changes | 19:57 |
lbt | then we spend a few days and fix any bugs until it's stable | 19:57 |
lbt | usually we aim for every 2 weeks | 19:57 |
lbt | this can slip by a week or more if the bugs are troublesome | 19:57 |
Stskeeps | rem: a lot of it is rebuilds due to a dependency that changed that a package relied on | 19:58 |
Stskeeps | rem: so with deltarpm you'd see a lot less | 19:58 |
lbt | the release changelog has a list of code level changes | 19:59 |
rem | Stskeeps: what do you mean deltarpm, I use the package GUI, press refresh/update and that's it. | 20:00 |
rem | lbt: for example with exopc is much issue than with N9. For some reason exopc goes to sleep earlier during update. | 20:01 |
lbt | what are you running on it? | 20:02 |
rem | lbt: running nemomobile | 20:02 |
lbt | it's not a problem I'm aware of - have you logged a bug | 20:03 |
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rem | lbt: a bug for what ? for top updates :-) ? | 20:05 |
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lbt | what's the problem you're having? | 20:06 |
lbt | "hardware that go to sleep during updates" ? | 20:06 |
rem | lbt: I have this symptoms: first video flash randomly, second: GUI updates take long, third: hardware goes to sleep --> system bricks after sleep. Process restart | 20:08 |
rem | lbt: I wonder would it be better to do sw update in terminal ? | 20:09 |
lbt | rem: well, firstly, it would be good to report the bugs you're seeing - that way they will at least be looked at | 20:10 |
lbt | it's possible that there are workarounds like using the terminal - but that's not really a fix | 20:10 |
rem | lbt: how about a bug like: "latest stable does not honour its name" ? | 20:10 |
lbt | rem: likely to just be ignored :) | 20:10 |
lbt | we're more interested in bugs we can fix directly | 20:11 |
rem | lbt: good , and this one: video blinks when user input ( touch or keyboard ), after sw update system frozes" | 20:12 |
lbt | that sounds like 2 bugs | 20:12 |
lbt | or does the video only blink after updates? | 20:12 |
rem | lbt: video blinks when interacting with exopc ( keyb or touch ) | 20:13 |
rem | lbt: build under test is nemo-handset-i586-0.20120920.1.NEMO.2012-10-07.1.img | 20:15 |
lbt | OK, good. That sounds like a bug, yes. | 20:15 |
lbt | https://bugs.nemomobile.org | 20:16 |
Jake9xx | do we have 'ubuntu 10.04 LTS' as supported platform for platform SDK ? I get: | 20:16 |
Jake9xx | Error <mount>: Failed to mount '/dev/loop0' to '/var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-lC8jsh/install_root/' with command '/bin/mount /dev/loop0 /var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-lC8jsh/install_root/ -t ext3'. Retval: 32 | 20:17 |
Jake9xx | and if I look: | 20:17 |
Jake9xx | sudo /bin/mount /dev/loop0 /var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-lC8jsh/install_root/ -t ext3 | 20:17 |
Jake9xx | mount: mount point /var/tmp/mic/imgcreate-lC8jsh/install_root/ does not exist | 20:17 |
Jake9xx | which is funny, in /var/tmp/mic I have only 'cache' | 20:17 |
* lbt parses | 20:18 | |
lbt | (yes, it should work fine) | 20:18 |
Jake9xx | MerSDK jarko@ks21241:~$ ls -lad /etc/mtab | 20:18 |
Jake9xx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 21 20:01 /etc/mtab -> /proc/self/mounts | 20:18 |
lbt | modprobe loop | 20:19 |
rem | lbt: got bug 543 for video behaviour | 20:21 |
Merbot | Mer bug 543 in systemd "Systemd: network.target is never started (easy fix)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543 | 20:21 |
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rem | lbt: bug 543 about video was for hardware adaptation componet. Hope is OK | 20:23 |
Merbot | Mer bug 543 in systemd "Systemd: network.target is never started (easy fix)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543 | 20:23 |
lbt | that is the mer bug :) | 20:25 |
Jake9xx | lbt: it's empty. This is a remote server I used now and then for various things, I'll fix the loop issue first. Tnx for pointing out | 20:27 |
lbt | np - we should add some assumptions like that to the SDK page | 20:28 |
rem | lbt: and the winner for bug 544 is nemo :-) | 20:28 |
Merbot | Mer bug 544 in libtalloc "Drop libtalloc" [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=544 | 20:28 |
lbt | rem: I highlited ou in #nemomobile | 20:29 |
Jake9xx | lbt: better even, do some sanity checks in mount phase | 20:29 |
lbt | Jake9xx: yes, mic needs better user-hinting | 20:30 |
lbt | eg it fails with extlinux on some image types and would be better to say "please zypper in syslinux-extlinux" | 20:30 |
Jake9xx | lbt: actually it even gets worse: root@ks21241:/lib# modprobe loop | 20:31 |
Jake9xx | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.34.6-xxxx-grs-ipv6-32/modules.dep: No such file or directory | 20:31 |
lbt | (or it could be a depend - but it'snot needed on arm) | 20:31 |
Jake9xx | this is one messed up server... | 20:31 |
rem | lbt: cool, I wonder if nemomobile irc does have a bot announcing new bugs. That feature is awesome ! | 20:31 |
lbt | rem: you are in #nemomobile ... and yes it does | 20:32 |
lbt | Jake9xx: mmm | 20:32 |
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lbt | Jake9xx: nb ... if you want a decent virtual server then Hetzner are good | 20:32 |
lbt | hmm my kitten is attemping a DOS attack against kdm | 20:36 |
Jake9xx | lbt: kimsufi is cheap. It's like 15e/month on a two-processor machine with full access and stuff. I don't complain | 20:40 |
lbt | http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-produktmatrix - just fyi | 20:41 |
Jake9xx | lbt: ok, so it turns out this machine does not use stock kernel but it uses a vendor provided one. There are guides to set it straight but I cannot reboot it (other ppls services run here) so either way.. it's a dead end | 20:41 |
Jake9xx | I'm getting my broadband back tomorrow morning and these problems are gone.. I hope | 20:42 |
lbt | well, we do have img.merproject.org | 20:42 |
lbt | which is available to 'known' developers | 20:42 |
lbt | so if you want to build an image just yell | 20:42 |
lbt | if you're playing SDK that's differenct | 20:42 |
rcg | hmm.. now it's getting interesting... built the plasma-active specific adaptation stuff for armv7hl... just started the image creation from .ks via mic | 20:43 |
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Jake9xx | lbt: currently playing, just want to understand how this image creation works | 20:45 |
lbt | OK | 20:45 |
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CosmoHill | cyas | 20:51 |
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lbt | ah good, adam is awake and looking at vlan/switch issue | 22:20 |
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lbt | it's annoying that curl on mer doesn't support pacrunner/libproxy | 22:29 |
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vgrade | tripzero: \o | 22:47 |
trip0 | hi vgrade | 22:50 |
trip0 | what's new? | 22:50 |
vgrade | trip0: been doing some work on RaspberryPi and Mer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0XEUD36jY | 22:51 |
vgrade | you? | 22:52 |
trip0 | i'm porting a couple of my new packages to mer :) | 22:52 |
trip0 | maze compositor looks slick. first time i've heard of it | 22:52 |
trip0 | is it a window manager? | 22:53 |
vgrade | sroedal's work. uses the qtcompositor api's, sits on top of eglfs | 22:54 |
trip0 | cool | 22:54 |
vgrade | and wayland | 22:54 |
trip0 | ooo | 22:54 |
trip0 | wayland works on the pi? | 22:54 |
vgrade | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#For_maintainers | 22:55 |
vgrade | yes | 22:55 |
vgrade | all accelerated :) | 22:55 |
vgrade | some videos on my channel | 22:55 |
trip0 | sick | 22:56 |
vgrade | I see you have automotive message broker going on | 22:56 |
trip0 | i wish you were doing it for the beaglebone ;) It's a much better platform IMHO | 22:56 |
trip0 | :), yep | 22:56 |
vgrade | trip0: I have one still in a box | 22:56 |
vgrade | has canbus right? | 22:56 |
trip0 | bone has a canbus cape, yes | 22:57 |
trip0 | http://beagleboardtoys.com/wiki/index.php?title=BeagleBone_CANBus | 22:57 |
trip0 | the expansion abilities and the plethera of available expansions alone is worth taking a look at the bone | 22:57 |
vgrade | I am available for hire :) | 22:57 |
vgrade | I don't have a gfx cape get though for the bone | 22:58 |
trip0 | ahh | 22:58 |
trip0 | you need a dvi cape | 22:59 |
vgrade | right | 22:59 |
trip0 | do you accept gifts? I was going to order me one | 22:59 |
trip0 | might as well order 2 | 22:59 |
vgrade | are you doing anything with Tizen? | 22:59 |
trip0 | yeh, I've got automotive-message-broker working on tizen | 23:00 |
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vgrade | I'd rather not accept as I can't commit 100% to it | 23:01 |
vgrade | thnaks for the offer though | 23:01 |
vgrade | my day job gets me involved | 23:02 |
vgrade | in Tizen but not on Arm | 23:02 |
trip0 | tizen ivi? | 23:02 |
trip0 | why is build.pub.meego the slow? :\ | 23:04 |
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bobofosho123 | Hello | 23:11 |
bobofosho123 | is anyone home? | 23:11 |
chriadam | good morning, bobofosho123. | 23:11 |
bobofosho123 | good afternoon | 23:12 |
bobofosho123 | at least from where I live | 23:12 |
bobofosho123 | I had a few questions about my n9 for anyone that might know the answe | 23:12 |
bobofosho123 | *answer | 23:12 |
bobofosho123 | I was wondering why someone hasn't thought to lift the code that allows video calling from gtalk and modify it for skype | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | I know there different pieces of software | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | and different services | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | but I would guess it's possible | 23:13 |
dm8tbr | you're barking up the wrong tree | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | on the Nokia N9 | 23:13 |
dm8tbr | we don't care about harmattan in here | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | gotcha | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | just mer | 23:13 |
bobofosho123 | well thanks anyway | 23:13 |
dm8tbr | ask in #harmattan but don't expect serious answers to that topic. | 23:14 |
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nric | hello evryone, I'm trying to boot Nemo on Virtual Box ... I have a followed the wiki instructions but unucky. | 23:40 |
nric | when booting I have a first *error drm/i915 can't work without intel_agp module! | 23:41 |
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