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| cckwes | morning :) | 00:26 |
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| zuh | Sage_: I added sb2 build steps to http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Mer_%26_Nemo_Mobile_on_Snowball | 04:45 |
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| Stskeeps | Mark Shuttleworth writes on his blog about Ubuntu 13.04, "So what will we be up to in the next six months? We have two short cycles before we?re into the LTS, and by then we want to have the phone, tablet and TV all lined up. So I think it?s time to look at the core of Ubuntu and review it through a mobile lens: let?s measure our core platform by mobile metrics, things like battery life, number of running processes, memory footprint, ... | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | ... and polish the rough edges that we find when we do that. The tighter we can get the core, the better we will do on laptops and the cloud, too." | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | i like that i'm ahead of time :P | 06:10 |
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| Jucato | wanna bet they and the media will most likely spin this as "the first of its kind"? :) | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, hmm :P | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | the problem with taking a big desktop OS and mobile-izing it that there's a massive amount of community backlash | 06:13 |
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| Stskeeps | because of cut dependencies, less functionality, "my NFS setup on top of CIFS on top of IPSEC doesn't work" | 06:14 |
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| Stskeeps | only way to do it well is giving somebody free hands and starting from scratch.. unfortunately the usual way is that people then don't share the result | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | except in mer and tizen | 06:16 |
| Jucato | maybe they'll come up with something like an Ubuntu Core for the base system that works on different UHA (Ubuntu Hadware Adaptations) and Ubuntu and the other UI's will be UUX (Ubuntu UX) | 06:16 |
| Jucato | oh wait ;) | 06:17 |
| Jucato | on a very different topic, is there someone still working on Mer on N810? | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, the adaptation is there | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | and we have armv6 | 06:20 |
| situ | Morning everyone | 06:20 |
| Jucato | I have one lying around doing nothing I have absolutely no idea what to do with it. I was thinking I could maybe turn it into a mini server of some kind, but the packages there are just either too old or unavailable | 06:21 |
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| * Jucato wonders what the UX for an N810 would be too ... | 06:21 | |
| Stskeeps | well, razor-qt | 06:22 |
| Jucato | hm ... yes that could work :) | 06:23 |
| Jucato | thanks :) | 06:23 |
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| kaziklubey | Top o' the morning to ya all | 07:01 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:11 |
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| lbt | morning auri__ :) | 08:23 |
| auri__ | morning! | 08:24 |
| auri__ | hope you had a good trip back home | 08:25 |
| auri__ | lbt: ^ | 08:25 |
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| lbt | not bad - a bit of a delay and then *huge* amount of rain on the motorways - always fun :) | 08:26 |
| lbt | got your email thanks | 08:26 |
| lbt | oh, I found why the wrapper script works on the desktop - debian ships 2.5.0-2 of QtC | 08:27 |
| Bostik | morning indeed | 08:27 |
| lbt | ubuntu on the laptop has that old one | 08:27 |
| lbt | hey Bostik - hows Qt5 going? | 08:27 |
| Bostik | lbt: head-on-desk, with desk keeping the lead; damn qtwebkit is hungry for memory even with all the tricks we've tried so far | 08:29 |
| lbt | can you confirm that more memory will sort it out? | 08:29 |
| lbt | it's not hitting the 32bit limit or something? | 08:29 |
| Bostik | it's hitting just that | 08:30 |
| lbt | if it's RAM I can up the swap on OBS | 08:30 |
| lbt | well, I guess it's a generic Qt thing then - Qt will have to work on 32bit for a while :) | 08:30 |
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| Bostik | I have one trick yet untried, sts instructed me to make an account on build.ci.mer and try there, just in case the different setups would allow us to squeeze in | 08:32 |
| auri__ | k.. cool.. then.. will be waiting for the image | 08:32 |
| Bostik | been "a bit" rushed at work so not yet quite there... | 08:32 |
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| Bostik | lbt: you can compare the x86 and arm linking error for amusement value if nothing else; the error messages are entirely different but I find it unlikely it's a different issue | 08:33 |
| Bostik | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 for quick access | 08:33 |
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| sledges | hello! | 08:35 |
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| sledges | could you remind me: porting meego IVI to pandaboard on Mer is easier than beagleboard - why ? (soft/hardfp, proprietary glx, ... ?) (yes, meego ivi needs to be ported, no other alternatives currently in the project :)) | 08:37 |
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| * lbt wonders if it's worth putting anything in ld to instrument it? | 08:38 | |
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| Bostik | lbt: one of the earlier errors on x86 was more explicit, "/usr/bin/ld: out of memory allocating 1000 bytes after a total of 3385012224 bytes" | 08:47 |
| lbt | can we split the library? | 08:48 |
| Bostik | not any further, I think | 08:49 |
| Bostik | it's the "api" target library which fails | 08:49 |
| lbt | debug version? | 08:50 |
| Bostik | hum, good point... | 08:51 |
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| * lbt hates kickstarts in packages | 10:53 | |
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| lbt | there's no reasonable test/promotion mechanism | 10:54 |
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| smita_ | hi, i face a conflict with nemo package: nemo-theme: it says -> file /usr/share/themes/base/index.theme from install of meegotouch-theme-0.25.1-8.1.Project.MTF.MW.noarch conflicts with file from package nemo-theme-default-1.0.3-3.1.Nemo.noarch | 11:08 |
| smita_ | .. it started happening since yesterday.. what can be wrong | 11:08 |
| deztructor | smita_: phaeron Sage_ old meegotouch-theme-0.25.1 is taken instead of current 0.26.2 | 11:14 |
| phaeron | Project.MTF.MW is no longer in use | 11:15 |
| phaeron | isn't it ? Sage_ ? | 11:15 |
| deztructor | phaeron: so, smita_ branched from it... | 11:16 |
| smita_ | phaeron, deztructor with osc build i get this problem.. i have not installed old theme with Project.MTF.MW | 11:17 |
| deztructor | phaeron: good option can be to handle some wiki page to write down deprecated projects/packages there. Or to do it directly in the project description | 11:17 |
| phaeron | smita_: don't have Project MTF MW in you project path | 11:18 |
| phaeron | check osc meta prj -e | 11:18 |
| deztructor | phaeron: smita_ libaccounts-ui does not exist in any project now | 11:19 |
| deztructor | smita_: phaeron it can depends on something outdated from the Project MTF MW | 11:20 |
| deztructor | phaeron: smita_ the same issue is here: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=libaccounts-ui&project=home%3Aaard%3Astaging%3Aaccounts&repository=CE-MW-MTF_armv7hl | 11:21 |
| phaeron | deztructor: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=accounts-ui&project=CE:Apps | 11:21 |
| smita_ | deztructor, but since yesterday it was all fine | 11:21 |
| deztructor | smita_: because yesterday some packages are changed :) in the other project | 11:22 |
| deztructor | smita_: "yesterday was fine" is not an argument :) | 11:22 |
| deztructor | phaeron: this is libaccounts-ui but not accounts-ui | 11:23 |
| smita_ | deztructor, yes I know.. but I did not change anything in libaccounts-ui.. How can I fix it? | 11:24 |
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| deztructor | phaeron: u can investigate the issue in the old Aard project: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libaccounts-ui&project=home%3Aaard%3Astaging%3Aaccounts | 11:25 |
| deztructor | phaeron: its the same | 11:25 |
| phaeron | what issue | 11:25 |
| deztructor | smita_: has u checked "osc meta prj " as phaeron asked? | 11:25 |
| deztructor | smita_: in what project ru building it? | 11:26 |
| phaeron | I already said don't build against project:mtf:mw | 11:26 |
| smita_ | deztructor, phaeron yes .. its -> http://pastebin.com/XYXMbHmX | 11:27 |
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| deztructor | phaeron: smita_ maybe libaccount-ui just depends on something coming from project:mtf:mw | 11:27 |
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| phaeron | no that project is dead afaik | 11:28 |
| phaeron | it's all merged | 11:28 |
| deztructor | smita_: as u see from project config ur using Project:MTF:MW repo | 11:28 |
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| deztructor | smita_: and as phaeron said this project is outdated | 11:28 |
| smita_ | deztructor, ok , I wll remove this and try again | 11:29 |
| deztructor | smita_: so, if u need it just create it in the proper project | 11:29 |
| deztructor | smita_: u can't build someones home dir, u should create this package in the live project | 11:29 |
| deztructor | smita_: just checking out it again from the same place will not help u | 11:30 |
| deztructor | smita_: because src prj is _dead_ | 11:30 |
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| Aard | phaeron: I submitted some bits recently through project:mtf:mw, without sage complaining that it's dead | 11:53 |
| phaeron | I asked him yesterday id we are still using it and he said no. | 11:55 |
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| Aard | what would be replacement? | 11:55 |
| phaeron | all the bits there got merged to other projects afaik | 11:56 |
| Aard | directly to CE:MW:Shared? | 11:56 |
| phaeron | yes | 11:56 |
| Aard | ok | 11:56 |
| phaeron | I hope he can answer later Sage_ ^ | 11:56 |
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| auri__ | lbt: ping | 12:33 |
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| lbt | auri__: pong | 12:36 |
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| Sage_ | Aard: I though I said CE:MW:MTF is dead not Project:MTF:MW yes confusing ;) | 12:48 |
| Sage_ | Aard: all your sr's are in don't worry | 12:48 |
| Aard | Sage_: yes, I know they're in both projects | 12:50 |
| auri__ | lbt: just checking on the status of the image.. | 12:50 |
| Aard | I now changed to using CE:MW:Shared instead of the project thing, now stuff works again | 12:50 |
| lbt | auri__: working on it | 12:50 |
| auri__ | k | 12:50 |
| lbt | having a couple of issues which I should get fixed in the next hour | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: go for release | 14:11 |
| lbt | ok | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: we did some fixes post prerelease but i think we're good | 14:11 |
| lbt | just finishing some SDK VM work | 14:12 |
| lbt | working on a Nemo SDK VM image | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:12 |
| * lbt attaches post-it to forehead | 14:13 | |
| * lbt hopes auri__'s clock is slow too | 14:13 | |
| auri__ | :) | 14:13 |
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| auri__ | as long as the image works! .. smooth like a porsche! | 14:16 |
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| auri__ | lbt: any luck? | 15:08 |
| lbt | auri__: sry - disk space and bandwidth are slowing me down | 15:12 |
| lbt | I'm building an image locally now | 15:12 |
| auri__ | k | 15:13 |
| auri__ | I will probably be leaving in a little while.. so incase the build goes through.. will it be possible to upload it somewhere.. so that I can get a crack at it tomorrow morning? | 15:14 |
| lbt | yes | 15:14 |
| auri__ | cool.. thanks | 15:14 |
| lbt | I'll have it done tonight for sure | 15:14 |
| auri__ | great :) | 15:14 |
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| lbt | and phost5 is down | 16:49 |
| lbt | CI may not publish for a little bit | 16:50 |
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| phaeron | rip phost5 | 16:55 |
| lbt | it's lying dead in a little nest | 16:55 |
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| Stskeeps | ... | 17:02 |
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| lbt | nested kvm may be to blame - last time the slx admin did a reset and gave me credentials... sadly they don't work today | 17:03 |
| lbt | this is the problem with non mer-owned infra :) | 17:03 |
| lbt | but, to be fair, once I have reset credentials it should be fine | 17:04 |
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| Stskeeps | how far did rerelease get? | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | relesse | 17:13 |
| lbt | :) | 17:13 |
| lbt | not started - just finished testing the VM image | 17:14 |
| lbt | so I'm holding off until I hear back (or an hour or so) | 17:14 |
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| Stskeeps | gah, ok | 17:17 |
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| lbt | yeah | 17:18 |
| lbt | timing eh? | 17:18 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, lets move repo off there | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | ideally asap | 17:20 |
| lbt | so I do have hetzner admin access | 17:20 |
| lbt | it's just that he sent me the wrong passwd and of course I didn't check until now :/ | 17:21 |
| lbt | given repo is essentially just a mirror of cbe it's actually a good place for it | 17:21 |
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| lbt | so on balance I'm happy with leaving it as-is (unless we get rid of phost5) | 17:22 |
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| situ | Is there a way list all the available targets using osc ? | 18:52 |
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| lbt | situ: osc repos | 19:07 |
| situ | lbt: That shows the targets I have added. | 19:13 |
| lbt | ah right - then "no" ... every project can be a target | 19:14 |
| lbt | (and you can combine them in interesting ways too) | 19:15 |
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| situ | lbt: Thanks for the info. | 19:24 |
| lbt | np - what are you trying to do? | 19:25 |
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| situ | Actually I was trying to build some stuff on OpenSuse'S OBS. | 19:25 |
| situ | I want to buiit it for as many targets as I can. | 19:25 |
| situ | Anyways I have to leave now. | 19:28 |
| situ | Good night. | 19:28 |
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| vgrade_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7082 kulve Stskeeps cristi zuh | 19:53 |
| vgrade_ | fixes for 1/2 screen and remove LIB+ from pro | 19:54 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: when you have a moment can we plan next steps | 19:56 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so, i guess release is postponed to tomorrow? | 21:14 |
| lbt | it's running | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | ook | 21:14 |
| lbt | it doesn't actually use repo | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | good | 21:14 |
| lbt | in fact... | 21:14 |
| lbt | it's done :) | 21:14 |
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| CosmoHill | release? | 21:15 |
| lbt | good.... no 'space' messages or odd cpio ... | 21:15 |
| lbt | a Mer release | 21:15 |
| CosmoHill | oooo | 21:15 |
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| CosmoHill | I don't think I've ever been on the mer site or anything, just this channel | 21:15 |
| lbt | *g* | 21:16 |
| CosmoHill | I'm only here for you guys | 21:16 |
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| Stskeeps | you should try it out sometime | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | we have tshirts and cookies | 21:18 |
| CosmoHill | oooo | 21:19 |
| CosmoHill | i think I was going to work for someone and the payment would be meego stickers | 21:19 |
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| lbt | CosmoHill: rarity value? | 21:20 |
| * lbt decides to melt cobs | 21:20 | |
| CosmoHill | I never got any and he had some | 21:20 |
| CosmoHill | i think it was some web work | 21:20 |
| CosmoHill | night night | 21:23 |
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