Wednesday, 2012-10-17

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sonachMorning all00:21
chriadamgmorning, sonach00:22
sonachchriadam: what device are you using mer for?00:23
chriadamat the moment, I'm trying it on an n900:23
chriadamwith nemo00:23
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sonachlbt_away: hey, If I use the sdk of 'https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/mer-sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2', when doing 'mic create', it reports error: 'Error <creator>: Command 'modprobe' is not available.'. But If I use my old sb2-sdk, it's fine.00:32
sonachlbt_away: Maybe this is not a bug, and maybe i miss something. So just report it here :)00:33
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sonachlbt_away: ah,oops, I see the workaround information about this: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554. sorry for this :P00:37
MerbotMer bug 554 in Other "missing sbin in path after sudo causes mic failure because of missing modprobe" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]00:37
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sonachthank you, Merbot01:30
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iekkumorning03:44
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phinaliumzgood morning04:04
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BostikStskeeps: took a swing at the qtwebkit revert, doesn't apply cleanly and I'm really not up to resolving 1600+ conflicts just to test *IF* it might help; the mere fact it doesn't apply cleanly showed that it's something done after beta104:20
Bostikshould have looked at the log closer too, the offending commit was less than a day old...04:20
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situMorning everyone05:15
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Stskeepsmorn situ05:15
chriadamgmorning05:15
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ka6soxDo you Assemble images or build them on the fly?06:04
sonachStskeeps: ping06:04
Stskeepska6sox: assemble - we pre-build .rpms and then install them into a chroot06:05
Stskeepssonach: pong06:05
Stskeepska6sox: and you can build rpms independently and install onto device too06:07
sonachStskeeps: I try to boot mer on hi3716c, but it fails when mouting rootfs. Can you give some instructions? http://pastie.org/507162506:08
Stskeepssonach: can you verify sbin/init exists on the yaffs file system?06:09
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sonachStskeeps: yes. "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Oct 17 02:57 init -> ../lib/systemd/systemd"06:10
Stskeepscan you provide init=/sbin/init on command line for good measure?06:11
sonachStskeeps: it seems that the kernel can not find the rootfs after I set "root=/dev/mtdblock11". But I am very strange why android doesn't need this "root=" information...06:11
Stskeepsit uses a initramdisk maybe06:11
sonachok, i will try it06:12
Stskeepscheck if it says something about ramdisk too06:12
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niqtmorning06:13
sonachStskeeps: after adding "init=/sbin/init", it says "Failed to execute /sbin/init.  Attempting defaults..."06:13
Stskeepssonach: hmm06:16
sonachStskeeps: if I set "root=/dev/mtdblock7", the same error,06:17
sonachso I doubt that the kernel can not find the rootfs maybe,06:17
Stskeepssonach: i'd take a look at trying to unpack the yaffs if i was you06:18
Stskeepssomething doesn't smell right :)06:18
sonachStskeeps: the yaffs is made by myself, so I can check the whole directory. So what to check if you were me ?06:19
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sonachStskeeps: oh, you mean unpack the yaffs file?06:19
Stskeepsyes06:19
Stskeepsand verify the sbin/init really exists like you think it would06:20
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sonachso you think "root=/dev/mtdblock11" is ok? in hi3716m situation, there is just one NAND falsh; but in hi2716c, there are one SPI flash and one NAND FLASH. I am not so sure that the number"11" in "root=/dev/mtdblock11" is OK. anyway, I will unpack the file and have a look ,06:21
Stskeepsshould be..06:23
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jstanieklo *06:34
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Stskeepslo jstaniek, how's stuff/06:37
jstaniekI was never happer from state of mer, I just wonder - any chance to install plasma active 3  (http://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/stable/) on exopc? the installer script  fails here06:39
jstaniekso only boot from usb works06:39
Stskeepsjstaniek: do you select booting the image and not install in the boot menu?06:39
jstaniekI booted, went to konsole and tried some recommended installer script from /usr/sbin/ or so06:40
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Stskeepsok, and ran it as root?06:41
Stskeepsinstaller-shell it should be called06:41
jstaniekyes,  installer-shell06:42
jstaniekit did not detect my partition06:42
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jstaniekit tried to use my partition on USB, where I have no 3GB free06:43
jstaniekI altered the script to force DEV=sda or so06:43
jstaniekbut even then the script failed06:43
Stskeepshmm06:46
Stskeepsthat's awkward06:46
Stskeepstry nemo and see if it does the same?06:46
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jstaniekI will as soon as I have free time, thanks06:50
koala_Stskeeps : hello. can I ask something?06:51
jstaniekStskeeps: that said, mer really rocks; I've seen a number of embedded (often custom) OSes, mer looks really good06:52
Stskeepskoala_: sure :)06:53
Stskeepsjstaniek: yeah.. did you see my libhybris demos too?06:53
jstanieknot yet06:53
Stskeeps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb3Jz-lAGK4 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvRP3rcF9o06:54
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Stskeepsi'll let you guess what kind of impact this has :)06:54
jstaniekStskeeps: I've seen the videos of course06:54
Stskeepsah, ok06:54
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Stskeepsi've told so many i forgot who has seen or not ;)06:54
jstaniekyes it is... huge reach of the existing hw I guess?06:54
Stskeepsyup06:54
Stskeepstake android ODM adaptation, use libhybris, ???, profit06:54
Stskeeps:P06:54
Stskeepsstill some leg work to be done, but it works pretty nicely already06:55
jstaniekI wonder how to attack this topic at Samsung, would they care...06:55
koala_stskeeps: the latest hybris patch and hybris code is work just for gingerbread?06:55
Stskeepsjstaniek: well, as it stabilizes it gets more interesting06:55
jstaniekmaybe as possible escape from android after tizen's failure...06:55
Stskeepskoala_: should apply for ICS too, if it doesn't, let me know06:56
Stskeepskoala_: ics or jb06:56
Stskeepsjstaniek: well, that's where wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr comes in06:56
Stskeepsactually building a stack that can take full advantage of this06:56
Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qmlcomponentgallery.png06:57
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jstaniekcool06:57
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Stskeepsso you can develop system/ui side without a solid hw adaptation, with a fast vm with same stack in it06:57
Stskeeps'lo erbo, welcome to #mer :)06:58
jstaniekStskeeps: is Zephyr part of what Jolla uses?07:00
erboStskeeps: thanks :)07:00
Stskeepsjstaniek: i can't answer that, but for a thing like this it makes sense to develop in the open07:00
Stskeepsthere's no reason for us all to do different kind of stacks that'll end up with the same thing :)07:01
koala_Stskeeps : I got some build error in libc with lastest patch in ics, so hope to know the test android version of the patch.07:02
jstaniekStskeeps: btw, is license for designs of QML components of N9 open? I see demos here and there, and gfx looks like from N9/95007:02
jstaniekI mean visual design07:02
Stskeepskoala_: ok, show me the error? did it apply OK?07:02
Stskeepsjstaniek: we have a noncommercial theme made by a community member that is looking a bit like it07:03
jstaniekah07:03
Stskeepsit should be trivial to write own theme or own components07:03
jstanieklooking forward to hear announcements from Jolla in Nov07:03
Stskeeps:nod:07:03
Stskeepserbo: [08:54] <Stskeeps>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb3Jz-lAGK4 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvRP3rcF9o07:04
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Stskeepserbo: is probably what you're interested in07:04
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erboStskeeps: yep :) really interesting work!07:08
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vgrade_morn07:44
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phaeronmorning07:47
Stskeepsmorn phaeron07:47
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kulvevgrade_: morning. Sorry, didn't have time to comment yesterday but it looks like to made further progress in the evening with the Qt platform plugin? :)07:55
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kulves,to,you,08:31
Stskeepsyeah, good demos08:31
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kulveis there something else needed for Qt5 on RPi besides that plugin? Does the generic ARMv6 build of Qt5 on Mer automatically use that plugin if it's provided?08:40
Stskeepsyou can install it i guess and perhaps set a environment variable for -platform08:42
StskeepsQT_QPA_DEFAULT_PLATFORM08:43
kulveI guess the plugin could be moved from vgrade's repo to CE:A:RPI and add /etc/profile.d/qt-rpi.sh (etc.) for the environment variable08:44
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vgrade__kulve: fell free to move over09:28
Stskeepsjust remember it needs to be a linkpac from qtbase initially09:28
Stskeepsin your repo09:28
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vgrade__it needs one mod to remove a change I made to reduce the screen size by half but other than that should be good to go09:29
vgrade__kulve: or do I need to submit request it to there.  not sure as I've not done that before09:29
Stskeepsyou'll want to linkpac from Mer:MDS:Core:armv6l qtbase to the package name in the CE:A:RPI09:30
Stskeepsand then SR09:30
vgrade__ok, I'll do that tonight09:32
kulvevgrade__: while at it, you have "LIBS += -lbcm_host" in qtplatformplugin-rpi.pro. I think that should already come from the pkgconfig files and could be removed09:33
kulveless there is rpi specific lines the better :)09:34
vgrade__kulve: I did try without I think, maybe it was related to the GLESv2/glesv2 issue09:34
vgrade__kulve: comments and patches very welcome though09:35
kulvehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=egl.pc&package=gfx-rpi&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3ARaspberryPi&rev=b03d83aad92348ff7cdc151a1c136ef609:35
kulveat least -lbcm_host is there09:35
vgrade__kulve: we can give it a try with +LIBS removed09:37
kulvelet's do so. What's the point of .pc files otherwise :)09:38
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koala_stskeeps: hello10:56
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koala__stskeeps: I'm sorry. I was disconnected11:28
Stskeepsno problem11:28
koala__my last question was about your answer - [20:03] <Stskeeps> the reason it modifies it is because we can't have android bionic and glibc TLS areas mix. it causes corruption :)11:28
Stskeepsok11:29
koala__so Though libhybris linker doesn't use pthread_create in android bionic c, the corruption is produced?11:29
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Stskeepskoala__: i think the problem is simply that the ics linker doesn't skip libc.so11:30
Stskeepsas it should11:30
koala__you mean ics linker should skip libc?11:31
Stskeepsyes11:31
koala__yeah, so I already skip it in ics linker11:32
Stskeepsok11:32
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Stskeepsif it stil fails, i need to see full log of the test program11:32
koala__ok11:32
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rferrazzi'm trying to build mDNSResponder but it wont compile, it fails every time at this step: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=mDNSResponder&project=home%3Afiorentux&repository=Mer_Core_armv6l11:42
rferrazzcan someone help me?11:42
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Stskeepsrferrazz: waiting for all builds to finish, then i'll check11:46
rferrazzok11:48
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Venemo_N9hey :)11:50
Venemo_N9what's up?11:50
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rferrazzit seems like a cross-compiler related problem12:08
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Stskeepsmaybe12:10
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sledgesrferrazz, would a fresh D-Bus dependent project (hello world) fail the same way?12:12
sledgesif deps clash12:12
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Stskeepshello niweber :)12:16
rferrazzmDNSResponder don't depend on d-bus12:16
niweberhi12:17
Stskeepsniweber: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time :)12:17
Stskeepsniweber: so what brings you here?12:17
niweberStskeeps: thanks, well, it is work related, me working at the qt sdk12:18
Stskeepsniweber: alright :) offer still applies ;)12:19
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Venemo_N9what do you guys think about the nexus 7?12:29
sroedalseems pretty sweet12:30
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sledgesrferrazz, I was talking about the first error (loading shared dbus libraries) - apparently (and hopefully) unrelated to your problem sorry12:31
Stskeepsrferrazz: you might have to link against libgcc12:32
Stskeepsi'm not entirely sure why though12:32
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sledgesrferrazz, somebody already had this problem back in 2010, here's a hopeful solution: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/2428812:33
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Venemo_N9any chance of running mer on that thing?12:38
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Stskeepsnexus 7 was what SoC?12:38
dm8tbrStskeeps: seems to be T312:39
Stskeepsok12:39
Venemo_N9tegra 3 afaik12:41
rferrazzStskeeps, so i've to add things like make CFLAGS=-lgcc12:42
Stskeepsrferrazz: or just patch automake12:42
rferrazzStskeeps, ok, tonight i'll try, tank you!12:43
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zuhplease halp! http://pastie.org/507314613:35
zuhLooks like some next branch is borked?13:35
StskeepsSage_: ^13:38
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Stskeepsprobably just a mismatch in repo somewhere, i know we fixed some theme stuff13:39
w00tdeztructor: ^ too13:40
auri__lbt: ping13:41
lbtssh -x mersdk@localhost -p 3334 "cd $PWD; $(basename $0) $@"13:41
* zuh continued with commenting out unndeeded package group, but will test if there is something to test...13:47
zuh*groups13:47
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deztructorzuh: w00t Sage_ Stskeeps this is because i submitted 3 related srs separately due to osc bug and one was accepted but not others, now 2 other packages are waiting for review, sr 706414:12
phaerondeztructor: sage is telling me to handle stuff while he is away14:13
phaerondeztructor: I am going to test the SR14:13
phaerondeztructor: in your comment there  you said the other package needs to be removed ?14:13
deztructorphaeron: can u check and test? i tested all this stuff on my n95014:13
deztructorphaeron: yes, because obs is handling obsoletes/provides incorrectly14:13
phaerondeztructor: it usually doesn't. however you could have added a delete request to that creq as well14:14
deztructorphaeron: and it will fail because meegotouch-theme-graphics is provided by 2 packages, ignoring fact 2nd package obsoletes it14:14
phaerondeztructor: can you do that please to prevent things breaking until the package is removed ?14:15
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deztructorphaeron: we discussed it already, lbt_away and you agreed obs is not always handling obsoletes correctly14:15
phaeronin your creq -a delete <project> <package>14:15
deztructorphaeron: i can just modify existing request as i understand?14:16
deztructorphaeron: or need to resubmit it?14:17
phaerondeztructor: I don't you can modify the request .. that would be cool if possible :D14:17
phaerondid you something in osc help related to that14:18
phaerondeztructor: sorry about all the boring work14:18
deztructorphaeron: :)14:18
deztructorphaeron: so, i cancel and submit new creq14:18
phaeronyes please14:19
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deztructorphaeron: done, 706514:21
phaeronthanks14:21
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Stskeepsvgrade__: when are you home from work?14:28
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vgrade__Stskeeps: 3 hours ish14:31
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Stskeepsk14:32
vgrade__anything I can do now?14:32
Stskeepsnah, was pondering to help you a bit with SR'ing and stuff14:33
Stskeepsso it gets properly set up14:33
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vgrade__Stskeeps: any help welcome :)14:38
Stskeepsvgrade__: so you need to SR the gfx-libs and then linkpac qtbase to the r-pi adaptation with a different name and then sr?14:39
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Stskeepsi can do the linkpac'ing but you need to do the SR'ing14:40
vgrade__Stskeeps: I did not change the gfx-libs in the end just used them to build against.  So its just the linkpac to r-pi adaptation project with new name platfromplugin-rpi then sr the platfromplugin-rpi from my home project?14:41
Stskeepsok14:41
Stskeepsyou're able to do a SR at the spot?14:42
vgrade__yes14:42
Stskeepsok, sec then14:42
Stskeepsok, now SR your platform plugin to CE:Adaptation:RaspberryPi14:44
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vgrade__Stskeeps: ok submitted14:52
vgrade__who accepts ?14:53
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Stskeepsi'll review14:53
vgrade__Stskeeps: do I have to add someone14:54
vgrade__Stskeeps: do we need the Prefer: options adding as well into that project?14:55
Stskeepswill see14:55
Stskeepsseems pretty straightforward, no need for Prefer:14:57
vgrade__Stskeeps: woops left those exports in14:58
Stskeepsjust remove them in a second SR14:58
Stskeepswas the half size thingies removed?14:58
vgrade__Stskeeps: ah, no15:01
Stskeepso15:01
Stskeepsk15:01
vgrade__Stskeeps: so to fix that I branch from CE;A:rpi then sr again?15:01
Stskeepsyes15:02
vgrade__ok tonight then.  Still usable as it is though15:02
Stskeepsyep15:02
vgrade__my first sr :)15:02
Stskeepsproblems about buying a new apartment: what color to choose for the raspberry pi case to match the paint..15:04
vgrade__Stskeeps: why hid it, go with transparent15:05
vgrade__hide15:05
Stskeepswell, i need a case in the first place, wife didn't want it free standing..15:06
Stskeepsalbeit im not sure if that's "accidentially pour water on it" or "board looking"15:07
vgrade__kulve: zuh cristi_ platformplugin-rpi in CE:Adaptation:RaspberryPi15:08
Stskeepswhat's the plugin name when using -platform,  btw?15:08
vgrade__eglfsrpi15:08
Stskeepsok15:08
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kulvevgrade__: great!15:25
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vgrade__kulve: was thinking about https://gitorious.org/qtmediahub , what is the video playback situ on Pi15:44
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kulvedecoding works, rendering not15:46
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kulvethere is omx rendering example. It might not be too big task to implement that in gst-omx15:50
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rcgevening all16:33
Stskeepsevening rcg16:34
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rcghow's it going?16:37
Stskeepstrying to figure out why suddenly my usb networking has stopped working on my touchpad16:38
rcgi see16:40
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Stskeepsno, networkmanager16:49
Stskeepsmy touchpad is not my nokia n95016:49
Stskeepsyou stupid thing16:49
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Stskeepshow can my s10-3t connect to my touchpad fine and not you17:02
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Stskeepshello Kam17:12
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vgrade_kulve: ok17:18
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Stskeepspq: what was it you said about gralloc buffers, that on some setups it's only compositor that can make them?17:45
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pqStskeeps, yeah, that's the rumour. I don't know which devices that would be.17:46
Stskeepsalright17:47
pqor maybe it was root permissions17:47
pqunderstandable in the sense, that it gives total control to the compositor over gfx memory17:48
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* Stskeeps ponders idly17:51
pqnow to think of it, I always ran everything as root on the GN :_p17:51
Stskeepsi'm pondering why i'm trying to move wayland functionality into libhybris when you have a nice patch adding it to the libegl impl17:54
CosmoHillbecause you can17:54
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Stskeepsthen again i'd like to reduce as much dependency on the android code as i can .. hmm17:55
pquh, if you can get rid of the C++ libEGL, PLEASE DO! :-P17:57
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Stskeepsi'll take that as good advice :P17:58
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pqoh the insanity, not only the template-inflated multiple inheritance disaster, but the actions, too: your app calls a function, and that may cause the function to be called on none, one, or both EGL implementations18:01
Stskeepsfun18:02
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CosmoHillStskeeps: do you use any tablets?18:04
Stskeepsplenty18:04
CosmoHillin a non-developer way?18:05
Stskeepshp touchpad, nook color, n900, n810/n80018:05
Stskeepsspeaking of which, where -is- my n810..18:05
pqand in the end, the C++ libEGL is just a thin wrapper. Quite well obfuscated, though.18:05
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faenilany hw adapt for Tegra3 devices?19:47
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faenil(talking about Nexus7) :P19:47
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CosmoHillStskeeps: on your tablet, do you write down notes and draw diagrams?19:58
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Stskeepsi used to on n8x020:01
CosmoHillany good?20:01
Stskeepswas okay20:03
Stskeepsi had horrid handwriting though20:03
faenilStskeeps, anything on Tegra3 yet? or Tegra2 too20:03
Stskeepsfaenil: didnt try t320:03
faenilokay20:03
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Stskeepslbt: back in UK?20:31
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vgrade_faenil: I was looking for a T3 device but no one sent me one yet21:27
faenilI see...21:27
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vgrade_faenil: contacted Asus UK but no response21:28
faeniloh :) as a trial?21:28
vgrade_faenil: I sent them examples of my work on Tegra 2 and Plasma Active hoping for a T3 device to play with.   I'm very interested in the low power modes of T321:30
faenilI see...21:30
faenilwell, hope you get it! ^^21:30
faenilvgrade_, have you finished the homemade smartphone project? :)21:32
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vgrade_faenil: I booted mer on it but nothing more as yet21:34
faenilthat's something!21:34
vgrade_faenil: bit busy on other things and that project requires some electronic skills21:35
faenilvgrade_, I was thinking, can't I just swap N950's display? it's response it tooo slooow21:35
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faenilits*21:35
faenilits response time is tooo loow21:35
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faenilI meant to say it's too high...pixels refresh slowly21:37
faenildamn my brain is frying :D21:37
vgrade_faenil: those things are usually made to fit only one device21:44
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faenilwho cares about the shell :D21:44
faenilanyway, good night! :)21:49
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