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| situ | Hi all | 08:24 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: btw, a lot of our QA tests has configuration settings | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | like, use this alsa device, use this bpp .. | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | have we considered how we vary this per device to device? | 09:18 |
| phaeron | not really. I think they should have sensible defaults that apply to 80% of cases at least | 09:19 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 09:20 |
| phaeron | if there's one alsa device , then there's not much to configure :) | 09:20 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: we're not using libproxy ? | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | we're using pacrunner which is much more lightweight | 09:36 |
| lbt | but doesn't support local static proxy settings | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | moment, there was a pretty good reason.. | 09:37 |
| lbt | OK - I'm just setting up hostname and stuff for SDK to support PAC config and then using a local wpad server | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | right, the issue is that libproxy depends on either a full webkit or mozjs | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | neither of which i really want to load into apps | 09:40 |
| lbt | no | 09:40 |
| lbt | http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/issues/detail?id=152 | 09:40 |
| lbt | guessing the full mozjs is needed to support pac | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | right, pacrunner uses v8 though | 09:41 |
| lbt | and wonder if that patch means you could ./configure without mozjs | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 09:43 |
| * lbt wonders about hacking pacrunner too | 09:43 | |
| lbt | to look at /etc/pacrunner/wpdat.dat before doing a query | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | Build-Depends: cdbs (>= 0.4.93~), debhelper (>= 8.1.3~), gnome-pkg-tools, autotools-dev, python-all-dev (>= 2.6.6-3~), network-manager-dev [linux-any], libdbus-1-dev, libmozjs-dev (>= 6), kdelibs5-dev, libqt4-dev, libwebkitgtk-dev, gconf2, libxmu-dev | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | makes me shiver though | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully some of those are optional | 09:43 |
| lbt | *g* | 09:44 |
| lbt | I like the /etc/pacrunner/wpdat.dat idea | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw, where do you plan on putting a local wpad server.. | 09:45 |
| lbt | you mean on device or my LAN ? | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so it's for your use case | 09:45 |
| lbt | no, I meant to support local proxy config | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:46 |
| lbt | pacrunner does an http call and feeds resulting js to v8 ... yes? | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 09:46 |
| lbt | so hack pacrunner to check for /etc/pacrunner/wpdat.dat | 09:46 |
| lbt | it has a 'search' list of DNS to try | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:47 |
| lbt | so this becomes the local override - it would support local proxy settings for the rare case we need them | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | i'm aware pacrunner looks a bit like a NIH from intel's side but i can somewhat agree with their more lightweight approach.. | 09:47 |
| lbt | oh yes | 09:47 |
| lbt | and it's very mobile oriented | 09:48 |
| lbt | and I just implemented a js that says "proxy all rpm urls via my caching proxy" :) | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:48 |
| lbt | my main concern is situations where a user wants to force a proxy for Mer, not Nemo | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | i think if you can force a proxy for one rpm repository or the other, the ball's in your court to fix issues | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:50 |
| lbt | *g* I'm hacking on SDK and when I wipe the image and reinstall sb2 and it downloads fresh each time... it's sloooooow | 09:51 |
| lbt | so I thought ... "set the proxy" .... | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | btw | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | did you restart the workers? | 09:51 |
| lbt | yes | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:51 |
| lbt | and the scheduler | 09:51 |
| lbt | very late last night though - maybe 1:30? | 09:52 |
| lbt | they were running the cold start last I checked before I left | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:52 |
| Bostik | btw, ease telll me we have recent enough mesa for qtwayland's needs | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: else grab it from https://build.ci.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Astskeeps%3Azephyr | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | there's patches to make it work properly | 09:54 |
| Bostik | phew | 09:54 |
| Bostik | at least somewhere :) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | i need to peek at mesa 9.0 as well | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr may also be useful | 09:57 |
| Bostik | oh yes, that'll be a resource | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qmlcomponentgallery.png - got it to this point, so fairly good base | 09:58 |
| Bostik | mesa is just one of specially evil things to package - even hunting down cherrypicks is at times hideous | 09:58 |
| Bostik | and I'm pretty damn close to getting qtwebkit nicely done | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 09:59 |
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| Bostik | arm/thumb/nonthumb done; egl/gles stuff done; npapi exclusion WIP... | 10:04 |
| Bostik | many of the 2.2.x build hacks are now part of upstream and their source-local qmake/mkspec overrides :) | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | good :) | 10:05 |
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| Stskeeps | moin mdfe | 10:10 |
| mdfe | good morning :) | 10:11 |
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| Stskeeps | how's stuff? | 10:11 |
| mdfe | just woke up... | 10:13 |
| mdfe | with bad headache | 10:14 |
| mdfe | ;) | 10:14 |
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| mdfe | thx :) | 10:15 |
| CosmoHill | I only got out of bed 10 minutes ago or so myself | 10:15 |
| mdfe | hehe | 10:16 |
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| Skry | does anyone here know about sgx 530 and 32bpp depth? I'm getting some strange behaviour here.. | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | use 16bpp | 10:28 |
| Skry | just experimenting here. when X is at 24/32 depth, whole screen gets "multiplied" so it consists of 4 small screens. | 10:30 |
| Skry | it's hard to explain | 10:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 10:31 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps I read this yesterday: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | It says that you shouldn't use the "Copyright", "Packager" and "Vendor" tags | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I'm assuming this are Fedora specific things? | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:That the Fedora Packagers don't want you to use when building packages for Fedora? | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Are there similiar requirements for the Mer Project? | 11:36 |
| Aard | Superpelican: are we using any of those tags? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | just use License: and that's enough | 11:36 |
| Superpelican | Aard: I don't know | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | rest is done automatically | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | That's why I'm asking | 11:37 |
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| Superpelican | Are there any specific things that I should keep in mind when building RPM packages for the Mer Project | 11:37 |
| Superpelican | That are Mer specific and not standard when building RPM packages for other distro's | 11:37 |
| lbt | Superpelican: did you ever read the python 2.x packaging for Mer? | 11:38 |
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| lbt | FYI pacrunner doesn't do the wpad bit ... connman does that. And connman already supports 'manual' configuration (somehow) | 11:39 |
| CosmoHill | my laptop battery died so hard my laptop woke up in 1970 | 11:39 |
| Superpelican | lbt:No, where can I find it? | 11:42 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Source | 11:42 |
| Superpelican | lbt: Can't find any information about python 2.x packaging | 11:43 |
| lbt | what does the first line on that page say? :) | 11:44 |
| Superpelican | lbt:That python.spec is much shorter than the python3.spec of openSUSE! | 11:46 |
| lbt | I know | 11:46 |
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| lbt | the first bit of advice I gave you was to start with the current python 2.x package, build it and then go from there | 11:47 |
| Superpelican | lbt:So all those .so's that are below %files lib go in the rpm package :0 | 11:47 |
| Superpelican | lbt:So I've to manually check all the libs of python 3 | 11:48 |
| lbt | yep - also notice there is a .yaml file | 11:48 |
| Superpelican | lbt:Which should go in the RPM | 11:48 |
| lbt | yes | 11:48 |
| Superpelican | lbt:But was does the .yaml file do? | 11:48 |
| Superpelican | lbt:It only gives information, right? | 11:48 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle | 11:48 |
| Superpelican | lbt:But why use .yaml files and convert them to .spec if you can use .spec straightaway? | 11:49 |
| Superpelican | lbt:What the advantage? | 11:49 |
| rcg | Superpelican, yaml is much easier to handle | 11:49 |
| rcg | also spectacle gives you nice hints in case something is wrong or could be improved | 11:50 |
| rcg | furthermore, handling patches is much easier this way | 11:50 |
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| rcg | overall, i would strongly suggest going with yaml + spectacle | 11:51 |
| Superpelican | rcg, lbt:But how am I ever going to find out which libraries rpm should put in the .rpm? | 11:51 |
| Superpelican | And I probably can't copy that part of the python.spec in Mer GIT | 11:51 |
| * rcg was really sceptic about yaml+spectacle before but when you get used to it you quickly learn to value its benefits ;) | 11:51 | |
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| lbt | rcg: yep - it has a lot of sweet spots; especially for new developers | 11:52 |
| Superpelican | As in Python 3 probably a lot of libraries are renamed added or removed | 11:52 |
| lbt | Superpelican: packaging *means* deciding where to put files produced by building a package | 11:53 |
| lbt | use 2.x as a hint | 11:53 |
| lbt | the build process will tell you about any you miss | 11:53 |
| Superpelican | lbt:So it should be a combination of trying to build & see what's missing + browsing through the untarred python-3.3.0.tgz archive? | 11:54 |
| w00t | once you have the basics (compilation) working, trying to build the package will error if files aren't packaged | 11:55 |
| lbt | no need for browsing as such | 11:55 |
| lbt | like I said - do a local build of python 2.x first. | 11:55 |
| Superpelican | rcg, lbt:Should I install spectacle in Mer SDK or just openSUSE? | 11:55 |
| lbt | then replace the tarball and make it configure+build | 11:55 |
| lbt | do all work in the SDK | 11:56 |
| Superpelican | But is spectacle even available in the Mer SDK repo's? | 11:56 |
| Superpelican | lbt:But why should I first try to do a local build of 2.x? | 11:56 |
| Superpelican | lbt:python 2.x for Mer is already done right? | 11:56 |
| rcg | Superpelican, well, i guess that depends on the way you use it.. as i do all the stuff i do on obs in my normal os i installed it directly in my common os | 11:57 |
| rcg | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=maliit-framework.yaml&package=maliit-framework&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared&rev=0363af95eb1ac25a113586649f1fd780 | 11:57 |
| rcg | but i think lbt has a valid point there as well :) | 11:57 |
| rcg | Superpelican, see the link above for an example of a project with subpackages | 11:57 |
| rcg | the syntax etc. should be straight forward | 11:57 |
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| Superpelican | rcg:Does python have subpackages? | 11:58 |
| lbt | yes | 11:58 |
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| lbt | see the yaml/spec for 2.x | 11:58 |
| lbt | (see the subtle hints I'm giving here?) | 11:58 |
| Superpelican | I've already locally run ./configure && make | 11:58 |
| Superpelican | for python3 | 11:58 |
| Superpelican | And got the interpreter running in Mer SDK | 11:58 |
| lbt | yep - that's kinda useful | 11:58 |
| Superpelican | Without patches, hacks etc. | 11:59 |
| rcg | Superpelican, packaging is not about compiling but putting the compilation results meaningfully into smaller packages | 11:59 |
| Superpelican | rcg:But why should I divide the Python interpreter in different packages? | 11:59 |
| w00t | the point is that you need to get the compilation done through packaging | 11:59 |
| rcg | but having something that compiles and runs afterwards is a good step towards this :) | 11:59 |
| w00t | you shouldn't be running configure and make yourself | 11:59 |
| Superpelican | Yes I know | 12:00 |
| Superpelican | rpmbuild should | 12:00 |
| rcg | Superpelican, well, it depends... some software has lots of additional packages like help files or libraries that are not frequently used.. people tend to split such things up into distinct packages | 12:00 |
| Superpelican | Currently I'm having problems with %setup macro part of %prep | 12:00 |
| rcg | this way "users" can choose what they want | 12:00 |
| Superpelican | But what's the point of having not working python interpreter? | 12:01 |
| Superpelican | I've never seen various "python3" packages in the openSUSE & Ubuntu packagemanager | 12:01 |
| Superpelican | Or is "python3" just a metapackage? | 12:02 |
| lbt | Superpelican: please. Go and build the 2.x package locally. Then read the spec. Then read the yaml. Then think... a lot ... about why it might be laid out like that. | 12:02 |
| lbt | after that you can do things to begin to move to 3.3 | 12:02 |
| lbt | you need a foundation to build upon | 12:02 |
| lbt | this will help you | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | lbt:With build you mean package in RPM? | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | Not just makeinstall? | 12:03 |
| lbt | I mean run "osc build Mer_Core_i486 i586" | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/python.git;a=blob;f=python.spec;h=00c1b9967ca08597c8eae3d40101d69d5a9ebabf;hb=HEAD | 12:03 |
| Superpelican | lbt:but osc isn't locally, right? | 12:04 |
| lbt | wrong :) | 12:04 |
| lbt | osc build is local | 12:04 |
| lbt | also I assume you found and read : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail (please get approval here before doing a gerrit push though) | 12:05 |
| Superpelican | lbt:Confused, when should I use osc utility, when SB2 and when just plain rpmbuild | 12:05 |
| lbt | always, for cross compiling, never | 12:05 |
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| lbt | actually : always, never: it's magically used for cross compiling, never | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | But why did Stskeeps keeps point me to Max RPM book then? | 12:06 |
| lbt | because it describes the spec file | 12:06 |
| Superpelican | K | 12:07 |
| w00t | *(sb2 and rpmbuild can be used, if you know what you're doing, in special cases) | 12:07 |
| lbt | rpmbuild *is* used internally | 12:07 |
| lbt | w00t: ain't OCD about accuracy a bitch :) | 12:07 |
| w00t | but osc is usually the right choice | 12:07 |
| w00t | lbt: sorry :P | 12:07 |
| Superpelican | lbt:Does osc also provide addinational information about what's happening at building time? | 12:08 |
| Superpelican | Does it have a sort of "debugger"? | 12:08 |
| * lbt curses zypper search .... wtf does it produce an ascii table? | 12:08 | |
| lbt | Superpelican: yes | 12:08 |
| Superpelican | Because osc commands seem a lot more userfriendly to me | 12:09 |
| lbt | do what I said above ... I was going to type more but lets wait until you get that far first | 12:09 |
| Superpelican | lbt:So I should first branch the Mer Python 2.x package? | 12:09 |
| Superpelican | lbt:And then do a local build with osc? | 12:09 |
| lbt | as per the Contribution in detail package | 12:09 |
| Superpelican | K | 12:09 |
| lbt | use i486 | 12:09 |
| lbt | slight risk of hitting Intel Atom'isms on i586 | 12:10 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: can we consolidate i486/i586? the only delta was glibc iirc and it could have runtime detection | 12:11 |
| lbt | qt did RT detection anyway according to Thiago | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | i486 is ultra generic and there would be a significant loss for not optimizing at atom type level | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | IMHO | 12:12 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade_: how is the eglfs module going? | 12:13 |
| lbt | OK | 12:13 |
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| Superpelican | lbt:why not i586 or i686? | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | Who uses i486 these days? | 12:45 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_architecture_naming | 12:45 |
| lbt | we're limited to the names we can use | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | lbt:But I can choose to use i586/i686 | 12:46 |
| Superpelican | So why choose i486 than? | 12:47 |
| lbt | do you have ssse3 hardware? | 12:47 |
| lbt | ie Intel Atom based? | 12:47 |
| lbt | the description column is important | 12:47 |
| Superpelican | Well I do have a netbook, but don't use it for development | 12:47 |
| lbt | right .. so ... i486 | 12:47 |
| Superpelican | But why is the naming so confusing? | 12:48 |
| lbt | *g* | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | ARMv6 is totally different from ARMv7 | 12:48 |
| lbt | history | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | But how can you tell osc the difference between ARMv6 and ARMv7 | 12:49 |
| Superpelican | I mean you can't mix those | 12:49 |
| Superpelican | There not compatible | 12:49 |
| lbt | the description column is important | 12:50 |
| Superpelican | But what's going to happen when real ARMv8 devices show up | 12:50 |
| lbt | the description column is important | 12:50 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: slowly, but have playground now, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Avgrade%3AraspPiQt5Plugin | 12:50 |
| Superpelican | K, will read that first in that case | 12:50 |
| lbt | the rest are system naming conventions and are just letters | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade_: cool | 12:50 |
| * lbt -> kitchen ... bbiab | 12:51 | |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: so we have a -rpi directory in the Qt5 source populated with a copy of eglfs for now, so I could test the packaging | 12:52 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: so next step is to include the Pi gfx adaptation package and hack in the hooks | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | ye? | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | p | 12:54 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: first bit took me longer than expected but learning loads | 12:55 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: handling two source tar files in packaging etc | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | two? | 12:56 |
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| Stskeeps | you mean two specs | 12:56 |
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| Superpelican | lbt:Is it also possible to only branch python.git instead of the whole Mer repo? | 12:57 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: I have Qt5 source tar and my plugin tar | 12:57 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: two specs as well | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: yes | 13:00 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:OSC is complaining after I logged in that my home dir or any other dir "is not an osc project dir or working copy" | 13:03 |
| Superpelican | I've no idea how to fix it | 13:03 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Looks like there's a bug in OSC | 13:11 |
| situ | Stskeeps: which repository contains blts-alsa-core ? | 13:12 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Running "osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com" and entering an username and password results in: http://pastebin.com/exqtf5KM | 13:14 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: Looks like some OSC bug | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | situ, mer:qa:tests:testing | 13:14 |
| situ | ohh the package is called blts-alsa-core-tests | 13:14 |
| dm8tbr | Superpelican: might need to fix your oscrc manually | 13:14 |
| Superpelican | Does OSC keep my password and username in plain text?! :0 | 13:21 |
| Superpelican | That must be a bug | 13:22 |
| Superpelican | dm8tbr:And how I'm supposed to fix my oscrc? | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a login/password to the meego community obs? | 13:24 |
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| Superpelican | no | 13:24 |
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| Stskeeps | that's probably a good start | 13:24 |
| Superpelican | I was just trying to do a local build with osc | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | get a meego.com login and tell lbt the username | 13:24 |
| dm8tbr | there is a way to store the pw obfuscated | 13:25 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:But for how long is meego.com going to exist? | 13:25 |
| dm8tbr | but you can also disable storing and enter it each and every time | 13:25 |
| dm8tbr | Superpelican: that's where COBS lives right now, so you need that account. | 13:26 |
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| Superpelican | lbt:my meego.com username = superpelican | 13:55 |
| lbt | done ... have fun :) | 13:55 |
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| Superpelican | lbt: But Stskeeps told me I should give you my username and that you would then fix: http://pastebin.com/exqtf5KM | 13:56 |
| Superpelican | I get that error on pastebin every time I try to login into obs/osc | 13:57 |
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| Superpelican | It all boils down to "ValueError: invalid interpolation syntax in '<mypassword>' at position 9" | 14:00 |
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| lbt | *g* | 14:08 |
| lbt | osc bug I bet - does your passwd have a % in it? | 14:08 |
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| Superpelican | lbt: yes | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | lbt: but I just "fixed" it | 14:11 |
| Superpelican | lbt:There was an if statement in the .py | 14:11 |
| lbt | please report a bug for that, with a patch if you have one | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | lbt:I just replaced the 'contents' of the statement with 'pass' | 14:12 |
| lbt | it should go upstream to suse too | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | lbt:I hope this "fix" keeps working | 14:12 |
| Superpelican | And that I don't get trouble with it later on :( | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | Because that statement probably was there for a reason | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | Or it was just outdated | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | And everybody forgot to remove it | 14:13 |
| Superpelican | lbt:*sigh, osc still complains: "Error: '/home/jurre/rpmbuild/SPECS' is not an osc project dir or working copy" | 14:15 |
| lbt | the instructions on the wiki are pretty clear ... they don't mention rpmbuild/SPECS | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | lbt:K, will check wiki.merproject.org again in that case, but which page? | 14:16 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail | 14:16 |
| Superpelican | lbt:Yes but was first trying to do a local build | 14:18 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Build | 14:18 |
| Superpelican | And besides it doesn't matter which dir I cd to it keeps complaining | 14:18 |
| lbt | not if you follow the instructions it doesn't | 14:18 |
| lbt | that's why we have them you know | 14:18 |
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| * Bostik apparently just entered the Twilight Zone | 14:21 | |
| Superpelican | lbt:Tried all the commands that are in the #build section but it keeps complaining about "not an osc project dir or working copy" | 14:21 |
| lbt | Superpelican: seriously? | 14:21 |
| Superpelican | lbt: yes | 14:21 |
| lbt | read the instructions ... all of them, not a random subset. | 14:21 |
| lbt | Bostik: uh huh... | 14:22 |
| Superpelican | lbt:But all the instructions are about git and branching code | 14:23 |
| Bostik | lbt: yep, I have two distinct "wtf" errors and they both look like they're independent | 14:23 |
| lbt | Superpelican: you say that like I didn't write them and don't know that... | 14:23 |
| lbt | Bostik: we got hit by a cosmic ray yesterday - beat that for wtf... | 14:24 |
| Bostik | lbt: did anyone at the company win the lottery too? | 14:24 |
| lbt | Bostik: I think fate is working with 'or' | 14:24 |
| Superpelican | lbt:But I just don't understand what branching and git has to do with doing a local .spec build. I'm not trying to offend anyone | 14:24 |
| lbt | Superpelican: some stuff you can just follow and undertand later | 14:25 |
| Superpelican | lbt:So you mean that copying a branch automatically creates a dir structure suitable for use by osc? | 14:26 |
| Bostik | lbt: in x86 build; "g++ -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--no-keep-memory [....] -o libQtWebKit.so.5.0.0 [...]" -> usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Memory exhausted | 14:26 |
| Bostik | and that's the easy one | 14:26 |
| lbt | Superpelican: I said, way back, that this is a very complex area and you're jumping in at the deep end. This is what happens when you do that :) OTOH you learn a lot very quickly *IF* you search and solve (most of) your own problems | 14:27 |
| lbt | Bostik: it does use insane amounts of RAM | 14:27 |
| lbt | how much swap do you have? | 14:27 |
| Bostik | lbt: that was from COBS :) | 14:28 |
| lbt | interesting | 14:28 |
| lbt | what worker? | 14:28 |
| Bostik | you can run away screaming now if you want to | 14:28 |
| lbt | it may not have been picked up for pubworker4 | 14:29 |
| Bostik | pubworker04 according to log | 14:29 |
| lbt | ouch | 14:29 |
| Bostik | let me repeat myself | 14:29 |
| Bostik | you can run away screaming now if you want to | 14:29 |
| * lbt runs away screaming.... | 14:29 | |
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| billmania | Stskeeps: Confirmed that the microSD I used with MeeGo on my N900 yesterday is only Class 2. That explains the poor performance. | 14:32 |
| billmania | I don't have a Class 10 4GB for Nemo so I can't do that experiment yet. | 14:32 |
| lbt | Bostik: which Mer ? | 14:32 |
| lbt | mmm nm ... toolchain was released | 14:33 |
| billmania | I also see that I can try Nemo with my Pandaboard, which I will try after the N900. | 14:33 |
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| lbt | Bostik: try again | 14:39 |
| lbt | it was sitting at 8Gb RAM 12Gb tmpfs and 4Gb swap on a machine with 16Gb RAM | 14:39 |
| lbt | so I've upped swap to 8Gb | 14:40 |
| lbt | swap is in tmpfs | 14:40 |
| lbt | tmpfs is backed by real swap | 14:40 |
| lbt | it's fiddly | 14:40 |
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| Bostik | oookay, let's try again | 14:50 |
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| Stskeeps | random question to everyone: what's the cheapest android phone you know / lowest spec? | 15:11 |
| faenil | also chinese phones, or common phones? | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | ideally ones that you know you can hack / have kernel source for | 15:12 |
| faenil | oh...mm | 15:12 |
| Bostik | low-end ZTE devices come to mind, as they at least provide the sources without much griping | 15:12 |
| faenil | I'd say ZTE Blade | 15:14 |
| situ | I would say the cheapest chinese phones won't have a name on it ;) | 15:21 |
| faenil | :D | 15:22 |
| * Stskeeps is looking for good phones for lowend work, so | 15:25 | |
| Stskeeps | always interesting to see how your system behaves under constraint | 15:25 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, +100 | 15:26 |
| vgrade_ | T-Mobile Pulse , Orange SanFransisco | 15:31 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: good man | 15:32 |
| CosmoHill | it sucks when people make software and they say it works fine but it would work for them, they have 2000 cores and a gillian bytes of RAM | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. mobile is a shock for most platforms | 15:33 |
| CosmoHill | Train Sim 2012 ran like a dog with four broken legs on most people's computers | 15:34 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: I have booted both with custom kernel and userspace in the past | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade_: cool | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | still have it out of curiousity? | 15:34 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: have both | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | kernel version? | 15:35 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: around .32 I think. Been ages since I did anything on them | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:37 |
| Bostik | lbt: my build's been "scheduling" for quite some time, do you need to kick the scheduler after a host config tweak? | 15:39 |
| lbt | I'll look | 15:39 |
| lbt | dispatcher seemed to have lost it - it's building now | 15:41 |
| lbt | it=worker4 | 15:41 |
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| Bostik | right, looks like something I've seen with earlier obs versions too | 15:43 |
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| iekku | hmmm, i might have another meeting tomorrow same time than bug triage | 15:59 |
| iekku | can someone chair meeting if that happens? | 15:59 |
| iekku | lbt, Stskeeps? | 16:01 |
| lbt | yep | 16:01 |
| iekku | thanks | 16:02 |
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| situ | Anyone following http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ ? | 16:10 |
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| faenil | just read tweets about it :) | 16:14 |
| faenil | starting soon? | 16:14 |
| situ | He is going up. | 16:15 |
| slow | situ: me | 16:17 |
| slow | it is rising fast | 16:17 |
| slow | 15km in 45min | 16:17 |
| faenil | yeah read "the mission" and everything is clear now :) thanks for the link :) | 16:19 |
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| iekku | hmmmm, do you belive he jumps this time? | 16:23 |
| ka6sox | yes | 16:24 |
| situ | I think so. | 16:25 |
| faenil | has he already tried? | 16:27 |
| iekku | my "wife" reported at phone about that on tue when i was walking home... :D | 16:27 |
| iekku | i think they never got him to the air earlier | 16:27 |
| faenil | :) | 16:29 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: snapshot please | 16:54 |
| faenil | do you hear the commentary on redbull's live? | 16:56 |
| faenil | mine says "Please stand by" "Starting soon" | 16:57 |
| faenil | I though that was ok! :( | 16:57 |
| faenil | thought | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: let's make it 0.20121018.0.1 | 16:57 |
| situ | Yeah.. I can. | 16:59 |
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| faenil | situ, works on my gf' notebook...wonder what's going on on mine instead...-.- | 17:00 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: I get "have choice for libGLESv2.so.2 needed by qt5-qtgui: gfx-rpi-libGLESv2 mesa-llvmpipe-libGLESv2" when I introduce gfx-rpi into the OBS project. How can I get it to use gfx-rpi or stop mesa version? | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade_: Prefer: gfx-rpi-libGLESv2 | 17:17 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK | 17:17 |
| Stskeeps | i guess | 17:17 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: yea I tried that, let me try again | 17:20 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade_: in prjconf | 17:20 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: no. I'll try in projconf | 17:21 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: did the trick | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | good | 17:57 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: now need to round up the bcm/vcos headers/libs | 17:58 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: ah, hiding in /target/usr/include/ not /usr/include | 18:04 |
| lbt | FYI http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ about to jump | 18:04 |
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| vgrade_ | mad man | 18:13 |
| lbt | "I need directions" :) | 18:14 |
| lbt | "down" | 18:14 |
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| Bostik | lbt: I think I'm probably hitting the 32-bit limit for linker's memory addressing | 18:18 |
| Bostik | "yow" | 18:18 |
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| lbt | :/ | 18:18 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: do you have -Wl,no-keep-memory? | 18:21 |
| lbt | he does | 18:21 |
| lbt | I upped the worker to have more swap too | 18:22 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | build log = ? | 18:23 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=i586&package=qtwebkit&project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1&repository=Mer_Core_i586 | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/qtwebkit.git;a=blob;f=03_hide_std_symbols.diff;h=1e68b06a04a95206917e50dad934a3cb5298767d;hb=HEAD | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | symbols filter may be useful? | 18:28 |
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| beford | hey Stskeeps. I compiled libhybris on the pi but I was unable to run the test_ginger as it claimed the .so was an invalid elf file. do you know if the test.so is armv7? pi supports only armv6 | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | it probably is yes | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | but there's no android gpu libs for r-pi yet is there? | 18:37 |
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| beford | no, just wanted to check loading the example test library | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's armv7 | 18:38 |
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| Bostik | aaahhhh, so that's what it's for | 18:43 |
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| shmerl | Hi! | 18:50 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: that's it for me this weekend. Thanks for the help as always | 18:50 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: cristi_ kulve zuh https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#Qt5_Platform_Plugin | 18:50 |
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| shmerl | Should I add a bug to Mer bugzilla to add opus and vp8 codecs and gstreamer plugins? They are be used in WebRTC, and in Jingle too, so they should be important for Mer. I'm surprised Jolla didn't pay attention to it. | 18:53 |
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| shmerl | Also, how will H.264 support work for example? I.e. will it require a separate repository, to avoid patent issues? | 18:55 |
| shmerl | Some Jingle clients use H.264, though VP8 should be becoming more widespread now. | 18:56 |
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| shmerl | I think libgstvpx.so should be in the gst-plugins-good. | 19:06 |
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| shmerl | And opus probably in gst-plugins-bad. | 19:08 |
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| lbt | w00t: any suggestion where qmlplugindump is? | 19:21 |
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| kulve | vgrade_: could you try using the pkgconfig -files to "resolve the header files/libs paths"? The vcos_platform_types.h is in /usr/include/interface/vcos/pthreads/ that BCM examples add explicitly to include paths. That is also added by the egl.pc (although the pkgconfig files are not really tested) | 19:43 |
| kulve | vgrade_: using the pkgconfig files would be good testing and maybe avoid some unneeded hardcoded paths elsewhere | 19:44 |
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| vgrade_ | kulve: thanks, the existing qmake .pro file for raspPi expects things still in /opt/vc but I'll have a look at the pc files | 20:25 |
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| vgrade_ | kulve: I've not used those before and need to see how they fit in with qmake .pro | 20:27 |
| vgrade_ | kulve: have you used .pc files within a qmake .pro? | 20:30 |
| vgrade_ | kulve: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Using_pkg-config_with_qmake helps | 20:32 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: snapshot done, no space or cpio errors | 20:38 |
| lbt | Sage_: phaeron any objections to an import to cobs now? | 20:38 |
| phaeron | none from me | 20:39 |
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| lbt | ok .. here we go then | 20:45 |
| lbt | oh yeah - mips too | 20:50 |
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| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/lfs-qdb/?id=181 | 21:13 |
| CosmoHill | oops, wrong tab | 21:13 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 21:33 |
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