Saturday, 2012-10-13

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* ljp thinks n900 needed a bigger screen02:09
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Skrywould have been nice02:35
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deztructormorning :)05:28
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Stskeepsmorn06:31
ljphey Stskeeps06:37
* Stskeeps 's friday was just completely lost.. woke up at 4am, plane at 8am, plane hung over warsaw airport for 1 1/2 hours, divert to different airport, refuel, return at 2-3pm and then collapse on sofa06:39
Stskeeps:P06:39
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ljphope it was a productive trip06:59
Stskeepsit was, very - except very exhausting06:59
Stskeeps3-4am late nights each night06:59
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ljpwork or partying?07:03
Stskeepswork, i've had a max of 3 ciders07:03
ljpthats crazy07:05
Stskeepshehe, a bit but look forward to seeing the results :)07:05
Stskeepspushing the envelope is always nice when it manages to impress oneself too07:06
Stskeepsljp: any news on blog posts surrounding the cool stuff you can do with qtsensors, btw?07:17
Stskeepsit's a bit my impression it's a bit of a un-PR'ed area :)07:17
ljpI've been thinking about doing one, now that I can demonstrate some gestures on a real device (again)07:18
Stskeeps:nod:07:18
Stskeepswere you using n900 or n9, btw?07:18
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ljpI had some video already done some time ago for some internal thing.. but...07:18
ljpn90007:18
ljpsuppose it would look better on the n9, but I haven't put mer on it yet07:19
Stskeepsok07:19
ljpone thing though. animations seem to only play first time only, I think07:19
ljpon my shakeit example app07:20
Stskeepsbug in qt?07:20
ljpcould be something in qt4.8 ya07:20
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ljpbut I have been thinking instead of some example app that just has moving icons, to do some simple app, like a recipe app that demonstrates some gestures07:36
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iekkumorning08:30
situMorning all08:30
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situStskeeps: around ?08:31
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lbtmorning09:28
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lbtw00t: thanks for pointing out the pc kernel :)10:24
w00tnp10:25
lbtOK ... we have a new "rolling" SDK release10:25
lbtwhich is our current "next"10:25
lbtnow I need to fix mer-kickstarter to allow versions to be external to the yaml and with all the work Sage_ has done I think we'll have a good kickstart solution in the SDK too10:27
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SuperpelicanCurrently reading Max RPM book and other websites about creating .spec files10:53
SuperpelicanThis is my python3.spec file currently: http://pastebin.com/fYE8xH6E10:53
SuperpelicanThinking of using parts of the python3.spec file of openSUSE 12.210:53
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Stskeepslooks like a good start10:54
Stskeepsdon't bother with BuildArch: armv7hl though10:54
Superpelicanhttps://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=python3.spec&package=python3&project=openSUSE%3A12.2&rev=167c7a945f420ea71f438f23422c17d110:55
Superpelicanpython3.spec of the openSUSE project10:55
SuperpelicanStskeeps: why no buildarch?10:56
SuperpelicanStskeeps: I'm also reading: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/making-rpms-part-1-the-spec-file-header/503353810:56
SuperpelicanStskeeps: And of course part 2: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/making-rpms-part-2-preparing-and-compiling/503354310:57
SuperpelicanStskeeps: And so on with part 3 and 410:57
StskeepsSuperpelican: buildarch limits where you build it10:57
Stskeepsleaving it out means you can build on everything10:57
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cristiStskeeps: how did you built the qt5 beta1 qtbase?11:00
Stskeepscristi: obs?11:00
Stskeepsit's all in gitweb11:00
cristiI am getting errors due to missing dbus stuff11:01
Stskeepswhat errors?11:01
cristibuilding it locally with some minor rasPi patches11:01
cristidbus.cpp:43:23: fatal error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory11:01
Stskeepshttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/qtbase.git;a=blob;f=qtbase.spec;h=6b2bf648a66bd70115f9c4b514031015cad17f88;hb=HEAD11:01
cristiI might need to add some more build requirements...11:01
Stskeepsmake sure those build deps are installed?11:01
cristiI use the latest stuff from there11:04
cristithis is what I did on top of that http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?65093&download11:05
Stskeepsshould pull in the right deps11:06
cristicould it be that those deps are not built for armv6l?11:06
Stskeepsshould be11:07
Stskeepsverify dbus-devel gets installed?11:07
cristiwell, I do have /var/tmp/build-root/target/usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h11:11
cristihow could I chroot to the ARM sysroot to make sure?11:12
cristianyway, I must go now...11:13
Stskeepshmmm11:13
Stskeepsok11:13
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Should I try to build Python 3 with my current .spec now?11:14
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Or should I first apply patches from openSUSE?11:14
SuperpelicanStskeeps: openSUSE's python3.spec also shows some "BuildRequires"11:14
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Should I add those to my .spec too?11:15
Stskeepsprobably, but work iteratively11:15
SuperpelicanStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/qRp4p9Nw11:15
Superpelicanfrom openSUSE python3.spec11:15
SuperpelicanStskeeps: I think I now also understand what a Buildroot is11:16
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Where should I build the first time?11:17
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Outside Mer SDK, just in Mer SDK without sb2 or in Mer SDK in SB2?11:18
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Stskeepslbt: ping12:23
Stskeepslbt: something wrong with zathras?12:23
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Stskeepsdebug1: Offering RSA public key: .ssh/id_rsa_merproject12:29
Stskeepsdebug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 27912:29
Stskeepsand then nothing12:30
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Stskeepsnever mind12:34
Stskeepsssh ask agent is being retarded12:34
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lbt:)12:38
Stskeeps /dev/mapper/vg0-obs_cache     50G   48G     0 100% /var/cache/obs/cache12:42
Stskeepsthat doesn't look good..12:42
lbtwhich phost12:43
Stskeepsphost712:43
Stskeepsis there supposed to be a limit on cache size?12:44
lbt50G12:44
Stskeepsok, let's make it 40?12:44
Stskeepsas the partition is 5012:44
lbtjust extended the LV and fs12:45
Stskeepsok12:45
lbt75G12:45
lbt /dev/mapper/vg0-obs_cache     74G   48G   23G  69% /var/cache/obs/cache12:45
lbtthanks for noticing12:45
Stskeepssame situation on phost612:46
Stskeepsso i assume it's same issue on all phosts?12:46
Stskeepsie, workers12:46
Stskeepswell i noticed because qt failed to build12:46
Stskeepslet me know when i can kick qt to build again :P12:48
lbtdone 6 912:48
Stskeepsand 10?12:48
lbt...12:48
Stskeepsphost10, 6 and 7 should be the CI obs workers12:49
lbtsometimes parallel ssh would be nice12:49
lbtdone12:49
Stskeepsok12:49
lbtI'm looking at how proxy works on Mer12:50
lbtand setting up a local wpad service12:50
lbtsilly things like not allocating hostname FQDN means it can't find wpad server12:50
Stskeepslooks like i need to clean out the cache as it's corrupt12:50
lbtnot sure if that's my dhcp or connman12:50
Stskeepsany objections to me doing that?12:51
lbtno12:51
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vgrade_\o12:55
Stskeepsgrr, still fetching sources, source verification fails: 76f342d2281e4da6db0a888dabc8eae3 != 5097135fb649f3cdfb37c41dda32ee6b12:56
StskeepsDeep recursion on subroutine "BSXPath::expr" at /usr/lib/obs/server//BSXPath.pm line 375.12:58
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SuperpelicanStskeeps:Where should I try to build Python 3, outside Mer SDK chroot (just with openSUSE), inside Mer SDK or inside Mer SDK in SB2?13:01
Stskeepsinside mer sdk or inside mer sdk in sb213:01
SuperpelicanStskeeps: ok13:01
lbtsb2 is only arm atm13:02
Stskeepslbt: what permissions does your logs have for obs logs?13:02
vgrade_Stskeeps: I'm looking at the Pi qt5 plugin but am stuck. I've branched qt5base, built locally with osc build. Now I want to hack so I osc chroot but once there I don't have access to qmake. I've looked at adding extrapkgs=qt5-qmake in my .oscrc but get nothing provides error13:02
SuperpelicanStskeeps:But Mer SDK is not a fullblown linux distro, right?13:03
lbtroot 64413:03
SuperpelicanStskeeps:So won't Python 3 miss dependencies?13:03
lbton be13:03
StskeepsSuperpelican: it mgiht but you can install them13:04
Stskeepsvgrade_: moment13:05
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SuperpelicanStskeeps: But aren't the Mer SDK repo's quite limited in quantity?13:06
vgrade_Stskeeps: np13:06
StskeepsSuperpelican: it has entire mer core in it13:07
Stskeepsso not really13:07
SuperpelicanStskeeps: ok, thx13:07
SuperpelicanStskeeps:There is currently one problem I'm facing: what should I add to the %files part in my python3.spec?13:08
SuperpelicanStskeeps: I've no idea13:08
SuperpelicanMax RPM says that you should manually read the makefile13:08
SuperpelicanBut the makefile is 1200 lines!13:08
SuperpelicanAnd I've no idea where to look13:08
StskeepsSuperpelican: usually i add %files post when compile and make install works13:09
SuperpelicanI see filenames of objects and libraries all over the place in the makefile13:09
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SuperpelicanStskeeps:So adding files to %files isn't necessary?13:09
Stskeepsit is, but not at first tryy13:09
Stskeepsyou get errors on 'unpackaged fiels'13:09
Stskeepsand you can use this13:09
SuperpelicanStskeeps: you mean "those"?13:10
Stskeepsyeah13:10
SuperpelicanStskeeps: K, then I will now try to run "rpm -b" :D13:11
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Stskeepsvgrade_: walk me through the steps needed for qt5 plugin13:16
Stskeepslbt: have you ever seen the source verification error?13:16
Stskeepslbt: i'm bordering on 'i need help' at the moment13:16
Stskeeps:P13:16
lbtok - what are you looking at?13:16
Stskeepsso, in all my projects, source verification fails for qt , on the worker13:17
lbturl?13:17
Stskeepshttps://build.ci.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=qt&project=Core%3Ai586&repository=Core_i58613:17
Stskeepsi've made a branch from fakeobs and still getting same error13:17
lbtOK13:17
Stskeepsthe problem is just, i haven't touched qt13:17
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StskeepsMDS's mappingscache also says srcmd5 is 5097135fb649f3cdfb37c41dda32ee6b13:19
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lbtstopped obsworker on 7/1013:27
lbtpuppet may restart them :/13:27
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Stskeepsok13:27
lbtyou have screen on 6 - any clues?13:27
Stskeepsi wonder of the remote obs cache got screwed13:28
Stskeepsor wtf's going on..13:28
Stskeepsi don't see any source pulls so13:28
Stskeepson fakeobs13:28
lbtdid you restart worker?13:28
Stskeepsyes, didn't help13:28
lbtstop worker on 6  and I'll start iton 1013:30
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Stskeepsstopped13:31
lbttriggered rebuild13:31
lbtmmm stuck in scheduled now13:32
StskeepsJob can not be assigned on i586 due to lack of powerhosts: Core:i586::Core_i586::qt-021c3963dccda35dcf73c2b62333dea013:33
Stskeepschanged13:34
Stskeepsrestarting dispatcher13:34
lbtI didn't know we used them :)13:34
Stskeeps.. ish13:34
lbtok - same issue on 1013:34
Stskeepsso the question is where it happens13:36
Stskeepsfakeobs, obs be, etc13:36
Stskeepscarsten@monster:~/e/fakeobs:Core:i586/home:Admin:branches:fakeobs:Core:i486/qt$ cat _link13:36
Stskeeps<link project="fakeobs:Core:i486" baserev="5097135fb649f3cdfb37c41dda32ee6b">13:37
Stskeepstoo13:37
lbtjust looking at bs_worker13:37
lbtstale job?13:37
Stskeepsnot impossible13:38
Stskeepsfeel free to clean out13:38
lbtit's empty13:39
Stskeepsok13:39
lbtso checking getsources() in bs_worker13:40
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lbthttps://gist.github.com/388468013:45
* Stskeeps looks13:46
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Stskeeps                        <entry md5="3c1146ddf56247e16782f96910a8423b" name="qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.2.tar.gz"/>13:48
Stskeepsrest of files ok13:48
faenilhave Mer updated to 4.8.3?13:48
faenilhas*13:49
Stskeepslbt: http://pastie.org/505236913:49
Stskeepsfakeobs@be:~/release-tools/qt-1> curl http://localhost:8001/public/source/Core:i586/qt/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.2.tar.gz | md5sum13:49
lbtcheck MDS cache?13:49
Stskeeps  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current13:50
Stskeeps                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed13:50
Stskeeps100  228M  100  228M    0     0  49.8M      0  0:00:04  0:00:04 --:--:-- 49.8M13:50
Stskeeps3c1146ddf56247e16782f96910a8423b  -13:50
Stskeepsas well13:50
lbthmm13:50
Stskeepsso that kinda moves things to be i would guess13:50
lbtremoving debug lines now anyhow13:51
lbtmmm13:51
lbtnah, leave them13:51
Stskeepsbe:/srv/obs/sources/qt # md5sum 3c1146ddf56247e16782f96910a8423b-qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.2.tar.gz13:51
Stskeeps354c1b950aadba21fb204bba833643fd  3c1146ddf56247e16782f96910a8423b-qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.2.tar.gz13:51
Stskeepsculprit?13:51
lbtyes - just wondering where it's coming from13:51
lbtthis is a cpio stream13:51
lbtI think13:52
Stskeepssources are sent individually13:52
Stskeepsbut the md5sum of filename should be == to md5sum of content13:52
lbt'receiver' => \&BSHTTP::cpio_receiver,13:52
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Stskeepslooks like genuine data corruption for once13:54
Stskeepslength is correct13:54
Stskeepstar: A lone zero block at 87938813:54
lbthmm13:55
lbtloads of disk13:55
lbtfsck ?13:55
Stskeepsyeah, let's take be offline and do a fsck?13:55
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Stskeepsyou can kill fakeobs too13:58
lbt /dev/vdd: clean, 2169573/13107200 files, 27507373/52428800 blocks14:00
lbtforcing a full check14:01
lbtso the solution is to re-upload that file I guess14:02
lbtor replace it directly in source dir with a good copy14:02
lbtlatter is easier :)14:02
Stskeepsyes14:03
Stskeepsit just wonders me why now14:03
Stskeepstimestamp is jul 2814:03
lbtsave it and do a diff maybe14:04
Stskeepsmight be good to check underlying lvm too14:04
lbtdoes mds need restarting ?14:08
lbtie do you use this local one?14:09
Stskeepsyes14:09
Stskeepsstart it before rest of obs14:09
lbttoo late14:09
Stskeepsok14:09
Stskeepscheck underlying lvm / raid and if that looks ok, i'll replace the file14:09
lbtOK I was just doing that bit14:09
lbtnothing wrong in the lower layers - there's nothing really like fsck for LVM14:14
Stskeepsok14:14
Stskeepsso, solar flare?14:14
lbtsave the file and diff14:14
lbtif it's a single bit then yes14:14
lbtif it's more than that then we look more closely at it and maybe script an md5sum verify14:15
Stskeepsok, how would we diff on binary level, hex?14:15
Stskeepsdump14:15
* Stskeeps does that..14:16
lbtcmp iirc14:17
Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/505250314:21
Stskeepsi think this may be a factual case of a bit switch14:22
lbtyay ... we found a cosmic ray in germany!14:22
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lbtright, restart obs stuff now then14:27
Stskeepsi'll replace the file then14:27
Stskeepsmade a copy14:27
lbtI'll wait14:27
CosmoHillmy trackpad doesn't work when my laptop is charging...14:27
Stskeepslbt: hm?14:27
lbtsay when you've replaced it and I'll restart then14:27
lbtalthough it won't pull until we trigger I guess14:28
Stskeepsok14:28
Stskeepsok, restart pleasse14:29
lbtwatching .. there may be a 'stop' in the scheduler instruction queue14:29
Stskeepsok14:29
lbt"cold start, scanning all projects"  ?14:30
situWhen I try to run tests from testrunner-lite, tests keep failing and  I get this message in logs : logger: invalid option -- 'e'14:30
lbtI did a nice shutdown!14:30
Stskeepslbt: yay obs14:30
Stskeepslbt: it's fine anyway, i'm going out for the evening14:30
Stskeepstori amos concert14:30
lbtnice :)14:31
lbtI'm off to tango again of course14:31
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lbtdid I tell you there was a live "Otros Aires" concert when I was in Aix-les-bains ?14:31
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lbtthey're a really good electro-tango band14:32
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Stskeepsnop14:32
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vgrade_14:44
vgrade_Stskeeps: qmake now in chroot14:44
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vgrade_sebas: \o14:56
Stskeepsvgrade_: good14:56
Stskeepsvgrade_: should be possible to qmake alone in the subdir14:56
sebasvgrade_: hey :)14:57
vgrade_Stskeeps: I needed qtgui-devel , but once I added that back I can qmake and make in the platform pluging dir14:57
Stskeepscool14:58
vgrade_sebas: how's the PA3 release going14:58
vgrade_Stskeeps: just adding a new directory now to hold the pi plugin14:58
vgrade_Stskeeps: no editor available in chroot14:59
Stskeepsadd vim15:00
vgrade_Stskeeps: into the extrapkgs on oscrc15:00
Stskeepsyes15:00
vgrade_Stskeeps: thanks15:01
sebasvgrade_: hopefully out monday early15:01
sebaslots of last minute stuff to be fixed15:01
vgrade_sebas: yea, been watching15:02
vgrade_sebas: I've been very busy on day job for the last couple of months15:02
sebasbrrr, life happens ;)15:02
vgrade_sebas: today is the first day in ages I've been able to do Mer stuff15:03
sebasvgrade_: happy weekend then =)15:04
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vgrade_sebas: Indeed/ I saw the email to the acive list from aseigo15:05
* sebas is cleaning up the house, have friends coming over tonight15:05
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vgrade_sebas: good words about Mer there.15:06
sebashappy users :)15:07
mdfesebas: hi, whats stuff needs to be fixed in last minute?15:07
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vgrade_mdfe: |o15:07
mdfevgrade_: hi15:08
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sebasmdfe: well, all of last week's patches :)15:08
mdfeyou are talking about the tarballs or release image?15:08
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drunnHi people. Just jumping into this nice little world, and planning on buying some mobile phone to use for development on mer, nemo, tizen. Since money is tight, I was thinking of Nokia N9. Am I on the right path?15:09
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mdfesebas: I'm just asking because notmart asks me to build the release image tomorrow morning15:10
Stskeepsdrunn, n9 is quite good for hacking but also n90015:12
Stskeepstizen is a bit complex in that regard15:12
drunnN900 better then? But n9 has way better hardware... What kind of restrictions could I expect with n9, anyway?15:13
drunnAnd so, tizen is possible on n900, not on n9?15:14
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Stskeepstizen really hasn't been ported to n9 or n900, only seen it run sanely on the tizen development device15:18
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Stskeepsdrunn, so what do you hope to do?15:19
drunnApp develompent to begin with. Then after some months go deeper into platform develpment.15:23
drunnYou think I could I go ahead with the n9 then, people?15:23
drunnI mean onto the platform development bit (first part seems feasible already with the n9).15:24
Stskeepsyep, i use it myself for development15:24
drunnDevelopment of which kind?15:25
drunnOh sorry. Of course: mer.15:25
drunnPlatform.15:25
Stskeepsmer, nemo, own innovative stuff, etc15:25
Stskeepsand worrst case scenario it's a nice phone15:26
drunnCool cool cool. Decision is made.15:26
Stskeepsexcept people confuse it with lumia 800 ;)15:26
drunnIt is. Only problem: it doesn't seem to do NFC secure payments. Or does it? I've searched, but all accounts were negative. Am I missing something? Is there SWP and all the stuff on board?15:27
Stskeepscorrect, no nfc secure payments15:27
drunnNever ever?15:27
Stskeepsmeego devices at nokia is pretty shut down :/15:28
drunnSorry... you mean...?15:28
Stskeepsas in there wont be official updates for n9 and i dont think nfc was implemented for the open platform hardware adaptations15:28
drunnOh... there won't be updates, you mean.15:29
Stskeepsin mer we however work to make it easier to put mer on android based hw15:29
Stskeepsreusing android hw adaptations15:29
drunnMy question actually was, whether the hardware needed for payments is in place on not. I guess it is not for sure?15:30
Stskeepsi don't know, sadly15:30
drunnWell... One really exciting thing is multibooting on n9. Harmattan, nitdroid and mer... Amazing. Have you tried that?15:32
Stskeepsyeah, but on n9, but i prefer dual boot15:33
drunnAFAIK, it works on n9, n900, n950.15:33
drunnAnyway. I'll get it and come back to you all. Thanks for your help man.15:34
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drunnOh! I forgot: you can run tizen apps on meego with tizmee. Would tizmee work on mer?15:36
Stskeepsyep, probably15:37
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situStskeeps: did you hear about Anssi Vanjoki going to be new CEO of Vertu ?15:52
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Stskeepsyes, good for him15:53
situand they're gonna switch to Android.15:53
Stskeepsthat's a rumour though15:53
situYeah.15:54
Stskeepsmost of us wouldnt buy a vertu anyway15:54
situTrue :P15:54
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SuperpelicanNever heard of Vertu15:56
SuperpelicanJust googled it15:56
SuperpelicanAnd IMHO Vertu phones look awful!15:56
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SuperpelicanI couldn't care less if they switch to Android15:57
SuperpelicanOr switch to whatever15:57
SuperpelicanWhat OS do Vertu phones currently run on?15:58
SuperpelicanSymbian?15:58
SuperpelicanOr some homemade RTOS-kernel based OS?15:58
situSymbian.15:58
SuperpelicanI'm glad that they don't switch to a Mer based OS, IMO that would spoil the name of Mer ;P15:59
vgrade_Stskeeps: running make sub-qtplatformplugin-rpi within the chroot creates my libplatformplugin-rpi.so but fails writing it into /usr/lib/qt5/plugins/platforms as im not root i guess16:02
SuperpelicanStskeeps: Running "sudo rpm -b python3.spec" results in rpm saying "-b: unknown option"16:04
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SuperpelicanRunning "rpm --help" doesn't show any options related to building packages!16:08
SuperpelicanStskeeps: I also install rpm-devel which didn't change anything16:09
vgrade_Superpelican: rpmbuild not rpm16:10
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Superpelicanvgrade:Was just googling and found a recent Fedora help page16:11
Superpelicanvgrade_:seems like the Max RPM book is outdated!16:11
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Superpelicanvgrade_, Stskeeps:Running "rpmbuild -b python3.spec" results in "bash:rpmbuild: command not found"16:16
Superpelicanvgrade_, Stskeeps:Trying to install rpmbuild with "sudo zypper in rpmbuild" results in zypper saying there is no provider for rpmbuild16:16
vgrade_Superpelican: in mer sdk?16:17
SuperpelicanOh wait, it's "rpm-build"16:18
SuperpelicanYes in Mer SDK16:18
SuperpelicanSo I've to install rpm-build16:18
SuperpelicanBut shouldn't rpm-build already be installed?16:18
vgrade_Superpelican: rpmbuild is in my sdk16:19
Superpelicanvgrade_, Stskeeps: running rpmbuild with my python3.spec results in this error: it complains about: "Copyright:Python Software Foundation's GPL-compatible license"16:20
SuperpelicanI added the "Copyright"-tag just like they did in the Max RPM book16:21
SuperpelicanWhat's wrong?16:21
SuperpelicanLooks like they use the "License"-tag these days16:22
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alien_vgrade: did you manage to build qt5 for R-Pi?16:52
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vgrade_alien_: I'm working on a platform plugin so we can use that with the stock Mer build of Qt516:57
vgrade_alien_: so we should not need to rebuild the whole of Qt5 with the rasp-pi mkspec16:59
CosmoHillhi17:02
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SuperpelicanStskeeps: I'm currently reading this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package18:06
SuperpelicanIt says that you shouldn't use the "Copyright", "Packager" and "Vendor" tags18:06
SuperpelicanStskeeps:I'm assuming this are Fedora specific things?18:06
SuperpelicanStskeeps:That the Fedora Packagers don't want you to use when building packages for Fedora?18:07
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Are there similiar requirements for the Mer Project?18:07
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Are there specific things I should keep in mind when building RPM packages for the Mer Project?18:07
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Bostikdamn, he left already18:15
Bostikwould have wanted to point out the practice of splitting changelog from spec, which may come as a surprise (and for large packages with lengthy history would be nice to know in advance)18:17
CosmoHillhey Bostik18:20
Bostikevening cosmo18:20
CosmoHillhow are you?18:20
Bostikrelatively fine, just came back home from a day trip to Hki18:20
CosmoHillI'm working on improving my online portfolio's accessibility18:22
CosmoHilljust redone all the alt descriptions and now find that Opera doesn't word wrap them18:22
Bostikrrright, esoteric bugs and corner-cases, all biting back...18:24
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alien_vgrade: cool19:06
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alien_my attempt was to just rebuild the plarform-eglfs plugin and qtopengl against the raspPi gfx libs19:08
alien_but I didn't get that far with it19:08
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vgrade_alien_: slow progress here also but having fun19:34
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CosmoHillnight all23:33
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ljphmm... mer needs Qt.Labs.particles 1.023:57
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