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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:22 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 05:40 |
| sonach | hey Stskeeps! Still at work on sunday? | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i think it's safe to say that i never really stop working, i just take long breaks ;) | 05:41 |
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| sonach | cool :P at least I play basketball everyday... | 05:42 |
| sonach | and mer IRC is one part of my life, so after I boot my computer, i will join this channel :P | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | i should do more sports.. i like to play badminton but i'm not really a sporty type | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | but am starting to feel that working from home and constantly isn't good for my health | 05:45 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: hmm, yes, in my POV, doing sports everyday is very important. Otherwise, someday in the future, you will suddenly find that you are less productive than before, and it is hard to recover from this bad state... | 05:46 |
| * dm8tbr rediscovered his tennis racket yesterday in one of the moving boxes... | 05:46 | |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: yeah | 05:48 |
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| special | Stskeeps: bah, buy a nice chair, there's no reason to do anything extreme | 05:50 |
| special | (such as "exercise".) | 05:50 |
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| Stskeeps | when i get my new apartment, i'll have space to put my bike in parking lot underneath, hope to start cycling again.. | 05:50 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: from the irc log, it seems that openwebos guy are paying attention to mer and even do something based on mer? | 05:53 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: i think he's just exploring :) personally i think openwebos would have a lot of use of mer, but i think that there's probably a software programme that we don't know details of, in HP itself | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | and hence they'd have difficulties changign build systems | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | unless also that software programme changed | 05:55 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: hmm,yes. and another question. Since most chip vendors only support android-hw-adaption, and mer can work on these chips by libhybris, what does this mean to X11 and wayland? | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: the idea is to enable wayland on top of libhybris | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: when we say wayland in practice we mean structured sharing of buffers and composition anyway | 06:00 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, maybe it is better to discuss this later when running mer on my TV/STB platforms :P | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:03 |
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| kulve | vgrade: with a first look, I don't understand where it states that it would need that.. | 06:19 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: btw, I asked one of the TI guys and he said that getting wayland up on an android driver would still need considerable work all over the place | 06:19 |
| kulve | vgrade: I did upgrade those yesterday but didn't have time to properly test them | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: full wayland yes | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: qml compositor wayland, less so | 06:20 |
| dm8tbr | ok | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | i've done it with my own WSEGL in the past, so | 06:22 |
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| kulve | vgrade: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ld lib/libmmal.so | 06:48 |
| kulve | vgrade: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ld: warning: libmmal_vc_client.so, needed by lib/libmmal.so, not found | 06:48 |
| kulve | that's why it complains about it. Looks like it actually is an upstream bug and not mine this time | 06:49 |
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| Stskeeps | morn SfietKonstantin, sivang | 07:08 |
| timoph | morn all | 07:08 |
| * timoph ponders how to automate mer installation to raspi | 07:09 | |
| kulve | hmm.. why is my package in "finished" state so long? It doesn't switch to "succeeded" state | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: we imported new mer release | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: cobs is probably a bit busy | 07:10 |
| kulve | ok, thought something like that | 07:10 |
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| kulve | timoph: didn't linaro have a hack for that.. I'll google | 07:13 |
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| SfietKonstantin | morn Stskeeps | 07:13 |
| SfietKonstantin | love your wise words on the TMO thread about Jolla / Sailfish | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | mm, thanks | 07:14 |
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| SfietKonstantin | at least, it makes everybody stay calm and code on | 07:15 |
| SfietKonstantin | instead of fud | 07:15 |
| kulve | timoph: can't find it. But some linaro guy (iirc) did a hardware hack that allowed him to use the same SD card slot for both as target hardware card slot and as card reader for PC. There was some programmatic way for choosing which one it was | 07:17 |
| kulve | timoph: basically it allowed him to shutdown target hw, write new image to SD from PC, boot up target hw with new image | 07:17 |
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| kulve | timoph: I would certainly like to see some automatic RPi testing as I usually upgrade packages and test later.. | 07:19 |
| timoph | yep | 07:25 |
| timoph | I was thinking running test images against -next, etc. | 07:25 |
| timoph | to get a heads up early if something brakes | 07:25 |
| timoph | but yeah. I was thinking something like that but currently don't know how to do it :) | 07:26 |
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| dm8tbr | shouldn't be hard to do that | 07:27 |
| timoph | hints welcome :) | 07:28 |
| dm8tbr | there might be even ready packaged parallel switches | 07:28 |
| dm8tbr | on the other hand it might also work as an ugly hack | 07:28 |
| dm8tbr | as in: just cut the power on either device | 07:29 |
| dm8tbr | and wire in parallel | 07:29 |
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| dm8tbr | I'm sure the guys in #beagle would know some pointers. but better label this generic and not just rpi. will save you some ridicule | 07:30 |
| timoph | yep | 07:30 |
| timoph | currently googling for generic solutions | 07:31 |
| dm8tbr | on a beagle/panda btw I'd just serial-boot the device | 07:31 |
| dm8tbr | or USB boot. same thing basically. shove in kernel, let it boot from NFS. do stuff. reset | 07:32 |
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| timoph | com port to the pi would require soldering | 07:32 |
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| dm8tbr | timoph: http://www2.electronicproducts.com/Switches_expand_SD_SDIO_MMC_connection-article-ICDJH12_Dec2009-html.aspx | 07:34 |
| dm8tbr | so will a port multiplexer | 07:34 |
| dm8tbr | that IC I just linked is _exactly_ what you asked for. allows you to switch over a SDIO peripheral from one host to the other | 07:35 |
| timoph | yep | 07:35 |
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| dm8tbr | shouldn't be too hard to design such a thing now (if that doesn't exist yet) | 07:36 |
| * dm8tbr thinks of a short PCB. both ends shaped like a SD card, with traces/pads for contact. In the middle a perpendicularly mounted SD-slot. small connector for switch-control. | 07:37 | |
| timoph | usb boot, do stuff, test. might be easier for me to implement since I'm not a hw hacker :) | 07:38 |
| dm8tbr | does the RPI usb-boot? | 07:38 |
| timoph | dunno yet | 07:39 |
| dm8tbr | given the amount of black voodo magic it takes to boot the cpu... | 07:39 |
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| dm8tbr | they have an irc channel, so you could go and ask them. | 07:40 |
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| timoph | found some guy's instructions for usb boot | 07:43 |
| timoph | requires booting from sd first | 07:43 |
| timoph | so the control logic would be in the sd card and tested image in the usb drive | 07:43 |
| timoph | might be doable | 07:43 |
| kulve | timoph: com port on rpi doesn't need soldering, if you just have a usb serial dongle that gives the pins out (like my self-made does) | 07:43 |
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| kulve | not sure if any of the ones sold in shops do that though.. | 07:44 |
| timoph | :) | 07:44 |
| dm8tbr | umm, you guys seem to be confusing some stuff here... | 07:45 |
| dm8tbr | by USB-boot in the embedded context one means that the device acts as SLAVE and gets data to boot from a master (PC) | 07:46 |
| timoph | dm8tbr: you're coming to the hackday, right? | 07:46 |
| dm8tbr | when is it? | 07:46 |
| timoph | 3 Nov | 07:46 |
| dm8tbr | I think that's during ELCE | 07:46 |
| dm8tbr | ah, no that's between LinaroConnect and ELCE | 07:47 |
| * dm8tbr can't promise | 07:47 | |
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| kulve | dm8tbr: I didn't talk about USB at all, just about getting the serial connection from RPi to PC (which is done using USB dongles as modern PCs don't have a serial port anymore) | 07:52 |
| iekku | morning | 07:52 |
| dm8tbr | kulve: timoph was | 07:56 |
| timoph | yeah. was thinking about different possibilities | 07:57 |
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| dm8tbr | kulve: also I can't find any indication that the UART-booting is publicly documented for the BCM CPU. | 07:57 |
| dm8tbr | and there is no TRM to check that AFAICT | 07:57 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: yeah, the documentation is quite bad. And because the GPU does the booting I doubt it's as flexible as a cpu boot would be | 08:00 |
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| dm8tbr | in the 200 page PDF that there is I found vague indication that you might be able to boot it over I²C | 08:03 |
| dm8tbr | The BSC slave controller has specially built in the Host Control and Software | 08:03 |
| dm8tbr | Registers for a Chip booting. | 08:03 |
| dm8tbr | but most likely no documentation available | 08:03 |
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| dm8tbr | timoph: btw, another chip that would work for what we discussed initially: MAX4996 | 08:09 |
| dm8tbr | maxim might even provide free samples | 08:09 |
| dm8tbr | and jury-rigging such a thing with bread-board shouldn't be too hard | 08:09 |
| dm8tbr | basically a weekend project | 08:09 |
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| dm8tbr | bonus points if someone knows a place to fab some small one-sided PCB at e.g. TTY (maybe telok?) | 08:13 |
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| vgrade | kulve, I thought it was upstream and reported it there yesterday | 08:50 |
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| kulve | I noticed. There is something wrong in the upstream but it may not affect anything. But I don't know what that lib is so I can't know for sure | 08:56 |
| kulve | vgrade: ^highlight | 08:56 |
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| kulve | Mer got a new release, so did RPi and I also re-arranged the gst components a bit (and they are still building). So, everything can be quite broken currently | 09:01 |
| vgrade | kulve, I have to work today so might try removing libmmal later tonight | 09:01 |
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| kulve | I went all libs and binaries through with ldd and nothing linked against it. Of course something could still use dlopen but I doubt it | 09:02 |
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| kulve | so I removed the libmmal from the Mer RPi HA | 09:02 |
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| vgrade | ok, thanks, I'll try my image again later | 09:03 |
| kulve | if people are using CE:Adaptation:RaspberryPi even occasionally, I would like to know about it. Currently I'm assuming there's not much use to it and therefore I keep changing and breaking things at will.. | 09:05 |
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| Stskeeps | think it's understood it's not stable just yet | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | ideally branch and sr though | 09:06 |
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| kulve | we agreed to start using that if there will be need for a stable release in the future. For now we are assuming it's not needed :) | 09:08 |
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| Stskeeps | alright | 09:10 |
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| kulve | I did a quick test with the latest RPi HA and it seems to at least boot. And gst decoding and encoding seems to work | 15:06 |
| kulve | gst decoding and omx encoding, that is | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 15:06 |
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| amjad_ | so any work on mer port to ppc? | 17:32 |
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| CosmoHill | sounds interesting | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | amjad_: not really, any targets in mind? | 17:33 |
| amjad_ | well first of all i have one question, is scratchbox the preferred cross compilation toolkit for Mer ? or can i use something use ? | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | you can use the cross compiler straight | 17:35 |
| amjad_ | ok | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | you can do it but you need to bootstrap a few packages | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | ~100ish | 17:36 |
| amjad_ | ok , sb ppc port is wip and no suppor tthere, though Scratchbox allows foreign toolchains | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | we use sb2, not sb1, btw | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 you just need a cross compiler to match | 17:38 |
| amjad_ | ya, thought so | 17:39 |
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| amjad_ | regarding targets , i am not sure which targes are there in embedded world, i have build Yellow Dog Linux for Apple G3,G4's (32 bit PPC) and CELL B.E (Qs22.JS22) for Server market | 17:45 |
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| * Sage_ eagerly waits when we get new mer snapshot | 18:19 | |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:20 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm still pondering if we should do a followup of .1 though | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | with prelink fixes | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | making a .2 | 18:20 |
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| Sage_ | well, if you want. Not personally seeing huge issue with it as it is mainly small performance hit, right? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | what else would we need to fix? | 18:22 |
| Sage_ | well, something is off with the exopc nemo image but I really want to get xorg update in soon as it is probably cause for many similar issues. | 18:24 |
| Sage_ | bug I haven't noted anything else than prelink | 18:25 |
| Sage_ | s/bug/but/ | 18:25 |
| Kelteseth | Hey Stskeeps pycage told me you work on wayland for Mer ;) How far did you get yet? | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | Kelteseth: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr , http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qmlcomponentgallery.png | 18:26 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I was hoping to get new release out like on 16th or so already with the ~50 +1 reviews from gerrit. | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:26 |
| Kelteseth | ty | 18:27 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: there isn't really anything that destructive in the review atm. so should be quite simple release to do ;) | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: until we get QA i won't take those kind of promises | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:28 |
| Sage_ | ;) | 18:28 |
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| Stskeeps | Kelteseth: quite easy to get started with qt and wayland with Zephyt | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | r | 18:36 |
| Kelteseth | okey i will try it | 18:40 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: Zephyr != Xephyr right? | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 18:51 |
| ali1234 | not related at all? | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephyr | 18:52 |
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| Stskeeps | unrelated, i don't use xephyr | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | zephyr's an effort to make it easy to build next-gen device platforms | 18:53 |
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| ali1234 | why does the sdk need all that bind mount stuff? | 18:59 |
| ali1234 | especially /parentroot? | 19:00 |
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| Stskeeps | ali1234: in order to give you /home, if you don't want it, you don't have to mount | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | but it makes development easier | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | it's possible to just enter, so | 19:01 |
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| Superpelican | ali1234, stskeeps: Did I ready tell you the Pythom 3 ASCII issue is fixed? | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: nop? | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | er | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: nop? | 19:12 |
| Superpelican | Guys at #python helped me | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 19:12 |
| Superpelican | It had nothing to do with Python | 19:13 |
| Superpelican | It was the Mer SDK that caused th problem | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | interesting - what was the cause/ | 19:13 |
| Superpelican | Every 'normal' linux distro gives locale information to python, also encoding format | 19:14 |
| Superpelican | Mer SDK doesn't do that | 19:14 |
| Superpelican | just type in the command "locale" | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | ah, right | 19:15 |
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| Superpelican | But you can set that informationstring for Mer SDK | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | so you're not getting en_US.UTF_8 there? | 19:15 |
| Superpelican | stskeeps:yes | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: i think you could probably file a bug at http://bugs.merproject.org ) | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 19:15 |
| Superpelican | you can set that with a command | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | i had a feeling it would be something like that with the environment, but no idea what to check. that's why i suggested to ask #python :) | 19:16 |
| Superpelican | I can't remember the command and I'm currently on my phone | 19:16 |
| Superpelican | So I can't check what it was | 19:16 |
| ali1234 | export LANGUAGE=... | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | something like that | 19:17 |
| Superpelican | I will check tomorrow | 19:17 |
| Superpelican | ali1234:yes something like that | 19:17 |
| Superpelican | first something like C_TYPE........ | 19:17 |
| Superpelican | and then export ......... | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | LC_ALL also helps, probably | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | thisoh, and LANG | 19:18 |
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| ali1234 | so this is probably due to the chroot being... well, a chroot | 19:18 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, though it should keep env stuff like that though | 19:19 |
| Superpelican | I will create Mer Bugs account and file the bug when I have timd | 19:20 |
| Superpelican | Probably next weekend :( | 19:20 |
| Superpelican | So when I have time again I will continue reading Max RPM | 19:21 |
| Superpelican | And create the spec file | 19:21 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: I have also thought of putting the 2 set locale utf-8 commands in the .spec file | 19:24 |
| Superpelican | And let the .spec set the locale on install of .rpm | 19:24 |
| Superpelican | stskeeps:I've also noticed that all .spec files run rmdir -rf and delete some build dir | 19:25 |
| Superpelican | Why is that? | 19:25 |
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| Superpelican | Is that necessary? | 19:25 |
| Superpelican | It doesn't make any sense to me? To me it seems it deletes the sources of the software before build | 19:26 |
| Superpelican | How can it install then? | 19:27 |
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| Stskeeps | Superpelican: build dir vs buildroot | 19:33 |
| Superpelican | stskeeps:Don't understand | 19:34 |
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| Superpelican | stskeeps:what does that mean | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: bit tired, i'll explain another day :) | 19:35 |
| Superpelican | stskeeps:thx, in that case I won't bother you now anymore | 19:37 |
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| ali1234 | Superpelican: the spec file "installs" the software into a fake filesystem, from which it then builds the rpm | 19:42 |
| ali1234 | so in this case it is deleting stuff that it doesn't want to go into the rpm | 19:42 |
| ali1234 | the install section in the spec file isn't what is done when you install the rpm | 19:43 |
| ali1234 | to run commands when the rpm gets installed you need pre- and post-install scripts | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | but you shouldn't mess with the locale in those as it will break other stuff | 19:44 |
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| Superpelican | ali1234: thx, for your explanation | 19:49 |
| Superpelican | ali1234:I had already thought of if changing locale won't mess up other software | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | the locale should be set by the startup scripts but when you chroot into the SDK, they don't necessarily get run | 19:51 |
| Superpelican | You of course don't to destroy everone's device ;) | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | so in that case it should inherit from the host system | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | but it seems something is going wrong there. and that's a bug. | 19:51 |
| Superpelican | But it doesn't inherit from my openSUSE install | 19:51 |
| Superpelican | running locale on my system outside chroot gives all the information | 19:52 |
| Superpelican | It doesn't leave anything blank | 19:52 |
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| rcg | http://ruedigergad.com/2012/10/07/enabling-umts-on-archos-g9-in-plasma-active/ | 19:55 |
| rcg | jfyi as well | 19:55 |
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