Saturday, 2012-10-06

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Stskeepsurgh04:42
specialwhy are you up at this hour on a saturday04:44
Stskeepswoke up04:45
Stskeepsany news from the night shift?04:47
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specialnone too interesting04:48
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iekkumorning06:11
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iekkummmm, coffeee06:18
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* Stskeeps stares at qt06:35
* dm8tbr stares at the void06:36
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Stskeepssroedal: http://pastie.org/4920505 - does this seem right in your book with eglfs, with QT_QPA_EGLFS_DEPTH=32 ?06:38
Stskeepsin perspective, minimalegl 'works'06:39
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Stskeepscan't seem to find http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/blobs/master/src/plugins/platforms/minimalegl/qminimaleglscreen.cpp#line132 in egl, so06:40
Stskeeps+fs06:40
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Stskeepsworks OK as 8,8,8, or adding EGL_BUFFER_SIZE, 24,06:45
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sroedalStskeeps: where are you printf'ing that?06:49
sroedalStskeeps: and what are you trying to solve? :)06:50
Stskeepssroedal: from alpha1 to beta1 i lost ability to use eglfs and instead use minimalegl, so i'm seeing why i can't use eglfs (in order to see if that helps fonts issue, too) - i print inside eglChooseConfig06:51
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Stskeepsand it refuses to give me a surface with the 'new' way eglfs does it06:52
Stskeepsthis is on my libhybris setup, on qualcomm drivers :P06:53
sroedalStskeeps: so eglChooseConfig fails to find a config with eglfs?06:54
Stskeepssroedal: hmm, let me just add an assert06:54
sroedalStskeeps: oh wait, try changing the depth buffer size we ask for to 1606:54
sroedal-    format.setDepthBufferSize(24);06:55
sroedal-    format.setStencilBufferSize(8);06:55
sroedal+    format.setDepthBufferSize(16);06:55
sroedal+    format.setStencilBufferSize(1);06:55
sroedalI had to make that change to mazecompositor to make it work with my Android build at least06:56
Stskeepsthat's in minimalegl?06:57
sroedalhmm, wonder why actually, since q_reduceConfigAttributes should take care of that06:57
sroedalStskeeps: no, that's in the application code06:57
Stskeepsah, ok06:57
sroedaloh yeah, and stencil from 8 to 106:58
sroedalactually maybe that was only responsible for causing me not to get a stencil / depth buffer at all06:59
StskeepsDepthBufferSize == EGL_DEPTH_SIZE ?07:00
Stskeepsor == EGL_BUFFER_SIZE07:00
sroedalthat's EGL_DEPTH_SIZE07:00
Stskeepsok07:00
Stskeepsi love android drivers.. EGL_TRUE from eglChooseConfig, bail out when asking for surface07:01
sroedalah...07:02
sroedalso that's why eglfs fails07:02
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sroedalStskeeps: "asking for a surface" meaning eglCreateWindowSurface or?07:03
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Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/4920626 causing test_egl: egl/test.c:34: main: Assertion `surface != ((EGLSurface)0)' failed.07:04
Stskeepsbasiaclly07:04
Stskeepswhereas http://pastie.org/4920636 works07:06
Stskeepshence why it works in minimalegl but not in eglfs, and worked in alpha1 eglfs07:06
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Stskeepsthis is probably a bit of a nonstandard setup though :)07:07
sroedalyeah07:08
Stskeepsso if i was to be able to handle a scenario like this, would i make a hook for eglfs that sets the 'right' platformformat or how would it function?07:10
sroedalmaybe eglCreateWindowSurface has stricter requirements on the config when it's a fullscreen non-composited surface07:10
sroedalyeah, I guess so07:10
sroedalvirtual QSurfaceFormat surfaceFormatFor(const QSurfaceFormat &inputFormat) const;07:10
sroedalit lets you tweak a QSurfaceFormat at least07:10
Stskeepsalright07:10
situHi everyone07:12
Stskeepsmorn situ07:14
* Stskeeps has to go sign up for practical driver exam, bbl07:14
Stskeepssroedal: thanks07:14
situMorning..07:14
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SuperpelicanFinally got openSUSE 12.2 KDE installed ;-)07:29
SuperpelicanAnd my computer is now 100% Windows free :-D07:29
SuperpelicanI never used it anyway07:29
SuperpelicanAnd imaged all windows partitions with dd07:30
SuperpelicanSo I can always restore in case...07:30
SuperpelicanI have one question:07:30
SuperpelicanI set up my Mer SDK on Ubuntu07:30
SuperpelicanAnd I backupped the Mer SDK folder07:30
SuperpelicanIf I mount that folder on openSUSE, will I get the same configured SDK back?07:31
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Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe07:34
Sfiet_Konstantinit should work Superpelican07:34
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SuperpelicanK, thx07:43
SuperpelicanJust curious, do many people on this channel and within the Mer Project use openSUSE?07:44
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lbtmorning all08:49
timoph'lo08:49
Stskeepslbt, go for release08:51
lbt:) OK08:51
lbtand kickstarts..08:51
Stskeepsyess08:52
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alterego\m/ - New release dance09:08
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Superpelicanrunning:sudo mic create fs mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks -o /parentroot/srv/mer/targets --pkgmgr=yum --arch armv7hl09:26
SuperpelicanResults in: "error <creator>: command 'modprobe' not found"09:26
Superpelican*not available09:26
SuperpelicanCan't remember if I got this error the last time I set up SB2 in Mer SDK09:27
SuperpelicanAnd if I did, what the workaround was09:27
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StskeepsPATH=$PATH:/sbin in front09:30
Superpelicanthx09:30
SuperpelicanI was just reading the /sbin path variable part09:31
SuperpelicanAnd was just going to ask how you should add it09:31
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SuperpelicanChoosing zypp as package manager results in a lot of errors09:32
SuperpelicanWhy does it use yum?09:32
SuperpelicanI thought Mer used zypper09:32
SuperpelicanDoes this mean I have to work with YUM alot?09:32
SuperpelicanI prefer Zypper09:32
SuperpelicanYUM is so sloooooooooow09:33
SuperpelicanWell at least that are my experiences with Fedora09:33
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StskeepsSuperpelican: just for image creation, we work on stabilizing zypper for image creation09:41
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SuperpelicanK09:47
SuperpelicanI think I'm going to create a TMO account09:57
SuperpelicanCould be very useful09:57
alteregolol09:57
SuperpelicanEsspecially for gathering people for building Python 3 etc.09:57
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alteregoWe have Ruby :)09:59
SuperpelicanYes, Ruby is a nice lang too10:00
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* alterego remembers the first project he did for maemo10:01
alteregoIt was ruby-maemo :)10:01
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alteregoHildon bindings, and ruby port. on top of ruby-gnome10:01
SuperpelicanSeems like there is no pyside  in the opensuse repo's10:01
SuperpelicanBut I did find python-pyside in OBS for SUSE10:02
alteregoInteresting,10:02
SuperpelicanBut no python3-pyside :(10:02
alteregoIs there a python 3?10:02
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alterego(In suse obs?)10:02
SuperpelicanGuess I'm going to get really busy10:02
alteregoYou maye also find using fedora srpms useful.10:02
SuperpelicanIs there no Mer TMO thread?10:04
alteregoMostly nemo tbh10:04
alteregoWhich is probably where we'd want pyside anyway.10:06
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SuperpelicanBut I want to make python3-pyside and python3 also available for upcoming Jolla OS10:11
ali1234are you the same guy from last week?10:13
ali1234(the one i was talking to)10:13
alteregoSuperpelican: then targetting nemo is a better option as it's a mobile os :)10:13
ali1234yes you qare, ok :)10:15
ali1234Superpelican: so, i did some searching and i found that khertan once tried to build python3 on the maemo OBS. that was a deb though. and he deleted the project, which indicates he could never get it to work. and that guy seemed to know a lot about python packaging...10:16
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Superpelicanali1234: yes10:23
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Superpelicanali1234: But as you already said that was trying to build for maemo10:24
Superpelicanali1234: so you might be able to build for Mer/Meego10:24
Superpelicanali1234: also I'm not sure if that's an indication that he could not get it to work10:25
SuperpelicanMay be he just hadn't enough time anymore to contribute to maemo10:25
SuperpelicanOr maybe he sold his n90010:25
alteregoYou could ask him on twitter.10:26
SuperpelicanDon't have twitter ;)10:26
SuperpelicanI just don't understand the point of social media10:27
SuperpelicanWhat's wrong with Whatsapp, a weblog or email?10:27
SuperpelicanBut that's another story of course10:27
SuperpelicanMaybe I'm going to create a twitter account10:29
SuperpelicanBut that would be purely for Mer Project and other open source dev stuff10:29
Superpelicanali1234, alterego: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Python_BoF10:32
Superpelican"The Architecture Team decides which packages are included in MeeGo Core. Getting Python into MeeGo Core is important for the viability of MeeGo app development. Since MeeGo apps cannot trigger download of dependency packages, any Python libraries not included in Core must be bundled with the apps, making them much larger. Right now 2.6.5 is listed in the MeeGo specification for system-config applications. This Python package has no10:33
SuperpelicanGUI support. Ideally both 2.6 and 3 could be included into the Core. "10:33
Superpelicanquoted from the page I just linked10:33
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alteregoThings are different now.10:35
Superpelicanalterego: Yes, you're right, things are of course different now, but I think this does indicate that it IS POSSIBLE to port python 3 to Mer/Meego10:37
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alteregoOf course it's possible ;) Anything is possible :)10:39
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faenilPackage libresourceqt1 not found....what did I forget to install? :) shouldn't it be part of qt-devel or qt-mobility-devel?10:44
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faenilshould I install libevent or something separately?10:45
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ali1234Superpelican: khertan is in this channel sometimes (he was here last week when i was talking to you)10:59
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mike7b4_lenovohellu all, time for me to play with Mer/nemo again :)11:34
Stskeepswb ;)11:35
lbtgrumble... I want to browse the code for our 'mount' but can't ...11:37
Stskeepslbt: i hear that Jake9xx is setting up a cross reference11:38
lbtlxr ?11:38
Stskeepssomething else than that11:38
Stskeepsalso, the rest of us just untars instead of saying it on irc, it's actually faster11:38
Stskeeps:P11:38
lbt:P11:39
Stskeepshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvDvTnTGjgQ11:43
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Superpelicanali1234: what's khertan's nick?11:53
Superpelicannickname on irc I mean11:55
faenilwe should write some most-needed packages to install after you install Mer SDK...12:02
faenillike qt-devel, qt-mobility-devel, make, build-essential...12:02
faenilcan anyone help me write down a list?12:03
faenilof suck packages12:03
faenilsuch... lol12:04
Stskeepsit really depends on what you need to have in the target12:04
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ali1234Superpelican: khertan12:04
faenilStskeeps, but everyone needs qt-devel I think12:04
faenilall Qt devs...which is the main target of the sdk12:05
Stskeepsnot necessarily12:06
Stskeeps:P12:06
faenilok... :P idea rejected :D12:07
faenilwhere is libresourceqt1 in Mer's packages?12:08
Stskeepsit's not, it's in nemo12:08
faenilalright...I don't remember installing it separately last time I installed the SDK...12:09
faenilbut now it doesn't let me qmake the gallery :)12:09
faenilso, where's libresourceqt1 in Nemo's packages? :D12:10
Stskeepsbuild.pub.meego.com -> search button in middle of screen12:11
alteregoYou probably need libresourceqt-devel ;)12:11
faenilyes, exactly :P12:11
faeniltried with libresourceqt1-devel12:11
Stskeepssearch for libresource12:12
faenilStskeeps, sure ;) got that :D12:12
faenilthere we go https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libresourceqt&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared12:13
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CosmoHillhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIwMDU12:25
Stskeepsyeah.. well12:25
Stskeepsat least the fight happens in the open12:26
faenil:D12:26
Stskeepsno samsung, i don't want a 5 minute long intro to your device on my youtube video12:27
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vgrade_they missed the "indicative of a Mickey Mouse project" quote12:29
CosmoHilldoes seem stupid, Arjan's version is very good12:29
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CosmoHillI see no reason at all to require java for it12:30
Stskeepseither way.. i'm not sure i'd like to see tizen die, or at least intel's involvement12:30
Stskeepsit would mean a lot less effort into non-android on intel devices12:30
faenilyup, definitely less12:31
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VDVsxany recent news about tizen ?12:36
Stskeepsnah, just business as usual12:37
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alteregoI heard they've not let the Genie out the bottle yet.12:38
alteregoBB10 and this new device seem to be getting good press.12:38
alteregoThough the name is a bit pompous for my liking.12:38
faenilyeah BB10 should be a nice OS12:39
alteregoShame it's not Linux12:40
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alteregoWhat do they use as a graphical backend?12:40
faenilwell, QNX12:40
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faenildon't know..12:41
faenilalso pity it's not a hackable OS12:42
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VDVsxbb10 is very good for qt/qml let's hope they get some traction12:45
faenilVDVsx, though the fact that Cascades and QtQuick can't be used at the same time is...ehm..disappointing12:47
VDVsxyes, shame that is not portable, but more people using it always good, and RIM also can contribute some improvements to Qt(I hope they are doing it)12:48
faenilyeah12:49
* Stskeeps sobs12:54
Stskeepsspent time building qtbase12:54
Stskeepsrealized it was armv7hl, not armv7l12:54
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VDVsxlol12:54
VDVsxand normally is not that fast to build qt :D12:55
faeniloops12:55
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SuperpelicanBut maybe the Intel-Samsung fight is actually positive for Mer/Meego etc.12:56
SuperpelicanThink of it12:57
SuperpelicanIf Intel "breaks up" with Samsung12:57
Stskeepsif intel-samsung breaks up, i don't think intel wants to play any more in the OS field.12:57
Stskeepssimple as that12:57
Stskeepsthey've already changed to 'efforts in open source' instead, not focused around a distro, at 01.org12:57
timophit would be better for all if they'd do thing properly12:57
timophand got something sane out the door12:58
Stskeepshttps://01.org/12:58
SuperpelicanThat's a really nice domain name ;)12:59
Superpelican"01"12:59
Superpelicanhttps://01.org/rib/12:59
SuperpelicanLooks interesting12:59
timophwell, they do lots of good things12:59
SuperpelicanI don't think there does exist anything like that12:59
SuperpelicanI mean RIB13:00
SuperpelicanYes, Intel does do really good things for FOSS and LInux13:00
SuperpelicanI'm really fed up Nvidia, ATI and all there stuff13:00
SuperpelicanMy next system will have pure Intel hardware13:01
SuperpelicanAt least you don't have problems than with crappy drivers or no support at all13:01
timophyep. for some reason even with all the experience from open source they do tizen as they do13:01
SuperpelicanMy current laptop has Optimus :(13:01
timophmight be a samsung thing though. dunno.13:01
timophmy previous one had optimus. gave it to my gf and bought a macbook13:02
SuperpelicanBut you do run Linux on the macbook? ;)13:03
timophyep13:03
SuperpelicanI really can't stand Optimus13:03
SuperpelicanI never use the Nvidia card13:03
Stskeepstimoph: i think somebody, somewhere, wrote a really bad conditions contract13:03
timophcurrently using linux on mac13:03
Stskeepstimoph: and samsung is fucking over intel that way13:03
SuperpelicanIt just heats up my laptop and reduces my battery life13:03
timophStskeeps: yep13:04
Stskeepstimoph: because between the lines it's obvious it's not an equal partnership13:04
Stskeepssamsung is a intel customer and the customer is demanding13:04
SuperpelicanStskeeps: So you mean Intel is basically leading the partnership?13:05
timophyeah. just like it says "samsung property" in the license13:05
StskeepsSuperpelican: no, reverse13:05
StskeepsSuperpelican: samsung's probably a chipset customer of intel's13:05
Stskeepsand samsung is strong-arming intel with that13:05
SuperpelicanDoes anyone know the difference between Kwrite and Kate?13:06
SuperpelicanWhich one has the most features for basic programming13:06
SuperpelicanLittle Python scripts, HTML etc.13:06
timophdunno. I'm using vim for scripting languages13:07
Stskeepssroedal: funny, i patched eglfs, and fonts work in that13:08
SuperpelicanPython 3.2 syntax is compatible with Python 2.7, right?13:09
SuperpelicanBecause Python 2.7 has lot's of backported features?13:10
SuperpelicanAlso Python 3.3 is out13:10
SuperpelicanGonna try to make that13:10
SuperpelicanBecause I read this in the "what's new page of python3.3":13:10
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SuperpelicanWell, I can't find it anymore13:14
SuperpelicanBut it was something like: "There is now no difference anymore between so-called narrow and wide builds"13:15
SuperpelicanIt had something to do with the included libs13:15
SuperpelicanSo I thought that maybe now some library is included by default13:15
SuperpelicanThat fixes the ASCII error problem13:15
Superpelicanwith printing "²"13:15
SuperpelicanOr any other non-ASCII Unicode character13:16
Stskeepssroedal: ok, spoke a bit too soon. solves -some- of the issue :)13:17
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SuperpelicanRunning make13:19
SuperpelicanOf python3.3 ;-)13:20
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Superpelicanrunning "print('²')" still gives this error: "SyntaxError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc2 in position 20: ordinal not in range(128)"13:28
SuperpelicanWith my own maked python3.3 of course13:28
Superpelicanali1234: What library was it you told me last time could fix the ascii-unicode issue?13:28
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ali1234Superpelican: termios or unicodedata13:30
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ali1234i don't think it's a python problem... i think it's more likely an environment problem13:31
lbtStskeeps: release is done13:32
Stskeepslbt: good13:32
lbtno obvious issues13:32
Stskeepslbt: importing to cobs next?13:32
ali1234Superpelican: people in #python may be able to give you better advice. just tell them you're porting it13:32
lbtyep - just looking at http://releases.merproject.org/releases/13:32
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Sage_Stskeeps: libcap -> libcap-ng, procps -> procps-ng13:40
Sage_couple of moves we should do as well13:42
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Superpelicanali1234: can't ask on #python you have to register your nickname or something13:52
SuperpelicanI tried: http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode13:53
SuperpelicanBut it says my nickname is already in use13:53
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Superpelicanali1234:registered my nickname now :D14:03
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SuperpelicanI fixed the ASCII issue: It wasn't a python error, neither had it anything to do with my python interpreter14:31
SuperpelicanIt was the Mer SDK that was causing trouble14:31
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SuperpelicanMer SDK doesn't tell Python that the environment supports UTF-814:31
SuperpelicanSo Python interpreter thinks the shell only supports ASCII characters14:31
SuperpelicanThe workaround is to manually set the local environment value to UTF-814:32
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SuperpelicanJust run this: "LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8"14:32
SuperpelicanThat sets the enviroment variable to UTF-814:33
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SuperpelicanYou also have to run: "export LC_CTYPE"14:36
SuperpelicanBut don't thank me, but guys on #python14:37
SuperpelicanThey really helped me14:37
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phaeronlbt: how come this is a pre release ?14:47
Stskeepsprerelease? should be a .114:48
phaeronthe email subject is wrong14:49
Stskeepsah14:49
phaeronbut it is a .1 release14:49
Stskeepsyeah14:49
Stskeepsso it is14:49
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Stskeepslbt: i'd like us to put testrunner-ui in Mer:Tools, what does it take to do that?15:34
Stskeepsand please don't say git-pkg15:34
Stskeeps:P15:34
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cos-which rpm's provide qdeclarative-boostable and libresourceqt1 in mer sdk?15:51
faenilcos-, libresourceqt1 is in libresourceqt-devel15:51
Stskeepscos-: it's in nemo repos15:52
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faeniluploading15:54
faenilStskeeps, does that make a difference from sdk user pov?15:54
cos-ok.. how do i add nemo repos? in /etc/zypp/repos.d/?15:55
Stskeepsfaenil: well, if you're inside a sb2 target, not terribly much15:55
Stskeepsfaenil: if you're in sdk, yes15:55
faenilright, I'm too used to being in sb2 :)15:55
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* CosmoHill is muddy15:56
StskeepsMuddyHill ?15:56
CosmoHillhehe15:56
CosmoHillwent out for a bike ride and turned back when it got too muddy15:58
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Stskeepshello mix16:00
mixhi16:01
Stskeepsmix, welcome to #mer :) so what brings you here?16:01
vgrade_stabs ClearCase16:02
Stskeepsvgrade_: hehe16:02
CosmoHillStskeeps: do you greet all new comers?16:02
CosmoHill(new to you)16:02
StskeepsCosmoHill: yes, i try16:02
CosmoHillkudos16:02
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ka6soxshould I upgrade from F15 to something later to start working with mer?16:05
vgrade_I don't know who decided that the default option when putting things under source control was not to preserve the case of filenames but I'd like to meet them16:05
CosmoHillvgrade?16:05
Stskeepska6sox: f15 has which kernel?16:06
* ka6sox needs to boot it to check...16:06
mixi was looking around for information abour mer project.. is it there a staring point on how to compile and boot the mer kernel on a generic arm device?16:06
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Stskeepsmix: the good news is that we don't have a mer kernel, use >2.6.32 or above that matches your hardware16:06
Stskeepsmix: in mer, core and hardware adaptations are seperate16:07
vgrade_CosmoHill: battling some big company enforced CM system which does not play well with Linux source16:07
CosmoHillthat is handy16:07
CosmoHillah16:07
Stskeepska6sox: if 2.6.37 or above you should be fine16:08
ka6soxits EOL...so I should upgrade it seems.16:08
CosmoHilldamn, i use F15 on my desktop16:08
Stskeepska6sox: at least there's a 2.6.38 kernel for f1516:09
Stskeepska6sox: mer platform sdk is a chroot of it's own so it only cares about the kernel16:09
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ka6soxokay good...16:09
ka6soxlet me get the kernel upgraded then if it isn't16:09
Stskeepska6sox: let me know if you have any questions, we're all happy to help here16:09
ka6soxits probably stock.16:10
Stskeepsstock may be 2.6.38 too16:10
ka6soxStskeeps, much apprecited.16:10
mixstskeeps: thanks.. i'll start, from the wiki pages16:10
Stskeepsmix: is your device armv6, armv7, ?16:10
alteregoErm .. Have I broken obs?16:13
Stskeepsalterego: hmm?16:13
CosmoHillhey alterego16:13
alteregoHowdy16:14
alteregoOh, hmm.16:14
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alteregoI see you can't have an i486 and i586 repo in same project16:16
Stskeepsalterego: hm?16:17
alteregoI was trying to build the i586 cross compiler for sb2 in the same project as my i486 cross compiler, and it seems it confused obs a bit.16:17
Stskeepsit might, yeah16:17
alteregoIt broke i486, so I commented out the meta section for the i586 cross repo and it's working now.16:18
alteregoI'll have to tidy up these projects I guess.16:18
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alteregoProbably a bug :P16:19
alteregoBut it is a somewhat confusing setup I guess.16:20
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ka6soxdoes mer care about 32/64 host?16:31
Stskeepsnot really but let us know if you encounter issues16:32
CosmoHillshould be fine16:33
alteregoWell, I've done something wrong. the cross compiled gcc still uses the system ld -_-16:33
Stskeepsbad alterego16:33
Stskeeps:P16:33
Stskeepsalterego, i'll take care of it, if there's more important things you need to do, do those :)16:34
ka6soxreading documentation :D16:34
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ka6soxStskeeps, in some ways this is more optimized for what we are doing with OpenWebOS.16:38
ka6soxthe architecture is more aligned with what is needed.16:39
Stskeepska6sox: what i usually say is that if you try to do a non-android stack, you end up with 90-95% mer anyway16:40
Stskeepsso why not just base on mer and diverge in the areas you need to16:40
ka6soxyes, I can see this...16:41
Stskeepstimoph: i don't suppose you're around?16:42
ka6soxwhat creates the diagrammes: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/File:Architecture_Centrallibraries_Context.png16:42
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Stskeepska6sox: wiki.meego.com/AgileBrowser16:42
ka6soxthanks16:43
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Stskeepska6sox: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-core10.svg and zoom out16:46
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ka6soxStskeeps, wow....16:47
Stskeepska6sox: and that's not even full picture16:47
ka6soxyour documentation is quite useful...the wiki is one of the best for finding things I've found.16:48
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Stskeepsyeah, but not entirely there yet16:48
Stskeepswe can focus on doing a good core, which is nice16:48
ka6soxstill, I was looking for a glossary and found that too...16:49
Stskeepsand throw away uis if needed without having to re-make entire stack16:49
ka6soxshared state is a very nice concept to work with.16:49
Stskeepska6sox: did you see our QA tools yet?16:50
ka6soxno, not yet...haven't gotten there...16:51
ka6soxtoday I am reading the documentation before I attempt to set this all up so I can learn.16:51
Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/testtrunner-manual.png , http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/testplanner.png , http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/hostbased.png16:51
Stskeepsyep16:51
ka6soxwe don't really have testsuites other than build regression16:53
Stskeepswe aren't good in that area either but we have amazing infra and tools for it.. https://qareports.jollamobile.com/testing/Mer/Automated/VM , https://qareports.jollamobile.com/testing/Mer/Automated/VM/4416:53
ka6sox(because we don't build in sB2 or qemu16:53
Stskeepsand automated VMs for testing without hw, too16:53
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timophStskeeps: I am now :)16:54
Stskeepserrr..16:55
Stskeepsignore that16:55
timophignored16:56
timoph:p16:56
* Stskeeps puts 10 euro in the idiot jar16:56
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cybettestskeeps: who gets the money collected in that jar? :P16:56
Stskeepshttp://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Handset/Acceptance/N900CE , http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Handset/Acceptance/N900CE/331716:57
Stskeepsthere, now forget all about the previous qa-reports link16:57
Stskeeps:P16:57
ka6soxbeer fund?16:57
cybetteo/ for beer!16:58
iekku\o16:58
* iekku haz beer16:58
* cybette has lonkero... close enough for now16:59
timophI would have guessed liquorice16:59
Stskeepstimoph: does testrunner-ui host field support host:port notation?16:59
timophStskeeps: iirc yes16:59
Stskeepsok, good16:59
timophif not, I'll fix it16:59
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timophhmmh. do we still consider the platform sdk as a work in progress?17:01
Stskeepstimoph: what isn't WIP in open source..17:01
timophor can I remove that note from the wiki main page17:01
timophyep17:01
alteregoemacs17:01
alteregoCan't remember the last time they updated that17:02
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alteregoThen there's all those redundant FOSS projects, like ...17:02
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timophI'm removing the note. I think it's ready enough17:03
Stskeepsalrighty then17:03
ka6soxtimoph, it doesn't read like a WIP17:03
ka6soxit seems compleat to me.17:04
timophyep. the sdk page has enough warnings so no need to have wip disclaimer in the wiki's main page17:05
alteregoDon't rm -rf /parentroot17:05
Stskeepsyeah..17:05
timophunless you really want to :p17:06
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CosmoHillhmm, Xilo or AAISP?18:00
dm8tbraaisp is cool18:01
lbtStskeeps: I've enabled qemu tools in qemu-usermode - do you want them in a discrete qemu-tools package? qemu-img is the main one I want to make vmdk vbox images.18:01
lbtand I'll sort out testrunner-ui later18:01
Stskeepslbt: seperate package if ok18:08
Stskeepslbt: qemu-usermode goes into sb2 tools root, -static goes into obs builds18:08
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lbtyep - making the qemu-tools rpm as part of qemu-usermode build is OK isn't it ?18:24
Stskeepsyes18:25
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ljphmm.. my osc build of mobility failed. boo hoo18:52
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ljpwth is lib/off? qt-mobility/lib/off: No such file or directory.19:08
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Stskeepsyay netsplits21:00
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vgradekulve, ping22:15
vgradekulve, I'm getting gfx-rpi-1-6.1.armv6l requires libmmal_vc_client.so when I build an image.22:16
vgradeI don't see that file in the git so raised an issue there22:17
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Venemohey Stskeeps22:24
Venemohow hard is it to set up libhybris on a random android device?22:24
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kaziklubeyOffice Space on the telly. Love it :)23:31
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