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| E-P | Morgen | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | good morning E-P | 05:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn jukkaeklund, VDVsx | 06:09 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps: morning | 06:10 |
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| jukkaeklund | morningah | 06:12 |
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| Stskeeps | E-P: do we have a git place for our modified test sets btw? | 06:12 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps: no, only in OBS | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:18 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 06:36 |
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| rcg-work | is there a package for usb_modeswitch in mer? or something equivalent? | 07:56 |
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| Stskeeps | rcg-work: as in, for usb modems? | 08:21 |
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| JvD_ | usb host mode? | 08:44 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: good morning | 08:45 |
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| notmart | mdfe_: yo | 08:47 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 08:48 |
| mdfe_ | did you take a look to the patches of plasma-mobile of wonko? | 08:48 |
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| mdfe_ | there was a bug report and mail for two days | 08:49 |
| notmart | uuh, wonko no | 08:49 |
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| notmart | url? | 08:49 |
| mdfe_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=plasma-mobile&project=home%3Awonko%3Abranches%3AProject%3AKDE%3ATrunk%3ATesting | 08:50 |
| mdfe_ | add-path-for-index-method.patch and fix-ViewerPage-DirModel-handling.patch | 08:50 |
| notmart | aah, that one | 08:50 |
| notmart | yeah, i talked yesterday with him | 08:50 |
| mdfe_ | cool :) | 08:51 |
| mdfe_ | I'm asking because we should thing about to stop ci | 08:51 |
| notmart | he agreed to get a git accound and submit them upstream | 08:51 |
| notmart | hmm, i maybe take them into the release.. | 08:52 |
| lbt | morning all | 08:52 |
| mdfe_ | good morning | 08:52 |
| notmart | well, don't think ci is giving problems for release.. | 08:52 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: ok | 08:52 |
| notmart | i copied some day ago the status of packages in testing and trunk | 08:52 |
| notmart | so right now devel can become whatever | 08:53 |
| mdfe_ | just drop me a line in case something has to be changed | 08:53 |
| notmart | ok | 08:53 |
| lbt | mdfe_: notmart: how's things | 08:53 |
| notmart | mdfe_: a thing i'll need from you shortly will be publishing an image from trunk somewhere... | 08:53 |
| notmart | in the current state there is just a problem | 08:54 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: do you finished the package group stuff for the release? | 08:54 |
| notmart | lbt: fine ;) | 08:54 |
| lbt | IMG is running FYI | 08:54 |
| notmart | yeah, the group issue | 08:54 |
| notmart | right now i am still only able to build an image if i use the main adatation repo, not my copy | 08:54 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: which image? | 08:56 |
| notmart | lbt: know how i can make a package group? | 08:56 |
| notmart | mdfe_: i made a new ks basyskom-plasma-active-release-mer-usb-live-x86.ks | 08:56 |
| mdfe_ | this is a new ks file? | 08:57 |
| mdfe_ | ahh | 08:57 |
| notmart | yep | 08:57 |
| mdfe_ | release | 08:57 |
| notmart | that is almost it, it still doesn't use the x86 adaptation copy | 08:57 |
| lbt | notmart: I thought about that - when I do a release I run a script that runs createrepo | 08:58 |
| lbt | and the group/pattern stuff is handled there | 08:58 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: drop me a line when I should start building this image | 08:58 |
| notmart | can i take a look at that script? | 08:58 |
| lbt | the reason is that OBS's solution is to have an XML file per group/pattern and I like them all in one | 08:58 |
| lbt | yep | 08:58 |
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| lbt | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/release-tools.git;a=blob;f=tools/createrelease.sh;h=f7c80cfd09bfa0efd2c2a98d287e2c73a5ff45a3;hb=ec2c4854abd90d8f0a358f1ca3328b384dbf70c1 | 09:00 |
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| lbt | https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/repomd-pattern-builder/blobs/master/repomd-pattern-builder.py | 09:03 |
| notmart | but this is something for releases.merproject.org and the script runs on the same machine? | 09:03 |
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| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs/tree/master/patterns | 09:05 |
| lbt | notmart: same LAN | 09:05 |
| notmart | if i understood correctly on obs groups are in that strange package called _pattern, that can't access neither with the web ui or the obs command line tool | 09:06 |
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| lbt | yeah | 09:07 |
| lbt | OBS handles them but I never found the docs, didn't understand it and got annoyed at having to edit so many files :) | 09:08 |
| rcg-work | Stskeeps, yes | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | rcg-work: there's a package in meego.com | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | steal that | 09:08 |
| rcg-work | the archos 3g stick first is in some mass storage mode and needs to be switched to 3g mode | 09:09 |
| notmart | eheh, i understand ;) | 09:09 |
| rcg-work | ah great :) | 09:09 |
| rcg-work | sure :) | 09:09 |
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| notmart | hmm, actually the problem doesn't seem that there isn't a group | 09:20 |
| rcg-work | Stskeeps, do you happen to recall the project where usb_modeswitch is in? | 09:20 |
| rcg-work | i assume you mean its on build.pub.meego.com | 09:20 |
| notmart | but i have the same packages in both repo, my copy tells that a dependency failed over a file called /sbin/insmod.static | 09:20 |
| rcg-work | been looking already in various MeeGo:foo projects, however, most are simply empty | 09:20 |
| rcg-work | Stskeeps, if you don't know it of the top of your head i'll simply keep searching ;) | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | rcg-work: not on top of my head | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | search for modeswitch | 09:31 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | rcg-work: sometimes a simple eject on the mass storage device does the job as well. Is not as automated as modeswitch though | 09:32 |
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| rcg-work | Stskeeps, right. so i did.. but well, i'll keep on looking ;) | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, so what's status of non broken prerelease? | 09:38 |
| rcg-work | btw. is the search on obs broken in general? | 09:39 |
| rcg-work | so far i just used google with site:foo | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=usb-modeswitch&project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3Aoss | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | and usb-modeswitch-data | 09:41 |
| rcg-work | ah thanks Stskeeps! | 09:42 |
| rcg-work | yeah :) | 09:42 |
| Jake9xx | Stskeeps: Sage_ is 'mic create auto..' sufficient to make a bootable iso image if from the latest corresponding ks file ? | 09:42 |
| rcg-work | been looking all the time at build.pub.meego.com | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: what's your base .ks? i586-vm/i486-vm ? | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: just do mic cr livecd -A i686 then | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | if i586-vm | 09:43 |
| Jake9xx | Stskeeps: ok, need to build own image due to #501 | 09:45 |
| Jake9xx | bug 501, that is ^^ | 09:45 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 501 in mesa "mesa llvmpipe doesn't do texture from pixmap in gallium-llvmpipe for EGL" [Major,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501 | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: right | 09:45 |
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| Jake9xx | Stskeeps: btw, if you saw huge peak in cobs' activity it was my indexer pulling and building packages | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | your what? | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:48 |
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| Jake9xx | I should be able to publis my opengrok on mer soon | 09:48 |
| Jake9xx | s/lis/lish | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | mxr | 09:48 |
| Jake9xx | kind of | 09:48 |
| rcg-work | stefan_schmidt_w, thanks also for the hint. might give that a try as well | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: you could also just rsync mer's package-git/ | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: and pick out tarballs | 09:48 |
| Jake9xx | do the tarballs contain patches already? | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | no but you can use -bp for that | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | rpmbuild -bp that is | 09:49 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | rcg-work: eject is handy during the development. usb-modeswitch is a better solution when integrating it into images, etc | 09:49 |
| Jake9xx | Stskeeps: ok, once I get the crossreferencer to work I'll resync 'em all | 09:50 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: all went well and the updatestorm is started | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: OK | 09:52 |
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| amjad_ | this board looks interesting, lets see if mer can be ported to it next year ,when they actually start shipping board :) | 10:55 |
| amjad_ | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone | 10:55 |
| lbt | none on /mnt type vboxsf (rw,nodev,relatime) | 11:00 |
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| rcg-work | Stskeeps, jfyi, copied to cobs, updated to latest upstream, and build successfully usb-modeswitch* for Mer, will test later today when i am at home | 11:14 |
| lbt | phaeron: does mic support running depmod when image building? | 11:15 |
| phaeron | lbt: put that in kickstart %post ? | 11:15 |
| rcg-work | if everything work, should i push this to the official CE:MW:Shared? | 11:15 |
| rcg-work | *works | 11:15 |
| lbt | phaeron: yes, it's there | 11:15 |
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| phaeron | so what's the issue | 11:16 |
| lbt | line 273 https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=virtualbox.spec&package=virtualbox&project=home%3Albt%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting&rev=554ac75d4bdf3be1935463796d46d611 | 11:16 |
| lbt | when I booted the image it failed to modprobe vboxsf until I'd run depmod -a by hand | 11:16 |
| phaeron | lbt: you said image building that is a spec file .. | 11:17 |
| lbt | and it doesn't run %post? | 11:17 |
| lbt | but yeah - I misread what you said :) | 11:18 |
| * phaeron confused | 11:19 | |
| phaeron | You said : "does mic support running depmod when image building" so I said yes in %post , then you linked to a spec %post | 11:19 |
| lbt | yeah .. so mic should run the spec %post during install | 11:23 |
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| vgrade_ | morning | 11:43 |
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| phaeron | lbt: it ignores some of the %posts | 11:45 |
| phaeron | depending on some chroot check | 11:45 |
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| lbt | phaeron: *nod*.... for v in /lib/modules/* ; do /sbin/depmod -a $(basename $v); done | 11:47 |
| phaeron | lbt: right uname would report wrong version to depmod if you don't sepcify version I guess | 11:49 |
| lbt | it does | 11:49 |
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| vgrade_ | I want to compare that two iso's built by mic at different times on different systems but using the same kickstart and same input repos. The file size is the same but the md5sum's are different. I assume due to file creation times? | 11:54 |
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| lbt | yep | 11:55 |
| lbt | loopmount and diff -r | 11:55 |
| vgrade_ | lbt, ok | 11:55 |
| vgrade_ | thanks | 11:55 |
| lbt | np | 11:56 |
| vgrade_ | and that does not look at the dates | 11:56 |
| lbt | no, it'll just look at content | 11:57 |
| vgrade_ | ok thanks | 11:57 |
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| deztructor | Qt headers gives annoying note/warning during compilation "the #mangling of 'va_list' has changed in GCC 4.4", it can be disabled by -Wno-psabi but it seems better to fix it in the source | 12:25 |
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| rymek | Hi, I'm running 3.5 kernel on my N9. After the Login prompt shows on the console and couple seconds pass, console becomes unresposive. Couple seconds later there is a phone restart without any error logs. Any ideas what could be wrong? | 12:55 |
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| dm8tbr | rymek: sounds like a watch-dog? | 13:05 |
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| dm8tbr | rymek: kjokinie should know or Sage_ | 13:06 |
| kjokinie | rymek: watchdog... did you clone the kernel from github and use the master branch? | 13:08 |
| rymek | kjokinie: yes | 13:08 |
| dm8tbr | didn't you guys move the git recently? | 13:09 |
| rymek | I see some patch from 03.10 in that tree | 13:09 |
| kjokinie | there should be this fix for the watchdog minor numbers to keep the device alive: https://github.com/nemomobile/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9/commit/967d3d4a9eeda578579cde2b8b8e5a04dadde460 | 13:09 |
| rymek | thanks will try that and come back to you | 13:10 |
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| kjokinie | dm8tbr: yes, bit-bucket is not used anymore... though that also has the watchdog fix | 13:10 |
| dm8tbr | k :) | 13:10 |
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| rferrazz | can i build against mer on build.opensuse.org? | 13:11 |
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| lbt | rferrazz: no, just on build.pub.meego.com for now | 13:14 |
| lbt | rferrazz: ... and welcome to Mer :) | 13:14 |
| rferrazz | lbt: thank you, how can i get an account for build.pub.meego.com? | 13:15 |
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| sonach | rferrazz: Register one username on build.pub.meego.com, and then tell lbt what your username is. | 13:34 |
| lbt | hey sonach ... ty (just chasing kittens!) | 13:34 |
| rferrazz | i'm already registered on meego.com | 13:35 |
| lbt | rferrazz: what username | 13:35 |
| rferrazz | lbt: my username is fiorentux | 13:35 |
| lbt | done - have fun :) | 13:35 |
| rferrazz | thank you! | 13:36 |
| sonach | lbt: chase kittens ... hehe | 13:37 |
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| lbt | so how are things sonach? | 13:41 |
| sonach | lbt: http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23mer/ is down? | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | now at merproject.org/logs | 13:42 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, thanks. But it seems that the public(at least me) doesn't know the change? :P | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah we should probably mail about that | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, will you do the honors? | 13:44 |
| lbt | good idea | 13:45 |
| sonach | it used to display in the '[INFO]' lines, | 13:45 |
| sonach | in the '[INFO]' lines of this IRC | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's fixed there i think | 13:45 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it says "This channel is logged http://merproject.org/meetings/" and then I can only see 'mer-meeting' under this address, | 13:47 |
| sonach | maybe display 'http://merproject.org/logs/' is better, for I can see mer-meeting, mer and nemomobile under this address, | 13:48 |
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| dm8tbr | sonach: the #mer-meeting logs under irclogs don't include the meeting minutes though | 13:49 |
| sonach | dm8tbr: yeap, i notice this. so maybe there are some confuses... anyway, it is not a big problem, I am clear about all this logs now :) | 13:52 |
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| dm8tbr | sonach: the problem is only that my server is down. otherwise there would be a transparent redirect to the new location | 13:53 |
| dm8tbr | I have a temporary site up, but didn't have the time to rebuild the redirects | 13:53 |
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| rymek | dm8tbr, kjokinie: thanks. Patch works! | 14:03 |
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| dm8tbr | rymek: cool! looking forward to your stuff then. :) | 14:04 |
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| rymek | :) | 14:07 |
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| kjokinie | rymek: great :) | 14:10 |
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| Stskeeps | 260 people here, not bad | 14:38 |
| faenil | just read the new Jolla's press release...awesome! :D | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | discussion welcome in #jollamobile | 14:40 |
| faenil | sure ;) | 14:42 |
| lbt | bug 85 | 14:42 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 85 in .Project-core "Investigate variables for deciding if a %post/RPM scriptlet happens during build, image install or on active device" [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85 | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | right | 14:43 |
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| gandhijee_ | hey Stskeeps hows things | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | gandhijee_: good, busy as heck | 15:28 |
| gandhijee_ | i bet | 15:28 |
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| Stskeeps | andre__: so your new job is with wikimedia too? | 15:30 |
| andre__ | Stskeeps, heja, yes | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: congrats :) | 15:30 |
| andre__ | wasn't planned though, didn't know about Quim :) | 15:30 |
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| andre__ | thanks :) | 15:30 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah.. frankly i'm just happy to see him have a sane job where he can do good | 15:30 |
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| Stskeeps | and still have us visa | 15:30 |
| andre__ | yes, must have felt awkward for the last months | 15:31 |
| andre__ | heh, he had quite some stuff to sort out. | 15:31 |
| andre__ | something to (hopefully) believe in, not like the Qt position in Nokia... | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. for me i thought the mission wasn't complete, though i started much later than others.. | 15:33 |
| andre__ | oh yeah | 15:33 |
| andre__ | and soon one more Bugzilla under my control, on the way to world domination :P | 15:33 |
| faenil | ahah | 15:34 |
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| Stskeeps | andre__: gnome down, maemo down, wikipedia next? ;p | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | i see a pattern here! | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:34 |
| * Stskeeps runs | 15:34 | |
| andre__ | :D | 15:34 |
| andre__ | you forgot Mer in that list ;) | 15:35 |
| faenil | Stskeeps trolol | 15:35 |
| andre__ | (at least when it comes to me being a Bugzilla admin) | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 15:35 |
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| Stskeeps | hello tesla | 15:45 |
| tesla | just hanging out :) | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | tesla: sure :) welcome to #mer ! :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time | 15:47 |
| tesla | thanks! | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | tesla: what brings you here, out of curiousity? | 15:48 |
| tesla | I am constantly following jolla news! wondering how much activity happening in IRC | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | sure, quite a fair bit | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | #jollamobile and #nemomobile also exists | 15:49 |
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| rcg | alright, usb_modeswitch seems to work basically :) | 17:14 |
| rcg | now i need to get usbserial into the kernel ;) | 17:15 |
| Jake9xx | rcg: that should be quite easy | 17:21 |
| Jake9xx | rcg: let me guess, then you plan vvdial or something? | 17:21 |
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| rcg | Jake9xx: i'll see.. don't know yet, actually.. however wvdial seems to be a viable option | 17:22 |
| Jake9xx | rcg: I had some strange build issues with it when doing Pandaboard with Yocto but on Mer things might be easier. | 17:23 |
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| rcg | Jake9xx: i see.. so far i would be happy to see /dev/ttyUSB0 ;) | 17:24 |
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| Shaan7 | hi! I am using Plasma Active's images which are based on mer. Does mer have packages for playing proprietary formats such as mp3 or mpg? | 18:05 |
| Shaan7 | more specifically, gstreamer plugins for those formats. | 18:06 |
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| Stskeeps | it doesn't due to royalty-free yadda yadda patents, etc | 18:16 |
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| ka6sox | Stskeeps, mer-core has no concept of x11 or anything GUI right? thats all a different layer? | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | ka6sox: mer-core can target multiple things, it includes x11, framebuffer, wayland.. | 18:56 |
| ka6sox | nice | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | was intentionally designed like that | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | though it's a bit x11-heavy atm | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | i use same core to do both x11 and wayland systems | 18:56 |
| ka6sox | k | 18:57 |
| ka6sox | I have a small system I would like to try this on. the OE images I am getting are too big | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | part of the power is that there's architecturally not a huge difference between for example our x86 virtualbox images, and our devices | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | same software | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | just different hw adaptation | 19:00 |
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| ka6sox | that is nice for development. | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 19:06 |
| lbt | ka6sox: need any guidance on getting started? | 19:08 |
| ka6sox | lbt, I will on monday...today I have to sort out the mess created by a release | 19:10 |
| lbt | OK ... make it early on monday - travelling in the afteroon and away tue/wed | 19:10 |
| ka6sox | but I will come back here when I start then. | 19:10 |
| ka6sox | what TZ are you in/ | 19:11 |
| * Stskeeps looks at gmail inbox | 19:11 | |
| Stskeeps | 1212 emails | 19:11 |
| lbt | np - look forward to it | 19:11 |
| lbt | 2603 | 19:11 |
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| rcg | hmm.. well.. it's named /dev/ttyHS4 but it accepted my sim card pin via at command :) | 19:11 |
| lbt | stupid monitoring systems | 19:11 |
| ka6sox | 9825 | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: connman + ofono should be able to handle a 3g modem | 19:12 |
| rcg | Stskeeps: cool, will give it a try | 19:12 |
| lbt | ka6sox: 583734 in lkml folder ... should really unsubscribe | 19:12 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps: hmm running connmand results in instantly loosing wlan | 19:29 |
| lbt | yay vbox SDK works with shared folders from 'official' repos :) | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: ah right | 19:30 |
| lbt | ty Sage_ \o/ | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: plasma active/ | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: pester them on how to do it with networkmanager then | 19:30 |
| rcg | Stskeeps: yep, plasma active | 19:30 |
| rcg | will do then ;) | 19:30 |
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| ka6sox | lbt, I should unsub from debian-devel too...some 35k t6here | 19:36 |
| lbt | *g* | 19:37 |
| lbt | stupid virtualbox wiki is readonly even for registered users.... I wonder if that's Oracle community 'cos I had an old account there | 19:39 |
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| lbt | so Stskeeps - I've been thinking that kernel versioning shouldn't include the CI/B CNT values in the module versioning | 19:42 |
| lbt | but then I thought I may be wrong | 19:43 |
| lbt | it's particularly problematic when the /lib/modules/kernel* is different | 19:43 |
| lbt | and it's a pita when I branch or copy packages | 19:43 |
| lbt | Sage_ too ^^ | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i disagree | 19:44 |
| lbt | OTOH when everything is neat and tidy it works | 19:44 |
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| lbt | do you disagree with me being right or me being wrong? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | i disagree that kernel versioning shouldn't include CI/B CNT values in module versioning | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | CI it definately needs to include | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | as ABI can change massively | 19:45 |
| lbt | well - I wondered about having 3.0.0.module_ver | 19:45 |
| lbt | so module_ver could change whilst branching of kernel allowed co-existance of modules | 19:46 |
| Sage_ | lbt: if you branch you have different build and you should rebuild also all modules | 19:46 |
| lbt | right - for us in the open that's easy | 19:46 |
| lbt | a vendor may have more issues | 19:46 |
| Sage_ | why? | 19:46 |
| lbt | eg they may have a subcon making modules | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i can only say that after dealing with hardware adaptation for this long, you only really want to accept modules that are built against the exact kernel you're using | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | so that's my reasoning | 19:47 |
| Sage_ | lbt: well then that vendor can drop those from the packaging. It is only a _template_ after all. But for us in the open we shouldn't stop using that | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | there can be miles of ABI difference within a CI_CNT and no, a kernel developer or config modifier won't care about a module_ver to adjust | 19:47 |
| lbt | OK - I wanted to raise it as I can clearly see the value of it for images - but it felt like it could be problematic in other areas | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | as well as .B will matter with toolchain differences | 19:48 |
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| lbt | there can also be no difference in ABI for a huge config change | 19:48 |
| lbt | eg a CI that enables a module build | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | so, if there's a problem about CI_CNT.B_CNT and modules getting installed into the right paths, it should be fixed on module packaging side | 19:48 |
| lbt | so ... just saying that it works both ways | 19:48 |
| lbt | right - but if the modules are not in the same OBS... | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | it still needs to build against kernel development headers | 19:49 |
| lbt | so ... mainly raising it for a quick discussion ... not pushing it | 19:49 |
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| Stskeeps | why did we disable config_modversions, btw? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:49 |
| lbt | yes - but the old -devel could trivially be compatible | 19:49 |
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| lbt | dunno - I think I just (re-)enabled it | 19:50 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: don't ask me I didn't care atm. as you said also just accept it ;) | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | mmkay | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | i meant on the packaging side, not kernel side, but ok :P | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: anyhow, it should be possible to figure out the right version /path to install a module into | 19:51 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: it is | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: on a sidenote, when did i sign up for dcp spamming me daily? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:51 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: comes with the territory in case I get run over | 19:52 |
| lbt | Sage_: only if modules are built *after* kernel | 19:52 |
| lbt | (I think) | 19:52 |
| lbt | ie my asian subcon makes some modules for me ... takes em a week to turnaround a new build | 19:52 |
| lbt | I enable a new USB module and rebuild the kernel | 19:53 |
| lbt | can I install the old modules package? | 19:53 |
| lbt | that's what crossed my mind... that's all | 19:53 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: nb the disable config_modversions ... you're happy we now have MODVERSIONS=y ? | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: you're free to enable that as an option but i don't see any reason for us to increase QA risk when things may randomly break | 19:54 |
| Sage_ | lbt: if it takes week them to recompile there is job for you to go and show them how it is done ;) | 19:54 |
| lbt | Sage_: :P | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: but that option should be default off | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ie, the "let's ignore ci_cnt and b_cnt" | 19:55 |
| lbt | it still requires --force on modprobe | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps | it should only require --force if you have built your modules against a kernel you're not actually running | 19:56 |
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| lbt | well, that was my point. | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | long story short: if you want an option in template packaging that disables CI_CNT.B_CNT from paths and in the kernel versioning, you can do that, but it has to be default off | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | and ideally hidden in a basement next to a sign saying 'beware of the leopard' | 19:59 |
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| lbt | *nod* ... I really just wanted this discussion in case it was something we thought may be worth exploring - I'm happy with the result :) | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | also, there should really be a leopard | 20:01 |
| * lbt has a kitten that has a tiger nose ... is that close enough? | 20:02 | |
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| Kelteseth | hi | 20:15 |
| ka6sox | lbt, I think he wants to warn us about the Grue too... | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | lo Kelteseth | 20:16 |
| Kelteseth | I'm just testing a IRC APP for my Android phone :) | 20:17 |
| ka6sox | Kelteseth, which one? | 20:17 |
| Kelteseth | yaaci | 20:17 |
| Kelteseth | the other Androidirc did not worked | 20:18 |
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| lbt | Kelteseth: OSS? got a package | 20:18 |
| Kelteseth | OSS? | 20:19 |
| lbt | GPL | 20:19 |
| lbt | ish | 20:19 |
| Kelteseth | Im not sure what you want to tell me ;) | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:20 |
| lbt | sorry, I'm asking if it's opensource and if it is do you have a link to a package | 20:20 |
| Kelteseth | I have an Android phone... Give me a sec and i will search for it ;) | 20:21 |
| Kelteseth | yes it open source yaaic.org | 20:23 |
| lbt | ta | 20:23 |
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| Kelteseth | Bye | 20:24 |
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| Stskeeps | arr.. so good: inbox zero on both company and private mail | 20:32 |
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| felipec | Stskeeps: and your to-do folder is huge now? that usually happens to me =/ | 20:36 |
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| Stskeeps | felipec: not extremely, for once | 20:38 |
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| Stskeeps | i don't mind a lot of incoming tasks, as long as i can keep my mind free of them :P | 20:39 |
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| mikhas | ah felipec o/ | 20:53 |
| felipec | mikhas: hi there :) | 20:55 |
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| rcg | Sage_: i successfully built usb-modeswitch and wvdial including dependencies, should i push some/all of these to some official mer repo? like CE:MW:Shared? | 21:02 |
| rcg | background is that i am trying to get a umts usb stick to work (under plasma active) | 21:03 |
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| Sage_ | rcg: you should contribute to the plasmaactive repositories and talk to their channel about those. Mainly I'm saying this as Mer and Nemo are officially using ofono as the cellular backend and accepting those would be duplicated work. | 21:09 |
| phaeron | Sage_: usb-modeswitch might actually be needed | 21:11 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: true | 21:12 |
| phaeron | for PA they probably use modem-manager not wvdial , as it integrates with network-manager | 21:12 |
| rcg | phaeron: they indeed use modem-manager and network-manager | 21:13 |
| rcg | i just compiled wvdial for testing purposes | 21:13 |
| rcg | but what about usb-modeswitch? | 21:13 |
| rcg | i could as well just push this | 21:14 |
| phaeron | imho it would be useful at least in x86-adaptation | 21:14 |
| rcg | well, i can just file two SRs for usb-modeswitch and its -data package, just in case.. you can still reject it if you do not need it | 21:15 |
| rcg | ok? | 21:15 |
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| Sage_ | sure, can't say anything about accepting yet though. | 21:16 |
| rcg | i see, it's just that i am on it right now, so its not much additional work on my side | 21:17 |
| rcg | on the other hand i don't want to spam you with SRs ;) | 21:17 |
| phaeron | rcg: one request for the two packages osc creq --help | 21:17 |
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| rcg | ah, damn.. was too quick. sorry phaeron, already filed these via the web frontend | 21:19 |
| Sage_ | personally I would say that usb-modeswitch might go to mer core actually not to nemo but needs to be evaluated. Nobody has tested that yet thus it haven't been discussed | 21:19 |
| rcg | next time i'll try to do it in one | 21:19 |
| Sage_ | rcg: well both were declined by automatic review ;) | 21:20 |
| Sage_ | so you have a change to use creq ;) | 21:20 |
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| rcg | ah right, got a second try then ;) | 21:20 |
| rcg | yep, will do :) | 21:21 |
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| rcg | btw. Sage_ it says the changelog is not well formed.. could you just give me a quick hint what's wrong here.. i am comparing it to http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines#Changelogs but somehow don't happen to see the problem | 21:22 |
| rcg | ah.. am missing the '-' between email and version | 21:23 |
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| rcg | nvm | 21:24 |
| Sage_ | rcg: also drop %clean from packages | 21:24 |
| Sage_ | rcg: and if you are using udevadm in post and postun you need to require the binary with Requires(post): and Requires(postun): | 21:25 |
| Sage_ | to make sure it is available when it is called | 21:25 |
| rcg | i see, thanks :) | 21:25 |
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| Sage_ | rcg: echo nameserver 193.210.19.19 > /etc/resolv.conf | 21:26 |
| Sage_ | route add default gw 192.168.2.14 | 21:26 |
| Sage_ | pah | 21:26 |
| Sage_ | rcg: +%define source_nameusb-modeswitch-data | 21:26 |
| Sage_ | rcg: no need for that either you can juse just %{name} as it is same | 21:26 |
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| Sage_ | rcg: also check if you could build it with libusb1 instead of libusb | 21:28 |
| Sage_ | also run spectacle for the usb-modeswitch package as it has .yaml file | 21:29 |
| rcg | roger that, will do | 21:29 |
| Sage_ | in usb-modeswitch there is duplicated install %make_install does almost everything and those manual install/cp/mkdir stuff could probably all be removed | 21:31 |
| Sage_ | or most of them at least | 21:31 |
| Sage_ | \o/ there is "jim" folder inside usb-modeswitch package (cc: Stskeeps, lbt, w00t) ;) | 21:32 |
| lbt | ROFL | 21:32 |
| w00t | oh god | 21:32 |
| rcg | uhm, well, what does that mean? | 21:33 |
| Sage_ | inside joke ;) | 21:33 |
| rcg | i just got those packages from build.meego.com | 21:33 |
| rcg | i see | 21:33 |
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| rcg | Sage_: alright, tried to fix everything you mentioned | 22:00 |
| rcg | but compiling against libusb1 didn't work out of the box so i reverted back to libusb | 22:01 |
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| deztructor | hyvä yöta :) | 22:07 |
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| ljp | hmmm | 23:57 |
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