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| deztructor | morning | 05:12 |
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| E-P | Morning | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | morn E-P :) | 05:35 |
| timoph | o/ | 05:36 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | timoph, E-P: was there any discussion of how testdata made it onto device? | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | let's say, for image tests | 05:55 |
| timoph | at least I can't remember us discussing that | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | because we have a huuge collection of testdata, and i wondered how it was coming into the images | 05:56 |
| timoph | but yeah. should be discussed | 05:56 |
| timoph | media data? | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://testdata.meego.com/ | 05:57 |
| timoph | yep | 05:57 |
| timoph | packaging is obviously not the solution for that | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | +1 | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | imaging is just an area i'd very much like to stress test, considering the optimizations we have available, so | 05:59 |
| timoph | somehow we should be able to define different sets of data and install those easily | 05:59 |
| timoph | with and without automation | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps something for the image creation "%post --nochroot" section? | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | ie, copy in test data post package installation | 06:00 |
| timoph | should work | 06:00 |
| timoph | but I'd like to be able to easily turn any image into a testable image | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | true | 06:01 |
| timoph | for making reproducing things easy | 06:01 |
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| timoph | so I was thinking about a small cli application that can be used to list the content and download stuff | 06:02 |
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| timoph | but that's really just a convenience thing | 06:04 |
| E-P | in Meego we had to use packaging, but it is painful | 06:05 |
| E-P | and not recommendable | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, and nothing i'd like to put on obs either | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: i'm going to pull some of your stuff into Mer:QA:Tests:Testing , any objections? | 06:06 |
| E-P | no, go ahead | 06:06 |
| E-P | for test data, we had a feature in old test automation that uploaded needed data to the device before executions | 06:07 |
| E-P | that was before OTS | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | do we have any explicit reasoning for QA:Tests and QA:Tools being seperate? | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | just out of curiousity | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | seeing mwts-common and min in QA:Tools | 06:08 |
| E-P | mwts-common and min are not tests, they are test frameworks | 06:09 |
| E-P | nothing else | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:09 |
| E-P | you can combine them if it makes maintenance easier | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | might.. | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: can i ask you to SR testplanner to Mer:Tools:Testing ? | 06:10 |
| timoph | hmmh. should adding test data happen during image creation or after it and on-device or pushed in from external machice | 06:10 |
| timoph | or do we need to support all of above | 06:11 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: my version from home:timoph ? | 06:11 |
| E-P | for test automation during the image creation is fine, if doing manual/semi-manual testing then the user can use wget :) | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: yeah | 06:11 |
| timoph | a sec | 06:11 |
| E-P | should testplanner be in mer:tools? | 06:12 |
| E-P | plaah | 06:12 |
| timoph | :) | 06:12 |
| E-P | should learn to read | 06:13 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: 6853 | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 06:14 |
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| Stskeeps | huomenta jukka | 06:20 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, huomenta | 06:41 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you kick http://review.merproject.org/#change,898 | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: when you've made images of -next ;p | 07:25 |
| Sage_ | hah.. :) | 07:26 |
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| Stskeeps | pohly: new job? | 07:27 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: E-P: could i potentially use $HOME in a tests.xml? | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | ah, looks like it's feasible | 07:40 |
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| lbt | morning all | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 07:53 |
| Sage_ | g8 | 07:53 |
| * lbt has a nice VM SDK running | 07:54 | |
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| Sage_ | we have over 30 +1 things in mer review already which could be pushed as a release straight after the current one :) | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:02 |
| lbt | it's been a while since we've had our tue releases meeting too | 08:02 |
| lbt | a long while | 08:02 |
| Sage_ | merge all and push prerelease when archs are built? | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: let's have one today then | 08:03 |
| lbt | good idea ... why didn't I think of that :) | 08:03 |
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| Sage_ | lbt, Stskeeps: 12:00 UTC? | 08:03 |
| lbt | now +3hr | 08:03 |
| lbt | err now+4hr ? | 08:04 |
| Sage_ | yes :) | 08:04 |
| Sage_ | the normal time that is ;) | 08:05 |
| Sage_ | err... 11:00 UTC was the normal time | 08:05 |
| Sage_ | well anyway around that | 08:05 |
| lbt | yeah , normal time was 11UTC | 08:06 |
| lbt | lets aim for that (and keep 12UTC in reserve :) | 08:06 |
| lbt | damn... seagate are saying my RMA didn't arrive | 08:07 |
| mikhas | you have noone doing the reviews? | 08:08 |
| lbt | mikhas: it's done by volunteers with time and self-assessed competence | 08:09 |
| mikhas | but it's becoming a bottleneck, right? | 08:09 |
| lbt | yes | 08:09 |
| lbt | one thing that is problematic is that we're still blocked on automation | 08:10 |
| mikhas | how about a "Mer needs your review skillz" post on planet.maemo.org? | 08:10 |
| lbt | so the regression builds are done but not image builds | 08:10 |
| lbt | mikhas: err, no :) | 08:10 |
| mikhas | wrong audience? | 08:10 |
| mikhas | =p | 08:10 |
| lbt | yeah | 08:10 |
| lbt | nemo image bug hunting - sure | 08:11 |
| lbt | but this is more core platform http://review.merproject.org/#q,status:open,n,z | 08:11 |
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| mikhas | some of them look as if you'd only need enough people to try out images (if you could easily create them, see above) | 08:14 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: at some point can you add a documentation to (internal?) wiki about how to kick boss to re-review a change (eg 641) | 08:14 |
| lbt | mikhas: agreed - I got our image builder working a couple of weeks ago | 08:14 |
| lbt | and installed a new boss vm | 08:15 |
| lbt | but not had time to look at the automation steps | 08:15 |
| lbt | morning phako | 08:16 |
| phako | o/ | 08:16 |
| lbt | morning phaeron I mean :) | 08:16 |
| lbt | but phako too :) | 08:16 |
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| phaeron | lbt: morning | 08:18 |
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| * lbt just comments that he's planning to copy suse virtualbox code from https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=virtualbox&project=openSUSE%3AFactory and then use that as the basis for building the kernel module | 09:29 | |
| lbt | 4.1.18 (latest is 4.2.0 iirc but fedora also ship 4.1.18 ) | 09:30 |
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| faenil | heya everyone! o/ | 09:33 |
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| kontio | mardy, I get http://pastebin.com/eWK4JSL8 with simple 'qmake signon.pro; make', I can fix it with adding a "#include <QDebug" to remotepluginprocess.cpp - I just wonder why nobody else run into that earlier with the latest tar ball signon-8.43.tar.bz2 ? | 10:07 |
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| mardy | kontio: weird! Indeed, that include is missing, it should be in debug.h | 10:33 |
| mardy | kontio: could you please push a branch with the suggested fix, for review? | 10:34 |
| kontio | mardy, sure I can do that... | 10:35 |
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| kontio | mardy, the include inside the "ifdef DEBUG_ENABLED" ? | 10:37 |
| kontio | no I guess outside... | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | hello mike_123 | 10:58 |
| mike_123 | hello | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | mike_123: so what brings you here to #mer ? | 10:59 |
| mike_123 | searching news about Jolla project | 11:00 |
| mike_123 | what is done, what is to be done and what i could do about it | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | merproject - best is to use the mer bugtracker and search for tasks and bugs | 11:01 |
| mike_123 | yes, i was looking here and htere :) | 11:02 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: how's images doing? | 11:25 |
| Sage_ | uploading http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120920.0.2.NEMO.2012-10-02.1/images/ | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | k | 11:26 |
| Sage_ | some ready though | 11:26 |
| Sage_ | i486 vm going atm. | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | k | 11:27 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: what's the kosher way to add Mer:Tools:Testing in an sdk? | 11:32 |
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| lbt | I'd like to have a rolling release of Mer:Tools with latest versions of stuff and then named SDK releases as now | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:35 |
| lbt | but that's after we've done a validation in MTT ... | 11:35 |
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| lbt | so MTT is just zypper ar the OBS repo - but really that's just to get a quick sanity check before it goes into MT | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | how big is the delta atm? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:36 |
| lbt | almost zero | 11:36 |
| lbt | I want to do a cron report of phaeron's repodiff | 11:36 |
| lbt | right now I'm staring at the virtualbox spec and about to get whisky | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so my interest especially is testrunner-ui | 11:37 |
| lbt | *nod* | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ah, i'm glad you're reaching same conclusion | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: as QA is something i'm trying to break some additional ground in | 11:37 |
| lbt | right | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | so any chance of that making it into Tools? | 11:38 |
| lbt | so phdeswer is also due a chat on Mer:Tools process in about an hour | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:38 |
| phdeswer | Yes let's kill a number of birds with one stone. | 11:39 |
| phdeswer | With disclaimer for animal lovers: no birds will be hurt in this discussion. | 11:39 |
| kontio | mardy, let me know if something is not according to your process/templates, I'm not used to them yet :-) but I created a code review request: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/issues/detail?id=113 | 11:40 |
| lbt | *g* | 11:40 |
| * lbt started this morning on QtCreator... | 11:40 | |
| lbt | rabbithole went into building virtualbox this time... | 11:41 |
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| Stskeeps | moin kyyberi | 11:42 |
| mardy | kontio: thanks, looks good to me. I'll wait some time to see if others have different opinions, and then I'll merge it | 11:44 |
| kontio | mardy, ok | 11:44 |
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| lbt | added another minor comment to the wiki login screen to say "use username, not email" :) | 11:51 |
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| Stskeeps | "what's my username" | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | has come up | 11:52 |
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| lbt | yeah - I need a hack to bz to display that somewhere | 11:59 |
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| lbt | w00t: did you get chance to verify if https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580 is a regression ? | 12:04 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 580 in qt5 "pkg-config clashes with Qt Mobility" [Normal,New] | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | it's definately something that existed already with alpha | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | 1 | 12:05 |
| lbt | OK | 12:05 |
| Bostik | distinct QtMobility is qt4.x only, qt5 has split much of mobility into more sensible parts | 12:06 |
| Bostik | of that I'm pretty sure | 12:06 |
| Bostik | location -> qtlocation; multimedia stuff -> qtmultimedia, connectivity the same, and I think mobility even had some sensor stuff in it too | 12:07 |
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| w00t | lbt: not actual verification, but i don't see how it wouldn't have happened before | 12:07 |
| lbt | removed release blocker flag | 12:08 |
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| lbt | o/ | 13:08 |
| phdeswer | ok. Ready? | 13:08 |
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| lbt | yes | 13:10 |
| phdeswer | Ok. Well I guess Stskeeps will join in when needed | 13:10 |
| lbt | yep | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | i'm here.. | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | i'm -always- here | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:10 |
| lbt | 's true | 13:11 |
| phdeswer | :_ | 13:11 |
| phdeswer | Well the first open issue here is how to submit things. lbt suggested github + pull requests | 13:11 |
| lbt | yep | 13:11 |
| lbt | the objective is to have git repos which correspond to packages | 13:12 |
| lbt | github is not my favourite solution but it'll do... eventually we will move to a mer-hosted one | 13:12 |
| phdeswer | So we need to create them. As currently there is some stuff on gitweb (?) but a number there of the dirs is empty. | 13:13 |
| lbt | correct, gitweb is gerrit which isn't quite right for some of our tools | 13:14 |
| phdeswer | So we will need a few people to maintain the stuff. And eventually have repo/package maintainers somehow. | 13:14 |
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| lbt | well, I mainly see it as having somewhere to run a simple process | 13:16 |
| lbt | I'm happy to maintain it | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | we also need to think of a scalable process as you don't scale, as well | 13:17 |
| phdeswer | Indeed. Which is why I suggested there would be a repo maintainer. Which can deal with creating new "packages" | 13:18 |
| phdeswer | And package maintainers which can be different for each of those. | 13:18 |
| lbt | agreed... but step 1... make it easier for me to just ack and push | 13:19 |
| lbt | and allow people to actually make changes | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:19 |
| lbt | also... get stuff into git | 13:20 |
| phdeswer | True. So I guess we just need to get stuff set-up in github. The pull request stuff is well documented there. So that should not be hard | 13:20 |
| lbt | *nod* | 13:21 |
| lbt | and "use gitpkg" is the policy | 13:21 |
| phdeswer | No issues with that. Especially since it is now installable in the SDK (as I read earlier today) | 13:21 |
| lbt | ie submit a git tree and some packaging | 13:21 |
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| lbt | http://www.merproject.org/Mer_Tools_Status.txt | 13:22 |
| lbt | crontab update every 10m | 13:22 |
| lbt | hence minor distraction here | 13:23 |
| phdeswer | Ok. | 13:23 |
| phdeswer | Well then there were some other open issues: Upstream not using git. | 13:24 |
| lbt | so that gets changes to github - they then need to be pushed to M:T:T for a build test so at the same time as a pull should come an OBS SR | 13:24 |
| phdeswer | And how do we know which git tag/version is being used | 13:24 |
| lbt | upstream not using git is fine - we import tarballs and use pristine tar | 13:24 |
| lbt | and that is the backup for any other issues too | 13:24 |
| lbt | eg no tags etc | 13:25 |
| lbt | and we discuss/resolve issues as they arise | 13:25 |
| lbt | that OK? | 13:25 |
| phdeswer | ok. | 13:25 |
| phdeswer | So guess we need to start with the action points then. (Unless Stskeeps has something to add?) | 13:26 |
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| Stskeeps | nop | 13:26 |
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| phdeswer | Ok I already packaged powertop with git-pkg. So I guess we should try to use the new way and document it on the go. | 13:28 |
| lbt | sure | 13:28 |
| phdeswer | lbt, you can create the new repo? Then I will send a pul request? | 13:28 |
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| phdeswer | Grrr. and fix my wiki access? I can login onto the mer bugzilla but same credentials don't work on the mer wiki. | 13:29 |
| lbt | did you read the new login msg? | 13:29 |
| lbt | specially for you :) | 13:30 |
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| phdeswer | lbt, tried that too, or I completely forgot my username | 13:30 |
| lbt | hmm | 13:30 |
| lbt | sec | 13:30 |
| lbt | ldap browser is eclipse/java and is slooooow | 13:31 |
| phdeswer | lbt, ok forget it. Worked now. Seems there might have been some delay as to be sure I updated my password | 13:31 |
| phdeswer | in bugzilla | 13:31 |
| lbt | ~10m passwd sync | 13:32 |
| phdeswer | Ok. So drop me a line when you added the github stuff | 13:33 |
| lbt | done - not sure how to handle initial repo | 13:33 |
| phdeswer | Did I miss something for the test builds to M:T:T? | 13:33 |
| lbt | I may need to clone + push | 13:33 |
| phdeswer | Yeah push the old stuff that is already there. | 13:34 |
| lbt | yes, ideally you branch from MTT and use that to do a local build | 13:34 |
| lbt | and then push to cobs so I see the build results on the SR | 13:35 |
| lbt | the SR should reference the github pull request I think | 13:35 |
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| lbt | I think you need to fork to do a pull don't you | 13:36 |
| lbt | so this process is not so good for first commit | 13:36 |
| lbt | instead I think you get me to clone your repo to mer-tools | 13:36 |
| phdeswer | sec, the branch mentioned earlier here is from the git repo right? | 13:36 |
| lbt | sadly we have to do this in parallel | 13:37 |
| lbt | one branch/fork is for the source | 13:37 |
| lbt | the other is for the build | 13:37 |
| lbt | like Mer Core | 13:37 |
| phdeswer | you're getting me completely confused now :) | 13:37 |
| lbt | yeah | 13:37 |
| lbt | OBS is a build system | 13:38 |
| lbt | it's not a VCS | 13:38 |
| lbt | but people act like it is | 13:38 |
| lbt | so... we use github to manage code | 13:38 |
| lbt | so we fork from github | 13:38 |
| lbt | ideally this would automatically branch at cobs... but it doesn't | 13:38 |
| lbt | so at the same time we branch the M:T:T package at cobs | 13:39 |
| lbt | now we hack | 13:39 |
| phdeswer | ok. | 13:39 |
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| lbt | we push to our branch to validate it builds | 13:39 |
| lbt | it does | 13:39 |
| lbt | we commit to github | 13:39 |
| lbt | now we do a pull req at guthub | 13:40 |
| lbt | and for my convenience, an SR at COBS | 13:40 |
| phdeswer | Ah so pull req + SR | 13:40 |
| lbt | the SR at COBS allows me to validate the build succeeded | 13:40 |
| lbt | ideally I'd disregard it and pull from github to M:T:T | 13:41 |
| lbt | not sure - but that sounds sensible | 13:41 |
| phdeswer | Ok. Now I follow again. I thought for a sec that the pull request would somehow trigger an automatic build in cobs | 13:41 |
| lbt | then if it builds it gets promoted to M:T | 13:41 |
| lbt | would be nice eh? | 13:41 |
| lbt | and frankly shouldn't be a killer to setup | 13:42 |
| lbt | I'm trying to think of automation as we discuss process | 13:42 |
| phdeswer | Yep that would be nice indeed. | 13:42 |
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| lbt | where is your repo on github | 13:44 |
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| phdeswer | I only have it locally atm | 13:45 |
| lbt | OK | 13:45 |
| phdeswer | Since I also first pulled from gitweb | 13:45 |
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| lbt | ah, misunderstood - my bad | 13:46 |
| phdeswer | So I guess I am off to fork the github one (which is where?) Then add mine and send the pull request. And do an SR in cobs | 13:46 |
| * lbt is confused - I don't see it on gitweb | 13:46 | |
| lbt | I think you pulled from cobs | 13:48 |
| phdeswer | Yep I did. Sorry. Got confused in the end with all the repos. | 13:48 |
| lbt | np | 13:48 |
| lbt | so yes, make yourself a repo on github and push it there | 13:48 |
| lbt | then I'll clone that | 13:49 |
| phdeswer | Now I have to remember my github account details :) | 13:50 |
| andre__ | hmm, merproject.org is down? | 13:50 |
| lbt | *g* | 13:50 |
| lbt | andre__: mmm | 13:50 |
| andre__ | argh, I tried https:// | 13:50 |
| andre__ | I see | 13:51 |
| lbt | www is about the only non https | 13:51 |
| lbt | however I'm migrating domain to new registrar so keeping a close eye | 13:51 |
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| phdeswer | lbt, pushed to https://github.com/philippedeswert/powertop.git | 13:57 |
| lbt | offs | 13:57 |
| lbt | those wusses lost the "hard core forking action" :( | 13:57 |
| lbt | https://github.com/mer-tools/powertop | 13:58 |
| lbt | so ... don't have the tarball in the git | 13:58 |
| lbt | this isn't Mer Core you know ... we do things right! | 13:59 |
| phdeswer | lbt, so then we get back to my issue how cobs will know where to build from... | 13:59 |
| lbt | you run gp_make_src in the cobs dir and push the tarball there | 14:00 |
| lbt | nb ... this is all very incremental... it will fit together later | 14:00 |
| phdeswer | Ok. Will delete the tarball then now. And add a mental not to that weirdness with git-pkg :) | 14:00 |
| phdeswer | And answers my question how git-pkg would help to remove the tarball from git :) | 14:02 |
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| lbt | delete the repo and repush too | 14:03 |
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| lbt | you should also have the spec/changes/yaml/_src in the pkg-mer branch and the code in the master | 14:05 |
| lbt | if you used pristine tar you should be sure to push that branch too | 14:05 |
| phdeswer | lbt ok repo deleted and you managed to totally confuse me now with your last comments. | 14:06 |
| phdeswer | Which branch? | 14:07 |
| phdeswer | And what is the code? | 14:07 |
| lbt | gitpkg should give you 2 or 3 branches | 14:07 |
| lbt | normally 2 | 14:07 |
| phdeswer | You expect me to have the full upstream repo there? | 14:07 |
| phdeswer | With the pkg-mer branch? | 14:07 |
| lbt | of course! | 14:07 |
| lbt | the point is to have the full upstream repo available to encourage and support contributions etc | 14:08 |
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| phdeswer | Well that was not obvious :) | 14:08 |
| lbt | OK | 14:08 |
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| lbt | phdeswer: need to pop out for a while now ... I'll be back later - I'll write some of this up in the wiki too | 14:11 |
| phdeswer | Ok. I will be oo also for a bit | 14:11 |
| lbt | explaining this is very useful for me too - so thanks for persevering | 14:12 |
| * Stskeeps isn't terribly convinced from a mer-core pov, just as a note | 14:12 | |
| Stskeeps | but let's see how it goes | 14:12 |
| lbt | it's essentially the same process | 14:12 |
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| lbt | fork osc; fork git; push osc watch it build; push git; pickup, build, verify, accept | 14:13 |
| lbt | the only difference is that gitpkg pushes to 2 branches and has the entire tree in git - and it's not got the automated pull when a push happens | 14:14 |
| lbt | anyhow ... bbiab | 14:14 |
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| phdeswer | lbt pushed. Hope this time it is how you expect it to be ;) | 14:18 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Bet1nh0 | 14:24 |
| Bet1nh0 | hello Stskeeps | 14:24 |
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| Stskeeps | Bet1nh0: welcome to #mer :) sow hat brings you here? | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | er, so what brings you here, i mean | 14:25 |
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| Bet1nh0 | Well... I'm a developer... I own a N9 and I would like to contribute to MER project | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | sure :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | Bet1nh0: no problem | 14:30 |
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| djszapi | Hi! Is there a way of detecting if one is inside sb2? | 14:32 |
| djszapi | like we had _SBOX_DIR for sb1? | 14:32 |
| alterego | djszapi: sb2 /usr/bin/env | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | SBOX_SESSION_DIR maybe | 14:35 |
| alterego | shows a load of SBOX specific environment variables, even some related to the currently executing process. May be useful ;) | 14:35 |
| djszapi | there are problems with the Qt5 V8 build under qemu as it runs a jit code which makes qemu crash, so probably examining a qemu variable would be nicer, but that is how it is now done for configure with sb1 | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: harmattan builds aren't using sb2 | 14:40 |
| djszapi | sb1? | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | neither, read up on binfmt_misc | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | and uses a static qemu-arm binary emulator | 14:41 |
| djszapi | ah! Thanks for sharing that info! | 14:42 |
| djszapi | I will document it. | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | which is why they're so damn slow | 14:42 |
| djszapi | so you have built the V8 (qt5-jsbackend) for mer. | 14:42 |
| djszapi | you did not get a crash for qemu? | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes, though mer uses sb2, and a modern qemu | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | the qemu in harmattan is probably old | 14:42 |
| alterego | very old I'd imagine | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | or rather, in the harmattan obs builds | 14:43 |
| djszapi | can it be updated? | 14:44 |
| djszapi | which version is it? | 14:45 |
| alterego | Well, your best bet is finding that out yourself, this is #mer afterall not #harmattan. | 14:45 |
| alterego | I'm not sure I have a harmattan toolchain installed anyway anymore. | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: you probably have to inject in a /usr/bin/qemu-arm and /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static | 14:46 |
| djszapi | the problem si that #harmattan does not own the harmattan part of the build farm. | 14:46 |
| djszapi | is* | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: and you can inject that through your own project config | 14:46 |
| alterego | Oh, you're using cobs? | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | look at mer's package for qemu-arm-static and copy that binary to both | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | paths | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | and make it Preinstall: in project config | 14:47 |
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| djszapi | alterego: yes, it crashes on the community OBS | 14:47 |
| djszapi | locally it was all fine because _SBOX_DIR was present which was admittedly a hack in the qt project xD | 14:48 |
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| alterego | They do love their macros ;) | 14:48 |
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| djszapi | Stskeeps: thanks, I will take a look at that. | 14:49 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: kick http://review.merproject.org/898 | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: done | 15:02 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: also http://review.merproject.org/#change,880 http://review.merproject.org/851 http://review.merproject.org/853 and http://review.merproject.org/844 | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | oh for.. | 15:03 |
| * Stskeeps notes sage_ knows to strike when the iron is hot | 15:03 | |
| Sage_ | well I'm not checking the older ones but I guess there is more ;) | 15:04 |
| Sage_ | also can you abandon some changes so those get out of the way? | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | done | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | yes, which ones? | 15:04 |
| Sage_ | http://review.merproject.org/651 http://review.merproject.org/650 at least | 15:05 |
| Sage_ | and http://review.merproject.org/#change,652 | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | done | 15:06 |
| Sage_ | thx | 15:06 |
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| * Sage_ updates couple of his old submits to get them out of -1 | 15:06 | |
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| Sage_ | after pushing next test to n950 | 15:06 |
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| Sage_ | ok, so touch isn't working on my n950 on next mer | 15:17 |
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| Stskeeps | this day just keeps on giving | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: check mer changelog, libXi in there? | 15:18 |
| Sage_ | it is there | 15:18 |
| Sage_ | your doings ;) | 15:19 |
| * Sage_ install old libXi and tries | 15:19 | |
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| Sage_ | with libXi 1.5.0 works with the 1.6.1 submitted doesn't | 15:22 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ^ (cc: w00t) | 15:22 |
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| w00t | yeesh... | 15:22 |
| Sage_ | I recalled w00t doing something with touch at some point :) | 15:23 |
| w00t | i don't know what that could be, but I'm cloning libxi to see if there's anything in commit logs | 15:24 |
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| w00t | surprisingly few commits (good) | 15:24 |
| w00t | Implement support for XI 2.2 | 15:25 |
| w00t | that's a little worrying in that i wonder what it did to the custom touch stuff we have | 15:25 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: otherwise the n950 seems ok (slow but ok) | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: install xinput tool? | 15:28 |
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| Sage_ | anyone with exopc could check if touch there is fine? and n900? | 15:30 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: where do we have that tool? | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: steal it from meego | 15:30 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=xorg-x11-utils-xinput&project=home%3Asage%3Agn | 15:31 |
| Sage_ | have it in my repo ;) | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:31 |
| Sage_ | [nemo@localhost ~]$ /usr/bin/xinput list --long | 15:32 |
| Sage_ | XI2 not supported. | 15:32 |
| Sage_ | with old libXi though | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | uhhh | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | can you try with newer libxi? | 15:32 |
| Sage_ | sure | 15:32 |
| Sage_ | without reboot same thing at least rebooting to verify | 15:33 |
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| Sage_ | err same thing | 15:35 |
| Sage_ | can't even list devices | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | revert time it is.. | 15:37 |
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| fk_lx | hi all | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | lo fk_lx | 15:39 |
| lbt | yell as soon as you need a pre-rel :) | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | i need a pre-martini | 15:39 |
| Sage_ | we really need to get that libXi checked soonish before it becomes issue for adaptations etc. | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | bug | 15:40 |
| * Sage_ files | 15:41 | |
| Sage_ | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587 | 15:43 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 587 in libXi "Updating libXi breaks touch on N950 (and maybe others)" [Normal,New] | 15:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: i don't have my exo to test with atm | 15:44 |
| Sage_ | I'll check with mine later today then | 15:44 |
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| Kiranos | http://jollatides.com/2012/10/02/jolla-official-press-release-october-2nd-2012/ | 18:02 |
| Kiranos | congrats | 18:02 |
| Kiranos | nice projekt | 18:02 |
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| Stskeeps | Kiranos: thanks, good to get the mer name out there | 18:23 |
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| rubdos | Stskeeps, indeed congrats, I love Jolla. Finally a company that wants to work with FOSS and a community. | 18:33 |
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| _Thomas | Stskeeps: Are any of the key Android-players joining as well? | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not in a position to answer that, but i'm always happy to answer about mer :P | 18:48 |
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| rcg | evening all | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | evening rcg | 18:58 |
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| rcg | i created a number of patches (pretty nasty hacks u | 19:01 |
| rcg | err | 19:01 |
| lpotter | starfish eh? | 19:01 |
| rcg | i created a number of patches (pretty nasty hacks actually), that improve the look and feel of nemo apps on plasma active | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | lpotter: sailfish, but yeah | 19:02 |
| rubdos | lpotter, long live sailfish ;) | 19:02 |
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| lpotter | ya thats what I said sailfish :) | 19:02 |
| * lpotter grabs more coffee | 19:02 | |
| rcg | will write a blog post about this.. however i dunno if this is of general interest | 19:02 |
| timoph | I think Jolla picked Mer for it's base because of the sea theme :p | 19:03 |
| rcg | personally, i am quite happy to have twimgo now being pretty usable on plasma active :) | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: cool | 19:03 |
| Venemo | rcg: what device? | 19:04 |
| rcg | Stskeeps: archos g9 | 19:04 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps: the changes are rather small. but i consider this more like a proof of concept as i assume there could be better ways for implementing this. however, i can send you the link once i wrote the blog entry | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:06 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: about the test data thing. I think we should not think only about media stuff but whatever end user data | 19:06 |
| Venemo | hm | 19:07 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: .doc .xls etc? | 19:07 |
| Venemo | just noticed, there's archos gen10 now? | 19:07 |
| timoph | not quite :) | 19:07 |
| timoph | contacts, calendar, etc. | 19:07 |
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| timoph | not really base testing but I bet something vendors would like to see | 19:07 |
| timoph | pluggable tool for importing test data. media and whatever | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:08 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: when is the new prerelease ready? :) | 19:09 |
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| sivang | Sage_: it's out already no? :) | 19:10 |
| sivang | ah, new | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: when it has stopped fighting with the other builds you asked me for | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:10 |
| Sage_ | hah :D | 19:10 |
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| Venemo | hm | 19:30 |
| Venemo | archos gen10 is still omap4 | 19:30 |
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| Venemo | but it looks way too awesome | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | pretty top of the line in omap? | 19:31 |
| lbt | phaeron: we're getting lots of those segfaults again on the cobs workers | 19:31 |
| lbt | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped | 19:31 |
| lbt | last time it was some missing repo... this time they look like they're OK | 19:32 |
| lbt | Project:KDE:Trunk though | 19:32 |
| phaeron | lbt: hmm qemu ? | 19:32 |
| * phaeron has amnesia | 19:32 | |
| lbt | https://gist.github.com/3822762 | 19:33 |
| phaeron | lbt: check if they are zombie jobs | 19:34 |
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| lbt | it looks like many of that project's packages are dying | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | what arcrepo? | 19:42 |
| Bostik | ? | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | what repo | 19:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: last time there were no repos in the first place | 19:42 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/repositories?package=rlog&project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk | 19:43 |
| lbt | Project_KDE_Mer_Extras_CE_MW_Shared_Mer_Core-next_armv7hl ans 7l | 19:43 |
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| lbt | yep - the repos have been deleted | 19:46 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk | 19:46 |
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| lbt | sorted | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:53 |
| phaeron | it's weird how these zombie jobs rise from the dead | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | you're on meego obs, this should be business as usual, :P | 19:59 |
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| rcg | phaeron: well, i suppose that's what makes them zombies in the first place? ;P | 20:01 |
| rcg | scnr | 20:01 |
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| phaeron | still doesn't make it logical :D | 20:02 |
| rcg | :) | 20:03 |
| lbt | I think they dropped the repo | 20:05 |
| lbt | which should have killed the jobs | 20:05 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: libxi we need to solve | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: it's a requirement for qt5 | 20:48 |
| Sage_ | ah | 20:48 |
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| Sage_ | welcome to the fight ;) | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it'll be my first item tomorrow | 20:49 |
| lbt | I thought we supported Recommends: | 20:51 |
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| _Thomas | Stskeeps: We just opened up our store for everyone, globally now (and announced that we have secured CE and FCC) | 21:02 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: Anyone with an interest in getting mer up on the device? :) | 21:03 |
| lbt | yay | 21:03 |
| Skry | what device, where? | 21:04 |
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| Stskeeps | _Thomas: congratulations :) | 21:07 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: Thx, now you get someone to port mer on it ;) | 21:10 |
| _Thomas | Skry: http://store.cstick.com -- Cotton Candy | 21:10 |
| Skry | _Thomas: that looks _very_ nice, out of my price range though :) | 21:15 |
| lbt | *nod* | 21:15 |
| lbt | _Thomas: we'd find someone to port Mer to it if you had a dev device for us | 21:16 |
| _Thomas | Might be possible within the next 30-45 days | 21:17 |
| lbt | OK - let me know | 21:17 |
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| Skry | what soc is it using? | 21:18 |
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| _Thomas | Exynos 4210 | 21:19 |
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| Skry | _Thomas: people at arclinuxarm are already waiting for a device :) | 21:30 |
| _Thomas | archlinuxarm, you mean? | 21:30 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, \o | 21:31 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: Hi :) | 21:32 |
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| Skry | _Thomas: yes, sorry for the typo | 21:32 |
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| vgrade | _Thomas, were you planning some devices at reduced price | 21:32 |
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| _Thomas | Skry: #mer is higher up on the priority list of where to give out / sell cheaper dev devices at, if we are doing that | 21:33 |
| _Thomas | vgrade: As of now, no, but it is up for discussion | 21:33 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, ok | 21:33 |
| _Thomas | One solution might be to sell the device as usual, but if an item from a list of tasks is solved by a community member, we might refund the device | 21:34 |
| _Thomas | for instance | 21:34 |
| _Thomas | but we are looking at various options | 21:34 |
| lbt | _Thomas: sounds very sensible indeed | 21:35 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, do you just have an andriod build atm | 21:36 |
| _Thomas | yes | 21:36 |
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| _Thomas | First Ubuntu release is announced for October 12th | 21:36 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, but have access to build some GLES drivers | 21:37 |
| Skry | _Thomas: how many units there are available? If everything goes well I've got a new job this month which would mean more money, so I would be interested to buy one, could have a look at arch linux then, refunds or not. | 21:37 |
| _Thomas | We have source to build all those things | 21:37 |
| vgrade | _Thomas, good to hear | 21:37 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 21:46 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps: http://ruedigergad.com/2012/10/03/nemo-apps-on-plasma-active-improved-look-and-feel/ | 23:25 |
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| rcg | the post is well, it's quite late here and i think you can read this if you look at the post | 23:25 |
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| rcg | however, there are links to the relevant patches | 23:25 |
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| rcg | having said that it's more than time to go to bed for me... xD | 23:30 |
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