Tuesday, 2012-10-02

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E-PMorning05:35
Stskeepsmorn E-P :)05:35
timopho/05:36
Stskeepshmm05:55
Stskeepstimoph, E-P: was there any discussion of how testdata made it onto device?05:55
Stskeepslet's say, for image tests05:55
timophat least I can't remember us discussing that05:56
Stskeepsbecause we have a huuge collection of testdata, and i wondered how it was coming into the images05:56
timophbut yeah. should be discussed05:56
timophmedia data?05:57
Stskeepshttp://testdata.meego.com/05:57
timophyep05:57
timophpackaging is obviously not the solution for that05:57
Stskeeps+105:58
Stskeepsimaging is just an area i'd very much like to stress test, considering the optimizations we have available, so05:59
timophsomehow we should be able to define different sets of data and install those easily05:59
timophwith and without automation06:00
Stskeepsperhaps something for the image creation "%post --nochroot" section?06:00
Stskeepsie, copy in test data post package installation06:00
timophshould work06:00
timophbut I'd like to be able to easily turn any image into a testable image06:00
Stskeepstrue06:01
timophfor making reproducing things easy06:01
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timophso I was thinking about a small cli application that can be used to list the content and download stuff06:02
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timophbut that's really just a convenience thing06:04
E-Pin Meego we had to use packaging, but it is painful06:05
E-Pand not recommendable06:05
Stskeepsyeah, and nothing i'd like to put on obs either06:06
StskeepsE-P: i'm going to pull some of your stuff into Mer:QA:Tests:Testing , any objections?06:06
E-Pno, go ahead06:06
E-Pfor test data, we had a feature in old test automation that uploaded needed data to the device before executions06:07
E-Pthat was before OTS06:08
Stskeepsdo we have any explicit reasoning for QA:Tests and QA:Tools being seperate?06:08
Stskeepsjust out of curiousity06:08
Stskeepsseeing mwts-common and min in QA:Tools06:08
E-Pmwts-common and min are not tests, they are test frameworks06:09
E-Pnothing else06:09
Stskeepsok06:09
E-Pyou can combine them if it makes maintenance easier06:10
Stskeepsmight..06:10
Stskeepstimoph: can i ask you to SR testplanner to Mer:Tools:Testing ?06:10
timophhmmh. should adding test data happen during image creation or after it and on-device or pushed in from external machice06:10
timophor do we need to support all of above06:11
timophStskeeps: my version from home:timoph ?06:11
E-Pfor test automation during the image creation is fine, if doing manual/semi-manual testing then the user can use wget :)06:11
Stskeepstimoph: yeah06:11
timopha sec06:11
E-Pshould testplanner be in mer:tools?06:12
E-Pplaah06:12
timoph:)06:12
E-Pshould learn to read06:13
timophStskeeps: 685306:14
Stskeepsthanks06:14
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Stskeepshuomenta jukka06:20
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jukkaeklundstskeeps, huomenta06:41
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jussidm8tbr: ++06:57
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Sage_Stskeeps: can you kick http://review.merproject.org/#change,89807:25
StskeepsSage_: when you've made images of -next ;p07:25
Sage_hah.. :)07:26
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Stskeepspohly: new job?07:27
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Stskeepstimoph: E-P: could i potentially use $HOME in a tests.xml?07:35
Stskeepsah, looks like it's feasible07:40
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lbtmorning all07:52
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Stskeepsmorn lbt07:53
Sage_g807:53
* lbt has a nice VM SDK running07:54
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Sage_we have over 30 +1 things in mer review already which could be pushed as a release straight after the current one :)08:01
Stskeeps:nod:08:02
lbtit's been a while since we've had our tue releases meeting too08:02
lbta long while08:02
Sage_merge all and push prerelease when archs are built?08:02
Stskeepslbt: let's have one today then08:03
lbtgood idea ... why didn't I think of that :)08:03
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Sage_lbt, Stskeeps: 12:00 UTC?08:03
lbtnow +3hr08:03
lbterr now+4hr ?08:04
Sage_yes :)08:04
Sage_the normal time that is ;)08:05
Sage_err... 11:00 UTC was the normal time08:05
Sage_well anyway around that08:05
lbtyeah , normal time was 11UTC08:06
lbtlets aim for that (and keep 12UTC in reserve :)08:06
lbtdamn... seagate are saying my RMA didn't arrive08:07
mikhasyou have noone doing the reviews?08:08
lbtmikhas: it's done by volunteers with time and self-assessed competence08:09
mikhasbut it's becoming a bottleneck, right?08:09
lbtyes08:09
lbtone thing that is problematic is that we're still blocked on automation08:10
mikhashow about a "Mer needs your review skillz" post on planet.maemo.org?08:10
lbtso the regression builds are done but not image builds08:10
lbtmikhas: err, no :)08:10
mikhaswrong audience?08:10
mikhas=p08:10
lbtyeah08:10
lbtnemo image bug hunting - sure08:11
lbtbut this is more core platform http://review.merproject.org/#q,status:open,n,z08:11
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mikhassome of them look as if you'd only need enough people to try out images (if you could easily create them, see above)08:14
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lbtStskeeps: at some point can you add a documentation to (internal?) wiki about how to kick boss to re-review a change (eg 641)08:14
lbtmikhas: agreed - I got our image builder working a couple of weeks ago08:14
lbtand installed a new boss vm08:15
lbtbut not had time to look at the automation steps08:15
lbtmorning phako08:16
phakoo/08:16
lbtmorning phaeron I mean :)08:16
lbtbut phako too :)08:16
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phaeronlbt: morning08:18
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* lbt just comments that he's planning to copy suse virtualbox code from https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=virtualbox&project=openSUSE%3AFactory and then use that as the basis for building the kernel module09:29
lbt4.1.18 (latest is 4.2.0 iirc but fedora also ship 4.1.18 )09:30
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faenilheya everyone! o/09:33
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kontiomardy, I get http://pastebin.com/eWK4JSL8 with simple 'qmake signon.pro; make', I can fix it with adding a "#include <QDebug" to remotepluginprocess.cpp - I just wonder why nobody else run into that earlier with the latest tar ball signon-8.43.tar.bz2 ?10:07
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mardykontio: weird! Indeed, that include is missing, it should be in debug.h10:33
mardykontio: could you please push a branch with the suggested fix, for review?10:34
kontiomardy, sure I can do that...10:35
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kontiomardy, the include inside the "ifdef DEBUG_ENABLED" ?10:37
kontiono I guess outside...10:40
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Stskeepshello mike_12310:58
mike_123hello10:59
Stskeepsmike_123: so what brings you here to #mer ?10:59
mike_123searching news about Jolla project11:00
mike_123what is done, what is to be done and what i could do about it11:00
Stskeepssure11:01
Stskeepsmerproject - best is to use the mer bugtracker and search for tasks and bugs11:01
mike_123yes, i was looking here and htere :)11:02
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StskeepsSage_: how's images doing?11:25
Sage_uploading http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120920.0.2.NEMO.2012-10-02.1/images/11:26
Stskeepsk11:26
Sage_some ready though11:26
Sage_i486 vm going atm.11:27
Stskeepsk11:27
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Stskeepslbt: what's the kosher way to add Mer:Tools:Testing in an sdk?11:32
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lbtI'd like to have a rolling release of Mer:Tools with latest versions of stuff and then named SDK releases as now11:35
Stskeepsok11:35
lbtbut that's after we've done a validation in MTT ...11:35
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lbtso MTT is just zypper ar the OBS repo - but really that's just to get a quick sanity check before it goes into MT11:36
Stskeepsok11:36
Stskeepshow big is the delta atm?11:36
Stskeeps:P11:36
lbtalmost zero11:36
lbtI want to do a cron report of phaeron's repodiff11:36
lbtright now I'm staring at the virtualbox spec and about to get whisky11:37
Stskeepsokay, so my interest especially is testrunner-ui11:37
lbt*nod*11:37
Stskeepslbt: ah, i'm glad you're reaching same conclusion11:37
Stskeepslbt: as QA is something i'm trying to break some additional ground in11:37
lbtright11:38
Stskeepsso any chance of that making it into Tools?11:38
lbtso phdeswer is also due a chat on Mer:Tools process in about an hour11:38
Stskeepsok11:38
phdeswerYes let's kill a number of birds with one stone.11:39
phdeswerWith disclaimer for animal lovers: no birds will be hurt in this discussion.11:39
kontiomardy, let me know if something is not according to your process/templates, I'm not used to them yet :-) but I created a code review request: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/issues/detail?id=11311:40
lbt*g*11:40
* lbt started this morning on QtCreator...11:40
lbtrabbithole went into building virtualbox this time...11:41
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Stskeepsmoin kyyberi11:42
mardykontio: thanks, looks good to me. I'll wait some time to see if others have different opinions, and then I'll merge it11:44
kontiomardy, ok11:44
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lbtadded another minor comment to the wiki login screen to say "use username, not email" :)11:51
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Stskeeps"what's my username"11:52
Stskeepshas come up11:52
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lbtyeah - I need a hack to bz to display that somewhere11:59
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lbtw00t: did you get chance to verify if https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580 is a regression ?12:04
MerbotMer bug 580 in qt5 "pkg-config clashes with Qt Mobility" [Normal,New]12:04
Stskeepsit's definately something that existed already with alpha12:05
Stskeeps112:05
lbtOK12:05
Bostikdistinct QtMobility is qt4.x only, qt5 has split much of mobility into more sensible parts12:06
Bostikof that I'm pretty sure12:06
Bostiklocation -> qtlocation; multimedia stuff -> qtmultimedia, connectivity the same, and I think mobility even had some sensor stuff in it too12:07
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w00tlbt: not actual verification, but i don't see how it wouldn't have happened before12:07
lbtremoved release blocker flag12:08
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lbto/13:08
phdeswerok. Ready?13:08
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lbtyes13:10
phdeswerOk. Well I guess Stskeeps will join in when needed13:10
lbtyep13:10
Stskeepsi'm here..13:10
Stskeeps:P13:10
Stskeepsi'm -always- here13:10
Stskeeps:P13:10
lbt's true13:11
phdeswer:_13:11
phdeswerWell the first open issue here is how to submit things. lbt suggested github + pull requests13:11
lbtyep13:11
lbtthe objective is to have git repos which correspond to packages13:12
lbtgithub is not my favourite solution but it'll do... eventually we will move to a mer-hosted one13:12
phdeswerSo we need to create them. As currently there is some stuff on gitweb (?) but a number there of the dirs is empty.13:13
lbtcorrect, gitweb is gerrit which isn't quite right for some of our tools13:14
phdeswerSo we will need a few people to maintain the stuff. And eventually have repo/package maintainers somehow.13:14
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lbtwell, I mainly see it as having somewhere to run a simple process13:16
lbtI'm happy to maintain it13:17
Stskeepswe also need to think of a scalable process as you don't scale, as well13:17
phdeswerIndeed. Which is why I suggested there would be a repo maintainer. Which can deal with creating new "packages"13:18
phdeswerAnd package maintainers which can be different for each of  those.13:18
lbtagreed... but step 1... make it easier for me to just ack and push13:19
lbtand allow people to actually make changes13:19
Stskeeps:nod:13:19
lbtalso... get stuff into git13:20
phdeswerTrue. So I guess we just need to get stuff set-up in github. The pull request stuff is well documented there. So that should not be hard13:20
lbt*nod*13:21
lbtand "use gitpkg" is the policy13:21
phdeswerNo issues with that. Especially since it is now installable in the SDK (as I read earlier today)13:21
lbtie submit a git tree and some packaging13:21
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lbthttp://www.merproject.org/Mer_Tools_Status.txt13:22
lbtcrontab update every 10m13:22
lbthence minor distraction here13:23
phdeswerOk.13:23
phdeswerWell then there were some other open issues: Upstream not using git.13:24
lbtso that gets changes to github - they then need to be pushed to M:T:T for a build test so at the same time as a pull should come an OBS SR13:24
phdeswerAnd how do we know which git tag/version is being used13:24
lbtupstream not using git is fine - we import tarballs and use pristine tar13:24
lbtand that is the backup for any other issues too13:24
lbteg no tags etc13:25
lbtand we discuss/resolve issues as they arise13:25
lbtthat OK?13:25
phdeswerok.13:25
phdeswerSo guess we need to start with the action points then. (Unless Stskeeps has something to add?)13:26
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Stskeepsnop13:26
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phdeswerOk I already packaged powertop with git-pkg. So I guess we should try to use the new way and document it on the go.13:28
lbtsure13:28
phdeswerlbt, you can create the new repo? Then I will send a pul request?13:28
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phdeswerGrrr. and fix my wiki access? I can login onto the mer bugzilla but same credentials don't work on the mer wiki.13:29
lbtdid you read the new login msg?13:29
lbtspecially for you :)13:30
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phdeswerlbt, tried that too, or I completely forgot my username13:30
lbthmm13:30
lbtsec13:30
lbtldap browser is eclipse/java and is slooooow13:31
phdeswerlbt, ok forget it. Worked now. Seems there might have been some delay as to be sure I updated my password13:31
phdeswerin bugzilla13:31
lbt~10m passwd sync13:32
phdeswerOk. So drop me a line when you added the github stuff13:33
lbtdone - not sure how to handle initial repo13:33
phdeswerDid I miss something for the test builds to M:T:T?13:33
lbtI may need to clone + push13:33
phdeswerYeah push the old stuff that is already there.13:34
lbtyes, ideally you branch from MTT and use that to do a local build13:34
lbtand then push to cobs so I see the build results on the SR13:35
lbtthe SR should reference the github pull request I think13:35
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lbtI think you need to fork to do a pull don't you13:36
lbtso this process is not so good for first commit13:36
lbtinstead I think you get me to clone your repo to mer-tools13:36
phdeswersec, the branch mentioned earlier here is from the git repo right?13:36
lbtsadly we have to do this in parallel13:37
lbtone branch/fork is for the source13:37
lbtthe other is for the build13:37
lbtlike Mer Core13:37
phdesweryou're getting me completely confused now :)13:37
lbtyeah13:37
lbtOBS is a build system13:38
lbtit's not a VCS13:38
lbtbut people act like it is13:38
lbtso... we use github to manage code13:38
lbtso we fork from github13:38
lbtideally this would automatically branch at cobs... but it doesn't13:38
lbtso at the same time we branch the M:T:T package at cobs13:39
lbtnow we hack13:39
phdeswerok.13:39
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lbtwe push to our branch to validate it builds13:39
lbtit does13:39
lbtwe commit to github13:39
lbtnow we do a pull req at guthub13:40
lbtand for my convenience, an SR at COBS13:40
phdeswerAh so pull req + SR13:40
lbtthe SR at COBS allows me to validate the build succeeded13:40
lbtideally I'd disregard it and pull from github to M:T:T13:41
lbtnot sure - but that sounds sensible13:41
phdeswerOk. Now I follow again. I thought for a sec that the pull request would somehow trigger an automatic build in cobs13:41
lbtthen if it builds it gets promoted to M:T13:41
lbtwould be nice eh?13:41
lbtand frankly shouldn't be a killer to setup13:42
lbtI'm trying to think of automation as we discuss process13:42
phdeswerYep that would be nice indeed.13:42
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lbtwhere is your repo on github13:44
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phdeswerI only have it locally atm13:45
lbtOK13:45
phdeswerSince I also first pulled from gitweb13:45
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lbtah, misunderstood - my bad13:46
phdeswerSo I guess I am off to fork the github one (which is where?) Then add mine and send the pull request. And do an SR in cobs13:46
* lbt is confused - I don't see it on gitweb13:46
lbtI think you pulled from cobs13:48
phdeswerYep I did. Sorry. Got confused in the end with all the repos.13:48
lbtnp13:48
lbtso yes, make yourself a repo on github and push it there13:48
lbtthen I'll clone that13:49
phdeswerNow I have to remember my github account details :)13:50
andre__hmm, merproject.org is down?13:50
lbt*g*13:50
lbtandre__: mmm13:50
andre__argh, I tried https://13:50
andre__I see13:51
lbtwww is about the only non https13:51
lbthowever I'm migrating domain to new registrar so keeping a close eye13:51
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phdeswerlbt, pushed to https://github.com/philippedeswert/powertop.git13:57
lbtoffs13:57
lbtthose wusses lost the "hard core forking action" :(13:57
lbthttps://github.com/mer-tools/powertop13:58
lbtso ... don't have the tarball in the git13:58
lbtthis isn't Mer Core you know ... we do things right!13:59
phdeswerlbt, so then we get back to my issue how cobs will know where to build from...13:59
lbtyou run gp_make_src in the cobs dir and push the tarball there14:00
lbtnb ... this is all very incremental... it will fit together later14:00
phdeswerOk. Will delete the tarball then now. And add a mental not to that weirdness with git-pkg :)14:00
phdeswerAnd answers my question how git-pkg would help to remove the tarball from git :)14:02
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lbtdelete the repo and repush too14:03
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lbtyou should also have the spec/changes/yaml/_src in the pkg-mer branch and the code in the master14:05
lbtif you used pristine tar you should be sure to push that branch too14:05
phdeswerlbt ok repo deleted and you managed to totally confuse me now with your last comments.14:06
phdeswerWhich branch?14:07
phdeswerAnd what is the code?14:07
lbtgitpkg should give you 2 or 3 branches14:07
lbtnormally 214:07
phdeswerYou expect me to have the full upstream repo there?14:07
phdeswerWith the pkg-mer branch?14:07
lbtof course!14:07
lbtthe point is to have the full upstream repo available to encourage and support contributions etc14:08
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phdeswerWell that was not obvious :)14:08
lbtOK14:08
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lbtphdeswer: need to pop out for a while now ... I'll be back later - I'll write some of this up in the wiki too14:11
phdeswerOk. I will be oo also for a bit14:11
lbtexplaining this is very useful for me too - so thanks for persevering14:12
* Stskeeps isn't terribly convinced from a mer-core pov, just as a note14:12
Stskeepsbut let's see how it goes14:12
lbtit's essentially the same process14:12
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lbtfork osc; fork git; push osc watch it build; push git; pickup, build, verify, accept14:13
lbtthe only difference is that gitpkg pushes to 2 branches and has the entire tree in git - and it's not got the automated pull when a push happens14:14
lbtanyhow ... bbiab14:14
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phdeswerlbt pushed. Hope this time it is how you expect it to be ;)14:18
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Stskeepshello Bet1nh014:24
Bet1nh0hello Stskeeps14:24
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StskeepsBet1nh0: welcome to #mer :) sow hat brings you here?14:25
Stskeepser, so what brings you here, i mean14:25
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Bet1nh0Well... I'm a developer... I own a N9  and I would like to contribute to MER project14:26
Stskeepssure :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute14:28
StskeepsBet1nh0: no problem14:30
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djszapiHi! Is there a way of detecting if one is inside sb2?14:32
djszapilike we had _SBOX_DIR for sb1?14:32
alteregodjszapi: sb2 /usr/bin/env14:35
StskeepsSBOX_SESSION_DIR maybe14:35
alteregoshows a load of SBOX specific environment variables, even some related to the currently executing process. May be useful ;)14:35
djszapithere are problems with the Qt5 V8 build under qemu as it runs a jit code which makes qemu crash, so probably examining a qemu variable would be nicer, but that is how it is now done for configure with sb114:40
Stskeepsdjszapi: harmattan builds aren't using sb214:40
djszapisb1?14:41
Stskeepsneither, read up on binfmt_misc14:41
Stskeepsand uses a static qemu-arm binary emulator14:41
djszapiah! Thanks for sharing that info!14:42
djszapiI will document it.14:42
Stskeepswhich is why they're so damn slow14:42
djszapiso you have built the V8 (qt5-jsbackend) for mer.14:42
djszapiyou did not get a crash for qemu?14:42
Stskeepsyes, though mer uses sb2, and a modern qemu14:42
Stskeepsthe qemu in harmattan is probably old14:42
alteregovery old I'd imagine14:43
Stskeepsor rather, in the harmattan obs builds14:43
djszapican it be updated?14:44
djszapiwhich version is it?14:45
alteregoWell, your best bet is finding that out yourself, this is #mer afterall not #harmattan.14:45
alteregoI'm not sure I have a harmattan toolchain installed anyway anymore.14:45
Stskeepsdjszapi: you probably have to inject in a /usr/bin/qemu-arm and /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static14:46
djszapithe problem si that #harmattan does not own the harmattan part of the build farm.14:46
djszapiis*14:46
Stskeepsdjszapi: and you can inject that through your own project config14:46
alteregoOh, you're using cobs?14:47
Stskeepslook at mer's package for qemu-arm-static and copy that binary to both14:47
Stskeepspaths14:47
Stskeepsand make it Preinstall: in project config14:47
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djszapialterego: yes, it crashes on the community OBS14:47
djszapilocally it was all fine because _SBOX_DIR was present which was admittedly a hack in the qt project xD14:48
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alteregoThey do love their macros ;)14:48
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djszapiStskeeps: thanks, I will take a look at that.14:49
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Sage_Stskeeps: kick http://review.merproject.org/89815:01
StskeepsSage_: done15:02
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Sage_Stskeeps: also http://review.merproject.org/#change,880 http://review.merproject.org/851 http://review.merproject.org/853 and http://review.merproject.org/84415:03
Stskeepsoh for..15:03
* Stskeeps notes sage_ knows to strike when the iron is hot15:03
Sage_well I'm not checking the older ones but I guess there is more ;)15:04
Sage_also can you abandon some changes so those get out of the way?15:04
Stskeepsdone15:04
Stskeepsyes, which ones?15:04
Sage_http://review.merproject.org/651 http://review.merproject.org/650 at least15:05
Sage_and http://review.merproject.org/#change,65215:05
Stskeepsdone15:06
Sage_thx15:06
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* Sage_ updates couple of his old submits to get them out of -115:06
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Sage_after pushing next test to n95015:06
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Sage_ok, so touch isn't working on my n950 on next mer15:17
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Stskeepsthis day just keeps on giving15:18
StskeepsSage_: check mer changelog, libXi in there?15:18
Sage_it is there15:18
Sage_your doings ;)15:19
* Sage_ install old libXi and tries 15:19
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Sage_with libXi 1.5.0 works with the 1.6.1 submitted doesn't15:22
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Sage_Stskeeps: ^ (cc: w00t)15:22
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w00tyeesh...15:22
Sage_I recalled w00t doing something with touch at some point :)15:23
w00ti don't know what that could be, but I'm cloning libxi to see if there's anything in commit logs15:24
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w00tsurprisingly few commits (good)15:24
w00t    Implement support for XI 2.215:25
w00tthat's a little worrying in that i wonder what it did to the custom touch stuff we have15:25
Sage_Stskeeps: otherwise the n950 seems ok (slow but ok)15:28
StskeepsSage_: install xinput tool?15:28
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Sage_anyone with exopc could check if touch there is fine? and n900?15:30
Sage_Stskeeps: where do we have that tool?15:30
StskeepsSage_: steal it from meego15:30
Sage_https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=xorg-x11-utils-xinput&project=home%3Asage%3Agn15:31
Sage_have it in my repo ;)15:31
Stskeepsok15:31
Sage_[nemo@localhost ~]$ /usr/bin/xinput list --long15:32
Sage_XI2 not supported.15:32
Sage_with old libXi though15:32
Stskeepsuhhh15:32
Stskeepscan you try with newer libxi?15:32
Sage_sure15:32
Sage_without reboot same thing at least rebooting to verify15:33
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Sage_err same thing15:35
Sage_can't even list devices15:35
Stskeepsok15:37
Stskeepsrevert time it is..15:37
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fk_lxhi all15:39
Stskeepslo fk_lx15:39
lbtyell as soon as you need a pre-rel :)15:39
Stskeepsi need a pre-martini15:39
Sage_we really need to get that libXi checked soonish before it becomes issue for adaptations etc.15:39
Stskeepsbug15:40
* Sage_ files15:41
Sage_https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58715:43
MerbotMer bug 587 in libXi "Updating libXi breaks touch on N950 (and maybe others)" [Normal,New]15:43
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StskeepsSage_: i don't have my exo to test with atm15:44
Sage_I'll check with mine later today then15:44
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Kiranoshttp://jollatides.com/2012/10/02/jolla-official-press-release-october-2nd-2012/18:02
Kiranoscongrats18:02
Kiranosnice projekt18:02
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StskeepsKiranos: thanks, good to get the mer name out there18:23
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rubdosStskeeps, indeed congrats, I love Jolla. Finally a company that wants to work with FOSS and a community.18:33
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_ThomasStskeeps: Are any of the key Android-players joining as well?18:48
Stskeepsi'm not in a position to answer that, but i'm always happy to answer about mer :P18:48
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rcgevening all18:57
Stskeepsevening rcg18:58
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rcgi created a number of patches (pretty nasty hacks u19:01
rcgerr19:01
lpotterstarfish eh?19:01
rcgi created a number of patches (pretty nasty hacks actually), that improve the look and feel of nemo apps on plasma active19:02
Stskeepslpotter: sailfish, but yeah19:02
rubdoslpotter, long live sailfish ;)19:02
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lpotterya thats what I said sailfish :)19:02
* lpotter grabs more coffee19:02
rcgwill write a blog post about this.. however i dunno if this is of general interest19:02
timophI think Jolla picked Mer for it's base because of the sea theme :p19:03
rcgpersonally, i am quite happy to have twimgo now being pretty usable on plasma active :)19:03
Stskeepsrcg: cool19:03
Venemorcg: what device?19:04
rcgStskeeps: archos g919:04
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rcgStskeeps: the changes are rather small. but i consider this more like a proof of concept as i assume there could be better ways for implementing this. however, i can send you the link once i wrote the blog entry19:06
Stskeepsok19:06
timophStskeeps: about the test data thing. I think we should not think only about media stuff but whatever end user data19:06
Venemohm19:07
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Stskeepstimoph: .doc .xls etc?19:07
Venemojust noticed, there's archos gen10 now?19:07
timophnot quite :)19:07
timophcontacts, calendar, etc.19:07
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timophnot really base testing but I bet something vendors would like to see19:07
timophpluggable tool for importing test data. media and whatever19:08
Stskeeps:nod:19:08
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Sage_Stskeeps: when is the new prerelease ready? :)19:09
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sivangSage_: it's out already no? :)19:10
sivangah, new19:10
StskeepsSage_: when it has stopped fighting with the other builds you asked me for19:10
Stskeeps:P19:10
Sage_hah :D19:10
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Venemohm19:30
Venemoarchos gen10 is still omap419:30
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Venemobut it looks way too awesome19:31
Stskeepspretty top of the line in omap?19:31
lbtphaeron: we're getting lots of those segfaults again on the cobs workers19:31
lbtqemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped19:31
lbtlast time it was some missing repo... this time they look like they're OK19:32
lbtProject:KDE:Trunk though19:32
phaeronlbt: hmm qemu ?19:32
* phaeron has amnesia19:32
lbthttps://gist.github.com/382276219:33
phaeronlbt: check if they are zombie jobs19:34
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lbtit looks like many of that project's packages are dying19:42
Stskeepswhat arcrepo?19:42
Bostik?19:42
Stskeepswhat repo19:42
phaeronlbt: last time there were no repos in the first place19:42
lbthttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/repositories?package=rlog&project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk19:43
lbtProject_KDE_Mer_Extras_CE_MW_Shared_Mer_Core-next_armv7hl ans 7l19:43
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lbtyep - the repos have been deleted19:46
lbthttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=Project%3AKDE%3ATrunk19:46
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lbtsorted19:53
Stskeepsk19:53
phaeronit's weird how these zombie jobs rise from the dead19:58
Stskeepsyou're on meego obs, this should be business as usual, :P19:59
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rcgphaeron: well, i suppose that's what makes them zombies in the first place? ;P20:01
rcgscnr20:01
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phaeronstill doesn't make it logical :D20:02
rcg:)20:03
lbtI think they dropped the repo20:05
lbtwhich should have killed the jobs20:05
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StskeepsSage_: libxi we need to solve20:48
StskeepsSage_: it's a requirement for qt520:48
Sage_ah20:48
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Sage_welcome to the fight ;)20:48
Stskeepsyes, it'll be my first item tomorrow20:49
lbtI thought we supported Recommends:20:51
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_ThomasStskeeps: We just opened up our store for everyone, globally now (and announced that we have secured CE and FCC)21:02
_ThomasStskeeps: Anyone with an interest in getting mer up on the device? :)21:03
lbtyay21:03
Skrywhat device, where?21:04
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Stskeeps_Thomas: congratulations :)21:07
_ThomasStskeeps: Thx, now you get someone to port mer on it ;)21:10
_ThomasSkry: http://store.cstick.com  --  Cotton Candy21:10
Skry_Thomas: that looks _very_ nice, out of my price range though :)21:15
lbt*nod*21:15
lbt_Thomas: we'd find someone to port Mer to it if you had a dev device for us21:16
_ThomasMight be possible within the next 30-45 days21:17
lbtOK - let me know21:17
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Skrywhat soc is it using?21:18
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_ThomasExynos 421021:19
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Skry_Thomas: people at arclinuxarm are already waiting for a device :)21:30
_Thomasarchlinuxarm, you mean?21:30
vgrade_Thomas, \o21:31
_Thomasvgrade: Hi :)21:32
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Skry_Thomas: yes, sorry for the typo21:32
* lbt wonders why kernel-adaptation-pc-devel requires hardlink ?21:32
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vgrade_Thomas, were you planning some devices at reduced price21:32
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_ThomasSkry: #mer is higher up on the priority list of where to give out / sell cheaper dev devices at, if we are doing that21:33
_Thomasvgrade: As of now, no, but it is up for discussion21:33
vgrade_Thomas, ok21:33
_ThomasOne solution might be to sell the device as usual, but if an item from a list of tasks is solved by a community member, we might refund the device21:34
_Thomasfor instance21:34
_Thomasbut we are looking at various options21:34
lbt_Thomas: sounds very sensible indeed21:35
vgrade_Thomas, do you just have an andriod build atm21:36
_Thomasyes21:36
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_ThomasFirst Ubuntu release is announced for October 12th21:36
vgrade_Thomas, but have access to build some GLES drivers21:37
Skry_Thomas: how many units there are available? If everything goes well I've got a new job this month which would mean more money, so I would be interested to buy one, could have a look at arch linux then, refunds or not.21:37
_ThomasWe have source to build all those things21:37
vgrade_Thomas, good to hear21:37
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rcgStskeeps: http://ruedigergad.com/2012/10/03/nemo-apps-on-plasma-active-improved-look-and-feel/23:25
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rcgthe post is well, it's quite late here and i think you can read this if you look at the post23:25
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rcghowever, there are links to the relevant patches23:25
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rcghaving said that it's more than time to go to bed for me... xD23:30
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