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| lbt | morning | 06:06 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 06:08 |
| lbt | gnnnn ... no coffee in room | 06:08 |
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| mikhas | and no food in room either :-( | 06:11 |
| Bostik | groaning | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik , mikhas: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | qml compositor starting with systemd user sessions, terminal emulator, wayland, etc | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | qt5 | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:14 |
| mikhas | ha | 06:15 |
| Bostik | whoa | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | still very research-y but a good move forward | 06:16 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: naming is a bit confusing, 'Zephyr' always maps first as a nested X for me :) | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 06:16 |
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| Stskeeps | many good choices for that name, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephyr_(dinghy) , A light wind or west wind , etc | 06:20 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 06:20 |
| mikhas | ;-) | 06:21 |
| ljp | as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephyr_(band) | 06:23 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: anything later than 0.92.4 i should use with qt5? | 06:29 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, the build errors you mean? | 06:33 |
| Bostik | ... oh, it was probably Xephyr, the nested X | 06:33 |
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| mikhas | not yet fixed in master, patch waiting for review + release pending | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: ok | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: got an URL for the patch? | 06:34 |
| mikhas | sure, hang on | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | i promised to test this, so | 06:34 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, https://bugs.maliit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 | 06:34 |
| Merbot | bugs.maliit.org bug 189 in General "Compile with Qt5" [Major,Unconfirmed] | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 06:36 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, I think the remaining compile errors are https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-26238?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel | 06:36 |
| mikhas | "I checked, and it's hard to improve Q_STATIC_ASSERT for non c+11 compilers." | 06:37 |
| mikhas | It's thiago's revenge to make people use C++11 ;-) | 06:37 |
| mikhas | Found this now: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.qt.devel/4450 | 06:43 |
| mikhas | I guess I'll start my day with that then … | 06:43 |
| Bostik | that doesn't look bad | 06:45 |
| mikhas | no, it is a huge improvement | 06:46 |
| mikhas | in the MeeGo days, plugin loading was a huge contributor to startup time | 06:47 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: mainwindow.h:4:24: fatal error: Qt/qglobal.h: No such file or directory | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | Qt/ is deprecated, btw | 06:55 |
| mikhas | right | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | which i'm, as a packager, so damn happy about | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:56 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: yeah, that's the remaining issue by now | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | Qt/qglobal.h -> QtCore/qtglobal.h | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-26238?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels: is now what i'm running int | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | o | 07:04 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, can you perhaps comment on the Maliit bug? | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | will do | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | if i can recall my login | 07:32 |
| mikhas | ;-) | 07:32 |
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| Stskeeps | maliit bug.. | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | maliit bug in qt, or? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | ah, nm | 07:55 |
| Aard | - | 07:55 |
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| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | updated it a bit | 08:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks :) | 08:12 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: how long until I can get Qt5 built again oin COBS? :) | 08:15 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: prerelease should be available with new toolchain | 08:17 |
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| * Bostik logs in.. | 08:17 | |
| Stskeeps | Mer:MDS:Core-next:( | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | Mer:MDS:Core-next:* | 08:17 |
| Bostik | nnnnope, not available even via advanced repository interface, so... add blindly to project conf | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:19 |
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| Bostik | "nothing provides... $WORLD" | 08:23 |
| Bostik | let's try again later | 08:23 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer:MDS:Core:armv7hl ? | 08:27 |
| Bostik | :i586 | 08:28 |
| Bostik | oh, :Core: | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | er, Core-next | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | as well | 08:28 |
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| Bostik | Mer:MDS-Core:next:i586 | 08:28 |
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| Stskeeps | Mer:MDS:Core-next:i586 | 08:28 |
| Bostik | -ytpo.. Mer:MDS:Core-next:i586 | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | right | 08:29 |
| Bostik | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 just in case I'm blind for my own taps | 08:29 |
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| Stskeeps | repository="Core_i586" | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes, a bit confusing, i know.. | 08:30 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/modular-qt-specs-beta1.tar.gz | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | script has been mangled a bit | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | has some features to distinguish between deployment and development, as well as tarball support | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | probably breaks stuff | 08:31 |
| Bostik | no wonder, I needed to work on it too | 08:31 |
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| mariusmssj | helo everyone :) | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | lo mariusmssj | 08:40 |
| mariusmssj | Oh hey there just the person i wanted to talk to | 08:40 |
| Bostik | right.. repo name change fired up the build but COBS doesn't show build logs | 08:40 |
| Sage_ | err... building boost one needs more then 3G of space :P | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: new webkit, woo | 08:41 |
| Sage_ | my ramdisk got full :P | 08:41 |
| mariusmssj | Is there anyone here who looks after the wiki page for N9/N950 Kernel update project? | 08:41 |
| Sage_ | kjokinie: jnikula: ^ | 08:42 |
| kjokinie | mariusmssj: yes, it's me | 08:43 |
| mariusmssj | oh helo | 08:43 |
| mariusmssj | hello | 08:43 |
| mariusmssj | got some feedback if you don't ming? | 08:43 |
| kjokinie | mariusmssj: I was just about to send a email about that to mer-general | 08:43 |
| mariusmssj | mind* | 08:44 |
| kjokinie | mariusmssj: don't mind at all | 08:44 |
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| mariusmssj | ok | 08:45 |
| mariusmssj | the https://bitbucket.org/kjokinie/mer-n9-kernel.git link on the wiki page gives 404 | 08:45 |
| mariusmssj | removing .git https://bitbucket.org/kjokinie/mer-n9-kernel works just fine :) | 08:45 |
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| kjokinie | mariusmssj: thanks, I'll fix that in the wiki | 08:46 |
| mariusmssj | ok and about kernel modules | 08:47 |
| mariusmssj | one more task to add is: IPtable NAT module | 08:47 |
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| mariusmssj | without it, is imposible to do pentesting with N9 | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | i think some basics are needed first :) | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | but that should be trivial to add for anyone in future | 08:48 |
| mariusmssj | Ok :) this was just some feedback from the TMO thread that i wanted to share :) | 08:49 |
| kjokinie | mariusmssj: is that NAT table some generic kconfig feature, I copied all defconfigs that were avaialable in the new kernel from the old kconfig | 08:49 |
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| mariusmssj | tbh i am not sure, as this is a comment from a user in TMO forums | 08:51 |
| mariusmssj | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86971 | 08:51 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: what is the normal space available on worker hosts btw? And is powerhost only about more memory? | 08:54 |
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| smita_ | hi.. i want to run a simple application in virtualbox.. does anyone know how to do it? | 08:57 |
| smita_ | alterego, ^ | 08:58 |
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| kjokinie | mariusmssj: about that git link: it's a URL for git for cloning the repo, not a WWW page | 08:58 |
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| kjokinie | mariusmssj: btw, maybe this: "# CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES is not set" was what was being asked for? It's actually enabled as module for IPv6, but not for IPv4.. | 09:09 |
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| mariusmssj | sorry was away | 09:19 |
| mariusmssj | but ok i'll fin that out | 09:19 |
| dcthang | kjokinie: how can a guy want to join that?:) | 09:20 |
| kjokinie | dcthang: consider yourself joined :) | 09:20 |
| kjokinie | dcthang: well, more seriously, you can send patches to mer-general to get them into the kernel tree | 09:21 |
| dcthang | okay, just cloning the code ... | 09:21 |
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| kjokinie | dcthang: so far the development with it is quite challenging as we don't have working usb networking yet | 09:22 |
| mariusmssj | So the first stage is to have the USB networking going? | 09:23 |
| kjokinie | though phdeswer did have some progress on that front getting it fixed | 09:23 |
| mariusmssj | yeah i saw phdeswert was on the list for the USB | 09:24 |
| phdeswer | :D | 09:24 |
| phdeswer | Indeed causing some controversy it seems. | 09:24 |
| phdeswer | But yes With the fix I proposed usb networking is possible again (and the other gadgets) Still need to check where the power_supply indications went | 09:24 |
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| fk_lx | hi | 09:25 |
| phdeswer | As that is needed to get usb_moded to work and do the work for us. | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | lo fk_lx | 09:25 |
| mariusmssj | glad to hear of the progress :) | 09:25 |
| mariusmssj | btw i wanted to ask to which kernel version is the port going to? 3.5.4? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: we're not making waves if we aren't making some kind of controversy ;0 | 09:27 |
| phdeswer | Stskeeps, :) Good point! | 09:28 |
| * Sage_ is really confused with libzypp and boost dependency | 09:29 | |
| Sage_ | just noted that no boost packages are installed on the nemo image eventhough libzypp is there | 09:29 |
| Sage_ | how can that be :) | 09:29 |
| w00t | boost is headers-only | 09:29 |
| w00t | compile time, not run time | 09:29 |
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| Sage_ | err.... there is still lots of libboost*.so.* files etc. so I though it is also runtime | 09:30 |
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| w00t | well, not all of it is | 09:31 |
| Sage_ | ok | 09:31 |
| w00t | i meant that the way libzypp is using it may be | 09:31 |
| Sage_ | updating boost from 1.39.0 to 1.51.0 will it blend? :) | 09:31 |
| w00t | just try it and see what breaks I guess :-p | 09:32 |
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| Sage_ | libzypp and zypper are the only things usig it so that probably :) | 09:32 |
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| * Sage_ drop nuke number n+1 on top of cobs: " Corrupted storable file (binary v2.7) at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/fd_retrieve.al) line 398, at ./bs_worker line 742" | 09:34 | |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: can you do osc jobhistory please | 09:36 |
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| phaeron | Sage_: can you see which worker please | 09:36 |
| mariusmssj | take care guys :) | 09:37 |
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| ljp | hey marius | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr if you want to try to go hands on with system development with qt5 - got a .ks up to build images with | 09:39 |
| ljp | saw that. need to get hdmi cable :) | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | this is at first for virtualbox though | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | r-pi comes as we go along, too | 09:41 |
| ljp | ok. will try to try it out :) | 09:41 |
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| Sage_ | phaeron: pubworker05/* | 09:45 |
| Sage_ | where * is 2,4 or 6 apparently | 09:45 |
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| Sage_ | eh http://pastie.org/4796543 maybe it is some other option than --disable-long-double now :P | 09:48 |
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| fabo | w00t: hehe :) | 09:49 |
| w00t | fabo: I just checked fedora too | 09:49 |
| w00t | they patch out QMAKE_STRIP in their .spec | 09:49 |
| w00t | so... this seems to be a pretty universal problem :) | 09:49 |
| fabo | w00t: I think so. every distro is doing something to work around. | 09:50 |
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| fabo | just have seen MIB3 yesterday, in the thread context: let's agree to disagree | 09:53 |
| w00t | *g* | 09:53 |
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| Sage_ | phaeron: well it seems it every worker on 05 | 09:55 |
| phaeron | yes I can see its logs now | 09:56 |
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| phaeron | [141039.845060] EXT4-fs error (device dm-12): mb_free_blocks:1395: group 17block 566179:freeing already freed block (bit 9123) | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | that looks a bit sick? | 09:58 |
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| phaeron | the worker cache was corrupted due to that fs error | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:01 |
| phaeron | stopped worker -> fsck -> mount -> start worker | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:01 |
| phaeron | lets see what happens now | 10:01 |
| * Stskeeps is just happy it wasnt' MDS related | 10:01 | |
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| phaeron | I never said that one is | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | the 'last' issue may be | 10:03 |
| Sage_ | well I have still that one project that doesn't want to build at all :/ | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | did you remove and re-add the repos? | 10:03 |
| Sage_ | didn't do that | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | please do? | 10:04 |
| Sage_ | did just rebuild and wipebinaries | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:04 |
| Sage_ | sure | 10:04 |
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| Sage_ | doesn't help | 10:05 |
| Sage_ | removed repo and readded nothing changed still all unresolved | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | hello melonipoika, welcome to #mer :) | 10:05 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... maybe different anem | 10:05 |
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| Sage_ | nope that doesn't help either. Renamed the repo | 10:07 |
| melonipoika | hi Stskeeps, thanks! :D | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | pastie the meta prj | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | melonipoika: if you have any questions on Mer feel free to ask at any time - else feel free to hang out :) | 10:07 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4796608 it is the next_armv7hl that fails | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i don't see any issues, at least | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: osc ls -b Mer:fake:Core-next:armv7hl | 10:09 |
| Sage_ | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 10:10 |
| Sage_ | remote error: File not found | 10:10 |
| Sage_ | :) | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | uhh | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | and without -b ? | 10:10 |
| Sage_ | works | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:11 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: so any ideas? | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i do, but i'm on my wrong side of lunch at the moment.. | 10:15 |
| Sage_ | hehe :) | 10:15 |
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| Sage_ | ../zypp/libzypp.so.1200.2.0: undefined reference to `.LLST542' | 10:27 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ring any bells? | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i would think sirens instead | 10:27 |
| Sage_ | ? :) | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | as in, that's really a bad sig | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | n | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:28 |
| Sage_ | what does it mean? Only thing that comes to my mind is the --disable-long-double in boost didn't apparently work. | 10:28 |
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| phaeron | ok worker 05 is working afaics | 10:37 |
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| zuh | Btw, is this normal? This is one of the mount points of Mer SDK: http://pastie.org/4796715 | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | zuh: that seems a bit recursive, yes | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | bug please? | 10:39 |
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| zuh | Stskeeps: Done, https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582 | 10:46 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 582 in SDK "Weird mount options with the SDK mounts" [Normal,New] | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | thank you | 10:46 |
| zuh | huh, the description doesn't line-break... | 10:46 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: about tat .LLST* error? | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: does it build on x86 or arm? | 10:58 |
| Sage_ | it builds on x86 fine but fails on arm | 11:00 |
| Sage_ | the libzypp | 11:00 |
| Sage_ | - long double support : yes | 11:01 |
| Sage_ | is set on new boost but it was disabled on old thus me wonderig if that is the reason or if it is really supported now | 11:01 |
| Sage_ | maybe not related to the problem just an observation of other stuff | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | do what i normally do when it comes to boost | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | go look what debian did | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | or ubuntu | 11:02 |
| Sage_ | what does that error mean? Boost itself compiles fine so no idea if this is even boost related | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | means there's a bad label somewhere in the assembly generated | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | that isn't used | 11:05 |
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| Sage_ | heh, debian has also the --disable-long-double option in their build but it doesn't do anything anymore ;) | 11:09 |
| Sage_ | it is the only armhf option in their config | 11:10 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: Is anyone working with mce stuff? | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | though that's more of a #nemomobile topic | 11:15 |
| dcthang | ah ok, sorry | 11:15 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: will there be a dev room for fosdem? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i've gotten a bit lost in the planning for that | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | embedded devroom might also fit many of the topics | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | the deadline is soon, i think | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: ^ | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: does it make sense to have a seperate mobile linux discussion room or should we try to take everything through embedded? | 11:22 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: that's why I poked. saw _av500_ g+ posting | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | i'll probably submit a talk entirely on meego compliance and expect to heckled ;p | 11:22 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Guest92598 / James | 11:28 |
| Guest92598 | hello | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to #mer :) so what brings you here? | 11:28 |
| Guest92598 | I was just poking around looking into Mer and thought the IRC group might be worth a look :) | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | sure :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time | 11:29 |
| Guest92598 | Sure, thanks! | 11:29 |
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| Sage_ | lbt, Stskeeps: is the mips scheduler on at cobs atm. or not? | 11:38 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: the unresolved issue is on armv7l as well | 11:39 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: well actually it is unresolved to all arm architectures on my project there | 11:45 |
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| phaeron | Sage_: mips scheduler is there | 11:49 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: I added it to my repo but it didn't appear yet, maybe need to wait more. | 11:50 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore-next%3Ai586 | 11:50 |
| Sage_ | all next arm are unresolved :/ | 11:51 |
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| * lbt wonders if mer mips is setup on mds | 11:53 | |
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| phaeron | lbt: - home:sage:branches:Mer:fake:Core-next:i586/next_mipsel: Mer:fake:Core-next:mipsel: 500 remote error: Internal Server Error | 11:58 |
| phaeron | I think not | 11:58 |
| lbt | do you care right now? | 11:59 |
| Sage_ | I really don't want to say this as I don't want to enable more stuff in cobs, but can someone enable it so I can test the code against mips before pushing to gerrit review :) | 11:59 |
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| lbt | Sage_: that's why I added the sched... just never got round to adding the mds import | 12:02 |
| phaeron | lbt: and I really think the mer-next import is screwed up https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?commit=Filter%3A&succeeded=1&failed=1&unresolvable=1&broken=1&blocked=1&dispatching=1&scheduled=1&building=1&finished=1&signing=1&disabled=1&excluded=1&locked=1&unknown=1&pkgname=&repo_latest_armv7hl=1&repo_latest_i586=1&repo_latest_mipsel=1&repo_next_armv6l=1&repo_next_armv7hl=1&repo_next_armv7l=1&repo_next_armv7tnhl=1&repo_next_i486=1&r | 12:03 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: too long url | 12:04 |
| phaeron | Sage_: but it works if you click on it | 12:04 |
| lbt | nop "is not a valid project name" | 12:05 |
| Sage_ | ...v7tnhl=1&repo_next_i486=1&r | 12:08 |
| Sage_ | ends there | 12:08 |
| phaeron | hmm appears fine on my side. oh well Sage_ it's your project | 12:09 |
| phaeron | gtg | 12:09 |
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| phdeswer | Stskeeps, let's go through embedded. | 12:18 |
| kulve | btw, why automatic kernel module loading doesn't work (on my) images before I've run once "depmod -a" after flashing the image? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: ok | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: bad kernel packaging, maybe | 12:19 |
| phdeswer | I expanded it to mobile already a few years ago :) | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: how difficult is it to get a talk in? | 12:19 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I've packaged kernels now for gumstix and rpi and I've followed different instructions and both do the same.. | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:19 |
| phdeswer | Not very hard. And I asked you already if you wanted to help to be on the selection comittee and look for talks. | 12:19 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: anything I can do for the arm unresolvable issue? | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | mm, i could do that | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: sorry, got a bit sidestepped by some stuff related to my loan for my apartment | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: can i get back to you? | 12:20 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: sure, probably tomorrow I'm continuing from that then. | 12:23 |
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| Stskeeps | kjokinie: i'd really prefer a different mailing list for patches.. | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | kjokinie: i'll make it part of my tasks to get one set up for you, but this will scare away people | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | hw adaptations are seperatefrom mer | 12:46 |
| kjokinie | Stskeeps: ok, that's fine with me, let me know the list then | 12:47 |
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| faenil | o/ | 13:00 |
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| cybette | faenil: survived first couple days of classes? | 13:02 |
| faenil | hey :) seems so :/ | 13:02 |
| faenil | boring as hell...oh gosh | 13:03 |
| cybette | :) | 13:03 |
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| cybette | I used to try to sit in the first row, so that I would't fall asleep; but I still did, right under the prof's nose | 13:04 |
| faenil | ahah great :D | 13:04 |
| faenil | I'm usually late...first seats are already taken :D | 13:04 |
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| faenil | have to find some money for an SSD :P | 13:07 |
| cybette | faenil: what capacity? | 13:08 |
| faenil | don't know...256? | 13:09 |
| faenil | should be enough for a decent price | 13:09 |
| faenil | but I have no money atm, so that's just only an idea so far :D | 13:09 |
| cybette | it always starts with an idea :) | 13:10 |
| faenil | :) | 13:10 |
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| Stskeeps | pq: have you given any thought how we could share buffers in a wayland like fashion with libhybris yet? | 13:12 |
| pq | Stskeeps, I haven't given it a good thought, but I'd guess we'd use the gralloc library directly, and wrap it to whatever structs the gfx implementation libs want. | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:14 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, just setup SDK from fresh ubuntu, got "Directory /var/run/dbus is missing in SDK root - please report this bug" when mounting | 13:16 |
| faenil | did anyone else get the same? | 13:19 |
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| faenil | I'm not entering the sdk, to avoid any side effect... | 13:22 |
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| faenil | I umounted and remounted again and the error didn't show...what can I do Stskeeps ? | 13:28 |
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| faenil | also, commands on the wiki aren't correct...zypper in -t pattern requires root priv... | 13:30 |
| faenil | should I add -R to the zypper command? | 13:30 |
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| faenil | okay, I guess I'd better ask when the chat is more active :P | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | pq: makes sense | 13:36 |
| pq | Stskeeps, AFAIK all the interfaces are C, so we should be fine without C++... right? :-P | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | pq: i think sadly some of the interfaces are c++ objects | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | at least when it comes to windows | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | but i might be wrong | 13:39 |
| pq | Stskeeps, going into android libEGL or the hw libs? | 13:40 |
| pq | android libEGL is sad, yes, but I kind of hoped the hw libs would be C | 13:40 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step should the pre-requisites be just install mer sdk? | 13:43 |
| Sage_ | lbt: instead of saying spectacle, osc, mic, etc. | 13:43 |
| lbt | sounds sensible now | 13:43 |
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| faenil | Sage_, you know anything about the /var/run/dbug error I wrote about few minutes ago? | 13:44 |
| faenil | Sage_, hi anyway :D | 13:45 |
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| faenil | mm I'm starting to think you can't read me... | 13:48 |
| Sage_ | faenil: hmmp... there is note in sdk installation page about that IIRC | 13:48 |
| faenil | oh ok :D I noticed I didn't get logged in | 13:49 |
| pq | Stskeeps, I'm hoping the interface to hw libs wants ANativeWindow* which is also a C type. | 13:49 |
| pq | ANativeWindowBuffer is also a C type | 13:49 |
| faenil | Sage_, I did not read anything about that...also looked for /var/run | 13:49 |
| pq | typedef struct ANativeWindow* EGLNativeWindowType; | 13:50 |
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| Sage_ | faenil: moment | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | pq: hmm, true | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | pq: but there's some hook stuff | 13:51 |
| faenil | sure | 13:51 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, yeah, there are. Some ref counting. They all seem to use the same C-compatible types in arguments. | 13:52 |
| pq | we just need to implement them in C, using gralloc | 13:53 |
| Sage_ | faenil: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Initialize_scratchbox2 Search: "mkdir run" that was what I recalled | 13:53 |
| Sage_ | faenil: probalby a different problem | 13:54 |
| faenil | Sage_, yeah... | 13:54 |
| faenil | don't know if I should file a bug about that | 13:54 |
| pq | Stskeeps, that is the way I started the the weston android backend, and hit a wall only when android-libEGL wanted C++ objects. I don't see why we couldn't do it all in C. | 13:54 |
| faenil | Sage_, also, the guide says I should be root when I "enter", but zypper in -t pattern still requires root and doesn't run | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | pq: well, that is what we can do with a good wrapepr built inside android maybe | 13:55 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, you mean built for bionic? Do we need even that, can't we just build for glibc and use libhybris to link all the libs? | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a little unsure of c++ abi | 13:56 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: do we have any page about the different supported architectures of mer in wiki? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: yes | 13:57 |
| pq | there shouldn't be any C++ involved | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i don't remember which. search for armv8el ? | 13:57 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_architecture_naming ? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:57 |
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| faenil | who should I ask for the root issue? | 13:58 |
| pq | sure, android-libEGL passes C++ objects into hw lib functions, but I suspect they reinterpret_cast into C structs. Or hope. :-P | 13:58 |
| pq | but if that fails, then yeah, we could always build the wrapper for bionic | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:59 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm thinking reacting on eglSwapBuffers etc, so | 13:59 |
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| faenil | sudo zypper works, but the wiki says sudo should be automatic when you enter the sdk... | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | you need sudo inside the sdk | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | sudo is for entering | 14:03 |
| faenil | so I should enter with "sudo mer-chroot enter" ? | 14:05 |
| faenil | or I misunderstood your second sentence | 14:05 |
| faenil | or you just mean that it uses sudo automatically in the entering process, but then I have to specify sudo when I'm in the sdk? | 14:06 |
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| Stskeeps | ys | 14:06 |
| faenil | ok, clear | 14:06 |
| faenil | then the wiki has to be modified :P | 14:06 |
| Sage_ | 17:05.04 < faenil> so I should enter with "sudo mer-chroot enter" ? | 14:06 |
| Sage_ | ? | 14:06 |
| faenil | nvm Sage_ ;) | 14:06 |
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| Sage_ | I'm using just "/srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot enter | 14:07 |
| Sage_ | without sudo to enter | 14:07 |
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| faenil | yeah so am I | 14:07 |
| faenil | I just misunderstood Stskeeps's sentence "sudo is for entering" | 14:07 |
| faenil | but it's clear now | 14:07 |
| faenil | just the wiki is misleading...it's not clear at all...and it's doesn't use "sudo" before zypper commands | 14:08 |
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| * faenil is modifying the wiki, adding "sudo" in front of zypper commands | 14:10 | |
| faenil | it was already there in most of the zypper lines... | 14:11 |
| faenil | but not in the patterns block :) | 14:11 |
| faenil | done ;) | 14:11 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, what about the dbus folder error? should I file a bug? | 14:12 |
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| lbt | ty faenil | 14:14 |
| lbt | nb the "enter" is optional too | 14:15 |
| faenil | lbt, yeah enter is the default option, read that :) | 14:16 |
| faenil | strange I only had the /var/run/dbus error the first time I mounted... | 14:18 |
| faenil | gtg, won't file the bug about that right now, want to hear from someone in here before :) | 14:19 |
| faenil | just to avoid filing useless bugs :P | 14:19 |
| faenil | bbl ;) | 14:20 |
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| Sage_ | how to refer to category in mediawiki? | 14:21 |
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| Sage_ | ah, [[:Category:name]] | 14:24 |
| Sage_ | missed the first : | 14:25 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: Sage_ any hints what to look for making the depmod -a unneccasary? I've tried to compare kernel spec and my kickstart between sage's pandaboard work but couldn't spot anything too obvious.. | 14:42 |
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| Sage_ | kulve: I think it is possible just to drop it if you have /sbin/depmod present when building kernel | 14:43 |
| kulve | what do you mean by "drop it"..? | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | BuildRequires: kmod ? | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | or how was it? | 14:44 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: BuildRequires: kmod >= 9 | 14:45 |
| kulve | hmm.. My BuildRequires is way shorter than panda's. Let's add those. | 14:45 |
| Sage_ | kulve: then just remove the %post depmod -a lines I guess | 14:45 |
| Sage_ | kulve: see for a reference https://github.com/saukko/mer-kernel-adaptation | 14:46 |
| Sage_ | kulve: I pushed the most recent kernel packaging updates there | 14:46 |
| kulve | thanks. I guess the BuildRequires is the issue. I was mostly looking at what's done during or after the kernel is built | 14:46 |
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| kulve | that .spec looks a lot cleaner than the "real world examples". I guess I'll just redo the .spec based on that | 14:49 |
| Sage_ | kulve: well, I rebased most of my adaptations to that template already | 14:51 |
| Sage_ | kulve: but yes it should be cleaner and fixes welcome if you spot some :) | 14:51 |
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| kulve | it seems to assume bzImage for arm but I guess there's no way of knowing what to build for what | 15:00 |
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| Sage_ | kulve: the template shouldn't assume anything actually. | 15:24 |
| Sage_ | kulve: https://github.com/saukko/mer-kernel-adaptation/blob/master/kernel-adaptation-sample.yaml#L22 | 15:25 |
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| kulve | ah, it's define in the yaml.. | 15:27 |
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| kulve | I don't really understand, why there's both yaml and specs always, so I just putting .specs.. (if they would be autogenerated by obs, that would be a different thing..) | 15:27 |
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| Stskeeps | i sometimes wonder if spectacle could be turned into a handy ncurses app | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | / active editor.. | 15:28 |
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| * Stskeeps is going to try to see if he can boot mer/systemd over nfs.. | 15:31 | |
| kulve | Sage_: should the .spec/yaml run "make oldconfig" after copying the config in place? In my case it didn't have nearly all required features before running "make oldconfig" | 15:31 |
| Sage_ | kulve: it should not run it by default imo. check https://github.com/saukko/mer-kernel-adaptation/blob/master/README | 15:33 |
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| faenil | back :) | 16:05 |
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| faenil | sb2 -t nemo-n950 -m sdk-install -R zypper ref -----------> "Can't open /var/run/zypp.pid in mode w" | 16:32 |
| faenil | I have to say I did not have all those problems last time I reinstalled Mer SDK :P | 16:33 |
| faenil | though there's the fix in the Wiki page for this one :) | 16:34 |
| faenil | which is most likely linked to the other problem I had earlies | 16:35 |
| faenil | earlier | 16:35 |
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| * zuh notes that the problem faenil had was step four of https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#Step-by-step_Setup | 17:20 | |
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| chinmaya | Stskeeps, ping | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | pong | 17:40 |
| chinmaya | i want to look around the mer development | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 17:40 |
| chinmaya | i installed the application sdk | 17:40 |
| chinmaya | sorry , the platform sdk | 17:41 |
| chinmaya | from this wiki page , https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:41 |
| chinmaya | i was working in the meego project and want to contribute to mer , by learning HTML5 , QML etc | 17:42 |
| chinmaya | so what should be the next step | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's good :) you can also look in our bugzilla and there look for tasks to do | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | do you have any devices by chance? | 17:42 |
| chinmaya | i dont have any device | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | alright, so, did you try to make a image yet? | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | of any kind, like the SDK guide says | 17:43 |
| chinmaya | i have completed all the steps mentioned in the above wiki page | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | regarding qml, i think it's best to install qt sdk and try that out | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | and use the already non-mer-specific guides | 17:45 |
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| chinmaya | Stskeeps, this is how it looks now in console http://wstaw.org/w/1nbB/ | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | looks correct | 17:48 |
| chinmaya | how to install qt and qml inside mer | 17:48 |
| chinmaya | should i install the SB2 ? | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | for example, yes | 17:49 |
| chinmaya | when i run osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com ls , it asks for username and password , and says HTTP error | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | you need to get a meego.com account and ask lbt, xfade to enable it | 17:50 |
| chinmaya | ok | 17:51 |
| chinmaya | also a mer account , for the https://api.ci.merproject.org , if it is required ? | 17:51 |
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| Stskeeps | that's a seperate system and not really for humans :) | 17:52 |
| chinmaya | apart from the bugzilla , are there any current projects on mer , which i can look | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's projects like Nemo and Plasma Active on top of mer | 17:53 |
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| chinmaya | plasma active of kde ? | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 17:54 |
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| chinmaya | lbt_, xfade , can you please create an account on https://api.pub.meego.com ? | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | chinmaya: they need your meego.com login | 17:58 |
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| Stskeeps | evening cristi | 18:13 |
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| cristi | hi Stskeeps | 18:14 |
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| kulve | cristi: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 19:09 |
| kulve | some updates there | 19:09 |
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| kulve | although I just rewrote the kerne's .spec and although it did build, I haven't tested if it actually boots.. | 19:09 |
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| chinmaya | lbt_, xfade , can you please create an account on https://api.pub.meego.com ? created a meego username -> chinmayapadhi | 19:29 |
| cristi | kulve: cool! | 19:30 |
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| rcg | anyone familiar with upower in here? | 19:39 |
| cristi | kulve: just a small hint, instead of manually setting the git SHA you could use something like "git log | head -1 | cut -c 8-14" in the wiki | 19:40 |
| cristi | depending how many characters we put in the version string | 19:41 |
| cristi | maybe we could have an update script doing all that automatically | 19:43 |
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| rcg | what is upower part of? | 19:57 |
| rcg | err, systemd that is | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | systemd is in mer | 19:57 |
| rcg | alright.. i tracked down the suspending issue in plasma active | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | send a patch in gerrit | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | just saw in #active | 19:59 |
| rcg | right.. quite some time ago i did this but well.. lets see how much i remember ;) | 20:00 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps: right, took some time but i pushed the change to gerrit: http://review.merproject.org/#change,886 | 20:42 |
| rcg | however, you will likely find things i still need to change ;) | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | k | 20:42 |
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