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iekku | morning | 03:29 |
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Bostik | yawning | 04:09 |
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dm8tbr | moaning | 04:18 |
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sonach | morning | 04:33 |
zchydem | morning | 04:33 |
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Stskeeps | morn iekku, Bostik, dm8tbr, sonach and zchydem | 04:41 |
deztructor | morning | 04:43 |
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Stskeeps | zchydem: good luck on your first work day at Jolla :) | 04:48 |
zuh | Stskeeps: is it needed?-) | 04:51 |
Stskeeps | zuh: information overload headaches are always a problem :P | 04:52 |
zchydem | Stskeeps: thanks! | 04:52 |
Bostik | absence of misfortune or good luck? | 04:53 |
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Stskeeps | hehe, a bit of both | 04:56 |
* Stskeeps grabs some morning coffee and a nemo vm image | 04:57 | |
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Stskeeps | moin mikhas | 05:04 |
mikhas | moin | 05:04 |
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Stskeeps | iamer: Info: Installing: ca-certificates +++++ [ 32/182]multi_c_rehash: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | iekku: do we have a circular dependency somewhere? | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | err. | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | phaeron: | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | @@$ | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | :P | 05:25 |
ljp | i should probably finish my sensors reviews someday | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | i'm wondering how to feasibly include sensors into a virtual machine | 05:26 |
Stskeeps | as to test rotation etc | 05:26 |
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Stskeeps | i guess qemu-kvm may be only way | 05:26 |
ljp | we had simulator working, but its a pain | 05:27 |
ljp | not sure if that code got released, was part of creator I think | 05:27 |
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Stskeeps | think i've seen some | 05:27 |
Stskeeps | why a pain, out of curiousity? | 05:28 |
ljp | it'll never really work like on a device | 05:28 |
ljp | it only supported 1 g :) as opposed to 2/4/8 g on real device | 05:29 |
ljp | accel that is | 05:29 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:29 |
Stskeeps | my aim with what i'm doing atm is so that it's possible to develop a wayland based platform without necessarily having a device that runs it | 05:30 |
Stskeeps | as that's a big showstopper for many that want to make the leap | 05:30 |
Stskeeps | and a belief that you can't iterate ui fast enough without a stable hw adaptation.. | 05:32 |
ljp | well, it sure makes things easier | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | but naturally it's not a total device replacement | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | colors are different on a pc screen versus amoled, as an example | 05:33 |
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Stskeeps | ljp: do you have any further opinions if sensorfw makes sense in a qt5 environment? | 05:40 |
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ljp | it does. it includes a daemon, and hardware adaptations | 05:42 |
ljp | and an easy configuration. | 05:42 |
Stskeeps | ok, so i should make that a priority to get building for qt5 and it's dependencies | 05:42 |
Stskeeps | is there plugins for it in qt5 at the moment? | 05:43 |
Stskeeps | i guess if there's a shed of harmattan support.. | 05:43 |
ljp | the qtmobility meego plugin would need to be ported | 05:43 |
Stskeeps | ok | 05:43 |
ljp | ya, no harmattan or symbian stuff in qt5 | 05:43 |
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Bostik | timoph: that's actually on display on Jersey (the Channel island) :) | 05:46 |
timoph | :D | 05:46 |
situ | Morning everyone | 05:47 |
Stskeeps | morn situ | 05:47 |
Bostik | a nice, small museum dedicated to "how in the name of holy hell is this done?" | 05:47 |
timoph | sounds cool | 05:48 |
saunabad | timoph: morning, i think i've heard that violin before... x) | 05:48 |
timoph | x) | 05:48 |
mikhas | ljp, the witch is dead! | 05:49 |
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Bostik | timoph: the two works I remember best were the "Mona Lisa repainted inside needle's eye" and "hummingbird nest with spotted eggs built on cross-section of human hair" | 05:50 |
Bostik | serious wtf-kery | 05:51 |
timoph | need to find an excuse to travel there | 05:53 |
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niqt | good morning | 06:05 |
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Sage_ | Corrupted storable file (binary v2.7) at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/fd_retrieve.al) line 398, at ./bs_worker line 742 | 06:29 |
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Sage_ | lbt_away, Stskeeps: ^ something wrong with mer next | 06:30 |
Sage_ | or cobs | 06:30 |
Sage_ | already rebuild and issue still persists | 06:30 |
Stskeeps | what arch? | 06:30 |
rcg-work | morning all | 06:30 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: i586 and armv7hl at least | 06:31 |
Stskeeps | ok | 06:31 |
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Kelteseth | hey | 06:32 |
Stskeeps | lo Kelteseth | 06:32 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: all workers or just some? | 06:32 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: and armv7l seems as well not all, just some packages | 06:32 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: no idea about the worker as that is full message :) | 06:32 |
Stskeeps | ok | 06:32 |
Stskeeps | and lbt's abroad.. | 06:32 |
Kelteseth | why is the wiki down? | 06:33 |
Stskeeps | Kelteseth: works for me | 06:33 |
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jussi | Kelteseth: because you broke it? :P | 06:33 |
Kelteseth | Unable to load page Problem occurred while loading the URL https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK Connection terminated unexpectedly | 06:33 |
Stskeeps | Kelteseth: works for me | 06:34 |
jussi | wfm | 06:34 |
Kelteseth | lol 0.o | 06:34 |
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rem | hi, is there any self-check script available in mer sdk ? | 06:36 |
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smita_ | hi..i am new to mer and i get .rej file..how can i proceed with it?as it goes in BUILD, how can i change it? | 06:43 |
phaeron | Stskeeps: I haven't seen that issue in my testing. how did you trigger it ? | 06:43 |
Stskeeps | phaeron: mic run | 06:44 |
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phaeron | hmm. ca-certificates requires multi_c_rehash and that requires libcrypto.so.10 which is provided by openssl-libs-1.0.1c-1.1.i486 | 06:49 |
phaeron | Stskeeps: where's the problem | 06:50 |
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phaeron | ah | 06:50 |
phaeron | openssl-libs-1.0.1c-1.1.i486 reqires ca-certificates | 06:51 |
phaeron | oops | 06:51 |
phaeron | Stskeeps: would requiring multi_c_rehash in post and postun only fix it | 06:51 |
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Stskeeps | possibly | 07:00 |
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niqt | someone uses mer for to do a smart-tv ? | 07:02 |
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Stskeeps | niqt: it can be used for that | 07:08 |
niqt | Stkeeps: yes, but i would to know if someone has tried in real case | 07:10 |
phaeron | Stskeeps: which kickstart did you use so I can test | 07:10 |
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Stskeeps | sec | 07:14 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/zephyr-i586-vm.ks | 07:14 |
phaeron | Stskeeps: ok will test if the Requires(post) fixes it | 07:14 |
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rem | I manage to miss connectivity during merSDK upgrade, is there a way to rollback to previous ? | 07:15 |
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phaeron | Stskeeps: Error <creator>: Failed to find package 'openssh-clients' : No package(s) available to install with that kickstart unmodified | 07:24 |
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Stskeeps | phaeron: -A i686 | 07:25 |
phaeron | hmm you have a i486 repo there which made me thing i486 | 07:25 |
Stskeeps | yeah, sorry | 07:26 |
Stskeeps | :P | 07:26 |
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phaeron | thx | 07:26 |
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phaeron | Stskeeps: that seems to have fixed the installation order. will send to gerrit | 07:56 |
Stskeeps | thank you | 07:57 |
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phaeron | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/chusM10y just in case you spot something else | 07:58 |
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Stskeeps | looks fine | 07:58 |
phaeron | yeah previously ca-certificates was package number 32 | 07:58 |
phaeron | Stskeeps: new changelog entry or just add entry to previous one ? | 07:59 |
Stskeeps | new changelog entry | 07:59 |
Stskeeps | it was already merged, so | 07:59 |
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phaeron | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/882 | 08:06 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 08:07 |
Stskeeps | i'll probably merge soon | 08:07 |
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alterego | dm8tbr: neat, I never actually tried it on the exo, looks nice :) What's the refresh like :D | 08:50 |
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faenil | morning people! | 09:20 |
Stskeeps | morn faenil | 09:20 |
faenil | hey Stskeeps | 09:20 |
faenil | been absent for a while, have to find some time to contribute again... | 09:21 |
faenil | lessons start today! yey, NOT | 09:22 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 09:22 |
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Stskeeps | phaeron: merging your fix | 09:34 |
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phaeron | thx | 09:38 |
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Stskeeps | Aard: can you show me packages belonging to accounts framework? | 09:43 |
Stskeeps | re discussion of accounts-in-mer | 09:43 |
Aard | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libaccounts-glib&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libaccounts-qt&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared | 09:45 |
Aard | base accounts framework | 09:45 |
* Stskeeps looks | 09:45 | |
Aard | that's the easy bit, the other parts are more tricky | 09:46 |
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Stskeeps | dependencies look sane | 09:47 |
Aard | I'm not yet at the part where you run away screaming | 09:47 |
Stskeeps | okay.. | 09:47 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:47 |
Stskeeps | what does KDE use for stuff like this? | 09:48 |
Aard | go here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Aaard%3Astaging%3Aaccounts | 09:48 |
Stskeeps | i'm not including krb5 | 09:48 |
Aard | the second bit is libsignon and libsignoncrypto-qt, which will pull in some crypto bits: cryptsetup-luks, cyrus-sasl, keyutils and krb5 | 09:48 |
Aard | what's the problem with krb5? | 09:49 |
Stskeeps | that dependency can probably be disabled anyway | 09:49 |
Stskeeps | okay, so the general rule is: is it a functionality that'll get excersised through the components that utilize it? | 09:49 |
Stskeeps | ie, does libsignon use krb5 in some way? | 09:50 |
Stskeeps | also, cyrus-sasl should use external db4, not it's own copy | 09:50 |
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faenil | gtg lesson about to start, see you later guys ;) | 09:52 |
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Stskeeps | Aard: what typically uses SASL? | 09:54 |
Aard | there are additional sasl-plugins to signon (which are not in this repository) | 09:54 |
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Stskeeps | ok | 09:55 |
Stskeeps | would this tie into qt mobility anywhere? | 09:56 |
Stskeeps | or qmf | 09:56 |
Aard | I'm not sure if qmf directly needs signon, checking that. I know that it needs the accounts-bits | 09:57 |
Stskeeps | ok | 09:57 |
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Stskeeps | accounts i don't mind as such | 09:57 |
Aard | ok, it seems that qmf uses the sasl signon plugins. sorry :p | 09:58 |
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w00t | MerSDK [burchr@localhost lipstick]$ git commit -a | 10:06 |
w00t | error: cannot run vi: No such file or directory | 10:06 |
w00t | lbt_away: ^ is that issue known? | 10:07 |
w00t | easily worked around with an export EDITOR=vim, just slightly strange that it defaults to that | 10:07 |
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jnikula | I've installed mer sdk under a debian stable virtual machine and now trying to do minimal n900 image as in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Getting_Started#N900 but mic fails with "Error <mount>: Error creating ext4 filesystem on disk /dev/loop101". I wonder do I have something wrong in my mer sdk setup or is debian stable too old? | 10:09 |
Stskeeps | 2.6.37 or higher if preffered | 10:10 |
jnikula | ok, good to know since stable has .32 | 10:10 |
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jnikula | hmm. Same error from 3.5.3 too | 10:21 |
jnikula | I'll try upgrading to debian/testing | 10:22 |
Stskeeps | ln -s /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab ? | 10:22 |
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jnikula | Stskeeps: thanks, now went forward. I did it under sdk chroot environment | 10:26 |
Stskeeps | yes | 10:26 |
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iekku | mer bug triage starting soon | 10:59 |
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mdfe_ | Stskeeps: hi | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | lo mdfe_ | 11:49 |
mdfe_ | any idea whats going wrong by 'Corrupted storable file (binary v2.7)' obs error messages? | 11:49 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you kick libXxf86vm, libedit and libxml2 from me? | 11:49 |
Stskeeps | mdfe_: uncertain | 11:49 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: not now, but after release, if it's ok | 11:49 |
Stskeeps | mdfe_: it might have been a out of space issue | 11:50 |
Stskeeps | mdfe_: it only happens on _next, right? | 11:50 |
mdfe_ | sadly not, it happens on all build targets | 11:50 |
mdfe_ | but mostly on mer next | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | uhh | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | that's not good | 11:51 |
mdfe_ | is lbt around? | 11:52 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: I'm facing that as well but only -next | 11:52 |
mdfe_ | it looks like an obs issue | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | he's .. well, we sent him to france | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:52 |
mdfe_ | hehe | 11:52 |
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mdfe_ | Sage_: hi | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | X-Fade: could you poke at the COBS workerS? | 11:52 |
Sage_ | phaeron around? ;) | 11:52 |
mdfe_ | Sage_: on kde:devel are also arm build targets affected | 11:53 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: in nemo it is in all targets :/ | 11:53 |
mdfe_ | ouch | 11:54 |
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* Sage_ ponders what https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv8el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore-next%3Ai586&repo_Mer_Core-next_armv7hl=1&unresolvable=1 means | 11:56 | |
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Sage_ | i.e., what broke now | 11:56 |
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mdfe_ | Sage_: triggering rebuild of a 'Corrupted storable file (binary v2.7)' package works after a while | 12:09 |
Stskeeps | perhaps a bad worker? | 12:09 |
mdfe_ | it looks so | 12:09 |
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alterego | Stskeeps: did we have a faily recent Qt update? | 12:22 |
Stskeeps | qt.4.8.1 or .2 | 12:22 |
alterego | Yes, from .1 to .2 | 12:23 |
Stskeeps | check gitweb | 12:23 |
alterego | Is this next or current? | 12:23 |
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Stskeeps | didn't update it in this | 12:23 |
alterego | My scratchbox target isn't pulling it in, so don't think it's looking at the right repo | 12:23 |
alterego | s/repo/repos/ | 12:23 |
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Stskeeps | good morning ChickenCutlass | 12:42 |
ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: hi | 12:42 |
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Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: btw, what time zone are you in? | 12:42 |
ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I am in Boston | 12:43 |
Stskeeps | alright | 12:43 |
ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: so whatever timezone that is :) | 12:43 |
ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: are you in London? | 12:43 |
Stskeeps | nah, warsaw | 12:43 |
ChickenCutlass | oh | 12:43 |
Stskeeps | i'm danish, but living in poland | 12:44 |
ChickenCutlass | I see | 12:44 |
Stskeeps | living on finnish timezone, it feels a bit like.. | 12:44 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:44 |
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jnikula | am I right that a tar package in project is a manual snapshot from upstream project pointed by URL in spec file? I noticed small diff between CE:MW:Shared/dsme/dsme-0.62.1.1.tar.gz and git://gitorious.org/meego-middleware/dsme.git | 13:11 |
Stskeeps | it should be a tarball or a tagged release, yes | 13:12 |
Stskeeps | if it's not equal, that's not good | 13:12 |
Stskeeps | anybody in changelog? | 13:12 |
Stskeeps | :) | 13:12 |
jnikula | looks like just a two top commits after latest tag | 13:13 |
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jnikula | Stskeeps: what do you think. Is it time to clone meego-middleware/dsme:master, apply patches from CE:MW:Shared/dsme on top of it and do update to CE:MW:Shared/dsme? I.e. new tar file, zero patches and version num | 13:17 |
Stskeeps | make sense | 13:17 |
Stskeeps | i doubt dsme upstream is alive anymore | 13:17 |
jnikula | unless tizen uses it :-) | 13:17 |
Stskeeps | i have doubts | 13:18 |
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w00t | jnikula: that's what we've been doing with other abandoned components in harmattan | 13:32 |
Stskeeps | jnikula: we have space in github nemomobile for dsme | 13:32 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps, lbt_away: cobs is really unstable atm. Could we drop armv7tnhl, mips and rest of the supports that were recently added? | 13:34 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: ok | 13:34 |
Sage_ | and reintroduce those back when the new obs is up. | 13:35 |
jnikula | w00t: Stskeeps: sounds like a good plan. We noticed with plundstr_ than e.g. patch 0009 doesn't have author information but otherwise patches 1-8 apply fine on top of git | 13:35 |
Sage_ | With the current way nemo doesn't happen anymore at least | 13:35 |
jnikula | w00t: Stskeeps: so time to clone git with full history, apply those 1-8 and 9 with stetson guessed author or something :-) | 13:35 |
Stskeeps | knok | 13:36 |
Stskeeps | ok | 13:36 |
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lbt_fr | o/ | 14:21 |
Stskeeps | o/ lbt_fr | 14:21 |
Stskeeps | lbt_fr: how's the cheese? | 14:21 |
lbt_fr | hey, just arrived | 14:22 |
iekku | :) | 14:22 |
lbt_fr | I think they're using the cheese to run their internet | 14:22 |
iekku | they didn't offer any cheese at airport? | 14:22 |
Stskeeps | lbt_fr: micenet! | 14:22 |
lbt_fr | goddam connection seems to be 80/443 only | 14:22 |
Stskeeps | lbt_fr: is this the wrong time to say that COBS is a smoking heap of flames? | 14:23 |
w00t | heheh. *g* | 14:23 |
lbt_fr | If I had port 22 I could do something | 14:24 |
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slaine | Doing a Meego install to look at Cedartrail hardware | 14:40 |
slaine | weird seeing the netbook ux again | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | it wasn't all bad | 14:40 |
slaine | I liked it alot | 14:40 |
w00t | slaine: tried nemo lately? :] | 14:41 |
slaine | w00t: not since the UI change, keep meaning to take another look | 14:41 |
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lbt_fr | phaeron: ping | 14:59 |
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phaeron | lbt_fr: yes | 15:03 |
phaeron | lbt_fr: powerhost is being hogged by sample-media package | 15:03 |
phaeron | from Project:KDE:VivaldiRelease/sample-media/armv8el/x86_64:pubworker04_1 | 15:04 |
Stskeeps | and has badhost events? | 15:05 |
lbt_fr | phaeron: it was running that last night I think | 15:06 |
Stskeeps | ssh to the worker and see what causes it? | 15:06 |
Stskeeps | it should say why it's a badhost event | 15:06 |
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phaeron | Stskeeps: yes badhost event: Project:KDE:VivaldiRelease/sample-media/armv8el/x86_64:pubworker04_1 | 15:07 |
phaeron | ok | 15:07 |
phaeron | let me figure out ssh to there | 15:07 |
phaeron | looks like date plus kernel oops .. | 15:08 |
phaeron | Mon Sep 24 15:08:51 UTC 2012 is that correct | 15:09 |
Stskeeps | looks fine-ish | 15:10 |
Stskeeps | how about kernel oops? | 15:10 |
phaeron | http://pastebin.com/vkCjMTcW | 15:11 |
phaeron | I ran sntp just to makesure | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | wow, talk about boom | 15:12 |
phaeron | nope not the issue | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | what project is that? | 15:12 |
phaeron | personality unkown , omg it has amnesia | 15:13 |
phaeron | 'Project:KDE:VivaldiRelease' repository 'Project_KDE_Mer_Extras_CE_MW_Shared_Mer_Core_armv7hl' | 15:13 |
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phaeron | also rpc timeout .. | 15:14 |
phaeron | wth | 15:14 |
phaeron | lbt_fr: reboot ? | 15:14 |
lbt_fr | sec | 15:17 |
lbt_fr | the way to reboot those workers is rather harsh | 15:17 |
lbt_fr | (sleep 5; echo b> /proc/sysctl_trigger) & exit | 15:18 |
lbt_fr | (check correct proc file) | 15:18 |
lbt_fr | this is w4 ? | 15:18 |
lbt_fr | that's rarely a problem | 15:18 |
phaeron | lbt_fr: yes powerhost | 15:19 |
phaeron | I don't know why it's blowing up like that | 15:19 |
lbt_fr | I'm setting up tunnels here | 15:19 |
lbt_fr | gimme a min | 15:19 |
Stskeeps | lbt_fr: that's not why you got sent to the alps ;p | 15:19 |
lbt_fr | *g* | 15:20 |
lbt_fr | it's all the rage here | 15:20 |
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phaeron | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=qmllauncher&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared&repository=Mer_Core_i586 | 15:26 |
phaeron | lbt_fr: I can't find which host returns that | 15:27 |
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* Stskeeps ponders idly if there's any qt5 terminal emulators | 15:45 | |
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Stskeeps | need one for my qt5-wayland environment.. | 15:52 |
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lbt_fr | phaeron: top of log: pubworker08 started "build qmllauncher.spec" at Thu Aug 30 01:54:21 UTC 2012. | 15:54 |
lbt_fr | sorry - notify is crap here | 15:54 |
phaeron | lbt_fr: was waiting for dispatcher to say something about it | 15:55 |
phaeron | lbt_fr: so that host is fubar too ? | 15:55 |
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sroedal | Stskeeps: there is, yat | 16:00 |
Stskeeps | ok | 16:00 |
Stskeeps | URL? | 16:00 |
Stskeeps | does it have tarball releases by chance? | 16:00 |
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sroedal | Stskeeps: https://github.com/jorgen/yat | 16:01 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 16:02 |
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lbt_fr | hmm | 16:11 |
lbt_fr | something was working | 16:11 |
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lbt | phaeron: hey | 16:17 |
phaeron | hey | 16:17 |
phaeron | ETOOMANYLBT | 16:18 |
lbt | ROFL | 16:18 |
Stskeeps | phaeron: >= 0? | 16:18 |
lbt | :P | 16:18 |
Stskeeps | ;) | 16:18 |
phaeron | hehe | 16:18 |
lbt | that cloning work is coming along a treat | 16:18 |
lbt_fr | sure is | 16:18 |
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Stskeeps | phaeron: i had exactly the same thought to write that | 16:19 |
phaeron | is that good or bad :D | 16:19 |
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lbt | somewhere else, not here | 16:19 |
lbt | so ... screw you, you stupid french ISP | 16:20 |
lbt | and nested openvpn "just works" | 16:20 |
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lbt | so... phaeron ... phost4 | 16:23 |
lbt | looks ok to me | 16:23 |
phaeron | lbt: you rebooted ? | 16:24 |
lbt | no - there's something wrong somehere | 16:24 |
lbt | the dmesg looks sane | 16:24 |
lbt | watching a build | 16:24 |
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lbt | phaeron: I have no idea why phost4 is dead | 16:33 |
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lbt | I wonder if something has changed | 16:34 |
phaeron | lbt: the filesystem on the worker lvm looks corrupted to me | 16:35 |
phaeron | lbt: otoh adam was pushing some updated yesterday | 16:35 |
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lbt | OK - I need to go get some food | 16:37 |
lbt | it could be that as it's mounting ro after isn't it | 16:37 |
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phaeron | lbt: yes , the errors look worrying | 16:43 |
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kulve | gst works on rpi with omxh264dec but I guess there's no hw accelerated gst sink? | 17:26 |
Stskeeps | probably not | 17:28 |
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Stskeeps | sroedal: i presume backspace and enter is business as usual not working? :) | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | (ctrl-m does!) | 17:56 |
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zuh | RFC: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#Host_SDK_Development_using_SB2 | 18:09 |
zuh | kulve: you promised to test the steps? | 18:09 |
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lbt | phaeron: so.... | 18:13 |
phaeron | lbt: so | 18:13 |
lbt | hmm | 18:13 |
lbt | nice steak btw | 18:14 |
lbt | isn't the fs fresh each time | 18:15 |
phaeron | lbt: does it mkfs ? | 18:16 |
kulve | zuh: will do, but not today anymore.. | 18:16 |
lbt | checking build script | 18:17 |
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sroedal | Stskeeps: hmmm, think that worked for me | 18:22 |
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Stskeeps | sroedal: also qmime.h was removed, but i should send a patch.. | 18:23 |
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lbt | gah | 18:25 |
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Stskeeps | Sage_: happen to know if there's a way to wait for a socket file to appear? | 18:35 |
* Stskeeps ponders if he should add systemd socket activation for qml compositor.. | 18:36 | |
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roeluu | hi | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | heya roeluu | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | roeluu: welcome to #mer :) so what brings you here? | 18:44 |
roeluu | i don't know ^^ | 18:45 |
roeluu | i like the project :) | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 18:45 |
rcg | evening all | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time, roeluu | 18:45 |
roeluu | ok | 18:45 |
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roeluu | is there already a release? | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | mer has had several releases | 18:46 |
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Stskeeps | it's just a core, so the interesting part is the UIs that build on top of it | 18:46 |
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roeluu | ah ok | 18:47 |
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roeluu | are you one of the developer? | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | yes, project architect | 18:47 |
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rcg | how's it going? | 18:48 |
Stskeeps | rcg: good, working on wayland vm tonight | 18:48 |
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rcg | Stskeeps: yay sounds cool, so the official path is to eventually migrate to wayland? | 18:50 |
Stskeeps | well, it's just another offering mer should be able to do | 18:50 |
rcg | right, sounds sensible | 18:50 |
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roeluu | wayland is a display server protocol like x server right? | 18:51 |
Stskeeps | yes | 18:52 |
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rcg | btw. what would be the preferred way to execute something with root permissions as normal user on mer? | 18:52 |
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lbt | you mean suid ? | 18:53 |
lbt | or more security framework | 18:53 |
rcg | background is that i want to execute pm-suspend on plasma active which can only be run as root | 18:53 |
rcg | and the motivation for this is that i want to add a simple icon for suspending my tablet | 18:54 |
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fk_lx | hi all | 18:58 |
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Stskeeps | the fun of prototyping stops when you have to add systemd integration to signal your compositor is alive and accepting connections | 19:18 |
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fk_lx | when I am learning more about Mer I realize how many things have changed in GNU/Linux during last years | 19:27 |
fk_lx | I am beginning to wonder where I was all the time ;-) | 19:27 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 19:27 |
Stskeeps | having a life? ;) | 19:27 |
fk_lx | not even sure about that :-) | 19:28 |
fk_lx | rather some kind of void | 19:28 |
fk_lx | in some kind of void | 19:28 |
lbt_ | reboot pub04 ... give up on trying to solve it | 19:32 |
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Stskeeps | well at least qmlcompositor was easy to split out | 19:36 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: there are those pre conditions and also those x.socket unit files | 19:41 |
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Stskeeps | ok, adding systemd integration was surprisingily easy | 19:54 |
Stskeeps | two lines of in .pro file, and two lines in .cpp file | 19:54 |
Stskeeps | and bam, it notified when compositor was up | 19:55 |
Stskeeps | :P | 19:55 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: you sound surprised! :P | 19:55 |
Stskeeps | yes, a bit | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | maybe this lennart guy is on to something | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | :P | 19:56 |
ali1234 | the other day i found it necessary to install fedora in a VM and then ssh in to to. and every time i do there is a 10 second delay, presumably caused by systemd starting ssh on demand | 19:56 |
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* Stskeeps ponders on handy ways to kill the damn cursor blink.. | 19:57 | |
lbt | ali1234: nope | 19:57 |
ali1234 | nope? | 19:57 |
lbt | ssh on demand is instant | 19:57 |
lbt | possibly due to 1st run keygen ? | 19:57 |
w00t | Stskeeps: isn't fbcon the root of the problem? | 19:58 |
lbt | or more likely reverse dns failure | 19:58 |
ali1234 | no, it does it every time. and it can't really be literally instant | 19:58 |
Stskeeps | w00t: that's part of it, yes | 19:58 |
* Stskeeps sets console to ttyS0 and begs for forgiveness. | 19:58 | |
Stskeeps | bah, no | 19:59 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/zephyr-1.png | 20:01 |
w00t | well, erm. that's interesting. | 20:02 |
w00t | you fixed it? | 20:02 |
Stskeeps | fixed what | 20:02 |
Stskeeps | cursor blink? not really | 20:02 |
w00t | I see no cursor | 20:02 |
Stskeeps | lucky shot | 20:03 |
Stskeeps | :P | 20:03 |
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lbt | initrd is the same | 20:04 |
lbt | kernel is the same | 20:04 |
Stskeeps | next step, qt components.. | 20:05 |
phaeron | lbt: maybe the package is big enough it filled the fs | 20:06 |
* w00t hides | 20:06 | |
ali1234 | what hardware are you targeting these days? just virtual machines? | 20:06 |
Stskeeps | how big tmpfs? | 20:06 |
ali1234 | s/you/"the users"/ | 20:06 |
Stskeeps | ali1234: starting with virtual machine because you have to have a basis for development of UI when hardware adaptation is unstable | 20:07 |
Stskeeps | ali1234: and then targets are raspberry pi, intel hw, wayland on libhybris | 20:07 |
Stskeeps | ie, android gpu | 20:07 |
ali1234 | ah raspberry pi | 20:07 |
ali1234 | i must get one of those some time | 20:07 |
Stskeeps | w00t: do you build with demos? | 20:08 |
w00t | Stskeeps: demos? | 20:09 |
lbt | 12G tmpfs, 671M used | 20:09 |
Stskeeps | nm | 20:09 |
w00t | :) | 20:09 |
* w00t likes problems that go away | 20:09 | |
* lbt hands w00t obs problem | 20:10 | |
* lbt likes problems that go away too | 20:10 | |
* w00t dodges | 20:10 | |
w00t | you'll have to wait until our next f2f meetup - it's a lot harder to dodge irl :P | 20:10 |
* lbt practices server hurling | 20:11 | |
lbt | anyhow... I've got to prep for tomorrow ... sorry | 20:11 |
phaeron | I'll take a fresh look later from home | 20:11 |
lbt | cobs is going to be stuck for any large packages or anything that deps on them | 20:11 |
lbt | phaeron: it could be in initrd | 20:12 |
lbt | but that's not changed | 20:12 |
phaeron | lbt: but cobs has other issues right now as well | 20:12 |
lbt | what ? | 20:13 |
phaeron | lbt: can we disable that kde package and see if it still breaks for other power packages | 20:13 |
Stskeeps | lbt: there's some kind of bad worker error | 20:13 |
phaeron | lbt: the sortable hash thing | 20:13 |
Stskeeps | but let's have lbt prep for tomorrow instead | 20:13 |
phaeron | yes | 20:13 |
lbt | yeah | 20:13 |
phaeron | ok | 20:13 |
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sebas | where's the bootloader config to be found? | 21:17 |
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CosmoHill | /boot or /etc i think | 21:19 |
sebas | yeah ... I got so far, but still didn't find it =) | 21:19 |
sebas | thanks though... | 21:19 |
Stskeeps | sebas: belongs in hw adaptation, so, what hw adaptation? | 21:19 |
CosmoHill | what loader is it? | 21:19 |
sebas | Stskeeps: x86 | 21:19 |
Stskeeps | sebas: /boot then | 21:20 |
sebas | zypper dup updated the kernel, but didn't update the bootloader it seems | 21:20 |
Stskeeps | probably first partition | 21:20 |
sebas | parse error | 21:21 |
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sebas | the bootloader seems to be looking for the old vmlinuz-xxx | 21:21 |
CosmoHill | i thought most distros all used vmlinuz which was a link to the current kernel | 21:22 |
sebas | Stskeeps: in which file can I point it to the new kernel? | 21:22 |
Stskeeps | sebas: extlinux/extlinux.conf in there | 21:22 |
sebas | or is that more involved than just changing a textfile | 21:22 |
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sebas | Stskeeps: aye, coolio | 21:23 |
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sebas | Stskeeps: meh, the kernel location in extlinux.conf was wrong, I fixed it, but it still won't boot | 21:32 |
sebas | I get the flashing bootloader menu | 21:32 |
sebas | can tab to change the kernel location and commandline, but it's a) the correct kernel filename, b) won't boot | 21:32 |
Stskeeps | sebas: tab early enough in boot? | 21:32 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 21:32 |
Stskeeps | did it update the modules too? | 21:32 |
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sebas | Stskeeps: yes, /lib/modules/ matches vmlinuz matches what I put in extlinux.conf | 21:33 |
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Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr | 21:47 |
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phaeron | so that kde package was blocking everything | 22:25 |
Stskeeps | oh? | 22:26 |
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phaeron | stuff is building fine on worker 4 now | 22:26 |
Stskeeps | ok, interesting | 22:26 |
lbt_away | so you just removed that build? | 22:26 |
lbt_away | job | 22:27 |
phaeron | lbt_away: yes | 22:28 |
phaeron | though I notice this before doing that https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=Project%3AKDE%3AVivaldiRelease | 22:28 |
Stskeeps | huh, no repos? | 22:29 |
phaeron | yeah I don't know why | 22:29 |
Stskeeps | bizaaare | 22:29 |
Stskeeps | leftover job maybe? | 22:29 |
phaeron | so the build was failing because it couldn't get anything to build with | 22:29 |
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