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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:59 |
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| kulve | is gst-plugins-good somewhere? | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=gst-plugins-good&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared | 07:15 |
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| * dm8tbr ponders if opus will get moved to plugins-good upstream | 07:16 | |
| kulve | Stskeeps: thanks | 07:17 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps: May I ask what the workaround for the black screen problem in Virtualbox is (Nemo Mobile image)? | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: sec | 07:23 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: OK | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | host-alt-f2 , su, password is 'nemo', zypper in mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | and reboot | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | er | 07:23 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if that's right | 07:23 | |
| Stskeeps | no, not reboot, killall Xorg | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | ideally you need to run installer-shell | 07:24 |
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| Superpelican | OK, thanks will try later | 07:24 |
| Superpelican | Currently have to do some other stuff first :( | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | k | 07:25 |
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| Kypeli | Stskeeps, Superpelican: I think it's just host + F2 (black terminal screen). | 07:41 |
| Superpelican | The way to get to the CLI is the same in all Linux distro's right? | 07:42 |
| Superpelican | I'll do some searching | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | .. ish :) | 07:42 |
| Kypeli | Superpelican: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing -- look at the bottom | 07:42 |
| iekku | morning | 07:45 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 08:21 |
| * Stskeeps is having a day off | 08:21 | |
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| Superpelican | Right Ctrl(my hostkey)+alt+f2 send my whole OS to CLI mode again :( | 08:35 |
| Superpelican | Alt+F2 didn't do anything | 08:36 |
| Superpelican | No, I mean just hostkey+f2 | 08:36 |
| dm8tbr | your virtualization software should offer a way to send that to the guest | 08:36 |
| rcg | morning | 08:36 |
| Superpelican | Yes Virtualbox said my keyboard was "captured" by the guest | 08:37 |
| Superpelican | But maybe pressing my hostkey for a second time "uncaptures" the keyboard again | 08:37 |
| rcg | uhm.. aint that actually what the host key is supposed to do? | 08:38 |
| dm8tbr | https://www.google.com/search?q=ctrl-alt-f1+virtualbox+guest | 08:39 |
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| Superpelican | "First press F1, then Ctrl and then Alt. Your host OS won't pick it up but the guest OS will." like: http://www.bramschoenmakers.nl/node/323 says didn't work either | 09:00 |
| Superpelican | My whole system dropped to CLI AGAIN :( | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | f2 | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | and adjust your host key to f10 or something | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | linux is hard | 09:01 |
| rcg | Superpelican, you are using virtual box for virtualization right? | 09:03 |
| Superpelican | Yes | 09:03 |
| rcg | iirc host key is just one of the control keys.. might give it quick try to just use the other control key? | 09:03 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: from (nearly) anyone else I would accept such a blank statement, but when it comes to vbox and its key-sequence hijacking... | 09:04 |
| Superpelican | The first time I tried it with left CTRL, but that also sent my whole system to CLI | 09:04 |
| rcg | make sure that your keyboard is actually "captured" by the vm | 09:05 |
| rcg | so that keyboard input ends up in the vm | 09:05 |
| Bostik | "this one works here now.. oh sorry, we didn't cover that one so now you're on the console" | 09:05 |
| Bostik | rcg: I've had vbox capture *most* of my keyboard input, only to find that some ctrl-alt-FOO happens to hit host | 09:06 |
| Bostik | it's very annoying | 09:06 |
| rcg | Bostik, i see | 09:06 |
| rcg | sorry, don't have virtual box here myself right now.. got my virtualbox setup at work | 09:06 |
| Bostik | it's also incredibly frustrating if you're enslaved to a box with crappy display hardware and flaky driver; a hung display thanks to "wrong" TTY blanking/unblanking is not fun | 09:07 |
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| rcg | iirc using the host key can trigger also something with respect to keyboard capture state? | 09:08 |
| rcg | well, http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html says you should just use <host key> + f2 | 09:09 |
| rcg | which should then translate to ctrl+alt+f2 in the vm | 09:09 |
| rcg | Superpelican, so just try <right ctrl>+f2 | 09:11 |
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| Superpelican | But pressing the hostkey (even in combination with f2) "uncaptures" my keyboard | 09:20 |
| Superpelican | I have already tried <right ctrl>+f2 | 09:20 |
| Superpelican | Nothing happens | 09:20 |
| Superpelican | Tried it again: succes ;) | 09:20 |
| Superpelican | Thanks everyone! | 09:20 |
| Superpelican | Wait is the loginname? | 09:21 |
| Superpelican | nemo? | 09:21 |
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| rcg | user: root password: nemo | 09:23 |
| rcg | should work | 09:23 |
| Superpelican | thx | 09:24 |
| rcg | and, yes, the "normal" user is nemo | 09:24 |
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| rcg | yw btw | 09:26 |
| Superpelican | But if I install something now, the next time I boot the Nemo image it gone, right? | 09:26 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: what is the next step after installing the mesa driver? And killing X11? | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | enjoy? | 09:29 |
| Superpelican | Oh, I see Xorg automatically restarts | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | or run installer-shell if ypu have a hd in the vm | 09:30 |
| Superpelican | what is a "hd"? | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | harddisk | 09:30 |
| Superpelican | Oh, so the command "installer-shell" installs the Nemo image to my virtual HDD? | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:31 |
| Superpelican | The fix worked BTW, thx everyone! :D | 09:32 |
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| Superpelican | I assume Nemo Mobile runs faster and smoother on real HW? | 09:34 |
| Superpelican | Well actually the browser is quite fast, but the UI is sometimes still a little laggy, but I think that's also because I don't have a touch screen ;) | 09:38 |
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| Superpelican | Does Nemo Mobile Browser support Flash (I don't really care about Flash on Mobile devices, but am just interested as I heard that the N900 does/did support Flash)? | 09:43 |
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| Stskeeps | no, its a oss stack | 10:02 |
| dm8tbr | also the 'flash' on the n900 was probably this old flash-lite stuff | 10:04 |
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| dm8tbr | flash is dead, especially on mobile devices. thank $preferred_deity | 10:05 |
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| Bostik | one could, out of curiosity, try how lightspark fares | 10:05 |
| Bostik | although I'd just take wrapper around youtube-dl since I suspect it's the prime reason for the request | 10:06 |
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| dm8tbr | yes | 10:08 |
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| dm8tbr | also youtube seems to have a lot of stuff available as webm by now... | 10:08 |
| Bostik | true enough | 10:11 |
| ShadowJK | It was full flash 9 | 10:11 |
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| Superpelican | Well I actually didn't request Flash, neither do I care that it's not supported (I personally think Flash is awful, the only reason I have Flash still installed on my system is because of, not all YouTube videos use HTML5 yet. As soon as they are all converted to HTML, I'll delete Flash) | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | Especially on mobile devices you really don't want Flash | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | Drains battery and crashes a lot | 10:27 |
| Superpelican | Well at least that's what I've read | 10:28 |
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| * ShadowJK has that adblock-css thing on his N900, makes every flash thing a tap-to-play box | 10:34 | |
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| lbt | morning all | 10:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning lbt | 10:42 |
| * lbt looks at quickbuild some more | 10:43 | |
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| kulve | there was some talk about hardfp vs. softfp performance yesterday (or day before that). In quake the difference is 8fps (20 vs 28) which is quite significant, imo: http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance#Results_4 | 11:14 |
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| ShadowJK | Quake does use alot of floating point | 11:17 |
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| Superpelican | Seems like they're 2 terminals apps in Nemo Mobile Image: "FingerTerm" & "Terminal" | 11:18 |
| Superpelican | Does anyone know why and what's the difference between the 2? | 11:18 |
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| Superpelican | ***Superpelican wishes he had a smartphone to run Nemo Mobile on | 11:21 |
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| Superpelican | Oh, that trick didn't work :( | 11:22 |
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| Superpelican | Nemo Mobile has a really nice package management app! | 11:25 |
| Superpelican | I'm still suprised how much there is already done in Meego/Mer/Nemo Mobile system! ;) | 11:26 |
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| Superpelican | Just tested Nemo Mobile IRC app ;) | 11:33 |
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| Superpelican | Installer-shell says my Virtual HDD is too small and my HDD has to be at least 3GB. But my Virtual HDD is 8GB! | 11:35 |
| Superpelican | Maybe I should create a Virtual HDD with fixed size? My current is Dynamic size | 11:36 |
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| vgrade | kulve, thanks for the link to that hardfp banchmark | 11:47 |
| kulve | vgrade: np :) | 11:47 |
| kulve | CE:Adaptation:RaspberryPi works now somewhat. It boots and I managed to compile those hello_* examples from the firmware and they all work. I.e. some gles2 and omx examples. 1920x1080 big buck bunny played really smoothly | 11:49 |
| kulve | too bad I can't get anything else to work.. Like gstreamer | 11:50 |
| vgrade | kulve, last ones I saw were https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/HardFloat/Benchmarks201205 . Which showed no real difference in a lot of benchmarks | 11:50 |
| vgrade | kulve, did you compile on the Pi or in Mer SDK? | 11:53 |
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| kulve | on the pi.. (I'm too lazy to start wondering about SB2 yet) | 11:54 |
| kulve | I guess those examples could be added to gfx-rpi since they were quite simple to compile.. | 11:56 |
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| Superpelican | Running: "sb2-init -d -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-core /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc" as https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK says still gives me this error: "which: no armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc in (/opt/cross/bin) | 12:39 |
| Superpelican | /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc doesn't exist | 12:39 |
| Superpelican | Failed to configure /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc" | 12:39 |
| Superpelican | Could anyone help me? | 12:39 |
| Superpelican | I really want to get started building packages for Mer Project ;) | 12:39 |
| lbt | Superpelican: did you install the 7hl version of the SB2-tools ? | 12:42 |
| Superpelican | I've already installed the ARMV7HL pattern | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | Like the platform_sdk wiki says | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | Wait a second, maybe I've only installed the ARMv7L pattern | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | And not the HL pattern | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | Give me a sec | 12:43 |
| Superpelican | I think that's the cause | 12:44 |
| lbt | me too | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | BTW the Mer SDK saves it state when you unmount it, right? | 12:44 |
| Superpelican | So I don't have to install all the stuff every time I use the SDK? | 12:45 |
| lbt | oh, yes | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | Lbt: Thx, I've now succesfully configured SB2 | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | :-D | 12:45 |
| lbt | think of it as a small VM | 12:45 |
| Superpelican | Is there a big difference between ARMv7L and ARMv7HL? | 12:46 |
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| Superpelican | If I compile & build Python for ARMv7L it won't run on ARMv7HL? | 12:46 |
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| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/ARM | 12:47 |
| Superpelican | Because SB2-init has now set ARMv7HL as target | 12:47 |
| lbt | you can't mix the code | 12:47 |
| Superpelican | So if I compile something for ARMv7L it will run on ARMv7HL, but not vice versa? | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | Because ARMv7 has no hard floatingpoint thing? | 12:48 |
| Superpelican | I mean ARMv7L | 12:48 |
| dm8tbr | alterego: thanks again. Now my ExoPC is no longer collecting dust but does something useful... http://www.bfst.de/20120923_001.jpg | 12:49 |
| lbt | "yes" (approximately) | 12:49 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: rofl | 12:49 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: what? *innocentlook* | 12:50 |
| rcg | dm8tbr, lol.. next step down would then be a door stopper? | 12:50 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: nb .. is Merbot fully migrated now ? | 12:51 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: yes, the last step was the rproxy | 12:51 |
| Superpelican | lbt: so it's better to set "ARMv7L" as target? | 12:51 |
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| dm8tbr | lbt: haven't tested meetings, but should 'just work'™ | 12:52 |
| lbt | Superpelican: the only reason to pick a target is to run on specific HW | 12:52 |
| lbt | mostly you'd develop in x86 and then once most stuff was done, rebuild+verify on your device | 12:53 |
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| Superpelican | lbt: But I'm not a Python dev | 12:53 |
| Superpelican | Just an user who is wanting to use Python 3 on the upcoming Jolla Phone! ;) | 12:53 |
| lbt | Superpelican: *nod* | 12:53 |
| Superpelican | So wanting to compile it for all the Mer Project archectitures | 12:53 |
| lbt | it's an interesting choice for a first project.... quite challenging | 12:54 |
| lbt | but that's fine | 12:54 |
| Superpelican | Well it all started with the question if Python 3 is available on Mer | 12:55 |
| Superpelican | My first time building/compiling anything else then Hello World in C ;) | 12:55 |
| Superpelican | Also once I've builded an .rpm package how do I contribute it to the Mer Project? | 12:56 |
| Superpelican | And could you tell me how to change the SB2 target to ARMv7L? | 12:56 |
| lbt | I think you'd be best trying to build the existing python locally | 12:58 |
| lbt | using the Mer_Cort_i486 target | 12:59 |
| Superpelican | sb2-init keeps complaining about the architecture not being supported (already tried "armv7l", "Mere_Core_i486") | 13:01 |
| Superpelican | Also what do you mean by "building the existing python locally" | 13:01 |
| Superpelican | Is it more difficult to compile & build Python 3? | 13:01 |
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| Superpelican | lbt: I've extracted Python3 source and ran ./configure | 13:10 |
| Superpelican | lbt: But when I try to run "./Makefile" it says permission denied | 13:11 |
| Superpelican | While I'm root | 13:11 |
| rcg | Superpelican, you don't run "Makefile" | 13:13 |
| Bostik | makefile is not executable, it's a recipe for "make" | 13:13 |
| rcg | you run "make" | 13:13 |
| Superpelican | K, going to try it | 13:13 |
| rcg | but i wouldn't too disappointed if things don't work out straight away | 13:14 |
| Superpelican | Curious for which arch it's building it right now | 13:14 |
| rcg | especially considering that python is a fairly large project | 13:14 |
| Superpelican | Well at least my hardware isn't running hot | 13:15 |
| Superpelican | I've read about people asking on Ubuntuforums if they should put their laptop in the fridge ;) | 13:15 |
| Superpelican | While running make | 13:15 |
| Superpelican | Is there a way to check which arch it's building for? | 13:16 |
| rcg | well, a pretty corny pun that just comes to mind is the: "ice maker" | 13:17 |
| Superpelican | LOL | 13:17 |
| Superpelican | "python" executable in my dir ;) | 13:17 |
| Superpelican | And lots of other files showing up | 13:18 |
| Superpelican | It's done running make! | 13:18 |
| Superpelican | So I'm still in the "making-directory", so if I run "python <myscript>" right now it will use my own python executable? | 13:19 |
| Superpelican | Or will it still use the one in /usr/bin? | 13:19 |
| rcg | you should prefix it with "./" | 13:19 |
| rcg | ./python | 13:19 |
| Superpelican | K | 13:20 |
| rcg | that will run the one in the current dir | 13:20 |
| Superpelican | Going to try to run one of my first Python scripts! | 13:20 |
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| rcg | Superpelican, just out of curiosity, why do you need python 3.x instead of 2.7? | 13:21 |
| Superpelican | Well I'm currently learning Python 3 (first programming language) | 13:21 |
| Superpelican | They say Python 3 is best for n00bs | 13:21 |
| Superpelican | And I also personally prefer Python 3's syntax | 13:22 |
| rcg | i see | 13:22 |
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| Superpelican | Before I started learning Python I checked out the differences between 2 and 3 | 13:22 |
| rcg | right | 13:23 |
| Superpelican | And I thought: "At the time I'm finally to write real python software, all the libraries will be ported to 3" ;) | 13:23 |
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| Superpelican | *At the time I've finally teached myself enough python | 13:23 |
| Superpelican | Well I tried running my python script and it gives an error about ascii | 13:24 |
| lbt | Superpelican: that's all very sensible ... but... tbh the difference between them is minimal | 13:24 |
| Superpelican | My python script prints "²" and that's causing problems | 13:24 |
| lbt | at the point you're at now you'd be better off focussing on learning python 2 | 13:24 |
| rcg | hmm, well, from my experience, if you wait for python3 to become "stable" as in "used ubiquitously", you won't need to hurry with learning | 13:25 |
| Superpelican | But if no one uses python 3 it will never be used a lot ;) | 13:25 |
| rcg | that's my paraphrased way to say that i believe "full" migration to python3 will take very long.. if it will be done at all | 13:25 |
| Superpelican | Does anyone know how to fix the ascii error? | 13:26 |
| Superpelican | Maybe important to mention: I had this same error on my android phone with SL4A | 13:26 |
| Superpelican | But after installing a new SL4A release it was gone | 13:27 |
| Superpelican | Running my script with Python 2.7 results in the same error I believe | 13:27 |
| rcg | and if i may add... compiling, porting, packaging a bigger project like python3 is pretty challenging as a "beginners task" | 13:27 |
| Superpelican | May I ask: what do you mean by "porting"? | 13:27 |
| Superpelican | Is there any porting needed? | 13:28 |
| Superpelican | I mean I'm aware of the meaning of the word "porting", but don't understand why it needs to be done in this case | 13:28 |
| Superpelican | BTW I'm getting this error: "Traceback (most recent call last): | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | File "/home/jurre/Documents/Programming_Projects/Python_Programs/Pythagorean_Python/1.0_stable/Pythagorean_Python.py", line 24, in <module> | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | csquare_cpu = newquestion(score) | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | File "/home/jurre/Documents/Programming_Projects/Python_Programs/Pythagorean_Python/1.0_stable/Pythagorean_Python.py", line 20, in newquestion | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | print("Calculate triangle side C with the Pythagorean Theorem/A\xb2+B\xb2=C\xb2") | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\xb2' in position 56: ordinal not in range(128)" | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | It seems like it can't print the "²" character | 13:29 |
| rcg | i don't know.. but you will probably run into numerous pitfalls until you get a fully working, installable python3 ready | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | which has the ascii name "/xb2" | 13:29 |
| Superpelican | Why would I run in pitfalls? | 13:30 |
| Superpelican | And what pitfalls? | 13:30 |
| rcg | well, i think you are already encountering the first one with the ascii issue | 13:30 |
| Superpelican | Maybe I should check the SL4A google code page | 13:31 |
| Superpelican | And check what are the differences between the SL4A releases | 13:31 |
| Superpelican | Because I had the same error once on my android with SL4A | 13:31 |
| Superpelican | Maybe I can use their fix | 13:31 |
| rcg | but i don't want to discourage you.. still i think lbt has a very valid point | 13:32 |
| Superpelican | Well I think I'm going to try porting Python 3 for a while | 13:33 |
| Superpelican | I'll probably learn a lot | 13:33 |
| Superpelican | And if it seems to be too difficult after all I'll stop | 13:33 |
| Superpelican | I can at least try | 13:33 |
| Superpelican | I'll always learn new stuff | 13:33 |
| Superpelican | Searching the web, I don't seem to be the only one facing this issue | 13:33 |
| rcg | sure, learning new things is always good :) | 13:34 |
| Superpelican | Maybe I should just change MY SCRIPT to make it better compatible. Lots of solutions are about changing python code. Not fixing your python interpreter | 13:40 |
| Superpelican | Maybe using print(".......²....) wasn't such a good idea | 13:41 |
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| Superpelican | Yes! | 13:43 |
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| Superpelican | Replacing "²" with "^2" is less fancy, but it lets my script run well with my compiled python executable! | 13:44 |
| Superpelican | And now my script also runs with python 2.7 interpreter | 13:45 |
| Superpelican | rcg, lbt:So now "my" python interpreter is running | 13:50 |
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| Superpelican | lbt: So if I would now like to package my python 3 interpreter, how would I start? | 13:53 |
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| Superpelican | Not expecting it to work straight away | 13:53 |
| Superpelican | But at least would like to try | 13:53 |
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| lbt | Superpelican: start with the python 2 one | 13:55 |
| lbt | then replace the tarball | 13:56 |
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| Superpelican | lbt: I succesfully ran my python script with "²" replaced by "^2" | 14:25 |
| Superpelican | Maybe it's just my script | 14:25 |
| Superpelican | Strange that it does run with the python3 package supplied by ubuntu | 14:25 |
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| Superpelican | lbt:What's the reason you recommend me to first compile the python 2.7.3 interpreter? | 14:33 |
| Superpelican | And not Python 3 straight away? | 14:33 |
| Superpelican | Because of Python 2.7.3 is already in Mer? | 14:33 |
| Superpelican | So Mer is already made ready for Python 2.7.3? | 14:33 |
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| lbt | because you should understand and be able to rebuild the current version before trying to build a python3 package | 14:35 |
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| Superpelican | I've compiled both python 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 | 14:42 |
| Superpelican | How do I package them, lbt? | 14:42 |
| Superpelican | build an rpm | 14:42 |
| Superpelican | Should I run setup.py? | 14:43 |
| lbt | you start with the 2.7 packaging and modify it to work with 3.0 | 14:43 |
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| Superpelican | lbt:running setup.py of 2.7.3 failed with: "rpm: -ba: unknown option | 14:45 |
| Superpelican | error: command 'rpm' failed with exit status 1" | 14:45 |
| Superpelican | Where should I start trying to fix it? | 14:45 |
| Superpelican | Should I check setup.py? | 14:46 |
| Superpelican | setup.py: 2076 lines of code :o | 14:47 |
| andreas32b | Hi, the last months I've waited for the Spark/Vivaldi-Tablet, but I don't want to wait anymore... So I'm searching for a tablet with almost completely (^^) linux-support...could you recommend me a tablet? Could the ZENITHINK C92 be an option? | 14:47 |
| Superpelican | andreas32b: I read that the Vivaldi project dropped Zenithink as partner, because they didn't listen good enough to the community | 14:48 |
| Superpelican | So maybe it's better to not consider a zenithink tablet | 14:48 |
| Superpelican | I'm not an expert either | 14:48 |
| Superpelican | Just read it | 14:48 |
| Superpelican | somewhere | 14:49 |
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| andreas32b | I've seen this, but don't know where exactly the problem is coming from...do you know a better alternative? | 14:49 |
| lbt | Announce: Pre-Release of Mer Core : 0.20120920.0.1 was made last night and c.obs is well into rebuilding. | 14:50 |
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| Superpelican | andreas32b:Sorry, I don't know an alternative either | 14:52 |
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| Superpelican | Searching for "open source linux tablet" on google gave me this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ03A4xXPqw check the description | 14:53 |
| rcg | archos g9 allows to install mer | 14:54 |
| andreas32b | I'll have a look | 14:54 |
| rcg | plasma active, i.e. | 14:54 |
| rcg | andreas32b, ^ | 14:54 |
| rcg | in fact it somewhat supports dual boot | 14:54 |
| rcg | http://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/archos_gen9.html | 14:55 |
| rcg | for more information you might also join #active | 14:55 |
| andreas32b | oh the g9 looks fine, thanks! | 14:55 |
| rcg | yw | 14:55 |
| Superpelican | Maybe you should purchase an TI OMAP Pandaboard or anything similiar and build your own tablet on top of it ;) | 14:55 |
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| Superpelican | Or Beagleboard | 14:56 |
| andreas32b | I just thought about ^^ | 14:56 |
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| rcg | andreas32b, but be aware that it still is in an very early stage and probably far from usable on a daily basis | 14:56 |
| rcg | but for hacking etc. it is really nice :) | 14:56 |
| andreas32b | rcg, I know... It shouldnt by a tablet for daily use...just for hacking and playing around | 14:56 |
| rcg | personally, i just tried the latest testing image and this one finally has somewhat working suspend/resume functionality again :) | 14:57 |
| rcg | andreas32b, right, i see.. i think for this it will serve you very well | 14:57 |
| andreas32b | Oh, thats fine! I think the G9 is what I've searched for.. thank you! | 14:58 |
| rcg | yw :) | 14:58 |
| Superpelican | Didn't know it was possible to run Mer on an android tablet | 14:59 |
| Superpelican | Thought that all android tablets had closed drivers | 14:59 |
| rcg | btw. i just use the 8gb versions here.. i think that's really sufficient. also given that you can extend the storage via microsd card | 14:59 |
| Superpelican | Which made it impossible to run other OSses on them | 14:59 |
| rcg | andreas32b, i suggest to start with one of their stable images (i use the one without hw-acceleration).. and then once you are familiar with the installation process switch to testing or even devel | 15:00 |
| rcg | it's actually very much straight forward but taking smaller steps probably saves you from some headache ;) | 15:01 |
| Superpelican | rcg: could you help me to fix this error packaging python 2.7: "rpm: -ba: unknown option | 15:01 |
| Superpelican | error: command 'rpm' failed with exit status 1" | 15:01 |
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| Superpelican | Where should I start looking for solutions? | 15:01 |
| rcg | Superpelican, i would suggest you to try if you can find the packaging files for python2.7 and then modify these for your version | 15:02 |
| rcg | alternatively, iirc the mer wiki has some information about packaging | 15:02 |
| rcg | you should also make yourself familiar with the cobs and osc | 15:02 |
| andreas32b | hw-accel would be very nice! | 15:03 |
| rcg | https://build.pub.meego.com/ <- that's the cobs | 15:03 |
| rcg | andreas32b, there are images with hw-accel.. however i dunno if suspend works - personally, i strongly prefer suspend over hw-accel | 15:03 |
| andreas32b | I'll starting with the stable images and then try my own configurations... | 15:04 |
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| Superpelican | rcg: What do you mean with "packaging files" | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | rcg:I have found python.spec | 15:05 |
| rcg | Superpelican, that's a start, e.g. | 15:06 |
| rcg | then you should also get specify and search for information on how to package for mer | 15:06 |
| Superpelican | what does python.yaml contain? | 15:07 |
| rcg | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 15:07 |
| lbt | Superpelican: hint or tip ... only ask a question after you've googled it and not found an answer :) | 15:07 |
| Superpelican | lbt:K | 15:07 |
| Superpelican | Does Mer development still happen in the meego.com repo's? | 15:09 |
| lbt | we still make use of them | 15:11 |
| lbt | however we have our own OBS used for QA/delivery | 15:11 |
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| Stskeeps | yawn | 16:45 |
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| Sage_ | \o/ prerelease done \o/ :) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 18:40 |
| Sage_ | lbt: already in cobs? | 18:40 |
| lbt | yes | 18:40 |
| lbt | last night | 18:41 |
| Sage_ | lbt: two worker machines in cobs dead? | 18:41 |
| Sage_ | pubworker05/07 | 18:41 |
| lbt | ta | 18:41 |
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| rem | can I have bluetooth in merSDK running on my ubuntu ? | 19:53 |
| lbt | the SDK is not really an emulator or full VM | 19:55 |
| rem | true: but is always good to ask / dream :-) | 20:01 |
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| rem | I installed connman in merSDK and only error @ postscripting was: warning: %post(connman-0.78.2-1.2.i486) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 | 20:05 |
| rem | similarly got: warning: %post(ofono-0.52-1.11.i486) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 | 20:06 |
| rem | probably meaning i cannot call in merSDK :-) ? | 20:07 |
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| Bostik | prerelease ready? woo \o/ | 20:09 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, ping | 20:13 |
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| rcg | that tearing bug in nemo was due to some wrong resolution in some config file iirc | 20:13 |
| rcg | do you happen to recall which file that was | 20:14 |
| w00t | meegotouch's device configuration | 20:14 |
| rcg | or even better know how the config file that will be used is determined? | 20:14 |
| rcg | ah yes, it is in /usr/share/meegotouch/targets/ | 20:15 |
| rcg | thx w00t | 20:15 |
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| rcg | w00t, do you happen to know if these settings are documented somewhere? | 20:34 |
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| Sage_ | Corrupted storable file (binary v2.7) at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/fd_retrieve.al) line 398, at ./bs_worker line 742 | 20:44 |
| Sage_ | lbt: due to worker problems, I guess? | 20:44 |
| lbt | ? | 20:44 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=lipstick-colorful-home&project=CE%3AUX%3AMTF&repository=Mer_Core-next_CE_MW_MTF_i586 | 20:45 |
| Sage_ | there are some of those in nemo repos atm. | 20:45 |
| Sage_ | worker problems == 2 dead worker hosts | 20:45 |
| lbt | I think we're melting them | 20:45 |
| lbt | I rebooted the 2 bad ones earlier | 20:46 |
| Sage_ | I'll just rebuild those | 20:46 |
| lbt | usually the jobs are not affected by worker issues | 20:46 |
| lbt | mmm no timestamp | 20:46 |
| lbt | 3/5 are idle now but no server issues afaict | 20:46 |
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| Sage_ | cobs acts slow again, maybe publishing issue again? | 20:48 |
| Sage_ | publishing issue == slow publishing at times | 20:55 |
| * Sage_ zzzZZZZzZZZZzzZZZzZzZZzZzzz.. | 20:55 | |
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| lbt | phaeron: can you look at https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6773 sometime | 21:20 |
| phaeron | lbt: looks ok | 21:25 |
| lbt | what I think I'll do is make a rolling release of Mer:Tools | 21:26 |
| phaeron | what does that mean | 21:26 |
| lbt | every time an SR is accepted to Mer:Tools I'll redo the release | 21:27 |
| phaeron | so why not just use the project's repos | 21:28 |
| lbt | it uses the release process steps | 21:28 |
| phaeron | ok | 21:29 |
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