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| dcthang | morning :-) | 02:35 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:51 |
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| timoph | hmmh | 04:53 |
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| timoph | platform sdk's ssh seems to be compiled without kerberos or something | 04:53 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have kerberos in mer, afaik | 04:53 |
| timoph | getting Unsupported option "GSSAPIAuthentication" when trying to ssh from the sdk | 04:54 |
| timoph | into nemo that is | 04:54 |
| Stskeeps | right, so we need to fix the conf | 04:54 |
| timoph | yep. just need to comment line 49 in /etc/ssh/ssh_config | 04:58 |
| timoph | those are only warnings so nothing critical | 04:59 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 04:59 |
| iekku | morning | 05:06 |
| Kypeli | good morning iekku ! | 05:06 |
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| * timoph crosses fingers and starts sb2 target creation from device script | 05:19 | |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Have you seen news similar to http://www.gizmochina.com/2012/09/14/google-claims-that-acer-are-not-compatible-with-aliyun-os/ ? | 05:58 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: yes | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it was all over western technical news too | 05:59 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: so what do you think about this, especially in Mer's point of view? | 06:01 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: it may well play into non-Android's favour - it's quite obvious that google has too much power if they can stop non-android handsets to come to market | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | this isn't first time it has happened, though | 06:02 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: yes. so many companies that want to modify android will slow down their steps, and look for other choices... | 06:09 |
| sonach | something similar to what we are doing :P | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i have succesfully run qmlscene on top of android gpu drivers now by the way | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | 1024x768 @ 60fps at qualcomm hardware | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | qmlscene is qmlviewer for qt5 qtquick2 | 06:11 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: cool. now my platform at hand is bcm7231(mips) with ics4.0.4. and hi3716C(arm) has not arrived. so I still can not do the test? | 06:15 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: probably need some patches for MIPS but i'm sure we can find them | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: this may be interesting for you, by the way: https://gitorious.org/cambridge , http://code.google.com/p/klaatu/ | 06:16 |
| sonach | ok, so you mean that I can find the patches myself? | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: nah, i'll find them for you :) | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | people on working to make it easy to have android without dalvik in it | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | or more customized android | 06:17 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: so, if i want to do the test, i can start it now? | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: over the next week or so i will be making it easier to use libhybris and try it, so it's better after that | 06:19 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, no hurry, | 06:20 |
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| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 08:04 |
| slaine | Morning folks, Stskeeps | 08:04 |
| Skry | morning | 08:05 |
| Skry | hey, if there is someone with some skills in C and kernel drivers, I could use some help with something which should be dead simple to someone who knows what he is doing.. :D | 08:06 |
| Bostik | that sounds really bad | 08:07 |
| Bostik | "kernel drivers... simple.." | 08:07 |
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| Stskeeps | Skry: probably easier to just ask | 08:07 |
| sroedal_ | everything is simple if you have enough knowledge | 08:07 |
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| sroedal_ | Stskeeps: btw, I have an Android device now | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal_: cool :) | 08:10 |
| sroedal_ | Stskeeps: do I need to build my own kernel to play with the libhybris stuff? :) | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal_: if possible, locate a android source tree for it too | 08:10 |
| sroedal_ | asus have provided sources | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | as you'll need to patch bionic | 08:10 |
| Skry | I need to call function from driver x when driver y has certain state and this should happen in board code | 08:11 |
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| Skry | have practically no experience in this stuff but no-one else wants to do this | 08:12 |
| timoph | \o/ | 08:12 |
| simon_ | hello:) | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo simon_ :) | 08:13 |
| timoph | http://pastie.org/4770695 | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | was good seeing you in person last | 08:13 |
| simon_ | lo Stskeeps :) | 08:13 |
| * timoph goes out for a victory smoke | 08:13 | |
| simon_ | mer wiki logins not working? | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | simon_: should be | 08:13 |
| simon_ | same as bugzilla right? | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:13 |
| simon_ | hmm | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | what error do you get? | 08:13 |
| simon_ | now too many login attempts, but previously login incorrect | 08:13 |
| simon_ | bugzilla working fine. | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | prod lbt later today | 08:14 |
| simon_ | ok, will do, thanks | 08:15 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:20 |
| lbt | simon_: wiki uses your username, not email | 08:20 |
| lbt | hey Stskeeps | 08:20 |
| simon_ | lbt: supid me | 08:21 |
| simon_ | lbt: shame on me, it is workin... | 08:23 |
| lbt | np - I guess we could be clearer about this somehow | 08:23 |
| simon_ | lbt: maybe a hint on login page in the line where it says it's a bugzilla account | 08:26 |
| simon_ | sth like (username, not e-mail) | 08:26 |
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| lbt | yup | 08:27 |
| simon_ | lbt: btw, in bugzilla preferences i do not see my username anywhere, which is simonbolek, only e-mail | 08:28 |
| lbt | *nod* ... I had to futz BZ to make it authoritative for LDAP and I noticed that issue myself... it's on the list somewhere :) | 08:29 |
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| kulve | there's no ARMv6 hardfp releases of Mer Core? | 08:39 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: there is experimental stuff but nothing concrete | 08:40 |
| kulve | it seems that the proprietary binaries for RPi comes also in hardfp and I was about to use those.. | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | i've considered to switch armv6l to armv6hl over time | 08:41 |
| kulve | how could I try that experimental stuff then? :) | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | mm, can i say 'not yet'? :) | 08:42 |
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| kulve | no, I don't think that's a possibility :) | 08:42 |
| kulve | I guess I can got with softfp, but if there's any progress related to hardfp, let me know. I can test it then | 08:43 |
| kulve | s,got,go, | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | will d | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | o | 08:43 |
| kulve | can I detect on the spec file which one is used? I could include both the the tarball and just copy the ones we are "building" for? | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | %ifarch armv6l | 08:44 |
| kulve | ok, thanks | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | and %ifarch armv6hl | 08:44 |
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| situ | Hi all | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | morn situ | 08:58 |
| situ | :) | 08:59 |
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| _Thomas | Stskeeps: I talked to bizdev today, so if you send stuff my way, I'll pass it on to the correct people :) | 09:07 |
| _Thomas | and, morning :) | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: :nod: | 09:07 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: oh, the xorg fixes were not in yet in the .0.0.3 snapshot | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: right | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: what is missign in dashboard atm? | 09:27 |
| Sage_ | dashboard? | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | gerrit | 09:28 |
| Sage_ | nothing critical from me I think, I'm good for the release already. Already thinking about the one after this next. | 09:29 |
| Sage_ | of course if you want there are some SR's from me you can accept ;) | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:29 |
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| Stskeeps | SRs? | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | which ones.. | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:30 |
| Sage_ | err.. reviews | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:30 |
| Sage_ | those with +1 in review pretty much :P | 09:30 |
| lbt | fyi ... just restarted ci workers as they were down at ~50% due to poor umount of tmpfs (I think) | 09:31 |
| Sage_ | and some more actually that would need kicking. | 09:31 |
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| cat_x301 | morning; does anybody know how to shut up systemd-jounal so it does not span on serial console like this http://pastie.org/4771119 ? | 10:13 |
| cat_x301 | s/span/spam | 10:14 |
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| cat_x301 | never mind, quick hack in journald.conf seems helped: | 10:42 |
| cat_x301 | ForwardToConsole=yes | 10:42 |
| cat_x301 | TTYPath=/dev/null | 10:42 |
| cat_x301 | though i do not understand why default ForwardToConsole=no does not have any effect. | 10:42 |
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| smita_ | hi.. i get 1 out of 5 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file.. but actually no such file is getting generated on that path.. does anyone know what can be the problem | 10:57 |
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| Stskeeps | smita_: look at BUILD/ directory? | 11:03 |
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| smita_ | Stskeeps, there is no build dir | 11:04 |
| smita_ | Stskeeps, i get this problem with "osc build" | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | osc chroot | 11:04 |
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| kulve | I'm getting this: "ERROR: No build ID note found in [...]" and I've tried setting _missing_build_ids_terminate_build with %define and with %global but it doesn't seem to have any effect.. Any hints? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: are you packaging binaries? | 11:22 |
| kulve | yes | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | can you show me build log? | 11:22 |
| kulve | yes, please see the priv msg | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | k | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: %global debug_package %{nil} | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | as well | 11:23 |
| slaine | So, some advice if you will | 11:23 |
| slaine | I've got some upstart scripts that I want to re-write for systemd | 11:24 |
| slaine | Is there a porting guide anywhere ? | 11:24 |
| slaine | I know there's different types of systemd scripts, .service, .target etc. | 11:24 |
| slaine | but I don't know how that affects my choice | 11:24 |
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| slaine | The particular script I'm looking at porting now gets run once early in the boot process to figure out which device type it's running on and create some flag files for the software stack to pick up on later on | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: take a look at boardname service? | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | in mer | 11:26 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: sounds similar, I will, thanks | 11:26 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: it worked, thanks | 11:30 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: Hmmmm | 11:41 |
| slaine | So, rather than include the script body in something like my hwsetup.service, I should just have hwsetup.service call a script /sbin/hwsetup.sh | 11:41 |
| slaine | seems almost too easy | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: congratulations on maintainership :) | 11:50 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: any estimates when next snapshot/prerelease is out? | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i'm waiting for something to build atm and then that's the content | 12:26 |
| Sage_ | uh... connman has now commanctl cmd... that reminds me something ;) | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: next up, merging into systemd | 12:26 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you said it not me ;) | 12:26 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I would have liked to get connman update to this release but that can wait to next one as well I guess. it seems quite stable atm | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | :noD: | 12:27 |
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| smita_ | Stskeeps, after dealing with the.rej and making changes in my code...still when i do build i get the same problem "1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file".. do i need to delete the .rej file ? | 12:57 |
| CissWit | a/win ruby | 12:57 |
| CissWit | sorry :) | 12:57 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: finally, merged qt5-beta1 to mer.. i want to package some additional things like qtpim, qtconnectivty, qtfeedback, pim, qtqa and i'll work on a merge request for modular-qt-specs | 14:20 |
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| Stskeeps | qtwayland comes in next line | 14:21 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: whatever you do, I won't pull one directly - I'll probably cherry-pick things one-by-one and make sure of the intermediate steps | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | so you even wouldn't mind a tarball with git changes? | 14:22 |
| Bostik | the diff is just too big to handle in one go | 14:22 |
| Bostik | certainly would not _mind_ | 14:22 |
| Bostik | would welcome it, evevn :) | 14:22 |
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| Stskeeps | i'll make a postit and it to you on monday | 14:22 |
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| Stskeeps | monday-tuesday-wednesday my wife's out of town, so i have 3 hacking days to iterate libhybris/wayland compostitor/virtual machine with qml compositor, etc | 14:23 |
| condo4 | Hello all | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | hello condo4 :) | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | condo4: so what brings you here? | 14:23 |
| condo4 | I'm presenting me, I'm a hard/software engineer on linux embedded platform. | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | condo4: cool :) | 14:24 |
| condo4 | I'm very intresting about Jolla, and so, mer project | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | well, you're in the right place then | 14:24 |
| condo4 | I have a question about the SDK; | 14:24 |
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| Stskeeps | cat_n9: silly question, do you have a android adaptation for that mk802 too? | 14:25 |
| condo4 | Why the mer project don't use the Yocto project to built environment ?What is the pro/cons about this sdk... | 14:26 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: it comes with ICS | 14:26 |
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| Stskeeps | condo4: yocto's doing a good job at what they're targetting - and mer has it's own ways - it allows to scale quite quick from prototype to full team with build systems, qa, etc | 14:27 |
| RaYmAn | there are native x11 drivers though - they almost work properly :P just a matter of not-too-long-time and they should wokr fully (opengl es on fbdev does work though.) | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | condo4: i could try and convince you all i want, but read the mer wiki pages, mer package, and try out what we have, see if you like it | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | mer package = merproject.org page, i mean | 14:27 |
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| Stskeeps | condo4: i can however show you the amazing things people have built with Mer :) | 14:28 |
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| Stskeeps | condo4: for Jolla, and other companies, they're happy with what Mer delivers and engineers involved have naturally tried out other approaches | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | Mer's aim is simple - enabling the ability to do 60fps QML/HTML5 products to even the smallest business, and scale operations as you go up from one idea to 100 employees | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | there'll be cases where Yocto is better, there'll be cases where emdebian is better, or buildroot | 14:31 |
| condo4 | Yes, I need to try this project... In my job, we work on PowerPC based architecture, and, we recently start to work with Yocto... Since I've the N9 and I'm interesting to Jolla, I need to try the mer project... | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | :nod; | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | condo4: feel free to ask all the questions you want :) | 14:33 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: how's the pi coming along then? | 14:33 |
| condo4 | OK, I need to try... just a question, Mer Project is availlable for PPC target ? | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | condo4: hehe, sadly not, but it is available for armv6, armv7, mips32, generic x86 and Atom processes | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | processors, that is | 14:35 |
| condo4 | ok, I can try for my Wetab tablet... thanks... | 14:35 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: well, we have it booting so far. I managed to get the gfx packaged following the sage's pandaboard logic but that's still untested | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | condo4: Seadot is a mer based distribution for wetab at least | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: alright | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: i'm a little uncertain of eglfs qt plugin working properly on r-pi anymore | 14:37 |
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| Stskeeps | for qt5 | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | but let's see | 14:37 |
| kulve | we tried the alien's packages earlier but they segfaulted with "qmlviewer -opengl" | 14:38 |
| kulve | but they where quite old already | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | well | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | qmlviewer -opengl qt4.8 will make anybody cry on r-pi | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | qt5 is really only solution, unless you use my nasty nasty hack | 14:39 |
| condo4 | where can I find download/ information about seadot | 14:40 |
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| Stskeeps | condo4: i think it's on the wetab forums | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | may be in german :P | 14:40 |
| condo4 | ....hum, this is the problem with wetab... majority of sites are in german... | 14:42 |
| condo4 | I found the git repo for seadot : http://gitorious.org/seadot | 14:43 |
| condo4 | thanks for all informations, good bye | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | see you around | 14:50 |
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| zuh | Stskeeps: I was trying to get a target set up for compilation for RPi but I'm hitting something I don't understand: http://pastie.org/4772621 | 15:03 |
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| * Stskeeps looks | 15:04 | |
| Stskeeps | uhh | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | what image did you base off? | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | and can i see that targets etc/rpm/platform ? | 15:04 |
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| zuh | A custom .ks seen here: https://github.com/snowcap-electronics/kickstarts/blob/master/rpi/mer-rpi.ks | 15:05 |
| zuh | And no, since it doesn't exist... So looks like an invalid user error? | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | echo 'armv6l-meego-linux' into etc/rpm/platform on there | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | does behaviour change? | 15:06 |
| zuh | indeed | 15:06 |
| zuh | Hm, so have I missed something in the creation of the target or what should originally create that? | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | the .ks %post section usually does that | 15:07 |
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| Stskeeps | didn't know it was needed for armv6l target though | 15:07 |
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| zuh | I can look an example of what to add from mer release .ks or ..? | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120816.1.NEMO.2012-08-31.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20120816.1.NEMO.2012-08-31.1.ks | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | first two echo'es of %Post | 15:09 |
| zuh | ok, so nothing fancy needed. Thanks! | 15:11 |
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| kulve | why the long list of Provides: lines: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=gfx-libs-raspPi.spec&package=gfx-libs-raspPi&project=home%3Aalien%3Araspi&rev=d16aadb1f0f6d9ecf88e6e591725e322 | 15:34 |
| kulve | I skipped those in my package and now I'm getting: | 15:34 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 15:34 | |
| kulve | Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : gfx-rpi-1-10.1.armv6l requires libvcos.so | 15:34 |
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| Stskeeps | i think somebody forgot to make their libraries +x | 15:34 |
| kulve | that might very well be.. | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | rpm is a bit picky about that and i'm not sure why | 15:35 |
| kulve | on my debian stable most seems to be without +x | 15:37 |
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| Stskeeps | i think it's also because of the awkward /opt/vc stuff | 15:38 |
| kulve | do you know if that directory is mandatory? I guessed no and put them to /usr/ .. | 15:38 |
| kulve | but haven't tested anything yet | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | i hope not, at least | 15:39 |
| kulve | I tried quickly reading some install-script there and it seemed to allow a prefix. | 15:39 |
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| Stskeeps | the libGLESv2.so.2 one might be genuine though | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | somebody had this funny idea there should be no proper soname on libGLESv2 and libEGL in the past | 15:43 |
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| Stskeeps | and i'm fairly sure it was due to the PowerVR SGX build scripts totally crapping out when you tried | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:43 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/877 | 15:45 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 15:45 | |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: thank you, merging | 15:45 |
| kulve | hmm.. why did mic give me a long list of warnings about packages being damaged? | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: cache doesn't distinguish between architectures | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | it's fine, ignore it | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:49 |
| kulve | ok :) | 15:49 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, you can have two noarch packages with different sha | 15:50 |
| kulve | yeah, all those seem to be noarch packages | 15:50 |
| kulve | that +x seemed to fix that problem, thanks | 15:50 |
| kulve | I even managed to create those package groups, "@Raspberry Pi GFX" etc | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | ;nod: | 15:52 |
| kulve | nice package count the mic is giving me: [301/217] | 15:53 |
| kulve | :) | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 15:53 |
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| crevetor | woot woot ! https://twitter.com/crevetor/status/249179452066643969/photo/1/large | 16:21 |
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| Stskeeps | crevetor: \o/ | 16:29 |
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| crevetor | yay ! | 16:32 |
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| Stskeeps | crevetor: congratulations :) | 16:34 |
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| scorp1us | Hi all, do you have a mali-400 compatible distribution? | 16:50 |
| scorp1us | And instructions on how to isntall mer on an android tablet (wiping out android) | 16:50 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: it should work out of box giving that you know where to take u-boot and kernel. | 16:51 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: but do not expect any graphics yet :) | 16:52 |
| scorp1us | no graphics: I kinda want to see something | 16:53 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: at least with mer. actually i am trying to achive something similar with mk802, a10 based. | 16:53 |
| scorp1us | it's essential to active plasma | 16:53 |
| scorp1us | what is the deal with graphics? | 16:55 |
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| cat1 | scorp1us: well, for some it works with different distros, but i haven't got it working with mer yet. | 16:56 |
| scorp1us | I'm not sure I understand. I thought it was a matter of having X and the right X driver? | 16:56 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: you need kernel support for fb | 16:57 |
| scorp1us | oh, where there are drivers avaiblible. | 16:58 |
| scorp1us | but I don't know if mer includes those. I guess that's waht I am asking | 16:58 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: what is your hardware btw, except it has mali400? | 16:58 |
| scorp1us | rockwell 29, arm 7l | 16:59 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: soc? | 16:59 |
| * cat1 is lazy to google ;) | 16:59 | |
| scorp1us | http://www.lava-tech.com/qpad_c1010111.html | 17:00 |
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| scorp1us | It has ICS on it so it can't be that bad | 17:01 |
| scorp1us | is that descriptive enough? | 17:02 |
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| cat1 | scorp1us: it is not bad, but i cannot see what is inside. will google a little bit.. | 17:03 |
| scorp1us | what are you looking for specifically? | 17:03 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: btw, have you looked at linaro's kernels? | 17:03 |
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| scorp1us | no i have not | 17:03 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: looking what chipset is behind the scene.. | 17:03 |
| scorp1us | rk29 | 17:04 |
| cat1 | scorp1us: does not tell me too much -- still check it on web :) | 17:04 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, managed to see the last two talks at XDC today! | 17:07 |
| mikhas | travelling is fun, right? | 17:07 |
| mikhas | at least I avoided the shame of not picking up my badge | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 17:08 |
| mikhas | they might have to rename it to WDC next year though | 17:08 |
| mikhas | or at least everyone I spoke to only talked about that | 17:08 |
| mikhas | (but that's because I am biased, of course) | 17:08 |
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| cat1 | scorp1us: could not find anything related, sorry. Anyways, mali400 support is not yet in mer. Actually, each device/chipset should have some adaptation in place before one is able to run mer/nemo and as far as i can see there is none for your tablet. | 17:21 |
| scorp1us | :-( | 17:22 |
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| scorp1us | it shoudl eb easy, no? http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-kernel-device-drivers.php | 17:27 |
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| cat1 | scorp1us: to some extent yes. at least i was able to compile modules but drm is not really implemented for mali400. they only provide some sort of skeleton. Though fb works with GLES for some, give it a try too! | 17:31 |
| * cat1 feels being useless with this advice.. | 17:34 | |
| Stskeeps | hardware adaptation is hard, but hopefully it'll be easier in future | 17:36 |
| RaYmAn | I guess with fbdev/gles2, it should be possible to get wayland running | 17:38 |
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| Stskeeps | well, on shm yes | 17:39 |
| RaYmAn | shm? | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | as in, you can't share gpu buffers with fbdev/gles2 alone | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | just apps that render into shared memory | 17:40 |
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| RaYmAn | ah, right | 17:40 |
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| kulve | eglinfo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1: undefined symbol: glPointSizePointerOES | 17:44 |
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| Stskeeps | progress | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | is libGLESv2.so there too? | 17:45 |
| kulve | yes | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | hmm :P | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | LD_DEBUG or ldd might be your friend | 17:45 |
| kulve | why eglinfo doesn't link to it? | 17:45 |
| kulve | according to ldd it doesnt | 17:45 |
| kulve | or should the libegl link to it..? | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | well, does eglinfo use anything from gl* ? | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | if it does, yes, it should link to it | 17:46 |
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| kulve | that eglinfo is from mer and I know you know every code line in there.. :) | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | i don't, actually :P | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | but if it has gl* in nm -D eglinfo | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | and it doesn't link to libEGL | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | er | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | gles | 17:48 |
| kulve | LD_PRELOAD did the trick | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | it's a problem | 17:48 |
| kulve | nm: command not found | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | ah, :P | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | binutils | 17:48 |
| kulve | zypper seems to be a hard word to write in friday evening.. | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | i'm having to deal with a missing 'uic_location' in QtCore's pkgconfig file | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | i decided a rum and coke was a good addition to that mix | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:50 |
| kulve | having ethernet on a board like this is really a plus. And I happened to have a self-soldered usb-serial dongle on the table, so serial console wasn't a problem either | 17:50 |
| kulve | I guess I could take captain morgan with a coke as well :) | 17:51 |
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| kulve | # nm -D /usr/bin/eglinfo | grep -i gl | grep -c -v egl | 17:52 |
| kulve | 0 | 17:52 |
| kulve | so looks the eglinfo works and broadcom doesn't (surprise with proprietary components..) | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | well, eglinfo is probably built against X11 | 17:53 |
| kulve | at least it doesn't seem to care about $DISPLAY | 17:54 |
| kulve | EGL vendor string: Broadcom | 17:54 |
| kulve | EGL client APIs: OpenGL_ES OpenVG | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so it can do it without | 17:54 |
| kulve | EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_image_pixmap EGL_KHR_vg_parent_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_cubemap_image EGL_KHR_lock_surface | 17:54 |
| kulve | glestest want's the DISPLAY but still says "Got no EGL display." | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, figured as much | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | there's no x11 in the r-pi gles drivers so | 17:56 |
| kulve | ok | 17:56 |
| kulve | do you happen to know, what is vcfiled (VC file daemon) provided by bcm? | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | err. no idea | 17:57 |
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| kulve | is there strace in some mer package? | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | in mer:tools probably | 17:59 |
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| kulve | hmm.. yes, it was there but my RPi's ethernet seems to be a bit flaky.. | 18:04 |
| vgrade | evening all | 18:07 |
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| vgrade | hi cristi | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | evening vgrade | 18:09 |
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| vgrade | evening Stskeeps | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | how is it going? | 18:09 |
| vgrade | bit of a killer week | 18:09 |
| vgrade | just sat down with a beer | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:10 |
| vgrade | see the new tizen release? has some web apps | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but it's a kinda lousy wrapper, it's just efl webkit | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | no web runtime as such | 18:11 |
| vgrade | yea I saw they said it was not using wrt | 18:12 |
| vgrade | might run it up anyway on the exo as its good background for the day job | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:12 |
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| cristi | hi vgrade | 18:14 |
| vgrade | hey | 18:14 |
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| vgrade | cristi, kulve was asking about raspPi gfx package earlier | 18:17 |
| cristi | I will check the logs | 18:17 |
| kulve | vgrade: well, I already recreated it.. | 18:17 |
| cristi | kulve: I worked on an upgrade but didn't commit it to OBS just yet | 18:18 |
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| cristi | it was based on a snapshot as of Sunday or so | 18:18 |
| kulve | I took the latest versions of bootloader, kernel, gfx, etc. from the github | 18:19 |
| cristi | great then | 18:19 |
| kulve | and I put only the minimum tarballs to OBS | 18:19 |
| kulve | but so far it boots and eglinfo works but nothing else has been tested.. | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps you should set up a common project for this stuff? | 18:19 |
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| cristi | Stskeeps: good idea | 18:20 |
| kulve | what kind of common project? | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | like, OBS project | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | kind of like how we have CE:Adaptation:N900 | 18:20 |
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| cristi | Stskeeps: how can we do that? | 18:21 |
| kulve | multiple persons have write access to that, I assume? | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 18:21 |
| kulve | cristi: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Akulve%3Arpi-ha | 18:22 |
| cristi | thanks kulve | 18:22 |
| kulve | there's my project. zuh has also been actively testing | 18:22 |
| cristi | kulve: I had https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home:alien:raspi | 18:22 |
| vgrade | and the original, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Avgrade%3AraspPi :) | 18:23 |
| kulve | I know, I first branched everything from there and then created my stuff with newer smaller tarballs and basicly copied your .spec -files (except gfx I took from sage's pandaboard) | 18:23 |
| cristi | I will commit my current work now | 18:23 |
| vgrade | good idea about a shared project | 18:23 |
| kulve | vgrade: yeah, these seem to be a bit one shot things. People do them and not upgrade them anymore :) | 18:24 |
| cristi | I was going to update the qt5 stuff to the beta | 18:24 |
| kulve | like my gumstix. I had it more or less working but probably now I won't touch it anymore as I'm working with RPi.. | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | give me some user names on people who are working together on this stuff..? | 18:24 |
| cristi | will try to contribute that to the common repo | 18:24 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: kulve, zuh | 18:24 |
| cristi | alien | 18:24 |
| vgrade | vgrade | 18:25 |
| cristi | I guess sivu too | 18:25 |
| cristi | I forked his stuff, originally forked from vgrade | 18:25 |
| kulve | so my fork is 4th :) | 18:25 |
| kulve | but I think I cleaned up couple of things from cristi's work and upgraded everything to today's versions from git | 18:26 |
| kulve | and the gfx includes separate packages for egl, gles1, gles2 and omxil. And separate packages for -devel. And pkgconfig files. Not sure if everything really makes sense but it was at least quite clean approach | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3ARaspberryPi | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | each of you are maintainers now | 18:27 |
| vgrade | kulve, I'm sure there were things to fix in my packaging as that adaptation was my first | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | copypac an initial adaptation in | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | and then use submitreq and OBS requests from there | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | and review eachothers' packaging | 18:27 |
| cristi | thanks | 18:28 |
| cristi | kulve: please upload your stuff there | 18:28 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, thanks for the playground | 18:29 |
| kulve | cristi: hopefully it's ok, if I do it during the weekend? It's too late to do it today anymore.. | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, do a good job, i'll need that adaptation in a few months ;) | 18:29 |
| cristi | no hurry | 18:29 |
| kulve | if somebody still has energy today, go ahead and copy my stuff there | 18:31 |
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| Stskeeps | evening Venemo | 18:32 |
| kulve | I just started testing a bit and I don't have a clue how the videocore stuff should work. E.g. "vcdbg" give me errors (OTOH I don't even know what that is..) | 18:32 |
| Venemo | hey Stskeeps :) | 18:32 |
| Venemo | what's up? :) | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: having fun with qt5 | 18:32 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, quite fun, isn't it? | 18:32 |
| kulve | cristi: also my kernel report 122M of total memory according to "free -m" | 18:33 |
| kulve | I guess it should more unless VC or something takes half of it.. | 18:33 |
| vgrade | kulve, it used to need the app to call a function before you could do gles stuff | 18:33 |
| kulve | vgrade: is that documented somewhere? I haven't followed RPi too much as I didn't have my board until this week.. | 18:34 |
| vgrade | kulve, there is a config file on the dos part which allows you to tune userspace vs gpu mem | 18:34 |
| vgrade | kulve, I'm sure there is stuff documented. I've not revisited since I did the initial adaptation | 18:35 |
| cristi | kulve: the gl stuff needs to be adapted to work on the pi | 18:35 |
| zuh | http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt | 18:35 |
| zuh | kulve: ^ | 18:35 |
| vgrade | zuh, hi | 18:35 |
| zuh | o/ | 18:35 |
| cristi | kulve: there were some examples, I don't remember where | 18:36 |
| kulve | Ok. I'll probably have some time during the weekend to dig into this. My first RPi boot ever was 1.5 hours ago :) | 18:36 |
| kulve | zuh: lot of options | 18:38 |
| vgrade | kulve, spooky coincidence my first boot of Mer on Pi was a year ago tomorrow, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fouPJRLygNQ&list=UUXEgJwVb8AssgtGPOplNcgg&index=16&feature=plcp | 18:38 |
| kulve | :) | 18:39 |
| vgrade | how time flies | 18:39 |
| kulve | btw, my packages are here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Akulve%3Arpi-ha | 18:39 |
| kulve | feel free to comment if there's something that should be changed when I push them to CE | 18:39 |
| kulve | e.g. we named them -rpi instead of cristi's -raspPi | 18:40 |
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| vgrade | kulve, sure | 18:41 |
| kulve | currently all those (i.e. gfx-rpi) packages should support both hardfp and softfp builds. So as soon as Stskeeps sets up Mer's ARMv6 hardfloat builds, we can enable both :) | 18:41 |
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| vgrade | kulve, I wonder how much difference it makes. | 18:43 |
| cristi | well, once we have it we can benchmark :) | 18:43 |
| kulve | so do I. Some claims that there is clear difference but who knows.. | 18:43 |
| vgrade | kulve, the Linaro testing only showed improvements in things like raytracing | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | like 5k kflops or something additional | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | on ARM it matters to the ui | 18:44 |
| cristi | I think the operclocking improvement from this week would be much more helpful | 18:44 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: are there any (significant) downsides? | 18:44 |
| cristi | overclocking* | 18:44 |
| vgrade | cristi, overclocking the Pi? | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: well, no thumb1 | 18:44 |
| cristi | vgrade: sure | 18:44 |
| vgrade | cristi, missed that news | 18:44 |
| kulve | vgrade: it can be run now at 1GHz without voiding the warranty | 18:45 |
| kulve | (iirc) | 18:45 |
| cristi | http://www.golem.de/news/raspberry-pi-uebertakten-ohne-garantieverlust-1209-94681.html | 18:45 |
| cristi | whoops, it's in german | 18:45 |
| vgrade | google tranlate hels | 18:45 |
| kulve | vgrade: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008 | 18:45 |
| kulve | I guess that's the original post | 18:46 |
| vgrade | nice, have you guys seen http://cubieboard.org/ | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | isn't it the allwinner stuff? | 18:48 |
| zuh | Yeah, A10 | 18:48 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, yes. Distributed by a guy who works at aw | 18:49 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, #arm-netbook and #cubieboard | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:50 |
| vgrade | first batch went for $50 | 18:51 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, still mali400 issues though | 18:51 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, nice to see _Thomas getting close to shipping Cotton Candy | 18:52 |
| cristi | there was one such board but with quadcore arm, at about 100$ | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it really looks like a nice device | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | i still need to put my two r-pi's into service | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:52 |
| CosmoHill | me too | 18:53 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, too many nice devices | 18:53 |
| vgrade | hi CosmoHill | 18:53 |
| CosmoHill | hey dude | 18:53 |
| CosmoHill | how's it going? | 18:53 |
| zuh | And people sell complete tablets for $40... | 18:53 |
| vgrade | ok, spending too much time at day job and not enough here | 18:54 |
| vgrade | hows the gun shop | 18:54 |
| CosmoHill | bit quiet | 18:54 |
| CosmoHill | was playing with this yesterday: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/DSC00888.JPG | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: yet everybody seems to think we should be doing only cellphone-like UIs on tablets and mobile devices.. | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | there's much more fun things to try | 18:55 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill, when you said 'playing with' do you mean shooting? | 18:55 |
| CosmoHill | no, just handerling it | 18:55 |
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| CosmoHill | i find myself doing sod all after work so I need to do more stuff | 18:59 |
| CosmoHill | atm I'm painting part of my car | 18:59 |
| CosmoHill | well, sanding the wiper arms | 19:00 |
| cristi | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/odroid-x-android-quad-core-developer-board-launches-for-129-video-13-07-2012/ | 19:00 |
| vgrade | thats the quad core, yes | 19:00 |
| zuh | beh, sb2 hates me :( http://pastie.org/4773958 | 19:01 |
| vgrade | any gles drivers with that? | 19:01 |
| zuh | It refuses to play armv6l for me | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: that's fine | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | well | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: what toolchain did you set it up with? | 19:01 |
| zuh | /opt/cross/bin/armv6l-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 19:01 |
| cristi | vgrade: it's mali400, so it has android adaptation and WIP free drivers | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, shouldn't need to worry about that | 19:02 |
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| zuh | Stskeeps: I'm worried that it messes up an autotools project | 19:02 |
| cristi | vgrade: it should work with the stuff developed by Stskeeps for android adaptations | 19:03 |
| vgrade | zuh, I made this ages ago, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: shouldn't matter | 19:03 |
| vgrade | cristi, ok | 19:03 |
| zuh | Stskeeps: Well, I guess I'll see what happens | 19:03 |
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| zuh | vgrade: I see the "Host SDK Development using gcc" section is empty, are you suggesting I should fill it in? ;) | 19:07 |
| vgrade | zuh, it links to the sdk page | 19:07 |
| vgrade | zuh and then to the sb2 page | 19:08 |
| zuh | Oh yeah, I'm following basically | 19:09 |
| vgrade | might be worth linking to those directly from the Pi gcc section. Feel free to add links | 19:09 |
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| cristi | Stskeeps: do you have any hardware adaptations for Mer using libhybris that could be published on OBS for reference? | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | cristi: that's on my list for the coming week | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | there's a few puzzle pieces i want aligned, so | 19:16 |
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| cristi | cool | 19:22 |
| cristi | I just ordered my second RPi and a ODroid-X :D | 19:23 |
| cristi | my current Pi is already in production :) | 19:24 |
| cristi | so I can't use it for hacking anymore | 19:24 |
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| ljp | hmm.. I suppose if mer/nemo uses qt5, some meego backends will need to get ported from qtmobility... | 21:55 |
| w00t | ljp: i personally think that'll happen on a case-by-case basis.. some areas for instance aren't clearly maintained, so it may end up being "safer" to port that part of mobility whole (+ backend) rather than try figure out the work needed to port the backends and risk using un-productized code | 21:58 |
| ljp | sure. I was specifically meaning sensors and systeminfo :) | 21:58 |
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| w00t | didn't you do sensors already? ;) | 22:10 |
| w00t | ah no | 22:10 |
| w00t | that was the sensorgesture backport to qt4 i remember seeing somewhere | 22:10 |
| w00t | :P | 22:10 |
| ljp | ya, the other way :) | 22:18 |
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| ljp | for sensors, it'll be fairly straight forward | 22:29 |
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