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| Stskeeps | huomenta jukkaeklund | 05:42 |
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| Skry | huomenta vain vaikkei minulle puhuttukkaan | 05:44 |
| beford | hakuna matata | 05:44 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: is there a maintained RPi hw adaption for Mer somewhere? I got my RPi yesterday and will start to use it for my "robotics" stuff | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: i think cristi was doing one | 06:17 |
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| Stskeeps | sec | 06:19 |
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| * Stskeeps pokes cobs with a stick | 06:19 | |
| Stskeeps | kulve: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Aalien%3Araspi | 06:20 |
| kulve | Couldn't find "cristi" in cobs.. | 06:20 |
| kulve | ah, thanks | 06:20 |
| timoph | btw, what's the schedule on moving away from meego cobs? | 06:22 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: we have a instance running but we first want stuff working | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | ie, it being production | 06:24 |
| kulve | Who's moving away from cobs? | 06:28 |
| timoph | everyone at some point :) | 06:28 |
| timoph | iirc it'll shutdown 2 years after the last meego release | 06:29 |
| timoph | or something like that | 06:29 |
| kulve | would that support 3rd party projects? I.e. could I use that for compiling my own projects? | 06:29 |
| kulve | it's possible with cobs now although I'm not sure if that's the intention.. | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: yes, that's the intention - we'll put nemo on there but mer and mer related stuff is always welcome | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: it works after a co-operative principle, so if you're using large amount of resources or support, you're expected to pitch in | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | for the random build here and there, it doesn't matter :) | 06:31 |
| timoph | just gimme the account nro where to pitch in and I'll do it | 06:32 |
| kulve | ok, sounds good. I'm just worried that it would be a bit expensive to run a farm like that and therefore no "extra" projects would be allowed.. | 06:32 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: we pay ~340 eur per month for mer infra atm | 06:32 |
| timoph | how many machines that covers? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | which all things considered, is quite cheap, considering that covers CI builders, etc | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex5 | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | we have a few of these babies | 06:33 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, morning | 06:33 |
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| * timoph could do a monthly 20e donation to the project | 06:34 | |
| JvD_ | is there a updated .ks for raspi or should we start with the one that's pointed in community workspaces wiki page? | 06:34 |
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| Stskeeps | JvD_: http://images.formeego.org/raspberry-pi/mer-core-armv6l-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-raspPi.ks - and change the repos to alien's instead | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | and a more modern mer release | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | i guess | 06:35 |
| JvD_ | yes that's the one I was talking about | 06:35 |
| JvD_ | thanks | 06:35 |
| kulve | hmm.. I tried that url yesterday from home and got an error. But now it works at work.. | 06:35 |
| JvD_ | i did build an image with latest mer and vgrades cobs repo | 06:36 |
| JvD_ | I failed to build mer image at home beacause of too old Linux distro | 06:38 |
| kulve | JvD_: isn't the image built inside the Mer SDK? The host distro shouldn't matter? | 06:38 |
| JvD_ | qemu version was too old | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | JvD_: just grab mer platform SDK | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | and you'll be much happier | 06:39 |
| JvD_ | ok =) | 06:39 |
| kulve | JvD_: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 06:40 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mikhas, how's UK? | 07:45 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, moin! | 07:46 |
| mikhas | actually, quite sunny and rain-free | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | sure you're in the UK? ;) | 07:46 |
| mikhas | no | 07:46 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, I blame Ryanair, god knows where we landed | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | probably spain :) | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: wrapping up with beta1 at the moment, i'll try to build maliit against it later today | 07:47 |
| mikhas | cool | 07:47 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, I have a bugreport with a patch you need to aplly | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 07:47 |
| mikhas | and then some examples will still fail … | 07:47 |
| mikhas | stupid last minute API breaks | 07:48 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, found it: https://bugs.maliit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 | 07:50 |
| Merbot | Bug 189: normal, Normal, ---, not-taken, NEW, Diff against fakeobs doesn't work in OBS webui | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 07:50 |
| mikhas | no merbot, that's Maliit ;-) | 07:50 |
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| ljp | qtmobility with sensor gestures compiles now :) | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 07:56 |
| ljp | working, of course, is something totally different | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | ship it ;) | 07:57 |
| ljp | havent even run autotests | 07:59 |
| ljp | 8 cores is nice | 08:00 |
| dakovaci | Once I get my Xserv up, I will laugh at your puny 8 cores :D | 08:01 |
| ljp | pff | 08:03 |
| ljp | do they run linux? | 08:05 |
| ljp | man, my n9 battery doesnt even last a day using 3g | 08:10 |
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| lbt | morning | 08:31 |
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| lbt | timoph: I can take donations - and if you're a vat/ltd company we can benefit from that too | 08:33 |
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| vgrade__ | interesting development, http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2012/09/supporting-comments-linux-foundation-announces-automotive-grade | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | they didn't have one already? | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds lovely, but i want to bet they'll end up with something like mer | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:34 |
| vgrade__ | builds on Tizen, so not sure yet how it differs | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | well that sounds like a winning strategy | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | wonder how GENIVI fits in there though | 09:35 |
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| vgrade__ | I'm at the conf this afternoon so will report later | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 09:36 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: how realistic is it to fit the QMF upgrade into next mer release? | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: semi | 09:36 |
| w00t | we don't have anything relying on it in nemo with the old SMS application gone, so there's very low risk of breakage I think.. unless the PA guys use it, which I doubt | 09:36 |
| * lbt notes I'm out this pm | 09:37 | |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, we're not meeting thursday anyway | 09:37 |
| lbt | nope | 09:37 |
| vgrade__ | from the Toyota comment in that page it would look like they want to cut out GENIVI | 09:38 |
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| Stskeeps | well, at least tizen ivi is going forward | 09:39 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade__: i think we're just seeing politics to be honest, genivi didn't want tizen in the form it was in, probably, and this is a douche move to make it go that way.. | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | and challengers in genivi from other reference platforms | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | which were doing better than the meego reference platform which was no longer receiving updates | 09:46 |
| vgrade__ | from what I hear this is being driven (pardon the pun) by Toyota | 09:47 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: did you read the latest genivi compliance draft? | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: no, i don't have access to that | 09:47 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: the _first_ item on the list of required elements was a flash plugin... | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: heh :) | 09:48 |
| Bostik | certainly made me raise eyebrows | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade__: and genivi is land rover.. | 09:48 |
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| vgrade__ | Stskeeps: genivi is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GENIVI_Alliance#Members but some are also mentioned in the AGL release | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | well, i don't have much faith in any LF projects anyway | 09:53 |
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| dm8tbr | got burnt much? ;) | 09:54 |
| situ | Hi all | 10:07 |
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| sledges | another political axe... How could we make Mer spotted by big heads eventually? | 10:32 |
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| Bostik | osmosis, mostly (my opinion) | 10:33 |
| lbt | new kernel ... bbiab | 10:34 |
| lbt | Bostik: jolla news should help | 10:34 |
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| Bostik | lbt: osmosis :) | 10:34 |
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| sledges | let's have fingers cross, keep calm and carry on :) | 10:35 |
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| lbt | sound like something broke internally | 11:37 |
| JvD_ | now I am much happier | 11:38 |
| lbt | erm wrong chan | 11:38 |
| JvD_ | I have platform SDK runnin g | 11:38 |
| lbt | JvD_: good - any issues? | 11:38 |
| JvD_ | I had to do sudo zypper install syslinux-extlinux inside chroot | 11:38 |
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| lbt | JvD_: OK - can you file a bug as to why - but I think that's a bad dependency for mic for certain types of image | 11:40 |
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| JvD_ | ok | 11:41 |
| kulve | I think I had to do the same originally.. | 11:42 |
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| dm8tbr | damn those setbacks are hard for vivaldi | 12:59 |
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| Sage_ | dm8tbr: ? | 13:02 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: if anything it shows what chalennges exist in the marketplace | 13:03 |
| dm8tbr | http://aseigo.blogspot.de/2012/09/a-small-update-on-vivaldi.html | 13:03 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: pushed device-mapper fix/update to review and testing that on exo soon | 13:08 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ok, verified that with that device-mapper it boots | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:11 |
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| deztructor | hmm, in mer sdk sb2 executes command for target with USER=<username> but user is nemo | 13:12 |
| faenil | there's Jussi Hurmola live at http://okfestival.org/streams/hack-cinema-1/ :D | 13:13 |
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| timoph | got it already | 14:11 |
| timoph | seems to need some updating | 14:11 |
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| Bostik | oh yum, 2xRPi | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | you got two? | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:53 |
| Bostik | yup, ordered two and got both | 15:54 |
| Bostik | one for daughter's computer, one for own experiments | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 15:54 |
| Bostik | still waiting for the monitor, but that's coming from Germany (Lilliput 8" 'car monitor') | 15:55 |
| lbt | touch ? | 15:58 |
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| dm8tbr | moo | 16:32 |
| moo-_- | dm8tbr: yo | 16:32 |
| dm8tbr | heh :D | 16:32 |
| dm8tbr | moo-_-: I'm moo on irc.mozilla.org and pretty much the same thing happens to me from time to time... | 16:33 |
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| moo-_- | dm8tbr: so you are my evil clone stealing my nick on irc.mozilla.org! ;) | 16:35 |
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| dm8tbr | :> | 16:37 |
| dm8tbr | lbt_away: done, the only thing missing now is reverse proxy | 16:37 |
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| marcosx86 | hi people | 17:22 |
| marcosx86 | I tried to mic-image-create the minimal-n900.ks that is on the wiki | 17:22 |
| marcosx86 | got a couple of issues | 17:22 |
| marcosx86 | anyone maintain that? | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | did you install mer platform SDK? | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | and do it within there? | 17:23 |
| marcosx86 | I ran from a Debian VM, just with the mic, compiled from git | 17:23 |
| marcosx86 | the problems were related to the packages, not the environment | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, no | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | install mer platform SDK | 17:23 |
| marcosx86 | first of all, I changed "copy-kernel" to "save-kernel", cuz it wasn't recognizing | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | basically you need to get mer platform SDK to get the right versions of everything | 17:25 |
| marcosx86 | then when I ran mic gain, it said "Nokia N900 Proprietary Support" wasn't found | 17:25 |
| marcosx86 | so I googled and saw each rpm name for the whole package and replaced the @thing for all packages | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | so all the errors you're getting at the moment aren't real errors from the tools we ourselves use | 17:26 |
| marcosx86 | then mic worked | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | so, please, install mer platform SDK :) | 17:26 |
| marcosx86 | but when I burned the raw image, I get now kernel panic by VFS not mouting root | 17:27 |
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| marcosx86 | yeah, I'll make another VM with the platform sdk later, I'm outside home now | 17:28 |
| marcosx86 | also I got some "key not found in repo" messages | 17:28 |
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| marcosx86 | and confirmed by looking into the url's inside the ks | 17:28 |
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| * zchydem thinks that he shouldn't do anything today... Things just dont' work at all | 17:39 | |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,849 check armv7tnhl build something is REALLY WRONG there :) | 17:40 |
| Sage_ | lbt_away: ^ | 17:41 |
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| Bostik | btw.. anyone in Hki? I'm there tomorrow and have evening open | 18:37 |
| Bostik | wouldn't take much of an effort to persuade me for a beer | 18:37 |
| * Stskeeps is (sadly) in warsaw | 18:37 | |
| Bostik | another time with you, mate | 18:38 |
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| Sage_ | Bostik: sry, going to tampere tomorrow :/ | 18:42 |
| Bostik | every third Thursday? | 18:43 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: note my comment about armv7tnhl where it rebuilds everything everytime? | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: yes, though i'm not surprisd | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | it may be due to the glibc aggregate | 19:54 |
| Sage_ | ok, it slows down the reviews quite a bit | 19:54 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 19:55 |
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