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| JvD_ | morniong | 03:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn _Thomas | 04:54 |
| JvD_ | looks like i was wrong about vgrades raspberry kickstart file being broken | 05:00 |
| JvD_ | it seems to work just fine | 05:01 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning dakovaci | 05:21 |
| dakovaci | morning Stskeeps :D | 05:21 |
| Stskeeps | dakovaci: how difficult would be to run qt5 test suite post 'make install' on a device, you think? | 05:23 |
| Stskeeps | ie, something that's installable and runnable on an actual device | 05:23 |
| dakovaci | not hard at all | 05:23 |
| dakovaci | yes | 05:23 |
| dakovaci | unit or system test? | 05:24 |
| Stskeeps | well, i guess either - we can't reasonably run the unit tests for ARM within our build systems | 05:24 |
| Stskeeps | but something that verifies qt5 is 'behaving correctly' | 05:24 |
| dakovaci | well all of the system tests were being run on the IC system | 05:25 |
| dakovaci | but you could run them on the device manually as well | 05:25 |
| dakovaci | you just need to make stests | 05:25 |
| dakovaci | then make check | 05:25 |
| dakovaci | tests and examples are not built by default | 05:26 |
| Stskeeps | one of the most difficult parts of testing a core, like Mer, is to get proper test coverage, so having qt5 test all it's dependencies is a pretty good start | 05:27 |
| dakovaci | yeah | 05:27 |
| dakovaci | I have managed to get Nemo on the device today, so me is happy :D | 05:30 |
| Stskeeps | cool :) | 05:30 |
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| dakovaci | the mac was not playing well for some reason | 05:30 |
| dakovaci | so fired up the wintel box | 05:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. usb flasher is always a challlenge | 05:31 |
| ljp | I always flash with linux | 05:31 |
| dakovaci | I was going to try to get some tests running and see how it does | 05:31 |
| dakovaci | don't want to commit my N9 to the task until I get a new phone, tell me, is the performance on the N9 better than the N900? | 05:32 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, the SGX is much better, more ram, higher ghz.. | 05:33 |
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| Stskeeps | otoh n900 has a more modern kernel, for now | 05:33 |
| dakovaci | yeah, the N900 is just on the other side of sluggish | 05:34 |
| timoph | morning | 05:35 |
| dakovaci | morn | 05:35 |
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| Stskeeps | sometimes the non-coexistence of qt4 and qt5 annoys me a bit | 05:40 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, on devel header level / pkgconfig | 05:41 |
| dakovaci | Nemo is all Qt 4, isnt it? | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | i have a seperate (open) project/effort where we take qt5, build VMs with that and software rendering / llvmpipe, qml compositor, wayland, try to take components from nemo and qt5-ify them | 05:42 |
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| Stskeeps | as well as my project to put qt5 on android hardware adaptations.. without actually running android: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvRP3rcF9o&feature=g-upl | 05:43 |
| dakovaci | cool | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | simply because the biggest lesson ever learnt from working with nokia.. always have hardware that can run your next platform with a stable hardware adaptation, you can't iterate your UI fast enough with with hw that constantly breaks | 05:45 |
| dakovaci | yeah, true | 05:45 |
| dakovaci | been there done that :) | 05:46 |
| Bostik | "require: working hw" | 05:46 |
| Bostik | feels familiar | 05:46 |
| ljp | I think nokia tried to learn that several times... | 05:47 |
| dakovaci | but never really learned that lesson :D | 05:47 |
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| ljp | nope | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: qt5 beta1 coming along nicely | 05:48 |
| ljp | probably doing it still | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: packaging up qtgraphicaleffects too | 05:48 |
| timoph | there's always a level of management that fails to get it in big corporations | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | already had it up and running with -platform xcb on n9 | 05:48 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: neato, although I guess the toolchain upgrade isn't in the default target yet | 05:49 |
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| Bostik | just tried a qtbase rebuild and it went flat | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: it is delivered as part of latest snapshot | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | not full release though | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | as i want to have qt5 beta1 in there | 05:50 |
| Bostik | ah | 05:50 |
| * timoph ponders core dumping | 05:50 | |
| Stskeeps | timoph: that bad morning? ;) | 05:51 |
| timoph | :p | 05:51 |
| timoph | kinda like seeing things crash and burn | 05:51 |
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| timoph | working on a script that creates sb2 target by rsyncing, installs debug stuff, extracts rich-cores and gets a backtrace from them | 05:53 |
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| timoph | need to make the script a bit smarter than it currently is | 05:53 |
| timoph | things like figuring out arch for sb2-init, etc. | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | :nod; | 05:54 |
| timoph | also pondering about doing things on device | 05:54 |
| timoph | the on-device approach is simpler and faster | 05:55 |
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| Stskeeps | some things can be done on device, but debug symbols are really harsh, like qt ones | 05:55 |
| timoph | yep | 05:55 |
| timoph | in any case I plan to document both options | 05:55 |
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| timoph | imo it's up to the developer to choose which approach to use | 05:56 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 05:57 |
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| timoph | /etc/mer-release always in the same format? | 06:09 |
| timoph | so I could do something like this: arch=$(cat /etc/mer-release | cut -d "-" -f 3 | tail -1) | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | mmmm | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | do you do this from the device? | 06:10 |
| timoph | yep | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | if so, rpm --eval '%{_arch}' might be better | 06:10 |
| timoph | or in the rsynced rootfs | 06:10 |
| * timoph tries | 06:10 | |
| Stskeeps | there might be a better one than %{_arch} | 06:11 |
| timoph | that just returns arm | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:11 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: if you're wondering why some/most of the tests are not built during qt5 compilation, I had to disable them (patch out from .pro) when they systematically failed, and at least in one situation failed to compile | 06:12 |
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| Bostik | no idea if they have been fixed since | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: yeah, i'll look at that when stuff has built | 06:13 |
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| Stskeeps | qtgraphicaleffects built \o/ | 06:16 |
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| timoph | yay! | 06:16 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | morn situ | 06:30 |
| Bostik | morning indeed | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | ASSERT: "i >= 0 && i < elementCount()" in file painting/qpainterpath.cpp, line 499 | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | well, that's promising | 06:33 |
| * timoph ponders if "arch=$(ls /var/cache/zypp/packages/mer-core/ | grep -v noarch)" does the job | 06:36 | |
| Stskeeps | well, qtcinematicexperience isn't exactly well performing on n9 | 06:38 |
| timoph | lbt: ping | 06:40 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning mikkoh | 06:44 |
| mikkoh | Stskeeps: good morning | 06:44 |
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| _Thomas | Stskeeps: Morning :) | 07:07 |
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| veskuh | anyone else had issues in cloning git repos over https with mer sdk? | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: "out of memory" issue, or certificate issues? | 07:10 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps, certificate | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: seen my latest exploits? | 07:10 |
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| Stskeeps | veskuh: try install multi_c_rehash and ca-certificates | 07:10 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps, same repo works fine outside mersdk | 07:10 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: No? :) | 07:11 |
| veskuh | yep multi_c_rehash was missing ca-certificates was preinstalled | 07:11 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: We've been so busy making Cotton Candy a reality for sales :) | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvRP3rcF9o | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: ability to sanely use android GPU drivers under non-android (mer) | 07:11 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: Released beta1 now, and getting CE/FCC documents next week | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: sounds good :) i may buy one | 07:12 |
| phaeron | veskuh: then you need run multi_c_rehash | 07:12 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: Cool | 07:12 |
| veskuh | phaeron, no, still fails | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: did 1024x768 at 60fps on an android kernel, on qualcomm hardware, with gpu drivers built against bionic, so pretty nice demo | 07:13 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: We will release working drivers for OpenGL with and without X11, tho, so it doesn't matter so much for our product :) | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | _Thomas: yeah, you're the good guys :) | 07:13 |
| phaeron | veskuh: what's the error ? | 07:13 |
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| veskuh | so running sudo multi_c_rehash fixed my problem, thanks phaeron | 07:17 |
| phaeron | good :) | 07:17 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:26 |
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| timoph | Reminder: Platform SDK meeting in 30 minutes in #mer-meeting | 08:31 |
| timoph | lbt: ok for you to explain the current status of the sdk at the beginning of the meeting? | 08:32 |
| lbt | yes | 08:34 |
| timoph | great | 08:34 |
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| timoph | Platform SDK meeting starting in 2 minutes in #mer-meeting | 08:58 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: let's schedule tomorrow for you to explain git-pkg for me | 09:12 |
| lbt | yep | 09:16 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/git-pkg has a readme | 09:16 |
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| sledges | zumbi, yes I played with QSB | 09:21 |
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| sledges | (good morning ;)) | 09:22 |
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| zumbi | sledges: hi! but QSB or QSB-R? | 09:44 |
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| faenil | hi everyone :) | 09:55 |
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| sledges | heya faenil :) | 10:02 |
| faenil | hey :) | 10:02 |
| sledges | zumbi, it was QSB, not the -R . Hopefully it's only the PMIC difference :) | 10:03 |
| sledges | and I used ltib's patched uboot and kernel - best bet | 10:03 |
| zumbi | sledges: whats ltib? | 10:03 |
| zumbi | sledges: mainline u-boot works fine, but kernel is missing PMIC | 10:04 |
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| zumbi | so it does not mount root (when its in SD card) - for QSBR | 10:04 |
| zumbi | QSB are fine | 10:04 |
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| sledges | Freescale's BSP dev kit uses ltib: I wonder if there's a newer one: L2.6.35_11.09.01_ER_source.tar.gz + Linux_20201112_20patch_bundle.tar.gz | 10:08 |
| sledges | checkout freescale's website, support for QSBs | 10:08 |
| sledges | you'll get officially supported kernel+uboot which will take time to hit mainlines | 10:08 |
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| timoph | lbt: we could restart the sdk sync meetings. something like bi-weekly | 10:17 |
| lbt | I'm OK with that | 10:17 |
| lbt | feedback is good | 10:17 |
| sledges | zumbi, ^ if you didn't get yet :) | 10:20 |
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| timoph | lbt: lets set a time slot for it later (a bit busy atm) | 10:31 |
| faenil | is a new Mer SDK coming out anytime soon? I have to set everything back up after the format... | 10:32 |
| timoph | was just released a day or two ago | 10:35 |
| faenil | yeah checked last modified date on server, thanks :) | 10:35 |
| timoph | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00761.html | 10:35 |
| faenil | crap, I'm not subscribed...subscribing :) | 10:36 |
| timoph | :) | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | wb marcosx86 | 11:48 |
| marcosx86 | wat | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | marcosx86: you might want to grab Mer Platform SDK, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SD | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | marcosx86: you might want to grab Mer Platform SDK, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 11:48 |
| marcosx86 | sure | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | saw your talk last night, so | 11:49 |
| marcosx86 | yesterday i stepped into mic2 and building | 11:49 |
| marcosx86 | the image | 11:49 |
| marcosx86 | but i have deeper plans | 11:49 |
| marcosx86 | since i have some distro knowledge | 11:49 |
| marcosx86 | as of linuxfromscratch.org experiences | 11:50 |
| marcosx86 | like doing linux distros every 6 months | 11:50 |
| marcosx86 | I want to give some extra life to my N900 | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | okay, though nemo project already provides quite good support for n900 | 11:50 |
| marcosx86 | tried on NITdroid but there is a low level of papers and stuff available | 11:51 |
| marcosx86 | i mean, e-yes is now concentrated on N9 aswell the other involved guys | 11:51 |
| Sage_ | lbt, timoph: sry, missed the sdk brainstorm. Couple of comments. First is the sdk mount, enter thing. Persoanlly I need to do unmount, mount, enter | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | marcosx86: did you try nemo on your n900 yet? | 11:52 |
| Sage_ | lbt, timoph: whe e.g. rebooting computer without first doing unmount it well leaves stuff there and simple mount doesn't do | 11:52 |
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| Stskeeps | marcosx86: did you try nemo on your n900 yet? | 11:57 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,844 <- what went wrong? | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: needs to be kicked | 12:00 |
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| marcosx86 | sorry i went down: 3g network | 12:01 |
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| marcosx86 | what was my last text? | 12:04 |
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| iekku | 14:50 < marcosx86> I want to give some extra life to my N900 | 12:04 |
| marcosx86 | omg, i wrote like 12 things to /dev/null lol | 12:05 |
| lbt | Sage_: I am happy for users to write wrappers for their own SDK usage - and I think the enter/mount problem is simple-ish to solve | 12:06 |
| marcosx86 | I tried on NITdroid but there is a low level of papers and resources on how to build and improve it, the guys involved are now concentrated on N9 and other recent models | 12:06 |
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| marcosx86 | I got sleep yesterday just after successfully building a 1.1.90 meego image, tried also latest ks but no success since I had like 10 broken dependencies | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | you should just try nemo images | 12:08 |
| marcosx86 | I often try out some images, carry always a 4gb card with a burned image | 12:08 |
| marcosx86 | tried most meego images, and some nemo images also | 12:08 |
| marcosx86 | I havent liked too much the latest one, with a fake shutdown option on top bar (or it doesnt work) | 12:09 |
| marcosx86 | so today morning I burned the latest -1 image (mid-aug) | 12:09 |
| marcosx86 | now Im talking from maemo over 3g | 12:10 |
| marcosx86 | :) | 12:10 |
| marcosx86 | also Im aware of the Jolla venture, reading about it | 12:10 |
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| marcosx86 | next days ill learn about the KS files and what is composed the meego/mer | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:13 |
| Sage_ | lbt: yes, I'm not seeing it a problem just saying what I experienced | 12:14 |
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| marcosx86 | by the way, I dont know too much about you people | 12:14 |
| lbt | probably for the best... :D | 12:14 |
| Bostik | hang around, get a feel | 12:14 |
| timoph | Sage_: yeah. that's why I'm using the mount-enter-umount script. Need to think how to make it work so lbt approves :p | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | marcosx86: we like icecream, that's all you need to know.. | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:14 |
| Bostik | then decide whether you want to actually know more | 12:15 |
| marcosx86 | Stskeeps, you are a maintainer? | 12:15 |
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| Stskeeps | marcosx86: mer project architect | 12:15 |
| lbt | marcosx86: webpage has some background | 12:15 |
| marcosx86 | lbt, yeah I saw once but cant remember everything yet :) | 12:16 |
| marcosx86 | a little doubt, mer core is fedora or debian? | 12:19 |
| lbt | neither - but it is rpm based | 12:20 |
| marcosx86 | i saw some packages related to rpms and zypper, guess fedora | 12:20 |
| marcosx86 | oh, so, just package, not about repo | 12:20 |
| lbt | correct | 12:21 |
| marcosx86 | i use debian for like 4 years, had low contact on yum/rpm style | 12:21 |
| * lbt uses debian all the time | 12:22 | |
| marcosx86 | recently i was modding a broken tablet with a debootstrapped arm rootfs | 12:24 |
| marcosx86 | pretty cool, even no good interfaces, usb just thru a ugly 28pin connection | 12:24 |
| RaYmAn | slightly offtopic I know, but anyone here happen to have an unlocked TF300 running pre-JB? :) | 12:25 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,845 | 13:40 |
| w00t | should allow http://review.merproject.org/#change,783 to build | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | ta | 13:41 |
| w00t | oh.. dammit | 13:41 |
| w00t | special just caught me not fixing spec/yaml | 13:41 |
| w00t | :P | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | bad w00t | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:41 |
| * w00t harrumphs | 13:42 | |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: 846 now | 13:55 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: got a URL for the sb2 sdk rules? | 13:58 |
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| timoph | do we have .ks or images for the Pi somewhere? | 14:29 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/sdk-kickstarter-configs.git;a=tree;f=modes;h=0ed5cf4f03799feaaf70d71e983489b467cd783d;hb=master | 14:38 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559 is probably a fix needed in sdk-build / sdk-install | 15:10 |
| Merbot | Bug 559: major, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, var/run symlink causes sb2 target's zypper not to work | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | to add /run in the rules | 15:10 |
| Sage_ | can osc handle properly multiple simultanouse local builds btw? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | if you seperate the build roots in .oscrc | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: did you get your r-pi yet btw? | 15:11 |
| lbt | careful about cache updates too | 15:11 |
| ljp | Stskeeps: yes, havent done anything with it yet though | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: alright | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: it's a bit of a target for the qt5+wayland stack i want to do as well, so was curious | 15:12 |
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| zenvoid | hmm... qt.nokia.com now redirects to qt.digia.com | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | didn't you read the acquisition is now complete? | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | (thank $DEITY) | 15:31 |
| lbt | \o/ | 15:31 |
| zenvoid | no idea about the acquisition until now | 15:33 |
| zenvoid | I just started reading a doc in the nokia page, and it seems it has been changed in the middle :) | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 15:34 |
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| lbt | dakovaci: can you fix your client please | 19:14 |
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| An_t_Eilean | Hi. | 19:31 |
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| Sage_ | An_t_Eilean: hello | 19:39 |
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| An_t_Eilean | Hi Sage_ | 19:53 |
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| An_t_Eilean | You probably know about sound cutting out from bluetooth playback on the N9. I'm just looking for a solution and haven't found a definitive answer. So I'm wondering would any one here be able to point me in the right direction? | 19:55 |
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| Sage_ | An_t_Eilean: depends if you are talking about the meego 1.2 harmattan or nemo on your n9. | 19:59 |
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| An_t_Eilean | Well, it's meego 1.3 harmattan... I doubt that matters to you though. | 20:00 |
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| Sage_ | An_t_Eilean: well then I would advice you to go to #harmattan channel instead | 20:22 |
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| An_t_Eilean | Sage_ Okay thanks. On nemo, where should I go to have a look at it? | 20:24 |
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| Sage_ | An_t_Eilean: well, if you are using harmattan n9 as your primary phone I doubt that you want to install nemo on it. | 20:25 |
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| An_t-Eilean | Sorry dropped off there. | 20:26 |
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