Saturday, 2012-09-08

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iekkumorning04:06
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dm8tbrmoaning05:05
Stskeepsmorn05:07
timopho/05:10
iekku\o05:12
Jopeiä iä cthulhu f'tagn05:17
* Stskeeps waits for coffee to brew and mer to build05:18
* Jope eats cereal and plots his next move05:18
lpotterlbt: whats quickbuild?05:25
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Stskeepshmm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XQfuVCF1ok4 seems like an interesting online series05:35
Stskeepswell, miniepisodes05:35
SageStskeeps: already watched Video Game High School https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JqR3GVqib4 ;)06:08
* Stskeeps looks06:08
Stskeepsdoes this thing know i'm moving soon.. ikea 2013 catalogue advertisement06:09
Sageiekku: what time will you be at devaamo today?06:10
iekkuSage, about 12:0506:11
Sageis there some schedule announced somewhere btw?06:11
iekkuno06:13
iekku12 starting, then presentations, then hacking06:14
Sageok, was planning of being there after 11 myself.06:15
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Stskeepsgood morning veskuh :)06:19
veskuhMorning Stskeeps :)06:19
iekkuSage, my bus is at 11:45 in the tre busstation06:20
veskuhStskeeps: care to review my slides for today? Especially feedback on "Contributiong to mer" slide would be appreciated..06:20
Stskeepsveskuh, if it's in PDF yes, on the move atm06:29
veskuhStskeeps: its a big 5MB odp. I'll do a pdf on the Mer slide for you, and ask on the #nemomobile comments from others to full doc06:31
veskuhStskeeps: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45141614/merslide.pdf06:33
StskeepsContribution_in_detail too06:35
veskuhok06:35
Stskeepsotherwise good06:35
veskuhthanks06:36
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faenilleaving, cya there people! :)07:23
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Stskeepslbt: ping when awake08:42
Stskeepshttp://devaamo.fi:8000/stream1.ogv livestream from mer/nemo/jolla hackday09:03
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: stream broken?09:10
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timophStskeeps: I'll start in about 5 mins or so09:13
Stskeepsno worries, i'm home now09:13
timophthe presentation shouldn't take longer than 10 mins09:13
dm8tbrStskeeps: had to restart09:13
Stskeepsdid all my chores so09:13
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timophI'll find someone to type in the questions to irc09:14
* timoph looks at dm8tbr 09:14
lbtStskeeps: pong09:14
Stskeepslbt: so i decided to save us both some time and Core:armv7tnhl is set up09:14
lbtawake but coffeeless :)09:14
Stskeepswill start full build in ~20 min09:14
lbtOK09:14
Stskeepsit's better to be early than late with this stuff, so09:15
dm8tbrtimoph: ?09:15
lbtStskeeps: so what steps were left?09:16
lbt /home/prjfetcher-mertools/release-tools/obs-projects/Core/armv7tnhl:09:16
Stskeepslbt: sb2-tools-template wasn't submited09:16
Stskeepsand binutils didn't include new .specs09:16
Stskeepsand something in packages.xml..09:16
Stskeepser, .in09:16
Stskeepseither way, it's on track now09:17
Stskeepscurrently building the cross compiler09:17
Stskeepsdm8tbr / timoph: how many have shown up?09:17
lbtare they in gerrit09:17
Stskeepslbt: yes09:18
timophStskeeps: pretty much a full house09:18
Stskeepstimoph: good09:18
dm8tbrI'll do a sneaky stream of the audience ;)09:18
timoph:D09:18
dm8tbrbtw: how's the stream audio?09:20
Stskeepspretty good09:20
lpottersounds good hear, kind of distorts on loud parts09:21
lpotterhere, not hear.. heh09:21
Stskeepsi spot an iekku09:21
matrixx:)09:21
Stskeepsis somebody having xrandr issues?09:22
Stskeeps:P09:22
jusa_quite unlikely...09:23
matrixx\o/09:23
iekkuStskeeps, my voice or my hair?09:24
* lbt has audio only :/09:24
lbt(mplayer)09:25
dm8tbrworks for me in vlc and firefox09:25
dm8tbrmplayer has problems with the partial frames it gets09:25
lbtvlc ++09:25
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Stskeeps'when meego went south', heh :)09:26
dm8tbrsort of a icecast bug09:26
dm8tbras we should send proper frame first09:27
lpotterworks good in chrome09:27
dm8tbrhttp://devaamo.fi:8000/stream2.ogv - audience ;)09:29
lbtouch09:31
Stskeepsouchwhat?09:32
Stskeeps:P09:32
dm8tbrtsk only 2 viewers... prolly carsten and lorn09:32
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Stskeepson the stream1 or stream2?09:32
dm8tbrah, wrong 1709:33
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* dm8tbr checked the backend server by mistake :D09:33
Stskeepshehe09:33
dm8tbrI stopped stream2 anyway09:33
lbtI noticed :)09:33
Stskeeps:P09:34
matrixx:D09:34
dm8tbrok QA coming up!09:35
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Stskeepsok09:35
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dm8tbrstream has prolly 30+s lag09:36
dm8tbrso beware09:36
timophquestions are go09:36
lbto/09:36
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matrixxtimoph: your slide says @ #mer-meeting09:36
matrixxso which one is it?09:37
Stskeeps#mer-meeting09:37
Stskeeps:P09:37
matrixxok :)09:37
* matrixx haz too many windows too09:38
iekku82 currently09:38
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Andy80hi guys :)09:39
Stskeepsheya09:39
matrixxhi09:40
iekkuhello09:40
Andy80I'm following the streaming ;) is this the proper channel for the JollaHackDay or there is another one?09:42
Stskeeps#mer-meeting09:42
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Andy80Stskeeps: thanks :)09:43
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Sagedm8tbr: what is the delay in the webcam btw. Have exact number?09:48
dm8tbrSage: depends on viewer side buffering09:49
dm8tbrI'd expect >10s09:49
dm8tbrI have a low latency stream for QA available on request09:50
Sagedm8tbr: the contrast is quite bad on stefanos slides09:51
SageOne can't really see the text09:51
dm8tbryes, sorry...09:51
Sagenot sure if there is anything one could do about that09:51
dm8tbrI don't expect the slides to be very readable in general09:51
dm8tbrif they are: lucky viewers09:51
dm8tbrit's more about the people and interaction anyway09:51
Stskeepsyeah09:52
Stskeepsgetting people together09:52
timophyeah09:52
dm8tbr(need to get a better webcam for the future...)09:53
dm8tbrsomething 720p-ish09:54
timophmaybe devaamo can buy one of those09:54
Stskeepsit's better than telcos i've been in recently..09:54
Stskeepsin terms in audio etc..09:54
Stskeeps:P09:54
iekkuStskeeps, :D09:55
dm8tbrROFL, it's a tinsy mic in the webcam....09:55
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: i am almost scared how good it is09:55
Stskeeps:P09:55
* lbt suspects the software helps09:55
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Venemohey09:56
Stskeepsheya Venemo09:56
Stskeepswas good seeing you in katowice09:56
Venemothanks :) it was nice seeing you too Stskeeps  :)09:57
Venemoso you're having this jolla hack day now?09:57
Stskeepsyes09:57
Stskeepsnot there yet09:57
Venemoit's a pity I couldn't attend09:57
dm8tbrbtw: the streaming 'setup' is visible on stream2 ;)09:57
dm8tbrand timoph when he leans back...09:57
Venemodm8tbr: where?09:57
Stskeepshttp://devaamo.fi:8000/stream2.ogv09:57
dm8tbrhttp://devaamo.fi:8000/stream1.ogv09:57
Stskeepserr.. yeah09:58
dm8tbrstream1 is official09:58
dm8tbrstream2 is me having random fun09:58
Venemodm8tbr: would be nice if I could actually see the presenter on the stream09:59
Venemodm8tbr: right now I only see some of the audience09:59
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VenemoI can also see timoph there10:00
lbtVenemo: stream 110:00
faenilhey Venemo10:00
Venemohey faenil  :)10:00
dm8tbrVenemo: stream110:01
Venemodm8tbr: thx10:01
Venemooooh, lots of Mer t-shirts there10:01
Venemofaenil: how's the event?10:02
faenilgreat :>10:03
Venemosorry I couldn't go10:03
faenilyeah it's a pity10:03
faenilnp ;)10:03
Venemoperhaps next time, jolla could finance the flight for community devs :P10:04
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faenil_n950ahaah hope so :)10:04
Venemohm, I thought 'jolla' was going to be pronounced with the Finnish 'j'10:04
faenil_n950cant sell another tablet to attend the next event ;D10:04
iekkuVenemo, somehow it turned with not finnish10:05
faenil_n950Venemo I think everyone thought so10:05
Venemoiekku: go there and slap the presenter10:05
iekkuVenemo, nooo, i will do that later when real need to do so10:06
iekku:P10:06
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Venemook10:07
Venemoat least slap the stupid guy with the qt 5 question10:07
iekkuhehe10:08
lpottersome other company already tried that. lesson learned.10:09
lpotter(qt5)10:09
Venemohehe10:09
iekkuVenemo, he said his working with it10:10
Venemowhich channel are they taking the irc questions from?10:10
lbt#mer-meeting10:10
Venemocan I just ask a question?10:11
iekkuyes10:11
Venemoand they will answer it in the live event?10:11
faenil_n950yes10:11
Venemoawesome10:12
iekkuVenemo, isn't it?10:12
Venemoiekku :)10:12
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* Stskeeps changes to stream210:33
totteWait, what's this event?10:34
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Stskeepstotte: devaamo hackday with mer/nemo/jolla in tampere10:35
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Stskeepsyes, we actually get out in this OSS project too10:35
Stskeeps:P10:35
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totteOhh nice! I wish I had known and could attend. I never pay events much attention since they often seem to be held in the US.10:42
lpotterwhat is that place? I have seen it before10:44
Stskeepslpotter: new factory in tampere10:44
* w00t likes it there10:45
lbttotte: most events relevant to Mer are european10:45
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* w00t votes Sleepy_Coder to start some US events10:47
w00t:P10:47
Stskeepsfor aussie10:47
Stskeepser, aussie10:47
Sleepy_Coderharblah10:48
Stskeepslbt: so, explained quickbuild yet?10:48
lbtosc build -o --rebuild --rsync-src=qtwebkit-2.2.1-source --rsync-dest=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qtwebkit-2.2.1-source Core_armv7hl  armv8el10:49
* lbt takes the Stskeeps approach to docs ^^10:49
Sleepy_Coderoh tampere is in finland, imagine that10:49
lbthey Sleepy_Coder10:49
Sleepy_Coderhola :-)10:50
Sleepy_CoderHow are you?10:50
Sfiet_Konstantinhi everybody10:50
Sleepy_Codergowai we're doing science!10:50
lbtSleepy_Coder: doing well :)10:50
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lbtSleepy_Coder: in the US ... surely you jest!10:50
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm trying mer on a Lenovo X200 (no touch screen). Does nemo provides a package to display the mouse ?10:50
Sfiet_Konstantinthanks in advance :)10:50
Sleepy_CoderI don't know what to say to that... I would joke but the US is getting to the point where all jokes run rancid :<10:50
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: you can change that in /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch10:50
Sfiet_Konstantink10:51
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause in plasma active itwas possible10:51
Sleepy_Coderlbt: do you guys watch our conventions?  The Republican and Democratic conventions?10:51
Sleepy_Coder(just curious)10:51
lbtSleepy_Coder: *g* well, I'm scheduled to do the next lua project soon10:51
lbtno, not really10:51
Sleepy_Coderorly ;D10:51
Sleepy_Coderwhat does the next lua project entail?10:52
Sleepy_Coder:}10:52
lbtmore macros in spec files10:52
Sleepy_CoderI've always had an unnatural afflicting addiction for macros in various languages..10:52
lpotterorientation needs work10:54
Stskeepsyeah, it's oversensitive atm10:54
DocScrutinizer05is  jhnikula here?10:54
Sleepy_Coderoversensitive? :o10:54
lbttends to switch orientation too easily10:54
lbtwe're watching a video stream of his presentation on #mer-meeting10:55
dakovaciwatching as well, Hi all :D10:55
Stskeepso/ dakovaci10:55
dakovacimissed it live, but love the catchup :D10:55
DocScrutinizer05[2012-09-08 12:39:31] <Skry> jhnikula@gmail.com: voltage.c: OMAP4430_VDD_CORE_OPPx's in10:56
DocScrutinizer05[2012-09-08 12:39:31] <Skry> omap34xx_vdd1_vdd2_data replaced with OMAP3430_VDD_CORE_OPP3_UV. First10:56
StskeepsDocScrutinizer05: what do you need him for?10:56
DocScrutinizer05to shed some more light on those notes10:56
DocScrutinizer05particularly >>... and since the DSS don't work if core voltage is scaled.]10:57
Sleepy_Coderoic10:57
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DocScrutinizer05skry struggling with freq-scaling/SR in kernel-3.6 for RX-5110:59
dakovacihehehe, the dreaded "We look forward to your patch " :D11:00
StskeepsDocScrutinizer05: i'll ping them on monday, they're not around today i think11:00
DocScrutinizer05thanks a lot, I'll ry to get skry here so get rid of parrot role11:01
Stskeepsyeah11:01
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DocScrutinizer05Skry: <Stskeeps> DocScrutinizer05: i'll ping them on monday, they're not around today i think11:02
StskeepsSkry: basically kjokinie and jnikula is happy to talk about n900/n950/n9 kernels11:03
Stskeepsthe latest nokia layoffs meant there's suddenly capable people around ;)11:03
Stskeepsbut not sure if they're online atm11:03
dakovaciI am one of them :D11:03
DocScrutinizer05hey!! ;-D11:03
dakovaciso, yes, we are :D11:04
DocScrutinizer05new aspect on the nasty layoffs11:04
lbtdakovaci: you're in the right place then :)11:04
dakovaciby choice, I assure you11:04
lbtQt guy?11:04
dakovaciyeah, Brisbane office11:04
lbtsaw the .au :)11:05
dakovaciI know a couple more that are watching the broadcast now11:05
dakovacian old Troll11:05
lbt#mer-meeting is the irc chat for the streaming11:05
dakovacithx11:05
* lpotter wonders who is old11:06
dakovaciyeah, I am glad that you recognised yourself lpotter11:06
lbtdakovaci: don't suppose you know about qtwebkit build system?11:06
SkryStskeeps: thanks11:06
dakovacisorry, most of my builds were -no-webkit :D11:06
lpotterdakovaci: I prefer the term "wise"11:06
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StskeepsSkry: what do you use it for, out of curiousity?11:07
lbt:) I've lost some compiler flags down a crack somewhere11:07
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SkryStskeeps: yeah, curiosity and I also kinda want to see something modern on N900, already got the omapdss to work and I'm targeting at wayland, some day.11:08
StskeepsSkry: oh, i have done wayland before11:09
Stskeepson n90011:09
SkryStskeeps: what did you do? :)11:09
StskeepsSkry: http://blip.tv/carsten-munk/wayland-simple-egl-simple-shm-on-top-of-wayland-compositor-on-a-n900-541945911:10
DocScrutinizer05background/context (for your convenience) http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-08.log.html#t2012-09-08T03:25:14  http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-08.log.html#t2012-09-08T04:53:1011:10
SkryStskeeps: I'll check that out. Anyways, I need a recent kernel for my arch linux project, thats one reason too.11:11
StskeepsSkry: wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr as well11:11
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DocScrutinizer05Stskeeps: dakovaci: would you recall details about why SmartReflex been deprecated on N900, and what been the source of this info and details on the case?11:20
StskeepsDocScrutinizer05: i doubt dakovaci has been kernel hacker :)11:21
phaeronlbt: is mic + zypper usable for you ?11:21
dakovaciyeah, sorry, can't help you there, we were doing middleware11:21
lbtlas time I tried11:21
* phaeron wonders why it barfs here11:22
DocScrutinizer05[2012-09-08 13:03:17] <Stskeeps> Skry: basically kjokinie and jnikula is happy to talk about n900/n950/n9 kernels   [2012-09-08 13:03:53] <dakovaci> I am one of them :D11:24
StskeepsDocScrutinizer05: "recent nokia layoffs"11:24
Stskeeps:)11:24
DocScrutinizer05aah11:24
dakovaciwhat Stskeeps said :D11:24
StskeepsSkry: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/N9_Kernel_update_project11:26
Stskeepsas well11:26
Stskeepsi think n900 is also looked sortof into11:26
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* DocScrutinizer05 waves and heads over to cssu, sorting out qt issues :-S11:27
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DocScrutinizer05or wait...11:27
DocScrutinizer05somebody here recalls that "black-text-on-black issue"11:28
DocScrutinizer05?11:28
DocScrutinizer05iirc in context of Qt4.7->Qt4.7.411:28
Stskeepsyou mean the old meego bug that fucked up text, or?11:28
DocScrutinizer05not only meego11:29
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1256169&postcount=28011:29
DocScrutinizer05I've seen that a lot, some 1 or 2 years ago11:30
DocScrutinizer05can't recall deztails11:30
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DocScrutinizer05(note the two black-on-black Qtextedit lines in top of screenshot, left to the delete buttons11:31
DocScrutinizer05)11:31
DocScrutinizer05[2012-09-07 20:15:36] <Earthwings> DocScrutinizer05: the reason could be that we subclass QLineEdit to include the inline clear icon11:32
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Stskeepslbt: any chance of a third worker for CI?11:59
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Stskeeps@$$12:10
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SkryStskeeps: thanks for the links, this qt compositor actually looks like something of interest. So the kernel upgrade project is quite new, is there anyone doing any work regarding N900 on it? I'm not a developer myself so I guess I could just wait and rob the patches :)12:12
StskeepsSkry: yeah, but i think n9 will probably receive msot attention12:12
lbtStskeeps: lessee12:12
Stskeepsjust have a chat with them12:12
Stskeepslbt: ok, i messed up  some prjconf stuff a while back it seems12:12
Stskeepslbt: now fixing12:12
lbtchanging prjconfs?12:13
Stskeepsyes12:13
lbtwe've only done a snapshot12:13
Stskeepshmm?12:13
lbtadd a couple of macros?12:13
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Stskeepsi'd like to get this fixed first12:13
lbtmer version and my_arch12:13
Stskeepsotherwise we'll be hard pressed to meet deadline12:13
lbtjust thinking that if they're changed then we need a full rebuild12:14
lbtalso, I'm getting another worker12:14
SkryStskeeps: I'll do, there is actually almost no problem with the kernel currently if you dont count few missing drivers wich are not of any interest to me personally, the only issue is with power management (I think) and I'm having some trouble understanding few hardware related issues.12:14
faenil_n950kernel upgrade? to which version?12:14
StskeepsSkry: yeah.. we did a fairly good job at upstreaming n900 stuff12:15
phaeronlbt: upgraded the vm and now it won't boot :D12:16
phaerongood thing I had lvm snap12:17
lbt:)12:21
lbtyour VM ?12:21
lbtor on infra12:21
phaeronlbt: imager vm12:21
phaeroninfra12:21
lbtok - yell if you need help12:21
phaeronlong story short because I gtg, I want to switch to zypper for mic to support versioned patterns but zypper is failing12:22
phaeronyum uses groups which don't seem to have versions12:22
Stskeepsphaeron: makes sense12:22
Stskeepsthough i'm unsure how stable zypp backend is12:22
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phaeronStskeeps: that's why I asked lbt if it works and it seems to work for him12:32
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lbtphaeron: ah, you meant the zypper backend to mic12:33
lbtI had some issues with mic and repos and zypper a while back12:34
Stskeepslbt: https://build.ci.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=acl&project=Core%3Aarmv7tnhl&repository=Core_armv7tnhl \o/12:34
phaeronok, miscomm :D12:34
lbtStskeeps: phost10 on the way12:35
Stskeepslbt: ok12:35
Stskeepsis it similar conf as the rest?12:35
Stskeepsor is it a new machine12:35
lbtnew machine12:35
Stskeepsok12:35
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StskeepsSkry: regarding wayland it's a matter of doing the right WSEGL and sharing buffers12:38
StskeepsSkry: i was only able to squeeze out about 37fps composition though, but my setup may likely have been broken12:39
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SkryStskeeps: At least it works, IMO 37fps is somwhat acceptable at this point. What drivers were you using ? I was under impression wayland cant run on fbdev or is there (again) something happening with sgx I dont know about?12:46
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StskeepsSkry: heh :) deep down, wayland is about sharing buffers and ability to use them as textures12:47
Stskeepsgpu buffers, that is12:48
StskeepsSkry: if you can somehow render to a across processes shared gpu buffer.. well12:50
Stskeeps:)12:50
Stskeepsalso flipping those to screen when full screen12:50
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SkryStskeeps: Ok, sounds like you know what you're doing :)12:51
StskeepsSkry: it was a fun project12:53
Stskeepsit's just yet another one of those things i'm not likely to get back to :)12:53
Stskeepsbut if you want to get into it, i can give pointers12:53
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Stskeepslbt: ok, i think we should just let it build now and then cut the umbilical cord when it's built12:58
Stskeepsand hope it stands on it's own12:58
lbtOK12:58
lbtp10 is up but not built yet12:58
Stskeepsok12:58
Stskeepsread: this isn't going to be useful before at least tomorrow morning12:58
Stskeeps:P12:58
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Stskeepsthen we should do a snapshot with the new release12:59
Stskeepsand import it into COBS12:59
lbthmm12:59
lbtwondering about how the schedulers balance with mulitple ports on the same one13:00
Stskeepsnot terribly well13:00
lbtbug?13:00
Stskeepswell, no, just higher load13:00
lbtare they still fair?13:01
SkryStskeeps: ok, I'll ask when the time is right, gotta get the kernel working properly first. I think it should be left to someone who knows what he is doing rather than me but I guess there is pretty little interest in this.13:01
Stskeepsi think so13:01
StskeepsSkry: you won't get proper omap3 wayland anyway, kernel isn't the issue here :)13:01
lbtok then13:01
Stskeepsjust as a note13:03
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SkryStskeeps: yeah I know, however I've been in contact with rob clark (helped me to get omapdrm working) and got this impression that his work with omap4 should work for 3430 too. Anyways I would like to get stable enough kernel first, and then venture to less important things as wayland.13:11
Stskeepsah yeah13:12
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SkryStskeeps: is there a git repository for that zephyr project?13:17
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StskeepsSkry: not yet, it's kind of more effort-ish13:21
Stskeepsand we're shaping up some parts in mer first13:21
lbthttps://build.ci.merproject.org/monitor13:30
Stskeeps good13:32
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Stskeepslbt: ok, i'm seeing problems..14:07
lbt?14:20
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lbtStskeeps: what?14:20
lbtphost10 or armv7nthl ?14:20
Stskeepslbt: armv7tnhl14:21
Stskeepslbt: qemu dies14:21
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Stskeepswhich i'm a bit surprised about14:21
lbtodd - it built the experimental14:21
Stskeepsyes14:21
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Stskeepsand we typoed in the gcc.spec14:22
Stskeeps--mode vs --with-mode14:22
Stskeepsnot your fault, was mine14:22
lbtah14:23
lbt"qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped"14:24
Stskeepsyes14:24
Stskeepswhich isn't good, at all14:24
cos^is it a known issue that OBS sometimes loops qmake step forever when building?14:35
cos^like this https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=ppcards&project=home%3Avranki&repository=Mer_Core_i58614:35
lbtcos^: it's ntp related14:37
cos^lbt: any workarounds?14:38
lbtensure your local clock is correct?14:38
* lbt takes a break ... bbiab14:40
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cos^lbt: my ntp offset was 0.001401 sec, so i don't think that's the problem14:58
cos^but afk.. got the package done14:58
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timophStskeeps & co. so what's you take on the Q&A?16:13
Stskeeps`worked fine16:14
timophgood to hear16:14
Stskeepswas it a good day for you guys?16:15
timophat least I liked it16:15
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timophit seemed that it took a while for people to get how the thing rolled16:15
timophbut in the end seemed to work16:15
Stskeepshopefully we can continue to have a good community feeling with jolla as well16:15
timophyep16:15
Stskeepsand it'll be, if i have anything to do with it16:16
Stskeeps:P16:16
timoph:)16:16
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timophthe stream and irc added nicely to the event16:16
timophmore inclusive thing I'd say16:17
timophwe talked about maybe doing something similar in the future as well16:17
CosmoHillhi16:17
Stskeeps:nod:16:18
timophjust need to get a bit better webcam16:18
* timoph goes to sauna. bbl16:18
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Stskeepsgood afternoon mikhas :)16:22
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mikhasStskeeps, n'Abend16:38
mikhasanyone know decent web-based project management software?16:39
mikhasstuff like "basecamp" looks too …basic16:39
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toninoi mercenari 216:48
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mike7b4_homewhy doesnt this work: sb2 gcc -std=c99 -I$(TARGET_PATH)/usr/include/dbus-1.0 $(CWD)/hwkbdled.c -o hwkbdled   i stand in TAGET_PATH when incvoke the command. But it gives: /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer/usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:29:33: fatal error: dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h: No such file or directory17:45
mike7b4_homecompilation terminated.17:45
mike7b4_home is there a better way doing this?17:45
Stskeepswhat's TARGET_PATH?17:45
mike7b4_home /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer17:45
Stskeepsdon't bother with that17:46
Stskeeps / is == your target root17:46
mike7b4_home?17:47
mike7b4_homeyou mean I shall not provide -I$(TARGET_PATH) ?17:48
Stskeepsie, / inside sb2 is the target root you initialised in17:48
Stskeepsno, $(TARGET_PATH) shouldn't be provided17:48
mike7b4_homewell still  gets above error17:49
mike7b4_homewhen invoke: sb2 gcc -std=c99 -I$/usr/include/dbus-1.0 $(CWD)/hwkbdled.c -o hwkbdled17:50
Stskeepswithout $17:50
mike7b4_homeyes without $ still17:51
Stskeepsshow me output of sb2-init17:51
mike7b4_homeconfigured at 2012-09-02_08:56:09 by user 'tyan', with command17:53
mike7b4_home( cd /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer;17:53
mike7b4_homesb2-init -d -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-core /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc )17:53
Stskeepsfind /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer -name dbus-arch-deps.h17:53
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mike7b4_home woops  I see hmm. looks like I have to provide an extra -I there :/17:55
mike7b4_homeparentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include/dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h17:56
mike7b4_homeStskeeps, tried use pkgconfig --cflags ... firt but didnt work?17:57
Stskeepsshould, but you have to use sb2's pkgconfig17:57
Stskeepsuse sb2 interactively perhaps17:57
mike7b4_homehmm well right now my makefile looks like this: https://git.7b4.se/nemoprojects/hwkbdled/blobs/master/Makefile maybe its ugly way doing it ;)18:00
Stskeepsyes, i'd have to slap you18:01
Stskeeps:P18:01
Stskeepsjust sb2 make, really18:01
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mike7b4_homeStskeeps, yes18:05
* Stskeeps ponders how the devil suddenly qemu can just drop dead18:07
faenilhow the devil? that's new :)18:08
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mike7b4_homeStskeeps, the reason I was doiung that way was because I wanted to stay in  $WORKDIR. the wiki says I had to stay in same dir as TARGET_ROOT or maybe I did misunderstand it?18:12
Stskeepswell, you're not doing it in a very clean way18:12
Stskeeps:P18:12
mike7b4_homestill learning the sb stuff :)18:13
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Bostikhum, ordered 2xRPi today so now it's time to get the rest of the hardware for daughter's computer18:16
Stskeepsyay18:17
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lpottermy kids like to point out that I have 'all these computers' so they should be able to get another one19:13
Stskeepsi can sometimes understand why evil geniuses have hidden away lairs.19:14
Stskeeps:P19:14
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CosmoHillquote19:15
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CosmoHilllpotter: 62.56.58.107/lfs-qdb19:16
lpotterheh19:20
Stskeepsthings you don't want to find out on a saturday evening: that your glibc packaging is actively stripping CFLAGS19:21
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