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| iekku | morning | 04:06 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:05 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 05:07 |
| timoph | o/ | 05:10 |
| iekku | \o | 05:12 |
| Jope | iä iä cthulhu f'tagn | 05:17 |
| * Stskeeps waits for coffee to brew and mer to build | 05:18 | |
| * Jope eats cereal and plots his next move | 05:18 | |
| lpotter | lbt: whats quickbuild? | 05:25 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XQfuVCF1ok4 seems like an interesting online series | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, miniepisodes | 05:35 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: already watched Video Game High School https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JqR3GVqib4 ;) | 06:08 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 06:08 | |
| Stskeeps | does this thing know i'm moving soon.. ikea 2013 catalogue advertisement | 06:09 |
| Sage | iekku: what time will you be at devaamo today? | 06:10 |
| iekku | Sage, about 12:05 | 06:11 |
| Sage | is there some schedule announced somewhere btw? | 06:11 |
| iekku | no | 06:13 |
| iekku | 12 starting, then presentations, then hacking | 06:14 |
| Sage | ok, was planning of being there after 11 myself. | 06:15 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning veskuh :) | 06:19 |
| veskuh | Morning Stskeeps :) | 06:19 |
| iekku | Sage, my bus is at 11:45 in the tre busstation | 06:20 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: care to review my slides for today? Especially feedback on "Contributiong to mer" slide would be appreciated.. | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh, if it's in PDF yes, on the move atm | 06:29 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: its a big 5MB odp. I'll do a pdf on the Mer slide for you, and ask on the #nemomobile comments from others to full doc | 06:31 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45141614/merslide.pdf | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | Contribution_in_detail too | 06:35 |
| veskuh | ok | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | otherwise good | 06:35 |
| veskuh | thanks | 06:36 |
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| faenil | leaving, cya there people! :) | 07:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ping when awake | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | http://devaamo.fi:8000/stream1.ogv livestream from mer/nemo/jolla hackday | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: stream broken? | 09:10 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: I'll start in about 5 mins or so | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | no worries, i'm home now | 09:13 |
| timoph | the presentation shouldn't take longer than 10 mins | 09:13 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: had to restart | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | did all my chores so | 09:13 |
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| timoph | I'll find someone to type in the questions to irc | 09:14 |
| * timoph looks at dm8tbr | 09:14 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: pong | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so i decided to save us both some time and Core:armv7tnhl is set up | 09:14 |
| lbt | awake but coffeeless :) | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | will start full build in ~20 min | 09:14 |
| lbt | OK | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | it's better to be early than late with this stuff, so | 09:15 |
| dm8tbr | timoph: ? | 09:15 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: so what steps were left? | 09:16 |
| lbt | /home/prjfetcher-mertools/release-tools/obs-projects/Core/armv7tnhl: | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: sb2-tools-template wasn't submited | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | and binutils didn't include new .specs | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | and something in packages.xml.. | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | er, .in | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | either way, it's on track now | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | currently building the cross compiler | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr / timoph: how many have shown up? | 09:17 |
| lbt | are they in gerrit | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yes | 09:18 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: pretty much a full house | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: good | 09:18 |
| dm8tbr | I'll do a sneaky stream of the audience ;) | 09:18 |
| timoph | :D | 09:18 |
| dm8tbr | btw: how's the stream audio? | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | pretty good | 09:20 |
| lpotter | sounds good hear, kind of distorts on loud parts | 09:21 |
| lpotter | here, not hear.. heh | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | i spot an iekku | 09:21 |
| matrixx | :) | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | is somebody having xrandr issues? | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:22 |
| jusa_ | quite unlikely... | 09:23 |
| matrixx | \o/ | 09:23 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, my voice or my hair? | 09:24 |
| * lbt has audio only :/ | 09:24 | |
| lbt | (mplayer) | 09:25 |
| dm8tbr | works for me in vlc and firefox | 09:25 |
| dm8tbr | mplayer has problems with the partial frames it gets | 09:25 |
| lbt | vlc ++ | 09:25 |
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| Stskeeps | 'when meego went south', heh :) | 09:26 |
| dm8tbr | sort of a icecast bug | 09:26 |
| dm8tbr | as we should send proper frame first | 09:27 |
| lpotter | works good in chrome | 09:27 |
| dm8tbr | http://devaamo.fi:8000/stream2.ogv - audience ;) | 09:29 |
| lbt | ouch | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | ouchwhat? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:32 |
| dm8tbr | tsk only 2 viewers... prolly carsten and lorn | 09:32 |
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| Stskeeps | on the stream1 or stream2? | 09:32 |
| dm8tbr | ah, wrong 17 | 09:33 |
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| * dm8tbr checked the backend server by mistake :D | 09:33 | |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:33 |
| dm8tbr | I stopped stream2 anyway | 09:33 |
| lbt | I noticed :) | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:34 |
| matrixx | :D | 09:34 |
| dm8tbr | ok QA coming up! | 09:35 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 09:35 |
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| dm8tbr | stream has prolly 30+s lag | 09:36 |
| dm8tbr | so beware | 09:36 |
| timoph | questions are go | 09:36 |
| lbt | o/ | 09:36 |
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| matrixx | timoph: your slide says @ #mer-meeting | 09:36 |
| matrixx | so which one is it? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | #mer-meeting | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:37 |
| matrixx | ok :) | 09:37 |
| * matrixx haz too many windows too | 09:38 | |
| iekku | 82 currently | 09:38 |
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| Andy80 | hi guys :) | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | heya | 09:39 |
| matrixx | hi | 09:40 |
| iekku | hello | 09:40 |
| Andy80 | I'm following the streaming ;) is this the proper channel for the JollaHackDay or there is another one? | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | #mer-meeting | 09:42 |
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| Andy80 | Stskeeps: thanks :) | 09:43 |
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| Sage | dm8tbr: what is the delay in the webcam btw. Have exact number? | 09:48 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: depends on viewer side buffering | 09:49 |
| dm8tbr | I'd expect >10s | 09:49 |
| dm8tbr | I have a low latency stream for QA available on request | 09:50 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: the contrast is quite bad on stefanos slides | 09:51 |
| Sage | One can't really see the text | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | yes, sorry... | 09:51 |
| Sage | not sure if there is anything one could do about that | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | I don't expect the slides to be very readable in general | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | if they are: lucky viewers | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | it's more about the people and interaction anyway | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | getting people together | 09:52 |
| timoph | yeah | 09:52 |
| dm8tbr | (need to get a better webcam for the future...) | 09:53 |
| dm8tbr | something 720p-ish | 09:54 |
| timoph | maybe devaamo can buy one of those | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | it's better than telcos i've been in recently.. | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | in terms in audio etc.. | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:54 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, :D | 09:55 |
| dm8tbr | ROFL, it's a tinsy mic in the webcam.... | 09:55 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i am almost scared how good it is | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:55 |
| * lbt suspects the software helps | 09:55 | |
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| Venemo | hey | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | heya Venemo | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | was good seeing you in katowice | 09:56 |
| Venemo | thanks :) it was nice seeing you too Stskeeps :) | 09:57 |
| Venemo | so you're having this jolla hack day now? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | not there yet | 09:57 |
| Venemo | it's a pity I couldn't attend | 09:57 |
| dm8tbr | btw: the streaming 'setup' is visible on stream2 ;) | 09:57 |
| dm8tbr | and timoph when he leans back... | 09:57 |
| Venemo | dm8tbr: where? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://devaamo.fi:8000/stream2.ogv | 09:57 |
| dm8tbr | http://devaamo.fi:8000/stream1.ogv | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | err.. yeah | 09:58 |
| dm8tbr | stream1 is official | 09:58 |
| dm8tbr | stream2 is me having random fun | 09:58 |
| Venemo | dm8tbr: would be nice if I could actually see the presenter on the stream | 09:59 |
| Venemo | dm8tbr: right now I only see some of the audience | 09:59 |
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| Venemo | I can also see timoph there | 10:00 |
| lbt | Venemo: stream 1 | 10:00 |
| faenil | hey Venemo | 10:00 |
| Venemo | hey faenil :) | 10:00 |
| dm8tbr | Venemo: stream1 | 10:01 |
| Venemo | dm8tbr: thx | 10:01 |
| Venemo | oooh, lots of Mer t-shirts there | 10:01 |
| Venemo | faenil: how's the event? | 10:02 |
| faenil | great :> | 10:03 |
| Venemo | sorry I couldn't go | 10:03 |
| faenil | yeah it's a pity | 10:03 |
| faenil | np ;) | 10:03 |
| Venemo | perhaps next time, jolla could finance the flight for community devs :P | 10:04 |
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| faenil_n950 | ahaah hope so :) | 10:04 |
| Venemo | hm, I thought 'jolla' was going to be pronounced with the Finnish 'j' | 10:04 |
| faenil_n950 | cant sell another tablet to attend the next event ;D | 10:04 |
| iekku | Venemo, somehow it turned with not finnish | 10:05 |
| faenil_n950 | Venemo I think everyone thought so | 10:05 |
| Venemo | iekku: go there and slap the presenter | 10:05 |
| iekku | Venemo, nooo, i will do that later when real need to do so | 10:06 |
| iekku | :P | 10:06 |
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| Venemo | ok | 10:07 |
| Venemo | at least slap the stupid guy with the qt 5 question | 10:07 |
| iekku | hehe | 10:08 |
| lpotter | some other company already tried that. lesson learned. | 10:09 |
| lpotter | (qt5) | 10:09 |
| Venemo | hehe | 10:09 |
| iekku | Venemo, he said his working with it | 10:10 |
| Venemo | which channel are they taking the irc questions from? | 10:10 |
| lbt | #mer-meeting | 10:10 |
| Venemo | can I just ask a question? | 10:11 |
| iekku | yes | 10:11 |
| Venemo | and they will answer it in the live event? | 10:11 |
| faenil_n950 | yes | 10:11 |
| Venemo | awesome | 10:12 |
| iekku | Venemo, isn't it? | 10:12 |
| Venemo | iekku :) | 10:12 |
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| * Stskeeps changes to stream2 | 10:33 | |
| totte | Wait, what's this event? | 10:34 |
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| Stskeeps | totte: devaamo hackday with mer/nemo/jolla in tampere | 10:35 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, we actually get out in this OSS project too | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:35 |
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| totte | Ohh nice! I wish I had known and could attend. I never pay events much attention since they often seem to be held in the US. | 10:42 |
| lpotter | what is that place? I have seen it before | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | lpotter: new factory in tampere | 10:44 |
| * w00t likes it there | 10:45 | |
| lbt | totte: most events relevant to Mer are european | 10:45 |
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| * w00t votes Sleepy_Coder to start some US events | 10:47 | |
| w00t | :P | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | for aussie | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | er, aussie | 10:47 |
| Sleepy_Coder | harblah | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, explained quickbuild yet? | 10:48 |
| lbt | osc build -o --rebuild --rsync-src=qtwebkit-2.2.1-source --rsync-dest=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qtwebkit-2.2.1-source Core_armv7hl armv8el | 10:49 |
| * lbt takes the Stskeeps approach to docs ^^ | 10:49 | |
| Sleepy_Coder | oh tampere is in finland, imagine that | 10:49 |
| lbt | hey Sleepy_Coder | 10:49 |
| Sleepy_Coder | hola :-) | 10:50 |
| Sleepy_Coder | How are you? | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi everybody | 10:50 |
| Sleepy_Coder | gowai we're doing science! | 10:50 |
| lbt | Sleepy_Coder: doing well :) | 10:50 |
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| lbt | Sleepy_Coder: in the US ... surely you jest! | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm trying mer on a Lenovo X200 (no touch screen). Does nemo provides a package to display the mouse ? | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks in advance :) | 10:50 |
| Sleepy_Coder | I don't know what to say to that... I would joke but the US is getting to the point where all jokes run rancid :< | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: you can change that in /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch | 10:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | k | 10:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because in plasma active itwas possible | 10:51 |
| Sleepy_Coder | lbt: do you guys watch our conventions? The Republican and Democratic conventions? | 10:51 |
| Sleepy_Coder | (just curious) | 10:51 |
| lbt | Sleepy_Coder: *g* well, I'm scheduled to do the next lua project soon | 10:51 |
| lbt | no, not really | 10:51 |
| Sleepy_Coder | orly ;D | 10:51 |
| Sleepy_Coder | what does the next lua project entail? | 10:52 |
| Sleepy_Coder | :} | 10:52 |
| lbt | more macros in spec files | 10:52 |
| Sleepy_Coder | I've always had an unnatural afflicting addiction for macros in various languages.. | 10:52 |
| lpotter | orientation needs work | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's oversensitive atm | 10:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is jhnikula here? | 10:54 |
| Sleepy_Coder | oversensitive? :o | 10:54 |
| lbt | tends to switch orientation too easily | 10:54 |
| lbt | we're watching a video stream of his presentation on #mer-meeting | 10:55 |
| dakovaci | watching as well, Hi all :D | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | o/ dakovaci | 10:55 |
| dakovaci | missed it live, but love the catchup :D | 10:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-08 12:39:31] <Skry> jhnikula@gmail.com: voltage.c: OMAP4430_VDD_CORE_OPPx's in | 10:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-08 12:39:31] <Skry> omap34xx_vdd1_vdd2_data replaced with OMAP3430_VDD_CORE_OPP3_UV. First | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer05: what do you need him for? | 10:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to shed some more light on those notes | 10:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly >>... and since the DSS don't work if core voltage is scaled.] | 10:57 |
| Sleepy_Coder | oic | 10:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | skry struggling with freq-scaling/SR in kernel-3.6 for RX-51 | 10:59 |
| dakovaci | hehehe, the dreaded "We look forward to your patch " :D | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer05: i'll ping them on monday, they're not around today i think | 11:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks a lot, I'll ry to get skry here so get rid of parrot role | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 11:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: <Stskeeps> DocScrutinizer05: i'll ping them on monday, they're not around today i think | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: basically kjokinie and jnikula is happy to talk about n900/n950/n9 kernels | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | the latest nokia layoffs meant there's suddenly capable people around ;) | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | but not sure if they're online atm | 11:03 |
| dakovaci | I am one of them :D | 11:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey!! ;-D | 11:03 |
| dakovaci | so, yes, we are :D | 11:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | new aspect on the nasty layoffs | 11:04 |
| lbt | dakovaci: you're in the right place then :) | 11:04 |
| dakovaci | by choice, I assure you | 11:04 |
| lbt | Qt guy? | 11:04 |
| dakovaci | yeah, Brisbane office | 11:04 |
| lbt | saw the .au :) | 11:05 |
| dakovaci | I know a couple more that are watching the broadcast now | 11:05 |
| dakovaci | an old Troll | 11:05 |
| lbt | #mer-meeting is the irc chat for the streaming | 11:05 |
| dakovaci | thx | 11:05 |
| * lpotter wonders who is old | 11:06 | |
| dakovaci | yeah, I am glad that you recognised yourself lpotter | 11:06 |
| lbt | dakovaci: don't suppose you know about qtwebkit build system? | 11:06 |
| Skry | Stskeeps: thanks | 11:06 |
| dakovaci | sorry, most of my builds were -no-webkit :D | 11:06 |
| lpotter | dakovaci: I prefer the term "wise" | 11:06 |
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| Stskeeps | Skry: what do you use it for, out of curiousity? | 11:07 |
| lbt | :) I've lost some compiler flags down a crack somewhere | 11:07 |
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| Skry | Stskeeps: yeah, curiosity and I also kinda want to see something modern on N900, already got the omapdss to work and I'm targeting at wayland, some day. | 11:08 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: oh, i have done wayland before | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | on n900 | 11:09 |
| Skry | Stskeeps: what did you do? :) | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: http://blip.tv/carsten-munk/wayland-simple-egl-simple-shm-on-top-of-wayland-compositor-on-a-n900-5419459 | 11:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | background/context (for your convenience) http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-08.log.html#t2012-09-08T03:25:14 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-08.log.html#t2012-09-08T04:53:10 | 11:10 |
| Skry | Stskeeps: I'll check that out. Anyways, I need a recent kernel for my arch linux project, thats one reason too. | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr as well | 11:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Stskeeps: dakovaci: would you recall details about why SmartReflex been deprecated on N900, and what been the source of this info and details on the case? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer05: i doubt dakovaci has been kernel hacker :) | 11:21 |
| phaeron | lbt: is mic + zypper usable for you ? | 11:21 |
| dakovaci | yeah, sorry, can't help you there, we were doing middleware | 11:21 |
| lbt | las time I tried | 11:21 |
| * phaeron wonders why it barfs here | 11:22 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-08 13:03:17] <Stskeeps> Skry: basically kjokinie and jnikula is happy to talk about n900/n950/n9 kernels [2012-09-08 13:03:53] <dakovaci> I am one of them :D | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer05: "recent nokia layoffs" | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah | 11:24 |
| dakovaci | what Stskeeps said :D | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/N9_Kernel_update_project | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | as well | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | i think n900 is also looked sortof into | 11:26 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 waves and heads over to cssu, sorting out qt issues :-S | 11:27 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or wait... | 11:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | somebody here recalls that "black-text-on-black issue" | 11:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 11:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc in context of Qt4.7->Qt4.7.4 | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | you mean the old meego bug that fucked up text, or? | 11:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not only meego | 11:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1256169&postcount=280 | 11:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I've seen that a lot, some 1 or 2 years ago | 11:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can't recall deztails | 11:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (note the two black-on-black Qtextedit lines in top of screenshot, left to the delete buttons | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ) | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-07 20:15:36] <Earthwings> DocScrutinizer05: the reason could be that we subclass QLineEdit to include the inline clear icon | 11:32 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: any chance of a third worker for CI? | 11:59 |
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| Stskeeps | @$$ | 12:10 |
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| Skry | Stskeeps: thanks for the links, this qt compositor actually looks like something of interest. So the kernel upgrade project is quite new, is there anyone doing any work regarding N900 on it? I'm not a developer myself so I guess I could just wait and rob the patches :) | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: yeah, but i think n9 will probably receive msot attention | 12:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: lessee | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | just have a chat with them | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, i messed up some prjconf stuff a while back it seems | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: now fixing | 12:12 |
| lbt | changing prjconfs? | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:13 |
| lbt | we've only done a snapshot | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 12:13 |
| lbt | add a couple of macros? | 12:13 |
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| Stskeeps | i'd like to get this fixed first | 12:13 |
| lbt | mer version and my_arch | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | otherwise we'll be hard pressed to meet deadline | 12:13 |
| lbt | just thinking that if they're changed then we need a full rebuild | 12:14 |
| lbt | also, I'm getting another worker | 12:14 |
| Skry | Stskeeps: I'll do, there is actually almost no problem with the kernel currently if you dont count few missing drivers wich are not of any interest to me personally, the only issue is with power management (I think) and I'm having some trouble understanding few hardware related issues. | 12:14 |
| faenil_n950 | kernel upgrade? to which version? | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: yeah.. we did a fairly good job at upstreaming n900 stuff | 12:15 |
| phaeron | lbt: upgraded the vm and now it won't boot :D | 12:16 |
| phaeron | good thing I had lvm snap | 12:17 |
| lbt | :) | 12:21 |
| lbt | your VM ? | 12:21 |
| lbt | or on infra | 12:21 |
| phaeron | lbt: imager vm | 12:21 |
| phaeron | infra | 12:21 |
| lbt | ok - yell if you need help | 12:21 |
| phaeron | long story short because I gtg, I want to switch to zypper for mic to support versioned patterns but zypper is failing | 12:22 |
| phaeron | yum uses groups which don't seem to have versions | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: makes sense | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | though i'm unsure how stable zypp backend is | 12:22 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: that's why I asked lbt if it works and it seems to work for him | 12:32 |
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| lbt | phaeron: ah, you meant the zypper backend to mic | 12:33 |
| lbt | I had some issues with mic and repos and zypper a while back | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: https://build.ci.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=acl&project=Core%3Aarmv7tnhl&repository=Core_armv7tnhl \o/ | 12:34 |
| phaeron | ok, miscomm :D | 12:34 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phost10 on the way | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | is it similar conf as the rest? | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | or is it a new machine | 12:35 |
| lbt | new machine | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Skry: regarding wayland it's a matter of doing the right WSEGL and sharing buffers | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: i was only able to squeeze out about 37fps composition though, but my setup may likely have been broken | 12:39 |
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| Skry | Stskeeps: At least it works, IMO 37fps is somwhat acceptable at this point. What drivers were you using ? I was under impression wayland cant run on fbdev or is there (again) something happening with sgx I dont know about? | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | Skry: heh :) deep down, wayland is about sharing buffers and ability to use them as textures | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | gpu buffers, that is | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: if you can somehow render to a across processes shared gpu buffer.. well | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | also flipping those to screen when full screen | 12:50 |
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| Skry | Stskeeps: Ok, sounds like you know what you're doing :) | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: it was a fun project | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | it's just yet another one of those things i'm not likely to get back to :) | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | but if you want to get into it, i can give pointers | 12:53 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, i think we should just let it build now and then cut the umbilical cord when it's built | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | and hope it stands on it's own | 12:58 |
| lbt | OK | 12:58 |
| lbt | p10 is up but not built yet | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | read: this isn't going to be useful before at least tomorrow morning | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:58 |
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| Stskeeps | then we should do a snapshot with the new release | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | and import it into COBS | 12:59 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:59 |
| lbt | wondering about how the schedulers balance with mulitple ports on the same one | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | not terribly well | 13:00 |
| lbt | bug? | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | well, no, just higher load | 13:00 |
| lbt | are they still fair? | 13:01 |
| Skry | Stskeeps: ok, I'll ask when the time is right, gotta get the kernel working properly first. I think it should be left to someone who knows what he is doing rather than me but I guess there is pretty little interest in this. | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | i think so | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | Skry: you won't get proper omap3 wayland anyway, kernel isn't the issue here :) | 13:01 |
| lbt | ok then | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | just as a note | 13:03 |
| * Stskeeps learned about sb2install: !package | 13:05 | |
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| Skry | Stskeeps: yeah I know, however I've been in contact with rob clark (helped me to get omapdrm working) and got this impression that his work with omap4 should work for 3430 too. Anyways I would like to get stable enough kernel first, and then venture to less important things as wayland. | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | ah yeah | 13:12 |
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| Skry | Stskeeps: is there a git repository for that zephyr project? | 13:17 |
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| Stskeeps | Skry: not yet, it's kind of more effort-ish | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | and we're shaping up some parts in mer first | 13:21 |
| lbt | https://build.ci.merproject.org/monitor | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | good | 13:32 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, i'm seeing problems.. | 14:07 |
| lbt | ? | 14:20 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: what? | 14:20 |
| lbt | phost10 or armv7nthl ? | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: armv7tnhl | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: qemu dies | 14:21 |
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| Stskeeps | which i'm a bit surprised about | 14:21 |
| lbt | odd - it built the experimental | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:21 |
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| Stskeeps | and we typoed in the gcc.spec | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | --mode vs --with-mode | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | not your fault, was mine | 14:22 |
| lbt | ah | 14:23 |
| lbt | "qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped" | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | which isn't good, at all | 14:24 |
| cos^ | is it a known issue that OBS sometimes loops qmake step forever when building? | 14:35 |
| cos^ | like this https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=ppcards&project=home%3Avranki&repository=Mer_Core_i586 | 14:35 |
| lbt | cos^: it's ntp related | 14:37 |
| cos^ | lbt: any workarounds? | 14:38 |
| lbt | ensure your local clock is correct? | 14:38 |
| * lbt takes a break ... bbiab | 14:40 | |
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| cos^ | lbt: my ntp offset was 0.001401 sec, so i don't think that's the problem | 14:58 |
| cos^ | but afk.. got the package done | 14:58 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps & co. so what's you take on the Q&A? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | `worked fine | 16:14 |
| timoph | good to hear | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | was it a good day for you guys? | 16:15 |
| timoph | at least I liked it | 16:15 |
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| timoph | it seemed that it took a while for people to get how the thing rolled | 16:15 |
| timoph | but in the end seemed to work | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully we can continue to have a good community feeling with jolla as well | 16:15 |
| timoph | yep | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | and it'll be, if i have anything to do with it | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:16 |
| timoph | :) | 16:16 |
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| timoph | the stream and irc added nicely to the event | 16:16 |
| timoph | more inclusive thing I'd say | 16:17 |
| timoph | we talked about maybe doing something similar in the future as well | 16:17 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:18 |
| timoph | just need to get a bit better webcam | 16:18 |
| * timoph goes to sauna. bbl | 16:18 | |
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| Stskeeps | good afternoon mikhas :) | 16:22 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, n'Abend | 16:38 |
| mikhas | anyone know decent web-based project management software? | 16:39 |
| mikhas | stuff like "basecamp" looks too …basic | 16:39 |
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| tonino | i mercenari 2 | 16:48 |
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| mike7b4_home | why doesnt this work: sb2 gcc -std=c99 -I$(TARGET_PATH)/usr/include/dbus-1.0 $(CWD)/hwkbdled.c -o hwkbdled i stand in TAGET_PATH when incvoke the command. But it gives: /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer/usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:29:33: fatal error: dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h: No such file or directory | 17:45 |
| mike7b4_home | compilation terminated. | 17:45 |
| mike7b4_home | is there a better way doing this? | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | what's TARGET_PATH? | 17:45 |
| mike7b4_home | /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | don't bother with that | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | / is == your target root | 17:46 |
| mike7b4_home | ? | 17:47 |
| mike7b4_home | you mean I shall not provide -I$(TARGET_PATH) ? | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | ie, / inside sb2 is the target root you initialised in | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | no, $(TARGET_PATH) shouldn't be provided | 17:48 |
| mike7b4_home | well still gets above error | 17:49 |
| mike7b4_home | when invoke: sb2 gcc -std=c99 -I$/usr/include/dbus-1.0 $(CWD)/hwkbdled.c -o hwkbdled | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | without $ | 17:50 |
| mike7b4_home | yes without $ still | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | show me output of sb2-init | 17:51 |
| mike7b4_home | configured at 2012-09-02_08:56:09 by user 'tyan', with command | 17:53 |
| mike7b4_home | ( cd /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer; | 17:53 |
| mike7b4_home | sb2-init -d -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-core /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc ) | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | find /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer -name dbus-arch-deps.h | 17:53 |
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| mike7b4_home | woops I see hmm. looks like I have to provide an extra -I there :/ | 17:55 |
| mike7b4_home | parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include/dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h | 17:56 |
| mike7b4_home | Stskeeps, tried use pkgconfig --cflags ... firt but didnt work? | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | should, but you have to use sb2's pkgconfig | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | use sb2 interactively perhaps | 17:57 |
| mike7b4_home | hmm well right now my makefile looks like this: https://git.7b4.se/nemoprojects/hwkbdled/blobs/master/Makefile maybe its ugly way doing it ;) | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i'd have to slap you | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | just sb2 make, really | 18:01 |
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| mike7b4_home | Stskeeps, yes | 18:05 |
| * Stskeeps ponders how the devil suddenly qemu can just drop dead | 18:07 | |
| faenil | how the devil? that's new :) | 18:08 |
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| mike7b4_home | Stskeeps, the reason I was doiung that way was because I wanted to stay in $WORKDIR. the wiki says I had to stay in same dir as TARGET_ROOT or maybe I did misunderstand it? | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | well, you're not doing it in a very clean way | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:12 |
| mike7b4_home | still learning the sb stuff :) | 18:13 |
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| Bostik | hum, ordered 2xRPi today so now it's time to get the rest of the hardware for daughter's computer | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | yay | 18:17 |
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| lpotter | my kids like to point out that I have 'all these computers' so they should be able to get another one | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | i can sometimes understand why evil geniuses have hidden away lairs. | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:14 |
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| CosmoHill | quote | 19:15 |
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| CosmoHill | lpotter: 62.56.58.107/lfs-qdb | 19:16 |
| lpotter | heh | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | things you don't want to find out on a saturday evening: that your glibc packaging is actively stripping CFLAGS | 19:21 |
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