Friday, 2012-09-07

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timophmorning04:13
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iekkumorning04:35
Stskeeps"Currently security concerns, that key logger or something can04:42
Stskeepsbe maliciously developed and distributed, make us hesitate04:42
Stskeepsto provide input method APIs.04:42
Stskeeps"04:42
Stskeepsoh tizen04:42
wmaronewow04:43
Stskeeps"If comprehensive number of developers are interested in developing04:43
Stskeepscommercial custom input method, then I can input those requirements04:43
Stskeepsto internal platform developers."04:43
Stskeeps..04:43
Stskeepsif i was a vendor i'd run away screaming by now04:43
wmaronewhy are they even trying to be an open source project?04:44
dm8tbrbecause some consultant said that it's the latest craze and has unnamed benefits04:45
* Stskeeps sighs and hugs maliit04:45
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wmaroneyup04:46
wmarone"secret APIs in open source projects! It's latest thing!"04:46
* timoph stopped caring about tizen quite some time ago04:48
timophthey just seem to be climbing to a tree ass first04:48
Stskeepswell, tizen ivi i can respect, but the samsung contributions/parts are just ..04:49
wmaroneStskeeps: where'd you see that mess at?04:49
Stskeepswmarone: tizen application dev mailing list04:49
* ljp never cared for Tizen04:49
wmaroneah, apparently I'm not on that one04:49
timophdoes anyone know a better translation for the finnish expession "perse edellä puuhun"04:49
wmaroneljp: I had hope, then samsung/intel did a marvelous job at making me not care04:49
* Stskeeps grabs coffee04:50
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* iekku stopped after "invite only" part in the their wiki04:53
dm8tbrtimoph: you might be thinking of a saying like 'put the cart before the (donkey|horse)'04:56
timophdm8tbr: sounds like something with a similar meaning04:57
iekkudm8tbr, but that's more polite way to say...04:57
timoph:)04:57
* timoph dives into lwn's weekly edition04:58
* iekku ponders to translate that in finnish and start using it daily04:59
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wmaronehuh05:10
wmaroneit's worse, all the samsung posters are using outlook and as a result the mailing list is eating their messages05:10
wmaroneat least in the archive05:10
Stskeepsheh05:12
Stskeepsconsier it encryption so people can't see it after the fact ;p05:12
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wmaroneor is it outlook, might be some samsung-made disaster05:13
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dm8tbrwmarone: maybe their egress email gets the x-no-archive header set or something like that? (which then I'd not attribute to malice but general security paranoia not specifically targetted at mailing lists)06:04
dm8tbrsomeone subscribed to the list should check the headers :)06:05
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situMorning everyone06:07
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Stskeepscat_x301: / cat_n9: ping06:36
cat_x301Stskeeps: pong06:36
Stskeepscat_x301: can you walk me through how you set up the sb2 target?06:36
cat_x301Stskeeps: took shortcut from mer wiki :)06:37
Stskeepscat_x301: alright, could you run 'sb2-init' for me and tell me the output?06:37
cat_x301Stskeeps: any parameters to pass?06:38
Stskeepscat_x301: no, it'll tell me set up targets06:38
cat_x301ok, you are probably interesting in this part:06:38
cat_x301Already initialized targets:06:38
cat_x301Target harmattan-current-dev_armel:06:38
cat_x301(out of order - target root directory does not exist)06:38
cat_x301Target harmattan-current-dev_i386:06:38
cat_x301(out of order - target root directory does not exist)06:38
cat_x301Target nemo-mk802:06:38
cat_x301configured at 2012-08-24_19:18:33 by user 'cat', with command06:38
cat_x301( cd /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mk802rootfs;06:38
cat_x301sb2-init -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / nemo-mk802 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc )06:38
Stskeepsyes06:39
Stskeepsthat looks correct06:39
Stskeepsand you're on a 64-bit linux?06:39
cat_x301Stskeeps: hmm, but should it sound like harmattan-current-dev_x86_64?06:39
cat_x301Stskeeps: yes, gentoo one06:39
* cat_x301 is receiving SIGWIFE..06:40
Stskeepscat_x301: prefix with 'linux32' maybe06:40
Stskeepsdoes it change?06:40
cat_x301Stskeeps: where to put this prefix?06:40
Stskeepsbefore sb206:40
cat_x301no luck: comman not found06:41
cat_x301Stskeeps: sorry, really have to response on wife's signal :)06:41
Stskeepsalright06:42
Stskeepsseeya later06:42
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lbtmorning all07:14
Stskeepsmorn lbt07:15
* lbt crunches knuckles07:15
Bostikmorning indeed07:15
Bostiklbt: did it work?07:15
lbtnop07:16
lbtsry07:16
Bostikdang07:16
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* lbt is motivated to prod it again07:22
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lbtBostik: at the point I'm doing the contains() I added a message:07:26
lbtmessage("CXXFLAGS: " $${CXXFLAGS})07:26
lbtand get07:26
Bostiknothing?07:26
lbtProject MESSAGE: CXXFLAGS:07:26
Bostikexactly07:26
lbtwhich....07:26
Bostikuse QMAKE_CXXFLAGS07:26
lbtoh balls07:27
Bostikthat's the qmake internal variable which will be turned into Makefile::CXXFLAGS07:27
lbtwood/trees07:27
lbtwell... Stskeeps will be pleased that I just saw WebCore.pro reprocessed already07:28
lbtProject MESSAGE: CXXFLAGS_NOTHUMB:  -pipe -Wall -Wextra -Wreturn-type -fno-strict-aliasing -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wformat-security -Wreturn-type -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wundef -Wmissing-noreturn -Winit-self -Wno-c++0x-compat -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections07:28
Bostikhmh, that should have "-marm" after the mangling, this is not good07:29
Bostikmeans that the -mthumb comes from someplace else07:29
lbtyeah07:29
Bostikyourgh...07:30
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Bostiklbt: you're going to hate me, but we need to dive into platform qmake.conf files... inside the build chroot: fgrep -r mthumb /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs | grep -v symbian  and hope that something shows up07:35
lbtnop07:39
Bostikcrap++07:40
lbthttp://pastie.org/467850607:40
mikhasis that a new language, Bostik?07:40
Stskeepsyou'll prolly kill me but it's not in mkspecs07:40
Stskeepsit's in rpm macros..07:40
StskeepsAFAIK07:40
lbt /target/usr/lib/rpm/meego/rpmrc:optflags: armv7tnhl %{__global_cflags}  -fmessage-length=0 -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -mthumb07:41
Stskeepsnah, not that one07:41
Stskeeps /target/etc07:41
lbtfgrep -r mthumb /target/etc/rpm is empty07:42
Stskeepshmm07:42
* lbt really must make coffee :)07:43
Stskeepsdo you have one that simply removes 'mthumb' yet?07:44
BostikStskeeps: my patch was supposed to do that, but apparently it pokes wrong qmake variable07:45
Bostikwell... change from mthumb but still07:45
Bostikthis looks like the arch-specific build flags come from some other variable07:46
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Bostikhmm... dump all qmake CXX* variables as debug...?07:46
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Bostikactually that rpmrc-match makes sense now that I think about it07:51
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Bostikjust a minute, this needs some proofing07:51
lbtStskeeps: meanwhile ... cross-compiler side07:56
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lbtOK, that all looks good now - I guess cross-template-sysroot is superfluous07:58
Stskeepsyes07:59
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lbtso, what else needs doing there?08:00
Stskeepscan i see gerrit patches to cross-template-sysroot08:01
lbt? you mean to make cross-armv7tnhl-sysroot  ?08:02
Stskeepsyeah08:02
* lbt ponders that having branches off a cross-sysroot package at the git level may make sense08:10
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lbtStskeeps: https://gist.github.com/366434008:28
BostikI'm getting fairly confident that the odd build flags are passed from rpmbuild in the process $ENV08:30
lbtOK08:31
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zuhStskeeps: Sage: For fun, tried to replace the ld link with the real ld version from Ubuntu. Same behaviour, crash in the same place without LD_PRELOAD and works with LD_PRELOADing libc08:52
Stskeepszuh: oh, that's interesting08:53
zuhs,version,binary,08:53
Stskeepshow about ld and libc?08:53
zuhI'll try that next08:53
Stskeepsand libpthread08:53
Stskeepsi've seen examples of _thread being optimized out08:54
zuhThe version of the ubuntu (linaro?) EGLIBC is the same 2.15 but there's -0ubuntu10 suffix08:54
zuhNot sure if that means it has been patched or not08:54
Stskeeps:nod:08:55
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Sagezuh: ah, thanks for the help finding out the issue.08:58
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Bostiklbt: I'm pretty sure that the first lines in rpmbuild's %build section set C{XX,}FLAGS so that -mthumb comes from there09:07
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lbtQMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE ?09:11
lbtProject MESSAGE: CXXFLAGS_NOTHUMB:  -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -fmessage-length=0 -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -marm09:13
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Bostikhello! it has changed from mthumb to marm09:16
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lbt...09:16
Bostik -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon ___ -marm ___09:17
Bostikso the original CXXFLAGS sported -mthumb in that spot, and the mangled version replaced it09:17
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Bostikthat should in fact produce a nice non-thumb object file from the single input file and include it in the linkable objects09:20
lbtright - but of course it's not enough to rebuild the .o files for the SOURCES09:22
lbttouch <blah> ... osc build... lets see09:23
Bostikif you looked at my qthack, it doesn't need to - SOURCES is apparently an intermediate list of input files, and the produced object files are all stored in a preset location, which is then globbed for linkage09:24
Bostikbecause my hack does NOT touch any object list, it simply outputs the file to a known object-file location09:24
lbtI'm doing a rebuild - so the .o files exist from a previous -mthumb run of make09:26
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Bostikunroll.output in qthack is a 1:1 match to nothumb.output09:26
Bostikah, that might be it09:26
Bostikjust rm *NEON.o ?09:26
lbtg++ -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -fmessage-length=0 -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -marm -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4 -I/usr/include/QtSensors -I/usr/include/QtSystemInfo -I/usr/include/QtLocation -I../JavaScriptCore -I../../09:26
lbtqtwebkit-2.2.1-source -I../ThirdParty -I../JavaScriptCore/assembler -I../JavaScriptCore/bytecode -I../JavaScriptCore/bytecompiler -I../JavaScriptCore/heap -I../JavaScriptCore/dfg -I../JavaScriptCore/debugger -I../JavaScriptCore/interpreter -I../JavaScriptCore/jit -I../JavaScriptCore/parser -I../JavaScriptCore/profiler -I../JavaScriptCore/runtime -I../JavaScriptCore/wtf -I../JavaScriptCore/wtf/gobject -I/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qtwebkit-2.2.1-09:26
lbtsource/JavaScriptCore/wtf/symbian -I../JavaScriptCore/wtf/unicode -I../JavaScriptCore/yarr -I../JavaScriptCore/API -I../JavaScriptCore/ForwardingHeaders -I../JavaScriptCore/generated -Ibridge/qt -Ipage/qt -Iplatform/graphics/qt -Iplatform/network/qt -Iplatform/qt -I../WebKit/qt/Api -I../WebKit/qt/WebCoreSupport -I. -Iaccessibility -Ibindings -Ibindings/generic -Ibridge -Icss -Idom -Idom/default -Iediting -Ifileapi -Ihistory -Ihtml -Ihtml/canvas -09:26
lbtIhtml/parser -Ihtml/shadow -Iinspector -Iloader -Iloader/appcache -Iloader/archive -Iloader/cache -Iloader/icon -Imathml -Inotifications -Ipage -Ipage/animation -Iplatform -Iplatform/animation -Iplatform/audio -Iplatform/graphics -Iplatform/graphics/filters -Iplatform/graphics/filters/arm -Iplatform/graphics/texmap -Iplatform/graphics/transforms -Iplatform/image-decoders -Iplatform/leveldb -Iplatform/mock -Iplatform/network -Iplatform/sql -09:26
Bostik(probably moc files too?)09:26
lbtIplatform/text -Iplatform/text/transcoder -Iplugins -Irendering -Irendering/mathml -Irendering/style -Irendering/svg -Istorage -Isvg -Isvg/animation -Isvg/graphics -Isvg/graphics/filters -Isvg/properties -Itesting -Iwebaudio -Iwebsockets -I/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qtwebkit-2.2.1-source/WebCore/wml -Iworkers -Ixml -Ibridge/jsc -Ibindings/js -I/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qtwebkit-2.2.1-source/WebCore/bindings/js/specialization -Ibridge/c -09:26
lbtItesting/js -Igenerated -I../../qtwebkit-2.2.1-source -I/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qtwebkit-2.2.1-source/../include -I../include/QtWebKit -I../include -I/usr/src/3rdparty/sqlite/ -Iplatform/graphics/gstreamer -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/QtMobility -I. -c platform/graphics/filters/arm/FELightingNEON.cpp -o obj/release/FELightingNEON.o09:26
lbtmmm it didn't look that big in the terminal :/09:27
Bostik      -fmessage-length=0 -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -marm09:27
lbtand :   platform/graphics/filters/arm/FELightingNEON.cpp09:27
Bostikthat's the relevant part from first paste block, and the last... yep09:27
M4rtinK"source/JavaScriptCore/wtf" ?09:27
M4rtinK:)09:27
lbtplatform/graphics/filters/arm/FELightingNEON.h:95:13: error: 'FELighting' has not been declared09:27
Bostikaaaaaaaaargh09:28
* lbt needs to check for hackishness09:28
BostikI think I know what's going on09:31
Bostikthe headers sport "#if CPU(...)" checks, and that macro actually opens up to checking -DWTF_CPU_... in compile environment09:32
Bostikyour massive paste doesn't have any of those WTF_* settings, unless I'm mistaken09:33
Bostik...which means that the compilation line is missing some extra elements... (= my error)09:34
Stskeepsthis is just a hunch, btw09:34
Stskeepsbut have you looked at the debian packaging..09:34
Stskeepsthey have same problem09:34
Stskeepsthumb, and vfpv3-d1609:35
Stskeepsdebian or ubuntu09:35
Bostiklbt: I think I know what's missing09:37
Bostikjust a minute09:37
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Bostiklbt: in the patch, modify nothumb.commands to include $(DEFINES) before $(INCPATH)09:38
Bostikthat variable seems to hold all the -DFOO magic09:38
lbtdone09:40
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lbtbut .... surely it's actually passed the #if test?09:40
Bostikthat should be the missing piece09:40
Bostiklbt: no, it's the first include before the test09:40
lbtah09:41
Bostik#include ... \n #if CPU(...)09:41
Bostikand the included headers cascade into similar checks09:41
lbtyes09:41
lbtcompiled OK :)09:41
Bostikso the first header is included, then the nested headers become no-ops...09:41
* lbt isn't quite sure how to say this.... but I guess like pulling teeth, quick is best:09:43
lbt09:43
lbt/opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: ../../WebCore/release/libwebcore.a(FELightingNEON.o): relocation R_ARM_MOVW_ABS_NC against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC09:43
lbt../../WebCore/release/libwebcore.a: could not read symbols: Bad value09:43
lbtCXXFLAGS_NOTHUMB = $$replace(QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE, -mthumb, -marm -fPIC)   ?09:44
Bostikthat might not be enough, but let's try it09:44
Bostikbecause the rest of the objects are without -fPIC, I think09:44
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Bostikmaybe just adding -fPIC to the QMAKE_CXXFLAGS at the beginning of WebCore.pri ?09:52
Bostikwhy isn't PIC the default anyhow...09:52
lbtwell, it's making rpms...09:53
Bostikwhuh? it linked?09:53
lbtyup09:53
Bostikwell I'll be damned, didn't know it was possible to do PIC objects in non-PIC library :)09:54
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* lbt goes a *loong* way up scrollback09:54
lbtnope... no -fPIC in older g++ commands09:55
lbtah wait ...09:56
lbtg++ -c -pipe -Wall -Wextra -Wreturn-type -fno-strict-aliasing -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wformat-security -Wreturn-type -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wundef -Wmissing-noreturn -Winit-self -Wno-c++0x-compat -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -fmessage-length=0 -march=armv7-a -09:56
lbtmfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -mthumb -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DENABLE_VIDEO=1 -DWTF_USE_GSTREAMER=1 -DBUILDING_WEBKIT -DNDEBUG -DBUILDING_QT__=1 -DNDEBUG -DQT_ASCII_CAST_WARNINGS09:56
lbt....09:56
lbt../../WebCore/generated/JSSVGFESpotLightElement.cpp09:56
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* lbt also notes that someone made *damn* sure -pthread was declared :)09:57
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lbtfor our (non arm) platform/graphics/filters/FEGaussianBlur.cpp  we have   -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -mthumb -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -D_REENTRANT -DENABLE_VIDEO=1 -DWTF_USE_GSTREAMER=1 -DNDEBUG09:59
Bostikso there are -fPIC declarations for invididual files after all09:59
Bostiklive and leard09:59
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lbtyeah so platform/graphics/filters/arm/FELightingNEON.cpp has  -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -marm -fPIC -DENABLE_VIDEO=1 -DWTF_USE_GSTREAMER=1 -DNDEBUG -DBUILDING_QT__=1 -DNDEBUG -DQT_ASCII_CAST_WARNINGS -DQT_NO_UITOOLS -DENABLE_XSLT=0 -DENABLE_WEB_TIMING=0 -DENABLE_JAVASCRIPT_DEBUGGER=1 -DENABLE_DATABASE=1 -DENABLE_EVENTSOURCE=110:00
Bostikneat10:01
lbtwe're missing the -pthread and -D_REENTRANT though10:01
lbtso I think $(DEFINES) needs a buddy10:01
Bostikare you sure those even apply for hand-written assembler?10:02
lbtno bloody clue :D10:02
Bostikbut yeah, something might still be missing10:02
Bostikwe're getting closer though :)10:02
lbtwell, "it builds" so Stskeeps can ship it :)10:02
* lbt ducks10:02
Stskeepsdoes this patch come with barbwires?10:02
lbtnah, it's tidy10:03
lbtit's sitting in a hackspace though - I should take a backup10:03
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BostikI'll roll up a patch for qt5/qtwebkit when I get to it again10:29
lbtI was just digging to see what else nothumb.commands should define10:30
Bostikat least the generate Makefile in qthack has just this for main.o10:31
Bostikmain.o: main.cpp bonus.h10:31
Bostik    $(CXX) -c $(CXXFLAGS) $(INCPATH) -o main.o main.cpp10:31
lbt*nod* ... wondering where -pthread went10:32
Bostikso you might be able to see the generated lines for other objects in graphics/platform/10:32
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zuhStskeeps: Sage: Even with this kind of setup: http://pastie.org/4679202 (where ulib is /lib from Ubuntu) the situation is unchanged10:42
zuhInterestingly, preloading the ubuntu libc *doesn't* help10:43
Stskeepszuh: that's really bizarre10:43
Stskeepszuh: try to copy in libX11?10:43
* zuh whishes it was possible to rebuild the mali libs10:44
Sagezuh: eh... maybe one should start other way around. Copy mer stuff to ubuntu and see when it breaks ;)10:46
zuhEmbed the ubuntu rootfs in the image and run against that set of libraries ;)10:47
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zuhall libX* and libdrm from ubuntu -> no change10:53
Stskeepswhat the heck is going on..10:54
Stskeepscan i see pastie?10:54
Stskeepsfor the ldd10:54
zuhhttp://pastie.org/467927010:54
* jussi waves10:55
lbthey jussi10:55
jussihiya lbt10:55
Stskeepszuh: huh10:55
Stskeeps        ld-linux-armhf.so.3 => /ulib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 (0xb6beb000)10:55
Stskeeps         /lib/ld-linux.so.3 (0xb6fa1000)10:55
Stskeepscould you, for fun, ln -s /ulib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 /lib/ld-linux.so.3, even if it may tear up the image?10:56
zuhSure, I'll try something else first but will do that10:57
Stskeepsok10:57
zuhhttp://pastie.org/467930210:59
zuh(the failure is ok, I don't have X running)11:00
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Stskeepswhat the heck11:01
Stskeepsok, well, i think i have a path that may help things a bit then11:01
zuhhumm, for some reason with this change, eglInitialize fails even with X running and otherwise ok (xtrem works fine)11:04
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StskeepsDISPLAY=:0 ?11:11
Stskeepszuh: i think what we might be hitting is some of the patches that are in later glibc with armhf kind of conflicting with the fact we're not naming it ld-linux-armhf11:13
Stskeepsthere's some funny patches in debian packaging so11:14
zuhStskeeps: Yeah, DISPLAY is exported and verified with xterm to work so...11:19
zuhhmm, how could the naming break things...11:20
Stskeepseglibc-2.15/debian/patches/arm/armhf-check.patch11:22
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zuhStskeeps: Any pointers for the blind? I'm not seeing it :)11:37
Stskeepszuh: http://pastie.org/467946511:38
zuhah, ok11:43
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lbtStskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,819 is mer-crosshelpers/cross-template-sysroot11:45
Stskeepsnot exactly right.. moment11:46
Stskeepserr..11:46
Stskeepsno11:46
Stskeepsi'm wrong11:47
Stskeepsnevermind, looks fine11:47
lbtmake cross-armv7tnhl-sysroot too (omit leading meego-)11:48
Stskeepsyes11:48
Stskeepsdo we have a proposed gcc/binutils yet?11:49
lbtalternatively https://gist.github.com/366434011:49
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lbtwhich uses %{_my_port_arch} from prjconf and should work on all arches11:49
lbt(we can just use it on thumb for now)11:49
Stskeepsthe funny issue is that.. _my_port_arch isn't in rpm macros11:50
Stskeepsafaik11:50
lbtit's in https://build.ci.merproject.org/project/prjconf?project=Core%3Aarmv7hl though11:50
lbtisn't that enough ?11:50
Stskeepsyes but not Macros:11:51
lbtah - hadn't realised the difference - not enough time spent setting up targets11:55
lbtwell, lets put it in11:55
Stskeepsi'd prefer not to at this exact stage11:56
Stskeepsi'll put in 81911:56
lbt*nod*11:56
Stskeepsand i think we can start a build then, probably11:57
Bostikdo we get a new gcc? ;)11:57
lbtsoon Bostik, soon11:57
StskeepsBostik: that's on my list if this snowball stuff keeps on breaking.11:57
Bostik\o/11:57
StskeepsBostik: i already have a patch but it needs armhf rename too so11:57
Stskeeps / linker11:57
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lbthttp://review.merproject.org/#change,821 is mer-crosshelpers/cross-armv7tnhl-sysroot12:05
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lbt-> post office, then I'll do qtwebkit12:06
Stskeepsk12:06
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: hello12:53
Stskeepsheya12:53
Stskeepsfinally i have a weekend to do stuff :P12:53
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I have a question regarding hybris and TLS12:53
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: is it possible for a glibc program to use TLS and hybris at the same time?12:54
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: they seem to be clashing at the moment12:54
StskeepsChickenCutlass: hehe, guess what i'm working on this weekend.. so, there's two issues12:54
Stskeepsthe TLS slot for thread errno is overwriting important variables in glibc's TLS area12:55
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Stskeepsthe opengl TLS slot should be fine though12:55
Stskeepsit's in a padded area12:55
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so is the idea to move the errno?12:56
Stskeepsthe idea is possibly to patch bionic.12:56
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: can it be done in hooks?12:56
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: without having to patch12:56
Stskeepsok, so, errno define is (*__errno()) or something12:57
Stskeepsnaturally inside bionic itself, we cannot redefine __errno routine12:57
Stskeepsas it's inlined12:57
ChickenCutlasshmm12:57
ChickenCutlassok12:57
Stskeepsso ideally we can move around errno into the padded area12:58
ChickenCutlassright.12:59
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: is there an example of that.  I can try and patch bionic12:59
Stskeepsmoment12:59
Stskeepsprivate/bionic_tls.h13:00
Stskeeps#define TLS_SLOT_ERRNO              213:00
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok13:01
Stskeepstry to move that to 513:01
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: got it13:01
Stskeepsthere might need to be some more magic being done, fwiw13:02
ChickenCutlassI'm sure.13:02
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: are you planning on looking into this as well?13:02
Stskeepsbecause of the TLSMAP..13:02
Stskeepsit's on my list once i'm done with my work tasks, yes13:02
ChickenCutlassok cool13:02
Stskeepsideally i'd just like to get rid of bionic's routines in general13:03
Stskeeps:P13:03
ChickenCutlassyup13:03
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Stskeepswait, what13:09
Stskeeps(not related to hybris)13:09
Stskeepslbt: around?13:10
lbtyep13:10
lbtjust doing qtwk commit13:10
Stskeepslbt: why did you create mer-crosshelpers/cross-armv7tnhl-sysroot project?13:10
lbt[07/09/2012 12:48] <lbt> make cross-armv7tnhl-sysroot too (omit leading meego-)13:11
lbt[07/09/2012 12:48] <Stskeeps> yes13:11
Stskeepsok, then i misunderstood what you said13:11
lbtI guess we meant differnt things13:11
Stskeepsno need for that at all13:11
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lbtI saw the meego-* projects are (still?) there13:12
Stskeepsyes, but not in use13:12
lbtah ...13:12
Stskeepsremember that we can't delete projects13:12
Stskeepshttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=blob;f=armv7hl/packages.xml;h=b5f374a99b05c41fbca2adff06cda8949d27f5cf;hb=HEAD13:12
Stskeepsthat explains a little more about cross-armv7tnhl-sysroot13:12
Stskeeps / template13:13
lbtok - and if we did the prjconf thing we'd lose the need to use "template" in the name13:14
Stskeepsnot necessarily13:14
Stskeepseither way, 819 fs fine13:14
Stskeepsis13:14
lbtok - sorry for making clutter then :/13:15
Stskeepsno worries13:15
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Stskeepsi've done a couple of bad projects too13:15
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Stskeepslbt: you can access prjfetcher@ ?13:16
lbtyes13:17
Stskeepsok, want to walk through how to add a new arch?13:17
lbtwe can schedule a cleanup13:17
lbtyep - let me check this webkit patch for 5min13:18
Stskeepsok13:18
StskeepsSage: are you around in the weekend?13:18
SageStskeeps: at times yes. not sure how much13:20
StskeepsSage: ok13:20
Sagetomorrow I will be at devaamo so probably at IRC as well ;)13:20
Stskeeps:nod:13:20
lbtStskeeps: OK13:32
lbthttp://review.merproject.org/822 is qtwebkit btw13:33
Stskeepsok, i'll merge that later13:33
Stskeepslbt: ok, so, obs-projects/Core , cp -r armv7hl armv7tnhl13:34
Stskeepsand remove _config packages.xml and _meta in armv7tnhl13:35
Stskeepsnow edit armv7tnhl/_meta.in  , change repository name to armv7tnhl13:37
lbtmmm13:37
lbtrelative paths assume the same starting point13:37
lbtI'm @ ~13:37
lbt~prjfetcher13:37
Stskeeps /home/prjfetcher-mertools/release-tools/13:38
Stskeepshmm13:38
Stskeepsdid we fix gcc and binutils yet?13:38
lbtno13:38
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lbthowever they seem to build13:39
* Stskeeps takes a look13:39
lbtearlier I asked if you'd done it13:39
lbtif not then rpm issue may have been the root cause13:39
Stskeepsyeah, we probably should fix those first then13:40
Stskeepslbt: would you like to learn how to deal with gcc/binutils?13:45
lbtsure13:45
Stskeepsok, clone gcc13:45
Stskeepsit's the usual precheckin.sh magic, so we only touch gcc.spec and precheckin.sh13:46
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lbtmer-core/gcc13:47
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Stskeepsright13:47
lbton the way13:48
Stskeepsclone binutils as well13:51
lbtgcc still on the way :/13:52
lbttarballs are so, so evil13:53
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Stskeepsyou still need to get the tarball somehow14:01
Stskeeps:P14:01
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lbtas long as there is just one tarball in a repo - 'cos I'm downloading a compressed copy of every gcc version we've ever used :(14:07
Stskeepsah, yeah..14:07
Stskeepsisn't there really no way to only download blobs you're interested in?14:07
lbtyes ... but there's a but14:07
lbtyou can't push a shallow clone14:07
lbtso it'd be OK for builds but not for this14:08
lbtdon't worry, git-pkg is the answer14:08
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lbtWrite failed: Broken pipe14:14
lbtfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly14:14
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Stskeepslbt: is it really not possible to get saner connectivity where you live, btw?14:15
Stskeeps:P14:15
lbtkinda - I bought a 2nd ADSL line - turns out the cards only work on Intel chipsets, not AMD14:16
Stskeepsah14:16
Stskeeps:P\14:16
lbtfinally got a machine - now I need to dedicate some time to setting it up14:16
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lbtI think gerrit just crashed though :/14:17
Stskeepsseems to work for me on web14:17
lbtcan't clone14:18
* Stskeeps tries14:18
* Stskeeps restarts it14:19
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Stskeepsnow?14:19
lbtyep, good14:19
lbtit's also going full speed14:19
lbtpreviously it was slow14:20
Stskeepsodd14:20
lbtdunno if it's deliberate but I started a 2nd clone (binutils) and it hangs14:21
Stskeepswe should prolly do a gerrit upgrade soon14:22
lbt*nod*14:22
lbtadd projects to that purge list then - we can do that at the same time14:23
Stskeepsmm14:23
Stskeepsalso, if the projects has been used by a previous mer commit..14:23
Stskeepsstrictly speaking we can't remove them14:23
lbtMER#56114:23
lbthttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56114:23
MerbotBug 561: task, Low, ---, david, NEW, Delete un-wanted projects from gerrit14:23
lbtMerbot: too slow :)14:23
Merbotlbt: Error: "too" is not a valid command.14:23
lbtyes, that's true14:24
* lbt needs espresso14:24
phaeronif you published src.rpms you could remove them from git :)14:26
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lbtStskeeps: modify arches in precheckin.sh for them both and tehn run it14:55
Stskeepsright, but also go look in gcc.spec14:56
Stskeepsthere's no tnhl14:56
lbtugh14:57
lbtand the docs make it sound so simple14:57
lbtso : crossextraconfig --with-float=hard --with-fpu=neon --with-arch=armv7-a --with-mode=thumb14:59
lbt?14:59
Stskeepsright14:59
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Stskeepsfuck, i think i've actually made a dent in my n950 cover15:15
lbt:/15:16
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Jope:-(15:22
Stskeepsgood excuse to buy that microsim and switch to n915:22
Stskeeps!15:22
JopeI still haven't been able to forgive myself for scratching the glass on my jeans rivet15:22
lbtStskeeps: gcc: https://gist.github.com/366713015:23
lbtpushing to gerrit will cause a hell of a rebuild before review :)15:24
lbtso a quick sanity check seems sensible15:24
pirutinteresting but very annoying problem, I have an external card reader, any time I insert a sd card into it is disconnected15:25
pirut"usb 2-1.2: USB disconnect, device number"15:25
Stskeepspirut: power consumption?15:25
Stskeepslbt: more sanity needed but after dinner?15:26
Stskeepslbt: when do you go to tango?15:26
Stskeepslbt: i think you need to rerun precheckin.sh15:27
pirutStskeeps: I am not sure, when I remove the sd card I can see "Attached scsi removable disk"15:29
pirutIt was working yeaterday :(15:29
pirutlast thing I did was a dd to copy an image over, now I am totally confused15:30
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lbtStskeeps: yep, looks like15:49
Stskeepsupdate gist?15:53
lbtdone15:56
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Stskeepslooks sane15:57
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lbtbinutils https://gist.github.com/366740816:00
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Stskeepsthat doesn't look right.. or does it16:01
lbtbaselibs.conf.old is odd - but actually shows the last diff - which looks the same16:02
Stskeepsbrb16:02
lbtok I pushed gcc to gerrit http://review.merproject.org/82316:03
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Stskeepslbt_away: ok, binutils looks fine too16:16
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: are you still there?16:25
StskeepsChickenCutlass: sortof16:26
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: quick question16:26
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: with hybris16:26
Stskeepssure16:26
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I am getting a segfault when trying to call atoi from a glibc program16:26
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: can't figure it out16:26
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I tried to impelemt my own via hooks.c16:26
Stskeepscall atoi from the android libc?16:27
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: let me post the stack trace16:27
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/GTb88FmR16:28
Stskeepsright, and the .c program?16:29
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/Gsx11dXg16:30
Stskeepsokay, that .c program is glibc?16:31
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: yes16:31
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Stskeepswtf16:31
Stskeeps:P16:31
ChickenCutlassweird16:32
Stskeepsvalgrind? ;)16:32
ChickenCutlasswas trying to avaid16:32
ChickenCutlassavoid16:32
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pqChickenCutlass, maybe the environment is screwed?16:47
ChickenCutlasspq: so I failed to mention the test program is a .cpp file and compiled with g++.16:47
ChickenCutlasspq: if I make it .c and use gcc it works16:48
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: could that make a difference?16:48
pqhuh16:49
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ChickenCutlasspq: Stskeeps figured it out16:53
ChickenCutlasspq: Stskeeps if I call atoi before any call to a function that goes over libhybris it works.  If I move it to after it fails.16:54
StskeepsChickenCutlass: so what was the problem?16:54
StskeepsChickenCutlass: ah, yes16:54
StskeepsChickenCutlass: this is prolly malloc or locking related16:54
ChickenCutlassseems bad16:54
StskeepsChickenCutlass: yes16:55
Stskeepsi thought i had a fix for that16:55
Stskeepsgah.. really need to get back into this16:55
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I hope you do :)16:55
Stskeepshad theoretical driving exam, prep for a conference talk and work.. along with people drilling a lot in my building (now have good headphones)16:56
Stskeepsnever been so unproductive in a while :P16:56
ChickenCutlass:)16:56
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so where did you think you fixed that?16:58
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: maybe I can look16:58
Stskeepsdoes your hooks have malloc in it?16:58
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Stskeepslike, at the moment17:00
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: no a my_malloc but just a map from malloc to malloc17:01
ChickenCutlassnot17:01
Stskeepsok17:01
Stskeepsand free/calloc/cfree etc?17:01
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: same17:02
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so is the mapping table in hooks.c a map from bionic to libc?17:19
ChickenCutlassI should say glibc17:20
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Stskeepsyes17:25
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok, so interestingly if I have a map for atoi to my_atoi it will get called until I make a hybris call.17:26
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: but seemingly only stoi17:26
ChickenCutlassatoi17:26
Stskeepsso the issue is prolly some bad tls thing in bionic17:27
Stskeepsi need to set up a bionic build myself17:28
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: right ok.  I will stop bugging you17:28
ChickenCutlass:)17:28
Stskeepsit's fine, just not at laptop atm :) will get back into the game soon agaun17:29
Stskeepsagain, that is17:29
ChickenCutlassok17:29
lbt_awaypushed binutils - off out for an italian o/17:31
Stskeepslbt_away: thanks17:33
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CosmoHillDammit Ikea, I had the fittings all the time but you hid them from me17:49
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Stskeepsevening18:47
CosmoHillhello18:47
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Stskeepstimoph: ping18:53
Stskeepstimoph: when is the irc q&a session tomorrow?18:53
timophStskeeps: I'd guess 12.15 .fi time18:54
timophthe thing starts at noon and I'm the first so18:54
* Stskeeps counts18:55
timophI'll ping you before the things starts18:55
CosmoHilldinner time, talk later .o/18:55
timophah. poland is only -1h to us18:55
Stskeepsok18:56
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Stskeepsmm, looking forward to that in the morningg19:11
Stskeeps-g19:11
* timoph ponders how the q&a thing will work19:11
lpotterheh19:11
timophinteresting experiment in any case19:12
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aoeuwhy not web-based?19:15
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Stskeepsaoeu: if anybody wants to do a mer with a html5 only interface on top, they're welcome to :)19:15
Jay_BEEwhat's the 'q&a thing' about?19:16
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* lpotter wonders what "BuildService API error: can't verify packages due to lack of GPG keys" really means19:17
Stskeepslpotter: i'm being told that it revolves around red and blue pills19:17
Stskeepslpotter: i think it would verify it with rpm and locally installed keys19:17
Stskeepsbut we don't provide the obs keys in a nice handy format..19:17
Stskeepsjust use --no-verify19:17
Stskeeps:P19:18
* lpotter tries that19:18
Stskeepsand before you notice that it's really irritating to iterate with a full build chroot construct/compile/rpm make cycle, yes, we have a solution for that19:19
Stskeeps:P19:19
Stskeepsso it's more make-ish19:19
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lpotter'before I notice' happened last year with unnamed internal project19:26
Stskeepsyeah..19:26
Stskeeps:P19:26
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Stskeepslbt has this thing called quickbuild which basically makes us able to bypass some rpm build stages19:27
Stskeepsand do one change and not wait forever19:27
lpotterin my previous workflow, obs was the last and only to verify that obs will build it and that the tests pass19:28
lpotterbut that was with a full blown CI system19:29
lpotterobs makes openembedded feel simple19:31
Stskeepswell, i can only say there's some locations in nokia that i am fairly happy has been shut down...19:31
Stskeepsand no, it doesn't start with b, for good measure19:31
Stskeeps:P19:31
lpotter:)19:31
Stskeepsbut that's what happens when an organisation completely decides to ignore the people that actually knows something about a topic..19:32
Stskeepswell, guess where we are now19:33
Stskeeps:P19:33
Stskeepsobs isn't bad, but it's often 1) abused to do bizarre things and 2) not taught very well to people and 3) not always very well documented..19:33
Stskeeps:P19:33
lpotterya, I have always opted for simple cross compiler19:34
Stskeepssimple cross compiler is good, for stuff that cleanly cross compiles, yeah19:34
Stskeepsi do disagree with using OBS as a full solution CI system though..19:38
Stskeepsin mer (itself), it's just used as a builder19:39
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w00tStskeeps: is quickbuild documented anywhere?19:50
Stskeepsnot sure, we're integrating last parts for it in mer atm19:51
lpotterI need to get a beefy linux machine19:51
Stskeepsget one with lots of RAM19:51
Stskeeps:P19:52
lpotterindeed19:52
Stskeepsi did that mistake .. i thought 'oh i'll just ssh into servers'19:52
CosmoHilli was specing up Ansys workstations with quad cores and 32GB+ of RAM19:52
Stskeepsbam, needs for VMs..19:52
Stskeeps:P19:52
SageStskeeps: we merging more stuff to the next prerelease still or just checking htat nothing broke and release?19:53
* lpotter knows qa people that got some older rack servers19:53
StskeepsSage: first armv7tnhl19:54
Sageok19:54
StskeepsSage: i don't personally consider the window closed yet19:54
CosmoHilllpotter: if I had rack mount stuff I'd have an ikea coffee table full of computer equipment19:54
Stskeepsthat's true, there's people using ikea stuff to do rack mounting19:54
CosmoHillrack stuff is 19" wide, right?19:55
lpottermostly19:56
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CosmoHillour coffee table is 17.5"19:56
Stskeepslbt_away: i've done some of the last changes for thumb so it can build over weekend20:01
Stskeepslbt_away: will make it easier to reach iteration goal20:02
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CosmoHillhttp://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1601.html20:07
CosmoHilli think I can rack mount this case in an Ikea Ivar 50cm deep shelf20:07
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lbtw00t: if you want to do quickbuild talk to me :)21:02
lbtlpotter: you too21:04
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CosmoHillnight night23:05
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svudoes it make sense to install mer on n800?23:56
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