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| lbt | JohnJ_: there's very little ARM-specific code in Mer | 00:22 |
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| lbt | mostly it's higher level and cross-compiled to run on ARM | 00:23 |
| JohnJ_ | lbt: I see, I was pointed here as a cool project to see ARM use, been searching through your packages and just find C code | 00:24 |
| lbt | well, we do target multiple ARM devices | 00:24 |
| JohnJ_ | do you know any OS project where I could find ARM-specific code? | 00:24 |
| lbt | it's just that very little real code is written in assembler anywhere | 00:24 |
| lbt | gcc ? | 00:24 |
| lbt | the kernel of course | 00:25 |
| JohnJ_ | I understand, it then cross-compiles to the different ARMs, x86 | 00:25 |
| lbt | and parts of glibx | 00:25 |
| lbt | c | 00:25 |
| lbt | yes | 00:25 |
| JohnJ_ | by anywhere you mean anywhere in mer, or anywhere in mobile dev? | 00:26 |
| lbt | the latter | 00:26 |
| lbt | most of the time code written in C and run through an optimising compiler is better than asm anyway | 00:26 |
| lbt | what you really need to learn is things like the ABI issues, how the thumb instruction sets work, hardfp vs softfp | 00:27 |
| lbt | Mer is a good place for that kind of thing | 00:28 |
| lbt | anyhow... very very late here so I'm off to bed. Feel free to ask questions and I'm sure people will answer when they're awake (we're mainly EU | 00:29 |
| lbt | o/ | 00:29 |
| JohnJ_ | oh enjoyed so much crunching asm in college, thought these days there would be an hight request for ARM | 00:30 |
| JohnJ_ | guess not | 00:30 |
| JohnJ_ | tks for the answer | 00:31 |
| JohnJ_ | \o | 00:31 |
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| lbt | JohnJ_: maybe https://github.com/freedreno/freedreno http://freedreno.github.com/ | 00:35 |
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| JohnJ_ | lbt: gonna check it | 00:39 |
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| darai | Hello, I'm just a visitor stopping by to check on the status of Mer. | 01:29 |
| darai | It's good to see that it's up and going | 01:29 |
| darai | Was a bit concerned, hearing about the news about Tizen/Bada and the such | 01:30 |
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| iekku | morning | 03:10 |
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| timoph | morning | 03:51 |
| ljp | yay! I get an n900 | 03:55 |
| timoph | it's still a very nice hackable gadget (i have two :p) | 03:56 |
| ljp | indeed | 03:56 |
| * ShadowJK has 3, as nothing better has come out yet | 04:05 | |
| Sage | ShadowJK: n950? ;) | 04:15 |
| timoph | :) | 04:16 |
| Sage | on my n950 fn (?) key seems to be failing it makes bad sound already when pressed. :/ | 04:17 |
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| ShadowJK | N950 can't be obtained, and as a daily device has same 3 biggest issues as N9 :) | 04:19 |
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| ShadowJK | like, harm, aegis, and msf | 04:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 04:25 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: what is the status of mer prerelease btw. Good to go or some fixes still needed? | 04:29 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: did we try to boot n900/n950 yet? | 04:30 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i was waiting to hear if there were any ofono changes | 04:30 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ofono is fixed with -latest already on n950 | 04:30 |
| Sage | was adaptation side fix | 04:30 |
| Sage | or at least I can make calls now | 04:30 |
| Sage | I have booted only vm so far | 04:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 04:33 |
| Sage | updating my n950 soon with the -next though | 04:33 |
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| Stskeeps | let's boot n900 and n950 soon and let's say that's OK? | 04:34 |
| Stskeeps | do we have images with latest-latest? | 04:34 |
| Sage | we don't have images with latest latest atm. | 04:35 |
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| Stskeeps | okay | 04:37 |
| Stskeeps | can we make that? | 04:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 04:37 |
| Sage | quite high expectations this time in the morning ;) | 04:38 |
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| Sage | partially no images for the latest -latest is in purpose as I wanted to really see how the update works and what parts of the guides needs updating. | 04:40 |
| Stskeeps | well, i just want to have images made for -next so we can QA it and not have aard or others shout at us ;) | 04:41 |
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| * Sage ponders what Stskeeps meant with that -next images are done already | 04:43 | |
| Stskeeps | okay, i need coffee | 04:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 04:43 |
| Stskeeps | long story short: we need to QA n900 and n950 for -next | 04:43 |
| Sage | figured out that much :D | 04:43 |
| Stskeeps | i've tested x86 | 04:43 |
| Sage | not cool, I have no idea where my microsd card is | 04:47 |
| Sage | or n900 battery even :P | 04:47 |
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| Stskeeps | well, if you do n950 i can do n900 | 04:49 |
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| Sage | found \o/ I'll do n900 :) | 04:50 |
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| Sage | my n950 is doing other tests atm. thus I prefer n900 atm. | 04:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 04:53 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: did you solve your prelink issue yet? | 04:57 |
| Sage | no | 04:57 |
| Sage | no idea what is causing that :/ | 04:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 04:57 |
| Stskeeps | we should move to IMG based builds anyway | 04:57 |
| Stskeeps | replicatable build setups | 04:58 |
| Sage | yes | 04:58 |
| Sage | maybe it is a bug in my host kernel or something that prelink thingy | 04:59 |
| Sage | It doesn't happen always but quite often now | 04:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:00 |
| * Stskeeps writes image to n9 | 05:02 | |
| Sage | boots n900 and his laptop | 05:02 |
| Sage | n900 boots fine and network and ntp works as well ;) | 05:06 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if he needs a new moslo | 05:07 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage: can you do ls -al /dev/tty* for me on n900? | 05:14 |
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| Stskeeps | and tell me what user/grup they have | 05:14 |
| Sage | easier to pastie http://pastie.org/4572526 :) | 05:15 |
| Sage | tty1 is the most interested one I guess :) | 05:16 |
| Stskeeps | ok, more info then | 05:16 |
| Stskeeps | cat /etc/group | grep video | 05:16 |
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| Sage | video:x:39:nemo | 05:17 |
| Sage | added in .ks file | 05:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 05:18 |
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| vgrade | lbt \o | 05:27 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning situ | 05:34 |
| situ | hi | 05:34 |
| situ | I was able to commit my changes on server. | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 05:35 |
| situ | Right now I am at office so won't be able to work on it. | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | sure, work first :) | 05:35 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: n900 seems to be working fine | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:44 |
| * Sage puts sim to his n900 to test the phone functionality | 05:45 | |
| Sage | Stskeeps: on n900 the tty is a problem at times btw. | 05:45 |
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| Sage | we should probably fix that already in this release | 05:45 |
| Sage | on some boots the tty and Xorg are up at the same time and I can see terminal flickering and I can type to the terminal as well ;) | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | working on it | 05:46 |
| Sage | first boot was fine second boot is terrible because that problem | 05:46 |
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| Stskeeps | who here is interested in system level work, qt5, wayland, mer with busybox, wayland, good development environments? | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | er, double wayland.. too little coffee | 05:59 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: busybox o/ | 06:00 |
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| Sage | :) | 06:01 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I can confirm the tty fix (removal of the getty@tty1 file) on n900 fixes the issue | 06:01 |
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| Ionakka | qt5 absolutely, wayland's interesting too | 06:02 |
| Ionakka | i would guess that it's hard to find someone _not_ interested in good dev envs ;) | 06:02 |
| Bostik | qt5 yes, wayland yes, good devkits yes, busybox... not so much | 06:02 |
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| Stskeeps | my aim is to include a busybox option for mer, and start productizing http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mini-mer-i586-vm-qmlcompositor.ks a bit | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | ie, minimal images, start using systemd user sessions with wayland, etc | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | develop-able in virtualbox with llvmpipe sw rendering | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | then over time slap it on top of various devices like r-pi, the libhybris work, etc | 06:05 |
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| Andy80 | 'morning! | 06:12 |
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| Stskeeps | morn Andy80 :) | 06:13 |
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| sonach | wayland and busybox, yes, my interests ! but ability is not enough to develop, can do test work first :P | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 06:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: how is the mer running on Gingerbread hw adaption for MIPS stuff going? hi3716C hasn't arrived yes, so if the MIPS stuff is OK, I can try it on BCM7231, | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: not focused that much on that part yet | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | got some issues i need to solve on arm first | 06:18 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK, no hurry. then I can wait hi3716C and test the ARM version, | 06:18 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning phaeron | 06:47 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: morning :) | 06:47 |
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| Stskeeps | morn kallela, mikhas | 06:55 |
| kallela | good morning | 06:58 |
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| mikhas | moin | 07:00 |
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| veskuh | lbt: is there a way to change email in nemo/mer bugzilla? I've got my old nokia mail there, and can't use it anymore obviously. | 07:09 |
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| Sage | iekku: ^ can you change veskuh's e-mail? | 07:14 |
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| iekku | Sage, i will try | 07:28 |
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| ltrvs | gomorron all :) any ETA for the build system to be up again? | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | we're probably doing a full release today and then start merging/building | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | depends :) | 07:30 |
| ltrvs | Stskeeps: ok. just wanted to know, no rush ;) | 07:31 |
| iekku | Sage, solved | 07:32 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:39 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: mer release right? :) | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | right | 07:40 |
| lbt | morning | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: has anybody in KDE community investigated systemd user sessions yet? | 08:30 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: good morning | 08:34 |
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| mdfe_ | how does it work? | 08:34 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: ping | 08:35 |
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| Stskeeps | well, quite easily really | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=nemo-mobile-session&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Auser-sessions&rev=5 gets you a xterm | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | no uxlaunch included | 08:36 |
| notmart | mdfe_: pong | 08:36 |
| mdfe_ | notmart: Stskeeps is asking if we have investigated systemd user sessions yet | 08:37 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: uxlaunch? Whats about the xserver? | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: handled by xorg-launch-helper which is really tiny, just another systemd user service | 08:38 |
| notmart | mdfe_: no, not really | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | it won't be mandatory in mer, but a possibility | 08:38 |
| mdfe_ | whats the goal? | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | goal is much faster bootup, saner inter-dependencies between user processes | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | fast shutdown of session | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | changing targets, perhaps even apps as systemd services, better cgroup usage, etc | 08:39 |
| notmart | what needs to be done? i guessjust a bunch of service files somewhere? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, probably | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | it replaces /etc/xdg/autostart and /usr/share/xsession | 08:39 |
| mdfe_ | we ohne have to create a own systemd rule instad using uxlaunch? | 08:39 |
| notmart | st the moment we use a little app that handles dependencies in a similar way to systemd | 08:39 |
| notmart | eventually using systemd would mean a thing less to maintain | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | just letting you know this is being prepped for in mer, so people can choose that option too | 08:41 |
| mdfe_ | it would be very nice if we are not forced into this area atm | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | it's not in any way forced | 08:42 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | just letting you know of future possibilities | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | it has nice things like starting up daemons as user -before- xorg, too | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | ie, things that only need dbus | 08:43 |
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| mdfe_ | whats is about debugging capabilities of start-up sequences in systemd? | 08:45 |
| mdfe_ | imho its really hard in case something is going wrong | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can ask it to show you even a graph or time spent | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | or see what services failed to launch | 08:46 |
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| mdfe_ | if you get a shell | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | right, well, you can always possibly kick into an emergency mode | 08:47 |
| mdfe_ | this sounds interesting, never heard about | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, if it notices services fail, it can switch to different target | 08:47 |
| notmart | yeah, i think is not something for pa3, but is definitely something to look into | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 08:49 |
| notmart | even for the desktop, since there is used a script that probably some people here are younger than that :p | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | and if you guys are interested in wayland/qt5, i'm slowly starting a project to do mer+wayland+busybox+qml compositor to pave the way for even more interesting systems in future | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | to for example put on top of traditionally for android hw | 08:52 |
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| notmart | yeah, that's in the target as well, but a complete qt5 port will take a long time | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | hello fomg-optimize | 08:53 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: in what shape does the android baselayer provide EGL / GL drivers? | 08:53 |
| sroedal | notmart: a qt5 port to where? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: i presume you saw my libhybris demo? | 08:53 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: now I see it :) | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to kinda combo the work pq's been working on and getting wayland working on top, perhaps first with qtwayland / qml compositor | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | as the methods for sharing buffers are already by standard in android gpu drivers | 08:55 |
| sroedal | right | 08:55 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: what kind of hardware would you recommend for playing with this stuff? | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: it's a bit rough at the moment, i myself use touchpad with qualcomm, chickencutlass is using JB with galaxy nexus, pq's on ICS with galaxy nexus | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to have community help iron it out and get it working | 08:56 |
| sroedal | ok | 08:56 |
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| notmart | sroedal: i was talking about a qt5 port of complete kde (and thus plasma active too) | 08:57 |
| notmart | that's on the way but of course quite slowly ;) | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: next step at the moment for me is to get qmlscene going | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: with eglfs | 08:57 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: sounds good, you could create a custom device profile for that, with custom eglfshooks | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: :nod: | 08:58 |
| sroedal | notmart: right :) | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: the magic is that we provide a libEGL.so / libGLESv2.so which bridges to the android GPU drivers, so hopefully not much mods are needed | 08:59 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: yep | 08:59 |
| sroedal | do the Android GPU drivers in addition to buffer to texture abstractions also provide direct page flipping of buffers? would be needed for direct rendering of wayland clients | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | i -think- i've seen that around | 09:01 |
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| fomg-optimize | Hi there! Just a quick question... Does mer use x window system? What kind of x server does it make use of? | 09:01 |
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| Stskeeps | fomg-optimize: x.org but wayland and others are in progress too | 09:02 |
| fomg-optimize | Stskeeps: ah, thank you for the quick answer! | 09:03 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, I'm not sure how much of my wayland-on-android work so far is reusable with the hybris approach, if any. It was almost all just fighting the Android, which hybris fortunately gets rid of. | 09:12 |
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| Stskeeps | pq: we'll see | 09:13 |
| sledges | morning all! | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn sledges | 09:14 |
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| sledges | ahh the rain is coming :( | 09:15 |
| sledges | it is going to rain during the whole long bank holiday weekend! | 09:16 |
| sledges | England :) | 09:16 |
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| VDVsx | very shity weather in .fi as well, summer is over it seems :P | 09:21 |
| sledges | what summer? | 09:23 |
| sledges | :)) | 09:23 |
| VDVsx | :D | 09:23 |
| VDVsx | I still remember last years summer, was in a Thursday :D | 09:23 |
| savaaZ | typical finnish "summer" around 33100 | 09:25 |
| sledges | :) | 09:33 |
| sledges | sounds like you're on about a polar day :) | 09:34 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, what was the original version of the gingerbread linker you imported into libhybris? Was it really the one in your initial commit? | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | afaik? | 11:18 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, I can't seem to find the identical linker.c from bionic gingerbread branches | 11:19 |
| pq | just wanted to see what you changed | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | i'll check sha hashes if you want | 11:20 |
| pq | that would be cool | 11:20 |
| pq | I assume you didn't touch the ics nor jb code, so I would need to do similar changes in ics? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | i couldn't test it | 11:21 |
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| pq | actually what got me into this, was trying to find out how you are sure to load the right one of bionic vs. glibc libc et al.? | 11:24 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, test_egl ends up with a segfault http://pastie.org/4573895 , but I'm not surprised since that's using the gingerbread libhybris, when /system is ics. | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | enable LINKER_DEBUG and change the PRINTF(2, in linker_debug to -1 | 11:35 |
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| Stskeeps | and get some debugging on | 11:35 |
| pq | ok, got a lot more now. | 11:39 |
| pq | Stskeeps, and your ics/linker.c is indentical to AOSP one, as I expected, but the gingerbread is not, or I couldn't find the right version. | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | moment, having pizza :) | 11:41 |
| pq | Stskeeps, where do you differentiate whether your lib search comes up it bionic or glibc libs? | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | pq: load paths | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | pq: it has hardcoded /system/lib and /vendor/lib already in android | 11:42 |
| pq | hm, I need look harder... | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | for dlopen we need a full path anyway | 11:42 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, what topping? :) | 11:43 |
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| pq | ahha, apparently LD_LIBRARY_PATH would be trouble, i.e., need to be renamed | 11:48 |
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| pq | aah, it may crash because of an unimplemented pthread symbol, I guess | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | also possible | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | gdb is handy | 12:01 |
| pq | yeah, I need to switch to a better chroot... though I have other things to do before I actually start hacking on libhybris | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | alone knowing there's pthread symbols we don't handle is a good start | 12:07 |
| pq | haha, yeah I just understood that piece of your code, providing a "subtle" hint that this is unimplemented :-D and gdb would even tell me which symbol it is. | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | that is another fun issue we'll have to handle | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | how to make debugging and stack traces easier | 12:10 |
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| pq | starting with full paths in the debug output would be a start, so one sees it is using the right lib | 12:11 |
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| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: hi | 12:58 |
| ovasyura | stskeeps:Hi. How can I create sb2 target for N900? Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Installation describes the process for N950. But the same approach can not be used for N900 because http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ n900 images don't contain tar.bz2 files. | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | lo ChickenCutlass | 13:00 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I have made progress with libhybris. and the test program works. I can also almost get the egl test working but is fails to create a surface. | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | ovasyura: shouldn't matter | 13:00 |
| ovasyura | Should I use nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-08-05.2.ks file? | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: progress \o/ | 13:01 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I think in order to create a surface you need to ask surfaceflinger for a buffer. | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | ovasyura: just use the n950 one | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: nop | 13:01 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: hmm | 13:01 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: did you have to kill SF? | 13:01 |
| ovasyura | stskeeps: for N900 device? | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: i've never run sf | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | ovasyura: yeah, it doesn't matter in practice | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: then again, i dont do it in a chroot, i dont even have android running | 13:02 |
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| ChickenCutlass | I see | 13:02 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: so to let you know -- there is no difference in JB vs gingerbread | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: isn't there a hardcoded "32" in the test_egl ? | 13:02 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: my problem was hard float | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | or 24 | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: alright | 13:02 |
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| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: try to switch 32 to what bpp the screen /framebuffer has | 13:05 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: ok | 13:05 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: in the attrs? | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:05 |
| ovasyura | stskeeps: Thank you. I will try. Does it mean that I can install 950 image on my n900 device? | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | ovasyura: no, there's subtle differences | 13:05 |
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| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: no luck. So close | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: same as in /sys/class/graphics/fb0 ? | 13:09 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: ? | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | there's a bpp in /sys, so | 13:10 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: right 32, that is what I am using. | 13:11 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: so I get this in the device log. http://pastebin.com/AE1EafLr | 13:12 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: right before I request the surface | 13:12 |
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| pq | ChickenCutlass, yes, surfaceflinger will prevent other framebuffer apps from running, and the EGL for framebuffer can be used only by one at a time. | 13:16 |
| Sage | lbt: have a moment to talk? | 13:16 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: right. I made sure I do not hveit running | 13:17 |
| ChickenCutlass | have | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: strace? | 13:19 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, fwiw, this works on ICS: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/tree/src/compositor-android.c | 13:19 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: ok | 13:19 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I will try that next | 13:19 |
| pq | you could try to steal the parameters from that | 13:19 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I appear to have stolen the CI OBS workers | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: .. | 13:19 |
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| lbt | Sage: sec | 13:19 |
| lbt | puppet | 13:19 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, and this gets me the nativewindow to use with EGL: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/tree/src/android-framebuffer.cpp#n41 | 13:20 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: ah, thanks | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: there is some weird interaction when not using libEGL wrapper at times | 13:21 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, oh yeah, the weston code assumes you are using the android wrapper-libEGL, not the hw libs directly. | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: the goal is being able to avoid the wrapper libEGL | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | ie, android-wrapper | 13:22 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I see | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | because it does really weird TLS crap | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:22 |
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| pq | also, less android, the better :-) | 13:23 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: so you think I need to pass the fb window to the create surface | 13:24 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, yes, I can't see how else it would work. | 13:24 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: ok I get it | 13:25 |
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| pq | android::FramebufferNativeWindow() sets up flipchains and whatnot, IIRC | 13:25 |
| pq | but, it is also very tied to the android-wrapper-libEGL | 13:25 |
| pq | I hope we get rid of most or all of the C++ hell, when we start using the hw libs directly | 13:26 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: so I guess I need a shim in libhybris for those calls? | 13:26 |
| mike7b4_work | Hi all, why isnt mer SDK include rpmbuild? Or is there something else to use when create RPM:s ? | 13:26 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, I guess... you're further in it than me | 13:26 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: ah ok | 13:27 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, the code I linker you to, is the Weston (Wayland server) backend that can run on real Android, without surfaceflinger. | 13:29 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: right ok | 13:29 |
| pq | actually the android system tree has some small test apps, too | 13:30 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: was there still something to inspect with the upcoming mer next? | 13:31 |
| pq | ChickenCutlass, in frameworks/base/opengl/tests/ the ones that call android_createDisplaySurface() | 13:32 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: awesome | 13:32 |
| ChickenCutlass | thanks | 13:32 |
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| pq | ChickenCutlass, and that functions is defined in frameworks/base/libs/ui/FramebufferNativeWindow.cpp and from there, it starts to get messy, so for quick tests, using that of the equivalent like in weston is preferrable | 13:34 |
| ChickenCutlass | pq: right | 13:34 |
| pq | *that or the equivalent | 13:34 |
| ChickenCutlass | understand | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | the good news is that all those parts are oss and we can tamper with them as much as we want | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:39 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: right, unlike the GL drivers themselves. | 13:39 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: if they were open | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:40 |
| ChickenCutlass | we could just re-compile against glibc | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | i wish, but .. same situation on glibc-gles drivers | 13:40 |
| ChickenCutlass | right | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://review.merproject.org/#change,786 pls to review | 13:41 |
| Sage | looks good | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: will i have my workers back? | 13:45 |
| Sage | :P | 13:45 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: done | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 13:47 |
| lbt | a while back | 13:47 |
| lbt | Sage: ok now | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i need either a full release or prerelease yet, then we're stable | 13:47 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: just say when | 13:49 |
| lbt | (and what) | 13:49 |
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| Sage | lbt: well I was just thinking about the mer tools project content. and that it would be nice if mer tools releases would be in form of <mer-release>-<mer-tools-release, date?> or so | 13:57 |
| Sage | if vendor wants to use packages from tools with mer release vendor needs to know exactly which mer core release was the tools build against to be sure that there is no e.g. soname change problems | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: also, when would you like to migrate CI FE/BE, if at all? | 13:59 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: when I've finished this bit of work | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:00 |
| lbt | Sage: I'm tempted to document that in the release notes rather than have a huge value | 14:00 |
| lbt | The SDK also includes a Mer release too | 14:00 |
| Sage | lbt: well, SDK contains Mer + Mer:Tools, Nemo would like to contains Mer + Mer:tool + Nemo | 14:01 |
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| Sage | or well, would be best if we could maintain same packges. | 14:02 |
| lbt | yes - I'm just worried about the names | 14:02 |
| lbt | "SDK_0.20120719.1_0.20120614.1_6.02" | 14:02 |
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| Sage | lbt: well the sdk version could still be 6.02 it would just contain Mer relesae 0.20120719.1 and Tools 0.20120719.1_0.20120614.1 or what ever | 14:03 |
| lbt | it's actually Tools which is 6.0.2 | 14:04 |
| Sage | :P | 14:04 |
| Sage | 7g 25 | 14:04 |
| lbt | SDK is Mer+Tools | 14:04 |
| lbt | let me sort out this deployment stuff first | 14:04 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, btw. you have noticed that android has a hardcoded dedicated TLS slot for openGL, right? | 14:44 |
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| Stskeeps | pq, yes | 14:49 |
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| regisg | Hello, | 16:14 |
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| regisg | I want to by a tablet... is Dell Nexus 7 tablet a good one for installing mer project ? | 16:15 |
| regisg | Is there any attempt to bild mer image on it ? | 16:15 |
| kulve | Dell? | 16:19 |
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| kulve | I would also be interested to know if somebody is working on getting Mer to it | 16:19 |
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| regisg | Asus | 16:22 |
| kulve | techicly I think it should be possible | 16:23 |
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| regisg | Ok, thanks | 16:30 |
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| Stskeeps | evening | 19:47 |
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| lpotter | hiya | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | morn lpotter :) | 19:55 |
| lpotter | hacked nemo on my n900. heh :) | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | it's somewhat amazing how much of a handset stack is actually there.. considering how things were before | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | of course, not as impressive as qtopia :P | 19:58 |
| lpotter | of course! | 20:02 |
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| Stskeeps | well, the good news about libhybris and TLS is that there's actually a lot of padding in the pthread structure. | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | 24 void pointers worth | 21:01 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: what happened to the release? | 21:42 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 22:16 |
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