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| timoph | morning | 05:14 |
| timoph | any ideas about this n900 flashing error? http://pastie.org/4566238 | 05:14 |
| Paimen | morning | 05:16 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: uhh. | 05:17 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: is that from a PR1.2 flashing? | 05:17 |
| timoph | 1.3 | 05:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:17 |
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| timoph | or whatever the latest maemo image is :) | 05:18 |
| timoph | iirc 1.3 | 05:18 |
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| Stskeeps | hello aifff | 05:42 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: connman isn't starting up on my VM image | 05:43 |
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| aifff | hi guys | 05:43 |
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| Stskeeps | aifff: welcome :) so what brings you to #mer ? | 05:44 |
| aifff | i think mer ui is very doog | 05:44 |
| aifff | good | 05:44 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | aifff: ah, we don't really have a mer ui :) | 05:45 |
| aifff | the news says the ui will come! | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | aifff: well, mer is for vendors, vendors take mer core and add a UI on top | 05:46 |
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| iekku | aifff, do you mix mer and jolla? | 05:47 |
| aifff | maybe i mix | 05:48 |
| aifff | Jolla's MeeGo UI is ready to go - and it's on the hunt for mobile talent | ZDNet | 05:49 |
| aifff | rihgt? | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | right, that's jolla | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to ask jolla about the UI in detail :) | 05:50 |
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| aifff | can you see it? | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | it's Jolla's own UI, so i can't say | 05:51 |
| aifff | it | 05:51 |
| aifff | expect | 05:52 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: hmmp | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | you'll investigate? | 06:02 |
| Sage | I'll check once I get the image booted :) | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | k | 06:07 |
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| Sage | at least the image boots which is good :) | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:09 |
| Sage | the prelink stuff is strange btw. | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | i fully agree | 06:09 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: for me vm gets network out of the box | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: wtf | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | for me, connman didn't start | 06:11 |
| Sage | wrong image? :) | 06:11 |
| Sage | for me it works perfectly :) | 06:11 |
| Sage | check systemctl status connman.service | 06:12 |
| Sage | and rpm -q connman | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok, give me URL again? | 06:12 |
| Sage | rpm -q connman and check it is 1.4 version | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | i shut down VM again :P i'll retest the image | 06:13 |
| Sage | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120816.0.2.NEMO.2012-08-21.1/images/ | 06:13 |
| * Sage hands Stskeeps big mug of coffee | 06:13 | |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: for me the vm looks good | 06:26 |
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| niqt | morning | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: wtf, didn't come up for me before.. | 06:30 |
| Sage | :) | 06:30 |
| Sage | also ntp seems to work thoughthe sysuid is a bit slow | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i'll move on to looking at the prelink issue | 06:37 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: tested only the VM so far but based on that release looks good. | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:37 |
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| sledges | good morning | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | good morning | 07:59 |
| Paimen | morning | 07:59 |
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| Paimen | not yet sure is it good | 07:59 |
| sledges | so far so good :) | 07:59 |
| Paimen | :) | 07:59 |
| Paimen | well nothing bad has come yet so you could call it good, only one hour to noon | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | hello grz | 08:03 |
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| mikhas | goodbye grz | 08:05 |
| VDVsx | :D | 08:07 |
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| Andy80 | good morning guys | 08:09 |
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| sledges | :) morning Andrew | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://pastie.org/4566787 | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | wth | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: what QEMU version do you have in your SDK? | 08:10 |
| Sage | qemu-usermode-static-1.1.50.2012.07-1.1.i486 | 08:11 |
| Sage | can't get the pastie open | 08:11 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: but it seemed to work quite randomly. | 08:11 |
| Sage | at times it is ok and times it fails | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | MerSDK carsten@ideapad:~$ rpm -qa | grep qemu | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | qemu-usermode-1.0.50.2012.03-1.3.i486 | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | qemu-usermode-static-1.0.50.2012.03-1.4.i486 | 08:12 |
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| Stskeeps | i don't get the error, at least | 08:12 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: moment | 08:13 |
| Sage | testing with exact the same cmds here :) | 08:16 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: btw mic-0.13-mer1.1.2.noarch | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | mic-0.8.acf9b1-3.1.noarch | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | i should get a new SDK.. | 08:17 |
| Sage | :) | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | what was status on ofono? | 08:19 |
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| Stskeeps | and that fix there | 08:19 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: that would be jpoutiai and sjanc I guess | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | well, the missing udev rules file | 08:21 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: for me it does the prelink thingy | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: can you remove quiet/add verbose to prelink? | 08:22 |
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| Sage | sure | 08:22 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: you mean quick -q? | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | nm, just add vv | 08:23 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: i suspect something dies somewhere, so | 08:25 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4566878 | 08:32 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: can you try to rpm -i the qemu from mer-next? | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | static and dynamic | 08:32 |
| Sage | to sdk? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:33 |
| Sage | sure | 08:33 |
| Sage | err... actually I have it already | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | try a downgrade and see if it changes? | 08:34 |
| Sage | k | 08:34 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: same problem with downgraded qemu | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 08:40 |
| lbt | morning | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: cat /proc/vm/vdso_enabled? | 08:40 |
| Sage | cat: /proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled: No such file or directory | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | well there's one of them that's called vdso something | 08:42 |
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| Sage | not on my comp :D | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | mmk | 08:42 |
| Sage | not in sdk or host | 08:42 |
| Sage | f17 fwiw | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:43 |
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| faenil | good morning | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: can you chroot into it and re-run prelink? | 08:44 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: ok, what is the best way to do that? | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: mic-chroot? | 09:05 |
| Sage | well, will make raw image for that | 09:07 |
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| dm8tbr | hmm, suggestion: can we add opus support to mer? it's open and royalty-free - http://opus-codec.org/ | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | does it have a gstreamer plugin? | 09:17 |
| dm8tbr | I think I've seen it used in gstreamer, yes | 09:18 |
| dm8tbr | should I file an issue once I've found the gstreamer bit? | 09:18 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/lib/connman/scripts/openvpn-script: Dependency tracing failed | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | uhh | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: yes sure | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: same paramters? | 09:18 |
| Sage | yes | 09:19 |
| Sage | /usr/sbin/prelink -aRqmvv | 09:19 |
| dm8tbr | http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ prominently lists opus.. even though as video codec... o.O | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: awkward | 09:20 |
| Sage | so what else changed in this mer release :) | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt_: URL for testing SDK? | 09:21 |
| lbt_ | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Upgrading_the_SDK | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | i mean from scratch | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | i don't want to upgrade, just install fresh image | 09:22 |
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| lbt_ | I haven't published an image for that | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | mmk | 09:23 |
| lbt_ | :P | 09:23 |
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| lbt | download an old one and upgrade | 09:23 |
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| sledges | I do not see much of Mer on ARM11 (ARMv6) support on OBS. One chap on #nemomobile whants to build Mer+Nemo on FriendlyARM Tiny6410 - any forecasts? :) | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | does he have a gles chip? if no, don't bother | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | gles driver, too | 09:43 |
| sledges | 533 MHz Samsung S3C6410A ARM1176JZF-S with VFP-Unit and Jazelle (max freq. 667 MHz) | 09:44 |
| sledges | hm, no info on GPU, how come | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | well, because the chip has a gpu but the drivers aren't public in any way.. | 09:49 |
| sledges | reportedly it runs Qtopia and Qt Embedded (will check its sources) | 09:49 |
| sledges | http://www.friendlyarm.net/downloads | 09:49 |
| sledges | but nothing after year 2010 :) | 09:50 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: just upgraded SDK and i don't see it, still | 10:10 |
| * Stskeeps tries again | 10:11 | |
| Sage | o_0 | 10:11 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps: that chap still might have a hope: https://github.com/tom3q/openfimg | 10:15 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Pakke :) | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: btw, add i486 VM images too? | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | to the releases | 10:29 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: ok | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | (please) | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: three images in a row and no prelink errors | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | i declare WORKSFORME | 10:38 |
| Sage | time to reboot my laptop I guess :) | 10:47 |
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| Sage | lbt: have a sec | 11:13 |
| Sage | or maybe a moment :) | 11:13 |
| Sage | I got frustrated to the mer-kickstarter inherit order and rethough it. Maybe you want to check my thoughs :) | 11:13 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/4567519 | 11:15 |
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| Sage | ah, typo refresh | 11:16 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: might want to give a look as well | 11:16 |
| Sage | That way the stuff that is in section that is inheriting others will always override the inherited stuff | 11:16 |
| Sage | Aard: ^ comments? | 11:16 |
| Sage | also later always overrides older | 11:18 |
| lbt | Sage: pong | 11:19 |
| lbt | looking | 11:21 |
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| * Sage ponders if lbt is drawing lines to paper ;) | 11:23 | |
| lbt | being distracted here | 11:24 |
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| lbt | I am thinking why depth is most important | 11:24 |
| lbt | typically it's depth first but then linear | 11:25 |
| lbt | GFEDCBA | 11:25 |
| lbt | or | 11:25 |
| lbt | DCEBGFA | 11:26 |
| lbt | depending if you scan down or up | 11:26 |
| lbt | err, up or down | 11:27 |
| Sage | well the latter is same as I suggested :) | 11:27 |
| lbt | OK, yeah, I think I misread the diagram first time | 11:27 |
| lbt | I had BCE as equal depth | 11:27 |
| Sage | let me edit example below | 11:27 |
| lbt | I *think* scanning up may make more sense since the G/F sections appear 'later' in the config and so should override? | 11:29 |
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| lbt | but... | 11:29 |
| lbt | anyhow... need to go post some stuff | 11:29 |
| lbt | I'll look again when I get back | 11:30 |
| Sage | refresh | 11:30 |
| Sage | The point is that Nemo Adaptation N950 N9 brings e.g. PartSize: X which is also in Mer Base: So that needs to be overrided. | 11:31 |
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| lbt | Sage: yes, I had that too - Mer Base shouldn't have it though - it's strictly HA | 11:57 |
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| Sage | lbt: well this follows the DCEBGFA http://pastie.org/4567786 | 12:02 |
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| lbt | Sage: worth noting that dict iterators are not usually defined to have any specific ordering | 12:09 |
| ovasyura | One question about https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238 bug. What is workaround when we are speaking for i586 target(virtual box)? | 12:10 |
| Merbot | Bug 238: normal, Normal, ---, not-taken, NEW, rpm running under sb2 does not detect the platform correctly and needs etc/rpm/platform setting | 12:10 |
| Sage | lbt: umm... but the inherit stuff is in list | 12:10 |
| lbt | ok - how did it get there? | 12:10 |
| Sage | lbt: talking to me or someone else ?:) | 12:11 |
| lbt | Sage: yes, if you parsed the yaml as a DOM then it's likely to be dict-driven | 12:11 |
| lbt | Sage: it would need to be yaml event driven for document order to matter | 12:11 |
| lbt | I'd play it safe for now and say order is not respected unless you're sure | 12:11 |
| Sage | Inherit: | 12:11 |
| Sage | - Nemo x86 Common | 12:11 |
| Sage | but that is list not dict? | 12:12 |
| lbt | ah | 12:12 |
| lbt | OK | 12:12 |
| Sage | :D | 12:12 |
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| lbt | and that's the same all the way isn't it - so yep, my bad | 12:12 |
| Sage | lbt: don't scare me so much :D | 12:12 |
| lbt | just thinking how it could go wrong :) | 12:13 |
| Sage | so agreed with my solution? | 12:13 |
| lbt | ovasyura: https://raw.github.com/lbt/mer-minimal/master/n900/minimal-n900.ks | 12:13 |
| lbt | Sage: yes, looks better | 12:14 |
| Sage | ok. I'll push it to my branch and continue | 12:15 |
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| ovasyura | Merbot: Yes. I understand it. But what value should I use for i586 tarhet? echo -n "armv7hl-meego-linux" > etc/rpm/platform is valid only for armv7hl. I can not define value for i586. | 12:27 |
| Merbot | ovasyura: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). | 12:27 |
| dm8tbr | ovasyura: merbot is just a bot (who among other things comments bug IDs) | 12:30 |
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| niqt | Sage: why ins't present qmlcalendar in nemo image 08.05.2? | 12:32 |
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| niqt | ops | 12:32 |
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| VDVsx | any tricks need for review.merproject.org ? always rejects my publickey, might be my laptop that is a bit infested with lots of old keys | 12:41 |
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| Stskeeps | did you set up your username? | 12:42 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps: in gerrit ? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:43 |
| VDVsx | yes | 12:43 |
| VDVsx | lets see if things match | 12:43 |
| VDVsx | obs works fone | 12:43 |
| VDVsx | fine | 12:43 |
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| ovasyura | Stskeeps: Hi. One question about workaround for 238 bug. What value should be used for i586 build? Unfortunately I can not define. echo -n "armv7hl-meego-linux" > etc/rpm/platform doesn't work for i586 target | 12:45 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps: actually is a little bit different, the one in gerrit has caps, looks like is not possible to change there :( | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: hmm | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: git clone ssh://VDVsx@ ? | 12:45 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps: yup, but I was trying with vdvsx that is the obs one :D stupid me, but there's also some conflits here with the keys, lets see if I can resolve them, don't want to format yet another laptop today :D | 12:47 |
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| sledges | merproject.org dead Stskeeps lbt | 12:59 |
| sledges | down sounds more appropriate :) | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 13:00 |
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| sledges | must be apple/google :)) (back in the one would blame it on microsoft :)) | 13:01 |
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| * lbt looks | 13:05 | |
| lbt | :( | 13:06 |
| sledges | :{ | 13:06 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: what went boom? | 13:08 |
| lbt | phost1 | 13:08 |
| lbt | you got any servers in DC14 ? | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | isn't phost1 yours? | 13:08 |
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| lbt | yes | 13:09 |
| lbt | but want to check it's a host issue and not a connectivity to datacentre | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: none in dc14 | 13:10 |
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| Venemo | do ARM builds count as linux-g++-32? or that is x86 only? | 13:14 |
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| crevetor | lbt it's back | 13:15 |
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| lbt | crevetor: wow | 13:16 |
| sledges | well done ?lbt :) | 13:16 |
| lbt | thanks - I was literally about to reset the host | 13:16 |
| sledges | :D | 13:16 |
| lbt | no, well done crevetor :) | 13:16 |
| sledges | and phost1 being autonomous (a watchdog in there? :)) | 13:16 |
| lbt | no problems reported at Hetzner | 13:16 |
| crevetor | lbt: :) | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: huh? | 13:16 |
| sledges | yup, spot-on crevetor | 13:16 |
| lbt | uptime 146 days sledges | 13:16 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, in qmake terms | 13:17 |
| lbt | I did notice the traceroute was stopping 1 short of where it should though | 13:17 |
| lbt | so my guess is a transient router issue | 13:17 |
| sledges | yup, good that not threat from an iOS h4ack-o :)) | 13:18 |
| lbt | nah, then we'd just see the webpage go a funny colour and they'd be all "yeah, just look at those colours clash muthas" | 13:19 |
| sledges | definitelly they are not emos then :)) | 13:19 |
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| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: you're the guy who put dalvik on top of glibc back in 20009, aren't you? | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | er, 2009 | 13:32 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: yes | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: whatever happened with that? | 13:33 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I put my pencil down. | 13:33 |
| ChickenCutlass | :) | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | still a very interesting topic in this day and age though | 13:33 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: ended up not being all that usefull in practice | 13:33 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I actually think libhybris has way more actual value | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | it does - though running Android apps on top of non-android systems is also useful | 13:34 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: true. I think there is an easier way to do that | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | as since your experiments i've only seen commercial companies pull it off | 13:35 |
| ChickenCutlass | and even then. I do not think they work very well | 13:35 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I hope to get to try the softfloat env today. | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | well, if you ever publish those patches/that work under a open source license i'm fairly sure there would grow a community around it | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | i plan on working more on libhybris today myself | 13:37 |
| ChickenCutlass | great | 13:37 |
| ChickenCutlass | if I have patches for example -- the JB stuff | 13:38 |
| ChickenCutlass | how do you want them | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | github pull requests | 13:38 |
| ChickenCutlass | ok | 13:38 |
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| sledges | so openmobile.co's ACL -is- a vapourware (or will remain closed source) ? | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: well, it's not vapourware, i've seen it in action | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | but that's for sure closed source | 13:41 |
| sledges | pity, wonder if they've forked off from ChickenCutlass' effort, or that's a different concept | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | well, ChickenCutlass never published his code, so it couldn't have been a fork in the open source sense | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | android apps on top of non-android is entirely possible | 13:42 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I am restricted in publishing it. Sorry | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: yeah, i was just curious | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | but also something with significant value, as i was saying before | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | er, as i was going to just say | 13:42 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: my approach was building everything against glibc and then using a shim to relay surfacefliger to X | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | ChickenCutlass: :nod: | 13:43 |
| ChickenCutlass | Stskeeps: I think there is a better way | 13:43 |
| ChickenCutlass | reverse it | 13:43 |
| ChickenCutlass | run android in a chroot | 13:43 |
| ChickenCutlass | and use libhybris for the display | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 13:43 |
| sledges | any d-bus experts around? | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | it would definately solve egl/glesv2 acceleration as well | 13:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hello savaaz :) | 15:03 |
| matrixx | savaaz: o/ | 15:06 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo simon__ | 15:09 |
| simon__ | :) hi | 15:09 |
| simon__ | long tim eno see | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | how are your projects going? | 15:10 |
| simon__ | preparing to SmartDevCon going well, finally some preassure schedule point. | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:10 |
| simon__ | what anbout U? | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | i'm good, working hard together with Jolla, and preparing a bit for my talk too.. the stupid situation is that i got a theoretical test for driver license that can only be on 5th | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | so i will have my talk moved, i hope | 15:12 |
| simon__ | oh | 15:12 |
| simon__ | I am hoping to see you on the conference | 15:12 |
| simon__ | i hope it really can be moved. | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | i will be there no matter what | 15:12 |
| simon__ | :) ok | 15:12 |
| simon__ | good attitude | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | it's just 2-3 hours of train from here, i can't do otherwise :P | 15:13 |
| savaaz | sup all? | 15:13 |
| simon__ | so preparing the SmartDevCon i noticed that there is no udisks in Mer, is that correct? | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | simon__: correct, but easy to package | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | savaaz: not much :) welcome to #mer :) so what brings you here? | 15:14 |
| simon__ | Stskeeps: I tried to use RPM from meego, but it has a lot o deps. | 15:15 |
| simon__ | Stskeeps: yep, i would package it, but I moved to a place with no internet connection and that makes it difficult, so i was wandering it there is anyone else have packaged udisks already. | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | what do you need it for, out of curiousity? | 15:17 |
| simon__ | recognizing USBs | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 15:17 |
| simon__ | or maybe there is another way to get a notification of usb attachment. | 15:17 |
| savaaz | @Stskeeps: long story short. we develop qt and especially some embedded stuff and a friend told me that I should be present here. I've been too busy with all the company stuff and totally forgot to be around in these forums. | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | savaaz: sure :) | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | savaaz: if you have any questions on Mer, we'd be happy to answer at any time | 15:18 |
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| sledges | simon__: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=udisks&project=CE%3AMW%3APlasmaActive | 15:22 |
| simon__ | stskeeps: yo, just found it also | 15:23 |
| simon__ | neom says: no rpm package | 15:23 |
| sledges | http://repo.pub.meego.com//Project:/Cordia:/GNOME:/Shell/Mer_Core_armv7l/armv7l/udisks-1.0.4-7.1.Mer.armv7l.rpm ? | 15:23 |
| simon__ | sledges: thanks, that is what I am trying out now :) | 15:24 |
| savaaz | If I should select 5-10 inch touchscreen pc for industrial use.. do you have any hardware proposals and should I use Mer? We're just developing pretty basic application for printing some codes.. | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | savaaz: well, generally, if you have 2.6.32 or above linux kernel ability and a framebuffer, you have a good start.. | 15:25 |
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| simon__ | Stskeeps: I packaged udisks myself, but when instaling rpm -i brings an error: not an rpm package (or package manifest) | 16:07 |
| simon__ | Stskeeps: stupid me, wait I will try again... | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | simon__: file filename.rpm | 16:09 |
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| simon__ | Stskeeps: i installed udisks, what was again the method to start it? | 16:26 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, am I guessing right that you simply use the Mer toolchain(?) to build libhybris? | 17:00 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | bog standard glibc, gcc | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | make ARCH=arm | 17:09 |
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| VDVsx | who should be the reviewer/s for packaging stuff ? | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | just go on to next item, we review when we can, and auto tests too | 17:21 |
| VDVsx | ah ok :) | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | when you see a -1 you react ;) | 17:23 |
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| Stskeeps | wb situ | 18:11 |
| situ | Hi Stskeeps | 18:11 |
| situ | What's up ? | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | not much.. been spending the day working on systemd user sessions | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | had a day without any meetings or any phonecalls, so i'm happy to spend a day hacking for once | 18:13 |
| situ | Do you make lots of changes in systemd for Mer ? | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | not a lot.. but there is something mysterious going on | 18:14 |
| situ | .. and what is that ? | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | well, i'm getting permission denied on some things i shouldn't be | 18:15 |
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| situ | Ok. | 18:17 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: regarding your tweet : we don't care about Tizen devices we want mer devices ! :) | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. but it's not fun for anybody involved in those projects that there's things like this going on | 18:24 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: unfortunately it's usually not a good sign indeed | 18:25 |
| VDVsx | most of the people that I know(or maybe all) that went to Intel to work in Tizen are not working in that project for long long time | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | the people who do Tizen IVI in OTC are good people and do good work, at least | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | really something valuable to the OSS community | 18:26 |
| VDVsx | I guess thats not based in Finland, but I agree as long is OSS is good for everybody | 18:27 |
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| Stskeeps | they are some based in finland, at least | 18:27 |
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| VDVsx | ok, gonna take a look to that IVI if I find something, have no clue about it :D | 18:29 |
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| Stskeeps | it's practically mer-ish | 18:30 |
| crevetor | The logo for mer should be a merman ! | 18:32 |
| lpotter | I prefer mermaids | 18:33 |
| VDVsx | they could just use mer then :) | 18:34 |
| crevetor | :) | 18:34 |
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| crevetor | I guess it makes sense that I use mer then. Crevette meaning shrimp in french and all | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:35 |
| Venemo_N9 | actually, Nemo was almost named 'mermaid' back then | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | jolla is kinda mer-themed too | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:41 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hehe | 18:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | what a coincidence | 18:45 |
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| ltrvs | speaking of jolla, did this one already circulate here: https://twitter.com/ceoStephenElop/status/237843130513252353 | 18:46 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 18:47 | |
| ltrvs | probably only finnish speaking people will get that one, but anyway ;) | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | ltrvs: i didn't actually catch that, no | 18:47 |
| ltrvs | yup, dunno if there was some rumours about that in teh internets before this parody elop's tweet, but at least one person thought it was for real | 18:49 |
| ltrvs | I bet the source for the rumour was that tweet ;) | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | what is a design partner anyway.. | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | I never thought that a fake account can become this popular | 18:51 |
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| ltrvs | yeah :) and to ruin the joke, here's a clue for the non-finnish: http://translate.google.com/#fi/en/jolla | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | https://twitter.com/FOSSNewsChannel is better anyway | 18:51 |
| ltrvs | Stskeeps: wow, thanks for that | 18:52 |
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| faenil | good evening, I'm back :) | 19:06 |
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| lbt | ping vgrade2 | 19:18 |
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| Venemo | is it possible that the link to the latest sdk at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK is outdated? | 20:05 |
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| Venemo | yeah. | 20:12 |
| Venemo | "latest" was updated on 04th june, and 6.0.2 was updated on 12th august | 20:13 |
| Venemo | and the upgrade rendered my sdk useless: http://pastebin.com/5225UPMU | 20:14 |
| Venemo | although creating an empty file called ~/.sbrules made the error go away | 20:16 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: ping | 21:21 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 21:47 |
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| sledges | good n8 :) | 22:23 |
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| JohnJ_ | I'm looking to learn ARM with your project (would love to be successful and be able to contribute) but I can't find any code in ARM in your gitweb, could you point me to an example? | 22:57 |
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