Sunday, 2012-08-19

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Stskeepsmorn07:08
Paimenmorning07:08
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Stskeepsgood morning amulus07:13
amulusGood morning, even though it seems tobe a bit rainy day in Tampere area...07:14
Stskeepssun and 30 C here in warsaw :)07:14
amulusLucky you :)07:15
Stskeepsamulus: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time07:15
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Stskeepsamulus: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time07:35
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Stskeeps@$%07:35
Stskeeps:P_07:35
dm8tbrandroid irc clients. rarely a stable connection.07:35
dm8tbr&& good moaning07:36
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lbt /mermorning07:59
lbtthat's where the rest of that cd command went08:00
lbtkitten moved the mouse whilst I was typing08:00
Stskeepshehe08:01
lbtright, well, I have the RasPi booting mer now08:02
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Stskeepscol08:02
Stskeeps+o08:02
lbtnext step is to minimal-mer it and get it on to Getting Started08:02
lbtalso consolidate how some of the HA are done - currently in CE:HA08:03
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lbtmorning phaeron08:05
phaeronmorning08:05
lbthttps://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5864 :)08:06
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Stskeepsphaeron: had a good flight to eg?08:07
phaeronyeah it was ok, spent most of yesterday and before sleeping08:09
Stskeepsprobably a good initiative08:10
amjad_ping Xfade?08:12
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t-loMorning, guys.08:13
Stskeepsgood morning t-lo08:13
lbthey t-lo08:13
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t-loNice, the Mer OBS tutorial (wiki) actually uses systemd in its example. Coincidentally this is the package I'm about to work on.08:25
Stskeepsexcellent ;)08:25
* Stskeeps ponders idly what pieces of hw needs to be where in his new apartment.08:28
dm8tbrt-lo: you mentioned ofono in the context of systemd yesterday? any specific problem?08:28
t-loNope, just an inconsistency with ofonos systemd configuration.08:29
t-loMore of a latent problem, really.08:29
t-lohttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542 has all the details.08:29
dm8tbrok, coleague of mine is looking at ofono at large and said that the newer ofono has problems starting at all08:30
lbtStskeeps: more cat5 than you think you need - it offers control wires as well as ethernet08:30
t-lodm8tbr: Heh, might be related, might as well not. Does it crash, or is it simply never started.08:31
t-lo?08:31
dm8tbrI don't know actually. We'll have to ask jpoutiai when he comes into the office on monday.08:31
t-lo@dm8tbr: 'k. Is there a bug in the tracker for this? Maybe I can figure out something.08:34
dm8tbrhmm, don't think so08:35
t-lo'k.08:36
dm8tbrt-lo: hmmmmm, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172#c308:37
t-loYeah, I was working on that one yesterday.08:38
t-loThat's how I came across the systemd config issues.08:38
dm8tbrok08:38
t-loBasically #172 from the Nemo tracker blew up into #542 and #543 in the Mer tracker. See the last comments in #172 for details.08:39
lbtdm8tbr: you bored? want to add some bug link to merbot? Where is merbot?08:40
dm8tbrMerBot`: botsnack08:41
MerBot`dm8tbr: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command.08:41
dm8tbrmeh08:41
dm8tbrlbt: yeah, just need to figure out how to do multiple trackers on one channel. otherwise I'll have to split to bmo here and bnmo there.08:42
dm8tbrI had this set up for bmo already, but the bz was not there... ;)08:42
lbt#xxx is bmo n#xxx is nbmo08:42
lbtt#xxx just gets you a fortune08:43
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dm8tbrdoes supy have provisions for multiple trackers on one channel?08:44
dm8tbrI'll check later today08:44
lbtty08:44
dm8tbrright now having fun with some libvirt madness08:44
lbt*g* ...I'm just about to do the same08:45
dm8tbron squeeze it doesn't seem to be too good... (thankfully only one machine with squeeze in my universe)08:47
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iekkumorning08:52
Stskeepslbt: yeah, i'm wondering to start out with fiber..08:54
Stskeeps:P08:54
Stskeepsor at least gbit ready08:54
lbtyep - cat5 really is cat6e now anyhow so gbit is easy - it's also useful for control and sensor connectivity too08:56
lbtfiber sounds OTT for flood wiring08:56
lbtcan you open up the walls/ceilings/floors?08:57
Stskeepsish, at least there's nice available tunnels for laying cables within the walls08:57
lbtI ran my video cable in the floor of the room above before we redid carpet08:57
lbtthere's a fair bit of analog needed too - eg speaker cables08:58
lbtalso it's a lot easier than you may think to dig a channel out of plasterboard, route cables and fill it in seamlessly afterwards08:59
t-lo@lbt: what's cat6e?08:59
lbtt-lo: whatever comes after cat5 cable spec09:00
t-loSo it's cat6 @250MHz?09:00
lbtprobably - it's been a long time since I really cared ;)09:00
t-lo:)09:00
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lbtmy semi-professional datacenter wiring days are *long* gone09:01
t-lo@Stskeeps: cat6a would be the "nerd porn" option; up to 500MHz transmission frequency, 10GB ready :)09:01
* dm8tbr suspects lbt meant cat5e09:02
lbtdm8tbr: *mumble*09:02
lbthttp://www.binbert.com/blog/2010/05/differences-between-cat5-cat5e-cat6-and-cat6e-cables/09:02
t-lo@Stskeeps: you don't really need fiber to be really, really fast anymore.09:02
dm8tbryay, I somehow beat libvirt into submission09:02
lbtdm8tbr: it's marketing .... *someone* uses the term :)09:03
lbtI'm safe just BS'ing09:03
* dm8tbr also needs to figure out how to route some gbit from the study to the living room for general purpose09:03
t-lo@lbt: almost right, just that 6e really is 6a: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable09:03
lbtt-lo: *g*09:04
dm8tbrphone was easy, I managed to abuse one of the left-over wires that is routed across the flat.09:04
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t-lo@lbt: :)09:04
dm8tbrhooked it up to the ATA in the study09:05
lbtdm8tbr: electric drill and a nice long bit09:05
lbtI've become very blase at just making holes when walls get in the way09:05
dm8tbrlbt: I actually have both yes...09:05
t-lo@dm8tbr: phone lines? What, no VOIP?09:05
dm8tbr40cm drill. needed it at my parents house for the ceilings (30cm concrete+stuff)09:06
dm8tbrt-lo: there's a SIP-ATA in the study as I said. I need local POTS to connect e.g. the polycom I found in the dumpster.09:06
dm8tbrmost of my personal voip is handled by my N950 anyway09:07
* lbt has a host called spookybox ... some kind of pots/IP sip thingy09:07
t-lo@dm8tbr: oh, cool!09:07
dm8tbrthey don't throw away the IP based polycom bridges just yet it seems ;)09:08
dm8tbrelse I'd have raped the lines and put 100M on them instead09:08
lbtdm8tbr: keep an eye out for an 8 port kvm09:08
* Stskeeps ponders going for a SIP-like solution..09:09
lbtStskeeps: no question09:09
dm8tbrI think I recently found one but tossed it. who needs kvm anyway... there's IPMI and stuff09:09
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lbtdm8tbr: not at home09:09
dm8tbrI'll try to remember the next time I go 'diving'09:09
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lbtdm8tbr: btw, I'm using tinc to do a fully meshed virtual switch for Mer infra... just FYI09:10
dm8tbrI read that, yes09:11
lbtit's nice09:11
dm8tbrI also run tinc on one of my boxes, but not doing much with it09:11
dm8tbrmy next topic of interest infra wise is: http://openvswitch.org/09:11
lbtI looked at it09:11
lbttinc is super-trivial to setup and self manages the mesh09:12
lbtsingle binary and mature09:12
lbthence...09:12
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dm8tbrsure09:12
dm8tbrmy friend does far more advanced stuff with vlans and tagging etc. he loves openvswitch09:13
Stskeepslbt: any good ideas for n900/n9 compatible sip boxes for plugging into a phoneline?09:16
lbtsadly I use asterisk09:16
lbtand it's not fun09:17
lbtother HW solutions don't let you do interesing things with the landline->SIP redirection09:18
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dm8tbrlbt / Stskeeps: fritzbox, especially with freetz firmware allows you to do all sorts of fun stuff09:22
dm8tbrootb it allows also POTS/ISDN <-> SIP bridging09:23
lbtStskeeps: can you try to login to phost4 as root from your machine09:26
Stskeepslbt: have to go to a child baptisement09:26
lbtok - l8r... I appear to have lost access :/09:26
lbtprolly screwed ssh config09:27
Stskeepslbt: http://pastie.org/454929609:27
Stskeepsphost4 is yours or mine?09:27
lbtoops... rescue looking likely ... yours09:28
Stskeepsi'll kick it09:28
lbtOK - nothing on it09:28
t-loHmmm, review.merproject.org does not like my ssh rsa key :/09:29
Stskeepst-lo: remembered to set username in gerrit?09:29
t-lo@Stskeeps: O.o !09:30
t-loYepp, that solved it :)09:30
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jingzheHi, do you know what repository and architecture I should use in obs for N900?09:36
jingzhecan I use armv7el and Mer armv7 hardfp port?09:36
jingzheI am using web UI in https://build.pub.meego.com/09:40
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amjad_ping lbt12:48
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lbtamjad_: pong13:26
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kulvewhat does "rfkill: WLAN soft blocked" mean..?13:28
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lbtprobably the hw WLAN switch is 'off'13:30
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kulveI don't think my gumstix has one..13:35
kulvewithout the rfkill kernel module I managed to get the network up manually but now that I have it, all ifconfig commands say "blocked"13:36
kulveOr "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kil" to be precise13:36
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vgradekulve, try ./test-connman enable wifi13:46
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diorahmanstill don't understand what is "bionic-based HW adaptation" (If this question is considered to be something that unimportant please ignore it :-) )13:47
Stskeepsdiorahman: android HW adaptations13:47
Stskeepsgpu drivers made for android13:48
kulvevgrade: I enabled it in /var/lib/connman/settings and I also tried that one. Now it doesn't complain about the rfkill anymore. I'm not sure which one helped13:48
kulvenow I just need to figure out how to connect to my wpa network.. :)13:48
lbtkulve: is this bare Mer?13:48
kulvelbt: yes13:48
lbthttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Getting_Started13:49
kulvelbt: ?13:49
diorahmanStskeeps: the implication of libhybris is to make #mer available for current android optimized devices?13:49
lbtkulve: the scripts in there setup a wpa on boot13:50
Stskeepsdiorahman: yes13:50
lbtsee https://raw.github.com/lbt/mer-minimal/master/n900/minimal-n900.ks13:50
lbt"Configure Networking"13:50
diorahmanStskeeps: super duper awesome! :-)13:50
diorahmanI guess I have to sit down and getting started to do something with mer13:52
diorahmansuper awesome! hate being living in the country treated as market only :-) -- S40 everywhere, there should be something "cheap" but smarter than those current feature phones13:53
kulvelbt: excellent. Thank you very much :)13:53
kulveI have now wifi working :)13:53
lbtwhat machine?13:53
kulvegumstix overo13:53
kulvei.e. omap3 based13:54
lbtright - can you please help to extend that page for that device?13:54
kulvehere's the project: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Akulve%3Aovero13:54
lbtideally in the same format13:54
lbtI'm doing raspi at the moment13:54
lbtdoes gumstix have 3d gfx?13:54
kulveyes but I don't need 3d in my project. I might still add it, if it doesn't take several weeks of cursing this time..13:55
kulvecompositing windows might still be hard to get working..13:55
kulvehardware accelerated video encoding is the next tricky one for me. That's one reason I can't use raspi for this project13:56
lbt*nod*13:56
kulvewhy connmand doesn't start automatically in the boot? Is it supposed to be start in a user session..?13:58
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kulvelbt: are there too many pages listing these hw adaptation stuff? Getting started, Adaptation, Community_Workspace..14:01
lbtyep14:02
lbtGetting started is my project to give to vendors for a handful of devices14:03
lbtreally it will be about seeing a minimal Mer UX on a device14:04
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* Stskeeps ponders idly14:10
Stskeepslbt: that blog platform i was talking about.. :P14:10
lbthttps://github.com/mojombo/jekyll/14:10
lbtguess what was in my current browser window14:11
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t-loHey guys, when I commit -s for Mer, can I use a different e-mail address for signing my changes than I used for registering with review.merproject.org?14:38
t-loThe thing is I used my google mail address for registering with review.merproject.org since it requires OAuth, but I would like to use my primary e-mail address (which doesn't do OAuth) for signing.14:39
kulvelbt: do you know if there are xfce packages for mer? All UXes seems to need 3d acceleration for window composition to be useful. XFCE would be enough for many use cases (not suitable for mobile screens though)14:40
Stskeepst-lo: add in gerrit14:42
Stskeepskulve, there is a lightweight qt env somewhere14:42
Stskeepsname escapes me14:42
t-lo@Stskeeps: kthx!14:43
Stskeepskulve, razor-qt14:44
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kulveStskeeps: thx, I'll check it out at some point14:54
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dm8tbrlbt: do you want bugmail to irc announcements? with the fairly low volumes most of the time it could be an idea. but we'd need to default subscribe a mailbox of mine to everything.15:04
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t-lo@Stskeeps: what's your gerrit e-mail? I would like to add you to a review.15:09
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Stskeepscarsten.munk@gmail.com but usually not needed15:13
lbtt-lo: no need15:13
t-lo'k.15:14
lbtdm8tbr: I think it's a good idea - would like to do it on a supybot in mer infra though15:14
t-loStskeeps: well, see, this one produces an error in merrit:15:14
t-loApplication Error15:15
t-loCarsten Munk <carsten.munk@gmail.com> is not a registered user.15:15
t-loLooks like you're not a registered user :)15:15
dm8tbrlbt: so that's a no for now then. fine by me.15:15
t-loWell fortunately it starts to look like adding you to a review is usally not needed :)15:15
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dm8tbrbug #4215:38
MerbotBug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42 task, Low, ---, tuukka.tolvanen, ASSIGNED, libffi-devel has possible bashisms in it's RPM scriptlets15:38
dm8tbrquery --install=bno 4215:38
dm8tbrquery --install=bno 2315:39
dm8tbrMerbot: query --install=bno 4215:39
Merbotdm8tbr: Bug https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42 task, Low, ---, marko.saukko, VERIFIED FIXED, TwimGo update15:39
dm8tbrok, so the default here is # is for BMO. on #nemomobile the default is BNO. you can explicitly query with the awkward syntax above.15:40
lbtn?15:41
lbtno n#4215:41
lbtor #4215:41
lbtbug #4215:41
lbtOK, be like that :(15:41
dm8tbrI'd need to hack the python for n#23 matching15:42
dm8tbrat least that's my current understanding15:42
lbtOK15:42
lbtit seemed to ignore me15:42
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lbtor maybe15:42
lbtor maybe  it needs #15515:42
dm8tbrlbt: it has a 300s timeout for repeats15:42
lbtnope - not anti-repeat15:42
dm8tbrbug #15515:42
MerbotBug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155 normal, Undecided, ---, david, RESOLVED FIXED, Enable image uploads15:42
lbt"bug"15:42
dm8tbryes15:43
lbtbug #16615:43
MerbotBug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166 task, Normal, ---, not-taken, RESOLVED FIXED, Investigate automated testing of images15:43
lbtty dm8tbr :)15:43
dm8tbrI can check if I can turn it on to also trigger on #number only15:43
dm8tbrif you need to explicitly query a installation you need to do the weird limbo: Merbot: query --install=bno 4215:44
dm8tbrinstalls are bno and bmo15:44
dm8tbrI need to have a look at the bugzilla plugin though. I have this feeling that it's not the latest and greatest version.15:44
dm8tbrso the situation might improve gradually15:45
dm8tbrok, seems it defaults always to bmo and bno can only be queried as above...15:47
dm8tbrI'll revisit this once the bazaar server of the bugzilla plugin is up again. currently it gives me errors.15:47
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fk_lxhi all16:02
t-loBye guys, I'll call it a day and go here: https://plus.google.com/events/c9ffkptmk6kbjkgn7nb7bh5i1ek/107949128852701224835 Drop in of you happen to live close by.16:04
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dm8tbrlbt: ok the plugin seems completely abandoned for several years. ubuntu seems to maintain a universal plugin for their supybot(s). I'll probably switch to that in the near future.16:05
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kulvewhat I'm missing because I need to run once "depmod -a" after flashing a fresh image made from my .ks?16:17
kulvewith my own kernel package etc.16:17
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kulveStskeeps: that razor-qt looks simple but could still be just perfect for my testing my packages.16:21
kulveI just included the packages from vgrade and it booted up nicely on a first try. Now I just need to find some sort of xterm for it :)16:22
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vgradekulve, xterm can be found on cobs.17:19
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Stskeepswhat's the cheapest android phone you know of?17:21
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dm8tbrthere are a few <100 ($|€)17:22
Stskeepsit'll be interesting to see how far you could really get with libhybris, so17:24
kulvevgrade: yeah, I noticed it was at least in your repos17:25
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Stskeepssometimes you really wonder on vendor's charging implementations..17:28
Stskeeps"yes, we're charging from a charger, let's blow up screen to full brightness and have content on it17:28
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kulvevgrade: what should I include to get some sort of applet for connman for configuring wifi? Assuming something can be found in some Mer armv7l compatible repos17:30
Stskeepsmaybe use scripts?17:34
Stskeepsi think lbt has tutorials17:34
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lbtyes, kulve are they not working ?17:36
kulvescripts work yes, but generally, when you are offering a GUI, the GUI should be usable for general tasks :)17:37
lbtright - so yes, that's UX space17:37
kulveyeah, I added that razor-qt thingie for basic things (hoping it will be enough for them)17:38
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CosmoHillhey vgrade17:43
vgradehi CosmoHill17:45
kulveis meego cobs linked to opensuse obs so that I could branch packages from opensuse to my project?17:47
kulvealthough they do have different naming with the packages..17:48
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kulvewow, looks like my dsp is properly set up after all. At least the gst-launch commands with fake source and sink seems to go through dsp17:59
Stskeepscool17:59
kulveneed to test more later17:59
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jingzheHi, do you know what repository and architecture I should use in obs for N900? can I use armv7el and Mer armv7 hardfp port?18:24
Stskeepsjingzhe: N900 is armv7hl / armv7 hardfp18:25
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jingzhehmm, I will try again.18:27
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kulvedsp encoding works somewhat. I get video but also a lot of memory_regain_ownership and proc_end_dma DMA errors19:00
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shmerlHi!19:32
shmerlI see that mer libraries include boost now. But the version is pretty old (1.39): http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7l/packages/armv7l/19:33
shmerlAre there any plans to ship the newer boost from the repositories?19:33
Stskeepsfile a task bug19:34
shmerlSure.19:34
w00t(and do the update ;-))19:35
shmerlBut if it's in the mer repo, it means that any mer based installation can rely on boost?19:35
shmerlI.e. packages there.19:35
shmerlFor example if Jolla makes their OS, and I want to release something there, I can use boost as dependency?19:36
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shmerlw00t: I can, you'll guide me a bit how to do it :)19:36
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shmerlThe latest version of boost is 1.5019:38
shmerlIt's also a question whether some packages rely on the older one.19:39
shmerlSince there are incompatibilities.19:39
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shmerlSome core changes were in the filesystem library for example, making old code non compilable with the newer boost.19:45
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shmerlThat change happened around 1.40-s, so 1.39 will for sure be affected.19:46
shmerlhttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54519:46
MerbotBug 545: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Upgrade the boost libraries to the latest version (1.50)19:46
jjardonHi, I can download the SDK image, known problem?19:50
jjardoncant*19:50
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shmerlBy the way, about the mer page - it's quite hard to find what packages mer contains looking at the wiki. I.e. one needs to dig to find http://releases.merproject.org/releases19:50
shmerlMay be it worth it to link to the repo somewhere more obviously19:50
Stskeepsgitweb.merproject.org/gitweb -> mer/project-core -> packages.xml19:51
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shmerlI see. Is it linked from the Mer homepage (or wiki) somewhere?19:52
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shmerlMay be it'd good to add these links to Mer Wiki > Resources?19:55
Stskeepsgo ahead19:55
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shmerlOK19:55
shmerlI added links to  Mer releases (binary packages) and Mer packages (sources).20:00
shmerlWhat is the right way of using the SDK by the way. Is it enough to do /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot enter or first one needs to do /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot mount (if machine was rebooted since the last usage)?20:03
shmerlDoing enter only doesn't work properly for me. I have to do mount first.20:04
shmerlBut then I get: This SDK ( /srv/mer/sdks/sdk ) is already mounted.20:04
shmerlIf you are sure this is not an error and /proc/self/mounts has no mountpoints under it then remove /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/.sdkoptions and try again.20:04
shmerlSo usually I just delete /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/.sdkoption each time.20:04
lbthttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Source20:09
lbthttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:About20:09
* jussi waves 20:09
lbto/20:09
shmerlIt's not linked from the main wiki page.20:09
shmerlSo a bit hard to find.20:09
lbtshmerl: fair :)20:09
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lbtAlthough https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page#About_Mer_Technology20:09
shmerlWhile source is quite an important aspect for a FOSS project ;)20:10
shmerlYep, but I wouldn't guess to go into about page to look for source.20:10
shmerlOr at least not until I'll search around the whole main page first.20:11
lbtcomments on making it better are welcome btw - I'm not defending it20:11
shmerlLinks in resources will make it easier to find.20:12
shmerlOr you can for example mention in the "about" paragraph that sources are there.20:12
Rubdos_im on n9 using swype. isrhee20:13
shmerlDid anyone see this error recently? id: cannot find name for group ID 100020:13
shmerlI get it when entering the SDK.20:14
Rubdos_which is not working in English lol20:14
lbtshmerl: you're using the new 602 release - ty :)20:14
shmerlWell, I just did the zypper ref / zypper up :)20:14
lbtyes, it's a warning since it copies in your passwd entry but not your group entry20:14
Rubdos_is there any (planned) open source equivalent? if not, you could implemenr20:15
Rubdos_implement that for Mer?20:15
lbtshmerl: http://pastie.org/455185920:15
Rubdos_or isnt that part for mer project?20:15
lbtneed to commit+push *blush*20:15
lbtRubdos_: that's a UI level interface20:16
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shmerlI see20:16
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lbtRubdos_: most likely something that the Malik guys would do (iirc)20:16
shmerlNice code theme there :)20:16
Rubdos_lbt, malik?20:17
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lbtmaliit20:18
Rubdos_whats that about?20:19
Rubdos_ill google it :p20:19
lbt:) virtual keyb20:19
Rubdos_joined their irc. thanks20:21
shmerlbtw, can one use several targets in the sdk? For example Nemo/N9 and PlasmaActive/Vivaldi?20:23
shmerlI.e. without wiping one to use the other?20:23
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Stskeepsyes, just use multiple sb2 targets20:26
shmerlSo when you want to switch between them you need to repeat the steps with sb2-init?20:28
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lbtshmerl: no, you can specify a target20:29
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shmerlI see: sb2 -t ...20:30
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shmerlThe same way I guess you can update each target with sb2 -t <target> -m sdk-install -R zypper update20:32
lbtyep20:33
shmerlI can add that to the wiki.20:34
lbtshmerl: we probably want a Scratchbox2 page - the platform SDK pages are just meant to offer tasters and link to detailed pages for various commands20:36
shmerlI guess, but that's a common page where users refer for setting up targets.20:37
shmerlIt's good to give an idea there that multiple targets are OK.20:37
shmerlI mean https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB220:37
lbtyeah - but like I say, try to link to an SB2 page with the details20:38
lbtotherwise it ends up being tl;dr;20:38
shmerlOK20:38
shmerlWhat page is for sb2?20:39
lbtmay not be one yet20:39
shmerlI see20:40
lbthmm my raspi isn't happy at 1920x120020:40
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shmerlRomaxa built Firefox OS for the Raspberry Pi.20:51
shmerlhttp://romaxa.info/b2g/20:52
shmerlWhere is the nemo-n950-image.tar.bz2 comes from by the way? The page doesn't mention it.20:55
shmerlI guess it's from http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ ?20:58
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Rubdos_are there plans on a mer phone?21:16
shmerlThe closest one should be from Jolla I guess.21:17
shmerlYou can already run Mer/Nemo on N900 and N9 though.21:17
shmerlI just saw something on Nvidia working on Wayland support for Tegra.21:18
shmerlSo there is some chance that tegra based devices will work with Mer too.21:18
Rubdos_cool. im on n9 right now. is it usable already?21:19
shmerlNemo? Not for me at least, since it lacks an e-mail client.21:19
Rubdos_cool, so you can surf, sms and call?21:20
shmerlYes, though I didn't test how stable it is.21:21
Rubdos_ok.21:21
Rubdos_tip for nemo email client devs: multi smtp support, depending on the network...21:22
shmerlYou can take a look here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing21:22
shmerlI'm not sure if anyone is working on that yet.21:22
Rubdos_3g smtp differs from wifi one, though ill set up a rpi at some point21:23
Rubdos_for private mail serving  ;-)21:23
shmerlWhy would it differ? It's just TCP/IP no?21:24
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Rubdos_my isp only accepts mail in own network, same with mobile isp21:25
shmerlAh, so you can use other SMTP servers. There are plenty of them.21:25
Rubdos_Sorry for quick word usage, im on mobile  :-P21:25
Rubdos_and its too hot  :-P21:26
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Rubdos_what smtp do you use therefore?21:26
shmerlFor example Google's.21:27
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shmerlIf you have gmail account you can use their smtp.21:28
Rubdos_thats gmail only... ive got isps email  :-(21:28
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shmerlWell, if your ISP restricts smtp usage - find another e-mail provider better.21:29
Rubdos_ill setup my own with rpi  :-P and archlinux and postfix21:29
Rubdos_problem is everybody uses that address21:29
shmerlThat would work, except that you'll have to keep it up all the time.21:29
shmerlForwarding would help.21:30
Rubdos_yeh, true21:30
Rubdos_Now got swype English enabled. Makes sense  :-P Much faster21:32
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Rubdos_Trea21:33
Rubdos_sorry  im off, thanks for explanations, bye21:34
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shmerlNow while trying to install Nemo target I get a bunch of errors when doing sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper up22:04
shmerlInstalling: kernel-adaptation-n950-2.6.32.20112201-15.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9 [done]22:04
shmerlInstalling: ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-5.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx [error]22:04
shmerlInstallation of ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-5.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx failed:22:04
shmerl(with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager.22:04
shmerlFailed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager.22:04
shmerlwarning: %post(ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-5.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl) scriptlet failed, exit status 122:04
shmerlFailed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager.22:04
shmerlerror: %preun(ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-4.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl) scriptlet failed, exit status 122:04
shmerlerror: ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-4.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl: erase failed22:04
shmerlAbort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a):22:04
shmerlAny idea?22:05
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sledgespastebin?22:22
* sledges resizes 80x column terminal :)22:23
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sledgesafter brief googling: d-bus installation broken22:25
sledgesre-install? might spit out the same error - vicious circle :)22:25
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