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| Stskeeps | morn harha, Ionakka | 05:16 |
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| Ionakka | Stskeeps, everyone: morning \o/ | 05:17 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach_ | 05:18 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: good morning! on vacation last week, so have not been on line for several days :P | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, vacation is important to have :) | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: in news from here, i have developed a method so mer can use hardware adaptation from android (this does not mean running android applications on mer) | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | so suddenly we can use mer on more devices in future | 05:52 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: use hardware adaptation from android is a large achievement! In fact, one biggest problem we faces is that hardware vendors often provide android SDK and classical linux SDK. and the linux SDK is not suitable to run X11, etc, | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | i have successfully done accelerated graphics on a qualcomm based device, previously unseen in non-android (except for WebOS, which has a big company behind it) | 05:55 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: so, how to do this? I can also test it on my hardware. Now we have the second STB platform, broadcom 7231(MIPS32), and with android gingerbread SDK, | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmm, i'll let you know when i have cleaned up my prototype | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | MIPS + gingerbread should be interesting | 05:58 |
| Bostik | or if boiled down - "what files do I need to lift out of droid SDK and where should I put them?" | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: at the moment, just take /system :P | 05:58 |
| Bostik | eeeeeeeeeeeeewwww | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: and then check what files it uses | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | and clean it up | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: https://github.com/stskeeps/libhybris is btw where i'm doing my cleanup work, not working yet, but it'll get there | 05:59 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: hmm, but you know, gingerbread maybe a little old, now broadcom have ported android4.0.3 to another platform. of course, on bcm7231, no android4.0 at all, | 05:59 |
| Bostik | strace is my friend, strace is my friend, is my friend... | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: we control the linker, just make it dump what it loads | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | as a sstart | 06:00 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: and another thing. In STB field, multimedia can not heavily rely on GST. Some vendors will provide GST plugins, some will provide Statefraight, and some only provides their own player :P | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yeah.. own player is just plain scary :P | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: does the bcm7231 support opengl es by the way? | 06:04 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: anyway, waits for your new hardware adaption method. you know, we can not do pure android :) | 06:05 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, it does, | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so it's probably similar gpu/video chip as in the raspberry pi | 06:05 |
| sonach | ah, raspberry pi, maybe, | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | very nice gpu | 06:06 |
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| Bostik | sonach: the "own player" approach is probably going through OpenMAX, since nobody wants to ship (read: maintain) their own codec acceleration libs :) | 06:10 |
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| timoph | morning | 06:14 |
| sonach | Bostik: maybe no. hisilicon 3716C, doesn't not use OpenMAX, they only provides their own player called hiplayer, and with this supports android's mediaservice, | 06:14 |
| Bostik | oh help | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn timoph | 06:15 |
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| jpoutiai | Sorry for my newb question but I have now followed wiki page https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail and I'm now in the "HACK" part, what's the best way to hack on the package and be able to build it right away? | 06:36 |
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| Ionakka | jpoutiai: if it has git repo you can check that out and obtain rpm packaging files from obs and run rpmbuild under sb2 | 06:38 |
| Ionakka | though not necessarily the "best way" | 06:38 |
| jpoutiai | what if I want to do it locally? and what is the best way?:) | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | osc build as a start | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | does the tutorial mention that? | 06:42 |
| Ionakka | locally == without sb2? | 06:43 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, there's this 'osc build' which is a local build | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | but not as developer friendly as sb2 | 06:44 |
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| timoph | yep. you could only work with osc chroot/build but that's a little awkward | 06:45 |
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| Sage | say what... there is no å in the keyboardlayout on N9 even in the special character pages. Never noted before as I haven't needed the char :) | 07:22 |
| jpoutiai | got BuildService API error: can't verify packages due to lack of GPG keys | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | jpoutiai: --no-verify | 07:25 |
| jpoutiai | that's it thanks :) | 07:25 |
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| jpoutiai | error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/doc/setup-2.8.56/COPYING;5020c488: cpio: open failed - Permission denied | 07:28 |
| jjardon | Stskeeps: Hi. Trying to build qt-gstreamer seems that ll went well but in the end I get this: http://fpaste.org/ij9j/ | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: look at your %files section? | 07:29 |
| jjardon | Stskeeps: this is the .spec Im using: http://fpaste.org/Vor4/ | 07:29 |
| jjardon | ah, ok | 07:30 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: that is the problem with -next at times on setup and filesystem packages obs build fails when touching setup or filesystem | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | okay, why is this the first i've heard ofi t.. | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:36 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I said it multiple times to you earlier | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 07:37 |
| * Stskeeps must have been daft then | 07:37 | |
| Stskeeps | does it happen on x86 or on arm/mips only? | 07:37 |
| Sage | I have no idea why it happens at times. | 07:37 |
| Sage | I think all. | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | so some kind of bad %dir ? | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | jpoutiai: please show me the entire build log, including chroot setup | 07:38 |
| Sage | jpoutiai: do osc build --no-verify --clean once and then continue without --clean | 07:38 |
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| jjardon | Stskeeps: I still get the same error with this .spec: http://fpaste.org/0Oof/ | 07:45 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=519 | 07:45 |
| * Stskeeps +'s | 07:45 | |
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| Sage | jjardon: You should add some * marks there to make the .spec more update friendly | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | good morning denism | 07:47 |
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| Sage | jjardon: e.g. the first package %files could only be like %{_libdir}/libQt*.so.* | 07:48 |
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| Sage | jjardon: and in second you could replace the .so lines with %{_libdir}/libQt*.so | 07:49 |
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| Sage | jjardon: and .pc file lines wit %{_libdir}/pkgconfig/Qt*.pc | 07:49 |
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| jjardon | Sage: thanks, Ill try again with your suggestions | 08:15 |
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| jpoutiai | ok so ive done the osc build now and it seems to have unpacked and build to somewhere. | 08:20 |
| jpoutiai | So now I've got two more newb questions | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | good, it should say where in the last line | 08:20 |
| jpoutiai | 1: how do I make image now(using mic somehow I suppose)? | 08:20 |
| jpoutiai | 2: if I want to edit some .c file (+make and build) how does that happen as the ofono(that's what I'm trying to fiddle with) folder still only contains patchess and tarballs? | 08:21 |
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| alterego | jonwil: ping | 09:54 |
| jonwil | hi | 09:55 |
| alterego | What did you use to disassemble the policy.pl file in Fremantle? | 09:55 |
| jonwil | I cant remember off the top of my head but it was done by passing some specific options to the right version of swi-prolog | 09:56 |
| jonwil | why? | 09:56 |
| alterego | Trying to do something similar :) | 09:56 |
| jonwil | for Fremantle? | 09:57 |
| alterego | Harmattan | 09:57 |
| jonwil | ok | 09:58 |
| jonwil | well firstly you need to compile the right swi-prolog for harmattan | 09:58 |
| jonwil | and get a binary | 09:58 |
| jonwil | but I forget the command line options I used | 09:59 |
| alterego | got it already | 09:59 |
| jonwil | what do you hope to find by peeking into the Harmattan prolog.plc? | 09:59 |
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| jonwil | I mean policy.plc | 09:59 |
| alterego | What did you find when you did it for the N900 :P | 09:59 |
| jonwil | well it was done by me and pali in order to find the jackbias bits | 10:00 |
| jonwil | also do you know how to read prolog code? | 10:01 |
| alterego | a little. | 10:02 |
| alterego | Picking it up as I go along. | 10:02 |
| alterego | Well, I've got swipl, but I can't see anything there for disassembly. | 10:02 |
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| jonwil | I cant remember the exact steps I used | 10:10 |
| jonwil | it involved passing some option to swipl to get it to load the policy.plc file, another option to change the goal or something to drop me at a prolog prompt | 10:11 |
| jonwil | then a bunch of things to dump disassembly of each .pl file inside the plc file one by one | 10:12 |
| jonwil | more than that I cant recall off the top of my head | 10:12 |
| alterego | Okay, I think I get it. | 10:14 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Mer release management meeting in 20 minutes in #mer-meeting | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: tell me what things to kick now that i merged a bunch of stuff | 10:56 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: happen to know if anybody did maliit integration with qml compositor ever? | 10:57 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, we did get it working once | 10:58 |
| mikhas | several month ago | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | oh that's interesting | 10:59 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: did you see my android breakthrough? | 10:59 |
| mikhas | yeah! | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to wayland enable that, probably with qml compositor | 10:59 |
| mikhas | "Are you thinking the same as I do, Pinky?" | 10:59 |
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| lbt | mikhas: oh yes | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, yeah, world domination is the idea | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:00 |
| Bostik | tegra3 GPU, hfp drivers, hybris... | 11:00 |
| RaYmAn | there aren't any hfp android drivers (least not for tegra) :P | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: don't make me clean up your drool | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:00 |
| Bostik | love the name you put on the library, really | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | it is a bit dirty to put bionic and glibc in same memory. | 11:04 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: in immortal words of Woody Allen - "But isn't sex messy?" "Yes, but only when done right." | 11:05 |
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| jonwil | Your work has the potential to allow the running of a full Linux OS on any number of android devices (including devices running on carriers like Verizon where full-Linux devices have never been an option before) | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | provided we have the kernel, yes | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | and can flash own rootfs | 11:07 |
| jonwil | yeah | 11:07 |
| Bostik | ...or boot from external media | 11:07 |
| Bostik | although that's always slower, the bus saturates completely | 11:08 |
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| jonwil | I think the Samsung Galaxy Nexus in all its forms would be a great target for this, its a proper stock android device and has no bootloader locks (at least none that I am aware of) | 11:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: moment | 11:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: pcre is still building (takes long) | 11:10 |
| Sage | xinput-proto got though already | 11:10 |
| Sage | cairo you already did | 11:10 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: qemu needs kick | 11:11 |
| Sage | http://review.merproject.org/652 <- should be rejected already updated. | 11:11 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: after qemu built and accepted then glib2 kick | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:12 |
| Sage | Then everything I was hoping to get in are there. | 11:13 |
| Sage | for the fast release | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:13 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning mdfe_ | 11:15 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: hi :) | 11:16 |
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| Stskeeps | slow day toady :) | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | er, today | 13:09 |
| slow | yes, it is;) | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | oh, you have such an unfortunate nickname | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:09 |
| slow | not really, just get some more hilights than with another nick | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:10 |
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| stefan_schmidt_w | Best nick ever is ":)" | 13:22 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | or lol | 13:22 |
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| slow | :) | 13:28 |
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| lbt | E-P: do you know which packages typically need installing to a device for testing ... eg eat-device, <what else?> | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | openssh-server? | 14:59 |
| lbt | Sage: Stskeeps: phaeron: I'm doing SDK groups so any suggestions | 14:59 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, added that | 14:59 |
| lbt | although I did wonder about SDK groups that mention Core packages... | 15:00 |
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| rsadhu | hello everybody | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | hello rsadhu | 15:02 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://piratepad.net/CU9QUx3ELU | 15:04 |
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| Stskeeps | sp-smaos ? | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | sp-smaps you mean | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | looks about right | 15:05 |
| lbt | qt4 qt5 ? | 15:05 |
| lbt | qtcreator for 5 I think | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes, has to be seperate | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | libqt5-devel doesn't really exist though | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | just drop qt5 mention until we have a saner solution in that area | 15:06 |
| lbt | ok | 15:07 |
| lbt | we may want to make some meta packages in core to assist devel | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:08 |
| lbt | so I can actually install mer-qt5-devel | 15:08 |
| lbt | and then the grouping can be handled inside mer-core... yeah, I like that idea | 15:09 |
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| Sage | lbt: use http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/repomd-pattern-builder.git;a=summary :) | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | hello juriikon :) | 15:17 |
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| lbt | Sage: yaml.composer.ComposerError: expected a single document in the stream | 15:19 |
| juriikon | hi Stskeeps and others :) | 15:19 |
| Sage | lbt: patches welcome :P | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | juriikon: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time | 15:19 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: Sage: why do we have that *and* project-core/scripts/merge-patterns.py ? | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | repomd-pattern-builder is what we shuld use in future | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw | 15:20 |
| * lbt smiles to hide the pain | 15:21 | |
| lbt | oh goody | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | scripts/ is obsolete | 15:21 |
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| lbt | OK - I guess the format is similar | 15:22 |
| Sage | should be very similar just the cmds for creating differ | 15:33 |
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| lbt | yep - looking at the code the same basic patch will work - you even did a similar factor out of the yaml handle in the dir loop | 15:35 |
| Sage | it is based on the old scripts dir of mer which is based on the meego stuff :) | 15:42 |
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| lbt | *nod* I recognise it | 15:42 |
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| lbt | I hope it's just y = yaml.load(stream) => all_docs = yaml.load_all(stream) ... for y in all_docs: | 15:43 |
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| sp3000 | I hope there are no cats on mars. | 16:13 |
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| Stskeeps | sp3000: that would probably make human relations to cats a little less friendly | 16:14 |
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| Stskeeps | seems like i'll actually have a lunchbreak for once | 16:15 |
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| sp3000 | is there some required naming convention to things like scratchbox2-2.3.27-usrsrc.patch, or did the version number appear there for some other reason | 17:33 |
| sp3000 | (e.g. to indicate regression in that version, or whatever) | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | what version it applied to | 17:35 |
| sp3000 | k | 17:36 |
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| * sp3000 gets a blank log from the build checker. awkward. | 18:33 | |
| sp3000 | I guess that's the automated equivalent of a blank stare | 18:33 |
| alterego | Yeah, it's thinking "What /are/ you doing?!" :) | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | sp3000: which url? | 18:38 |
| sp3000 | for http://review.merproject.org/#change,742 | 18:39 |
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| sp3000 | Stskeeps: it's a bit suspicious that the failcomment timestamp for patch set 2 precedes the commit timestamp for 2 | 18:45 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, that's just me needing to kick it | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | don't worry about it, i'll make sure it gets reviewed :) | 18:48 |
| sp3000 | :) | 18:48 |
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| Stskeeps | hello lakaila | 19:30 |
| lakaila | hi | 19:31 |
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| lakaila | wiki.merproject.org seems to be down, should someone be notified or is it already known issue? | 19:33 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 19:34 | |
| Stskeeps | so it looks | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | let me log in | 19:34 |
| lbt | mmm | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: will you check it? | 19:35 |
| lbt | yep | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | lakaila: sorry about that, it really does seem like our monitoring wasn't kidding | 19:35 |
| lbt | yeah - every time I looked it was fine | 19:36 |
| lbt | and now ssh is down | 19:36 |
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| lakaila | Stskeeps: no worries, looks like it will be fixed at some point. thanks for quick response | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | lakaila: any specific info you needed from there? | 19:43 |
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| lakaila | Stskeeps: learning and SDK | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 19:44 |
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| lbt | lakaila: wiki is back up now | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | hello curiosity :) | 19:46 |
| lbt | and leave my cats alone | 19:46 |
| curiosity | hello | 19:46 |
| curiosity | :) | 19:47 |
| lakaila | lbt: thanks | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | curiosity: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) | 19:49 |
| curiosity | Thanks! | 19:49 |
| sp3000 | must get terrible lag ;) | 19:50 |
| curiosity | I searched thru earlier bug infos | 19:50 |
| curiosity | to get familiar what's going on | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: Mer itself can be a bit unsexy until you realize what's going on | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | and that we also do tools for vendors to use, like QA tools and methods | 19:51 |
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| Stskeeps | or image creators, build farm software, etc.. | 19:52 |
| lbt | Sage: how do you want patches for repomd-builder-thingy | 19:54 |
| lbt | I don't have rights to the gitorious repo | 19:55 |
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| lbt | evening phaeron | 19:55 |
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| phaeron | thanks | 19:57 |
| phaeron | lbt: revs2 is ready :) | 19:58 |
| lbt | really! | 19:58 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: what did I do right :D | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: dunno, good work in general | 20:00 |
| lbt | Sage: https://gitorious.org/~lbt/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/lbts-repomd-pattern-builder <-merge please | 20:02 |
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| Sage | lbt: change you could do merge request for those? | 20:10 |
| lbt | gitorious one? | 20:10 |
| Sage | well it is in there ;) | 20:10 |
| lbt | sure - I hate it - no email and it does merges instead of cherry picks | 20:11 |
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| lbt | github ones are massively better :) | 20:12 |
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| Sage | true | 20:12 |
| lbt | https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/repomd-pattern-builder/merge_requests/1 | 20:12 |
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| lbt | and it's like a 5-line patch - rest is whitespace | 20:14 |
| Sage | lbt: that removes "<?xml version="1.0"?>" does obs accept the pattern without? | 20:16 |
| Sage | err.. it adds that | 20:18 |
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| Sage | or hmm... what :) | 20:18 |
| lbt | are you trying to read my patch on gitorious web ui? | 20:18 |
| Sage | nah, tested locally and mixed the -+ in diff :P | 20:19 |
| * Sage needs to sleep a bit :) | 20:19 | |
| lbt | OK | 20:19 |
| lbt | could be xmllint adds it | 20:19 |
| Sage | obs accepts both so seems ok. | 20:20 |
| lbt | yeah - I have tried to erase XML minutae from my memory | 20:20 |
| Sage | merged | 20:20 |
| lbt | ty | 20:25 |
| lbt | and it looks like obs only accepts discrete <pattern> patterns | 20:26 |
| lbt | won't be using that then | 20:27 |
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| Sage | lbt: yes, only one pattern per xml | 20:34 |
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