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| jonwil | Is there a proper way to refer to "the various OSs that use e.g. https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN900 "? Is Mer the project that uses those adaptation bits? (and therefore the right way to refer to this) | 02:34 |
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| laavu | I'm new to this project and was wondering the bugs "X contains timestamps". So, do timestamps in the binary cause OBS rebuilds? | 06:36 |
| laavu | I just wanted to understand the logic behind those error reports | 06:37 |
| phaeron | laavu: yes the timestamps cause the build-compare script to decide that the build results are significant (contain real changes) which then causes packages that depend on it to rebuild | 06:42 |
| laavu | phaeron, thanks, do you have some standard method of overcoming that? replacing those strings in some way? | 06:44 |
| laavu | I think I found it | 06:44 |
| phaeron | the proper way is to fix the source not to do that :) | 06:44 |
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| laavu | ok, there was a hint in a bug to use ""built in OBS, see | 06:45 |
| laavu | rpm -q --info packagename for more information" | 06:45 |
| phaeron | laavu: that suggests what to replace it with | 06:48 |
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| laavu | phaeron, let's say I want to fix a bug and want make a submit request in OBS. Shall I e.g. copypac the original pkg under my home project and when it's ok I do a SR? | 06:58 |
| phaeron | laavu: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Branch | 06:59 |
| phaeron | laavu: this page should have most of the info you need :) | 06:59 |
| laavu | right, hadn't discovered that wiki page yet | 07:00 |
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| jonwil | Is Mer the correct project to refer to when talking about "the thing that took over from MeeGo as a software project for the N900"? | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: well, that's closer to nemo tbh | 07:05 |
| jonwil | well really I am asking which project picks up the n900 binary blobs | 07:05 |
| jonwil | whether its Mer or Nemo that picks that up | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: that's nemo | 07:05 |
| jonwil | ok | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | mer doesn't contain hw adaptation | 07:05 |
| jonwil | ok, sounds like the Nemo mailing list is the right place to go to with my replacements for binary bits :) | 07:06 |
| phaeron | laavu: also https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: the logic is that after a build obs goes in and compares with the previously built rpm. if the rpm differs in certain areas, it causes all dependent packages to rebuild | 07:07 |
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| jonwil | hmmm, which is the right mailing list for nemo anyway? | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | we use mer-general plus [NEMO] prefix | 07:09 |
| jonwil | ok | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | we'll probably move out of mom's basement someday | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: removing the timestamps means it's a lot lighter to really proper integration check things, as most packages will then, on a rebuild, become the same rpm, and not cause more packages to rebuild | 07:11 |
| jonwil | it doesn't look like the mer-general list is particularly high volume | 07:11 |
| jonwil | which is good :) | 07:11 |
| laavu | Stskeeps, thanks, I have used OBS in the past but I was not sure how those dynamic timestamps affect there | 07:12 |
| jonwil | now I just gotta find the subscribe link for the thing | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: yeah, i should really document this behaviour | 07:14 |
| * Stskeeps makes a bug | 07:14 | |
| Stskeeps | i spent a week or two removing timestamps in the meego code when we started mer, and because of that, our infra cost per month is 300 EUR | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | as we don't need a huge build farm, even when doing 7 diffferent ports (armv6,7 softfp/hardfp, i486, atom, mips32) | 07:15 |
| laavu | Stskeeps, should the local OBS build work just fine? I was wondering if it speeds up things when hacking... | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: local obs builds should work fine - but sometimes you want to see your change in context as well | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | we also have some initiatives such as quickbuild to make it much easier to do fast development, like, think 'dpkg-buildpackage' like behaviour inside your source tree | 07:18 |
| laavu | sounds good | 07:20 |
| jonwil | hmmm, is it normal for it to take forever to get a subscribe response when trying to subscribe to the mer mailing list? | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: might be greylisting in progress | 07:24 |
| jonwil | ok | 07:24 |
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| jonwil | my latest work is a clone of the closed-source wl1251-cal tool :) | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:31 |
| * jonwil wonders if there will come a day when it will be possible to run a Nokia N900 without any closed source bits on the user-side at all. I for one intend to do whatever I can to aim towards that goal :P | 07:32 | |
| Stskeeps | the question is rather if there's any alive n900 at that point | 07:32 |
| jonwil | My N900 is going nowhere, I intend to keep using it until such time as it dies and then replace it with something just as good (possibly even another N900 if I can score one). I have yet to see ANY a phone that is as good as the Nokia N900. The GTA04 is nice but no hw keyboard, crappy cellular modem and too expensive. | 07:36 |
| jonwil | The N9 is less open than the N900 and again no hw kbd :) | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but you might have same problem as me.. | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | some jerk stepping over your usb charging cable, and boom, dead usb.. | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:37 |
| jonwil | Thats why I always charge my phone in a position where the cable is behind other things so its not possible to step on it | 07:37 |
| jonwil | and why I never pick up my phone with the cable plugged in | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | i did the same | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | some guy stepped in over it anyway | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:40 |
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| laavu | Stskeeps, I branched a pkg in OBS as instructed in the wiki, but looks like that a lot of build deps are missing, maybe it is still missing a repo? | 07:41 |
| jonwil | Why do phone makers hate hardware keyboards so much? :( | 07:42 |
| laavu | ...or maybe I just didn't setup it right, hmm | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: show me URL to the repo? | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | / project | 07:43 |
| jonwil | still nothing from the mer mailing list, I hope some funky combination of my ISPs mailserver and the mer list anti-spam hasn't caused a failure... L( | 07:43 |
| jonwil | :( | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to bet up front this is the '.' problem.. | 07:44 |
| jonwil | ok, now it works :) | 07:44 |
| laavu | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Ayliklaavu%3Abranches%3AMer.MDS%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: can you try to branch from Mer:fake:Core:armv7hl and see if that works better? | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | just out of curiousity | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | Mer.MDS and Mer:fake is the same | 07:46 |
| laavu | i'll try | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | did you add the repositories manually, btw? | 07:48 |
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| laavu | I did it via the web ui | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | just needed to see if it was done by obs automagic or not | 07:51 |
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| rsadhu | good morning fellows | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | rsadhu: you really should be able to pull build dependencies into your sb2 target | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | for example, sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper install glib2-devel | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | some of these packages are for sure in mer already | 07:53 |
| rsadhu | stskeeps : yes i did | 07:53 |
| rsadhu | but its version is 2.4 | 07:53 |
| rsadhu | 2.0 | 07:53 |
| rsadhu | i mean | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | lists as 2.30.2 to me | 07:54 |
| rsadhu | let me check again | 07:55 |
| rsadhu | i'll be back | 07:56 |
| rsadhu | 2.30.2 | 07:56 |
| rsadhu | you are right | 07:56 |
| rsadhu | when i run sb2 ./configure | 07:57 |
| rsadhu | checking for GLIB - version >= 2.31.2... no | 07:57 |
| rsadhu | i get this error | 07:57 |
| rsadhu | i am building atk | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | firefox requires atk? | 07:58 |
| laavu | Stskeeps, it started building when I branched from Mer:fake:Core:i586 and arch set to i586 | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: ok, it should work with Core:armv7hl too | 07:59 |
| rsadhu | firefox requires gtk which inturn needs atk and atk needs glib | 08:00 |
| laavu | Stskeeps, I guess that'll do when I'm trying to get just started for the very first time here | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | laavu: there's a bug where osc will act really stupid if there's a '.' in the name of the project it branches from | 08:00 |
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| lbt | morning | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | how was tango? | 08:06 |
| lbt | excellent lesson :) | 08:06 |
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| lbt | right ... need to make some git repos on gerrit | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 08:08 |
| lbt | pciutils | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:08 |
| lbt | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/pciutils.git;a=summary | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:12 |
| lbt | to make that I cloned upstream git; cd to it; ran gp_setup --existing --pristine v3.1.7 /mer/obs/cobs/Mer:Tools:Testing/pciutils/ v3.1.7- | 08:15 |
| lbt | 3 | 08:15 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/git-pkg/blob/master/gp_setup | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a bit ill today so i'll be slower than usual | 08:16 |
| lbt | only bother looking at use_existing() https://github.com/lbt/git-pkg/blob/master/gp_setup#L48 | 08:16 |
| lbt | np take it easy then | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | and how do you submit changes to gerrit? | 08:17 |
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| lbt | good question | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | it's the number one question | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:21 |
| lbt | hehe | 08:21 |
| lbt | well, the #1 question is how do we review changes - at the moment that's very hard | 08:21 |
| lbt | we're looking at deltas to patches with no ability to see surrounding code | 08:21 |
| lbt | in Core it's often not a huge deal as the changes are small | 08:22 |
| lbt | in Tools, some of the changes are quite large | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:22 |
| lbt | but, lets see what happens | 08:22 |
| lbt | I deliberately did not update pciutils at this point | 08:23 |
| lbt | it's 3.1.7 as per your SR | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but it's a cycle that we need to go through as well to test | 08:23 |
| lbt | the git tree has 3.1.{8,9,10} tags | 08:23 |
| * Stskeeps sighs and really doesn't want to do an android 2.3 build.. | 08:23 | |
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| Stskeeps | ok, who here can i bribe to do a android 2.3 build? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | i have cookies. | 08:31 |
| lbt | so any notes on it? | 08:34 |
| RaYmAn | what are you working on? (and if you had said ICS or JB, I'd be game ;)) | 08:34 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: 2.3 for what? | 08:42 |
| * dm8tbr probably even still has one kicking around from years ago | 08:42 | |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: well, anything, i need soem gl2 test examples | 08:43 |
| * lbt has a dragonboard which would be nice to use | 08:45 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: can it boot into mer? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's same chip as on my touchpad | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: got a android 2.3 device that you can boot into mer with similar-ish kernel? | 08:45 |
| lbt | not tried yet - I knew that it would have the GL issues so other HA were more useful | 08:45 |
| lbt | now however it's worth looking | 08:46 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: 2.3 with b0rken TS, 4.0 with working mer/plasma image | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i think that could work | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | 2.3 with broken ts that is | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i need the android .ko's for pvr though | 08:47 |
| dm8tbr | let me link you to an image | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: basically what i need you to run is LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./test /system/lib/libEGL.so /system/lib/libui.so .. the code should be pretty near glibc | 08:48 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: http://www.openaos.org/wp-upload/gen7/2012-04-09/ that directory should have all you need | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | so copying in /system | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: could you bring up mer on that device, just boot in, able to ssh in? | 08:49 |
| dm8tbr | yeah booting a minimal image and accessing it over UART is usually no problem | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | alright, that'd help | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | i'll just tar up what i have | 08:49 |
| dm8tbr | you're using some newfangled stuff instead of inittab, right? | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | that is true | 08:50 |
| dm8tbr | I'll probably need a hand then to bind a getty to the right tty | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | what tty name? | 08:52 |
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| dm8tbr | it's been a while. I'll need to recaffeinate. grab all the gear and get in the flow | 08:52 |
| dm8tbr | I can't remember if it's still ttyS2 or already ttyO2, but I think the former | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok, systemd-console-ttyO2 as extra package, i think | 08:55 |
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| dm8tbr | device and uart break-out located. now for a psu | 08:58 |
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| dm8tbr | teehee, still had an ancient Mer 0.16 on it among other images (including meego 1.0) | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:01 |
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| Stskeeps | hello r-A | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: oh, and dont use nemo, just try on meego 1.0 | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | armv7hl vs armv7l | 09:21 |
| r-A | Greetings | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | r-A: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time | 09:25 |
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| laavu | when I have pushed a change to gerrit it will be reviewed (by CI?) and if score is high enough it gets accepted, is it like that? | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | it'll be reviewed automatically for build failures, then manually reviewed by somebody (probably me), and then merged and entered | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process is where we're aiming | 09:51 |
| laavu | right | 09:55 |
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| alterego | Think I might do some 3D printing today. | 10:33 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: I'm packaging an app called "showkey" it's a utility for viewing keycodes or ASCII representation. Should I submit it to a repo when it's done? | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | yes sure, but isn't xev good enough for you? | 11:05 |
| alterego | Couldn't find it in the repos. | 11:05 |
| alterego | I'll probably need both .. | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | EGL context made current \o/ | 11:06 |
| alterego | :) | 11:06 |
| alterego | Awesome! | 11:06 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: nevermind, I'm a bit retarded, showkey is part of kbd which is installed already -_- | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:10 |
| alterego | Anyway, it recognises all the keys fine :) | 11:10 |
| alterego | So next step is loadkeys setup for them to map to media keys. | 11:11 |
| alterego | And finding an appropriate key sym for the call/answer/hangup button. | 11:11 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, can it really be true i can't find a 4-liner hello world for opengl es2 | 11:17 |
| alterego | lol | 11:19 |
| RaYmAn | not exactly four-liner, but glesgears: http://www.khronos.org/message_boards/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1906 | 11:19 |
| alterego | lol | 11:19 |
| RaYmAn | should be possible to quickly rip out the unneeded stuff at least :) | 11:20 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: well, the scancodes are already mapped O_O | 11:22 |
| alterego | Linux reports volume up as volume up, down as down, rewind, play/pause, fast-forward and phone as the dial button. | 11:22 |
| alterego | I don't even have to do anything O_O | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | good | 11:22 |
| alterego | Whomever did ECI was quite cool :) | 11:23 |
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| alterego | .xz? | 11:32 |
| alterego | wtf | 11:32 |
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| Stskeeps | I CAN DRAW RED!!! | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | .. i asked it to draw blue, but who the fuck cares :) | 11:38 |
| Bostik | ah, RGB vs. BGR | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://pastie.org/4388982 | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | succeeds | 11:39 |
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| Stskeeps | paints red on screen | 11:39 |
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| Bostik | holy crap | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | of course the gpu crashes afterwards, but i think that's my fault | 11:41 |
| alterego | That is a monster .. | 11:41 |
| Bostik | that is some serious voodoo you're doing there | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: yes, but it works | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | i'm officially rendering egl/glesv2 from mer, on a qualcomm adreno gpu | 11:42 |
| alterego | I am attempting to build grilo for nemo | 11:42 |
| alterego | :) | 11:42 |
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| alterego | As well as playing with my 3D printer. | 11:42 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: should we ever meet in person, I'd like to buy you a beer | 11:42 |
| alterego | Think I'm gonna go get some lunch now though, bbiab | 11:43 |
| Bostik | because *that* is a major win | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: oh yes. | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | do you want to know why my stuff stalled? | 11:43 |
| Bostik | sure | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | it turns out that each android app has a memory area mapped in at libc startup, shared with the init process | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | which is properties | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | (kinda sysctl like thing, but for userland) | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | i of course wasn't providing anything like that | 11:44 |
| Bostik | ....rrrright | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | wrap the property_get/set apis and things started working | 11:44 |
| Bostik | that was the first thing in your 'droid hackery which actually flew over the cuckoo's nest | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | i'm insane, that's no news | 11:46 |
| Bostik | to quote Dali: "I don't fear insanity. I embrace it." | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: are the people who did the gles qemu integration still around? | 11:49 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/12080004.mp4 | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | that | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | 's color cycling | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | ie, continous eglswapbuffers | 12:12 |
| RaYmAn | that's cool :) | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | no crashes so far | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | 28% cpu usage | 12:17 |
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| sivang | hi all | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | wb | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: see above movie too | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: anyway, next steps is simple.. make a libegl/glesv2 libraries that in the background simply loads an android gles lib | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | and forwards any calls to them | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps even some emulation to make null window cause a android framebuffer window to be made | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | then we have basic eglfs capability for qt5 | 12:23 |
| RaYmAn | that stuff really does seem perfect for a lot of devices :P | 12:27 |
| RaYmAn | how many libs does it rely on now? (from android) - would be neat to only have a minimal set | 12:27 |
| RaYmAn | (well, not perfect, but certainly better than nothing...) | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: http://pastie.org/4389121 | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a little uncertain how libwpa_client got in there. | 12:28 |
| RaYmAn | the wonders of android =P | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | either way, it doesn't matter too much | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | android part is oss | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | we can mangle it as much as we can | 12:30 |
| RaYmAn | it'd just be neat to more or less be able to package it up in a nice .deb or .rpm or similar with a minimal set for the device in question :) | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:31 |
| RaYmAn | though, presumably it prevents hardfp | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | it prevents hardfp but that's another problem | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | still running with no crashes.. | 12:32 |
| RaYmAn | awesome :) | 12:32 |
| alterego | Is that an N950 you're recording on? | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: yes | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | bad quality, i know | 12:37 |
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| alterego | I was just wondering, you seem to have put a sticker in exactly the same place as me. | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | mer sticker | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:37 |
| * sivang wows at discussion related to making Mer run android apps, as it seems :) | 12:37 | |
| Stskeeps | sivang: nop, not that | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: using android hw adaptations in mer | 12:38 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: oh, mine is a sticker with the number and SIM code of the SIM that I'm using in there ;) | 12:39 |
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| sivang | Stskeeps: oh! | 12:41 |
| sivang | like linaro does but with the awesome mer core :) | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: better, linaro has to build theirs for ubuntu | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: we can just use the android ones | 12:42 |
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| sivang | Stskeeps: since we're such a small core? | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: nop, just voodoo | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: either way, suddenly android's advantage of a large amount of android-ready reference devices becomes mer's too | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:44 |
| kaziklubey | the htc hd2 maybe? :) | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | kaziklubey: meant in context of 'stuff that ODMs make' | 12:46 |
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| kaziklubey | ah, ok. nice job anyhow :) | 12:50 |
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| jonwil | still, pretty much everything under the sun has been ported to the HD2 including Jelly Bean | 12:51 |
| jonwil | so Mer being ported to it is not out of the question :P | 12:51 |
| alterego | Ooooo, I'm still getting all the wiki bugs assigned to me :P | 13:00 |
| alterego | There should really be a wiki/infra and a wiki/content category .. | 13:00 |
| alterego | Rather than just "wiki" ... -_- | 13:00 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: :p | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | iekku 's area | 13:03 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: but android's hardware adapation entails for their own kernel, X etc no? (I might be off here as I don't know what the details are) | 13:05 |
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| Bostik | neat | 13:26 |
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| * Venemo_N9 is heading to get an SD card for the raspberry | 14:09 | |
| javispedro | poor lil slow raspberry ;) | 14:10 |
| javispedro | get a class10 one, it kinda helps | 14:11 |
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| Venemo_N9 | javispedro, only found a class 6 one in this shop, meh | 14:26 |
| lbt | try a camera shop | 14:27 |
| Venemo_N9 | good idea | 14:32 |
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| Venemo_N9 | nah, found a class 10 one | 14:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | in a camera shop | 14:47 |
| Venemo_N9 | thx lbt for the tip | 14:47 |
| dm8tbr | the magic is getting a /good/ card for random IO | 14:48 |
| dm8tbr | most cards are optimized for linear access | 14:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | not sure, this is a sandisk one | 14:50 |
| lbt | Venemo_N9: should be extremely quick | 14:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 14:50 |
| lbt | though dm8tbr is right - possibly linear oriented | 14:50 |
| * dm8tbr recommends sakoman's page about cards | 14:51 | |
| Venemo_N9 | I'll survive | 14:51 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: isn't it the market too volatile? | 14:51 |
| dm8tbr | http://www.sakoman.com/OMAP/microsd-card-perfomance-test-results.html | 14:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | I won't be using the pi for such performance demanding stuff | 14:52 |
| dm8tbr | "In performance critical applications you should always test a variety of brands in the intended application environment." | 14:52 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: some known offenders, e.g. never buy kingston, they source at random. but in general only way is to buy and try. | 14:53 |
| dm8tbr | safe choices are usually transcend, sandisk and one I forgot | 14:54 |
| dm8tbr | ah, steve says 'topram', never seen those personally | 14:54 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok | 14:55 |
| * lbt has transcend class 10 which isn't good enough for his DSLR in video mode :( | 14:55 | |
| Venemo_N9 | so we have a wiki page on raspberry pi? | 14:55 |
| dm8tbr | I recently bought a samsung class 10 and not really happy either, but would need thorough testing | 14:55 |
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| Venemo_N9 | nice | 15:09 |
| Venemo_N9 | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 15:09 |
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| jonwil | hmm, I sent a message to mer-general about 1/2 hour ago but I haven't seen that message come through yet | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | jonwil: i saw it | 15:42 |
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| jonwil | yeah, it came through | 15:44 |
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| jonwil | I think its a useful discussion point :) | 15:46 |
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| * alterego still doesn't know what to do with his RaspPi when/if it arrives :) | 16:00 | |
| Stskeeps | alterego: mer, duh | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:00 |
| alterego | Well, obviously | 16:00 |
| alterego | But what kind of an appliance to I want to turn it in to? :) | 16:00 |
| alterego | Maybe smart TV | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:01 |
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| alterego | Either that or IVI | 16:01 |
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| javispedro | I am going to use mine as both wlan<->eth bridge and "smart tv" | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: https://plus.google.com/113386402913695079840/posts/AeWgdNikXBP | 16:03 |
| javispedro | saw your tweet :) | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | good | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: you want to know why it stalled? :P | 16:03 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: what was it at the end? | 16:03 |
| javispedro | yep | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: long story short, android init process passses down a shared memory area with properties in it / kinda like a global env | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: which gets pulled in, in libc init, and naturally under mer, that part is empty | 16:04 |
| javispedro | the zygote stuff? wasn't that for java only' | 16:04 |
| javispedro | ? | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | seems not | 16:04 |
| javispedro | oh. | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | so i made symbol hooks for property_get and property_set and bam, things started working | 16:05 |
| javispedro | ooh | 16:05 |
| javispedro | I know that | 16:05 |
| javispedro | ok :) | 16:05 |
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| Stskeeps | of course i need to make this particular solution a little more generic, but.. | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: http://pastie.org/4388982 | 16:10 |
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| Stskeeps | that was the 'red' demo | 16:10 |
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| Venemo | new roadblock. seems that my sd card reader doesn't work. (or at least doesn't work on Linux | 16:11 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: is android_createDisplaySurface open? | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: yes | 16:12 |
| javispedro | will you be able to integrate it with wayland then? :) | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: it's basically "new FramebufferNativeWindow" | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: that's the long term plan | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | first eglfs for qt5 | 16:12 |
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| javispedro | btw don't tell anyone but XBMC sucks ;P | 16:18 |
| javispedro | here's to hoping we can run some QML-based media center | 16:18 |
| javispedro | (rPI :) ) | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | qtmediahub? | 16:18 |
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: in bizzarest moment of the day though .. http://pastie.org/4389121 | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | spot what doesn't belong there | 16:22 |
| alterego | libnetutils? | 16:23 |
| alterego | Doesn't look like the media remote keys are forwarded to X | 16:23 |
| alterego | Or X doesn't understand them. | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: no, wpa | 16:23 |
| alterego | Heh | 16:23 |
| alterego | What package is xev in ? | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | not sure if it's packaged, just grab it from repo.meego.com/live/ | 16:25 |
| alterego | xorg-x11-utils-xev apparently. | 16:25 |
| alterego | xev doesn't see anything either. | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | xinput | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | grab that instead | 16:28 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: well, I thjought android used wpa supplicant.. | 16:38 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: had to mod the udev configuration and Xorg configuration, but I got it working! | 17:00 |
| alterego | :) | 17:00 |
| * alterego can now make, answer and hangup calls with the headset :D | 17:00 | |
| Stskeeps | alterego: woo | 17:00 |
| alterego | And all the mapping works, all the way to Qt.Key_Phone :D | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | ship it! | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:01 |
| alterego | Just have to find the appropriate packages to patch | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | hw adaptation it sounds like | 17:02 |
| alterego | Yeah, it's all N950 specific stuff it seems. | 17:02 |
| alterego | Need to test on N900 to see if there's anything different there. | 17:03 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: remind me how groups are made | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | .. groups? | 19:10 |
| lbt | for installation | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | package groups? | 19:11 |
| lbt | yes | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | oh, createrepo stage | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | in core, we generate a xml to be made | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's also possible in obs | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | can't recall how though | 19:11 |
| lbt | does nemo use obs? | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: did you see i managed to render on my qualcomm device? | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 19:11 |
| lbt | I did see - very good :) | 19:11 |
| lbt | I've been pushing away at SDK and git-pkg | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | good | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | i thought you were out tonight actually | 19:12 |
| lbt | nah ... just head down | 19:12 |
| lbt | long day | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:12 |
| lbt | I didn't realise there were 2 methods ... been looking at the .yaml groups and trying to figure out how to make createrepo use them | 19:14 |
| ajalkane | This is a nice page for contributing to Mer: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Branch_the_package_to_work_on_it | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | .. but? :P | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: btw, did we fix the '.' issue anywhere? | 19:17 |
| ajalkane | Well, I've done a change, but I can't figure out how to make OBS build an Arm version of the RPM so that I can test it in practice? | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | ajalkane: see /topic | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | building against mer in cobs | 19:18 |
| ajalkane | Thanks | 19:19 |
| ajalkane | hmm i don't understand how that helps. I've followed the "detailed" version of that page, but all I get in OBS is the x86 version. Am I overlooking some simple step? | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | go into the obs project -> project meta | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | hey Stskeeps and lbt | 19:21 |
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| lbt | . issue not fixed, no | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so do we drop Mer.MDS from documentation? | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | or at least find a better name | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | as it causes ramp-up issues | 19:22 |
| ajalkane | Stskeeps: So I just add new <repository> elements to the meta information? | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:23 |
| ajalkane | Ok thanks | 19:23 |
| lbt | sure - making something else makes sense | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | MerMDS? | 19:36 |
| lbt | Mer:MDS would be fine - no idea why I used a . in the first place ... trying to distinguish it as "not a local project" I guess | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | let's look at that tomorrow | 19:38 |
| lbt | I'm there now - I can at least make it | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:38 |
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| lbt | dine | 19:40 |
| lbt | done even | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | i'm going to search-and-replace in contribution in detail | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | done | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | that should make my life easier in the coming weeks | 19:43 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: should the mipsel patterns be python scripts/merge-patterns.py -a arm | 20:10 |
| lbt | -a mips surely? | 20:10 |
| lbt | or maybe it doesn't matter in patterns? | 20:10 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: that's bug but in practice it doesn't matter | 20:15 |
| lbt | ok | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | file it anyway | 20:16 |
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| lbt | fixed - OK to push ? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sure | 20:18 |
| lbt | patterns are too hard | 20:19 |
| lbt | or rather, underdocumented | 20:19 |
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| ajalkane | What's the correct procedure when fixing a bug: should I mark the bug as fixed after pushing the fix, or only after it has been accepted. The page in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail does not specify this detail. | 20:49 |
| lbt | mark it fixed and link to the review | 20:50 |
| ajalkane | Ok, thanks | 20:51 |
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| ajalkane | I'll add that to the wiki also for other n00bs. | 20:51 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks | 20:56 |
| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514 | 20:58 |
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| Venemo | lbt, do you have an idea why 'sb2 qmake' decided to make obscure makefiles? | 21:29 |
| Venemo | it almost feels like as if the host's qmake had been used. | 21:29 |
| Venemo | at least the "No rule to make target `/usr/lib64/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop." error makes me think that | 21:30 |
| Venemo | hm, sorry, the makefile seems to be okay | 21:33 |
| Venemo | but then why am I getting this error? | 21:33 |
| Venemo | interesting. | 21:34 |
| Venemo | deleting all makefiles manually and then running qmake again fixed the problem | 21:34 |
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