Saturday, 2012-08-04

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jonwilIs there a proper way to refer to "the various OSs that use e.g. https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN900 "? Is Mer the project that uses those adaptation bits? (and therefore the right way to refer to this)02:34
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laavuI'm new to this project and was wondering the bugs "X contains timestamps". So, do timestamps in the binary cause OBS rebuilds?06:36
laavuI just wanted to understand the logic behind those error reports06:37
phaeronlaavu: yes the timestamps cause the build-compare script to decide that the build results are significant (contain real changes) which then causes packages that depend on it to rebuild06:42
laavuphaeron, thanks, do you have some standard method of overcoming that? replacing those strings in some way?06:44
laavuI think I found it06:44
phaeronthe proper way is to fix the source not to do that :)06:44
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laavuok, there was a hint in a bug to use ""built in OBS, see06:45
laavurpm -q --info packagename for more information"06:45
phaeronlaavu: that suggests what to replace it with06:48
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laavuphaeron, let's say I want to fix a bug and want make a submit request in OBS. Shall I e.g. copypac the original pkg under my home project and when it's ok I do a SR?06:58
phaeronlaavu: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Branch06:59
phaeronlaavu: this page should have most of the info you need :)06:59
laavuright, hadn't discovered that wiki page yet07:00
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jonwilIs Mer the correct project to refer to when talking about "the thing that took over from MeeGo as a software project for the N900"?07:04
Stskeepsjonwil: well, that's closer to nemo tbh07:05
jonwilwell really I am asking which project picks up the n900 binary blobs07:05
jonwilwhether its Mer or Nemo that picks that up07:05
Stskeepsjonwil: that's nemo07:05
jonwilok07:05
Stskeepsmer doesn't contain hw adaptation07:05
jonwilok, sounds like the Nemo mailing list is the right place to go to with my replacements for binary bits :)07:06
phaeronlaavu: also  https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution07:06
Stskeepslaavu: the logic is that after a build obs goes in and compares with the previously built rpm. if the rpm differs in certain areas, it causes all dependent packages to rebuild07:07
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jonwilhmmm, which is the right mailing list for nemo anyway?07:09
Stskeepswe use mer-general plus [NEMO] prefix07:09
jonwilok07:09
Stskeepswe'll probably move out of mom's basement someday07:09
Stskeepslaavu: removing the timestamps means it's a lot lighter to really proper integration check things, as most packages will then, on a rebuild, become the same rpm, and not cause more packages to rebuild07:11
jonwilit doesn't look like the mer-general list is particularly high volume07:11
jonwilwhich is good :)07:11
laavuStskeeps, thanks, I have used OBS in the past but I was not sure how those dynamic timestamps affect there07:12
jonwilnow I just gotta find the subscribe link for the thing07:12
Stskeepslaavu: yeah, i should really document this behaviour07:14
* Stskeeps makes a bug07:14
Stskeepsi spent a week or two removing timestamps in the meego code when we started mer, and because of that, our infra cost per month is 300 EUR07:14
Stskeepsas we don't need a huge build farm, even when doing 7 diffferent ports (armv6,7 softfp/hardfp, i486, atom, mips32)07:15
laavuStskeeps, should the local OBS build work just fine? I was wondering if it speeds up things when hacking...07:17
Stskeepslaavu: local obs builds should work fine - but sometimes you want to see your change in context as well07:18
Stskeepswe also have some initiatives such as quickbuild to make it much easier to do fast development, like, think 'dpkg-buildpackage' like behaviour inside your source tree07:18
laavusounds good07:20
jonwilhmmm, is it normal for it to take forever to get a subscribe response when trying to subscribe to the mer mailing list?07:23
Stskeepsjonwil: might be greylisting in progress07:24
jonwilok07:24
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jonwilmy latest work is a clone of the closed-source wl1251-cal tool :)07:26
Stskeepsok07:31
* jonwil wonders if there will come a day when it will be possible to run a Nokia N900 without any closed source bits on the user-side at all. I for one intend to do whatever I can to aim towards that goal :P07:32
Stskeepsthe question is rather if there's any alive n900 at that point07:32
jonwilMy N900 is going nowhere, I intend to keep using it until such time as it dies and then replace it with something just as good (possibly even another N900 if I can score one). I have yet to see ANY a phone that is as good as the Nokia N900. The GTA04 is nice but no hw keyboard, crappy cellular modem and too expensive.07:36
jonwilThe N9 is less open than the N900 and again no hw kbd :)07:36
Stskeepsyeah, but you might have same problem as me..07:36
Stskeepssome jerk stepping over your usb charging cable, and boom, dead usb..07:37
Stskeeps:P07:37
jonwilThats why I always charge my phone in a position where the cable is behind other things so its not possible to step on it07:37
jonwiland why I never pick up my phone with the cable plugged in07:38
Stskeepsi did the same07:40
Stskeepssome guy stepped in over it anyway07:40
Stskeeps:P07:40
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laavuStskeeps, I branched a pkg in OBS as instructed in the wiki, but looks like that a lot of build deps are missing, maybe it is still missing a repo?07:41
jonwilWhy do phone makers hate hardware keyboards so much? :(07:42
laavu...or maybe I just didn't setup it right, hmm07:43
Stskeepslaavu: show me URL to the repo?07:43
Stskeeps / project07:43
jonwilstill nothing from the mer mailing list, I hope some funky combination of my ISPs mailserver and the mer list anti-spam hasn't caused a failure... L(07:43
jonwil:(07:43
Stskeepsi'd like to bet up front this is the '.' problem..07:44
jonwilok, now it works :)07:44
laavuhttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Ayliklaavu%3Abranches%3AMer.MDS%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl07:45
Stskeepslaavu: can you try to branch from Mer:fake:Core:armv7hl and see if that works better?07:46
Stskeepsjust out of curiousity07:46
StskeepsMer.MDS and Mer:fake is the same07:46
laavui'll try07:47
Stskeepsdid you add the repositories manually, btw?07:48
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laavuI did it via the web ui07:49
Stskeepsah, ok07:50
Stskeepsjust needed to see if it was done by obs automagic or not07:51
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rsadhugood morning fellows07:51
Stskeepsmorn07:52
Stskeepsrsadhu: you really should be able to pull build dependencies into your sb2 target07:52
Stskeepsfor example, sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper install glib2-devel07:52
Stskeepssome of these packages are for sure in mer already07:53
rsadhustskeeps :  yes i did07:53
rsadhubut its version is 2.407:53
rsadhu2.007:53
rsadhui mean07:54
Stskeepslists as 2.30.2 to me07:54
rsadhulet me check again07:55
rsadhui'll be back07:56
rsadhu 2.30.207:56
rsadhuyou are right07:56
rsadhuwhen i run sb2 ./configure07:57
rsadhuchecking for GLIB - version >= 2.31.2... no07:57
rsadhui get this error07:57
rsadhui am building atk07:57
Stskeepsfirefox requires atk?07:58
laavuStskeeps, it started building when I branched from Mer:fake:Core:i586 and arch set to i58607:58
Stskeepslaavu: ok, it should work with Core:armv7hl too07:59
rsadhufirefox requires gtk which inturn needs atk and atk needs glib08:00
laavuStskeeps, I guess that'll do when I'm trying to get just started for the very first time here08:00
Stskeepsyes08:00
Stskeepslaavu: there's a bug where osc will act really stupid if there's a '.' in the name of the project it branches from08:00
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lbtmorning08:05
Stskeepsmorn lbt08:06
Stskeepshow was tango?08:06
lbtexcellent lesson :)08:06
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lbtright ... need to make some git repos on gerrit08:08
Stskeepsoh?08:08
lbtpciutils08:08
Stskeepsok08:08
lbthttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/pciutils.git;a=summary08:11
Stskeepsok08:12
lbtto make that I cloned upstream git; cd to it; ran           gp_setup --existing --pristine v3.1.7 /mer/obs/cobs/Mer:Tools:Testing/pciutils/ v3.1.7-08:15
lbt308:15
lbthttps://github.com/lbt/git-pkg/blob/master/gp_setup08:16
Stskeepsi'm a bit ill today so i'll be slower than usual08:16
lbtonly bother looking at use_existing() https://github.com/lbt/git-pkg/blob/master/gp_setup#L4808:16
lbtnp take it easy then08:17
Stskeepsand how do you submit changes to gerrit?08:17
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lbtgood question08:20
Stskeepsit's the number one question08:21
Stskeeps:P08:21
lbthehe08:21
lbtwell, the #1 question is how do we review changes - at the moment that's very hard08:21
lbtwe're looking at deltas to patches with no ability to see surrounding code08:21
lbtin Core it's often not a huge deal as the changes are small08:22
lbtin Tools, some of the changes are quite large08:22
Stskeeps:nod:08:22
lbtbut, lets see what happens08:22
lbtI deliberately did not update pciutils at this point08:23
lbtit's 3.1.7 as per your SR08:23
Stskeepsyes, but it's a cycle that we need to go through as well to test08:23
lbtthe git tree has 3.1.{8,9,10} tags08:23
* Stskeeps sighs and really doesn't want to do an android 2.3 build..08:23
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Stskeepsok, who here can i bribe to do a android 2.3 build?08:31
Stskeeps:P08:31
Stskeepsi have cookies.08:31
lbtso any notes on it?08:34
RaYmAnwhat are you working on? (and if you had said ICS or JB, I'd be game ;))08:34
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dm8tbrStskeeps: 2.3 for what?08:42
* dm8tbr probably even still has one kicking around from years ago08:42
Stskeepsdm8tbr: well, anything, i need soem gl2 test examples08:43
* lbt has a dragonboard which would be nice to use08:45
Stskeepslbt: can it boot into mer?08:45
Stskeepsi think it's same chip as on my touchpad08:45
Stskeepsdm8tbr: got a android 2.3 device that you can boot into mer with similar-ish kernel?08:45
lbtnot tried yet - I knew that it would have the GL issues so other HA were more useful08:45
lbtnow however it's worth looking08:46
dm8tbrStskeeps: 2.3 with b0rken TS, 4.0 with working mer/plasma image08:46
Stskeepsdm8tbr: i think that could work08:46
Stskeeps2.3 with broken ts that is08:46
Stskeepsdm8tbr: i need the android .ko's for pvr though08:47
dm8tbrlet me link you to an image08:47
Stskeepsdm8tbr: basically what i need you to run is LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./test /system/lib/libEGL.so /system/lib/libui.so .. the code should be pretty near glibc08:48
dm8tbrStskeeps: http://www.openaos.org/wp-upload/gen7/2012-04-09/ that directory should have all you need08:48
Stskeepsso copying in /system08:48
Stskeepsdm8tbr: could you bring up mer on that device, just boot in, able to ssh in?08:49
dm8tbryeah booting a minimal image and accessing it over UART is usually no problem08:49
Stskeepsalright, that'd help08:49
Stskeepsi'll just tar up what i have08:49
dm8tbryou're using some newfangled stuff instead of inittab, right?08:50
Stskeepsthat is true08:50
dm8tbrI'll probably need a hand then to bind a getty to the right tty08:50
Stskeepswhat tty name?08:52
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dm8tbrit's been a while. I'll need to recaffeinate. grab all the gear and get in the flow08:52
dm8tbrI can't remember if it's still ttyS2 or already ttyO2, but I think the former08:54
Stskeepsok, systemd-console-ttyO2 as extra package, i think08:55
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dm8tbrdevice and uart break-out located. now for a psu08:58
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dm8tbrteehee, still had an ancient Mer 0.16 on it among other images (including meego 1.0)09:01
Stskeepshehe09:01
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Stskeepshello r-A09:18
Stskeepsdm8tbr: oh, and dont use nemo, just try on meego 1.009:21
Stskeepsarmv7hl vs armv7l09:21
r-AGreetings09:22
Stskeepsr-A: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time09:25
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laavuwhen I have pushed a change to gerrit it will be reviewed (by CI?) and if score is high enough it gets accepted, is it like that?09:50
Stskeepsit'll be reviewed automatically for build failures, then manually reviewed by somebody (probably me), and then merged and entered09:51
Stskeepswiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process is where we're aiming09:51
laavuright09:55
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alteregoThink I might do some 3D printing today.10:33
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alteregoStskeeps: I'm packaging an app called "showkey" it's a utility for viewing keycodes or ASCII representation. Should I submit it to a repo when it's done?11:05
Stskeepsyes sure, but isn't xev good enough for you?11:05
alteregoCouldn't find it in the repos.11:05
alteregoI'll probably need both ..11:05
Stskeepswoo11:06
StskeepsEGL context made current \o/11:06
alterego:)11:06
alteregoAwesome!11:06
alteregoStskeeps: nevermind, I'm a bit retarded, showkey is part of kbd which is installed already -_-11:09
Stskeepshehe11:10
alteregoAnyway, it recognises all the keys fine :)11:10
alteregoSo next step is loadkeys setup for them to map to media keys.11:11
alteregoAnd finding an appropriate key sym for the call/answer/hangup button.11:11
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Stskeepsok, can it really be true i can't find a 4-liner hello world for opengl es211:17
alteregolol11:19
RaYmAnnot exactly four-liner, but glesgears: http://www.khronos.org/message_boards/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=190611:19
alteregolol11:19
RaYmAnshould be possible to quickly rip out the unneeded stuff at least :)11:20
alteregoStskeeps: well, the scancodes are already mapped O_O11:22
alteregoLinux reports volume up as volume up, down as down, rewind, play/pause, fast-forward and phone as the dial button.11:22
alteregoI don't even have to do anything O_O11:22
Stskeepsgood11:22
alteregoWhomever did ECI was quite cool :)11:23
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alterego.xz?11:32
alteregowtf11:32
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StskeepsI CAN DRAW RED!!!11:38
Stskeeps.. i asked it to draw blue, but who the fuck cares :)11:38
Bostikah, RGB vs. BGR11:38
StskeepsBostik: http://pastie.org/438898211:39
Stskeepssucceeds11:39
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Stskeepspaints red on screen11:39
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Bostikholy crap11:40
Stskeepsof course the gpu crashes afterwards, but i think that's my fault11:41
alteregoThat is a monster ..11:41
Bostikthat is some serious voodoo you're doing there11:41
StskeepsBostik: yes, but it works11:42
Stskeepsi'm officially rendering egl/glesv2 from mer, on a qualcomm adreno gpu11:42
alteregoI am attempting to build grilo for nemo11:42
alterego:)11:42
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alteregoAs well as playing with my 3D printer.11:42
BostikStskeeps: should we ever meet in person, I'd like to buy you a beer11:42
alteregoThink I'm gonna go get some lunch now though, bbiab11:43
Bostikbecause *that* is a major win11:43
StskeepsBostik: oh yes.11:43
Stskeepsdo you want to know why my stuff stalled?11:43
Bostiksure11:44
Stskeepsit turns out that each android app has a memory area mapped in at libc startup, shared with the init process11:44
Stskeepswhich is properties11:44
Stskeeps(kinda sysctl like thing, but for userland)11:44
Stskeepsi of course wasn't providing anything like that11:44
Bostik....rrrright11:44
Stskeepswrap the property_get/set apis and things started working11:44
Bostikthat was the first thing in your 'droid hackery which actually flew over the cuckoo's nest11:45
Stskeepsi'm insane, that's no news11:46
Bostikto quote Dali: "I don't fear insanity. I embrace it."11:48
StskeepsBostik: are the people who did the gles qemu integration still around?11:49
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StskeepsBostik: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/12080004.mp412:12
Stskeepsthat12:12
Stskeeps's color cycling12:12
Stskeepsie, continous eglswapbuffers12:12
RaYmAnthat's cool :)12:15
Stskeepsno crashes so far12:16
Stskeeps28% cpu usage12:17
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sivanghi all12:17
Stskeepswb12:17
StskeepsJake9xx: see above movie too12:17
StskeepsBostik: anyway, next steps is simple.. make a libegl/glesv2 libraries that in the background simply loads an android gles lib12:21
Stskeepsand forwards any calls to them12:21
Stskeepsperhaps even some emulation to make null window cause a android framebuffer window to be made12:22
Stskeepsthen we have basic eglfs capability for qt512:23
RaYmAnthat stuff really does seem perfect for a lot of devices :P12:27
RaYmAnhow many libs does it rely on now? (from android) - would be neat to only have a minimal set12:27
RaYmAn(well, not perfect, but certainly better than nothing...)12:28
StskeepsRaYmAn: http://pastie.org/438912112:28
Stskeepsi'm a little uncertain how libwpa_client got in there.12:28
RaYmAnthe wonders of android =P12:30
Stskeepseither way, it doesn't matter too much12:30
Stskeepsandroid part is oss12:30
Stskeepswe can mangle it as much as we can12:30
RaYmAnit'd just be neat to more or less be able to package it up in a nice .deb or .rpm or similar with a minimal set for the device in question :)12:31
Stskeepsyeah12:31
RaYmAnthough, presumably it prevents hardfp12:31
Stskeepsit prevents hardfp but that's another problem12:31
Stskeepsstill running with no crashes..12:32
RaYmAnawesome :)12:32
alteregoIs that an N950 you're recording on?12:36
Stskeepsalterego: yes12:37
Stskeepsbad quality, i know12:37
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alteregoI was just wondering, you seem to have put a sticker in exactly the same place as me.12:37
Stskeepshehe12:37
Stskeepsmer sticker12:37
Stskeeps:P12:37
* sivang wows at discussion related to making Mer run android apps, as it seems :)12:37
Stskeepssivang: nop, not that12:38
Stskeepssivang: using android hw adaptations in mer12:38
alteregoStskeeps: oh, mine is a sticker with the number and SIM code of the SIM that I'm using in there ;)12:39
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sivangStskeeps: oh!12:41
sivanglike linaro does but with the awesome mer core :)12:41
Stskeepssivang: better, linaro has to build theirs for ubuntu12:41
Stskeepssivang: we can just use the android ones12:42
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sivangStskeeps: since we're such a small core?12:44
Stskeepssivang: nop, just voodoo12:44
Stskeepssivang: either way, suddenly android's advantage of a large amount of android-ready reference devices becomes mer's too12:44
Stskeeps:P12:44
kaziklubeythe htc hd2 maybe? :)12:46
Stskeepskaziklubey: meant in context of 'stuff that ODMs make'12:46
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kaziklubeyah, ok. nice job anyhow :)12:50
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jonwilstill, pretty much everything under the sun has been ported to the HD2 including Jelly Bean12:51
jonwilso Mer being ported to it is not out of the question :P12:51
alteregoOoooo, I'm still getting all the wiki bugs assigned to me :P13:00
alteregoThere should really be a wiki/infra and a wiki/content category ..13:00
alteregoRather than just "wiki" ... -_-13:00
sivangStskeeps: :p13:02
Stskeepsiekku 's area13:03
sivangStskeeps: but android's hardware adapation entails for their own kernel, X etc no? (I might be off here as I don't know what the details are)13:05
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Bostikneat13:26
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* Venemo_N9 is heading to get an SD card for the raspberry14:09
javispedropoor lil slow raspberry ;)14:10
javispedroget a class10 one, it kinda helps14:11
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Venemo_N9javispedro, only found a class 6 one in this shop, meh14:26
lbttry a camera shop14:27
Venemo_N9good idea14:32
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Venemo_N9nah, found a class 10 one14:46
Venemo_N9in a camera shop14:47
Venemo_N9thx lbt for the tip14:47
dm8tbrthe magic is getting a /good/ card for random IO14:48
dm8tbrmost cards are optimized for linear access14:49
Venemo_N9not sure, this is a sandisk one14:50
lbtVenemo_N9: should be extremely quick14:50
Venemo_N9:)14:50
lbtthough dm8tbr is right - possibly linear oriented14:50
* dm8tbr recommends sakoman's page about cards14:51
Venemo_N9I'll survive14:51
lbtdm8tbr: isn't it the market too volatile?14:51
dm8tbrhttp://www.sakoman.com/OMAP/microsd-card-perfomance-test-results.html14:51
Venemo_N9I won't be using the pi for such performance demanding stuff14:52
dm8tbr"In performance critical applications you should always test a variety of brands in the intended application environment."14:52
dm8tbrlbt: some known offenders, e.g. never buy kingston, they source at random. but in general only way is to buy and try.14:53
dm8tbrsafe choices are usually transcend, sandisk and one I forgot14:54
dm8tbrah, steve says 'topram', never seen those personally14:54
Venemo_N9ok14:55
* lbt has transcend class 10 which isn't good enough for his DSLR in video mode :(14:55
Venemo_N9so we have a wiki page on raspberry pi?14:55
dm8tbrI recently bought a samsung class 10 and not really happy either, but would need thorough testing14:55
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Venemo_N9nice15:09
Venemo_N9https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi15:09
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jonwilhmm, I sent a message to mer-general about 1/2 hour ago but I haven't seen that message come through yet15:16
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Stskeepsjonwil: i saw it15:42
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jonwilyeah, it came through15:44
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jonwilI think its a useful discussion point :)15:46
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* alterego still doesn't know what to do with his RaspPi when/if it arrives :)16:00
Stskeepsalterego: mer, duh16:00
Stskeeps:P16:00
alteregoWell, obviously16:00
alteregoBut what kind of an appliance to I want to turn it in to? :)16:00
alteregoMaybe smart TV16:00
Stskeeps:nod:16:01
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alteregoEither that or IVI16:01
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javispedroI am going to use mine as both wlan<->eth bridge and "smart tv"16:03
Stskeepsjavispedro: https://plus.google.com/113386402913695079840/posts/AeWgdNikXBP16:03
javispedrosaw your tweet :)16:03
Stskeepsgood16:03
Stskeepsjavispedro: you want to know why it stalled? :P16:03
javispedroStskeeps: what was it at the end?16:03
javispedroyep16:03
Stskeepsjavispedro: long story short, android init process passses down a shared memory area with properties in it / kinda like a global env16:04
Stskeepsjavispedro: which gets pulled in, in libc init, and naturally under mer, that part is empty16:04
javispedrothe zygote stuff? wasn't that for java only'16:04
javispedro?16:04
Stskeepsseems not16:04
javispedrooh.16:04
Stskeepsso i made symbol hooks for property_get and property_set and bam, things started working16:05
javispedroooh16:05
javispedroI know that16:05
javispedrook :)16:05
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Stskeepsof course i need to make this particular solution a little more generic, but..16:07
Stskeepsjavispedro: http://pastie.org/438898216:10
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Stskeepsthat was the 'red' demo16:10
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Venemonew roadblock. seems that my sd card reader doesn't work. (or at least doesn't work on Linux16:11
javispedroStskeeps: is android_createDisplaySurface open?16:12
Stskeepsjavispedro: yes16:12
javispedrowill you be able to integrate it with wayland then? :)16:12
Stskeepsjavispedro: it's basically "new FramebufferNativeWindow"16:12
Stskeepsjavispedro: that's the long term plan16:12
Stskeepsfirst eglfs for qt516:12
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javispedrobtw don't tell anyone but XBMC sucks ;P16:18
javispedrohere's to hoping we can run some QML-based media center16:18
javispedro(rPI :) )16:18
Stskeepsqtmediahub?16:18
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Stskeepsjavispedro: in bizzarest moment of the day though .. http://pastie.org/438912116:21
Stskeepsspot what doesn't belong there16:22
alteregolibnetutils?16:23
alteregoDoesn't look like the media remote keys are forwarded to X16:23
alteregoOr X doesn't understand them.16:23
Stskeepsalterego: no, wpa16:23
alteregoHeh16:23
alteregoWhat package is xev in ?16:25
Stskeepsnot sure if it's packaged, just grab it from repo.meego.com/live/16:25
alteregoxorg-x11-utils-xev apparently.16:25
alteregoxev doesn't see anything either.16:28
Stskeepsxinput16:28
Stskeepsgrab that instead16:28
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javispedroStskeeps: well, I thjought android used wpa supplicant..16:38
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alteregoStskeeps: had to mod the udev configuration and Xorg configuration, but I got it working!17:00
alterego:)17:00
* alterego can now make, answer and hangup calls with the headset :D17:00
Stskeepsalterego: woo17:00
alteregoAnd all the mapping works, all the way to Qt.Key_Phone :D17:01
Stskeepsship it!17:01
Stskeeps:P17:01
alteregoJust have to find the appropriate packages to patch17:02
Stskeepshw adaptation it sounds like17:02
alteregoYeah, it's all N950 specific stuff it seems.17:02
alteregoNeed to test on N900 to see if there's anything different there.17:03
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lbtStskeeps: remind me how groups are made19:10
Stskeeps.. groups?19:10
lbtfor installation19:10
Stskeepspackage groups?19:11
lbtyes19:11
Stskeepsoh, createrepo stage19:11
Stskeepsin core, we generate a xml to be made19:11
Stskeepsit's also possible in obs19:11
Stskeepscan't recall how though19:11
lbtdoes nemo use obs?19:11
Stskeepslbt: did you see i managed to render on my qualcomm device?19:11
Stskeepsyes19:11
lbtI did see - very good :)19:11
lbtI've been pushing away at SDK and git-pkg19:12
Stskeepsgood19:12
Stskeepsi thought you were out tonight actually19:12
lbtnah ... just head down19:12
lbtlong day19:12
Stskeeps:nod:19:12
lbtI didn't realise there were 2 methods ... been looking at the .yaml groups and trying to figure out how to make createrepo use them19:14
ajalkaneThis is a nice page for contributing to Mer: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Branch_the_package_to_work_on_it19:17
Stskeeps.. but? :P19:17
Stskeepslbt: btw, did we fix the '.' issue anywhere?19:17
ajalkaneWell, I've done a change, but I can't figure out how to make OBS build an Arm version of the RPM so that I can test it in practice?19:18
Stskeepsajalkane: see /topic19:18
Stskeepserr..19:18
Stskeepsyes19:18
Stskeepsbuilding against mer in cobs19:18
ajalkaneThanks19:19
ajalkanehmm i don't understand how that helps. I've followed the "detailed" version of that page, but all I get in OBS is the x86 version. Am I overlooking some simple step?19:20
Stskeepsgo into the obs project -> project meta19:20
CosmoHillhey Stskeeps and lbt19:21
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lbt. issue not fixed, no19:21
Stskeepsok19:21
Stskeepslbt: so do we drop Mer.MDS from documentation?19:21
Stskeepsor at least find a better name19:22
Stskeepsas it causes ramp-up issues19:22
ajalkaneStskeeps: So I just add new <repository> elements to the meta information?19:23
Stskeepsyeah19:23
ajalkaneOk thanks19:23
lbtsure - making something else makes sense19:36
StskeepsMerMDS?19:36
lbtMer:MDS would be fine - no idea why I used a . in the first place ... trying to distinguish it as "not a local project" I guess19:37
Stskeepsok19:38
Stskeepslet's look at that tomorrow19:38
lbtI'm there now - I can at least make it19:38
Stskeepsok19:38
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lbtdine19:40
lbtdone even19:40
Stskeepsok19:40
Stskeepsi'm going to search-and-replace in contribution in detail19:41
Stskeepsdone19:43
Stskeepsthat should make my life easier in the coming weeks19:43
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lbtStskeeps: should the mipsel patterns be python scripts/merge-patterns.py -a arm20:10
lbt-a mips surely?20:10
lbtor maybe it doesn't matter in patterns?20:10
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Stskeepslbt: that's bug but in practice it doesn't matter20:15
lbtok20:16
Stskeepsfile it anyway20:16
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lbtfixed - OK to push ?20:18
Stskeepsyeah, sure20:18
lbtpatterns are too hard20:19
lbtor rather, underdocumented20:19
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ajalkaneWhat's the correct procedure when fixing a bug: should I mark the bug as fixed after pushing the fix, or only after it has been accepted. The page in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail does not specify this detail.20:49
lbtmark it fixed and link to the review20:50
ajalkaneOk, thanks20:51
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ajalkaneI'll add that to the wiki also for other n00bs.20:51
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Stskeepsthanks20:56
lbthttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51420:58
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Venemolbt, do you have an idea why 'sb2 qmake' decided to make obscure makefiles?21:29
Venemoit almost feels like as if the host's qmake had been used.21:29
Venemoat least the "No rule to make target `/usr/lib64/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop." error makes me think that21:30
Venemohm, sorry, the makefile seems to be okay21:33
Venemobut then why am I getting this error?21:33
Venemointeresting.21:34
Venemodeleting all makefiles manually and then running qmake again fixed the problem21:34
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