Thursday, 2012-08-02

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Stskeepsmorn04:45
kyyberimorn05:02
Stskeepskyyberi: how's stuff?05:04
kyyberiStskeeps: pretty good :) How about yours?05:04
Stskeepspretty okay.. we finaly have something that looks like a stable mer prerelease05:05
kyyberiyeah, I saw the message05:05
Stskeepswhich has been a bit too much of a battle05:06
kyyberiwell, life/development is sometimes :)05:07
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kyyberiI seem to have won my own battle with making first somewhat working gem skeleton for MeetMer. Have to test it more, but looks promising05:09
Stskeeps:nod:05:09
dm8tbrmoaning05:10
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Stskeepsgood morning Ionakka05:29
E-Pmorning all o/05:29
Stskeepsmorn E-P :)05:30
StskeepsE-P: in terms of QA coolness, phaeron ran VM-based smoke testing against a mer prerelease last night, with upload to a qa-reports instance too05:30
E-PStskeeps: uh, that is great05:31
Stskeepsso things are moving along quite nicely05:32
IonakkaStskeeps, E-P: morning \o/05:32
E-Pyep, adding more tests and hopefully soon also more hw to smoke testing05:32
Stskeepsyeah, phaeron has got a phost of his own for at least vm based testing05:33
Stskeepsso we can catch stupid issues early05:33
E-PI try to execute some tests for prerelease i486 too today05:33
Stskeeps:nod:05:33
Stskeepsplease remember to make task bugs, it's useful for newcomers if they want to approach mer QA as well :)05:35
Stskeepseven the smallest jobs05:35
E-Pnod05:37
E-Pbtw, is the qa-reports public or only for testing purposes?05:37
Stskeepsthis was just a testing purpose one, i'll let iamer pass on rest of info himself05:38
Stskeepsit's quite a milestone anyway05:38
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Stskeepsbtw, it was a company that made qa-reports?05:39
E-Pyes, http://leonidasoy.fi/05:41
Stskeepsalright, good to know05:42
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Stskeepsjonwil: ping06:50
jonwilpong06:51
Stskeepsjonwil: wirelessmodemapi.. still got those backed up?06:51
jonwilnot sure, depends which version(s) you need06:51
jonwilI have "Wireless Modem API G2 V3 11w25"06:52
Stskeepsanything you have tbh06:52
Stskeepsfeel free to mail it, the site is down, so06:52
jonwilok, what do you need it for?06:52
Stskeepswe're debugging modem-ofono issues06:52
Stskeepsas it goes offline on n950/n906:53
Stskeepson modern ofono, too06:56
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Stskeepshello mrdunlop, welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time07:01
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Stskeepsjonwil: so if you have those, it'd help a lot.. it baffles me how that site went down07:11
jonwilyeah I am looking to see how many I can find07:11
Stskeepsalright, thanks07:11
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jonwilI have no idea if any of the ones I have match the N9 or N950 modem because I dont know which version the various bits in those modems have07:12
Stskeeps:nod:07:12
Stskeepsjust remember the basic principle.. engineers are lazt07:12
Stskeepsy07:12
phaeronmorning07:12
Stskeepsthey're not going to change massive things unless really needed07:13
Stskeeps:P07:13
jonwiltrue07:13
jonwil damn, I wish cellular-qt existed on Maemo5 (and I wish it wasn't closed-source)07:13
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timophmorning07:17
Stskeepsmorn timoph07:17
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jonwilstskeeps: Can't email you the files, they are too big, uploading them to some space I have07:19
Stskeepsjonwil: ok, thanks07:19
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jonwilI also have a cellmo-headers and cellmo-icpr81-headers package but those seem to be specific to the N900...07:21
* timoph dives into lwn's weekly edition07:24
jonwilok, files are up, what should I do with the links?07:27
Stskeepsjust mail them to me if you want07:28
jonwilmail sent07:30
Stskeepsthanks07:30
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jonwildamn, those documents dont contain anything useful on the modem SIM functionality07:44
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SageStskeeps: building nemo images against -next atm.07:56
Sagelets see how it goes07:56
Stskeepsok07:57
jonwilhmmm, ofono sends one of the 2 ISI messages I am interested in but (like most of ofono) there is no documentation on the message at all and finding it out from the code is too hard L(08:01
kulveis there a way to mount extra paths with "mer-sdk-chroot mount"? My $HOME is on NFS and therefore I'm having most of the stuff in /usr/local08:04
Sagelbt: here is actually one problem with the @BUILD_ID@ and mic and vendor http://pastie.org/437645708:05
* jonwil is glad he isn't on the team trying to maintain and extend ofono on n9xx08:06
lbtSage: that's the problem I've been trying to explain08:06
lbtyou need MER_RELEASE08:06
jonwilbecause of the complete lack of documentation or other information on the n9xx modems except for some vague bits in wirelessmodemapi08:06
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jonwilthat may or may not help08:07
lbtthis is where -D would be appropriate btw08:07
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Sagedb4-4.8.30-1.8.i586 requires libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2)08:09
SageStskeeps: what was the problem with that and i586?08:10
Stskeeps-A i68608:10
Stskeepsand glibc oddity in .spec08:10
Sageyey, yet another problem with mer-kickstarter-configs ;)08:10
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rsadhuhow to create rpm packages in sdk itself ?08:14
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Stskeepsrsadhu: if you can't, just use osc build instead08:16
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sivangmorning all08:17
sivangI want to help with bugs, now, in some of them there are things that for me need more clarification, is it okay to ask for this on the bug trail?08:18
Stskeepstrue, or here08:18
Stskeepssure, or here, i mean08:18
sivangStskeeps: great, I was weary it might "clog" the bug trails, but it would serve for great recording and docs for other contributors as well08:19
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E-PI built a minimal mer image against next, livecd doesn't boot up (root not found) and raw image boots up but network doesn't work08:22
E-Pin the raw image, example ifconfig doesn't exist08:22
SageE-P: systemctl start connman.service08:23
Sageon the raw image08:23
E-PSage: that works08:25
Sageby default connman is off if nobody asks for it it seems.08:26
alteregoIs MSSF like AEGIS?08:33
alteregoGuess it doesn't matter, not likely to stick it in mer or nemo08:34
* alterego is looking at meego gitorious repositories.08:34
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Stskeepsalterego: ish, but not very completed08:37
alteregoGod damnit, I don't have any coffe >_<08:37
alterego+e08:37
SageStskeeps: prelink seems ok now08:37
jonwilalterego: go get some coffee :P08:39
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alteregoI can't go get some coffee with out first having some coffee.08:39
alteregoI need to be bootstrapped.08:39
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StskeepsSage: good08:39
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rsadhuhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Spec08:44
rsadhuis this source suffice for understanding how to build rpm packages for mer sdk from source code?08:44
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SageFFS. what now. why doesn't my N900 boot propelry with -next08:58
Stskeepsgood thing we tested then08:59
SageI though we are already over this... grr...09:00
Sageoh, just first boot got jammed somehow, now with usb connected and rebooted it booted fine09:01
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Sagecobs slow or is it just me?09:07
Sagecan't access, repos, api or webui09:08
alteregoSeems fine for me ..09:09
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alteregoIs it possible to just create a -devel package?09:20
alteregoAnd no binary package?09:20
Aardalterego: you'd name the main package -devel. there's one package like that around already. mce-devel?09:21
alteregoAard: thanks.09:22
alteregoI was suspecting as much ..09:22
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Stskeepshello Rajesh_ :)09:54
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AardStskeeps: alterego: jmp___ is our ofono guy. I asked him to be here, so he can get help if he gets stuck with his sdk, and can help others with ofono-related questions, as long as they don't interfere with his main tasks10:11
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Stskeepsjmp___: welcome :)10:15
Stskeepsif you have any questions on Mer, feel free to ask at any time10:15
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sivangre all10:28
sivangis this the latest nemo kickstart one can use for bug fix / testing?10:28
sivanghttp://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-07-02.1/images/nemo-handset-i586-vm/10:28
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* sivang asks at #nemomobile, this is not the right channel :)10:30
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jukkaeklundheh10:32
sivangjukkaeklund ! you lurk here as well :)10:34
ae138who wouldn't10:34
alteregolol10:35
alteregoIt's like the last place on earth. Or maybe the restaurant at the end of the universe.10:35
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jukkaeklund:)10:37
jukkaeklundsivang, you can find me in surprising places..10:37
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* alterego watches libcommhistory compile for the 120th time ..10:38
Paimenthere is too many jukkas here :P10:39
Paimenand there10:39
alteregoStskeeps: do we have createrepo in mer sdk?10:44
alteregoStskeeps: not sure what package it would be in ..10:44
Stskeepsalterego: afaik10:45
Stskeepsits called createrepo10:45
alteregoYeah, can't find it ..10:47
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alteregoWell, I guess someone needs to add that package to the SDK ^.^10:49
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E-PReminder: Mer QA meeting starting in 29mins11:31
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E-PMer QA meeting startin now11:59
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alteregolbt: your mer-sdk-chroot exec stuff in gitorious?12:05
alteregos/gitorious/github/12:06
lbtyep lbt repo on 0.8 branch12:06
alteregoAh, like your solutions better.12:07
alteregoI've not used getopts before so my action as first param solution was a bit messy ;)12:08
alteregoOh wait, I did it like that,.12:09
alteregoWow, that's clean for me ..12:09
lbtbtw I was wrong about the exec12:10
lbtit does an exec inside bash so that's OK12:10
alteregoYeah, took me a while to get that right.12:10
alteregoBut I wasn't sure whether it was right, it just worked for my usecases.12:10
alteregoAre those SDK scripts packaged and upgradable inside sdk chroot?12:11
lbtyes12:11
alteregoFor instance, when you release a new version of that script, can you update a package and a user can zypper up in sdk?12:11
lbtyes12:11
alteregoawesome.12:12
alteregoHow long until that gets released do you think? I've got several people bugging me about getting QtCreator integration ;)12:12
lbtcouple of days12:13
alteregobrilliant12:13
alteregoI think that's a really cool feature, so looking forward to it being in the sdk :)12:13
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phaeronE-P: what is your email13:15
phaeronnm found it13:17
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E-Pphaeron: got it, thanks13:57
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phaeronwelcome14:03
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sledgesstill sad situation, anyone here knowing qmake subtleties? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=meegotouch-systemui&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3AProject%3AMTF%3AUX&repository=CE_UX_MTF_i58614:24
Stskeepsuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/meegotouch-meegotouch-systemui/tests/ut_statusindicatormenu/../../src/systemui/statusindicatormenu/statusindicatormenu.cpp:62: undefined reference to `ShutdownUI::showWindow(QString const&, QString const&, int)'14:25
Stskeepsme/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/meegotouch-meegotouch-systemui/tests/ut_statusindicatormenu/../../src/systemui/statusindicatormenu/statusindicatormenu.cpp:59: undefined reference to `ShutdownUI::ShutdownUI()'14:25
Stskeepsmake[2]: *** [ut_statusindicatormenu] Error 114:25
sledgesyup14:25
Stskeepsfind out what parts ut_statusindicatormenu is built from14:26
sledgesi identified the error, but have no idea how to make a .o file (which is a result of a .cpp compilation) link against building files in a subproject (one directory deeper)14:26
Stskeepsit's obvious that statusindicatormenu.cpp refers to a shutdownui that isn't linked into the test14:26
sledgesit is instructed to be built and how by its .pri14:26
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sledgesand I patched its .pri with LIBS = -l../shutdown.o and many other combinations that I was advised at #qt .. no luck :)14:27
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sledgess/=/+=/14:27
sledgess/shutdown/shutdownui/14:27
Stskeepsgo look at ut_statusindicatormenu description?14:27
sledgesah, so it is the ut - the unit test that is failing (!) :)14:28
sledgesthis little ut_ has escaped my sight, ok will take glance there14:28
sledgesthank you for now Stskeeps14:29
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StskeepsSage: i really wonder wtf is up with the livecd14:37
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SageStskeeps: udev rules doesn't seem to work and mount the /dev/root14:38
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Sageit should mount the sr0 iirc to /dev/root where the initrd init then chroots and boots kernel14:39
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Stskeepsok, as a start, it can't find dm_snapshot module..14:40
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Stskeepsif i mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev and then ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/root, it continues a bit14:40
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sivangre all14:41
Stskeepswb14:41
SageStskeeps: a bit? not fully?14:41
StskeepsSage: yes, next up complaining about dm_snapshot14:42
sivangStskeeps: :)14:42
StskeepsSage: where does udev rules go these days?14:42
SageStskeeps:             echo "KERNEL==\"sr[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/sbin/blkid -s LABEL -o value %N\", RESULT==\"$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"root\"" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/00-cdlabel.rules14:42
StskeepsSage: yes, but does udev read from there?14:43
Sageoh, that is a good point14:43
sivangSo, I'm getting this error trying to build an image for the 'latest' nemo mobile ks file using a a newly downloaded sdk following PlatformSDK wiki page : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1125303/14:43
SageStskeeps: let me check14:43
sivangif anybody has an idea, that'd be lovely as this worked flawlessly last week14:43
SageStskeeps: should read from /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d14:44
Stskeepssivang: in SDK, sudo rm /etc/mtab; sudo ln -s /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab14:44
sivangStskeeps: regression?14:44
* sivang does14:44
Stskeepssivang: insane mic coder14:44
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sivangLOL14:44
* sivang runs to put this on the wiki14:45
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SageStskeeps: is udev running on there btw?14:48
Stskeepsyes, it is14:48
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Stskeepsstill, i wonder -wtf- is going on..14:57
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StskeepsSage: i'm packaging dracut15:02
Stskeepswell, or stealing somebody else'es meego15:02
sivangI think I remember assigning some bugs to me, how can I ask bugzilla to show me all of the bugs I commencted on or assigned to myself?15:05
* sivang was never too good with bugsie15:05
SageStskeeps: I like the idea :)15:06
SageStskeeps: question in nemo chan for you15:06
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sledgessivang, there's "My Bugs" link on the bottom15:11
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SageStskeeps: n900 and n950 images boot fine so up to x8615:38
Stskeepsok15:39
Stskeepsi ideally want to get livecd working somehow15:39
* Sage is happy to get this stuff finaly updated15:40
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StskeepsSage: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Adracut&repository=Mer_Core-next_i58615:53
Stskeepsthis is same problem in CE:Adaptation:x86-generic15:53
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SageStskeeps: depmod -a should create those. And the kernel in https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Amer:x86-fix should fix that15:57
Sageerr... wrong kernel... hmmp15:57
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timophE-P: Stskeeps yeah. I did the flasher thingy. saunabad made improvements to it16:00
SageStskeeps: http://stuff.onse.fi/man?program=modules.dep.bin&section=516:01
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Sage!?!%!"#"!?16:03
MerBotSage: Error: "?!%!"#"!?" is not a valid command.16:03
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SageStskeeps: DEPMOD          = /sbin/depmod16:04
SageStskeeps: in Makefile of kernel. It is now in /usr/sbin/depmod16:04
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SageStskeeps: hah "Warning: you may need to install module-init-tools" in the kernel buildlog :)16:12
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SageStskeeps: a) move kmod links to /sbin/ from /usr/sbin/ b) do link from /usr/sbin to /sbin 3) patch kernel to point /usr/sbin/16:20
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SageStskeeps: making a fix to kmod to put binaries to /sbin16:35
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StskeepsSage: okay, kernel better now?16:58
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* sivang --> goes home, up north , see you all later17:05
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SageStskeeps: well, based on the code it should be fine after that fix. Haven't compiled yet though.17:11
StskeepsSage: can we fix the kernel instead, for now?17:12
Stskeepsi really don't want to rebuild the entire stack again :)17:12
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SageStskeeps: well. that binary path change can cause anything pretty much17:13
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Sagedon't you just need to compile kmod and stuff that depends on that? ah. udev + systemd17:14
Stskeepsyeah..17:14
Stskeepsand udev builds qt-mobility, ..17:14
Stskeepswhich rebuilds qtwebkit17:14
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Sageok, so fixing kernels and telling to everyone that they need to patch their kernel?17:15
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Stskeepsok, just submit it17:15
Sagewhich one? :)17:16
Stskeepskmod fix17:16
Stskeepswe might get lucky and it won't cause any pain17:16
Sagehttp://review.merproject.org/#change,72617:16
* Sage hits gerrit with a bat17:16
Stskeepserr..17:17
Stskeepsit's in /bin/kmod ?17:17
Sage:headdesk:17:18
Sagedidn't rpmlint complain about invalid links in package?17:18
Stskeepsit got lazy?17:18
* Sage feels stupid about this path issue thingy17:20
SageWe should probalby consider doing the link from /usr/sbin/ to /sbin etc. and start moving stuff to /usr. In next couple of releases, as upstreams are taking that approach already in many areas.17:22
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Stskeepsyeah17:23
Stskeepsit gets really annoying when they 'rely' on that17:23
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SageI could have prevented this if I would have though a bit more :)17:27
SageStskeeps: where was your dracut again?17:27
Stskeepshome:stskeeps:dracut17:27
Stskeepsi took a break, so17:27
Stskeepsjavispedro: how do you feel about using android linker to do obscene things to android graphics drivers?17:29
javispedroandroid _linker_? :P17:29
Stskeepsmind if i /msg ?17:29
javispedroshoot17:30
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SageStskeeps: copypac this there https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kmod&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l17:30
CosmoHillhey javispedro17:31
javispedroheya17:31
StskeepsSage: ok sec17:35
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* Sage ponders how dracut works with mic17:41
Stskeepsit says Provides: mkinitrd..17:41
Sagehow does the mkinitrd work atm. Who creates the initrd ramdisk for livecd? mic?17:52
Stskeepsmkinitrd does17:53
Sagebut who calls it?17:53
Stskeepsmic afaik17:53
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Sageplugins/imager/livecd_plugin.py:170:            args = [ "/usr/libexec/mkliveinitrd", "/boot/initrd-%s.img" % kernelver, "%s" % kernelver ]17:54
Sageso yes, mic calls it17:54
Stskeepshttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Adracut&repository=Mer_Core-next_i58617:57
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Stskeepsyeah, kmod triggers qtwebkit17:59
Stskeepswell, i'll get it merged17:59
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Stskeepsso how did we fix this in the n900/n950/n9 kernel18:00
Stskeepsi would assume they had /sbin/depmod too18:00
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SageI added depmod -a to the %post18:00
Sageor well depmod versionstuff18:00
Sagebut I haven't submitted those to the CE: project just in my branches18:01
Sagealso BuildRequires: And Requires: should have kmod >= 918:01
SageI'm confused that should have fixed it the /sbin/depmod thingy18:02
Stskeepswell, maybe it's just that those files are simply gone18:02
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Sageno there is still the warning in the log18:03
Sagethat module-init-tools missing18:03
Stskeepsok18:03
* Sage branches kernel to his own project18:04
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Stskeepshello sasikala :)18:18
sasikalaStskeeps:Hi h r u doing?18:19
Stskeepssasikala: i'm good thank you. welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time18:20
sasikalaThanks. I am trying to set up the things. If i have anything i will ping you :-) .18:22
Stskeepssure :)18:23
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* Sage really needs new brain18:30
Stskeepsoh?18:31
SageI fixed in the git and build locally but forgot to submit to obs :D18:31
Stskeepshehe18:31
Sagedo new copypac now kmod is fixed :D18:31
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Stskeepscan do18:32
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Stskeepsdone18:35
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Sage - highlights:rebuilt: cups gconf kmod ofono polkit pulseaudio qt-mobility qtwebkit sensorfw systemd upower18:38
Sageif there qtwebkit wouldn't be there it would be quite fast :)18:38
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Stskeepsyeah18:40
Sagehah, now there are new files :D18:42
situStskeeps: How's life ?18:47
Stskeepssitu: it's good, my android experiments are moving forward18:48
situDid you hear rumours about Nokia selling Qt ?18:49
Stskeepssure, but they said that in public stock related announcements18:50
Stskeepsfrom what i recall18:50
Stskeepsno surprises there18:50
situDid they ? Any links ?18:50
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Stskeepsit was around the time they stated the ulm site would be shut down18:51
situOk, now I remember.18:52
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Stskeepsbesides that, qt project is a open source project18:52
situYeah, I am not sure what's left to sell :P They already sold licensing business to Digia.18:53
SageStskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?opackage=kernel-adaptation-pc&oproject=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic&package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l&rev=218:54
SageStskeeps: should fix the build issue on both old and new.18:54
Stskeepsok18:54
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Stskeepswell, i'll merge kmod and then get that started overnight18:55
Sagewhen the next release will be after this one? Would like to see one package update in so I could push the pattern versions to nemo.18:59
Sagehttp://review.merproject.org/#change,722 to be exact19:00
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Stskeeps2ok, merged19:09
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StskeepsSage: it'll build overnight, then new prerelase19:16
Stskeepsand i hope this is @$@% it by now19:16
Stskeeps:P19:16
Sagewell the livecd thingy is still something that might bite us with something specific in systemd/udev stuff.19:17
Sageother things seem to be fine.19:17
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rcghmm.. this may be nitpicking but fingerterm is missing a dependency on meegotouch-applauncherd19:25
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Sageo_0 sysuid crashing on my vm image :/19:30
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Sageoh, what now19:30
Stskeepsthat's normal isnt it19:31
Sageoh, well doesn't matter atm. so much19:31
Sageraw x86 image boots fine19:33
Sagewith new kmod and my kenrel path. will forward the kernel19:33
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rcggreat, finger term runs on plasma active as well :)19:40
Stskeepstest n950/n9 too for good measure..19:40
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rubdosI have it, my N9 =D19:45
Stskeepsrubdos: congratulations19:46
rubdosStskeeps: Thanks :D19:48
rubdosQuick question: Charging for first time. Am I correct I can't start the device before it's fully charged, the first time?19:49
Stskeepsrubdos: it's mostly a myth these days but good to do anyway19:49
Stskeepsso you get a good feel for battery capacity when you use it19:49
rubdosStskeeps: I mean, the phone doesn't ALLOW me to start it19:49
Stskeepsoh, right19:49
Stskeepsmaybe?19:49
Stskeeps:P19:49
Stskeepsi don't recall my first n9 moments.19:50
rubdosWe'll know in about 20 mins19:50
rubdosit's almost fully loaded :D19:50
rubdosCan't wait!19:50
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