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| denism | why 'raw' is recommended for use by VM, and not 'livecd'? livecd is generating small .iso | 06:15 |
| phaeron | livecd / liveusb generation was broken for a while in mic, not sure if it was fixed | 06:18 |
| phaeron | afair | 06:19 |
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| denism | phaeron: for Nemo - livecd's images are generated (at least for me) and works somehow in Virtual Box | 06:37 |
| denism | but I will try to compare with 'raw' more, perhaps there are less bugs | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | virtualbox convertfromraw is useful there at least | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | er, vboxmanage | 06:41 |
| alterego | qemu has those tools as well afair | 07:01 |
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| lbt | morning all | 07:50 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron: any knowledge of large data xfer from merproject.org | 07:52 |
| phaeron | right now ? | 07:54 |
| lbt | no, recently | 07:54 |
| lbt | yesterday-ish | 07:54 |
| phaeron | lbt: not yesterday , but I rsynced the new snapshot a couple of days ago | 07:55 |
| lbt | looks like someone did a backup or we got mirrored - 2Tb in a day | 07:55 |
| phaeron | 2TB in a day is a lot ! | 07:56 |
| alterego | lol | 07:56 |
| alterego | That is a lot. | 07:56 |
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| lbt | ah, nm, I misread it | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | how much then? | 07:58 |
| lbt | 2343Mb | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | oh not bad then | 07:59 |
| lbt | yeah, that's quite small | 08:00 |
| lbt | I wonder why I just suddenly started getting alerts about it | 08:00 |
| * lbt should get coffee before reading "exceeding of traffic-report-limit" emails | 08:02 | |
| Stskeeps | tfrom hetzner? | 08:02 |
| lbt | yeah, it's purely information onl | 08:02 |
| lbt | y | 08:02 |
| lbt | but phrased in a very scary germanic way :D | 08:02 |
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| Stskeeps | morn rcg | 08:05 |
| lbt | yeah - looking at logs it's nothing to worrry about - just a single day peak - just outside normal and just over the default 'FYI' notice | 08:06 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 08:07 |
| mikhas | We Germans like to sound scary. | 08:07 |
| lbt | mikhas: do you all practice in front of the mirror? | 08:08 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: we're born that way | 08:08 |
| mikhas | In front of big crowds rather. | 08:08 |
| * dm8tbr cringes | 08:08 | |
| mikhas | =p | 08:08 |
| lbt | *g* | 08:08 |
| dm8tbr | mikhas: but yeah, natural stuff, just watch iron sky. based on true facts. :-þ | 08:09 |
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| rcg | morning Stskeeps and all :) | 08:10 |
| mikhas | I think we just got use to the role model of evil geniuses. More to the former than the latter, but still. | 08:10 |
| rcg | ah, now my keyboard works again within pidgin.. had to restart pidgin to get the keyboard working?!? | 08:10 |
| rsadhu | hi folks | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | hi rsadhu, welcome :) | 08:11 |
| rsadhu | thanks :) | 08:11 |
| rsadhu | I am trying to contribute to mer/nemo project | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | rsadhu: if you have any questions on Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 08:12 |
| rsadhu | and i have just started reading wikis regarding mer and nemo | 08:13 |
| rsadhu | but i am getting confused a little | 08:13 |
| rsadhu | i will shooting volley of questions shortly | 08:13 |
| lbt | feel free :) | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, sure, feel free to help edit the wiki with what we answer so others can benefit too | 08:14 |
| rsadhu | and i beg pardon to all, if i ask some silly questions too :p | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine, it helps us understand where our documentation gaps are | 08:15 |
| rsadhu | k | 08:16 |
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| * lbt lmao .... even google don't dare show the olympic symbol : www.google.com | 08:30 | |
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| rcg | hmm.. re | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | time for new irc client? | 08:31 |
| rcg | probably.. every second connect the keyboard was not working | 08:33 |
| phaeron | lbt: trademark issues ? | 08:33 |
| rcg | but one restart was due to me removing the sim card from the laptop in order to put it in the tablet | 08:33 |
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| lbt | phaeron: yes | 08:39 |
| phaeron | the world is just becoming insane about patents and trademarks | 08:42 |
| mikhas | phaeron, that's assuming the world wasn't insane yet | 08:43 |
| phaeron | well recently the "import and selling ban" thing is happening a lot | 08:43 |
| mikhas | eh, only smartphones | 08:44 |
| mikhas | I wanted to write a much more cynical answer but luckily deleted that ;-) | 08:44 |
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| * lbt is avoiding the advertisement | 08:48 | |
| mikhas | ;-) | 08:49 |
| * andre__ wearing his Mer shirt at GUADEC conference :P | 08:50 | |
| Stskeeps | andre__: woo | 08:51 |
| mikhas | andre__, o/ | 08:51 |
| andre__ | Yayay :) | 08:52 |
| mikhas | I wish I could have been there, or at least for yesterday's keynote. | 08:52 |
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| mikhas | It would have been like a Penis Company Revival Party. | 08:52 |
| mikhas | I actually checked flights on Thursday :-D Price was only $4k. | 08:53 |
| phaeron | mikhas: tablets too | 08:54 |
| mikhas | phaeron, yeah well, I still dont use tablets. | 08:55 |
| mikhas | Even though I have one with me … | 08:55 |
| mikhas | (and I dont mean the N900) | 08:55 |
| mikhas | So I refrain from commenting on the insanity in tablet world. | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | i've grown fonder of my touchpad, very useful for early morning email check | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | and its glibc based linux, so i don't feel dirty :P | 08:56 |
| mikhas | You have a strange sense of cleanness. | 08:56 |
| mikhas | =p | 08:56 |
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| Stskeeps | only android device i have is my nook color | 08:59 |
| andre__ | mikhas, many new faces, and finally an acceptable amount of women. It does not feel like a complete male show anymore. | 09:01 |
| mikhas | oh, so no penis jokes allows, sorry then! | 09:01 |
| andre__ | technically, some interesting talks. and hopefully a few more discussions on Gnome's problems. | 09:01 |
| andre__ | mikhas, meeep! Code of Conduct! ;) | 09:02 |
| mikhas | yeah, I am waiting for an official statement to company's blog | 09:02 |
| mikhas | it spreads like a wildfire | 09:02 |
| andre__ | "official"? by who? | 09:02 |
| mikhas | board of directors? | 09:02 |
| andre__ | he's right in most things. | 09:02 |
| mikhas | yes | 09:02 |
| andre__ | (some numbers and statements are wrong though but that does not amke his points less valid) | 09:03 |
| mikhas | keep in mind he *is* burnt out | 09:03 |
| andre__ | might be, yes. | 09:03 |
| mikhas | so from that POV, this is a fairly objective blog post | 09:03 |
| mikhas | andre__, I really do feel that crowdfunding GNOME application development could be one part of the answer. | 09:04 |
| mikhas | that allows to invest in QA and proper technical docs | 09:04 |
| mikhas | things that hackers usually dont want to do | 09:04 |
| andre__ | interesting. I admit I missed the talk about funding yesterday | 09:04 |
| mikhas | there was some blog by ploum with a similar vision, what GNOME4 should be | 09:04 |
| andre__ | Xan also gave a talk with a GNOME 4 idea. Mixed reception. | 09:05 |
| mikhas | yeah, heard that | 09:05 |
| andre__ | I'm slowly running out of battery plus I'm giving a talk right now (though I outsourced the actual talking to Gil) so I should pay attention again :) | 09:06 |
| andre__ | [later] | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 09:06 |
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| mikhas | andre__, "Will GNOME 4.0 be built by GNOME companies with business opportunity in mind ?" https://plus.google.com/118165493193465533929/posts/6vUvMqhEjDE | 09:07 |
| andre__ | mikhas: seif was also thinking about exactly that topic lately | 09:08 |
| mikhas | andre__, what I feel GNOME is missing is product thinking | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | well they're welcome to do it with mer as bottom ;) | 09:08 |
| mikhas | most things that company listed could be reduced to that | 09:08 |
| andre__ | Stskeeps, oh I wouldn't be against ;) | 09:08 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, you actually have a point | 09:08 |
| andre__ | mikhas, there is no gold sponsor this year at this conference, only silver ones. | 09:09 |
| mikhas | yeah! | 09:09 |
| mikhas | very scary | 09:09 |
| andre__ | maybe companies don't get enough back from Gnome. | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | while we have qt, nothing stops anybody from using the parts they need | 09:09 |
| mikhas | and no livestreaming, even though fluendo and collabora co-joined gstreamer efforts | 09:09 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, I've started to learn that good software is about concepts, not actual implementation. | 09:10 |
| mikhas | Most "good" software actually comes with crappy implementation, more often than not. | 09:10 |
| andre__ | Stskeeps, personally I don't care about gtk vs. qt, but I don't have a majority in the release team :D | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: yeah, just i'd be a common argument 'but mer is qt focused'.. | 09:11 |
| andre__ | NIH syndrome | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | cordia use disproved that | 09:11 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, reply with "very true, mer is --qt-- focused | 09:11 |
| mikhas | " | 09:11 |
| andre__ | got 4min of battery left. sorry guys, really got to shut down :) | 09:12 |
| andre__ | see you later! | 09:12 |
| mikhas | ;-) | 09:12 |
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| mikhas | enjoy! | 09:12 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas, yeah - and our approach to encouraging make-your-own-stack helps.. | 09:14 |
| mikhas | it does | 09:14 |
| mikhas | I had this product thinking discussion with Lennart two weeks ago. | 09:15 |
| mikhas | We mostly agreed on the issues, but came up with very different conclusions. | 09:15 |
| mikhas | Both of us agree there's a lack of product thinking in GNOME. | 09:15 |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, make-your-own-stack is exactly what you want for products … | 09:16 |
| mikhas | Instead of advertising technology, you advertise concrete products, which then promote the technology. | 09:16 |
| mikhas | Easy to say, I know. | 09:17 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, GNOME is hurting a lot from the Unity fork, I think. One needs to accept that different UX have become a reality. | 09:19 |
| mikhas | But still you will find a lot of senseless Unity bashing, and how everyone should just use GNOME Shell … even by people whom you think should know better. | 09:19 |
| mikhas | They completely miss the point that Unity is still using its fair share of GNOME techs. | 09:19 |
| mikhas | anyways, </off-topic> ;-) | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | morn yunta | 09:47 |
| Oipo | Morning people. | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:54 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: so ... rpm.... would you mind if I moved rpm from quilt(?) to git-patch based patches? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, don't we have mer:tools to do first? | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | but sure | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | i think its not quilt but tangled | 09:58 |
| lbt | https://gist.github.com/3192723 | 09:58 |
| lbt | before/after | 09:58 |
| lbt | oop - ignore the _src in before | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok, sure | 09:59 |
| lbt | it's not a full move to new approach - I'll just use the approach to create the files | 09:59 |
| lbt | OK | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | am i going to be killed for asking them to be named rpm-version-it-applies-against-0001-etc? | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | idle thought | 10:01 |
| lbt | yes | 10:01 |
| lbt | simply because git-patch makes them | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:01 |
| lbt | I preserve the orginal patch name as the commit message | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | and is it reproducable outside your personal system? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | in case i want to patch on top | 10:02 |
| lbt | so in broad terms it's the same as before with slightly different names of patch files | 10:03 |
| lbt | you should be able to use git-apply and git-patch to reproduce | 10:04 |
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| lbt | I'm not specially documenting that as it's an interim phase | 10:04 |
| lbt | so 'yes' | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:05 |
| lbt | but it probably makes more sense to bounce it via me for rpm for the next few weeks | 10:05 |
| lbt | I'm not risking pushing the 'real' git tree to gerrit today :) | 10:05 |
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| lbt | I think I would like to do some backup first | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | we might want either 4.10 or backport their tilde algorithm btw | 10:05 |
| lbt | yeah, I checked the bugs but the change would be really hard to review | 10:06 |
| lbt | so I figured lets do the quickbuild (which you wrote the draft for) and the filename shuffle as an easy step 1 | 10:07 |
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| Stskeeps | morn kallaballa | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, yes | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | quickbuild is for sure needed | 10:20 |
| kallaballa | morn | 10:20 |
| kallaballa | :) | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | probably top problem have with obs.. 'rebuild all the time' or 'difficult for people who just want to change a line'' | 10:21 |
| lbt | well, it works now ... osc build --rebuild | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 10:22 |
| lbt | osc build --rebuild --rsync-src=acl-2.2.51 --rsync-dest=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/acl-2.2.51 Mer_Core_i486 i586 acl.spec | 10:22 |
| lbt | is the full line | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | can't we just do /BUILD/ ? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | to simplify | 10:23 |
| lbt | probably - I discussed some minor tweaks with phaeron | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:24 |
| lbt | it should be even better with git-pkg | 10:24 |
| lbt | then it becomes totally automatic | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | if we can make it muscle memory or even read from .spec, it might be nice | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | less mental usage | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | otherwise, cool | 10:25 |
| lbt | yep - it'll just simplify to nothing | 10:25 |
| lbt | step 1 is 2 commits to Tools and 1 to Core | 10:25 |
| lbt | Tools is ready | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:25 |
| lbt | I need this in core | 10:25 |
| kallaballa | i'm trying to contribute by fixing bugs for mer and nemo and i succeded in building a virtualbox image. but when i try to follow the guide https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Getting_Started to create the sample image for my n900 i'm running into problems with mic | 10:25 |
| kallaballa | anyone ever encounted that problem: http://pastebin.com/JXR9JYF0? | 10:26 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: you know - I took https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219 but I'lm putting it back | 10:26 |
| lbt | kallaballa: lessee | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, i'm mobile, what bug was it? | 10:26 |
| lbt | "meego keyword is hardwired into __os_install_post macro [possibly arm only?]" | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:26 |
| lbt | trivial but we need to touch rpm soon again anyhow | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:27 |
| lbt | kallaballa: ah... I think this is the super-annoying /etc/mtab bug | 10:28 |
| lbt | in the SDK: sudo rm /etc/mtab; sudo ln -s /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab | 10:28 |
| kallaballa | lbt: that fixed my problem. thx! btw. i encountered a few more issues following the guides. i'd like to fix the guides. | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | file bugs on bad behaviour too | 10:33 |
| kallaballa | ? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | like if anything seems od | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | d | 10:35 |
| kallaballa | ic. sure'll do | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to ask about phrasing for wiki, else just edit away :) | 10:36 |
| * lbt thinks we should use the standard way to reference bugs in wiki - that way we should be able to find bug references and tidy them periodically | 10:36 | |
| Stskeeps | wiki login is same as bugzilla | 10:37 |
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| kallaballa | ok thx! | 10:46 |
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| kallaballa | could anyone please give me a hint on how to build a sdk from scratch using https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, package mer-kickstarter at least | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | sdk-kickstarter-configs is also an rpm afaik | 12:12 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: hi | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | hey mdfe | 12:13 |
| mdfe | is https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235 realy solved? | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe, to my understanding a few releases ago | 12:14 |
| mdfe | I'm just asking because I have some trouble to build external modules | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok, can i see some errors? | 12:15 |
| mdfe | sure | 12:15 |
| mdfe | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=pvr-archos-gen9-kernel&project=Project%3AKDE%3AMer_Extras%3AAdaptation%3AArchos-gen9%3Apvr&repository=Project_KDE_Devel_CE_UX_PlasmaActive_armv7l | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | im on gprs, so if i drop off, others are welcome to take over :P | 12:17 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe, add a ls -lR /usr/src ibefore make | 12:23 |
| mdfe | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=pvr-archos-gen9-kernel&project=Project%3AKDE%3AMer_Extras%3AAdaptation%3AArchos-gen9%3Apvr&repository=Project_KDE_Devel_CE_UX_PlasmaActive_armv7l | 12:24 |
| mdfe | I took find | 12:24 |
| mdfe | the kernel source is missing in this location | 12:25 |
| mdfe | I'm unpacking the kernel devel rpm atm | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | i don't see the -devel package being installed? | 12:25 |
| lbt | kallaballa: https://gist.github.com/3193090 | 12:25 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: great thanks | 12:26 |
| kallaballa | lbt:thx | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: feel free to wikifu | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | wikify that is | 12:29 |
| kallaballa | Stskeeps: i'm on to it | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 12:32 |
| Oipo | Hrm, how can I add my OBS repository to a kickstart file? The urls on the OBS website look nothing like kickstart repos. | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | show the url on obs? | 12:39 |
| Oipo | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qt&project=home%3Aoipo%3Abranches%3AMer.MDS%3ACore%3Ai486 | 12:40 |
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| phaeron | Oipo: you need to click on one of the repo you want which will take you to another page where you have a link to the download repo | 12:43 |
| Oipo | Sweet! | 12:43 |
| Oipo | Got it, thanks. | 12:43 |
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| sivang | hello all :) | 14:49 |
| lbt | afternoon | 14:49 |
| sivang | hey lbt :) | 14:49 |
| denism | hi, I want to do a bugfix for Mer, what should be done in case of non-related build failure found by Mer Automation Dependancy build checker? | 14:50 |
| sivang | lbt: is there a way to run a raw image through qemu with freshly installed platform sdk? I see it has only qemu binaries for arm AFAICT | 14:50 |
| sivang | ? | 14:50 |
| Oipo | Hey hey. | 14:50 |
| denism | for example http://review.merproject.org/704 - it fails on poppler-qt building for 1 particular platform, should I investigate what's wrong there and fix it also, or what? | 14:51 |
| sivang | hey Oipo , how's it going? | 14:51 |
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| lbt | sivang: you can make a VM for minimal Mer - not sure if anyone updated GettingStarted page | 14:51 |
| Oipo | Pretty good, put up my changes a bit ago and awaiting my first review. Excited a bit. | 14:51 |
| lbt | denism: yes - the rebuild is intended to catch build-time regressions | 14:52 |
| sivang | Oipo: ah, nice :) | 14:52 |
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| sivang | lbt: you mean build a vm binary to run my newly created image? | 14:53 |
| Oipo | And over there? Managed to freshen up on your obs-fu? | 14:53 |
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| sivang | Oipo: well, a bit- I am concentrating on running the recent image to test something :) | 14:54 |
| lbt | sivang: yes | 14:54 |
| lbt | denism: looking | 14:54 |
| denism | lbt: ok, I am trying to compile poppler-qt by myself, but how can I do it? I do not see possibility to build it: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=poppler-qt&project=home%3Amdn%3Abranches%3AMer.MDS%3ACore%3Ai486 | 14:54 |
| sivang | Oipo: interested in running it without depedning on VirtualBox ;) | 14:54 |
| phaeron | sivang: do you have virtualbox ? | 14:54 |
| phaeron | ah | 14:54 |
| denism | (I have added manually armv6l - and it stopped to work) | 14:54 |
| sivang | phaeron: I can install it, if this gsm connection will let me. I'll try now as it will save time :) | 14:54 |
| phaeron | sivang: is it i586 image ? | 14:55 |
| sivang | phaeron: but if someone can show me around to it, I'll happily update the wiki how to create a mer vm | 14:55 |
| Oipo | If you're using the platform SDK chroot, you can "sudo mic create livecd file.ks --options here" | 14:55 |
| sivang | phaeron: 686 I think, as you instructed me so kindly last night | 14:55 |
| phaeron | yes | 14:55 |
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| phaeron | sivang: that can be run using kvm | 14:55 |
| phaeron | or qemu | 14:55 |
| phaeron | from the command line | 14:55 |
| denism | Oipo: I can not install Mer to 'hard disk' from such livecd, VirtualBox says that there is nothing to boot after an 'successful' installation | 14:56 |
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| Oipo | Oh, sorry. That was directed to sivang. | 14:57 |
| lbt | denism: yeah - the <repository> xml tells OBS where to get the binaries to build a package | 14:57 |
| lbt | you've told it to use the Tools repo to get the binaries to build a Core package | 14:57 |
| lbt | look at the other repos and copy/modify them | 14:57 |
| phaeron | sivang: what is your processor ? if you have kvm then you can use qemu-kvm to run the raw image in a vm, otherwise use qemu directly | 14:58 |
| denism | lbt: thank you, I will remove it. | 14:58 |
| denism | What is the difference between armv6l and armv7l on OBS - I do not see it by myself | 14:58 |
| lbt | denism: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_architecture_naming | 14:58 |
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| lbt | nb .. the <repository> tags on that page don't relate to c.obs ... sry | 14:59 |
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| niqt | hi | 15:03 |
| Oipo | G'day | 15:03 |
| sivang | phaeron: i have two machines, one is unfortunaltely an ULV laptop | 15:04 |
| sivang | phaeron: I have qemu for arm and mipsel only on the platform sdk chroot | 15:05 |
| sivang | phaeron: (judging by the binaries) | 15:05 |
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| * lbt_away is off to buy kitten toys... | 15:05 | |
| sivang | lbt_away: lol :) | 15:05 |
| sivang | phaeron: how do I get kvm to be installed inside psdk root? | 15:05 |
| denism | lbt: thank you very much, it is clearer now | 15:06 |
| Oipo | Why would you want qemu-kvm to be installed there anyway? | 15:06 |
| Oipo | Just un-chroot and run the image from a regular term? | 15:06 |
| phaeron | sivang: you don't need the sdk for that | 15:07 |
| sivang | Oipo: ah right | 15:07 |
| * sivang feels stupid | 15:07 | |
| phaeron | sivang: install it on host | 15:07 |
| sivang | hell, yeah :) | 15:07 |
| sivang | I don't know why I wanted to run it from the chroot! | 15:07 |
| Oipo | Don't worry, I've facepalmed twice as many times as that so far :P | 15:07 |
| * sivang apt-get install kvm | 15:08 | |
| sivang | (s) | 15:08 |
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| sivang | sweet pies, it works! | 15:10 |
| sivang | "Is alive!" | 15:10 |
| sivang | okay, so it has some issues with grasping orientation, and some things just blank out when clicked | 15:11 |
| sivang | I guess I'll just use VirtualBox? | 15:11 |
| sivang | although this might not have nothing to do with the core, which I want to test. | 15:11 |
| Oipo | Wouldn't change much, also has some issues with orientation and not working in general :P | 15:11 |
| alterego | lol | 15:12 |
| Oipo | At least, what you describe is what I experienced in VirtB as well. | 15:12 |
| phaeron | sivang: but you can ssh in and play with core related things | 15:12 |
| sivang | Oipo: oh, good to know, I don't fancy installing virtual box so much :-p | 15:14 |
| sivang | phaeron: yep, and that's what I'll do :) | 15:14 |
| sivang | phaeron: so, fixing a network connection is a matter of configuring it inside the VM? I don't see extra virutal device (well, it did say somewhere it is using bridging) is there's somewhere a doc of how to configure ssh access? :) | 15:15 |
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| phaeron | if you setup the correct network device in kvm then the vm should get dhcp | 15:16 |
| sivang | phaeron: okay, thanks. | 15:18 |
| alterego | w00t: new dialer app has declarative plugin bundled in, you can get it from: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/tswindell:/branches:/Project:/MTF:/Tracker/CE_MW_MTF_armv7hl/ | 15:19 |
| alterego | w00t: just need to zypper in voicecall and it'll pull in the one dependency it needs. I'd also remove the meego-handset-dialer package you may or may not have installed. | 15:20 |
| alterego | w00t: documentation for plugin is here: https://gitorious.org/voicecall/voicecall/blobs/master/plugins/declarative/src/voicecallmanager.h | 15:20 |
| alterego | lol | 15:21 |
| sivang | yay! I'm in. | 15:25 |
| sivang | hmm, so apparently nemo is not in sudoers | 15:25 |
| sivang | okay, thanks all. | 15:27 |
| sivang | I'll come again later, gotta run - thanks a lot phaeron | 15:27 |
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| sivang | one last thing before I run, it seems that sudo is not installed (su is there) I guess I need to modify the .ks file to include sudo there, or is there a repo from which I can install it? | 15:31 |
| sivang | (or build from source, all is possible I guess) | 15:31 |
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| phaeron | welcome | 15:33 |
| phaeron | sivang: ssh as root directly , and use nemo as password | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | denism, poppler-qt is a race condition that shows randomly during rebuilds | 15:34 |
| sivang | phaeron: right, but I want to see if the sudo issue is there (forgot the bug number), so I want to have sudo :) | 15:34 |
| sivang | there it is, https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379 | 15:35 |
| denism | Stskeeps: wow, thanks, so for qt itself - it means that every request might take 2-3 days and die due to such race condition. I will restart it. | 15:35 |
| Oipo | Dinner with the parents. bbl. | 15:36 |
| * sivang will look in repos, etc. Thanks all and have a great weekend! cheers phaeron | 15:37 | |
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| Stskeeps | denism, don't worry about it if rest compiled fine, i'll kick the CI to rebuild later tonight | 15:41 |
| denism | Stskeeps: ok thank you | 15:41 |
| kallaballa | i found the solution solution to the mtab bug but i | 15:42 |
| kallaballa | but i'm not sure about the actual fix to apply.. could someone please advice me on: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385#c6 | 15:42 |
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| phaeron | kallaballa: commented | 15:50 |
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| mja | damn, I've got two adjacent black line segments on the n950's display.. anyone else had the display fail? | 16:09 |
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| kallaballa | phaeron: thx | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | mja, that sucks, and not yet.. | 16:11 |
| phaeron | welcome, only imho :) | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | under harmattan i presume | 16:11 |
| kallaballa | phaeron: do you think i should make mic link mtab by default in a branch to have it reviewed? | 16:11 |
| mja | stskeeps, yep. tried reboot and other tricks | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: we have it fixed in an updated util-linux or 'filesystem' btw | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | really annoying issue | 16:12 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: he found another reason | 16:13 |
| phaeron | afaics | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | also good | 16:14 |
| kallaballa | stskeeps: oh... the issue i found is not related to the ks. mic has some hardcoded ignores. | 16:14 |
| kallaballa | stskeeps: could you still please point me to the fix you mentioned, so i can compare? | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | i'm on my n950 atm, so can't right now | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | i'll read bug report | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: ooh | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: very good catch, file a bug against 'mic' | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: our fix wouldn't fix that, i think | 16:18 |
| kallaballa | kallaballa: great.. im on it | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | thank you | 16:20 |
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| Stskeeps | kallaballa: i think you screwed 384 | 16:32 |
| kallaballa | kallaballa: ouch.. how? | 16:32 |
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| Stskeeps | take a look :) | 16:33 |
| kallaballa | kallaballa: ooh.. you're right... typo.. thx :) | 16:33 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey everyone :) | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | lo Venemo_N9 | 16:33 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's up? | 16:34 |
| Venemo_N9 | moo Stskeeps | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | stuck in a traffic jam | 16:38 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, ouch | 16:39 |
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| kallaballa | thx for all the help guys! cya tomorrow | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 18:45 |
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| Oipo | Hmm, the Mer Automation Single Build Checker reports "rpc timeout" as the reason for failure of building my changes. What does this mean? | 19:43 |
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| Venemo_N9 | good evening :) | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 20:15 |
| Venemo_N9 | In a week, I'll get my raspberry pi :) | 20:15 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm already thinking of putting Mer on it :) | 20:16 |
| Venemo_N9 | question: does Mer contain git or SVN? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | sdk parts does | 20:23 |
| CosmoHill | I need to use my pi | 20:23 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, awesome! | 20:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, having watched your presentation at Devaamo will really help me with it :) | 20:33 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: what presentation at devaamo ? | 20:57 |
| Venemo_N9 | situ, he talked about Mer on the raspberry pi | 20:57 |
| Venemo_N9 | and to some extent, image creation | 20:58 |
| situ | Ok.. is it online ? | 20:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | it will be, I'm not sure when | 20:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | probably when the Devaamo folks have the time to edit/upload the videos | 21:00 |
| situ | Ok, thanks! :) | 21:02 |
| situ | You run Mer on N9 ? | 21:03 |
| Venemo_N9 | not yet, but I run it on my N950 | 21:03 |
| Venemo_N9 | more correctly, I run Nemo, which is based on Mer | 21:05 |
| situ | I wish I had an N950. How do you find Nemo on N950 ? | 21:05 |
| Venemo_N9 | apart from some UI glitches, it's quite okay | 21:05 |
| situ | How did you manage to get N950 ? | 21:06 |
| Venemo_N9 | I participated in the developer program in 2011 | 21:06 |
| situ | Nokia was offering me one through Qt Ambassador program, I just didn't apply :| | 21:07 |
| Venemo_N9 | why not, if you want one? | 21:07 |
| situ | Well.. I had to dedicate some time to any projects on MeeGo (according to Nokia's terms), which I couldn't at that time. | 21:08 |
| Venemo_N9 | That's unfortunate | 21:09 |
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| situ | Venemo_N9: Can I run the vm image on Virtualbox ? | 21:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | situ, I haven't tried, but I think you can. | 21:15 |
| situ | I will try it later. | 21:16 |
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