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| iekku | morning | 04:12 |
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| iekku | hmm, only 3 more mornings | 04:29 |
| iekku | and then vacation \o/ | 04:29 |
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| timoph | morning | 05:12 |
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| timoph | btw, something came up and I don't so much time to work on tr-ui now | 05:13 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 05:14 |
| Stskeeps | food on table > open source anyway, so i'm happy for contributions up to now :) | 05:14 |
| timoph | :) | 05:14 |
| timoph | I'll still work on it but just have to use my own time | 05:15 |
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| E-P | Morning | 05:40 |
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| Stskeeps | morn E-P :) | 05:41 |
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| ericc | 诺基亚9月7日惊喜或为第三款MeeGo设备 ？right | 07:25 |
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| Stskeeps | what? | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:26 |
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| ericc | then say 0907 nokia will a new phone run meego | 07:28 |
| ericc | 20120907 | 07:28 |
| dm8tbr | that would be the most hilarious thing to possibly happen. | 07:29 |
| dm8tbr | hint: the answer is most likely: no | 07:29 |
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| ericc | it looks like nightmare | 07:30 |
| ericc | nokia always like lumia | 07:31 |
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| * timoph doesn't care. they do their thing, we do ours | 07:31 | |
| iekku | i think there's missunderstanding... if date has been 9th of july, it's about jolla to make new meego phone, not nokia | 07:32 |
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| dm8tbr | oh, if that's YYYYDDMM and not ISO date, then indeed | 07:33 |
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| iekku | it was 7th of july when jolla told the News | 07:33 |
| dm8tbr | then the answer is Jolla will make MeeGo Phones. | 07:33 |
| iekku | :) | 07:33 |
| Paimen | I think they are referring to this ad campaign http://mynokiablog.com/2012/07/18/something-amazing-is-coming-7-9-2012-nokia-flagship-store-helsinki-getting-ready-for-nokia-world-goodies/ | 07:34 |
| timoph | ah | 07:34 |
| Paimen | hmm why isn't terminal working on my nemo virtual box | 07:34 |
| iekku | oh, ok | 07:34 |
| timoph | osx? | 07:34 |
| Paimen | ubuntu | 07:34 |
| iekku | something amazing? nokia is sold? | 07:34 |
| iekku | :P | 07:35 |
| ericc | nokia is sold 。lol！！ | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | Paimen: compositor/dri2 fail | 07:35 |
| ericc | maybe wp8！ | 07:35 |
| iekku | wouldn't be that suprised if there's someday news about that | 07:35 |
| Paimen | Stskeeps: someway to get around it? | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | Paimen: i've considered to build compositor for GLX.. | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:36 |
| Paimen | :P | 07:36 |
| timoph | the weird thing is that it only seems to affect the terminal | 07:36 |
| timoph | ctrl+alt+F6 helps though :) | 07:37 |
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| lbt | morning | 07:44 |
| Sage_ | morning lbt | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: btw, kernel-adaptation-n900 fails to build for next | 07:49 |
| Sage_ | ah, the same issue than with x86 kernel | 07:50 |
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| Sage_ | for some reason those three files are not generated anymore | 07:50 |
| Sage_ | no idea what they are used for | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok, could this be why n900 doesn't boot? no moduels loaded? | 07:51 |
| Sage_ | well, anything is possible. I can patch it out and do one other check at the same time for N900 kernel | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:52 |
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| Sage_ | same goes for n950 but lets take n900 first | 07:56 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: did you get the console output with jig btw? | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | to some extent, the kernel build failed and i was tired :P | 07:57 |
| Venemo_N9 | good morning :) | 07:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's up? | 07:58 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4312932 | 07:58 |
| Sage_ | I've seen that before with the new setup | 07:59 |
| Sage_ | at times when trying to reuse the buildroot | 07:59 |
| Sage_ | is that sb2 issue or something odd with .spec? | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: hmmm | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | that does not look right | 08:02 |
| lbt | extended ACL or similar | 08:03 |
| Sage_ | for doc? :) | 08:03 |
| Sage_ | it is just %doc COPYING in .spec file | 08:03 |
| lbt | that's what it was for me iirc - does it unpack anything from that cpio file? | 08:04 |
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| lbt | and is this a mer-built cpio? | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: grab sb2-tools-armv7hl-inject and see if there's anything in /usr/share/doc | 08:04 |
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| slaine | morning folks | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 08:19 |
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| tanuk2 | Is this warning message familiar to anyone: | 08:23 |
| tanuk2 | Warning: File `/usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qconfig.h' has modification time 2.3e+03 s in the future | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | where do you see it? | 08:23 |
| tanuk2 | http://qtl.merproject.org/9a3994fe-d55d-11e1-889c-00163e6e0038.txt | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, there's a problem with one of our workers | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | it seems to be time-travelling | 08:24 |
| tanuk2 | I got a random looking build failure with http://review.merproject.org/#change,688 | 08:25 |
| * dm8tbr humms the back to the future theme | 08:25 | |
| Stskeeps | tanuk2: :nod: if there's a fluke, i always re-review | 08:25 |
| tanuk2 | Should I somehow trigger a rebuild attempt? | 08:25 |
| tanuk2 | Stskeeps: What do you mean by "re-review"? | 08:26 |
| tanuk2 | Resubmit the patch? | 08:26 |
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| Stskeeps | tanuk2: no, kick the CI system to re-build test | 08:27 |
| tanuk2 | Stskeeps: So how do I kick the CI system? | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | tanuk2: i do that normally :) | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | other way is to upload a new version of the patch | 08:29 |
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| tanuk2 | So there's nothing that I need to do then? | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | correct, feel free to continue on to next patch | 08:30 |
| tanuk2 | Ok, thanks. | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | generally when it's in gerrit, then set to resolved-fixed, add url for review, and go on to next stuff, and react if anything doesn't go well / bad reviews | 08:31 |
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| Paimen | finally got time to setup nemo image to run in virtual box, now it seems that I can start working with TDriver when I have few hours to spare | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | excellent | 08:38 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: sb2-tools-armv7hl-inject ? | 08:55 |
| Sage_ | where is that package? | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | sb2-tools-armv7hl in Core:armv7hl | 08:56 |
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| Sage_ | ah | 08:58 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: nothing | 09:03 |
| Sage_ | directory doesn't exist | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | bad sb2 rule maybe | 09:04 |
| Sage_ | it happens on upgrade/downgrade of local buildroot but not to clean builroot creation | 09:06 |
| alterego | Sage_: do you have N9 for testing mer/nemo? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: who owns /usr/share/doc? | 09:07 |
| Sage_ | alterego: yes, but I was not able to push pr1.3 in that device | 09:07 |
| alterego | Oh, do you know why? | 09:07 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: filesystem packge | 09:08 |
| Sage_ | alterego: partition table is a bit crewed :) | 09:08 |
| alterego | Ahhh, | 09:08 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: ls -lR /usr/share/doc | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | maybe bad perms | 09:10 |
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| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4313148 | 09:11 |
| * Sage_ ponders if his sd card broke finally | 09:12 | |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: 755 perms | 09:13 |
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| Sage_ | well, checking from my sdk not buildroot it fails though | 09:13 |
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| ericc | Sage_ what are you doing？install mer on？ | 09:30 |
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| Sage_ | ericc: ? | 09:52 |
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| dm8tbr | Sage_: google translate or somesuch from chinese | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: what are conditions for getting into Mer:Tools:Testing and thereon out to :Tools ? | 10:16 |
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| lbt | M:T:T is very easy access for trusted devs and serves as a place to share tools from | 10:29 |
| lbt | M:T is the pre-release staging area and should be reviewed to get into | 10:30 |
| lbt | when we're happy with M:T we do a release from it | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:32 |
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| lbt | nb... this is kinda what happens, not saying its a good system :) | 10:32 |
| * Sage_ ponders if something is wrong with latest prerelease linking | 10:39 | |
| Sage_ | Info: Installing: pm-utils +++++++++++ [160/473]/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.KQwWGf: line 4: touch: command not found | 10:39 |
| Sage_ | I fixed that issue already | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -q --changelog pm-utils | 10:39 |
| Sage_ | sure if the image boots :) | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | kernel finished, making image.. | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Mer release management meeting in #mer-meeting in 15 minutes | 10:45 |
| Sage_ | ok, so n950 doesn't boot either | 10:46 |
| * Sage_ ponders what in x86 makes it boot compared to n900 and n950 | 10:46 | |
| * Sage_ checks if there is new kernel requirements | 10:46 | |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/README?id=a63599edcca136554f6794870214fba495324ec4 | 10:52 |
| Sage_ | time to hunt some kernel patches I guess? | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | ..forwhat | 10:53 |
| Sage_ | No idea :/ | 10:53 |
| Sage_ | x86 is the only adaptation that passes that dep so maybe that is reason it boots | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | needing ipv6 seems really strange | 10:53 |
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| lbt | ouch | 11:00 |
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| timoph | kyyberi: btw, does the meet thing track realeases with executive summary changelogs? | 11:10 |
| kyyberi | timoph: atm it does not do anything relared to releases | 11:11 |
| kyyberi | yet | 11:11 |
| timoph | ack. would be a nice feature anyway | 11:11 |
| kyyberi | would need to know easy access points to data to do that (newbie, not knowing where to look for) | 11:11 |
| timoph | at least the releases with change info is sent to the mailing list | 11:12 |
| E-P | kyyberi: I will try to comment your questions in the bug tomorrow | 11:12 |
| kyyberi | hmm...prolly somewhere else too. | 11:12 |
| kyyberi | E-P: great | 11:12 |
| timoph | iirc those have consistent titles | 11:12 |
| phaeron | kyyberi: lbt and I might have input on that too | 11:13 |
| timoph | so should be possible to identify the mails but true, a static source would be better | 11:13 |
| kyyberi | phaeron: yeah :) | 11:13 |
| kyyberi | timoph: agree | 11:13 |
| phaeron | kyyberi: we'll talk once the re meeting is done | 11:14 |
| kyyberi | phaeron: k | 11:14 |
| phaeron | btw does someone know what qa-dashboard does ? | 11:15 |
| phaeron | kyyberi: it might help if you look at it and see if it can be reused or parts of it used | 11:15 |
| * lbt just mumbles : modular, modular, modular ... and wants to see that.... | 11:17 | |
| kyyberi | lbt: :) | 11:17 |
| E-P | phaeron: IIRC it summarizes the qa-results | 11:18 |
| kyyberi | current features are modular if not being dependant of each other is the criteria | 11:18 |
| kyyberi | but not packed to easy-to-install gems | 11:19 |
| kyyberi | which would be great | 11:19 |
| phaeron | E-P: is it useful or do we just slurp data from qa-reports | 11:20 |
| lbt | kyyberi: independent git trees and deployment schedules | 11:20 |
| kyyberi | lbt: i see | 11:20 |
| lbt | yes, there can be version dependencies | 11:20 |
| E-P | phaeron: it has nice graphs :) | 11:20 |
| E-P | I haven't used it much | 11:21 |
| phaeron | E-P: so does qa-reports itself, so the question is , have links in kyyberi's dash to qa-reports or use qa-dashboard as module in in kyyberi's dash etc .. | 11:21 |
| E-P | phaeron: for me the links are enough | 11:22 |
| E-P | and passed, failed, n/a numbers | 11:23 |
| phaeron | yeah. I think we'll have to extend the qa-reports rest-api a bit though | 11:24 |
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| E-P | phaeron: yes that, or boss/ots will update the results | 11:25 |
| phaeron | E-P: I am working on the boss participant to upload test results to qa-reports, can be used with both vm tests or ots / something else device tests | 11:26 |
| phaeron | the rest api for qa-reports can be used to upload test results. however it doesn't return any meaningful data , not even the report id afaics | 11:27 |
| E-P | phaeron: good. ots had plugin for that, so you can reuse the code | 11:27 |
| phaeron | E-P: where, I was writing from scratch, it's not that difficult | 11:27 |
| E-P | phaeron: yep, the api returns only the link to the results | 11:27 |
| E-P | https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-quality-assurance/ots/trees/master/ots.plugin.qareports | 11:28 |
| phaeron | E-P: if it does that should be a starting point to add a "GET report/id" , the api reference doesn't say there is such an operation | 11:29 |
| E-P | phaeron: the api returns the url when you have uploaded the data, otherwise you cannot get anything out of qa-reports | 11:31 |
| phaeron | yes I am saying code has to be written for that :) | 11:32 |
| E-P | I should learn to read :) | 11:32 |
| E-P | anyway, indeed if its needed | 11:33 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/minicom.n900.cap | 11:47 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: \o/ | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: so why is it dying.. | 11:49 |
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| Sage_ | discussing at #systemd :) | 11:49 |
| phaeron | Suppressing connection request on systemd-udevd-kernel.socket since unit stop is scheduled. ? | 11:49 |
| * kyyberi back | 11:53 | |
| phaeron | Sage_: boot.mount changed mounting -> failed | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: mention e2fsprogs version at some point as well.. | 11:54 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you do "ln -sf /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab" and retry? | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: hmm, i suppose so | 11:55 |
| Sage_ | I did ../proc/self/mounts but maybe it is about the .. thingy | 11:55 |
| Sage_ | however, on x86 that same link doesn't cause that problem | 11:55 |
| phaeron | Sage_: also systemd-fsck looks failed | 11:55 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: well that fails on x86 as well | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/minicom.n900.1.cap | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | Cannot add dependency job for unit display-manager.service, ignoring: Unit display-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status display-manager.service' for details. | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | 11:58 | |
| Stskeeps | ? | 11:58 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: the compatibility stuff removed had something to do with uxlaunch ? | 11:59 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: same on x86 uxlaunch probably should provide display-manager or something? | 12:00 |
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| Stskeeps | probably yeah | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | hello Vilsepi :) | 12:01 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you try ln -sf ../proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab and see if the warning reappears? | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | which specific warning? | 12:01 |
| Sage_ | if it does then I need to fix that thing in the packaging | 12:01 |
| Sage_ | /etc/mtab is not a symlink or not pointing to /proc/self/mounts. This is not supported anymore. Please make sure to replace this file by a symlink to avoid incorrect or misleading mount(8) output. | 12:01 |
| Sage_ | Using cgroup controller name=systemd. File system hierarchy is at /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/system. | 12:01 |
| Vilsepi | Stskeeps: hello | 12:01 |
| Sage_ | or well maybe we should use /proc/self/mounts as is anyway | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | Vilsepi: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 12:01 |
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| Vilsepi | Stskeeps: I did my thesis last year on building meego in the cloud with OBS | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | Vilsepi: oh cool :) the one with EC2? | 12:02 |
| Vilsepi | yah | 12:02 |
| Vilsepi | and I heard rumors that there might be some interest to research on OBS again | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | was a good read, compared to other thesis'es i've seen :) | 12:03 |
| Vilsepi | ty | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we discussed this a bit and we are glad to let you play with our things and see what can be done :) | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | many interesting challenges | 12:03 |
| Vilsepi | yeah i agree | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | and more than happy to help getting you started, as well | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i just nuked my own mtab, i hope this won't be a problem.. | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:04 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: lol :D | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | Vilsepi: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process is somewhat where we're trying to go | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | Vilsepi: we also have something called MDS so anybody can reproduce mer anywhere | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | ie, do rebuilds, research recompiles, optimizations, etc | 12:07 |
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| vgrade_ | Vilsepi: We have a meeting today you may be interested in, http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00622.html ,see the log for a discussion of OBS research | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/minicom.n900.2.cap | 12:08 |
| Vilsepi | alright, I'll take a look of those, thanks guys | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | Vilsepi: if there's any questions at any time, feel free to ask :) | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade_: i'll probably be at dentist sadly | 12:10 |
| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: np | 12:10 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4316293 try these + that mount with absolute path | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | mmkay | 12:12 |
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| * Sage_ added mnt so that Stskeeps doesn't use it to his host ;) | 12:13 | |
| kyyberi | lbt: so creating gems seems to be only rational option. Need to learn that then. | 12:15 |
| lbt | yes - it's not hard | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/minicom.n900.3cap | 12:15 |
| lbt | note we'll be using bundler to consolidate the gems into a package for deployment | 12:16 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: still no UX? | 12:16 |
| kyyberi | lbt: ok | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: still no UX, blinks a couple of times | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i dont see ti-omap3-sgx starting either | 12:16 |
| Sage_ | what about usb networking? | 12:17 |
| Sage_ | does it come up? | 12:17 |
| * lbt wonders if his connman wifi networking scripts may help if there's no serial port? | 12:17 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i don't have a working serial port | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | check what services are launching | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | plymouth-lite shows up however | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | err | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | working usb port | 12:18 |
| Sage_ | ? :) | 12:19 |
| Sage_ | ah that | 12:19 |
| Sage_ | :P | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | Activating default unit: default.target | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | Trying to enqueue job graphical.target/start/replace | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | Cannot add dependency job for unit display-manager.service, ignoring: Unit display-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status display-manager.service' for details. | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | isn't it just that uxlaunch isn't starting / providing as d-m | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 12:28 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ok, systemd requires fsck from util-linux 2.19+ and we have fsck from e2fsprogs | 12:30 |
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| Sage_ | or something like that | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | Alias=display-manager.service in uxlaunch.service.in | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | what's going on here.. | 12:31 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: is it ok to change it from e2fsprogs to util-linux? | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i guess so | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | but why can't systemd find display-manager.service -> uxlaunch? | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:33 |
| Sage_ | we should disable some of those services that we don't use | 12:34 |
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| Stskeeps | either way, why does this work on x86 and not here? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | can you see what display-manager.service is set to on x86? | 12:41 |
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| vgrade_ | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1131267 | 12:45 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: any change you could look at the util-linux gplv3 thingy? | 12:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: yes, but not today | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | assign to me | 12:58 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: have time to do couple of more tests still today? After I get this util-linux and e2fsprogs mess settlet? | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | no, going to dentist :( | 13:20 |
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| rcg | may i bother some of you to also have a look at http://review.merproject.org/#change,636 :) | 13:22 |
| rcg | uhh.. Stskeeps good luck with the dentist! | 13:23 |
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| rcg | going to the dentist, even for a regular check-up, feels a little like being checked by a cop.. for whatever reason you always feel somewhat guilty even if you are pretty sure you didn't do anything wrong... | 13:24 |
| Vilsepi | "This is dentist brutality!" | 13:28 |
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| sroedal_ | reminds me of the polish dentist who sedated her ex and removed all his teeth, when he came to her for an appointment after a nasty break-up | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal_: my previous (polish, but living in .dk) dentist claimed that female dentists were more bloodthirsty | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal_: ironically i'm going to a polish dentist.. though not an ex | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | : | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | P | 13:30 |
| sroedal_ | but when I now google for it it turns out the story had no teeth: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/vengeful-teeth-pulling-dentist-story-deemed-hoax-152703370.html | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | my ex's polish mother had poured saltwater in all the electronics of her cheating boyfriend.. | 13:31 |
| sroedal_ | so you can rest a little bit easier | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:31 |
| sroedal_ | lol | 13:31 |
| Paimen | well I need to be carefull if I ever broke with my wife | 13:31 |
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| Paimen | she is not a dentist, but oral hygienist. Still I bet she knows lot of dentists from this area ;) | 13:32 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: giving e2fsprogs and util-linux update at the same just to ensure no more problems :) | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:39 |
| Sage_ | old versions seem to haunt us atm. | 13:40 |
| * Sage_ really hopes these changes will finally get the systemd up and running | 13:41 | |
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| Sage_ | :( | 14:18 |
| Sage_ | but I don't have serial so makes it hard to find out what changed | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'll be back in 2-3 hours | 14:18 |
| lbt | Sage_: connman wifi ? | 14:22 |
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| vgrade_ | Sage_: was systemd 41 the last working? | 14:32 |
| Sage_ | vgrade_: yes | 14:34 |
| Sage_ | lbt: ? | 14:34 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: well at least fsck and that mtab errors are now gone by default. | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok good | 14:58 |
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| vgrade_ | OBS Meeting on #mer-meeting in 5 | 15:55 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: hi | 17:28 |
| kyyberi | lbt: around? | 17:28 |
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| Stskeeps | situ: 'lo | 17:28 |
| situ | What's up ? | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | not much.. having an interesting evening reviewing CVs | 17:29 |
| kyyberi | any suggestions for tools to use in making gems. Engine approach, railtie...or jeweler (https://github.com/technicalpickles/jeweler) | 17:29 |
| kyyberi | Stskeeps :) | 17:29 |
| situ | Ok.. I sent a patch yesterday, did you check it ? | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | situ: i've been a little busy and sick, and no - generally i wait for automatic testing to go through, but at the moment we're wrapping up a release, and when that's wrapped up, we admit new changes | 17:30 |
| situ | Ok. | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | which URL to the change? | 17:31 |
| situ | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,691 | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so when adding -l it would start logging to .xsession-errors? | 17:34 |
| situ | Yeah. | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | add this information in .changes file and i think it looks fine | 17:34 |
| situ | It's there. | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | nop, Made logging errors in .xsession-errors optional. | 17:35 |
| situ | I didn't mention the flag naem. | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't explain how to activate it :) | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: it's just that when you're browsing through a changelog, you don't want to look into every single patch | 17:35 |
| situ | Can I do it in separate commit (Just change the .changes file) ? | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | fixing the change is a matter of changing .changes file, git add, git commit --amend and add the Change-Id: I2e80a7f07e9b46a82108bbd2e8df13df8f6376f1 in commit message | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | and git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master again | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Re-submit_if_original_change_was_rejected | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | otherwise it looks fine, i'm just nitpicking :) | 17:41 |
| lbt | kyyberi: not at the moment ... bbiab though - ask alterego | 17:41 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Should I add Changeset a top of commit ? | 17:41 |
| situ | at * | 17:41 |
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| situ | ok found it, it should be after signed off line. | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | situ: yes | 17:43 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: now | 17:48 |
| kyyberi | lbt: ok | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | situ: much better, thank you | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | situ: feel free to mark as RESOLVED-FIXED and i'll take it from here | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | it'll get reviewed automatically, and then i'll merge when there's a window open fori t | 17:50 |
| kyyberi | alterego: experiences in making rails gems? Need advice on tools to use. | 17:50 |
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| kyyberi | alterego: I have code, which is mostly just controllers, partials and views (+css+js). Need pack those in gems | 17:51 |
| kyyberi | and manage the versions easily :) | 17:52 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Should I leave review url there too ? | 17:52 |
| kyyberi | alterego: ofc migrations should go there as well | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | situ: yes please | 17:53 |
| kyyberi | I must say that this dashboard thingy is a God send (not that I believe in God), I've had thoughts about doing this kind of app for about a year. | 17:56 |
| kyyberi | thanks for the chance :) | 17:57 |
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| Stskeeps | :) | 18:01 |
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| vgrade2 | evening | 18:06 |
| timoph | o/ | 18:06 |
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| vgrade2 | not many people in the OBS meeting, my late agenda posting and summer evenings probably, will try to give more notice next time and ping people with actions | 18:08 |
| alterego | kyyberi: you want to put migrations in gems? | 18:08 |
| alterego | Seems a bit strange. | 18:08 |
| * timoph forgot | 18:08 | |
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| vgrade2 | timoph, np | 18:08 |
| vgrade2 | just Sage_ and I there | 18:09 |
| vgrade2 | alterego hi | 18:09 |
| alterego | Hey :) | 18:10 |
| vgrade2 | fancy a day out at the linux automotive conf in Sept | 18:10 |
| alterego | Sounds fun, | 18:10 |
| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken is over | 18:10 |
| alterego | and sept is quite free for me I think | 18:10 |
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| alterego | cool, | 18:10 |
| alterego | dates? | 18:10 |
| vgrade2 | might get a Mer crowd | 18:10 |
| vgrade2 | 19-20 Sept | 18:11 |
| Paimen | that would be cool, but I think I'm not one my company sends there :P | 18:12 |
| alterego | hrm, where is it vgrade2 ? | 18:13 |
| alterego | Looks like I'm free then so far :) | 18:13 |
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| vgrade2 | Gaydon | 18:15 |
| alterego | Ah, not too far then | 18:15 |
| Alison_Chaiken | vgrade2 and alterego, prpplague from #pandaboard and I will be travelling to Bletchley Park for a pilgrimage on 9/18 if anyone wants to join. | 18:15 |
| vgrade2 | 1/2 a mile for Jaguar | 18:15 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Taking train from Warwick, where Auto Linux Summit is. | 18:15 |
| alterego | Bloody warick .. | 18:16 |
| vgrade2 | alterego, ? | 18:20 |
| alterego | Nothing, ;) | 18:20 |
| alterego | Ex Lives there :) | 18:21 |
| alterego | a.k.a. "The B*tch" | 18:21 |
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| alterego | Not that it'll stop me going :P | 18:22 |
| vgrade2 | lets see if we can get a Mer crowd going | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | tshirts would be good to have ;) | 18:24 |
| alterego | Still don't have t-shirt | 18:24 |
| alterego | I have asked several hundred times :P | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 18:24 |
| vgrade2 | I thought there were spares from the first batch | 18:25 |
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| vgrade2 | not too far for lbt, he could bring some | 18:26 |
| kyyberi | alterego: well, how's the system then able to create database tables if there are no migration rules? | 18:26 |
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| kyyberi | I must have misunderstood something about rails | 18:26 |
| alterego | kyyberi: no, you're completely right, it just seems weird to me :P | 18:27 |
| alterego | I'd recommend you look at a pre-existing rails plugin that has a database migration set in there, and base yours on that. | 18:28 |
| vgrade2 | sledges, going to linux automotive conf? | 18:28 |
| kyyberi | alterego: ah, now I know what you mean. User normally uses generators and those create migration rules. That would be the case here too. So, no ready-made migrations to gem :) | 18:30 |
| kyyberi | but the tools to use in creating gems. Or the approach, there seems to be a few options. | 18:31 |
| kyyberi | I haven't created gems before | 18:32 |
| alterego | kyyberi: either have I, the key is in the .gemspec file though | 18:33 |
| alterego | That's all you need to know really, then you run gem build on it. | 18:33 |
| alterego | afair | 18:33 |
| alterego | ;) | 18:33 |
| kyyberi | haha, yeah I've read that it's about that..mostly | 18:34 |
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| alterego | Right, gonna reinforce my dbus and pa connectivity code now .. | 18:36 |
| kyyberi | in rails 3.x tendency is to make gems more and more like small scale engines (rails it self is an engine), but I've read that in some cases that's an overkill | 18:36 |
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| kyyberi | engines act as independent features | 18:36 |
| kyyberi | but I got to test and see what fits our situation | 18:36 |
| alterego | Very much depends on the complexity of the system, but for a complex enough solution, then yes, usually each part is sub-divided in to a component/engine/system of it's own. | 18:37 |
| kyyberi | yeah | 18:38 |
| kyyberi | I think that is what lbt is after | 18:39 |
| kyyberi | make each 'feature' as independent as possible, for sure gems but still uncertain how much engine kind. | 18:40 |
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| kyyberi | well, we'll see | 18:45 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: Hi! Did you change something in Mer Gerrit? I've been able to register with it today using my OpenID provider. | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: hmm, not to my knowledge | 19:24 |
| [ol] | Interesting. :-) | 19:25 |
| [ol] | I've installed the real SSL certificate on my HTTPS server, but the error produced by openid4java was indicating a different problem. | 19:26 |
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| alterego | ul 24 22:54:29 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[656]: alsa-source-old.c: Resume failed, couldn't restore original sample settings. | 19:52 |
| alterego | Jul 24 22:54:29 localhost.localdomain pulseaudio[653]: main.c: Daemon startup failed. | 19:52 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: another thing with current prerelease when updating local buildroot http://pastie.org/4326207 | 20:37 |
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| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4326312 ah, didn't know that. | 20:56 |
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| sobczyk | hi, I have n900 and using power kernel, is there any way for having power kernel and uboot? | 22:37 |
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| sobczyk | for booting mer (nemo) off the external card | 22:38 |
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