Saturday, 2012-07-21

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Alison_Chaikenvgrade2, I will be staying at the Hilton Warwick from Monday 9/17 through Friday 9/21, although I'll be pretty busy Weds-Fri.00:19
Alison_ChaikenThen on Friday afternoon I'm headed to London for a long weekend.00:19
Alison_ChaikenLet me buy you dinner 9/17 or lunch on 9/18 on something?00:19
Alison_ChaikenI may of course have to meet with $CUSTOMER during that time.00:20
Alison_ChaikenWill you vgrade2, be attending Automotive Linux Summit at all?00:20
Alison_ChaikenOr will anyone else?00:20
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* lbt rolls in rather late from Tango - Stskeeps, yell if you need a release and I'll check as soon as I wake up.02:08
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* Sage_ branches glibc to his systemd repo07:31
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* Stskeeps merges changes..07:32
Sage_Stskeeps: saw my comment about util-linux?07:32
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Stskeepsgplv3 one?07:33
StskeepsSage_: bug please07:34
Sage_lib/mbsalign.c is gplv3 and used in many things it seems07:34
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Stskeepsthat one seems like it should be replacable with a gplv2 version of itself tbh07:35
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Sage_glibc is also package that compiles in single host only?07:39
Sage_does it requires huge amount resources as well?07:39
Sage_so why like that?07:40
Stskeepswell, it's not set like that in mer CI at least07:41
Sage_in community obs it is07:41
Sage_lbt: ^07:41
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Sage_or seems like that at least as 3 builds and two are scheduled and only one builds when there is a lot of free workers07:42
Sage_Stskeeps: can one see from glibc build already if it corrupted or not?07:45
vgrade2Alison_Chaiken, I've rehistered for the conf but not sure how mucj I'll be able to attend.  I'm sure we can arrange a time during that week for a meetup07:45
StskeepsSage_: no07:46
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Sage_... my branched glibc failed in build...07:49
Sage_ /usr/bin/ld:/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/eglibc-2.15/build-i686-linuxnptl/ syntax error07:49
Stskeepsright, do a rebuild07:49
Stskeepsand tell me what make -j it was07:50
Sage_make -j407:50
Stskeepsfile a bug so we track that issue07:50
Stskeepsi've seen it before07:50
Stskeepsi think it's some kind of race condition07:51
* Sage_ seems to be having bug morning07:56
Sage_The file you are trying to attach is 6560 kilobytes (KB) in size. Non-patch attachments cannot be more than 1000 KB.07:56
Sage_when doing a new bug with attachment it only says that error not what error. Second time it says that file is too big :)07:57
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* Stskeeps recompiles glibc08:06
Stskeepsthere's this really bizarre 'sorting' bug somewhere08:06
Stskeepswhere the usual sorting of things goes mad08:06
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Sage_Stskeeps: sorting?08:10
Sage_Stskeeps: btw, one thing about util-linux and sb2. Currently sb2 preinstalls util-linux and then uses mount. e.g., fedora has separated libmount to separate package now and if I do that mount in sb2 fails as the preinstall doesn't take into account the dependencies.08:11
Stskeepsok, that can be fixed08:12
StskeepsSage_: yeah, like, directory names, or strings, get sorted in wrong order at times08:12
Stskeepsi'm a little unclear as to why that happens08:12
Sage_Stskeeps: ah, ok. That kind of sorting bug.08:12
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Sage_Stskeeps: can I introduce the fix for that sb2 thingy in my project or does it need to be introduced to obs level?08:13
Stskeepssend a fix to sb2-tools-template in git08:14
Sage_I was mainly asking how can I test that in cobs :)08:14
Stskeepsand run sh precheckin.sh08:14
Stskeepsgenerally you don't :P08:14
Stskeepsshow me the error you get with mount?08:14
phaeronwhat's the point of having split libmount and mount ?08:16
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Sage_phaeron: no idea actually.08:19
Sage_as you can't really boot the systemd without mount I guess08:20
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Sage_and nothing else is using libmount?08:20
* Stskeeps runs glibc test suite..08:21
phaeronSage_: I am just not sure about copying packaging as is :)08:24
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StskeepsNIH is good to avoid :P08:27
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Stskeepsgood morning situ08:28
situHow're you ?08:28
Stskeepsi'm good, we're sorting out a systemd upgrade that's giving us gray hairs08:28
situCould I help ?08:29
Stskeepshmm, well, i guess we could need some validation on r-pi boot at some point too08:29
Stskeepsi'm also (in build phase) running through glibc test suite to check some stuff08:30
situI have installed Mer SDK.08:30
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phaeronStskeeps: NIH makes sense when the invention is not useful08:30
situBut I think I need to install lots of other tools too, have not got time to play much with it.08:30
Stskeepssdk is a good start08:30
Stskeepsmorn rcg08:31
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* Sage_ builds image with rebuilt glibc09:04
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niqtI came home after a week in  turkey  without internet.  are there news?09:08
Stskeepsniqt: well, did you miss the Jolla news?09:10
rcghad there been any improvement on randr support for omapfb?09:13
rcgi.e., am looking for a way to change the orientation09:14
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rcgmight be the wrong channel for that question, though :)09:15
Stskeepsrcg: no, and xrandr rotation is too slow for general purposes09:16
Stskeepsit's better to have apps be fullscreen and rotate themselves09:17
rcgStskeeps: i see, so in case of plasma active the "windowmanager" or what it is called should take care of it?09:18
Stskeepsthe apps themselves typically09:19
rcgi see09:20
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* Sage_ got annoyed by constant error in nano uninstall and decided to give it a go09:26
Sage_hmp... meegotochhome starts on Mer with the latest systemd on vm at least09:35
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* Sage_ ponders why N900 doesn't boot properly09:37
Sage_glibc broke kernel?09:37
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StskeepsSage_: shouldn't09:43
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cristidoes anyone have a rasPi with USB-TTL/UART adapter?09:47
cristiI just bought this one, but it would take a few weeks to get it
cristiand I need it to debug the kernel failure on my Pi09:51
Sage_qemu: Unsupported syscall: 35509:57
Sage_Failed to allocate manager object: Function not implemented09:57
StskeepsSage_: why are you running systemd on qemu..09:57
Stskeepscristi: aren't you just running into the -mno-unaligned-access problem perhaps?09:57
Sage_Stskeeps: trying to get the test output that solved problems with i58609:57
Sage_I have no idea why N900 goes to boot loop and I can't get the test output so hard to debug :(09:57
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cristiStskeeps: I still applied the -mno-unaligned-access patch09:58
StskeepsSage_: remove 'quiet' from n900 kernel?09:58
StskeepsSage_: if you can't solve by tonight, i'll put it on a jig09:59
Sage_Stskeeps: the thing is that I have output but it is like 1000 lines in a second to the screen :D09:59
StskeepsSage_: ah09:59
Sage_and I don't have jig or highspeed camera :D09:59
Sage_I would really like to see "/lib/systemd/systemd --test --system" output from N90010:00
Stskeepslet me just get the obs building first10:00
Sage_x86 boots to the UI on Nemo at least so it is probably in adaptation10:01
Stskeepswhat was the mce.service issue i saw?10:01
Stskeepstry rm mce.service and boo10:02
Sage_well without mce screen doesn't come up, right?10:05
Sage_but it is not that as mce is running fine on x8610:05
Stskeepsthings should work fine without mce, afaik10:06
Stskeepslbt: where's the VPN endpoint at?10:07
Stskeepslbt: also, is on a phost or in a vm?10:07
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rcghi erci11:13
ali1234about early kernel log: the android/htc hackers have a patch that puts the kernel log into a ram console which survives a reboot...11:20
RaYmAnandroid/htc hackers? More like core android kernel functionality :P and yeah, It's extremely useful :)11:21
ali1234yeah i just found it's official part of android now11:21
ali1234but it existed before android :)11:21
ali1234back when htc only made winmo phones11:21
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cristiStskeeps: it looks like it boots now, I just had to reflash it (zypper up didn't work)11:24
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ercin9  can  run   firefox os! so  cool11:25
cristisure it can, N900 was able to do it 2 years ago11:27
cristinever mind me11:27
cristiwell, firefox OS is sharing the foundation with Android, and N9 hardware is more or less working on android too11:28
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badgerHello from bus13:50
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badgerWhat sw you use to connect to irssi with n913:54
chouchounessh ;)13:55
badgerI used to use terminal but at some point it closed screen at shutdown13:55
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badgerDidn't have that problem with n95013:56
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Stskeepsbadger: screen has a setting for autodetach14:05
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situStskeeps: Hi18:18
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situI am having a look at bug list.18:18
situI would like to try solving :
Stskeepsmm, i think timoph may have been looking at that already18:19
Stskeepscan you prod him and see if he's working on it, and if so, ask him to set it to assigned?18:19
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situtimoph: Could you confirm you're working on it ?18:20
Stskeepsgot any other suggestions for bugs to try out?18:20
situI was starting from bottom :P18:20
situWhat about this one ?18:22
Stskeepstry one of the ones where you just have to change an URL for instance18:23
Stskeepsor updating a package18:23
Stskeepsfor example 259, 260, etc18:23
Stskeepsthat's a good start18:23
Stskeepsshows simple contribution in action18:26
Stskeepsand then move up18:27
situI am not sure how to go about it.18:27
PaimenStskeeps: hmm and I promised to merge TDriver qt5 :P18:28
Paimensimple indeed18:28
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cristiStskeeps: any ideas why this would appear to run fine on the rasppi hw adaptation but nothing appear on the screen: ?18:46
situStskeeps: I am trying to follow is that fine ?18:46
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Stskeepscristi: is x up?18:58
cristino, I didn't even install it18:59
Stskeepscristi: ok, a good start..18:59
Stskeepscristi: and and set up correctly?18:59
cristithey look like that, the qt libs needing EGL and GLESv2 appear to use them in ldd19:00
Stskeepshdmi or s-video?19:00
cristiI added /opt/vc/lib to ldpath and symlinked and to /usr/lib19:00
Stskeepsdoes qmlscene -platform eglfs work on it's own?19:01
cristiit appears to run but only as root19:01
cristiwhen I run it as the mer user it just exits19:02
Stskeepsyeah, you probably need some udev rules19:02
Stskeepsto allow access to /dev/vchiq19:02
cristiokay, I didn't know about that device file19:02
cristiI will create udev rules for it19:03
Stskeepsappears to run = also showing anything on screen?19:04
cristiI will give omxplayer a try19:04
cristino, it just blocks the console19:05
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Stskeepsdoes the hello_pi examples work?19:06
Stskeepsthere's some that test egl and such19:06
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Stskeepsjust take the ones from debian, should link fine on mer19:12
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situHow should I download rpm sources ? mer-core-source doesn't seem to be valid repository.19:17
cristiI will try them19:18
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cristisitu: edit the repo file19:19
cristisitu: the source repos are not enabled by default19:19
situI enabled them with zypper.19:19
cristizypper ref?19:19
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cristithen maybe they're not in the repo...19:19
situzypper ref tells me that mer-core-source is not valid repository.19:20
Stskeepswe don't actually have srpms19:21
situHow should I go about modifying .spec file ?19:21
Stskeepsthis is a bit controversial move, but the srpms that obs produces do not qualify for gpl's "scripts and stuff to reproduce a build"19:21
Stskeepsall our stuff is in git19:22
ali1234they don't?19:22
Stskeepsali1234: no, if a file is missing in Source*: it doesn't get included19:22
Stskeepsali1234: we've had some examples of this going wrong19:22
ali1234i don't really understand what that means19:22
Stskeepsmeaning that if there's no reference to it in .spec file it doesn't get included in the final rpm19:23
Stskeepser, srpm19:23
ali1234that's... weird19:23
Stskeepslong story short, we fix this in mer by giving git repos for package, tools to set up your own obs and make a replica that way19:23
ali1234well, i do like the convenience of being able to build packages directly on the target19:24
Stskeepsand you can, just git clone19:25
ali1234but which revision?19:25
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Stskeepsup to you :)19:25
Stskeepsanyway, i gotta go back to wine and a movie19:26
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ali1234of course anything with git is a win :)19:26
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situI am trying to setup an account at gerrit and it tells me provider not allow. What does that mean /19:36
Stskeepssitu: what openid provider are you using19:36
situIt has to be with openid ?19:36
Stskeepsgoogle, yahoo, or openid19:37
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situWhy does executing 'osc ls' tells me "basic auth failed" ?19:49
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Stskeepssitu: get a account and ask lbt to enable it for obs20:09
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situCan I directly clone repositories for and make changes ?20:11
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Stskeepsyes, through gerrit, ssh://
Stskeepsthough build testing is preferred first20:12
situI would prefer it.20:13
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cristiStskeeps: the demos seem to work20:29
Stskeepscristi: hmm20:30
Stskeepscristi: got a .ks?20:30
cristisure, one sec20:31
Stskeepsand if you could do a rpm -qa | sort output for me too20:32
cristiI installed some more packages manually afterwards, I hope not to mess this up20:33
Stskeepswhere's the gfx libs?20:35
cristihere's the package list:
Stskeepsok, something looks wrong when mesa is also installed20:36
cristiI tried to install egl-utils which got mesa20:37
Stskeepsshow me gfx-libs-raspPi on community obs?20:37
Stskeepsyeah, try mer-gfx-tests next time :)20:37
Stskeepsls -l /usr/lib/ ?20:38
cristilrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2012-07-21 10:43 /usr/lib/ -> ../../opt/vc/lib/libEGL.so20:38
cristi/usr/bin/eglinfo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ undefined symbol: glDiscardFramebufferEXT20:39
cristithis is broken20:39
Stskeepsyeah, get mer-gfx-tests instead20:39
Stskeepsit has a saner eglinfo20:39
Stskeepsif you see mesa-* on an arm device, you know you've got a problem :)20:39
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cristisame issue20:41
Stskeepscan you make the bcm libraries install into /usr/lib directly and avoid the /opt/vc stuff?20:42
Stskeepsas a start20:42
cristiI put them there and used ldconfig20:42
cristiand created symlinks for and in /usr/lib20:43
Stskeepstrying to find my testcase i use on r-pi for gles20:43
cristiit looks like they don't implement glDiscardFramebufferEXT20:45
Stskeepschmod +x, run20:45
timophsitu: not started working on it yet20:46
cristi ./glestest220:46
cristishader info: Compiledshader info: Compiledfps: 1852.0620:46
cristifps: 3007.3420:46
cristibut nothing on the screen20:46
Stskeepsthat's curious20:47
Stskeeps3007 seems a bit extreme, to20:47
timophalthough I'd wait for offline report support before implementing it20:47
Stskeepscristi: does hello_triange work?20:48
Stskeepsfrom the raspberry demos20:48
cristiI can see a triangle on the screen20:49
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Stskeepsit was my understanding that using dispmanx wasn20:50
Stskeeps't needed anymore20:50
cristione sec20:50
cristiI meant another demo20:50
cristione sec, trying to get it compiled20:51
cristiI had tried these
cristiand those worked20:54
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Stskeepsi'll have to continue tomorrow, now it's sleep time for me :P20:55
situStskeeps: Good night :)20:56
Stskeeps is why20:57
Stskeepscristi: can you verify that the firmware git blob is fairly up to date?20:57
cristiI updated to latest stuff available20:58
cristiI will try a bit more20:58
Stskeepsso they made dispmanx mandatory, well, that's a step back..20:58
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situAny reviewers around ?21:18
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cristisitu: just try21:34
situyou're a reviewer ?21:35
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situI need someone to review my patch.21:37
CosmoHillcan't you submit it somewhere for review?21:37
situI submitted on gerrit.21:37
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situAm I not required to add reviewers to my patch ?21:42
CosmoHillI don't know, I've never submitted one21:44
CosmoHillthey must be something on the wiki about it21:45
situcristi: you there ?21:48
cristilemme take a look21:49
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situ,681 Are we having any problems with build bots ?21:50
cristino idea21:51
situI just added one line, AFAIK it can't break build.21:52
cristiand it's an inoffensive one21:53
cristiand it shouldn't break build21:53
situWhat parts you're working on ?21:55
cristiI'm not working on Mer per-se21:56
cristiI'm trying to get the hardware adaptation for raspberry pi work on mer21:57
cristiincluding 3D acceleration21:57
* CosmoHill has a pi21:57
situYou're doing it just as hobby or for any company ?21:59
situWhy did you chose Mer ?22:00
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cristisitu: why not?22:02
situDidn't you have any other options ? :P22:03
situI am just asking what do you find interesting about Mer.22:03
cristiI like the way it is trying to get people working on different mobile OSes to share a common core22:05
cristiand it makes it really easy to build your own OS based on this core22:08
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cristiStskeeps: all the demos coming from them work on my Pi, so it looks like the hardware adaptation is fine22:30
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cristimaybe the qt5 build that we have is missing something...22:32
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cristisuch as the dispmanx...22:34
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lbtsitu done your account22:45
cristilbt: can you explain the issue situ has with his review?22:52
cristihe just added an URL: entry to a spec file and the build bot gave him -122:53
lbtcristi: no, that looks like a bot issue22:55
cristior could it be that we need to bump the revision number whenever do changes to the spec?22:55
lbtno need (yet)22:56
lbtcurrently we auto increment based on number of commits - there are issues with that though so it will change22:56
phaeronhopefully soon :D22:58
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lbtoh please yes23:04
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phaeronlbt: are you in the right channel ? :D23:08
lbtgosh, I meant to type that to someone completely different!23:08
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