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iekku | morning | 03:26 |
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ericc | ??????????????、 | 03:31 |
iekku | ? | 03:33 |
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ericc | the irc is hacked | 03:41 |
Stskeeps | no, just bad client | 03:41 |
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ericc | 11:36 11:37 11:38 so fast | 03:41 |
ericc | = Stskeeps is use windwos | 03:43 |
Stskeeps | no | 03:43 |
ericc | which irc tools do i have in windows? | 03:45 |
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Paimen | morning all | 05:05 |
iekku | morning paimen | 05:09 |
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E-P | Morning | 05:44 |
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E-P | Stskeeps: you have the Mer core package list with architecture domains, can you send that to me via email? | 05:47 |
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Stskeeps | E-P: got meetings today, setting reminder for later today | 05:53 |
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E-P | Stskeeps: ok, no hurry | 05:54 |
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timoph | morning | 06:04 |
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ericc | Stskeeps how i can run mer on win7?? | 06:05 |
E-P | morning timoph | 06:06 |
Stskeeps | ericc: virtual machine | 06:07 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: OK for prerelease | 07:15 |
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mdfe_ | good morning | 07:57 |
Stskeeps | morn mdfe_ | 07:57 |
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slaine | morning folks | 08:00 |
Stskeeps | morn | 08:00 |
rcg | sup guys? | 08:02 |
Stskeeps | not much | 08:02 |
rcg | ic | 08:02 |
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timoph | E-P: do we have libssh2 enabled in tr-lite? | 08:10 |
E-P | timoph: just a sec | 08:11 |
lbt | morning all | 08:12 |
E-P | timoph: I guess not, if it's not enabled by default | 08:12 |
rcg | morning lbt | 08:13 |
lbt | Stskeeps: pre-release, OK | 08:13 |
lbt | hey rcg | 08:13 |
E-P | morning lbt o/ | 08:14 |
E-P | timoph: no, it's not | 08:15 |
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timoph | ack | 08:20 |
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E-P | timoph: it requires libssh2 package and that isn't in the mer SDK at the moment | 08:21 |
timoph | E-P: ok. was just checking that I'm compiling it with the same options | 08:21 |
E-P | timoph: ok | 08:22 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: phost6 has lost a worker .... just fy | 08:24 |
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lbt | i | 08:24 |
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lbt | phaeron: apparently the caffiene hasn't made it all the way | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | lbt: yes, why? | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:24 |
lbt | upstream tmpfs solution is more flakey than /fast (but less risk of inter-job corruption) | 08:25 |
lbt | Stskeeps: also I think you saw w00t break gitweb/gerrit - looked like very low mem | 08:26 |
w00t | sowwie | 08:26 |
lbt | restarted services and all seems well | 08:26 |
* lbt glares at w00t | 08:26 | |
* w00t wears the D hat | 08:26 | |
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lbt | silly chap ... clicking on a webpage! | 08:27 |
slaine | phost6 seems to have lots of problems lately | 08:27 |
lbt | slaine: mer CI | 08:27 |
slaine | didn't it loose a disk also | 08:27 |
lbt | no, that was 5 | 08:28 |
slaine | my mistake | 08:28 |
lbt | np :) | 08:28 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: CI is locked | 08:39 |
Stskeeps | locked? | 08:40 |
lbt | http://airy:5001/Release%20steps | 08:40 |
Stskeeps | ok | 08:40 |
lbt | just thought I should say something :) | 08:40 |
lbt | mmm we have 4 pre-release tags? | 08:41 |
Stskeeps | yes | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | not prerelease | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | snapshot | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | 0.1 = first snapshot | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | err | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | first prerelease | 08:42 |
lbt | ah, by habit I was doing a snapshot as the first step | 08:42 |
lbt | none of those have gone to cobs have they? | 08:43 |
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Stskeeps | no | 08:46 |
Stskeeps | they weren't suitable | 08:46 |
Stskeeps | they were for copyprj | 08:46 |
Stskeeps | and didn't have cross builds | 08:47 |
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dreamer_ | hello Stskeeps | 09:06 |
Stskeeps | dreamer_: welcome :) so what brings you to #mer ? | 09:07 |
dreamer_ | I just want to know something about jolla | 09:08 |
Stskeeps | sure :) if you want to discuss jolla, #jollamobile also exists, but if you have any questions on Mer feel free to ask at any time | 09:09 |
iekku | dreamer_, there's #jollamobile for general jolla discussion | 09:09 |
dreamer_ | thanks | 09:10 |
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vi_ | hello. | 10:07 |
vi_ | How supported is the N950? | 10:07 |
timoph | nemo works pretty well on it | 10:08 |
timoph | although iirc there's currently some issues with cellular | 10:08 |
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timoph | so no phone calls atm if that's still the case | 10:10 |
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timoph | morjens jukkaeklund | 10:14 |
jukkaeklund | moro | 10:14 |
Jope | moi :-) | 10:14 |
lbt | o/ jukkaeklund | 10:14 |
jukkaeklund | hi | 10:15 |
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iekku | \o | 10:17 |
jukkaeklund | getting more volunteers due to that Jolla thing are you? | 10:18 |
iekku | yes :) | 10:18 |
jukkaeklund | good | 10:19 |
timoph | no one has still volunteered to fix my bugs so I need some more more effort from the jolla thing :p | 10:20 |
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jukkaeklund | :) | 10:20 |
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alterego | Hey jukkaeklund have a nice festival? | 10:27 |
jukkaeklund | had, thanks! now flu.. | 10:29 |
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alterego | Heh, oh dear :) | 10:33 |
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timoph | hmmh. obs doesn't like me today | 10:42 |
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timoph | getting timeout errors | 10:42 |
iekku | my head is timed out | 10:45 |
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timoph | sigh | 10:49 |
timoph | and then osc puked a backtrace while doing a co | 10:50 |
* timoph is not amused | 10:50 | |
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kyyberi | :) take it easy | 10:52 |
X-Fade | timoph: cobs? | 10:54 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: how's release going? | 10:59 |
timoph | X-Fade: yeah | 10:59 |
X-Fade | timoph: Hmm I can't see anything weird going on at the servers. | 10:59 |
lbt | Stskeeps: making email | 11:00 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:00 |
lbt | about to prod cobs | 11:00 |
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lbt | chatting to john about ruote | 11:00 |
timoph | X-Fade: could be that the company network is just crapping out on me | 11:00 |
timoph | they're doing some infra maintenance atm | 11:00 |
phaeron | lbt: this'll come in through *:next, right ? | 11:00 |
X-Fade | timoph: Ok, can be that then. | 11:01 |
lbt | phaeron: yes | 11:01 |
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phaeron | lbt: great thanks | 11:02 |
timoph | alhtough the obs connection has been doing that to me every now and then always | 11:02 |
timoph | now it's just exceptionally hard to make a co | 11:03 |
X-Fade | timoph: I see you checking out.. | 11:09 |
timoph | :) | 11:09 |
X-Fade | A lot of stuff you have there ;) | 11:09 |
timoph | yep :) | 11:09 |
timoph | I actually removed some stuff recently | 11:10 |
X-Fade | But all requests seem to be ok, no errors in the logs. | 11:10 |
timoph | and again... 110 connection timed out :/ | 11:10 |
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Stskeeps | hello molczak | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | longer nickname this time around? :) | 11:17 |
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molczak | Stskeeps: hehe. that's the correct one (registered). seems i got previous one from this machine username ;) | 11:18 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 11:18 |
molczak | Stskeeps: any reference hw i could use (N900 maybe ;) ? | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | n900 is a good piece :) | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | nemo has hw adaptation for it | 11:22 |
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molczak | that might just give it another life :) | 11:33 |
Stskeeps | get a nice 4gb class 4 or above microsd | 11:34 |
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Jope | is class4 enough? | 11:37 |
Jope | or will I get annoyed :-) | 11:38 |
dm8tbr | ideally you want a card that performs well on random IO, but that is not something advertised | 11:38 |
iekku | ooh, nice to see you Jope | 11:38 |
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kimju | Jope, I'd suggest something faster. or at least a decent brand of a card (sandisk is my favourite but ymmv) | 11:39 |
lbt | updatestorm starting on cobs btw | 11:39 |
Jope | iekku, I've been quiet here for a long time :-) | 11:39 |
Jope | dm8tbr, that's what I sort of gathered based on previous Meego CE attempts in my n900 | 11:39 |
Jope | it was excruciatingly slow with the card I had :-) | 11:40 |
iekku | Jope, sorry. nice to see you talking in here | 11:40 |
Jope | iekku :-) | 11:40 |
iekku | Jope, reminds me about the time i was born | 11:40 |
qpx | any experience which sd cards perform better than other? | 11:40 |
jukkaeklund | Ive liked class 6 Sandisk I recall | 11:41 |
dm8tbr | Jope: transcend seems to be OK. | 11:41 |
Jope | cheers.. | 11:41 |
Jope | payday on friday so I'm able to afford some goodies again. ;-) | 11:41 |
dm8tbr | Jope: also note that some class 10 cards have a timing problem with the default kernel and OMAP3 | 11:41 |
Jope | ok, that still exists.. I remember reading about it | 11:41 |
dm8tbr | I don't know if the nemo hw adaptation got patched | 11:42 |
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kimju | I have a 8GB transcend class 6, that works fine. and a sandisk class 4 that is even faster. everything else just sucks. | 11:45 |
Jope | I think I have a spare sandisk class 4 at home.. I'll give it a go | 11:46 |
jukkaeklund | I recall class 10 bug had fix but was N900 kernel patched ever? | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | no, it's on my list though | 11:49 |
kimju | jukkaeklund, at least I didn't do it, as the first patch was said to be "wrong" by the mmc maintainers. later there has been a better patch, but I'm not sure if that has been applied. | 11:49 |
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jukkaeklund | and anyway good class 4 or 6 is fine | 11:50 |
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kimju | hmm, does osc work within a virtual machine? it seems to wreak havoc if I have virtualbox running on the host along it, so I can't use it right now. but I could install another vm with linux and run osc there.. | 11:57 |
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Stskeeps | kimju: should work fine | 12:01 |
Stskeeps | hello Dynamit_N900 | 12:01 |
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Dynamit_N900 | hello Nemo is nice but to un-stable to use as primary OS | 12:06 |
Stskeeps | sure, it's not end user ready | 12:07 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: lies! it's a completed product | 12:08 |
jukkaeklund | :) | 12:09 |
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w00t | jukkaeklund: o/ | 12:10 |
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iekku | w00t, :D | 12:14 |
w00t | iekku: :) | 12:15 |
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jukkaeklund | w00t hi | 12:27 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: email? | 13:08 |
lbt | waiting for updatestorm to complete | 13:08 |
Stskeeps | ok | 13:08 |
lbt | ... like it has in the last few mins | 13:08 |
lbt | hmm | 13:12 |
lbt | not looking good | 13:12 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 13:13 |
Stskeeps | ? | 13:13 |
lbt | could just be slow | 13:13 |
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Stskeeps | E-P: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00468.html | 13:14 |
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lbt | getting missing logs via the webui | 13:14 |
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Stskeeps | hmm? | 13:16 |
lbt | and now they're there | 13:16 |
lbt | it feels like it was all blocked for a bit | 13:17 |
lbt | maybe just looking at it too soon after updates | 13:17 |
lbt | nm ... will check back later | 13:17 |
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alterego | Might have to start using screen split window | 13:30 |
alterego | With the amount of IRC clients and terminals I've got to monitor. | 13:30 |
alterego | Or I should setup my .screenrc to properly monitor channels. | 13:31 |
alterego | s/channels/windows/ | 13:31 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: when do we plan to release? | 13:41 |
Stskeeps | lbt: 2 days QA needed at least | 13:42 |
phaeron | lbt: give the vendors time to feedback ! :) | 13:42 |
lbt | this is why I'm asking | 13:42 |
lbt | saturday? | 13:42 |
lbt | gives to close of friday for feedback | 13:43 |
phaeron | and based on feedback we can push it a little, and maybe have another prerelease ? | 13:43 |
lbt | "Of particular note: systemd, connman, ofono and openssl have been updated. Systemd and udev were merged upstream so the udev source package has been removed. openssl has been brought up to date and an issue affecting SDK upgrades has been resolved (expect a new SDK soon-ish). Booting some test images is advised." | 13:43 |
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lbt | plus it's my wedding anniversary on fri so I won't be around much.... :) | 13:45 |
Stskeeps | :nod | 13:45 |
phaeron | lbt: happy anniversary :) | 13:45 |
lbt | ty | 13:45 |
lbt | apparently we're getting kittens.... | 13:45 |
phaeron | lbt: lolcats | 13:50 |
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sledges | hello everybuddy | 13:57 |
Stskeeps | hewwo sledges | 13:57 |
lbt | [ANNOUNCE] Mer PRE-RELEASE 0.20120719.0.1 is done - c.obs is rebuilding at the moment. see http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/ for announce email ... f5 is your friend | 13:57 |
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phaeron | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5231 | 14:09 |
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phaeron | lbt: 0719 is tomorrow , right ? | 14:21 |
lbt | yes | 14:21 |
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FireFly | "Mer supports the Intel x86 and ARM architecture and there is work in progress in getting it work on MIPS architecture as well." <- what is the reason for targetting MIPS? Is there any particular MIPS device that you'd want to get Mer running on? | 14:30 |
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Stskeeps | FireFly: not work in progress, it's just there | 14:30 |
lbt | FireFly: STBs often use MIPS | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | FireFly: well, there seems to be a major gap in proper distros for MIPS support | 14:30 |
FireFly | Fair enough | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | and we have modern gcc 4.6.2, glibc, etc, for it | 14:31 |
lbt | FireFly: where did you get the quote? | 14:31 |
FireFly | the wikipedia article on Mer | 14:31 |
lbt | will edit | 14:31 |
FireFly | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mer_(Operating_System)#Supported_hardware more precisely | 14:31 |
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Paimen | grah, what a day | 16:45 |
alterego | dinner time | 16:47 |
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CosmoHill | Stskeeps: can I pm you a question? | 17:16 |
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Stskeeps | CosmoHill: ok | 17:27 |
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* Stskeeps stretches | 18:11 | |
* CosmoHill has fixed two (CLFS) tickets so far :) | 18:12 | |
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Stskeeps | evening Alison_Chaiken :) | 18:24 |
Alison_Chaiken | Evening Stskeeps! | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | how are you doing? | 18:25 |
Alison_Chaiken | Busy as always. Haven't been able to get back to PlasmaActive tablet, alas. | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | same here | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | new job, etc | 18:25 |
Alison_Chaiken | Will be in U.K. for Automotive Linux Summit, and would like to get together will local folks then. | 18:26 |
phaeron | lbt: I think there are some stale jobs in obs that need cleaning | 18:26 |
Stskeeps | hmm, i would almost expect vgrade would go? | 18:26 |
Alison_Chaiken | Still Novomok, Stskeeps, or are you Jolla? | 18:26 |
vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, Heritage Centre? | 18:26 |
Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: Jolla, i was never a nomovok employee, just a subcontractor/resource hiring | 18:26 |
Alison_Chaiken | lbt, vgrade, I forget where you are? | 18:26 |
phaeron | lbt: I'll try to clean them soon | 18:26 |
Alison_Chaiken | Yep, vgrade, in Gaydon, which is near Coventry I gather. | 18:26 |
vgrade | I work less than a mile away from there at JLR | 18:27 |
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Alison_Chaiken | Cool! vgrade, I will buy you dinner, I totally owe you. | 18:27 |
vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, what date is it? | 18:27 |
CosmoHill | hey Alison_Chaiken | 18:28 |
Alison_Chaiken | I will be staying at the Hilton Warwick. Dates are not totally clear, but meeting is September 19-20. | 18:29 |
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Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: many good things coming with jolla.. hopefully we can do a good job :) | 18:31 |
Alison_Chaiken | I sure hope so, Stskeeps. There is interest out there if a decent product can be delivered, that's for sure. | 18:31 |
Alison_Chaiken | If, if,if! | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | yep | 18:31 |
Jope | :-D | 18:31 |
Alison_Chaiken | As someone who is struggling with bitbake today, I appreciate the difficulty. | 18:32 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. embedded linux is really much harder than it could be :P | 18:33 |
vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, date in diary | 18:34 |
Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, someone said to me recently, "The software is free for download . . . what's the big deal?" | 18:35 |
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alterego | Heu Alison_Chaiken :) | 18:35 |
Alison_Chaiken | So your job is easy: just deal with it! | 18:35 |
Alison_Chaiken | Off to figure out what's wrong with module_init_tools package. | 18:36 |
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Stskeeps | replaced with kmod in future iterations, perhaps | 18:36 |
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Stskeeps | hello rakl :) | 18:39 |
rakl | hi, i was trying to compile my moslo. It gave error stating "ERROR: file /bin/text2screen is missing! " so i tried to install fb_text2screen even there i get a error "omapfb.h not found". how to fix it ? thanks | 18:40 |
Stskeeps | rakl: how are you trying to compile it? | 18:41 |
rakl | using make utility. | 18:41 |
Stskeeps | okay, probably not going to work | 18:41 |
Stskeeps | you need to build the rpm package | 18:41 |
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rakl | Stskeeps: i got source code from rpm package only. Do i need to build a rpm package again? | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | rakl: yes, rpmbuild | 18:45 |
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shrikrishna | rakl: are you building it using emulator or on an x86 machine? | 18:48 |
rakl | shrikrishna: x86 machine. | 18:49 |
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rakl | Stskeeps: i used -bp option with rpmbuild, it listed many dependencies along with text2screen .so again i am stuck in the same problem installing text2screen | 19:04 |
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ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: sup | 19:36 |
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ZogG_laptop | in order to boot mer on n950 i need just to flash img right? the question is if i make my own img with gentoo arm with using harmattan kernel (for drivers) just by installing it in scratchbox with chroot and dd it's root to img would i be able to flash with it. (sorry i'm noob at this) | 20:03 |
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lbt | ZogG_laptop: that sounds overly complex | 20:10 |
Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: just make own image and dd it | 20:10 |
lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950 | 20:11 |
ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: the question is how i make img, is it just rootfs of gentoo for arm with dd? and if not in scratchbox, how do i do the img for arm on x86_64 system =) | 20:12 |
chouchoune | does nemo install and run well on ExoPC ? | 20:12 |
Stskeeps | chouchoune: yes | 20:12 |
chouchoune | trying to figure out which would be the best device to test Mer stuff | 20:12 |
Stskeeps | exopc's quite nice | 20:12 |
chouchoune | I have ExoPC, N900, Raspberry pi ... | 20:12 |
chouchoune | ok, thats quite good as it's bigger than n900 and has touch | 20:13 |
Stskeeps | quite a good mix | 20:13 |
Stskeeps | you'll be able to run our wayland stack in future ;) | 20:13 |
chouchoune | yep | 20:13 |
chouchoune | trying to package wayland 0.85 right now | 20:14 |
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lbt | ZogG_laptop: do you want to simply build a minimal Mer image for the N950? | 20:19 |
lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Getting_Started <- for chouchoune and ZogG_laptop | 20:20 |
ZogG_laptop | lbt: nope, i actually want to build gentoo/funtoo img | 20:20 |
Stskeeps | ah, we're not much use then :P | 20:20 |
lbt | ZogG_laptop: OK ... can't really help with that then | 20:20 |
chouchoune | lbt: I know how to install, just asking if it runs without to much issues ;) | 20:21 |
chouchoune | last time I tried on ExoPC, it went black after a few seconds ;) | 20:22 |
lbt | chouchoune: yep - that page gets you networking and a nice Qt/QML demo | 20:22 |
chouchoune | (I didn't use the ExoPC for a long time ;)) | 20:22 |
lbt | it also gets you the right structure to start your own UZ | 20:22 |
lbt | UX | 20:22 |
Stskeeps | chouchoune: back then there was a bug that it crashed when using multitouch | 20:22 |
Stskeeps | :P | 20:22 |
chouchoune | lbt: oh, that's interesting | 20:23 |
chouchoune | that's in my plans to make a "custom" UX | 20:24 |
lbt | chouchoune: I hope so ... it's still slightly WIP ... but it's getting there | 20:24 |
chouchoune | actually, that's under "design" | 20:24 |
lbt | yeah - as it stands it makes you a minimal Mer with my 50 line QML demo | 20:24 |
lbt | with wifi | 20:25 |
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* lbt runs the n950 one up... | 20:29 | |
chouchoune | would raspberry pi or tegra2 hardware run wayland ? | 20:31 |
Stskeeps | r-pi | 20:31 |
chouchoune | ok, nice | 20:32 |
chouchoune | lbt: the wallpaper of mer-not-a-ux goes to my laptop's wallpaper ;) | 20:41 |
lbt | :) | 20:44 |
lbt | there's a big version floating around somewhere | 20:44 |
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ZogG_laptop | lbt: moslo is needed only for mer and meego os right? | 20:48 |
lbt | no | 20:48 |
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lbt | moslo is needed to get kernel and rootfs running | 20:49 |
lbt | you need to make a rootfs and copy it to the device as per that N950 page I linked | 20:49 |
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lbt | doing that is tremendously hard | 20:49 |
lbt | (making the rootfs from scratch with no cross-compile tools etc) | 20:50 |
Stskeeps | night! | 20:52 |
lbt | o/ | 20:52 |
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ZogG_laptop | lbt: i found ready to use rootfs for armv7a of what i need, all i want now to replace kernel there. i just still don't get how boot works. and i need moslo, what i need to modify in it in order to boot my rootfs as it may be different from meegos one | 20:53 |
ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: night | 20:53 |
lbt | you can't easily change the kernel | 20:54 |
ZogG_laptop | i want to use harmattan's kernel | 20:54 |
ZogG_laptop | don't want to change it | 20:54 |
lbt | have you read that page? | 20:55 |
ZogG_laptop | partly, as i still didnt understand few things there | 20:55 |
ZogG_laptop | amd it's mostly for mer/meego | 20:56 |
ZogG_laptop | i need for something else, i just ask more general question and not mer specific | 20:56 |
lbt | it's generic until the bit where you 'dd' it | 20:56 |
lbt | even this is generic https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950_.26_Nokia_N9_Rootfs_Installation | 20:57 |
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ZogG_laptop | lbt: ok let's assume i have rootfs build for arm with harmattan's kernel. i dd it to img. the question is if i just flash the img would it work or i need to flash modified moslo and if i need modified moslo would i need too modify it more for my specific OS or not. | 20:59 |
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lbt | OK - so you don't flash a rootfs on the N950 | 21:00 |
lbt | you mount a partition and copy files into the rootfs | 21:01 |
ZogG_laptop | lbt: is it for dual boot? and for only my system boot? | 21:02 |
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lbt | ZogG_laptop: follow the prep instructions and then follow the rootfs install instructions. Your rootfs will boot instead of Mer/Nemo. Your kernel will not be used. | 21:08 |
lbt | sorry, I don't have any free bandwidth at the moment to spend more time on it :) | 21:08 |
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ZogG_laptop | ok | 21:08 |
ZogG_laptop | thanks | 21:08 |
lbt | np ... hth | 21:08 |
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chouchoune | good night, going to sleep | 21:18 |
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