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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:55 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: the weird '<link project="Core:mipsel">' showed up again | 05:39 |
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| Stskeeps | morn shrikrishna | 05:47 |
| shrikrishna | morn Stskeeps :) | 05:47 |
| shrikrishna | going through yesterday's logs | 05:48 |
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| * Stskeeps is just waking up and is impressed to see sunshine on his birthday | 05:53 | |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: your birthday today? happy birthday | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: thank you :) | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, turning 28 | 05:56 |
| timoph | oh | 05:57 |
| timoph | happy birthday Stskeeps | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | thanks timoph | 05:57 |
| shrikrishna | many many happy returns of the day Stskeeps :) have a bash!! =) | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 05:59 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: any plan for birthday? maybe have some friends to celebrate? | 06:00 |
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| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: going with my wife for a jazz concert and a good dinner - just happy to have a weekend day where there's no launches of new companies :) | 06:01 |
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| * lpotter-home launches a new company | 06:02 | |
| kyyberi | morn | 06:03 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah, jazz concert and dinner, cool. Have a good time and have a good rest | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | lpotter-home: congratulations :) in what business? | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: last week we launched a smartphone company that uses Mer, so it was very hectic week :) | 06:06 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah, cool, I see the news about Jolla Mobile, you are in the same company? | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: yes, i'm associated with it | 06:09 |
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| Stskeeps | morning shanxS | 06:12 |
| shanxS | hey Stskeeps ! | 06:13 |
| shanxS | yesterday I was able to setup a prj on OBS | 06:13 |
| shanxS | phaeron, helped me with that | 06:13 |
| shanxS | phaeron, hi | 06:13 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I'm very glad to hear this news especially after I heard the qt team was disbanded by Nokia. Any plan for a new production? | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: well, qt team isn't gone yet and qt-project continues | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | it'll be interesting to see how development will continue on it | 06:14 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: hmm, but I see the news | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | yeah - there's a lot of different news, and a lot of bad ones from nokia, but qt itself is a open project like mer | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | and contributions continue just fine | 06:15 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ah, yes. and the qt community | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | and so far people from nokia are still contributing | 06:15 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok. qt5 is stable already or not? | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | it's quite good already but they should get beta and final release out | 06:18 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok. the smartphone of your company will use Mer, and qt5 will be used? | 06:19 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I mean for graphic framework | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: i can only tell you that we'll use mer and qt, not specific versions | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | it should be interesting nevertheless | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | shanxS: he's probably sleeping :) | 06:21 |
| lpotter-home | Nokia still employs Nokia devs in Brisbane, Oslo and Berlin to get the Qt 5 release out | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | lpotter-home: good | 06:21 |
| shanxS | Stskeeps, yeah.. :) | 06:21 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok. what about the apps for your smartphones? | 06:22 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: html5 apps and qml apps? | 06:22 |
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| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: that i can't talk about either, but qt/qml is a obvious choice, perhaps html5 too | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | it should be interesting and in time we'll be able to talk more :) | 06:23 |
| Khaled_ | Does anyone know about vala? | 06:23 |
| Khaled_ | its basically c# on linux without a vm and elementary os uses it | 06:23 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok. anyway it's a good news for me that you can do a new smartphone which use Mer | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | Khaled_: yeah, i've encountered vala in the past | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | it's basically syntactic sugar on top of glib and c | 06:24 |
| Khaled_ | I think its the sweet spot between web and c++ | 06:25 |
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| Khaled_ | its super fast and easy to use | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | vala has it's good moments and it's bad moments | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | i'm personally more of a qml/javascript fan, people can re-use knowledge | 06:25 |
| Khaled_ | and the only I love about meego was how it was fully native linux | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | but that's just me | 06:25 |
| Khaled_ | congrats on jolla btw | 06:25 |
| Khaled_ | they'll use mer right? | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 06:26 |
| Khaled_ | why dont u just merge and close source the whole thing | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | because that's not a very viable strategy | 06:26 |
| Khaled_ | I think the apple model is the only one succesfull | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | we had this discussion :) | 06:26 |
| Khaled_ | well you're competing with apple and google | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | if we merge and close source the whole thing, the advantage of using open source disappears | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | simple as that, it comes down to $$$ | 06:27 |
| Khaled_ | and whats the advantage | 06:27 |
| Khaled_ | open source killed everything | 06:27 |
| Khaled_ | firefox and android | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | that you don't have to employ a boatload of talented linux core developers | 06:27 |
| Khaled_ | android is so fragmented and evs hate it | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | Khaled_: OK, this discussion is bordering to trolling so i have to ask you to take it outside | 06:28 |
| Khaled_ | but if u close source | 06:28 |
| Khaled_ | really | 06:28 |
| Khaled_ | wow | 06:28 |
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| * timoph hasn't seen many closed source advocators here before | 06:28 | |
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| * Stskeeps points to irc guidelines in topic | 06:29 | |
| Stskeeps | in practice it really does come down to the maintainability of your stack and the need for in-house developers | 06:30 |
| timoph | yep | 06:30 |
| timoph | but I guess those things are hard to see/understand if you're an end-user or app dev | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | in practice you shouldn't have to care about it, yes | 06:33 |
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| timoph | true | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | those of us who has actually worked with open source based products know how painful it can be to having to maintain things yourself | 06:34 |
| timoph | especially if you're maintaining your own fork and watching from the sidelines how the original project moves onward | 06:35 |
| timoph | lots of unneeded work | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:36 |
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| Paimen | Happy Birthday Stskeeps | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | Paimen: thank you | 06:43 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: Extra good morning ... Happy Birthday | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | thanks lbt | 07:09 |
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| * lbt looks at the calendar and DNS | 07:16 | |
| Stskeeps | calendar? | 07:16 |
| lbt | need to move away from 1&1 | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 07:17 |
| lbt | still gives me nightmares | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | not a terribly good time right now to do so though, if we risk site downtime | 07:17 |
| lbt | yep - just keeping an eye on it | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | so what are you planning for today? | 07:19 |
| lbt | finish OBS work - I've polished phaeron's patch a little and commented it | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:20 |
| lbt | I'm making it distinct from upstream copy ... calling it copybinary | 07:20 |
| lbt | that way we have an easier patch to maintain | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | mmmkay | 07:20 |
| lbt | we chatted and he's happy that's sane | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | seems like the jazz concert i was going to was actually a workshop for young musicians, so i'll be going to railway museum \o/ | 07:21 |
| lbt | they're currently working in copybuild() function | 07:21 |
| lbt | trains :) | 07:21 |
| iekku | morning | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | morn iekku | 07:22 |
| lbt | hi iekku | 07:24 |
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| iekku | i could easily sleep hour or 10 more | 07:38 |
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| Paimen | well I was up 5:30 after about 6 hrs of sleep | 07:57 |
| iekku | :) | 07:58 |
| phaeron | morning | 07:59 |
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| iekku | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, it's starting to rain soon and i need to cut bushes from our yard | 07:59 |
| iekku | didn't have time to do it during the week | 08:00 |
| iekku | and we have collecting only during this weekend | 08:00 |
| iekku | :( | 08:00 |
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| CosmoHill | woof | 08:01 |
| iekku | morning CosmoHill | 08:04 |
| iekku | and it started to rain :/ | 08:05 |
| CosmoHill | just stopped here | 08:05 |
| CosmoHill | no wait, still going i think | 08:06 |
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| iekku | CosmoHill, it's heavy rain in here, said before you joined that i need to go out and cut our yars bushes, we have collecting only this weekend.. | 08:07 |
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| CosmoHill | our collections move to friday, was two months before I noticed that | 08:08 |
| lbt | iekku: think of it this way ... your skin is waterproof - wear a T-shirt and it's kinda fun working in the rain. Just laugh at the clouds :) | 08:09 |
| iekku | i had planned to cut those during week.. but didn't have time | 08:09 |
| iekku | lbt, :D | 08:09 |
| iekku | electric cutter and me isn't good combination anyway, so.. | 08:10 |
| lbt | live dangerously ... (and wear rubber boots) | 08:10 |
| iekku | don't have any... | 08:10 |
| CosmoHill | stand on a plastic box | 08:11 |
| lbt | use a steak knife! | 08:11 |
| iekku | good ideas, i have to admit :D | 08:11 |
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| CosmoHill | can't you use manual cutters and a hat? | 08:15 |
| CosmoHill | I've been reading You Damn Kid and it's oct 2005 before they start colour comics | 08:16 |
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| phaeron | timoph: ping | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | timoph, also check meego.com qa tools pages | 09:44 |
| phaeron | I was looking there | 09:45 |
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| phaeron | lbt: is cobs ill ? | 10:15 |
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| lbt | phaeron: not sure... | 10:17 |
| RaYmAn | 2/w 24 | 10:17 |
| phaeron | RaYmAn: ? | 10:18 |
| RaYmAn | -2 | 10:18 |
| RaYmAn | :P | 10:18 |
| RaYmAn | was kind of supposed to be an irssi command :/ | 10:18 |
| lbt | mmmm | 10:20 |
| Lava_Croft | to go to window number 24 :) | 10:21 |
| lbt | phaeron: yeah .. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck | 10:22 |
| lbt | hmm | 10:22 |
| lbt | *g* I like screen | 10:23 |
| lbt | tell it to go to window 1.... network lag, tell it again ... it says "This *IS* window 1" and you can hear it mumble "you idiot" | 10:24 |
| * phaeron backs away slowly | 10:24 | |
| lbt | possible ddos? | 10:25 |
| lbt | very high latency on ssh connection | 10:26 |
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| ericc | what happen | 10:33 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: ping - do you know the osuosl bandwidth monitor for cobs? | 10:40 |
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| * Stskeeps liked the railway museum | 11:42 | |
| phaeron | choo choo | 11:52 |
| CosmoHill | what kinda trys? | 11:54 |
| CosmoHill | trains* | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | old polish | 11:55 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 11:55 |
| CosmoHill | I like British diesels from the 1960s to 1990s | 11:55 |
| * CosmoHill waves goodbye to his remaining chances of getting a girlfriend | 11:56 | |
| Stskeeps | uhhuh | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | get married before letting all the crazy out | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:56 |
| CosmoHill | my mate got me into trains, he's more into them they I am | 11:56 |
| CosmoHill | got a gf and now she's kinda into them too | 11:56 |
| CosmoHill | or at least issue supisious of him when he goes out for hours and has a return train ticket to somewhere | 11:57 |
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| rcg | alright, the time in .za was over much too fast | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | welcome back? :) | 12:15 |
| rcg | Stskeeps: not yet ;) | 12:15 |
| rcg | just sitting at port elizabeth airport at the gate | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:16 |
| rcg | i was a little bit concerned that the time to get my flight to frankfurt in johanesburg was quite short and i didn't even got the boarding pass yet | 12:17 |
| rcg | however, the gui at the checkin printed that thing for me and also assured me that my luggage will be forwarded automatically | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:17 |
| rcg | so even if the luggage will not be on board it is now their problem to transport it to frankfurt :) | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | so luggage will disappear out the back of the plane over the mediterranian? ;) | 12:18 |
| alterego | Heh | 12:18 |
| rcg | something like that :) | 12:18 |
| alterego | Just built new compooter :) | 12:18 |
| alterego | Now need to install ubuntu on iy | 12:18 |
| rcg | well, when i arrived here i had to get the luggage myself and re-check it in for the national fligh from johanesburg to p.e. | 12:19 |
| rcg | that was acutally my concern that it would be like that this time too ;) | 12:19 |
| * lbt hates ssl | 12:20 | |
| lbt | just sayin' | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: mm? | 12:21 |
| alterego | lbt: https? | 12:21 |
| lbt | making crt and csr stuff ... send it to be signed... | 12:22 |
| alterego | Programming using openssl is a pita, dunno what dribbling moron came up with the API for that :D | 12:22 |
| lbt | alterego: just admin side | 12:22 |
| lbt | and the response: An error occured signing the certificate. Please check your all your data and try again. | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i wondered the exact same thing | 12:22 |
| alterego | heh | 12:23 |
| lbt | ssl is designed so the NSA can slip in backdoors without anyone noticing | 12:23 |
| alterego | Also, don't expect me to do any work today, I'm pretty hungover. | 12:23 |
| alterego | I was DJing last night, and the bar charges the same for a double vodka as it does for a single .. | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: here, have a non-deterministic finite automaton to convert into a deterministic one | 12:24 |
| chouchoune | good bar | 12:24 |
| lbt | *g* I was DJing too | 12:24 |
| chouchoune | hi everybody | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | lo chouchoune | 12:24 |
| lbt | hey chouchoune | 12:24 |
| alterego | I think I'm still a bit drunk. | 12:25 |
| alterego | I'm on my second pint of coffee, this should sort me out. | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron/lbt: any more thoughts on the package disabling thing? (i haven't expected any work to be done, just if you have any new thoughts) | 12:26 |
| lbt | spec? | 12:26 |
| lbt | even a pastie of irc notes into a bug :) | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: as you know, mer cross builds are done with a project with two schedulers in it, one i586, one target (arm, mips).. all i586 builds are disabled except for a few, and all target builds are enabled | 12:27 |
| chouchoune | alterego: you should drink one beer (not more) : it helps sort things out | 12:28 |
| chouchoune | it gives what your body lacks at the moment ;) | 12:28 |
| lbt | so a package cross-build 'mask' | 12:28 |
| lbt | as in bitmask mask | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: when you do a <link project> it does not respect 1) what _meta the package it links to has, and 2) it doesn't allow you to individually enable <link>'ed packages for build | 12:28 |
| alterego | chouchoune: not if I'm still drunk, it'll just make me go out and get hammered again :P | 12:28 |
| chouchoune | haha | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so i wouldn't mind <build><enable arch="i586" package="cross-arm-gcc" /></build> in prj meta | 12:29 |
| chouchoune | alterego: it works if you have a headake at least | 12:29 |
| chouchoune | headache | 12:29 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: prj meta ? | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:29 |
| alterego | Heh, neah, I don't have a headache, I'm not sure I have a head at the moment. | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | we can't edit <link> package's meta | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | so it has to be higher up | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, you see the challenge i have? :P | 12:31 |
| lbt | I'm wondering if a link'ed project should have packages to provide this override | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | like <link project="" > <options> </link> ? | 12:34 |
| lbt | a link project is a real project with an attribute of link | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:35 |
| lbt | being real it can have real packages | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | so why can't i individually enable/disable some packages? :P | 12:36 |
| lbt | where a package is a small snippet of xml | 12:36 |
| phaeron | because unless you create said packages they are a "shadow" | 12:36 |
| lbt | that snippet of xml has some schema elements that are only relevant when found in a project that is a link | 12:37 |
| lbt | so yes, those snippets will overlay the link target values | 12:37 |
| lbt | conceptually similar but we use pacakge xml, not prj | 12:38 |
| lbt | you could make new ones and delete packages too | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | right, i know all this, but it doesnt solve my problem :P | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | so just trying to figure out how we could fix it so we can actually do new-type releases of cross compiled core | 12:46 |
| rcg | right, seems like boarding is about to start | 12:49 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 12:49 |
| rcg | Stskeeps: i wish you success for coming up with a nice solution :) | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: untrusted still? | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, that might be my fault though | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm on ancient ubuntu box right now | 12:50 |
| lbt | it should be OK - it's verified by StartCom (startssl) | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 12:50 |
| lbt | try https://www.startssl.com/ | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | wonder why my n9 doesn't like it either | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: my n9 likes https://www.startssl.com fine | 12:51 |
| lbt | cache? | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | so does my firefox | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | i dunno | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 12:52 |
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| Stskeeps | how about the rest of you - does https://wiki.merproject.org show up as trusted cert? | 12:52 |
| rettichschnidi | Stskeeps: yep | 12:56 |
| lbt | http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=wiki.merproject.org | 12:57 |
| rettichschnidi | maybe the intermediate cert is not installed correctly? | 12:59 |
| rettichschnidi | http://www.startssl.com/?app=21 | 12:59 |
| kyyberi | Stskeeps: does not complain | 13:05 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: try now | 13:06 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: works on my N9 now - I checked rettichschnidi's comment and added the chain pem to the server (thanks rettichschnidi) | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: much better | 13:08 |
| lbt | Some silly hurdles - I was using NA as the country code (since we don't specially have one) | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | this was free cert? | 13:09 |
| lbt | yes | 13:09 |
| lbt | no longer signed by "Department of making things happen" though :) | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:10 |
| lbt | will do bugs next | 13:10 |
| lbt | also documented in internal wiki | 13:11 |
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| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org done too | 13:24 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: thanks | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | hello membersonlyguy | 13:29 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: was there a bug for that? | 13:33 |
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| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414 | 13:34 |
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| Stskeeps | hi qpx :) | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: good work, thank you | 13:44 |
| ericc | bug? | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | ericc: we track issues in mer project with bugs, yes | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | by the thought that it's better to know about a bug than not | 13:46 |
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| ericc | bug | 13:49 |
| ericc | -------chinese? | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | ericc: a bug is an error in a program, or unexpected behaviour | 13:50 |
| rettichschnidi | lbt: i'm using startssl as well and got the exactly same issue like a year ago :) | 13:50 |
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| Stskeeps | rettichschnidi: thanks for the help :) | 13:51 |
| lbt | ... the problem was I didn't click "finish" ... expecting the page to vanish; instead it gave you the install instructions :/ | 13:51 |
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| qpx | hi Stskeeps :p | 13:52 |
| qpx | happy birthday ^^ | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | qpx: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | and thank you | 13:52 |
| qpx | i'm thinking about installing nemo on my n900 :> | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | sure :) #nemomobile is useful in that area too. if you have any questions on Mer, feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute, else feel free to hang out :) | 13:54 |
| qpx | and just keeping an eye on #mer ~ future looks promising :) | 13:54 |
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| ericc | happy birthday ^^ | 13:58 |
| ericc | today？ | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | ericc: yes, thank you | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | qpx: alright :) | 13:58 |
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| ericc | make a wish lol | 14:13 |
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| alterego | new co | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: but old keyboard? | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:20 |
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| alterego | new computer doesn't even power on to post no video out, ffs, probably broken mobo :( | 14:20 |
| alterego | neah, on n9 right now :/ | 14:21 |
| alterego | I was really looking forward to playing with it this w\e :( | 14:21 |
| * alterego goes for shower | 14:22 | |
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| alterego | grrr | 14:32 |
| * Stskeeps offers alterego punching bag | 14:32 | |
| alterego | lol | 14:33 |
| alterego | debating going in to town to get a cheap mobo | 14:33 |
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| alterego | Yeah, think I will get a cheepo mother board to test components. I at least need to know if it is the mobo to get RMA | 14:57 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: just reading that jolla thread, I was thinking about the idea that guy had about changing window decoration for app depending on resource usage. | 15:11 |
| alterego | Though this is a bit lame for normal users, maybe it would be good in developer mode? | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | probably, but window decoration is evil | 15:12 |
| alterego | Much better the developers of the app have clear indication of bad resource usage than the users :) | 15:12 |
| alterego | Well, it's at the compositor level ;) | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | and composition should rarely be done ;) | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | direct rendering whenever posisble | 15:13 |
| alterego | We certainly should think about making the development process more friendly. | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | oh yes | 15:15 |
| alterego | Maybe have a qt components mod that modifies the status bar a bit to show how the app is running whilst you're using it. | 15:15 |
| alterego | Can also detect when app is minimized and have an overlay come up with resource usage whilst it's in background. | 15:15 |
| alterego | Right, I'm going to nip to the shop and buy cheapo mobo, bbiab | 15:16 |
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| alterego | So, I get to the shop, and they don't have any bloody intel based MBs ... | 16:48 |
| alterego | w.t.f. | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | wow :P | 16:49 |
| alterego | Not my day for computer geekery :/ | 16:50 |
| alterego | So I bought a DVI to VGA adapter and plugged my old workstation in to my two LG monitors and am currently installing Ubuntu on it. | 16:51 |
| alterego | And organised an RMA for the faulty mobo | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ping | 16:59 |
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| * Stskeeps stretches | 17:51 | |
| alterego | Cool, ubuntu has the qt sdk in the repo | 17:52 |
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| Stskeeps | alterego: so how's dialer working? | 18:42 |
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| shanxS | quick question: FAQ says Mer comprises of 302 packages <- https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/FAQ#What does Mer mean for MeeGo-community developers? | 18:50 |
| shanxS | link to those 302 packages looks broken <- http://merproject.org:2080/project/packages?project=Mer%3ATrunk%3ABase | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's broken | 18:50 |
| * Stskeeps didn't even know that was there | 18:50 | |
| Stskeeps | sec | 18:50 |
| shanxS | Stskeeps, where can I see list of pakages ? | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | give me a moment :) | 18:51 |
| shanxS | sorry.. sure :) | 18:51 |
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| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/ | 18:52 |
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| shanxS | alrighty.. thanks | 18:52 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: as of yesterday: ringtone notification working, audio routing for calls working, dialing out working, dialing in working, and answer/hangup working. | 19:24 |
| alterego | Need to do a proper UI implementation and slightly extend the UI<->manager bridge API to implement all functionality. | 19:24 |
| alterego | So pretty well :) | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 19:24 |
| alterego | Also need to implement libresource usage. | 19:24 |
| alterego | But I'm not going to work on it over this weekend, :) | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 19:25 |
| shanxS | which package is being discussed here ? | 19:28 |
| alterego | shanxS: new dialer I'm working on | 19:28 |
| * shanxS cant find any package by name of dialer | 19:28 | |
| shanxS | is it something out of Mer ? | 19:29 |
| alterego | Not published yet, only been working on it for 2 1/2 days last week ;) | 19:29 |
| alterego | It's for nemo | 19:29 |
| shanxS | ohh.. | 19:29 |
| alterego | Or anyone else that wants a qt-components/qml dialer, or a headless dialer. | 19:29 |
| shanxS | I am planning to work on <- https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363 | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | brave | 19:30 |
| shanxS | just made a branch of pulseaudio in my osc | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | did you see the patches? | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:30 |
| alterego | Yeah, very brave, good luck! :D | 19:30 |
| shanxS | be prepared to answer many stupid questions :P | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | shanxS: try a lower prio one? | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | at first | 19:30 |
| shanxS | sure.. can you please point out one ? | 19:30 |
| * alterego installs qt-sdk and mer-sdk | 19:32 | |
| alterego | Probably install scratch box. | 19:32 |
| shanxS | alterego, is that for me ? | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | shanxS: try https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254 as an example | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | just to start somewhere | 19:35 |
| shanxS | Stskeeps, cool.. thanks :) | 19:35 |
| * shanxS dives in... | 19:35 | |
| iekku | Stskeeps, couldn't stay away today? | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: been away most of day :P | 19:37 |
| alterego | lbt: wiki being slow again? | 19:38 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, that's good :) and now you can celebrate by being here | 19:38 |
| * alterego really hopes he gets a leap motion SDK .. | 19:39 | |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i've started build machinery, so that's maybe why | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | same phost | 19:39 |
| alterego | Ah, m'kay. | 19:39 |
| * alterego ponders setting up his own obs | 19:40 | |
| * Stskeeps tries to load an android lib on top of glibc for fun and profit | 19:42 | |
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| * alterego wonders if it's possible to use mer-sdk sb2 to compile for Harmattan and Fremantle | 19:46 | |
| Stskeeps | probably too modern kernel | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to use their toolchain | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | err | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | modern compiler | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | but otherwise, yess | 19:47 |
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| alterego | Not really that interested anyway :D | 19:51 |
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| alterego | I didn't realise we could use imager for mer. | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | imager? | 19:53 |
| alterego | Yeah, the online interface to mic | 19:53 |
| alterego | "meego image creation service" | 19:53 |
| alterego | Looks like you, vgrade and lbt use it :P | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | ah, yeah | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | IMG's a nice tool | 19:54 |
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| phaeron | speaking of which where did you file that enahncement request Stskeeps? | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alterego: always seemed to me as if even fremantle and harm are not playing nice with each other in one SD environment | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SB* | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: mint somewhere | 19:58 |
| * Stskeeps can't recall | 19:59 | |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430 ? | 20:10 |
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| shanxS | okay, so here I am. I have made a iproute package, got a clone form git, edited the spec file... what next ? | 20:39 |
| shanxS | should I build it as mentioned on contribution page.. or | 20:39 |
| shanxS | should I create a diff and upload on bugs page ?? | 20:40 |
| shanxS | btw, I am talking about this bug <- https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi | 20:41 |
| shanxS | *https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254 | 20:41 |
| shanxS | anybody in here .. ? | 20:43 |
| phaeron | shanxS: diff on bug is not useful | 20:44 |
| shanxS | phaeron, you always come to my rescue \o/ | 20:45 |
| shanxS | so what should I do ? | 20:45 |
| phaeron | shanxS: you need to continue with the contribution guide, make sure it builds, and then submit a merge request in mer gerrit | 20:45 |
| shanxS | alrighty.. I'll do that | 20:46 |
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| shanxS | something screwed up 'osc chroot' command.. | 21:17 |
| * shanxS is feeling sleepy | 21:17 | |
| shanxS | I'll deal with it once I catch some sleep... *yawns* | 21:17 |
| shanxS | thanks everyone for helping.. good night :) | 21:18 |
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| alterego | DocScrutinizer05: I've had them all working fine, even M4 .. | 22:01 |
| alterego | Borat | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ?? | 22:01 |
| alterego | Maemo SDKs in sbox | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, then I'm mistaken | 22:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | quite possible | 22:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I deduced from stories told by e.g. mohammadAG | 22:02 |
| alterego | He whines about everything ;) | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 22:03 |
| alterego | If it's not QML it's sbox :) | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually he didn't whine, but build fecked binaries for fremantle since he installed harmattan to same SB | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might be unrelated though | 22:04 |
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| alterego | I think what he may have done is install harmattan over another target. | 22:06 |
| alterego | sbox is delicate, that's for sure. | 22:06 |
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| * alterego ponders the benifits of building mer-sdk images. | 22:24 | |
| alterego | So, I can package my products specific stuff and make a completely self contained image for my developers. Coooool. | 22:25 |
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