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| Stskeeps | the additional packages, just in obs somewhere | 03:45 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: i'm not sure that's what i explicitly want - what i'd like is being able to copyprj a <link> project, and have parts of it not-building for x86 | 04:18 |
| Stskeeps | ideally on how _meta looks on <link> side | 04:18 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 04:20 |
| sonach | morning Stskeeps, you got up so early !! | 04:20 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yeah, wife usually gets up a little before me :P | 04:21 |
| Stskeeps | so i woke up at same time as her for once | 04:21 |
| sonach | hehe, good habit :) | 04:22 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: how's your development going? | 04:25 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: what aspect? | 04:25 |
| Stskeeps | now that's a true developer answer ;) just wondering if things are working OK or you have any problems with Mer and so on :) | 04:26 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it is in progress... if we have problems, we will throw it out at any time :P | 04:28 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, good :) | 04:29 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: did you by the way find out how to get chinese characters working OK? | 04:30 |
| Stskeeps | it was just a matter of fonts? | 04:30 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: AFAIK, it is just a matter of fonts. Maybe be Mer has done a lot on this but I don't know much about :P | 04:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 04:32 |
| Stskeeps | not as much as i want to - the hope is also to provide CJK input methods in upper UI layers eventually, through Maliit, for example | 04:33 |
| Stskeeps | .. which brings me to next question, how do people input chinese symbols with remote control for STB? | 04:34 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: there are two ways: (1) develop a software keyboard app; (2) improve the remote control which has a small screen on it and put chars on it, | 04:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i think i've actually seen the last solution when i was in hong kong | 04:35 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: what solution? | 04:36 |
| Stskeeps | the one with remote control with screen | 04:36 |
| Stskeeps | it was many years ago though :) | 04:36 |
| Stskeeps | if you ever have to do anything with input method, consider using https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page - i think it might work fine in STB setting too | 04:37 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, for TV/STB, the remote control is very important. I think the best solution is: it combines mouse, IR and screen. | 04:37 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, thank you for the link :) | 04:37 |
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| Stskeeps | for my own TV solution i've considered a solution where remote control is an actual tablet as well, but that's a more expensive solution :) | 04:39 |
| sonach | yes, that is two expensive... | 04:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: will have a rest since we are at noon :P talk to you later. | 04:39 |
| Stskeeps | seeyou | 04:39 |
| E-P | Morning | 04:40 |
| Stskeeps | good morning E-P | 04:40 |
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| * Stskeeps successfully makes a Core:0.20120719.0.0.2:i486 full release \o/ | 04:47 | |
| Paimen | morning | 04:47 |
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| Stskeeps | hello kyleven :) | 05:02 |
| kyleven | :) | 05:03 |
| Stskeeps | kyleven: welcome :] so what brings you here to #mer ? | 05:03 |
| kyleven | the mer-project website | 05:03 |
| Stskeeps | kyleven: sure :) if you have any questions about Mer, or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) else feel free to hang out | 05:04 |
| kyleven | just wanna see how the chanel is going | 05:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's a bit early at the moment | 05:05 |
| kyleven | yeah | 05:05 |
| _Razor_ | goood morning | 05:05 |
| kyleven | good afternoon... | 05:06 |
| Stskeeps | good morning to _Razor_ too :) | 05:07 |
| _Razor_ | last day of week to smash code :) | 05:08 |
| Stskeeps | naah, saturday and sunday too | 05:08 |
| Stskeeps | though i won't be working tomorrow, my birthday | 05:09 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, are you going to have party? | 05:09 |
| iekku | or something special? | 05:09 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: not really, but i do think to perhaps go out | 05:09 |
| * Stskeeps isn't very creative in that area | 05:09 | |
| iekku | well, it's special that you don't work | 05:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah :P | 05:10 |
| iekku | :P | 05:10 |
| E-P | :) | 05:10 |
| kyleven | ； | 05:13 |
| iekku | i think i will be 17 one year more | 05:17 |
| E-P | I have been in your car while you have been driving that... so admit that you are 18! | 05:20 |
| iekku | never! | 05:20 |
| iekku | and who needs card for driving? you didn't ask to see my driving license | 05:21 |
| E-P | true | 05:21 |
| iekku | and the fact how scared you all were... | 05:21 |
| iekku | haha, reminded me that mr. toropainen dind't let managers come to my car when we had trip to jyväskylä | 05:22 |
| iekku | "too much risks" | 05:22 |
| E-P | somehow that doesn't surprise me :D | 05:22 |
| iekku | :( | 05:23 |
| iekku | E-P, imagine situation now when i have much more powerfull car | 05:23 |
| E-P | you don't have the corolla anymore? | 05:23 |
| iekku | no :( | 05:23 |
| RhymeswA | Probably being 21 again and again would be better, gotta have a beer on your birthday ... | 05:23 |
| iekku | kind of miss that | 05:24 |
| iekku | RhymeswA, in finland it's 18 | 05:24 |
| E-P | bity, it was such a nice car | 05:24 |
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| iekku | E-P, kottarainen :) now we have mäymobil | 05:24 |
| iekku | and everyone were sure that i lost my lisence in year when we bought it... | 05:25 |
| E-P | what do you drive nowdays? (so that I can watch out when I am visiting at Tampere) | 05:25 |
| iekku | purple e36 bmw | 05:26 |
| E-P | didn't see that coming | 05:26 |
| RhymeswA | iekku, ok 18 over and over :) | 05:26 |
| iekku | neither did i | 05:26 |
| iekku | RhymeswA, if you are 18 you need to start to act like adult | 05:27 |
| E-P | I thought that you will have some sort of american hotrod | 05:27 |
| iekku | and statrt to look like one | 05:27 |
| iekku | E-P, :D | 05:27 |
| iekku | E-P, i have been dreaming older corolla | 05:27 |
| E-P | but bmw fits nicely for you, you are just 17 :D | 05:27 |
| iekku | E-P, and it has morosport equipments etc.. so it's tuned bmw... | 05:28 |
| RhymeswA | iekku, on your birthday ?? Finland can't be that different ... | 05:28 |
| iekku | RhymeswA, :P | 05:28 |
| iekku | E-P, my mom said when we bought mämobiili that i have lost my identity... | 05:29 |
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| E-P | definitely, the corolla was part of your soul | 05:30 |
| iekku | it was my first car | 05:30 |
| iekku | wasn't rocket, but i wasn't going to moon anyway, so... | 05:31 |
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| iekku | E-P, but there's one great thing in our new car. you can only imagine what kind of looks i get when jump out from car with my needlejacket | 05:32 |
| E-P | :D | 05:32 |
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| iekku | and it has c-casette player \o/ can listen to my old punk casettes while dringving | 05:34 |
| iekku | driving... | 05:35 |
| E-P | what is this c-casette that you are talking about... :P | 05:36 |
| Paimen | the one you need to rewind with pencil | 05:36 |
| iekku | something forgot before you were born? | 05:36 |
| Paimen | so batteries on your walkman does not die so fast | 05:36 |
| E-P | :) | 05:37 |
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| timoph | morning from joensuu | 05:45 |
| E-P | morning timoph o/ | 05:46 |
| E-P | ilosaari rock starting today? | 05:46 |
| timoph | yep | 05:46 |
| iekku | :D | 05:46 |
| timoph | actully there's some clubs today. The main festival starts tomorrow | 05:47 |
| Paimen | oh that too, unfortunately I'll miss all the festivals this summer | 05:47 |
| iekku | i'm going to only one festival this year | 05:47 |
| iekku | or this summer | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not, because of too much travel and starting work | 05:47 |
| E-P | timoph: are you camping? or high-tech-hotel/aparment? | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | my heart was hurting when seeing pictures from roskilde festival | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:47 |
| timoph | E-P: staying with a friend | 05:48 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, *hug* | 05:48 |
| timoph | I've lived about 4 years in joensuu so I have some places to crash here | 05:48 |
| iekku | :) | 05:49 |
| E-P | timoph: have fun! | 05:49 |
| iekku | i'm going to puntala to see what kind of 'escaped from bird atlas' punks there's this year | 05:49 |
| iekku | last year was on honeymoon so missed it | 05:49 |
| timoph | damn. I'm going to miss liimanarina | 05:51 |
| iekku | timoph, that's shame | 05:52 |
| timoph | yeah. need to leave on sunday before they play | 05:53 |
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| iekku | back in the days when i was 15 or 16 used to listen liimanarina with my friend | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | that was just a year ago, hardly back in the days, iekku ;) | 05:58 |
| iekku | year or two, who counts? | 05:59 |
| E-P | ha! | 05:59 |
| E-P | your curtain is falling | 05:59 |
| iekku | :cry: | 06:00 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, E-P is evil! | 06:00 |
| Paimen | iekku: he is QA-guy he is supposed to be at least little evil | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: good, evil gets things done! ;) | 06:01 |
| iekku | :D | 06:01 |
| E-P | heh | 06:01 |
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| iekku | :P | 06:02 |
| E-P | there is ;) | 06:02 |
| iekku | i know | 06:02 |
| iekku | :D | 06:02 |
| E-P | iekku: btw, for the next qa meeting I should gather some bug metrics, can you help me with that? | 06:03 |
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| timoph | crying started here as well | 06:04 |
| timoph | (the people I'm staying with have a 4 week old girl) | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | hello Peppepappa :) | 06:05 |
| Peppepappa | hi there... | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | Peppepappa: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 06:05 |
| Peppepappa | actually, I was looking for lbt - we swapped a few tweets a while ago | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, he's probably not awake yet :) | 06:06 |
| iekku | E-P, uh oh, if i have enough time. i need to take care of wife during the weekend and mon-tue is going to be very hard. | 06:07 |
| Peppepappa | understand... neither am I, but have a deadline to meet | 06:07 |
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| Stskeeps | Peppepappa: btw, regarding sound designer, send your CV (in .pdf) in careers@jollamobile.com with a blurb why you'd like to work with Jolla (in english) | 06:07 |
| iekku | oh, coming to hki, bbl | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | Peppepappa: just saw your tweet myself | 06:08 |
| Peppepappa | Yep, thanks. Yeah, I've been doing all sorts of audio things for... what, 20 years? | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, just looking at your website too, very impressive | 06:09 |
| Peppepappa | I'll send some email... don't get fooled by the picture of an ogre on my web page, I'm a happier guy than what seems. :-D | 06:09 |
| E-P | iekku: ok, if you have some scripts/tools or advises for that, it would be helpful | 06:09 |
| Peppepappa | I think a family here needs some attention... better go and do breakfast now. See you a bit later. | 06:10 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I bind mount /home/zhanghui/project/src to /home/zhanghui/build-root/home:zhanghui-armv7el/home/project/src, and then 'osc chroot', but under chroot, i can see nothing under /home/project/src, but it is ok outside chroot(i.e. I can see files under xxx/build-root/xxx/project/src), | 06:29 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: what is wrong with my stuff? | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: is this arm build? | 06:30 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, can you make it so that it's /home/abuild/project somehow? | 06:31 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, | 06:31 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: the same problem ... | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: hmmm | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: is this within sb2 that you can't find it? | 06:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: what do you mean by 'within sb2'? I haven't done 'osc -t' yet for the moment, | 06:39 |
| sonach | just after osc chroot, | 06:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: 'osc -t' --> 'sb2 -t' ! | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: interesting | 06:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: my command is something like "sudo mount --bind /home/zhanghui/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde/xf86-video-fbtde-0.1.0/ /home/zhanghui/obswork/build-root/home\:zhanghui-armv7el/home/abuild/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde/" | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and that doesn't show up as /home\:zhanghui-armv7el/home/abuild/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde/ in the osc chroot ? | 06:40 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: in the chroot, it is '/home/abuild/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde', there is nothing here. will it something related to the user permissions? | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:43 |
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| pohly | lbt: the SyncEvolution nightly test server on meego.com crashed again - can you restart it, please? | 06:46 |
| pohly | x-fade: ^^^ or perhaps you can restart the machine? | 06:47 |
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| lbt | pohly: sure | 06:53 |
| pohly | I have a watchdog script running, but it didn't trigger a reboot. | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | pohly: is it a OOM scenario or? | 06:54 |
| lbt | pohly: did the sysrq trick not work | 06:54 |
| pohly | Stskeeps: kernel bug. A CPU gets stuck. | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 06:54 |
| pohly | lbt: I'm no longer logged in, so I couldn't try. The script should have done the same when it sees the tell-tale kernel messages, but that didn't work. | 06:55 |
| lbt | no, apparently not | 06:55 |
| lbt | if tail -n 1000 -f /var/log/kern.log | grep -m 1 "BUG: soft lockup"; then echo true; fi | 06:55 |
| lbt | hangs :) | 06:55 |
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| pohly | eh, "echo true"? There should have been the code to reset the machine. Will check - as soon as I can again ;-} | 06:57 |
| lbt | I just spotted that in the bash log and guessed it was the base of the watchdog | 06:58 |
| pohly | The final version is in /etc/rc.local | 06:59 |
| lbt | it's coming back now ... poor filesystem :) | 06:59 |
| lbt | anyhow ... morning all | 06:59 |
| pohly | lbt: thanks! | 06:59 |
| lbt | up | 07:00 |
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| iekku | i try to get something | 07:05 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: saw Peppepappa popped in | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 07:09 |
| lbt | good stuff | 07:09 |
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| phaeron | morning | 07:20 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: I don't understand what you mean. this preserves the build status of the package meta, so if a package is build disabled in source it will be the same in the target project | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, so, my current scenario is that i have a project with <link> to another OBS. currently, the obs does not allow me to independently enable builds for a linked package like that | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | and it doesn't pick it up from the <link> that the package is actually disabled | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | or something | 07:23 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: that's not what you asked for yesterday | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: not complaining, just for good measure, i might just have explained it in a wrong manner.. | 07:24 |
| * Stskeeps tries to rephrase | 07:25 | |
| phaeron | I get the picture | 07:25 |
| phaeron | preserve package meta in project link over remote link | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | so, as you know, mer cross compiled architectures are set up in a way, that there is a <repository><path> to Core:i486, where all x86 packages are disabled, except for a few. the project has <link> to a remote link OBS project, where the _meta says "disable for i586" | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | this works for linkpac but not for <link> | 07:26 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, is nokia shedding people as development champions because they're qt or symbian c++ people? .. | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | have these people gone mad? | 07:34 |
| lpotter | ? | 07:34 |
| lpotter | whats a development champion? | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | seeing random reports from people that they're no longer nokia development champion | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | such as "do not fit into Nokia?s future and a decision was made to end your Nokia Developer Championship early.' | 07:35 |
| lpotter | hmm.. thats weird | 07:35 |
| lpotter | but a very good way to piss off developers | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | oh yes | 07:36 |
| * lbt tries to think of a platform where they're looking for development champions... | 07:37 | |
| jjardon | Stskeeps: hey, did you think about my suggestion to add gstreamer-vaapi to the repos? | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: it feels a bit like it belongs over in hardware adaptation | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | where we have libva too | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | (i think) | 07:38 |
| * Stskeeps checks | 07:38 | |
| Stskeeps | yes, it belongs in hw adaptation | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | libva is pretty non-existent on arm, so | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | and gstreamer-vaapi is plugin-like enough to be in a hw adaptation instead | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | such as generic x86 | 07:39 |
| jjardon | hw adaptation? It contains gstreamer plugins, like the ones in -base or -good | 07:40 |
| jjardon | ah, understand | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: right, so, libva is next level straight onto specific hardware | 07:40 |
| jjardon | Stskeeps: where are the "hardware adaptation" repos? | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | that's hosted outside mer, for example Nemo has the generic X86 adaptation | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture , the text blurb explains a bit about this | 07:41 |
| * jjardon reading | 07:42 | |
| sonach | Stskeeps: any ideas about my question? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: no, i'm baffled as to why a bind mount wouldn't work | 07:43 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, i try to ask lbt :) | 07:43 |
| sonach | lbt: hi, my bind mount doesn't take effect in 'osc chroot', any ideas? | 07:44 |
| lbt | sonach: sec... in a meeting | 07:45 |
| sonach | lbt: ok :P | 07:45 |
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| jjardon | Stskeeps: oh, so was MeeGo 1.3 even released? | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: long story short, they introduced systemd, then mostly dropped it on the floor, we spent ages fixing it for our community edition work | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | we started looking into better ways to do meego, intel forked to tizen, we continued in mer | 07:51 |
| jjardon | we are using meego in a project, could you give me an idea how hard would be to migrate to MeeGo 1.3/mer? | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: in positive news, copyproject is behaving well | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: systemd is a challenge but honestly, it's worth the move | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | mer is far more saner to do products with | 07:53 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: for i586 at least | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:53 |
| jjardon | The project is quite advanced, so I need strong reasons to migrate ;) | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: get your product out first but be aware of massive CVE issues in meego 1.2 | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | and start development work into seeing how mer can benefit you | 07:54 |
| jjardon | Stskeeps: where can I find the list of CVE? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=RELEASED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&longdesc=cve&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr , but there's ... | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | ... also libpng issues | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | some of them we just fixed right away instead of filing bug | 07:56 |
| lbt | sonach: OK .. so can you explain a little? | 07:59 |
| jjardon | Stskeeps: thanks for the link | 08:02 |
| lbt | jjardon: also we have some docs about getting mer working on base HW | 08:04 |
| lbt | so we try to make that part easy | 08:04 |
| lbt | an evaluation goal may be simply to run a minimal UX on your device | 08:04 |
| lbt | that exposes you to tools and processes too | 08:05 |
| lbt | and also shows you some systemd initialisation aspects | 08:05 |
| lbt | ideally it's a 2-3day task ... even less for someone who knows the tools and for nice HW | 08:05 |
| jjardon | lbt: sure Ill play if I have time after fixing all the bugs I have assigned ;) | 08:06 |
| lbt | *g* ... OK ... I think that would be a good approach to getting a proper answer to your question | 08:06 |
| jjardon | somebody knows about problems in QML transparency and video reproduction here btw? | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | maybe w00t, i think some of the trolls are on vacation | 08:08 |
| w00t | jjardon: video reproduction? - you can always try me | 08:08 |
| jjardon | w00t: hey! thanks! the problem is this: I have a QML test program with transparent background so I can show videos in overlay | 08:09 |
| jjardon | all works ok, but with some videos, the QML gets opaque | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | jjardon: is this with meego gstreamer/qtmultimedia? | 08:10 |
| jjardon | w00t: yeah, gstreamer | 08:10 |
| jjardon | more specificaly, only using vaapisink | 08:11 |
| jjardon | some mpeg2 work fine, but in others I get black screen. Even in some I get the video for a second and then black screen | 08:11 |
| jjardon | weird, isnt it? | 08:12 |
| w00t | is this QML1 or QML2? how are you displaying the video, also? | 08:12 |
| jjardon | QML1 | 08:12 |
| jjardon | I create a pipeline and set the sink I want | 08:12 |
| jjardon | one moment | 08:13 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Kili :) | 08:14 |
| ZiQiangHuan | jjardon: maybe you can use qtmutimedia's demo player, to see whether it can work | 08:14 |
| jjardon | w00t: this is in my main: http://fpaste.org/Q14V/ | 08:14 |
| jjardon | GstOverlayItem is my gstreamer-based player | 08:15 |
| w00t | ok, that looks fine | 08:15 |
| w00t | i'd want to check if gst was creating its own overlay window in that circumstance, I think | 08:16 |
| jjardon | w00t: I start to think that maybe Its a bug in gstreamer-vaapi or in the drivers? | 08:16 |
| jjardon | one moment | 08:16 |
| w00t | jjardon: i don't know enough about gst to comment there, I just know that I had a hard time with overlay windows being created when they shouldn't in the past once | 08:16 |
| jjardon | w00t: as I say, the transparency with other sinks work ok | 08:18 |
| w00t | mmk | 08:18 |
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| jjardon | also, one strange thing about view.setViewport(new QGLWidget); | 08:23 |
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| jjardon | I have to remove it | 08:23 |
| francois__ | hi! | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: URL is now at https://build.ci.merproject.org | 08:24 |
| francois__ | you're reading my mind :-) | 08:24 |
| jjardon | w00t: if not, the first video plays ok, bug the in the second, the QML view is not refreshed, so the opacity increases. After 4 videos the screen is totally opaque. Is this normal? This happen with all the sinks | 08:25 |
| lbt | francois__: api changed to if you used osc https://api.ci.... | 08:25 |
| w00t | jjardon: if you don't force-repaint the area where the video was playing between videos, yes | 08:25 |
| francois__ | Indeed I do! Thanks! | 08:25 |
| w00t | perhaps | 08:25 |
| w00t | I'd check what removing Qt::WA_OpaquePaintEvent does in that case | 08:26 |
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| jjardon | w00t: ok, anyway the black screen issue is not solved even using opengl | 08:27 |
| sonach | lbt: yes, I bind mount /home/zhanghui/project/src to /home/zhanghui/build-root/home:zhanghui-armv7el/home/project/src, and then 'osc chroot', but under chroot, i can see nothing under /home/project/src, but it is ok outside chroot(i.e. I can see files under xxx/build-root/xxx/project/src), | 08:29 |
| sonach | lbt: my command is "sudo mount --bind /home/zhanghui/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde/xf86-video-fbtde-0.1.0/ /home/zhanghui/obswork/build-root/home\:zhanghui-armv7el/home/abuild/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde/" | 08:29 |
| sonach | in the chroot, it is '/home/abuild/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde', there is nothing | 08:30 |
| lbt | and you execute the bind command in the SDK ? | 08:30 |
| sonach | lbt: ah... no, i execute it outside the SDK, | 08:30 |
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| jjardon | w00t: mmm, just read that WA_TranslucentBackground causes WA_NoSystemBackground to be set | 08:31 |
| w00t | jjardon: NoSystemBackground, sure, but probably not OpaquePaintEvent | 08:32 |
| w00t | i may be wrong though, i haven't done anything widgets-based in a while | 08:33 |
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| sonach | lbt: inside the SDK, it complaines: mount: only root can do that | 08:34 |
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| jjardon | w00t: nah, same problem :/ | 08:39 |
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| Sage_ | anyone interested of helping with tdriver/ruby debugging? | 08:43 |
| E-P | Sage_: what do you have? | 08:44 |
| Sage_ | lbt: I got the ruby stuff done but something isn't working there. However my laptop and host distro and everything changed so possibility for problems is huge | 08:44 |
| Sage_ | E-P: qttas for device with ui, tdriver and visualizer for mer sdk | 08:44 |
| Sage_ | I can run both, but there is problem with the connection | 08:44 |
| Paimen | what kind of problem | 08:45 |
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| Sage_ | sec. getting the log | 08:45 |
| lbt | sonach: OK, I'll take a look at that ... I think I know what it could be | 08:46 |
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| lbt | Sage_: yep - I'm doing OBS today now we sorted Mer CI | 08:46 |
| sonach | lbt: so, should I do bind mount inside or outside the SDK? | 08:46 |
| lbt | sonach: inside you still need sudo | 08:47 |
| Paimen | Sage_: what kind of device I would need to help with tdriver issues? | 08:47 |
| sonach | lbt: after add sudo , it reports: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /home/zhanghui/project/xorg-x11-drv-fbtde/xf86-video-fbtde-0.1.0 | 08:47 |
| Paimen | or just any that can drive qttas | 08:48 |
| sonach | lbt: sudo mount --bind -t ext4 xxx yyy | 08:48 |
| sonach | i think i do something wrong, | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | -t shouldn't be needed | 08:48 |
| Sage_ | Paimen: N900, N950, N9 would do | 08:48 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: even so, the syntax is still wrong :( | 08:49 |
| lbt | sonach: that's not the same command you used earlier | 08:49 |
| lbt | a bind mount has no type | 08:50 |
| lbt | it's closer to a symlink | 08:50 |
| lbt | or a hardlink really | 08:50 |
| sonach | lbt: http://pastie.org/4248659 | 08:50 |
| lbt | sonach: OK ... I have a couple of tasks I need to finish up here. | 08:51 |
| Paimen | hmm only have N9 and it is in use | 08:51 |
| lbt | I've got my SDK up - that's good enough for me to try to reproduce too | 08:52 |
| sonach | lbt: ok, no problem :) | 08:52 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: my leap motion SDK request, got a reply yesterday, "we're reviewing your application" :) | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok cool | 08:55 |
| alterego | Maybe I'll hear about it soon | 08:55 |
| alterego | Not holding my breathe though. They said they've had an overwhelming response, etc. So we'll see if my proposal was good enough :) | 08:56 |
| Sage_ | E-P: http://pastie.org/4248218 | 08:56 |
| Sage_ | E-P: there is "Object::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter" printed on qttaserver side so somekind of connection is established | 08:57 |
| E-P | Sage_: what do you have in your /etc/tdriver/tdriver_parameters.xml (if I remember the filename correctly) | 08:59 |
| E-P | aka, how you have defined the sut_qt_nemo_1 | 08:59 |
| alterego | win 12 | 08:59 |
| alterego | whoops | 08:59 |
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| Sage_ | E-P: http://pastie.org/4248705 | 09:02 |
| Sage_ | Paimen: http://pastie.org/4248704 quick guide how to start (cc: lbt, E-P) | 09:02 |
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| Paimen | Sage_: do you have log from device side? | 09:03 |
| jjardon | w00t: las comment about this. Even if I do not call view.setSource(main.qml), I get black screen, so seems a conflict between vaapisink and QDeclarativeView? | 09:03 |
| w00t | jjardon: curious... really not sure what to advise | 09:03 |
| lbt | Sage_: OK - I'll add that to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Getting_Started in the testing section | 09:04 |
| Sage_ | Paimen: not sure how to get it. Also not sure if the qttas should be running as root or user. As root it stays on and with user it quits instantly | 09:04 |
| Paimen | Sage_: ok | 09:04 |
| Paimen | wait a sec | 09:05 |
| Paimen | I think first time you ran qttas it was as root | 09:05 |
| E-P | Sage_: if you run it as root, can it access to the display then? | 09:05 |
| w00t | lbt: is it expected that search on COBS is busted? | 09:06 |
| lbt | yes | 09:06 |
| E-P | if you run it as user, make sure that the user has permissions to write to the /logs/testability and /tmp/ (or /var/tmp) | 09:06 |
| lbt | bottom of page is a working link to asearch page | 09:06 |
| Paimen | Sage_: and it makes one file that needs to be removed to be able to run it as user | 09:06 |
| w00t | ok, ta | 09:06 |
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| E-P | Paimen, Sage_: yep, the local qsocket file | 09:07 |
| E-P | it goes to /tmp/ or /var/tmp/ or similar | 09:07 |
| Paimen | E-P: that's it | 09:07 |
| Paimen | also you might need to mkdir that /logs/testability | 09:07 |
| Paimen | to be able to get logs | 09:08 |
| Sage_ | ah | 09:08 |
| Sage_ | that thing | 09:08 |
| E-P | /var/tmp/qttasserver_pipe | 09:08 |
| Paimen | with our system it was /tmp/qttasserver_pipe | 09:08 |
| Paimen | without /var/ | 09:09 |
| E-P | yes it depends, the qt takes the tmp dir from the sytem | 09:09 |
| E-P | system | 09:09 |
| Paimen | yup | 09:09 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4248746 | 09:11 |
| Sage_ | hmmp | 09:11 |
| Paimen | hmm that looks like problem | 09:11 |
| E-P | the 'address in use' usually indicates that the qlocalsocket files exists | 09:11 |
| E-P | try to remove the file and start the qttasserver from the terminal | 09:12 |
| Sage_ | [root@localhost repos.d]# netstat | grep 55535 | 09:12 |
| Sage_ | [root@localhost repos.d]# | 09:12 |
| Sage_ | ah it is not the por | 09:13 |
| Sage_ | ah, it existed | 09:13 |
| Sage_ | ok now it works | 09:13 |
| Paimen | good | 09:14 |
| Sage_ | qttasserver that is | 09:14 |
| Sage_ | not the full thing :) | 09:14 |
| E-P | next problem can be that the qttas doesn't find sysuid application | 09:14 |
| Paimen | :) | 09:14 |
| Paimen | just curious that it does not load platform traversers | 09:14 |
| Paimen | maybe it tries to load them from wrong place? | 09:15 |
| Paimen | install directory != where qt points those should be | 09:15 |
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| E-P | Paimen: was that they should be under qt/plugins/traversers or similar? | 09:16 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4248773 | 09:17 |
| Paimen | something like that | 09:17 |
| Sage_ | ok, so should qttas find some plugins? | 09:18 |
| Paimen | yes | 09:18 |
| Paimen | what kind of application is sysuid? | 09:18 |
| E-P | Sage_: so the connection works but it cannot find application | 09:18 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4248780 | 09:18 |
| Paimen | just thinking that could qttas find the appuid if it is not started without -testability switch | 09:19 |
| E-P | Sage_: is the ruby error now different? | 09:19 |
| Sage_ | Paimen: it is X application that is basically provided the status bar and lock screen | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, can we buy mer certificate somehow? | 09:19 |
| Sage_ | E-P: the ruby error is the same. that qttasserver startup problem wasn't when I first launched it. :) | 09:20 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes | 09:20 |
| lbt | actually I can get a free one | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: startssl, or? | 09:20 |
| lbt | iirc | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | check it out, i guess | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | it's starting to make us look unprofessional to the untrained eye, so | 09:20 |
| lbt | I did an eval... but honestly it was just low prio | 09:20 |
| E-P | Sage_: ok, can you start the sysuid application with -testability argument? | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: yes, i'd like to up it to high prio now | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | circumstances are different now | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | that, or we fix wiki requiring ssl | 09:21 |
| Paimen | but well -testability works only with Qt-applications | 09:21 |
| lbt | agreed, but not higher than CI OBS ? | 09:21 |
| Paimen | or am I misunderstand somethin E-P | 09:21 |
| E-P | Sage_: when you test a qt application, the application must load tdriver plugin | 09:21 |
| lbt | I'll look at it over the weekend when it's a touch quieter | 09:21 |
| E-P | Paimen: no, you are right :) | 09:21 |
| lbt | I need to do some infra work anyhow ... | 09:22 |
| Paimen | E-P: plugin and traverser directory is QLibraryInfo::PluginsPath + /tasfixture or /tasplugin etc | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: please switch wiki to do http only and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HttpsLogin | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: that should lower prio sufficiently | 09:22 |
| Sage_ | E-P: oh... | 09:22 |
| E-P | Paimen: thanks | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | well, http and https if needed | 09:22 |
| Paimen | so kind of depends on system configuration | 09:22 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: why? | 09:23 |
| Paimen | and that is something bit stupid | 09:23 |
| lbt | oh, for anonymous users | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: because i'm getting tired of having people complain they can't read mer wiki, which is our primary info source.. | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | simple as that.. | 09:23 |
| Sage_ | TestabilityPlugin::Initialize() could not load testability library: "Cannot load library qttestability: (libqttestability.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)" | 09:23 |
| Sage_ | ok, tha might be the issue :) | 09:23 |
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| E-P | yep :) | 09:24 |
| lbt | alterego: you have root on wiki - want to do that? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | the https redirect comes outside wiki, doesn't it, though? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | the extension is wiki naturally | 09:24 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: note that most people will have seen a permanent redirect | 09:24 |
| lbt | this will have been cached by their browser and they literrally will not be able to access http | 09:25 |
| lbt | they have to clear cache and it's hard | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | that's another issue, it's a bigger problem for newcomers | 09:25 |
| E-P | Sage_: that came when you tried to start the sysuid with -testability? | 09:25 |
| lbt | agree - just saying we need to retain https | 09:25 |
| Sage_ | E-P: yes | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:25 |
| lbt | I can remove the hard redirect | 09:25 |
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| alterego | lbt: syre | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | that'd be lovely | 09:26 |
| alterego | ~sure .. | 09:26 |
| alterego | I'll do it in a few minutes. | 09:26 |
| E-P | Sage_: 'good', so the qttas lib is in wrong place :) | 09:26 |
| Sage_ | E-P: http://pastie.org/4248812 | 09:26 |
| Sage_ | where should it be? :) | 09:26 |
| E-P | well.. where is it currently? I think is should be /usr/lib | 09:27 |
| E-P | or the qt tries to load the libs somewhere else | 09:27 |
| lbt | done : http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: fwiw my browser didn't redirect | 09:28 |
| Sage_ | E-P: http://pastie.org/4248823 | 09:28 |
| Sage_ | E-P: it used to work from there previously so I wonder what is wrong now | 09:28 |
| lbt | no, mine neither... I didn't expect that | 09:28 |
| E-P | Sage_: that lib should come with the qttas core package | 09:28 |
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| Paimen | Sage_: that seems like legit place | 09:29 |
| Paimen | E-P I think it is from qttas-server-plugins | 09:30 |
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| E-P | http://gitorious.org/tdriver/agent_qt/blobs/3ea8f84980310a4211cee18b17e8e1cbaa66d69e/tascore/tascore.pro | 09:30 |
| anidel | \o | 09:31 |
| E-P | the qttas-server.spec has also libs package | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | morn anidel :) | 09:31 |
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| anidel | morning Stskeeps | 09:31 |
| * Sage_ :headdes: | 09:31 | |
| E-P | Sage_: do you have qttas-server-libs installed? | 09:32 |
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| Sage_ | !"?!%!&! | 09:33 |
| MerBot | Sage_: Error: No closing quotation | 09:33 |
| Sage_ | one file in wrong package :D | 09:33 |
| E-P | :D | 09:33 |
| Paimen | :) | 09:33 |
| Sage_ | /usr/lib/libqttestability.so is in qttas-server-devel | 09:33 |
| E-P | aah | 09:34 |
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| Sage_ | there is separete file for it | 09:34 |
| Paimen | :) | 09:34 |
| Sage_ | E-P: so you were right | 09:34 |
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| E-P | and the -libs has .so.* | 09:34 |
| Sage_ | partly | 09:34 |
| Paimen | well those should be requirements in spec | 09:34 |
| E-P | yep, the .so shouldn't be in -devel | 09:34 |
| E-P | (then the rmplint complains about that) | 09:35 |
| * Sage_ goes to fix | 09:36 | |
| Sage_ | also qttas-server should probably require qttas-server-libs | 09:37 |
| E-P | yes | 09:37 |
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| Paimen | well qttas-server requires -plugins that requires -libs | 09:37 |
| Paimen | hmm forget this is our internal .spec I was looking | 09:38 |
| Sage_ | -plugins requires -libs? | 09:38 |
| Paimen | no it does not | 09:38 |
| Sage_ | 12:37.49 < Paimen> well qttas-server requires -plugins that requires -libs | 09:39 |
| Paimen | I'm just wrong side of caffein and was looking -devel | 09:39 |
| Sage_ | hehe :D | 09:39 |
| Sage_ | ok | 09:39 |
| Paimen | no requirements on plugins | 09:39 |
| E-P | Paimen: btw, are from Vehmersalmi? (just looking the twitter) | 09:42 |
| E-P | +you | 09:42 |
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| Paimen | yes | 09:42 |
| Paimen | well I live here, not from orginally | 09:43 |
| E-P | ok, my grandparents house is in there | 09:43 |
| Paimen | this is nice place to live in | 09:44 |
| E-P | indeed | 09:45 |
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| alterego | Well, time to work on new dialer UI | 09:46 |
| sledges | +1 | 09:48 |
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| lbt | wiki's secure now anyway | 09:56 |
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| lbt | ah, that's better ... | 09:58 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: that extension doesn't work as advertised | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | hmm> | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 09:59 |
| Sage_ | lbt: ok, need another review for ruby stuff :) | 10:01 |
| Sage_ | also testability visualizer starts on fedora host + mer sdk :) | 10:01 |
| Sage_ | where it didn't work on opensuse | 10:01 |
| Paimen | aah visualizer, it promises more than it can deliver | 10:02 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: logout of wiki and login again | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: redirect loop? | 10:03 |
| lbt | yeah | 10:03 |
| lbt | meanwhile OBS is not being reviewd or packaged | 10:03 |
| lbt | I think this is the abort point for now | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | mmk | 10:04 |
| Sage_ | grr... I broke it again... | 10:04 |
| lbt | and I think we should return to https only or we'll be permitting http login | 10:04 |
| lbt | sorry | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: OK | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: do we need a wildcard cert, or? | 10:12 |
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| lbt | no | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | no? | 10:12 |
| lbt | no | 10:12 |
| lbt | I said I'd sort it tomorrow/sunday ... is that OK? | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | just wondering in general :) | 10:13 |
| lbt | yeah - I haven't dug up the email | 10:13 |
| lbt | ISTR we get free single domain certs | 10:13 |
| lbt | I just dropped it because I have a really easy self-sign process at the moment | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | alright, as long as we have a plan | 10:14 |
| lbt | as seen by how easy it was to make the new build.ci ones | 10:14 |
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| lbt | 30s each .. job done | 10:14 |
| lbt | I think we'll go with bugs and wiki to start, then maybe build/api when we do mer cobs | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: what's easy for us isn't always easy for everybody | 10:15 |
| lbt | I realise ... but Mer was a hackerspace then :) | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:15 |
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| Stskeeps | right, i don't have anything else, just relaying expectations :) | 10:16 |
| shrikrishna | is ARM-Cortex A8's architecture armv7l or v7hl? | 10:19 |
| lbt | headache ... working quietly for a bit | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: both | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: two different ABI | 10:20 |
| tanuk2 | At https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Target_Preparation the instructions tell me to download http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/kickstarts/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks | 10:23 |
| tanuk2 | Wouldn't it be better to link to the latest release? | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | it would, if we have sdk out the door, with kickstarts generated :P | 10:24 |
| tanuk2 | The latest release doesn't have the kickstart files, though. | 10:24 |
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| tanuk2 | Stskeeps: Do you mean that the kickstart files are tied to sdk releases? And that there haven't been sdk releases for a while? | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | tanuk2: yes | 10:31 |
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| tanuk2 | Ok, thanks. | 10:31 |
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| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: if I were trying to build mer from source on an n950, which one of v7l or hl would i place my bet on? | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: first off, i assume you mean to make a image for n950? | 10:42 |
| shrikrishna | i read arm's page on ABI, but didnt get an idea as to how to know which one to choose | 10:42 |
| shrikrishna | yup | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok, select armv7hl | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's what images exist for | 10:42 |
| slaine | And don't build mer for the n950 ON the n950 | 10:43 |
| Sage_ | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5203 | 10:43 |
| slaine | shudder | 10:43 |
| shrikrishna | slaine: of course! | 10:43 |
| Sage_ | E-P: ^ | 10:44 |
| shrikrishna | i want to build an image with a few tweaks and load it on an n950 | 10:44 |
| lbt | shrikrishna: hehe | 10:45 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Getting_Started | 10:45 |
| shrikrishna | lbt: that page is pinned in my chromium :P | 10:45 |
| lbt | good - anidel did the n950 ks too | 10:46 |
| shrikrishna | oh.. sorry.. some other mer wiki page :P | 10:46 |
| lbt | https://gist.github.com/3091503 | 10:46 |
| shrikrishna | lbt: thanks! :) | 10:46 |
| lbt | I need to add that - was waiting for a git pull from him but may push it first | 10:46 |
| lbt | if you follow that, feel free to duplicate the N900 section for N950 | 10:47 |
| lbt | Sage_: noted | 10:48 |
| anidel | sorry didn't have time, had to switch to another project that had bigger priority here :( | 10:48 |
| lbt | Jolla? | 10:48 |
| anidel | I wish :) | 10:48 |
| anidel | if you're asking me :p | 10:48 |
| lbt | anidel: soon eh? | 10:49 |
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| E-P | Sage_: the qttas looks ok | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: went successfully from .0.0.1 to .0.0.2 to 0.0.3 | 10:49 |
| anidel | won't have time until Tue/Wed | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | in iterations of copies | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | with publishes each time | 10:50 |
| lbt | anidel: OK, good to know, I may well finish up for you then | 10:50 |
| Paimen | Sage_: good work with qttas | 10:51 |
| anidel | thanks, sorry. | 10:51 |
| lbt | anidel: I'd say np ... but it's better if you feel guilty and then have to come back to fix it somehow *g* | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: btw, there's some setting somewhere that says 'repos.ci', it's actually repo.ci | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | know where thati s? | 10:52 |
| anidel | lbt :D may very well work | 10:53 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: production.rb | 10:54 |
| lbt | fixed | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: thanks | 10:54 |
| lbt | nb ... not seen any issues since the marathon | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | me neither | 10:54 |
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| lbt | we *did* see them on this new setup until I stopped the tspre.org fwd | 10:55 |
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| lbt | nb .. did you fix CI BOSS ? | 10:55 |
| lbt | I've not looked at it | 10:55 |
| lbt | as in the api configuration | 10:56 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: there are couple of packages (tdriver gems) that are not using gem2rpm but that was because gem2rpm didn't work for those I guess those gems need work for gem level to provide missing information. Rest of the ruby stuff is based on opensuse packages. | 10:56 |
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| lbt | relevant bugs ? | 10:57 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: no, CI BOSS is offline as there was new version to be deployed | 10:59 |
| lbt | yeah - was hoping it was an internal bug. | 11:00 |
| Sage_ | lbt: haven't done bugs for those things yet. | 11:00 |
| Sage_ | those packages are using those opensuse ruby install macros already though | 11:01 |
| lbt | ok, let me know what they are before I do the review for them (it would be enough to add them as comments to 5203, no need to add them to clogs or anything) | 11:01 |
| Sage_ | sure | 11:05 |
| Sage_ | .... Now it works... | 11:06 |
| Sage_ | I fixed something else while fixing qttas problems apparently :D | 11:06 |
| Sage_ | ah, other one fails | 11:08 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: where does ruby belong in bugzilla? | 11:09 |
| E-P | Sage_: does the test case work for you now? | 11:10 |
| Sage_ | E-P: yes | 11:10 |
| E-P | with or without -testability parameter? | 11:10 |
| Sage_ | without actually | 11:10 |
| lbt | Sage_: hmm SDK or QA tools probably | 11:10 |
| Sage_ | qt loads that automatically it seems | 11:10 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: sorry was disconnected , did you say anything | 11:11 |
| Sage_ | lbt: sdk is under MINT | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: went successfully from .0.0.1 to .0.0.2 to 0.0.3 | 11:11 |
| E-P | Sage_: yes, there is environment variable for that | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | in iterations of copies, publishes each time | 11:11 |
| E-P | Sage_: great to hear that it works now | 11:11 |
| Paimen | Sage_: also meegotouch did load it automatically | 11:12 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: yes and I said ; | 11:12 |
| phaeron | (02:02:15 PM) phaeron: Stskeeps: cool | 11:12 |
| phaeron | (02:02:40 PM) phaeron: Stskeeps: the patch I pasted in the morning should be ok for preserving package state during obs - obs prjcopy | 11:12 |
| phaeron | (02:03:38 PM) phaeron: Stskeeps: but for project links, I took a look and it is a bit involved | 11:12 |
| Paimen | hmm I was pondering trough our code and found another plugin | 11:12 |
| Paimen | that calculates cpu-utilisation for some other process | 11:13 |
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| Paimen | hmm not cpu, memory it is | 11:13 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: fixing those last two packages now | 11:14 |
| E-P | Paimen: those might be very useful plugins for testing | 11:16 |
| Paimen | E-P: yup need to look into bit, it has some bugs into it | 11:17 |
| E-P | does the plugin use another tool for looking the mem-utilisation? | 11:17 |
| Paimen | also we utilised context switch calculations with tdriver scripting | 11:17 |
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| Paimen | E-P: it reads things form /proc/%pid/statm | 11:18 |
| E-P | Paimen: ok | 11:18 |
| Paimen | really simple solution actually | 11:19 |
| Paimen | it works either with process name or pid | 11:20 |
| E-P | nice | 11:20 |
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| Paimen | there is just this one stupid bug that it logs name of application running via tdriver and not the process it is watching | 11:21 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: ok, would <build><enable package="packagename></build> in prj meta be easier? | 11:24 |
| Paimen | E-P: not sure did you read the logs about memory calculation bug in qttas | 11:24 |
| Paimen | that it returns page count instead of bytes | 11:24 |
| E-P | Paimen: no I haven't | 11:25 |
| E-P | but that is useful to know, do you know is it fixed already? | 11:25 |
| Paimen | well we have patch for it | 11:25 |
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| Stskeeps | hello hengzhi :) | 11:25 |
| Paimen | E-P: https://gitorious.org/tdriver/agent_qt/merge_requests/22 | 11:25 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: you probably mean disable. I am not sure if that works. I'll dig into it later | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: i actually mean enable, but only for these packages | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | or something | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, later is OK | 11:26 |
| phaeron | I thought the majority were enabled , and then some were disabld | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | <disable arch="i586"><enable package="cross-arm-gcc" arch="i586"> | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | no, reverse | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | two schedulers, i586 and arm, in i586 all is disabled, except for a few, like cross compiler, sb2 tools, etc | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | and arm all enabled | 11:27 |
| Paimen | E-P: also fps fixture does not work with qtQuick 2.0 | 11:28 |
| E-P | Paimen: heh :) | 11:28 |
| Paimen | it does not have Scenegraph definations in code | 11:28 |
| Paimen | we fixed it to our version of qtQuick 2.0 that runs on Qt4.8, but it needs work to work with qt5.0 | 11:29 |
| Paimen | just pointing out that there is lot of to do with qttasserver and it seems Nokia is not contributing much to it anymore | 11:30 |
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| E-P | Paimen: have you tried the TDriver with qt5? | 11:30 |
| Paimen | not yet | 11:31 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: hmm .. | 11:31 |
| E-P | would be nice to know is there much to fix/changes | 11:31 |
| Paimen | something on my backlog, but not had time to do that | 11:31 |
| E-P | Paimen: there should be a qt5 branch in TDriver repository, so I think someone is doing that | 11:31 |
| Paimen | yes there is, but has there been any commits lately | 11:32 |
| E-P | just checking :) | 11:32 |
| Paimen | because iirc that branch had the old naming of objects etc | 11:32 |
| E-P | last commit, monday 17.8.2011.... | 11:33 |
| Paimen | qtquick classes to be precise | 11:33 |
| Paimen | E-P: tdriver we have is 1.4 with some changes merged from qml2 branch and lot of dirty fixes to make it work | 11:34 |
| E-P | will be nice to see what happens to the TDriver | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | probably worthwhile to continue in community | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | given the lesser attention on qt in nokia | 11:34 |
| Sage_ | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5204 all with gem2rpm-opensuse guide here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Ruby | 11:34 |
| Paimen | well one thing that I have been pondering and I'm going to propose is that we should continue it as community and I'll ask if we have at least some resources to put into it in our company | 11:35 |
| Paimen | not sure should there be branch for mer, that could be place where patch could be land? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: that, or some way to manually enable <link> packages for build in a project | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | as you can't currently enable them for build | 11:39 |
| lbt | Sage_: excellent - ty | 11:41 |
| E-P | Paimen: mer specified patches we have usually added to mer git or to some own repository, keeping the upstream as it is | 11:44 |
| Paimen | ah | 11:44 |
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| E-P | lbt: should we have or do we have a common repo for tools where we could do the development? | 11:45 |
| E-P | meaning that mer git should have 'released' sources of the tools, but the actual development is done elsewhere | 11:46 |
| lbt | E-P: I think it's OK to have Mer:Tools:Testing for that | 11:47 |
| lbt | so branch to your home whilst hacking | 11:47 |
| lbt | then when you're ready to share with the team, move the package to M:T:T | 11:48 |
| lbt | that says "ready for consideration into an image/release" | 11:48 |
| lbt | then we need to promote to Mer:Tools - we have no criteria here yet | 11:48 |
| lbt | Mer:Tools can be released when release criteria are met | 11:49 |
| E-P | lbt: ok | 11:49 |
| lbt | ie when we like or when certain blockers are done | 11:49 |
| lbt | so Mer:Tools is like Trunk and (subject to policy) is always ready for release | 11:49 |
| lbt | M:T:Testing is for us all to share our work and check interoperability (eg we may ask a few devs to run a local SDK with new spectacle from M:T:T) | 11:51 |
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| Sage_ | E-P: we need to define steps how to test tests :) | 12:17 |
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| Paimen | you need to create test framework that tests the test framework :P | 12:18 |
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| Sage_ | I mean we need to define steps that define where files are and how user can test that they work easily. | 12:21 |
| Sage_ | eg. I have tests.xml what should I do with it? What command to execute to get the same result that would come when executed by automated tests stuff. | 12:22 |
| Paimen | yup | 12:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm a bit daft, what were you doing with obs atm? | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | (think it's friday afternoon hitting me already0 | 12:26 |
| lbt | reviewing phaeron's patch and making rpms | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | that's good for me too | 12:29 |
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| ericc_ | rpms？？？ | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes, rpms | 12:34 |
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| w00t | -%setup -q -n %{name}-%{name} | 12:35 |
| lbt | ericc_: I thought about .cab files ... | 12:35 |
| w00t | +%setup -q -n %{name}debian | 12:35 |
| w00t | I'm pretty sure the SDK's specify shouldn't have done that | 12:35 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: ipk is nice too :) | 12:35 |
| * lbt invites dm8tbr to the new package format meeting | 12:36 | |
| dm8tbr | lbt: is it in the bikeshed? | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | you can convert mer to debian if you convert all the packages and tools to work same way without regression | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:36 |
| lbt | nah it's permanently on in #devnull | 12:36 |
| dm8tbr | hihi | 12:37 |
| w00t | is anyone responsible for specify? or should I just not use it | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: sage | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | if the yaml can't be made into a sane spec after re-run, somebody screwed up the yaml/spec at some stage | 12:47 |
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| w00t | it's because of the stupid tarball naming i think | 12:47 |
| w00t | (blame gitorious) | 12:47 |
| w00t | I think specify is actually correct | 12:47 |
| w00t | (in "computers are smarter than people" shocker) | 12:48 |
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| ericc_ | how can i | 12:51 |
| ericc_ | instal | 12:51 |
| ericc_ | sdk | 12:52 |
| lbt | ericc_: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 12:54 |
| ericc_ | IT IS EASY INSTALL IT ? | 12:58 |
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| Stskeeps | hello rodrigo_golive :) | 13:26 |
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| Stskeeps | rcg, enjoying .za? | 13:27 |
| rodrigo_golive | Stskeeps: hi! | 13:28 |
| rodrigo_golive | I'm interested on this project ;) | 13:28 |
| rcg | hey Stskeeps | 13:28 |
| rcg | yeah, was very nice so far | 13:28 |
| rcg | today the weather is kinda bad but i don't mind too much =) | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | rodrigo_golive: excellent :) welcome here to #mer :) if you have any questions on Mer, or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time, else feel free to hang out :) | 13:30 |
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| rodrigo_golive | Stskeeps: thank you! my friend zanoni already booted up nemo on a 950 device, so cool! | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | cool :) | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | it's all hackable, an entire handset stack you can research and toy with | 13:32 |
| mikhas | do you have contributor stats for mer? | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: not a lot - the problem is there's many different kind of contribution types | 13:36 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: we have what goes into the code, on gerrit | 13:37 |
| mikhas | yes, true | 13:37 |
| mikhas | oh, wasnt aware that mer also uses gerrit | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | we do | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | moment | 13:37 |
| mikhas | it shows that I havent been here for a while | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | http://review.merproject.org/ | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | -> all, open | 13:37 |
| mikhas | thanks | 13:37 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: i also did statistics on MeeGo at some point.. on average, each meego package was touched 4 times | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | so i made a bet with myself we could do mer, with it's reduced package set, on a significant lower manpower amount | 13:38 |
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| alterego | Starting to run out of steam now. | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: it's weekend | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:44 |
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| ericc_ | a nice day | 13:51 |
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| francois__ | I'm not very familiar with baselibs.conf. Is it needed as part of the package Core:armv7l/sb2-tools-armv7l since it is dynamically created in the spec file? | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: baselibs.conf is a way to transfer from one rpm architecture to another | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | and between obs schedulers in practice | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | so sb2-tools-armv7l are sent to arm scheduler | 13:56 |
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| francois__ | but it is called by mkbaselibs during the build, isn't it? | 13:57 |
| francois__ | s/called/used | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | right | 13:58 |
| alterego | Interesting, pulse audio requires avahi. | 13:58 |
| * alterego ponders a bit more. | 13:59 | |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't, on mer | 14:00 |
| francois__ | I'm just wondering if I need to put it in the package sb2-tools itself (cf cat /tmp/baselibs_new.conf > %{_sourcedir}/baselibs.conf in the spec file) | 14:00 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: just wondering if it handles network audio streaming ;) | 14:00 |
| francois__ | because in the end it's the one created by the spec file that is used? | 14:00 |
| alterego | As I've mentioned, would really like to be able to do phone calls through my computer :D | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: sb2-tools-armv7l generates it's own baselibs.conf | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: check mer gitweb, sb2-tools-template | 14:01 |
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| francois__ | I have my own obs server running for playing. I'm still not quite sure about the steps to achieve to make it cross compile sh4 packages. I've imported MeeGo:1.2:oss. This is what I was thinking of: 1. Add the SB2install tag to the MeeGo:1.2:oss project config 2. Add the sh4 arch to the MeeGo:1.2:oss Meta file 3. Add the sb2-tools package | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: do you have meego for SH4 already? | 14:28 |
| francois__ | no... | 14:28 |
| francois__ | I was thinkg that it would bootstrap | 14:28 |
| francois__ | once the sb2-tools package would be there | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | ah, sadly not yet | 14:29 |
| francois__ | mmm | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | i have some prototypes but.. | 14:30 |
| francois__ | ok | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | wel | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | it depends on how much work you'd like to put into it. | 14:31 |
| francois__ | :) | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | you could theoretically pull it off with a bit of baselibs.conf'ing and meego-rpm-config, rpm's configs to target | 14:32 |
| francois__ | I'd just need the packages for the chroot, not the whole MeeGo distribution? | 14:33 |
| * Stskeeps ponders | 14:33 | |
| Stskeeps | francois__: how much time do you have and how into this are you to do it? :P | 14:34 |
| francois__ | I'd say a few weeks | 14:35 |
| francois__ | and was really hoping to make it work for sh4 and then mips (with a custom toolchain from broadcom) if that answers the how much I'm into it ;) | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | mips we have already, for mer itself | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | modern gcc4.7 | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | does your target systems have kernel 2.6.32 or above? | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | err, gcc4.6 | 14:37 |
| francois__ | that might be too much up to date | 14:37 |
| francois__ | :) | 14:37 |
| francois__ | I'll have to check with our team working on broadcom | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: do you know rpmbuild? | 14:38 |
| francois__ | yes I do | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | and you have toolchains already? | 14:39 |
| francois__ | yes | 14:39 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, if we make a deal that you'll help mer with a sh4 baseline for bootstrapping on top of (rpms), during/after this, i'll help you through doing this | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | i have some ideas that might make it easier | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | first off, grab Mer Platform SDK, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | it has tools for cross compilation, not tied to obs | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | what my aim is to help you with the ~123 packages that consitutes a minimal mer and bootstrap that using our tools, with help of scratchbox2 | 14:42 |
| francois__ | I see | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | i have a list, which helps a lot :P | 14:42 |
| francois__ | :) | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | and mer's git repos are full source dumps, not the partial ones from meego | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | i wasted a lot of time with src.rpms from meego | 14:43 |
| francois__ | The thing is, I can't promise I'll be able to save some time to help maintain an sh4 baseline. sh4 is somehow a dead branch here | 14:43 |
| mikhas | partial packages … | 14:43 |
| francois__ | since ST mostly uses arm now | 14:43 |
| mikhas | I hate them, even though I can understand the idea | 14:44 |
| mhoye | Hello, everyone. I don't know if this is the right channel for this question, but I'm wondering if it's possible to run the Hildon interface on x86. | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | mhoye: Look at Cordia project | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: yeah, we'll see how it goes | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: either way, it's a good lesson | 14:46 |
| francois__ | :) | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: hang on, let me just find a thesis paper i read the other day | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | somebody ported meego to -sparc- | 14:46 |
| mhoye | Stskeeps: That's extremely interesting, thanks. | 14:46 |
| mhoye | Haha, meego to _sparc_? | 14:46 |
| mhoye | Crazy. | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | mhoye: for more harmattan like interfaces, Nemo | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | francois__: http://t.co/JkBN2qj8 | 14:47 |
| francois__ | Stskeeps: thanks. whow! | 14:47 |
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| mhoye | Stskeeps: Thanks again. | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | mhoye: no problem | 14:48 |
| smoku | hi | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | mhoye: if you have any questions on Mer, i'd also be more than happy to answer :) | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | lo smoku | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | mhoye was looking at cordia / hildon for x86 | 14:48 |
| mhoye | Yeah, I've got a sentimental attachment to my n810, and an increasingly grim feeling about gnome and KDE. | 14:50 |
| mhoye | gnome-shell, I should say. | 14:52 |
| mhoye | smoku: is there a single metapackage or git pull command I can use to pull in everything I need? | 14:58 |
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| timoph | there's a ready made .ks for it | 15:00 |
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| timoph | https://github.com/Cordia/images | 15:01 |
| * alterego gets down and dirty with pulse audio :S | 15:02 | |
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| furikku | hello | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | hello furikku :) | 15:04 |
| furikku | I'm interested in cordia. | 15:06 |
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| smoku | mhoye: there are COBS projects that build the packages and ks files timoph pointed | 15:07 |
| smoku | mhoye: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/subprojects?project=Project%3ACordia | 15:08 |
| rferrazz | hi, i'm trying to install nemo mobile on virtualbox but i'm having problem with the virtual keyboard maybe | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | rferrazz: yes, there's a problem with compositor | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | rferrazz: got any atom devices? | 15:08 |
| rferrazz | no | 15:08 |
| rferrazz | may i can switch to terminal calling telinit 3 | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | ctrl-alt-f2 | 15:09 |
| smoku | mhoye: no armv6 packages though, as noone needed ones yet ;-) | 15:09 |
| mhoye | Ugh. Yum. | 15:11 |
| rferrazz | but it switches my host machine to /dev/ttys2 | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | rferrazz: there's something called a host key | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | use that instead of ctrl | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | in virtualbox | 15:12 |
| mhoye | smoku: I'm hoping to compile something to run as a regular (debian-based) window manager, not a live image. | 15:15 |
| alterego | Can someone tell me what the gconf values for "/apps/dialer/alsasource" and "/apps/dialer/alsasink" are? | 15:16 |
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| mhoye | I'll pull the repositories individually, and see if I can compile a script out of them. | 15:16 |
| mhoye | out of the process, rather. | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | alterego: gconftool-2 -R /apps/dialer ? | 15:17 |
| rferrazz | ok, thank you! i'm not a master of virtualbox | 15:19 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: needless to say, I can't do that at the moment ;) | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: OK | 15:19 |
| alterego | Has someone setup nemo to export it's filesystem when plugged in to USB? | 15:19 |
| alterego | Causing me much problems when using usbnet .. | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't do it properly | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | but usbmoded should ask you | 15:20 |
| alterego | It's denying me access to my home directory :P | 15:20 |
| alterego | When using g_ether | 15:20 |
| alterego | Anyway, if all goes to plan, which it probably wont, I should have implemented PA audio routing for phone calls ... | 15:22 |
| phdeswer | alterego, which hw? I can help you get that to work. | 15:23 |
| alterego | N950 | 15:24 |
| phdeswer | Hmm, that should work fine I think. Not getting asked if you want mass-storage? Or you would like it to be default? | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: we have seen that ohmd is utterly screwed on n950 btw | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | just do libresource and let policy framework do the rest | 15:25 |
| shanxS | hello everyone !! | 15:26 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: yeah | 15:26 |
| alterego | phdeswer: not being asked, don't want mass storage, just want g_ether, but when plugged in it seems to screw /home/nemo | 15:26 |
| shanxS | finally I have my linux laptop and I've chroot-ed to Mer Platform sdk | 15:27 |
| shanxS | I was wondering what to do next.. some thing took me to -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#To_create_a_new_package | 15:27 |
| shanxS | I have created an OBS account | 15:27 |
| shanxS | but links on this page looks broken | 15:27 |
| shanxS | can someone please guide me... | 15:28 |
| phdeswer | alterego, g_ether messes with the home dir? | 15:28 |
| smoku | mhoye: so take a look at https://launchpad.net/cordia - it's cordia hd packaged for ubuntu | 15:28 |
| alterego | phdeswer: I'm doing a clean flash now, I'll see if I've not just bugged something myself and get back to you on that ;) | 15:29 |
| phdeswer | alterego, ok :) Would love to know of any problems. So I can fix them :p | 15:29 |
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| shanxS | perhaps no one is interested in helping a poor n00b :( | 15:30 |
| phdeswer | shanxS, which link is broken? | 15:32 |
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| shanxS | this link on Mer/Build/Application Building page -> https://build.opensuse.org/project/list_my | 15:33 |
| shanxS | under the title 'To create a new package' | 15:33 |
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| mhoye | smoku... gah. Missed him. | 15:36 |
| mhoye | When he gets back, somebody tell him that's exactly what I'm looking for and thanks very much. | 15:37 |
| phdeswer | shanxS, ah ok. Do not worry about that. Just use the home project link from the web interface | 15:37 |
| phdeswer | Probably only works when you're actually logged in on the obs | 15:37 |
| shanxS | phdeswer, thanks for replying.. I am trying that :) | 15:38 |
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| alterego | audio works! | 15:43 |
| alterego | first friggin time! | 15:43 |
| alterego | omfg | 15:43 |
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| lbt | alterego: yay | 15:53 |
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| alterego | Now I can go back to GUI | 16:05 |
| alterego | And hopefully have something that's as feature ful as current dialer soon. | 16:06 |
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| shanxS | alterego, sounds really cool... I am really interested in sound related stuff.. hope I'll join you soon.. once I get feel of things in around here | 16:15 |
| alterego | :) | 16:16 |
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| * Stskeeps is happy it's weekend | 16:21 | |
| Stskeeps | hopefully not as busy last last one | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | as | 16:21 |
| iekku | :D | 16:21 |
| iekku | hopefully not | 16:22 |
| Paimen | mmm weekend and start of vacation | 16:22 |
| iekku | Paimen, lucky one | 16:22 |
| iekku | 2 weeks to go and 2 weeks off from work... | 16:22 |
| Paimen | altought wife is threating about cleaning up house | 16:23 |
| Paimen | well just 2 weeks off, kept 3 weeks earlier, but used them to house renovations | 16:23 |
| iekku | that 2 weeks are my only vacation this year | 16:25 |
| Paimen | poor you | 16:26 |
| Paimen | I had 5 weeks, one week winter vacation :D | 16:27 |
| iekku | last year had 5 | 16:29 |
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| Paimen | mmm whiskey | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | i could go for some martini tonight | 16:37 |
| iekku | :) | 16:38 |
| * timoph is enjoying a cold can of battery stripped | 16:38 | |
| mikhas | go for vodka martinis, for the extra kick | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | i've never been a fan of vodka martinis for some reason | 16:38 |
| Paimen | one problem of living in countryside is that it is kind of hard to leave to have drink at city | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | after a fateful trip to holland when i was 18, i've not been able to drink raw vodka since.. | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:39 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, next time you are in Amsterdam go visit the house of bols | 16:39 |
| mikhas | they have amazing cocktails there | 16:40 |
| * Stskeeps makes a note of that | 16:40 | |
| Paimen | luckily I have always at least 3 different single malts in cabinet | 16:40 |
| mikhas | holland house classic for example, I wasnt able to get it outside of Amsterdam | 16:40 |
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| iekku | i usually drink beer if anything alcoholic | 16:42 |
| iekku | alcoholical... | 16:42 |
| mikhas | nothing wrong with that | 16:42 |
| iekku | ooh, soon @ valkeakoski | 16:43 |
| iekku | \o/ | 16:43 |
| Paimen | for me it is whiskey at friday | 16:43 |
| Paimen | and beer on saturday after sauna | 16:44 |
| mikhas | why *after*? | 16:44 |
| Paimen | well I'm not used to drink beer during | 16:44 |
| Paimen | it just gets warm | 16:44 |
| iekku | or before? | 16:44 |
| iekku | :P | 16:44 |
| mikhas | gets warm, lol | 16:44 |
| Paimen | well I like it after :D | 16:44 |
| mikhas | you dont drink fast enough | 16:45 |
| Paimen | might be | 16:45 |
| iekku | :D | 16:45 |
| Paimen | I drink it to enjoyment not to get drunk | 16:45 |
| mikhas | well yes, sure | 16:45 |
| Paimen | :P | 16:46 |
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| Paimen | had my share of drunkness when I were 6 months in Sweden and shared house with 4 other finns | 16:46 |
| iekku | hahaha | 16:46 |
| Paimen | work all week and lot of drinking on weekends | 16:47 |
| * iekku doesn't even want to imagine that | 16:47 | |
| Paimen | well we had blast | 16:47 |
| iekku | maybe 4 finn students might be worse | 16:47 |
| w00t | work *while* drinking a lot | 16:47 |
| w00t | no need to limit yourself | 16:47 |
| Paimen | when we entered to local bar, bartender just counted how many of us came that night and there were that meny beers waiting | 16:48 |
| iekku | "you don't need to be drunken while working, but it helps" ? | 16:48 |
| w00t | iekku: ++ | 16:48 |
| Paimen | and also he played some teräsbetoni | 16:48 |
| iekku | hrrrr | 16:49 |
| Paimen | s/meny/many | 16:49 |
| iekku | i think it's magic word for me to close computer | 16:49 |
| iekku | "teräsbetoni" | 16:49 |
| iekku | have a nice evening! | 16:49 |
| Paimen | you too | 16:50 |
| iekku | home -> | 16:50 |
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| w00t | note to self, when trying out a patch, it really, really helps to add it to .yaml | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it does | 16:55 |
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| shanxS | good people, I am stuck again, I've created package on OBS, uploaded files using "osc commit".. but I cant see build log | 16:56 |
| shanxS | repository that I am using is: MerExtrasDevel_MerDevel_Ubuntu_9.04 armv5el | 16:56 |
| shanxS | and I am following instructions from http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#Monitoring the Build | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | shanxS: i think you may be using ancient instructions | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | shanxS: we aren't using build.opensuse.org | 16:57 |
| shanxS | ooohhhh... | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.merproject.org is the mer resource | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | or well | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | "new mer' | 16:57 |
| shanxS | Stskeeps, I've chrooted into sdk.. what should I do next.. ? | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | shanxS: well, what would you like to do | 16:59 |
| shanxS | where can I find bug list..? wiki says here <- https://bugs.merproject.org/ | 17:00 |
| shanxS | but I cant find a list | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&order=Importance&bug_severity=task&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken&emailtype1=substring is a task list | 17:00 |
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| shanxS | cool | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to look into any of them | 17:01 |
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| Stskeeps | however, start by getting a meego.com account, and prod lbt, phaeron or X-fade to activate it for https://build.pub.meego.com | 17:01 |
| shanxS | sure | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | and as you go along, no question is too stupid for here, as long as you do your homework | 17:02 |
| shanxS | :) | 17:02 |
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| lbt | shanxS: do that soon, I'm going out later :) | 17:07 |
| shanxS | lbt, done | 17:07 |
| shanxS | user name: shanxs | 17:07 |
| shanxS | please activat it | 17:07 |
| lbt | waiting for a sync | 17:07 |
| lbt | 4 mins | 17:09 |
| shanxS | sure | 17:09 |
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| lbt | shanxS: done - have fun | 17:14 |
| shanxS | lbt, thsnks a lot :) | 17:15 |
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| chouchoune | Stskeeps: lbt : concerning the discussion yesterday evening on perl modules, I checked that each new module as dependency of libwww-perl was previously a lib provided by libwww-perl that was exploded into many new | 17:33 |
| chouchoune | I started packaging it to see the difference once installed : I'll put it on COBS this weekend for you to see if it should be included | 17:34 |
| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: lbt : http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS askes me to run "osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com addrepos MYPROJECT TARGETPROJECT" ; what exaclty is the targetproject here? | 17:35 |
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| w00t | note to self: when making patches, it really helps to base them on the right upstream branch | 17:39 |
| chouchoune | shrikrishna: the "upstream" project from COBS I guess | 17:40 |
| shrikrishna | chouchoune: then MYPROJECT is? | 17:40 |
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| shrikrishna | ohh | 17:40 |
| chouchoune | home:shrikrishna:myproject | 17:41 |
| shrikrishna | yeah, understood :) | 17:41 |
| chouchoune | not 100% sure btw ;) | 17:41 |
| chouchoune | good | 17:41 |
| shrikrishna | will give it a shot =) | 17:41 |
| chouchoune | must leave | 17:42 |
| chouchoune | good evening | 17:42 |
| shrikrishna | thanks :) | 17:42 |
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| shrikrishna | goodbye :) | 17:42 |
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| alterego | Bloody dbus | 17:45 |
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| francois__ | I tried to build sb2-tools-armv7l but it did not run the baselibs script :( | 18:00 |
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| francois__ | how does it get triggered? | 18:00 |
| francois__ | some rpmbuild macro files I somehow missed | 18:00 |
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| Stskeeps | build how exactly? | 18:02 |
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| francois__ | I can see from *your* logs: ... creating baselibs | 18:02 |
| francois__ | oh | 18:03 |
| francois__ | well from my debian machine and the shipped osc client with your patch for sb2 support | 18:03 |
| francois__ | osc/build | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok, check osc build --help | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | there is smth about baselibs | 18:04 |
| francois__ | oh yes indead there is!!! | 18:04 |
| francois__ | indeed | 18:05 |
| francois__ | I read the thesis about the port of MeeGo on SPARC. I'll have to think about it to get all the pieces together :) | 18:06 |
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| francois__ | Stskeeps: anyway thanks for your help! Have a nice we! | 18:12 |
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| shrikrishna | how to use this command? "osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com addrepos MYPROJECT TARGETPROJECT"? specifically, what should MYPROJECT and TARGETPROJECT be here? | 18:37 |
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| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: ^^ | 18:40 |
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| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: to be honest, i'm not actually sure | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | addrepos --help ? | 18:45 |
| shrikrishna | oh... i saw it, but unfortunately, wasnt able to make much out of it... there were no examples... :( | 18:46 |
| * Stskeeps reads manual too | 18:47 | |
| shrikrishna | tried a few possibilities from the help... but wasnt succesful | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: where did you find that in documentation? | 18:48 |
| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: osc help addrepos | 18:48 |
| shrikrishna | oh.. the osc command? | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | no, the addrepos thing | 18:49 |
| shrikrishna | in http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS in section "Adding repositories" | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | my SDK doesn't have that | 18:49 |
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| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: ok, please stick to documentation on wiki.merproject.org .. | 18:52 |
| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: well, will try more stuff and let you know | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | if you see gaps, please file bugs as soon as possible and note them here | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | fresh blood is good for identifying issues | 18:54 |
| shrikrishna | okay... will do :) | 18:55 |
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| alterego | "mistake to withdraw from EPEAT and instead will work within the system to update the standard" - Apple | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | embrace and extend? | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:58 |
| alterego | So instead of adhere, they plan on changing EPEAT policy? | 18:58 |
| alterego | w.t.f. | 18:58 |
| alterego | "Apple makes the most environmentally responsible products in our industry" .. | 18:59 |
| alterego | Yeah, right .. | 18:59 |
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| kyyberi | Didn't know how to read easily Mer meeting minutes and logs. So to refesh skills in ruby and rails I started to draft simple Rails app. Here's some very early stage snapshots (butt ugly and so forth) http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=8c02f6f http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=ee29d31 | 19:18 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 19:20 | |
| Stskeeps | oh that's quite useful | 19:20 |
| kyyberi | some of the data are false, for example the start time and end time retrieval is still buggy | 19:20 |
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| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: which are the repositories to be added to the project initially? | 19:25 |
| kyyberi | thinking about adding some other stuff there as well besides info about meetings. For example the list of modules in core and such...perhaps..and some info about each package if that can be accessed somehow | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: look in topic | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | kyyberi: how do you feel about visualization? | 19:25 |
| kyyberi | Stskeeps: not too familiar with the tools, concepts I know :) | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | kyyberi: long story short we have a challenge in dependency navigation | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | kyyberi: we can generate stuff like @/Architecture group/libacl:/Another architecture group/bash:feature | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | which is an edge | 19:28 |
| kyyberi | so some kind of "map" to see dependencies could be useful? | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes, a way to navigate around | 19:28 |
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| kyyberi | :nod: | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | look at wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | that's from wiki.meego.com/AgileBrowser | 19:28 |
| kyyberi | oh, I remember those :) I stumbled upon those the other day | 19:29 |
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| Stskeeps | though i'm not sure if a qml viewer would be better.. | 19:30 |
| kyyberi | some overlapping and such, otherwise hmmm....ok-ish | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | but hmm | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:30 |
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| Stskeeps | those diagrams are meant to be simple | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | i have much worse | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:30 |
| kyyberi | :) | 19:30 |
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| kyyberi | Stskeeps: would that kind of stuff be 'out there in space' or... http://thejit.org/static/v20/Jit/Examples/Spacetree/example1.html | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | kyyberi: let me find a nightmare scenario.. | 19:33 |
| * kyyberi gets some candy | 19:34 | |
| * kyyberi and popcorn | 19:34 | |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-core9.png | 19:35 |
| kyyberi | Wow! | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | are you understanding now why we call our work distribution jenga? | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:38 |
| kyyberi | yeah :) | 19:38 |
| kyyberi | and that's Mer. What kind of that would have been on MeeGo | 19:39 |
| kyyberi | *kind of mess | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | in practice, even meego was nicely layered | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | there's a lot i like from there | 19:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: so i'm here too =) | 19:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i have small proposal that would be nice for me and begginers. it's little bit cloudy, but i'll try to explaine | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 19:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i personally and i think more people especially students/beginers and other less knowledge people, would like to jump in and help with mer/become part of it/learn and contribute at the same time | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 19:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | is there way to make some missions or something like Summer Code as google does | 19:43 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like it to be more dynamic, long story short, the idea is that somebody can join mer by: downloading platform sdk, making a mer account on bugzilla, find a bug or a task and start working | 19:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | for example i'm advances user in linux, but not admin or guru. i know C and C++ on the basic levels. so i never can catch up with devs. | 19:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i would like to see some missions/tasks for newbies like me | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | there's low priority work like "change this line of a .spec file" too | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | because it's a wrong url, for example | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | look at topic, "To see what you can help with" | 19:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | thanx | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | we intentionally have a very good atmosphere here of helping, if people understand they need to do their own homework (read what we point them to), or even help document what they learn, they're free to ask all the stupid questions they want | 19:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | but do you think "change url" or similiar things would help me or others to get exp level up to move at some point to more serious things? | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | it does | 19:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | you learn basic contribution methods and you can move up and learn more about packaging | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | you learn about git, too | 19:46 |
| kyyberi | ZogG_laptop: not excatly 'summer of code' but still something. Local people can organize developer meetups like we are now planning. See this thread (with responses) http://lists.devaamo.fi/pipermail/devaamo-general/2012q3/000122.html | 19:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok thanks | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: the logic here is that if some newcomers take some of the low priority work, or smaller tasks, it leaves more time for those more skilled to work on something | 19:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | good | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | for example, fixing URLs means it's easier to upgrade packages | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | or check for security holes | 19:49 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i hope i'll get more free time to get more and more involved. btw i have few more ideas for mer, but i don't think it would be accepted by others, so i want to try something after i ger rasbperry pi to put mer on it and experiment =) | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: sure, just state your ideas :) | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | worst case is we say no | 19:51 |
| kyyberi | :) | 19:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i'll make account and check the things i can help with now and i'll do more test work as i get mer on something for sure. always been reporting and suggesting on any platform/app i use myself | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 19:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i thought of how ChromeOS uses gentoo's portage for package maintaning and it's binaries, i like that idea, need to check it and try more before though | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: mer's way isn't half bad either | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | though it does have some problems | 19:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | i just find portage the best thing i used/tried | 19:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | and as mer is a core and should be as flexibale as possible for any adaptation, it can be good idea to try. thats why i want to try it, so instead of just talks there would be something to compare to... | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: but i still would need to poke you and people around here to get it done. | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 20:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | i was planing for a while to get old PC to play with LFS to understand Linux more. As it's hard for me to learn anything from reading and theory. i need to practice to sum up and fully understand things =\ | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | LFS is a good way to learn | 20:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeah, the problem is lack of time and personal stuff lately, but i need to get there. Gentoo was first distro i had and the main i use everyday, i think all i know is thanks to it | 20:06 |
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| ZogG_laptop | maybe stage 1 may help before LFS even | 20:07 |
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| Estel_ | ZogG_laptop, I wish You much luck on learning how to develop for at least 2 reasons | 20:11 |
| Estel_ | 1. Obvious contributions | 20:11 |
| Estel_ | 2. You won't have time for silly arguinhg on TMO =) | 20:11 |
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| Stskeeps | hello george_ :) | 20:16 |
| george_ | hi | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | george_: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 20:16 |
| george_ | just navigating about qt/qml stuff | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | sure :) if you have any questions on Mer, or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) | 20:17 |
| george_ | thx | 20:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | Estel_: you don't really bring it here. the reasons are different. and i still do not agree with you. Sorry for personal but i decided officially for me to call you Dwight (the one from Office US) and i do not want futher to argue with you or pollutw any channels here =) | 20:23 |
| Stskeeps | politics out of here, please | 20:24 |
| * Stskeeps gets out the water hose | 20:24 | |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: btw is mer/jolla in contact with other ex-Nokians startups | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: dunno | 20:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | afaik the head of Meego/harmattan is in other company, was it called Kyvyttalents or something like that? | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | well, as a start, he wasn't head of meego/harmattan | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | and kyvyy is the ulm people | 20:25 |
| Estel_ | no offense took, as I don't know american politics (and glad to) ;P | 20:26 |
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| Stskeeps | which is a bit like a bridge programme/gettogether for soon to be ex-employees to find new jobs, i think | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | hey phaeron | 20:26 |
| Estel_ | Stskeeps, Jolla should pay You as for being press conbtact :) | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | Estel_: oh dear god no | 20:26 |
| Estel_ | contact* | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | we have better people than that | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | than me | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | you should see Jussi in interviews, he's doing really well | 20:27 |
| Estel_ | hehe, but everyone is asking You about things You can't know yet, anyway | 20:27 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: hey | 20:27 |
| Estel_ | Probably, I just don't understand single word. So I rely on translations, better or worse ones | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: finally weekend | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | Estel_: intomobile has a good voice interview | 20:27 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: yeah finally some quiet time to work :D | 20:28 |
| Estel_ | will check | 20:28 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Estel_: you can go to #jollamobile, and i think it's not about knowing it's about the parts he can't talk about | 20:31 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: btw about the git repo you said to clone, what is in there? i'm thinking for getting harmattan repos | 20:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: gitweb.merproject.org | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | hello am_ :) | 20:33 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: yes, but i'm talking about that specific tools i cloned. no readme there | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: oh that one | 20:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeeeeees...? | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: er.. let us take that at one point where i'm not falling asleep on my keyboard | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: got a build.pub.meego.com account? | 20:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: even a repo =) | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: ok, that helps.. | 20:37 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i see the makefile is actually rsync | 20:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | so i need to change few parts to make it clone the repos i need and i may need account for it, right? | 20:38 |
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| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: tools/dumpbuild | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: that's what you need to use | 20:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: it's basically wget -N -c -r -nd -nH $API/build/$OBSPROJECT/$REPONAME/$scheduler/_repository?view=cache where i can just correct url | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: nah, you need to extract a cpio in practice | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | have fun | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | use it against your own repo first | 20:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | what cpio stands for? | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | well, google for that :P | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | cpio archive | 20:44 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i have it | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | =) | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: so those 3 wget commands get the info needed for cpio to make backups, do i understand right? | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | basically you'll get the .deb or .rpm files inside a cpio | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | from the obs | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | dumping the binary repositor | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | y | 20:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i need to run all 3 commands in dumptool right to get names, cache and ?solvstate? | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, good time to find out :) you dont need cache or solvstate | 20:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | than i need to use cpio to get all debs from all data i got | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | names is what matters, and then fetch the files that way | 20:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: with python $ORIG/tools/printbinaries.py | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | i gtg to sleep though | 20:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | night | 20:52 |
| kyyberi | night | 20:52 |
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| shanxS | I am trying to follow this page <- https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Branch the package to work on it | 21:16 |
| shanxS | when I try to add a repo, I keep getting this error <- BuildService API error: unknown_project (404), Core_i486 | 21:17 |
| shanxS | I tried searching for this project on Web interface of OBS .. but to no avail.. | 21:17 |
| shanxS | what am I doing wrong ? | 21:17 |
| shanxS | anyone here ?? | 21:19 |
| phaeron | shanxS: the project name seems wrong | 21:21 |
| shanxS | so what should I try ? | 21:21 |
| phaeron | shanxS: hmm no , someone did create that project | 21:22 |
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| shanxS | that means I am missing something, right ? | 21:22 |
| phaeron | yeah one second , I am trying to see what is the correct project name | 21:23 |
| shanxS | alrighty | 21:24 |
| phaeron | which step are you getting an error with ? | 21:27 |
| shanxS | when we add repo in xml file, after this command <- osc meta prj home:YOURNAME:branches:Mer.MDS:Core:i486 -e | 21:28 |
| phaeron | if you used this exact line like in the example <path repository="Core_i486" project="Mer.MDS:Core:i486"/> then the project name is correct | 21:28 |
| phaeron | the error your report suggests you switched repository and project contents | 21:29 |
| phaeron | can you check ? | 21:29 |
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| shanxS | yup 1 moment | 21:30 |
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| shanxS | yeah I wrote exact same line, here is the xml file <- http://pastebin.com/3JQKij3n | 21:31 |
| shanxS | phaeron, so I have switched repo and project cintents... how do I undo that ? | 21:32 |
| phaeron | so when you try to save that xml it complains ? | 21:32 |
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| shanxS | yup, it says -> http://pastebin.com/GHbdTRkS | 21:33 |
| phaeron | but I suspect you haven't done osc branch Mer.MDS:Core:i486 systemd | 21:34 |
| phaeron | or some other package | 21:34 |
| shanxS | I tried doing that, but it gives following error -> http://pastebin.com/KUJ2YdsP | 21:35 |
| phaeron | ok then I suspect it is talking to the wrong OBS | 21:36 |
| phaeron | :D | 21:36 |
| shanxS | wrong OBS ? | 21:36 |
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| shanxS | isnt there just one OBS, The SUSE OBS ? | 21:36 |
| phaeron | no depending on the contents of $HOME/.oscrc you can have multiple obses to talk to. there is suse obs , meego obs , meego community obs , mer obs | 21:37 |
| phaeron | etc .. | 21:37 |
| shanxS | ahh... | 21:37 |
| phaeron | the one you should be trying to talk to is meego community obs | 21:37 |
| shanxS | how do I set it ? I remember some where in docs it said something abt that... | 21:39 |
| shanxS | but I kinda overlooked it.. | 21:39 |
| phaeron | shanxS: osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com ls | 21:39 |
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| phaeron | if it is was never setup it will ask you for username and password and save them | 21:39 |
| * shanxS trying that one | 21:40 | |
| phaeron | you then use the same osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com before any command you do | 21:40 |
| phaeron | you can open $HOME/.oscrc and set an alias in the section of that apiurl so you can do a shorter osc -A <alias> instead | 21:40 |
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| shanxS | YAY.. it worked \m/ | 21:42 |
| shanxS | phaeron: Thanks a ;lot :D | 21:42 |
| phaeron | shanxS: I guess that part should be at the top of the contribution guide | 21:43 |
| shanxS | I agree with you :) | 21:44 |
| phaeron | adding it | 21:45 |
| shanxS | awesome | 21:45 |
| phaeron | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Configure_osc | 21:51 |
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| shanxS | looks a lot better :) | 21:54 |
| shanxS | one more thing can I have multiople chroots with same sdk ? | 21:54 |
| shanxS | *multiple | 21:54 |
| phaeron | shanxS: yes , in oscrc you can add some variables to the buildroot config so that it is different per project | 21:55 |
| shanxS | cool | 21:56 |
| phaeron | shanxS: search for build-root in the config file and read the comments around it | 21:56 |
| shanxS | I'll try that on a later date | 21:56 |
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| shanxS | sure | 21:56 |
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| shanxS | phaeron, thanks for help, good night :) | 22:04 |
| phaeron | good night | 22:05 |
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