Wednesday, 2012-07-11

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iekkumorning03:39
sonachiekku: morning :)03:40
iekkuhmm, raining and i need to go to buss soon03:43
iekku2km to buss stop :/03:43
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PaimenMorning all03:51
iekkumorning Paimen03:52
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kyyberiaway05:04
kyyberihups05:04
kyyberimorning05:04
Stskeepsmorn05:05
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sonachStskeeps: morning! http://pastie.org/4235743,05:26
sonachStskeeps: failed to make under osc chroot05:26
Stskeepssonach: i need some context on that :)05:26
Stskeepswhat did you do in steps before that05:26
sonachStskeeps: (1) enter mer sb2-sdk; (2) osc build --no-verify --download-api-only standard armv7el (3) osc chroot (4) cd to rpmbuild/BUILD/matchbox (5) make05:28
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Stskeepssonach: ok, you need an additional step after (3), sb2 -t oscbuild -m obs-rpm-build05:28
sonachStskeeps: it works, thank you! but it seems a little strange to have this additional step :P you know, there are a lot of steps to do 'make' under OBS :)05:31
Stskeepssonach: yes05:31
Stskeepslast step activates cross compilation05:31
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sonachok, got it:)05:32
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shrikrishnamorning Stskeeps :)05:59
Stskeepsmorn sonach06:01
Stskeepser, shrikrishna :)06:01
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timophmorning06:13
timophStskeeps: I'll take a look at the offline reports for tr-ui tomorrow (will be on a train for 5 hours)06:14
niqtmorning06:14
Stskeepscool06:14
timophgoing to ilosaarirock06:14
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sonachStskeeps: does N900 use EXA driver framework to accellerate Xorg?06:17
Stskeepsyes06:18
Stskeepsbut mostly gles06:18
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sonachStskeeps: One member of our team is now focusing on HW acceleration on hi3716m, we are considering to use EXA driver framework to accel Xorg, and think that N900's driver can help a lot,06:20
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Stskeepssonach: perhaps, it is using some pvr2d hw in the background06:20
sonachStskeeps: pvr2d is the 2D part of OMAP3630?06:21
Stskeepsyeah, of powervr sgx in there06:21
E-PGood morning06:21
Stskeepsgood morning E-P :)06:22
sonachStskeeps: What chip does OMAP3630 correspond to, OMAP3530 or 3730? I only have 3530 and 3730 at hand :)06:22
Stskeepssonach: doesn't matter, just pvr2d :)06:23
Stskeepsmaybe omapfb can do more06:23
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sonachStskeeps: where to download N900's EXA related drivers(I think there might be several packages for this)?06:24
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Stskeepssonach: xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx06:25
Stskeepsgo to search (button, not dsearch field) on build.pub.meego.com06:25
sonachStskeeps: and 'maybe omapfb can do more' means xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-omapfb??06:25
Stskeepsno, just the kernel driver for it06:25
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sonachso what do you mean by 'maybe omapfb can do more'?06:26
Stskeepsthat maybe the omap DSS chip can do more than pvr2d06:26
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sonachStskeeps: ok. I just want to download one EXA driver and do some research on it and then implement our own ...06:27
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Stskeepssonach: yes, then take xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx06:27
sonachStskeeps: ok :)06:28
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sonachStskeeps: I found that it is in your home project ! :P06:29
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sonachStskeeps: and can NEMO run on Beagleboard-XM development board?06:31
Stskeepssonach: well, xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx can't, but other solutions exist there06:32
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sonachStskeeps: so NEMO using other solution other than xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx?06:33
Stskeepsit uses it on n90006:33
Stskeepsbut n900 is special06:34
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sonachStskeeps: OK. Now my question is clearer: Can xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx run on Beagleboard-XM? Since I can test this on the dev-board and do some research,06:35
Stskeepsno, it can't06:36
sonachStskeeps: ... so how can i test 'xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx'?06:36
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sonachon what hardware can I test 'xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx' ?06:37
Stskeepsn900 itself - on beagleboard you'd probably use another org driver06:38
Stskeepslike omapfb or pvr06:38
sonachStskeeps: but omapfb or pvr is not EXA based, right?06:38
Stskeepssonach: they might be, but pvr driver on beagleboard xm isn't open source06:39
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Sage_is there problem with mer wiki as it is very slow very often?06:39
StskeepsSage_: we've noticed that, not sure why06:39
Stskeepssonach: i think omapfb might be somehow06:39
sonachStskeeps: omapfb is EXA-based, and can run on beagle-XM?06:40
Stskeepssonach: i need to check, but i think it might be06:41
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sonachStskeeps: you said that omapfb is kernel driver, so can not download it from pub.build.meego.com?06:43
Stskeepssonach: ok, so, omapfb (without xorg-x11-drv) in front, is a part of the linux kernel for OMAP/a chip06:43
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sonachStskeeps: ok. so I think I don't need to care about xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx any more??06:44
sonachhmmm, anyway xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx is EXA-based driver, though I can not test it ...06:44
Stskeepssonach: well, if you want to write a driver for hi3716m it's useful06:44
Stskeepsto see how it can be done06:44
sonachStskeeps: ok, so, I should look at xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx and omapfb, this two.06:45
Stskeepsyes06:45
Stskeepsxorg-x11-drv-omapfb06:45
sonachStskeeps: cool, thank you for your time:) we will do more research  :)06:46
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Sage_lbt: sdk doesn't support .mersdk.bashrc or similar files other the .mersdk.profile?06:52
Sage_ah, .mersdkrc06:52
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lbtmorning all07:04
lbtyep - nb ... if the docs need clarification then please mention it07:05
lbtsonach: o/07:05
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Stskeepslbt: had another fe stall, stop apache, killall -u wwwrun, start apache07:06
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Stskeepswill let you know of next stall07:06
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smokuI see that MER#412 is fixed.   Can I get the fix somehow to push my builds forward, or do I have to wait for next Mer release?07:08
Stskeepssmoku: i'm hoping to get a prerelease out soon(TM), the thing is that we're mucking around in doing better releasing atm07:08
Stskeepsand it's not helping our OBS frontend is stalling randomly07:09
smokuStskeeps: pre-release is what will eventually land in Mer:Core:Next on COBS?07:09
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Stskeepsyes07:10
smokuok. thx.07:10
lbtStskeeps: 99% sure this is simply Rails api service causing oom07:11
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lbtStskeeps: at least I know where to enable debugging (shoulda done that last night)07:13
Stskeepslbt: alright07:13
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lbtwhy doesn't konversation have eye-tracking so it knows I've glanced at it and seen the highlight?07:14
sonachlbt: morning! got your email and will feedback as soon as possilbe. I should check the content with my boss :P07:16
lbtof course07:16
lbtalso I realised we had not discussed Qt/QML07:16
lbtis Qt/QML important to you?07:16
w00tto all!07:17
w00t;-)07:18
lbt:)07:18
w00tlbt: how'd your demo the other day go btw... minimer kept on working i hope :)07:18
lbtit did, and the 'crash' is simply a limit in the animation code07:18
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sonachlbt: Yes. Qt/QML is important. Since we should support native apps which is developed by the carriers and middle-ware companies,07:18
lbtsonach: OK - and is QML better for you than the previous Qt Widget approach?07:19
sonachlbt: We have not compared QML vs Qt Widget for the moment.  you know, we use qtmediahub as our media center and it uses QML. that's all :P07:21
sonachbut generally speeking, QML is more convinent for UI design,07:21
lbtOK - getting a feel for "fair" things to say about some of the technology07:22
sonachand QML is good when we consider to change the SKIN of our UX,07:22
lbtyep07:22
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sonachanyway, I think we will recommend to use QML instead of Qt Wigdet,07:23
Stskeepsmakes more sense on a TV anyway07:23
lbtI guess you're on low power hardware so HTML5 is probably still not up to the level of native wrt performance07:23
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sonachlbt: you get the point! We once considering using Qt/Web/Java to develop home app, and finally, most people agree to use Native dev,07:25
sonachbut the hardware is not VERY LOW,07:26
sonachyou can consider hi3716m as a reference,07:26
lbtOK07:26
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lbtStskeeps: feel free to beat on the api for a bit07:31
lbtdebug is on07:31
lbtw00t: I progressed on shader just showing a pink clipping rectangle to a nice black wavy rectangle - so  I think I fixed the vector shader code ... now I need to do the fragment shader07:33
w00t,bef0rd07:33
w00t..07:33
w00tlbt: \o/07:33
w00t(I have no idea how that turned into ,bef0rd)07:34
lbts/float/highp float/07:34
lbtI don't know what a highp float is ...07:34
lbtbut it likes it07:34
* lbt is hacking by statistical probability of a syntax error based on nearby lines07:35
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StskeepsMagic number checking on storable file failed at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_retrieve.al) line 380, at BSUtil.pm line 53107:37
Stskeepshappens in scheduler07:37
lbtand another api dies07:37
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lbtbut only one storable error this morning and 6 api fails so far07:39
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lbtStskeeps: a lot of the api processes have not written anything into the logs07:42
Stskeepsinteresting07:42
Stskeepsi have to head downtown a while in ~30 minutes, for driving class07:43
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lbtStskeeps: I found you some inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuDN2bCIyus&feature=youtu.be07:47
lbtit helps when you recognise the roads....07:47
Stskeepslbt: that's like when you were driving!07:48
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lbtI try *g*07:49
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Stskeepshello Juhi24 :)07:58
Juhi24Hi all!08:01
lbto/08:02
StskeepsJuhi24: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ?08:02
* Sage_ ponders what happened to cobs 08:04
Sage_ah, now it responds08:04
Sage_always helps to complain ;)08:05
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Juhi24Stskeeps: I think the usual story: Bought N900 couple of years ago and that made me interested in a lot of mobile linux stuff.08:06
Juhi24and now Jolla08:06
StskeepsJuhi24: sure :] if you have any questions about Mer, feel free to ask at any time. unofficial jolla discussion is in #jollamobile, we develop Mer Core here - if you want to know how to contribute, you can ask about that too ;)08:07
Stskeepselse feel free to hang out08:07
Juhi24Yeh, thanks for the words of welcome :)08:07
Stskeepsno problem, it's important to help build community :)08:08
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Stskeepswelcome back ravirdv :)08:33
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ravirdvhi08:40
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anidelmorning09:21
Stskeepsmorn09:21
w00tmoin anidel09:21
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anidelcycled to work as usual this morning, only to find out I forgot the pants at home !09:22
Stskeepsyou went to work without pants?09:22
anidelno, I'm not in my underwear :) luckily I had a pair of shorts at hands (was supposed to play soccer in the company tournament :P)09:22
w00thehe, well, that's a new one09:22
anidel:)09:22
w00ti've walked out the door without shoes, though..09:22
w00tgot halfway down my pavement and went "hey, hold on, why do I feel the stone under my feet"09:23
anidelahaha well I was about to jump on the bike once w/o shoes as well, but I had the flip flops on09:23
anidelw00t!09:23
anidel:)09:23
anidelI'm not calling you, it's an expression...09:23
* w00t is used to it09:23
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fralsw00t: didnt think anyone use shoes in your neck of the woods... ;)09:25
Stskeepshey phony09:25
w00tfrals: that was when I was still living in civilisation09:26
fralsah09:26
frals:D09:26
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alteregoYou know, last night I wanted to open a URL on my phone I was looking at on my desktop. So I copy and pasted the URL into this site: http://qrcode.kaywa.com/09:28
* alterego should make a firefox plugin or something09:29
phonyStskeeps: is a bot?09:30
alteregoYou're not the first to think that.09:30
Sage_phony: ;)09:30
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w00ta code robot, maybe09:30
Paimenvery sophisticated bot he is :P09:30
anidelalterego: ask Nokia Drop to release their protocol :p09:31
alteregoanidel: what's Nokia drop? Also, mine works on every smart phone OS :P09:32
alteregoIs it like drop box? :)09:32
anidelit's a plugin for FF (I think) that does exactly that...drops a URL fro the desktop straight to your Nokia phone.09:33
anidelI think there's a client for Symbian09:33
anidelit's in Beta09:33
anidelLabs09:33
anidelhttp://betalabs.nokia.com/trials/nokia-drop09:33
anidelit does a few more things, but the URL one is the one I used when I had the N8 for a bit09:34
anidelwould be nice to ask the team to open up their protocol so one can write clients for N9 ;) it's a neat idea. Or we can copy the idea ourselves..09:35
anidelourselves meaning community09:35
alteregoSure, I'd probably do it with a QR Code though.09:36
alteregoLiterally <1 minute for me to do that :P09:37
Stskeepsphony: nop, just friendly :) so what brings you here to #mer?09:37
anidelyou said 'do that', haven't you? :)09:37
alteregoanidel: yes, I did it last night. :P09:37
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anidelstill that involves opening the QR code app...fast on the Lumia not so on N9 :) :p09:39
anidelanyway, off to a meeting, then complete setting up my Mer SDK09:40
anidelttyl09:40
phonyStskeeps: hi then, just recently heard about JollaMobile and reincarnation of MeeGo, decided to follow the process09:40
FryeSame for me really. Can't wait to get my hands on the new device.09:41
lbtStskeeps: fe is looking stable atm09:42
FryeSo while I wait I'll be setting up mer to my N90009:42
FryeGoing to try it with class 4 card, but I think I really need to get a faster one in the end.09:42
FryeJust happen to have bunch of class 4's lying around09:43
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Stskeepsphony: sure :) if you have any questions about Mer, or on how to contribute, feel free to ask anytime :) else feel free to hang out09:43
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lbtphaeron1: may I delete the prjcopy branch and move copyprj to point at it ...10:14
phaeron1I already deleted it long time ago , do a fetch -p10:15
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* lbt goes to change all scripts that mention copyprj to prjcopy....10:16
lbtI'm watching fe and meanwhile cleaning patch and preparing an OBS -mer2 release10:17
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phaeron1scripts ?10:19
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ericchello10:45
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lbthi ericc10:49
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msailyalterego: Tried ofono 0.52 using dbus-send and calls were working using object path to n9500. First we had path isimodem0 which didn't work. Could you please check if dialer is using n9500?10:50
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anidelback via Irssi, let's see10:51
ericcJussi Hurmola, the CEO of JollaMobile (audio and text available)  :)10:51
Sage_msaily: Dialer should be dynamically query the object paths already as it works on more than one platform.10:52
Sage_just a sidenote.10:52
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lbtericc: jolla stuff is best discussed in #jollamobile :)10:53
msailySage: ok.10:53
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alteregomsaily: dialer auto-uses first available modem, so it's not got that hard coded.10:53
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alteregomsaily: if you want to debug dialer, I'd recommend removing it from xdg, and starting it manually from console to get debug output.10:54
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alteregoWhat's the environment variable you set to get stdout from meego apps?11:00
alteregoM_DEBUG_LEVEL or something like that?11:00
lbtYAY .... fixed the shader problems on N900 :)11:00
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lbtw00t: ^^11:01
w00tlbt: that sounds good :P11:02
lbthttp://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/qml-shadereffectsource.html#mipmap-prop11:02
anidelsound goods indeed11:02
lbt"Note: Some OpenGL ES 2 implementations do not support mipmapping of non-power-of-two textures."11:02
lbtanidel: it was more an issue with the shader fragments being non-portable11:03
w00tlbt: what are you doing with shaders, ooi?11:05
lbthave an N900?11:06
lbtI'll let you follow some instructions and see for yourself.... I don't believe in youtube :)11:07
w00tlbt: not sure (and not easily accessible)11:07
w00tI have two, one is dead, the other is probably out of battery11:07
lbtmmm OK11:07
anidellbt: when running minimal and having the USB attached, will the N900 charge?11:07
lbt"If you have more of your cool code on you-tube than docs showing others how to build on it - you're doing it wrong :)"11:08
lbtanidel: I'll tell you in 8hrs11:08
anidel:p11:08
lbtI think so - it's in the kernel/HW11:08
anidelok so just now lightining up the led11:08
lbtI *think* the user-mode code is the monitor only11:08
lbtyeah - be careful if you plug in usb when it's dead; it boots but with no backlight11:09
FryeHmm, should the Nemo image have working wlan on N900?11:09
lbtso it seems dead but if you hold it up to the light you can make out text11:09
Frye20120614.111:09
lbtFrye: yes11:10
lbtthere's a 201207 image11:10
FryeAll I get when going to the wlan settings is a red hello world11:10
lbtFrye: known bug11:10
Fryenemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-07-02.111:10
lbtexit settings and re-enter11:10
Fryeok11:11
lbtit only works once11:11
lbthttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20311:11
lbtso doing a zypper ref;zypper up will fix it11:11
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FryeFell in love with my N900 again11:12
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FryeLooks nice11:12
alteregoWho knows anything about libresource?11:16
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* iekku looks at #nemomobile, silent there :(11:18
Sage_well, most of that talk is here now as well :P11:19
iekku:nod:11:25
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Sage_lbt: spectacle 0.25 coming to sdk?11:54
lbtyes11:54
lbtunlikely to be this week - maybe11:55
lbtin fact no, not even maybe11:55
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lbtgitk --all11:57
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chouchounehttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/spectacle.git;a=summary11:59
chouchouneis it normal ?11:59
chouchounemmmhhh, looks like it is ... all mer-tools repo are similar12:00
chouchounehi all, btw12:00
Sage_chouchoune: hi. yes some of those haven't been populated yet12:00
Sage_mainly in the tools area12:00
Sage_lbt: oh. I thought it was in already in sdk --next :/12:00
lbt.24 I think12:01
lbtnot 100% sure ... no pkg DB solution :/12:01
lbtchouchoune: yeah - I'm planning on doing tools git differently12:01
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chouchounelbt: ok, was just looking at this because I read the discussion just before : not really looking at the code right now anyway ;)12:03
lbtok12:03
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alteregoSo, not two phones this year :) So much easier undestanding information when you don't have to rely on peoples' "googles" poor translations.12:11
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anidelHopefully based on Mer as well? I doubt so though :) https://twitter.com/3v1n0/status/22281783488192102412:12
alteregoProbably ubuntu mobile by the looks of his profile.12:15
anidelyeah I know he works for Canonical.12:16
anidelit was just an utopic dream :012:16
chouchouneCubuntu mobile based on mer ? ;)12:16
chouchouneI think we can sell it to engadget12:16
chouchouneor slashdot12:17
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ZogG_laptopis mer rpm based?12:22
alteregoYes,12:23
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alteregoiekku: thanks for the reply to my email ;)12:28
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iekkusorry it took so long12:28
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astro72hi again, can anyone help me as I've just bought me a new SanDisk 4Gb class 6 microsd & i'm using latest image with N900 --> after nemo boot screen display just shows black (well the backlight's on but nothin' else).12:37
astro72I've done everything as instructed in http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N900 (well i decompressed that image file with 7zip but that's all that's different).12:37
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alteregoastro72: have you waited an unspecified amount of time for first boot?12:42
alteregoCan take a while.12:42
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alteregoIf it's for a _very_ long time, try tapping the power button a couple of times and/or the screen.12:42
astro72how much is very long time? 5 mins?12:43
alteregoPotentially yes.12:43
alterego5 minutes sounds about right12:43
Stskeepsastro72: 5 mins should be enough.. walk me through the steps you're doing12:43
anidelsorry, where do I find IRC chat logs?12:43
anidelof Mer of course12:43
alteregoIf you're seeing the nemo bootscreen, then that's positive.12:43
alteregoanidel: in the title12:43
dm8tbrif the card is slow it could take longer12:43
alteregoClass 6 is reasonible, I run on C412:44
astro72i've seen the bootscreen but after that it goes black and remains so for minutes12:44
astro72but if 5 mins< is ok i'll wait :)12:44
Stskeepsanidel: topic "this chanel is logged"12:44
alteregoastro72: first boot will take longer than consecutive boots.12:46
anidelok found it, irssi wasn't wrapping topic on top12:46
ZogG_laptop alterego thanks12:46
astro72alterego: thanks12:46
ZogG_laptopalterego, is there any mer-based distros that are not rpm?12:47
Stskeepsno, mer is rpm, simple as that12:47
alteregoZogG_laptop: no, mer is rpm, so anything based on mer is rpm too.12:47
alteregoFeel free to start a med project though :P12:47
alteregoNot that I'm saying the 'r' in mer stands for rpm ;)12:47
ZogG_laptopi do not want deb12:48
alteregoOr maybe der would be better,12:48
Stskeepsmeer-der12:48
dm8tbr'meego deconstructed' ... ;)12:48
alteregolol12:48
ZogG_laptopi'm interested how chromeOS took portage and uses it for binaries based distro =)12:48
alteregomer deconstructed more like :P12:48
dm8tbrStskeeps: well after merDE didn't happen...12:48
ZogG_laptopmerde sounds lke french =)12:49
dm8tbrZogG_laptop: yes, we had meego developer edition, but somehow renamed to 'community edition' later on and then to 'nemo'12:49
* dm8tbr ran the poll for the naming of the latter one12:50
alteregoStill remembers the funny discussions we had about what to name MeeGo CE12:50
dm8tbryes 'merde' was also among the proposals. if you're curious, the data is still out there12:50
alteregoI think CE was my idea too :P12:50
Stskeepslbt: fe looks stalled12:52
anidelvdso is worth disabling before mic creating?12:52
alteregoNot sure what Nemo was supposed to mean.12:52
alteregoNe-Mobile?12:52
alteregon.e. mobile?12:52
anidelNemo = no name ? possibly, buh, no idea :D12:53
dm8tbrnemo as in captain nemo12:53
anidelthat is Captain with no name indeed.12:53
lbtStskeeps: it's not RAM12:53
lbtwhich is news12:53
lbtMem:   1538216k total,  1374636k used12:53
Stskeepslbt: ok12:53
dm8tbrit's part of the whole 'sea' theme of 'mer' (in some languages it actually means sea)12:53
lbtSwap:  2097148k total,    46020k used12:54
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Stskeepsalterego:  Nemo tries to project a stern, controlled confidence, but he is driven by a thirst for vengeance and a hatred of imperialism (particularly the British Empire) and wracked by remorse over the deaths of his crew members and even by the deaths of enemy sailors.12:54
Stskeepsdoes it, sound familiar?12:54
Stskeeps:P12:54
alteregoNemo hates me :(12:54
TermanaSounds like your teenage years12:54
Stskeepsalterego: isn't canada part of british empire? ;)12:55
alteregoWhat has Canada got to do with me? :P12:55
anidelonly british columbia :p12:55
alteregolol12:55
alteregoThey're seemingly more french, though they do love "The Queen".12:55
anidelwho canadians? don't tell them that! unless they come from Quebec12:56
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Stskeepslbt: will you follow up on it, or check if OBS upstream has any fixes in this area?12:57
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astro72ahh, i just waited about 5 mins with a black screen (it went past the boot screen) and after that backlight was turned off. I pressed enter 1 time and backlight was lit again but nothin' else happens :P12:58
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Stskeepsanidel: do you have a linux box?12:58
Stskeepseerrr12:58
Stskeepsastro72:12:58
anidel:)12:59
alteregoastro72: try tapping power button again until backlight is on, then tap the screen.13:01
alteregoIt can take a while for the lock screen to show up.13:01
alteregoAnd you might have been unlucky with your SD card purchase :P13:02
astro72aargh, can't be real. I have handful of 8Gb cards but they're all class 4 and the reason i bought one today was because i wanted to try class 6 if it's any better13:03
anidelis there a quicker way to search thru IRC chat logs?13:04
alteregoiirc class 6 isn't much of an improvement for read speeds over 4, but 10 probably is. But I might be wrong, I thought C6 had better write speeds, but not better read speeds.13:04
alteregoAgain, I can't remember if I'm right or not with that information ;)13:04
dm8tbranidel: I thought google indexes them?13:05
FryeI'm running nemo from class 4 and I have to say I like the response13:05
FryeIt's not lightning fast but not too slow either.13:05
alteregoFrye: yeah, I use C4 and works fine for me :)13:05
FryeI do remember the mer on N900 and N810 form some years back =)13:05
dm8tbranidel: also I didn't enable the built in search functionality of the irc logger as that can have heavy impact on the machine load. that machine does other stuff too, so...13:05
FryeIt was much slower then13:05
StskeepsFrye: it was software rendering, naturally it was slow ;)13:05
FryeYep13:06
FryeI know why it was slow =)13:06
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anideldm8tbr: right, no problem13:07
StskeepsFrye: btw, i think i forgot, but just wanted to welcome you here :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time13:07
alteregoAnd that was before llvm13:07
lbtStskeeps: it looks like it's actually blocked on the be13:08
dm8tbranidel: you can always mirror that directory and use grep :)13:08
Stskeepslbt: interesting13:08
alteregoHas anyone tried doing meego settings plugins in QML?13:08
alteregoMaybe just port meego settings completely to QML ..13:09
lbtERROR|# 9912] Could not load all frontpage data, probably due to forbidden anonymous access in the api.13:09
Stskeepslbt: feel free to tamper13:09
Stskeepsperhaps scheduler died again13:09
lbtok13:10
anidelyay, the new N950 just landed onto my desk13:10
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FryeStskeeps, Thanks. I've already helped myself over here =)13:10
StskeepsFrye: good :)13:11
FryeAnd now that I have N9 as my main phone I can easily hack with the N900.13:11
Stskeepshello _Razor_ :)13:11
_Razor_Hi13:11
alteregoanidel: the new N950 can fly?!13:11
lbtpublish failed: 500 remote error: remote error  Internal Server Error13:12
anidelonly way to make it in less than a day from Tampere to my desk, yes, it's by flying :P13:12
Stskeeps_Razor_: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ?13:12
_Razor_Jolla :)13:12
alteregoWhat's Jolla?13:12
* alterego chuckles13:12
_Razor_:D13:12
anidela boat13:13
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Stskeeps_Razor_: cool :) if you want to ask any questions about Mer, the core that Jolla (and other companies uses), feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute, else feel free to hang out and learn :)13:14
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_Razor_Stskeeps: Ok, thanks. I like to follow first what is going on here and then see if I have my part to say13:17
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Stskeeps_Razor_: sure :)13:18
lbtStskeeps: what's odd is that restarting fe fixes it13:18
FryeHmm, I have a broken sim in the phone. top bar is showing the plane mode icon all the time, but in the settings flight mode is off13:19
Fryewhen I turn flight mode on and exit settings and go back the flight mode is off again13:19
lbtFrye: FYI that's mainly a #nemomobile issue13:20
FryeOk, so its the UX not the core issue?13:20
Stskeepsyeah13:20
FryeI'll head over there. Takes a while for me to get to know what is handled where =) Try to bare with me13:21
lbtnp13:21
alteregoRight, I need to nip out to a meeting.13:23
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Sage_alterego: I have new ofono packaged at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=ofono&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl13:24
Sage_alterego: it has issues with n950 modem at least as I didn't manage to get it working yet.13:24
alteregoSage_: awesome, I'll look at that tomorrow when I get back in to dialer work.13:24
Sage_alterego: I'll see if phonesim works with the ofono and if that could be used for testing basic functionalities13:25
alteregoSage_: how have you been testing? test scripts?13:26
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Sage_alterego: yes test scripts13:28
alteregoSage_: ah, okay. Well I'll poke around tomorrow, maybe even this evening if I get a chance.13:29
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alteregoAnyway, I'm out for a bit, bbl.13:31
lbtStskeeps: I tried killing/restarting various bits including memcached, mysql  and even the apache httpd processes - only thing that helped was passenger13:31
Stskeepsok13:31
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Stskeepswelcome back, psior :)13:32
lbtdispatcher is unhappy btw13:32
lbtJob can not be assigned on i586 due to lack of powerhosts: Core:test5:i486::Core_i486::qt-2d0b6727bd73b08daa069ebb88aef169#13:33
psiorCheers Stskeeps :-)13:33
Stskeepslbt: that's funny13:33
Stskeepslbt: phost4 is a powerhost13:33
Stskeepslbt: .. oh, that probably no longer has that hack13:33
lbtBSConfig?13:33
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lbtOK ... it should be good for a while ... need to pop out for 45min... will carry on later13:34
Stskeepsyes bsconfig13:34
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phaeronStskeeps: why would compiling an object file and then linking record the cwd in the resulting .o and .so13:37
Stskeepsphaeron: libtool insanity involved?13:38
Stskeepsphaeron: debug paths?13:38
Stskeepssee if things change -g vs not -g13:38
phaeronno libtool , ruby generates a makefile and make compiles stuff13:39
phaeroncan do -g13:39
phaeronlet's see13:39
phaeronStskeeps: without -g the cwd doesn't get recorded13:42
phaeronso ..13:42
Stskeepsphaeron: that's quite interesting13:43
Sage_alterego: I packaged phonesim also that seems to work so you can emulate modem with that when doing the UI13:43
phaerongood because I was going crazy and sage went crazy already13:43
phaeronSage_: ^^13:43
phaeronStskeeps: so the solution is to ... modify CFLAGS ?13:43
phaeronor do two compilation runs ? or what13:44
Stskeepsphaeron: can you somehow make the compilation stuff show actual command lines?13:44
phaeronyep13:44
Sage_...13:45
phaeronhttp://pastie.org/423783413:46
phaeronwithout -g13:46
phaeronmanually removed13:46
Stskeepsphaeron: do you have static libraries in ruby somewhere?13:46
phaeronSage_: you did the upper layer13:47
phaeronor lower13:47
Sage_phaeron: ?13:47
phaeronSage_: see Stskeeps's question13:47
Sage_Stskeeps: I don't think so, but not sure.13:49
StskeepsSage_: just if you have any .a files from ruby13:49
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Sage_Stskeeps: you mean linked to ruby or in compile env?13:50
Stskeepsin rpms ruby package generates13:50
Stskeepsor .c files, or .h files13:50
Stskeepsthat are in the ruby .rpm13:50
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phaeronok let me see13:53
Sage_Stskeeps: no .c .h or .a files13:54
Sage_my internet is breaking again :/13:55
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phaeronpm -qf /usr/lib/libruby1.9-static.a13:59
phaeronruby19-devel-1.9.3.p194-4.1.i48613:59
phaeron*rpm13:59
phaeronStskeeps:13:59
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Stskeepsinteresting14:00
Stskeepsdoes it utilize this in build?14:00
Sage_actually that gem does14:00
Sage_it needed ruby-devel xml-devel and xslt-devel IIRC14:00
phaeronLIBRUBY_A = lib$(RUBY_SO_NAME)-static.a14:01
phaeronLIBRUBYARG_STATIC = -l$(RUBY_SO_NAME)-static14:01
phaerononly for static target though14:01
Stskeepsright, enough ideas from me?14:01
Stskeepsi'll get on with something else then :)14:01
phaeronthanks, I'll try to fix it14:02
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anidelis there any documentation and/or list of "@" packages in .ks files? I know I am asking for the moon14:19
Stskeepsanidel: that's package groups14:20
Stskeepsi can give you list for Mer, at least14:20
anidelyeah that was "clear", just where do I find their content14:20
anidelwhich packages they group14:20
Stskeepshttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=tree;f=patterns;h=44d3531bfe4e207de4c8c839eda765c9b5671bf5;hb=HEAD14:20
anidelso it will be converted into lower case and spaces into - ?14:21
anidelyup by the look of it14:21
Stskeepsi think Description: is what it is14:22
Stskeepshttp://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=tree is mer, fwiw14:22
Stskeeps:P14:22
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anidelok14:23
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anidelso they're called patterns14:24
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Sage_alterego: I have phonesim packaged as well. For some reason it doesn't start properly before you do "systemctl restart ofono.service" after starting it.14:25
shrikrishnaStskeeps: Mer also works on intel chips? didnt know that! cool!! :)14:26
Stskeepsshrikrishna: even MIPS!14:26
Stskeepsjukkaeklund: your twitter skills are insane14:26
jukkaeklundwow14:26
* shrikrishna is reading MIPS wiki14:27
jukkaeklundI am insane :p14:27
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jukkaeklundbut thanks, stskeeps14:27
jukkaeklundconstructive critisism very welcome too14:28
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w00tjukkaeklund: i think you're definitely doing something right ;)14:28
jukkaeklundthanks14:28
Stskeepsjukkaeklund: i think you might be up for most successful finnish launch award ;)14:28
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shrikrishnaStskeeps: so basically, you can install mer based OS on a gaming console too... :P That's uber cool you know!14:28
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jukkaeklundstskeeps, hehe14:32
jukkaeklundseriously, it's the whole team and I just execute14:32
anidellbt: so, to provide a minimal for N950-N9 I changed the CE:/Adaptation:/N900/CE... to CE:/Adaptation:/N950-N9/Ce... and used @Nokia N950 Support and Proprietary Support whilst using kernel-adaptation-n950, that should make it run on the N950. In the end I had to simply change N900 to N950 except in the ce-adaptation-n900 repo whereas it had to be changed to N950-N914:32
anidelhi jukka14:32
Stskeepsjukkaeklund: yeah, still :)14:33
jukkaeklundanidel, hi!14:34
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anidelmuch appreciated what you guys are doing...really looking forward to see what's in the pipeline14:36
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jukkaeklundthanks14:40
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mjareally big thumbs up from here as well o/14:50
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jukkaeklundthanks14:54
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lbtStskeeps: fe dead again already?15:00
Stskeepslbt: i didn't touch it15:01
lbtthis is silly15:01
lbtnb having ridiculous weather here ... 3cm rain in 30m whilst we were out15:02
lbtmay well lose power again ... just FYI15:02
Stskeepsok15:02
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alteregoIt's good that people are being hesitant about having really high expectations too. Which is positive.15:18
alteregoUnlike all the Nokia Maemo/MeeGo launches, where people would be "It's going to have X woo!" then they came out and "No X? No Y? Why didn't they just bodge Y in?! Y?!?!" :)15:19
Sage_alterego: phonesim seems to work with new ofono so you should have something to test the new ofono with :)15:19
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alteregoGroovy15:19
alteregoSage_: is the n950 modem issue a known one?15:20
anidellbt: it's sunny now in Chiswick, but has been rainy/sunny/rainy the whole day15:20
alteregoI think I heard mention of it before somewhere.15:20
Sage_alterego: not in upstream at least as the n950 modem patch isn't in upstream15:20
alteregokay,15:21
alteregoI don't know of a fix, just remember hearing someone saying that it was busted on N9/5015:21
Sage_well, I'm starting to think my modem broke on my n950 :P15:21
alterego:/15:21
alteregoI'd imagine that's not a trivial thing to do.15:21
alteregoWhy do you think it's broken?15:22
Sage_it responded at first but then it just went mute and disappeared :D15:22
mjafingers crossed my n950 lasts until jollaphones appear15:22
Sage_reboot doesn't help either15:22
alteregoEek, well, I'm sure if you spoke to qgil or launchpad you could get a replacement.15:22
anidelville.moisio@nokia.com15:23
anidelhe is the guys from DAS15:23
Sage_booting harmattan now to check if that works there :)15:23
anidelyou need to speak to in order to have a replacement. Mine got sent yesterday arrived at my desk few hours ago15:23
anidel*the guy15:23
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Sage_ok, so works in harmattan so only ofono broken15:24
alterego:)15:24
anidelbetter to have it broken in sw15:24
Sage_yes15:25
alteregoAnyone else get a follow from AT&T Developer?15:25
Sage_alterego: ?15:25
alteregoJust been getting a lot of random followers on twitter after the Jolla annoucement on Saturday15:26
alteregoSort of like, people have some automatic script which takes the people that Jolla are following and they follow them as well :P15:27
alteregoI remember once I got followed by some make-up artist randomly, and for a week I'd get about 2 followers a day that had that kind of stuff on their profiles ..15:29
alteregoActually she was a model & photographer ..15:29
Stskeepsalterego: with your long hair, i'm sure they just thought you were another model15:30
Stskeeps:P15:30
Stskeeps;)15:30
alteregolol15:30
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* Stskeeps misses having long hair :(15:30
alteregoI like your beard?15:30
psioralterego: most probably twitter spam bots15:30
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slaineWhere are the rpm defaults for the likes of %{libdir} defined ?15:31
slaineI want to see what ones are available15:31
Stskeepsrpmrc or macros15:31
Stskeeps /usr/lib/rpm15:31
alteregoI follow maybe 100 people, which I think is quite small, why would people want to fill up their feeds with random crap like that :)15:31
alteregoMaybe I'd consider it if we had those Google headsets and I just had a constant twitter stream going past my eyes :S15:32
slaineStskeeps: yeah, looked, couldn't spot them15:33
Stskeepsisn't it _libdir, though?15:33
slaineAh, macros in there, missed it somehow15:33
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Stskeepshello tomageeni :)15:55
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tomageeniStskeeps: well, hello for you too. :)15:55
Stskeepstomageeni: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? :)15:56
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tomageeniStskeeps: nothing special, just following the discussion. naturally jolla-case brings some extra interest in the project15:58
Stskeepstomageeni: sure :) if you have any questions about Mer, feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute, else feel free to hang out and learn/watch :)16:05
Stskeepstomageeni: #jollamobile is a good place for jolla discussions too16:05
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astro72Yippee! I got Nemo to work with my 4Gb class 6 card, I just had to run all card formatting etc. thingies with my Win7 -laptop :D16:05
Stskeepsastro72: cool!16:06
astro72so WinXP was a no-go16:06
astro72i assume my class4 cards would've worked as well with Win716:06
astro72but now i got the system up & running yay!16:07
astro72next i'll be getting familiar with the system, then bugzilla i guess ;)16:09
astro72but before that i'll be going to playground with my daughter, c ya later!16:09
Stskeepsenjoy :016:09
Stskeeps:)16:09
alteregolol, Jolla on Mer, makes perfect sense now :D16:12
anidellbt!!! got N950 working with minimal :D16:12
anidelWelcome to Mer :p16:12
Stskeepsalterego: Nemo, submarine..16:12
anidelat first try :) me happy16:12
Stskeeps:P16:12
lbtanidel: excellent16:12
lbtwant to send me the ks16:12
anidelsure hang on16:13
lbtmerge to github if you like16:13
alteregoor fish, or captain :p16:14
lbtanidel: did it have the wavy text changing colour?16:14
w00tmobjust so long as there arent any sharks16:14
anidelyup it has16:15
lbtgood stuff - that makes 2 ... and exopc should be easy too16:15
lbtthen a VM would be ideal16:16
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anidelhope I am doing it right in gist :016:17
anideldo you see it: git://gist.github.com/3091503.git16:18
anidelis yours still there?16:18
anideli created a fork, right way to do it ?16:19
lbtah, I see16:19
lbtideally you'd fork https://github.com/lbt/mer-minimal16:20
anidelops :)16:20
lbtand add that file as n950/minimal-n950.ks16:20
lbtI was being lazy with the gist yesterday16:20
anidelyeah right, still new to github and co16:20
lbtscarily powerful16:21
anideleven though we're using it in the lab I still need to grasp it fully16:21
anideloh lbt, I guess you know already, I created a rootfs and copied over onto Alt_OS.16:25
lbtstandard n950 flashing ?16:26
anidelmoslo dual boot16:26
anidelhaven't tried flashing16:26
anidelbut should work16:26
lbtbad terminology16:26
anideli can try on the N950 that's going to be shipping back to home base16:26
lbton my part16:26
anidel*shipped16:27
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anidelok, basically installed modified moslo, got the alternate OS partition , copied over the new rootfs created with this minimal, booted from there16:27
lbthttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N95016:28
anidelyep, the Dual Boot one16:28
lbtI plan to break that page up to be more generic HW adaptations for Mer with notes for any specific UXes16:28
anidelok, in the end is same as single method, but i told moslo to repartition my MMC so that I still have Harmattan16:29
lbtI need to reload H to my N950 - I've been exclusive Nemo16:30
anidelH?16:30
lbtharmattan16:30
anidelk16:30
lbtStskeeps: seem to have found a trigger - looks possibly auth related16:30
lbtdropped workers right down; hammered at main page anonymously and it was fine16:31
lbtdid a login ... hangs16:31
phaeronldap connection issue ?16:32
lbtnetstat doesn't show anything16:32
lbtThe proxy server could not handle the request POST /user/do_login.16:33
lbtbut why? Nothing has changed recently16:34
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Stskeepshello mtd :)16:37
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lbtgoddam thing is fine now16:50
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lbtI have an infinte loop running osc for api and curl to webui .... meanwhile browsing webui to ger build results etc etc16:51
Stskeepslbt: i can do a copyprj to see if it triggers it16:51
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lbtwell, it's been dying all afternoon withoug16:51
Stskeepsthat's rue16:51
Stskeepstrue16:52
lbttry browsing16:52
lbtit's also set to only have 2 passenger workers for api/webui16:53
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Stskeepsi'll kick off a projectcopy16:54
Stskeepsand see if that causes it to go mad16:54
lbtyep16:54
StskeepsPOST http://api-ci.tspre.org/source/Core:0.20120719.0.0.x:i486?comment=foo&withhistory=1&oproject=Core%3Ai486&cmd=copy&withprjconf=1&withbinaries=1&nodelay=116:54
lbtyep, it did not like that16:55
lbtassuming you sent it?16:55
lbtlogs just stopped dead16:55
Stskeepsi sent it16:56
Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/423883616:57
lbtbefore you pastied here?16:57
Stskeepsit timed out after i pastied16:57
lbtlet me be clear.... I saw your irc message : 11/07/2012 17:54] <Stskeeps> POST http://api-ci.tspre. .....    and almost at that instant the logs stopped dead16:58
Stskeepsyes, that's when i started the command16:58
lbtso did you send that *before* you pasted it to irc or after?16:58
anidelgoing home..ttyl16:58
Stskeepsand posted you POST from it16:58
lbtanidel: o/16:58
Stskeepsthen it timed out16:58
anidel\o16:58
lbtOK, makes sense16:58
phaerontime out can be because the proxy server breaks the connection16:59
phaeronthe request still running in the backend ?16:59
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lbtphaeron: kinda hard to tell17:02
lbtnot much in the way of logging17:02
lbtI'm going to suggest we rollback the current OBS deployment to the last mer 2.3.1-mer117:02
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lbtand see if that's stable17:02
lbtthen do a build of this code and try again17:03
lbtit seemed to be fine under 2.3.1-mer117:03
lbtfor quite a while.... agreed?17:03
phaeronthese hangs were there before I wrote the new code :)17:04
Stskeepsyes17:04
Stskeepswhat phaeron said17:04
lbtOK17:04
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phaeronbut if you want to be sure then go ahead :)17:04
lbtno17:04
lbtwaste of time17:04
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Sage_oh, N900 isn't recognized properly on USB3 port17:08
mtdStskeeps: hello!17:08
Stskeepsmtd: welcome :] so what brings you here to #mer ?17:08
mtdStskeeps: hopes of a new phone to replace my N950 when the LCD gives up completely :)17:09
* mtd is in Android ... land.17:09
Stskeepsmtd: hehe :) cool. if you have any questions about Mer, or on how to contribute to it, feel free to ask, else feel free to hang out17:09
Stskeepsmtd: i guess Jolla might be of interest, #jollamobile17:09
mtdStskeeps: yeah, just hanging out after seeing the topic in #jollamobile17:10
lbtphaeron: 2.3.2 has projectcopy changes17:10
Stskeepsmtd: alright :)17:11
phaeronlbt: from upstream ?17:12
lbtyes17:12
phaeronok will have a look17:12
phaeronwhich branch should I rebase on17:12
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lbtupstream/2.3 at tag 2.3.217:14
lbt4fe0e9c5092e52d188dde7b5510ffa7e9d32141917:14
lbtseems like the only sensible thing to do at this point17:15
lbtI can't see anything in the logs that makes any sense hang-wise17:15
lbtI can't even tell where the hang is happening17:15
phaeronyou can stress test that17:15
lbtI did17:15
phaeronI mean upstream17:15
lbtin what way?17:16
lbtwe have no test system :/17:16
phaeronI mean try to reproduce the hang using 2.3.217:16
Stskeepsif you get packages, we can do it, i guess?17:16
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phaeronanyway gtg home17:17
lbtrebase to 2.3.2 looks painful17:17
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phaeronthat many changes in +.1 stable ?17:19
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lbtno - but in prjcopy17:19
phaeronif it is , I'll just create new api17:20
lbthmm may not be as bad as I thought - much of the patch is in fixtures17:20
phaeronit's a rewrite anyway17:20
phaeronok17:20
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Stskeepshello harriv :)17:23
harrivhello17:24
Stskeepsharriv: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ?17:24
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harrivStskeeps: well, jolla raised my interest about what's going on with mer.. :)17:25
Stskeepsharriv: excellent :) if you have any questions on Mer, or would like to know how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :)17:28
Stskeepsharriv: else feel free to hang out and just learn/watch17:28
harrivStskeeps: thanks.. I'll start with hanging out :)17:29
Stskeepsexcellent17:29
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Stskeepshey rodaaave :)17:34
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Stskeepsdeztructor: did you ever see Lipstick, btw?17:43
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Stskeepshi Vortiago :)17:46
VortiagoHey17:46
StskeepsVortiago: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ?17:47
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VortiagoThe topic on #jollamobile.17:51
Vortiago:p17:51
Stskeepshehe, good answer ;)17:51
StskeepsVortiago: if you have any questions on Mer, or would like to know how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :)17:51
Stskeepselse feel free to hang out and watch/learn/etc17:51
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VortiagoWill keep that in mind.17:52
Stskeepsalright17:53
Stskeepslbt: so what's the hypothesis on stalls ?17:53
lbtit's broken17:54
Stskeepsyess..?17:54
Stskeeps:P17:54
lbtthere are no error messages, no ability to reproduce, no logs....17:55
Stskeepsstrace?17:55
Stskeeps:P17:55
rodaaavehey :) sry I went away, forgetting to set my status to "away"17:55
lbtstrace would be fine if we could reproduce17:56
lbtbut we can't run the whole thing like that17:56
Stskeepslbt: well, i can give you admin rights17:56
Stskeepsso you can copyprj17:56
lbtit's not that though17:56
Stskeepsrodaaave: hehe, no problem :) so what makes you come around to #mer ?17:56
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lbtStskeeps: go on though , lets see17:58
rodaaavethe same as Vortiago :)17:58
rodaaaveand I want to follow mer/jolla's dvpement17:58
Stskeepslbt: copyprj started17:58
Stskeepsrodaaave: alright :) well, as i said to him, if there's anything, just ask :)17:58
Stskeepswe're more than happy to help anybody get started17:58
mikhasStskeeps, did this channel have more than 300 users already?17:59
mikhasmore than 500?17:59
Stskeepsmikhas: i think we're at our top atm17:59
Stskeeps22217:59
Stskeepscore isn't always sexy :)17:59
chouchounecore is lovely18:00
Stskeepschouchoune: how's your challenges going btw?18:01
chouchoune(that works only in french actually ;))18:01
chouchouneStskeeps: second submission ;)18:01
chouchounehttp://review.merproject.org/#change,65518:01
Stskeepsah cool18:01
rodaaaveStskeeps: thanks :D18:01
Stskeepssorry for the CI machinery not being up, we're working hard on it18:01
lbtso Stskeeps copyprj complete?18:02
lbtCI is still up18:02
StskeepsPOST http://api-ci.tspre.org/source/Core:0.20120719.0.0.y:i486?comment=foo&withhistory=1&oproject=Core%3Ai486&cmd=copy&withprjconf=1&withbinaries=1&nodelay=118:02
StskeepsFailed to reach a server:18:02
Stskeepstimed out18:02
Stskeepsit's ongoing atm i think18:02
Sage_chouchoune: looks good now ;)18:02
chouchouneSage_: you did the first review ?18:02
* Sage_ is Marko Saukko18:02
Sage_chouchoune: so yes18:02
chouchoune(I don't know the matching names-nicknames except for Stskeeps and lbt ;))18:03
chouchouneok, good to know18:03
* lbt takes deep breath ....18:03
* iekku is iekku18:03
Stskeepslbt: ?18:03
iekku:D18:03
Stskeepslbt: still copying on be18:04
lbtgoing back to look some more ... but it's really annoying :/18:04
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Sage_chouchoune: mark the bug RESOLVED-FIXED and put the url there and you are done :)18:05
Sage_chouchoune: if the thing compiles in review.18:06
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chouchounehuuuu, I thought I already marked it as resolved18:14
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chouchouneSage_: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34218:15
chouchouneisn't it OK ?18:15
chouchouneI have the interface in french but as far as I know, "RESOLU CORRIGE" means "RESOLVED FIXED"18:17
Sage_chouchoune: oh, it is ok. sry18:19
chouchouneno problem, just checking ;)18:19
chouchouneso ... let's pick a new bug ;)18:20
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merderyou probably are aware that the certificates in bugs.merproject.org and wiki.merproject.org are broken?18:21
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chouchounebroken ?18:22
Stskeepsmerder: no, just self-signed18:23
Stskeepsbig difference :)18:23
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merderself-signed not trusted and the certificate is only applicable to bugs subdomain, not wiki18:23
dm8tbri believe they are just self signed18:23
Stskeepsmerder: hmmm18:23
Stskeepsmerder: so wiki gives you the bugs cert?18:23
chouchouneon wiki.merproject.org18:23
chouchouneI see a certificate for that subdomain18:24
chouchounenot trusted is normal ... as self signed18:24
merderyes i know, thats why i said self signed :P18:25
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merderStskeeps: actually looks like wiki is giving me the right certificate18:27
Stskeepsbut bugs isn'T?18:27
merderboth are18:27
merderbut not for this service: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=bugs.merproject.org https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=wiki.merproject.org18:27
chouchouneweird18:29
chouchounefirefox tells me wiki.merproject.org has the right one18:29
Stskeepslbt: do we use many-ssl-per-ip?18:29
lbtyes18:30
lbtmerder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication18:32
merderyeah, i know, i guess these services just dont support sni then18:34
lbtthanks for the pointers though18:34
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lbtI'm surprised it doesn't show TLS>1.018:34
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merderor its just a compatibility problem with your site18:38
chouchounefor the SNI, no, it's the same for me18:39
chouchounecf. domain name adherents.ndn-fai.fr => certificate mail.chouchoune.fr18:40
chouchouneand it's the same for TLS>1 for me18:41
merderno i meant between that service and your site18:41
chouchouneI mean, it's between that service and every site ;)18:42
merderoh yeah, i think i have tested a site there that had sni though18:46
merderjust some bug i guess18:46
lbtthey basically say why at the bottom of the page18:47
lbtno self-signed18:47
Stskeeps* New packages got not detected, when using project project links to a remote OBS instance.18:47
Stskeepsoh thank god18:47
lbt2.3.218:47
Stskeeps2.3.318:47
phaeronis that similar to my fix ? :D18:48
lbt$watch = "package/$ev->{'project'}" unless defined $watchremote->{$watch};18:48
lbt10.110.0.3 - - [11/Jul/2012:20:48:30 +0200] "GET /error/HTTP_BAD_GATEWAY.html.var HTTP/1.1" 200 99018:50
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phaeronok so another unrelated bug18:50
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vgradenice looking Mer target board, http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php18:56
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Stskeepsindeed, if it comes with ubuntu too18:57
vgrademake or break on kernel source and gpu support as usual19:00
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lbtStskeeps: just FYI we're doing a complete reconfig on CI19:36
Stskeepslbt: ok, as long as you don't raze the dbs, fine19:37
Stskeepsor any of the build projects19:37
lbtno, all the urls etc19:37
Stskeepsok19:37
phaeronthat's was my first suggestion19:37
phaeron:D19:37
lbtphaeron: LDAP later too19:37
phaeronyeah19:37
lbtok options.yml for api19:38
Stskeepsapi.ci.merproject?19:38
lbtyes19:39
Stskeepsdo i need to assign admin to any of you?19:39
lbtno, we can probably do that if needed19:39
Stskeeps.. yeah, ok19:39
lbtor we'll yell19:39
lbtphaeron: eww19:40
phaeronhow did that happen19:40
Stskeepswhatdidyoudo19:40
lbtStskeeps: you can see a dcp diff later :)19:40
phaeronwe are reviewing the config in a shared screen , and I found a weird setting19:40
Stskeepsook19:41
Stskeeps:P19:41
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lbtand we thought we'd work here to make you nervous19:41
Stskeepswhich?19:41
Stskeepslbt: i'm so dead in the head right now you could be slapping me with trouts and i wouldn't care19:41
Stskeeps:P19:41
lbtyeah, I was until phaeron cheered me up :)19:41
* phaeron throws a gem -g at Stskeeps19:41
lbtphaeron: on a properly vlan'ed sytem that'd be on a dedicated vlan19:42
phaeronwhat's that .. this is a .yml file not basj19:44
phaeronbash19:44
lbthmm19:44
lbtthat's taken from the appliance setup19:44
lbtbut yeah19:45
lbtit must be eval'ed as part of the bash redirection ... it's inside " not '19:45
lbtta19:46
lbtok19:46
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lbtanything else?19:50
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phaeronnope19:52
lbt14490 :(19:54
lbtCannot load person data for Admin in application_helper19:55
lbt[Sun May 13 13:04:15 2012] [error] [client 10.110.0.3] Premature end of script headers:19:55
lbtDirectory index forbidden by Options directive: /srv/www/obs/webui/public/19:55
phaerondirectory index is ok never  mind that19:56
phaerondo we have links ? run it in separate screen19:56
lbtlinks? lynx?19:56
phaeronlinks19:56
phaeronwhicever , I like elinks19:57
lbtsec19:57
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phaeronlbt: can we check db config and do a rake migrate just in case ?19:57
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lbtback20:23
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lbt(phone call from aunt)20:23
lbtbe is not on localhost20:23
lbtphaeron: ^^20:23
moo-_-aunt of localhosts20:23
phaeronyes I know20:24
phaeron:)20:25
lbtwebui?20:25
lbtit's build20:25
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phaerondoesn't matter20:26
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lbtso ... what are you doing?20:31
lbtcan we please change webui to build20:32
lbtnot the other way around20:32
phaeronlbt: it's just a local alias20:33
lbtno, it's in main DNS20:33
phaeronlbt: I am trying to get all comms on loop device20:33
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phaeronbecause network seems to be stalling imho. routing or firewall botched20:33
lbtsure - but it also needs to respond to main DNS on build20:33
phaeronlbt: I put that alias  in /etc/host20:33
phaeronlbt: I didn't remove the servername , I added a serveralias, it will respond toboth20:34
phaeronsee :)20:34
phaeronlbt: there you go , should be fixed20:35
phaeronunless the comms to backend are broken too20:35
phaeronlbt: how do you exit emacs :D20:35
lbt^x^c20:36
phaeronbut I  don't want to save20:37
lbtyou didn't20:37
phaeronok thanks20:37
lbtit reverted20:37
lbtie read the on-disk20:37
phaeronok20:37
phaeronso lets check if it still works20:37
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lbtunlikely to20:38
lbtneeds web first20:39
phaeronwhat do you mean20:39
phaeronso backend at least is working20:39
lbti need the www reverse proxy setup20:41
phaeronimho there's something wrong in the route to reverse proxy20:42
lbtinternet->phost->iptables->www->'fe'20:43
lbtinternet->phost->iptables-(ssl)>www-(http)>'fe'20:43
lbtwe haven't done www yet20:43
lbtwe're not doing ssl yet20:43
phaeronI am not using ssl20:44
lbtI know20:45
lbtyet20:45
lbtjust editing it20:45
anidel_homehi20:45
lbto/20:45
anidel_home\o20:45
anidel_homethe minimal-n900-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 can be flashed straight to the N900's MMC?20:46
lbtphaeron: "Timeout occurred"20:46
lbtanidel_home: we never suggest mmc flashing20:47
lbtalmost no gain (usually a loss) and reasonable risk20:47
anidel_homeyeah but I've got a legacy N900 who is now dead (as I don't have its firmware), so wanted to see if Mer can revive it20:47
anidel_homelegacy = proto20:47
lbtthat's a question for Sage or Stskeeps in the morning then20:48
anidel_homeunfortunately it doesn't have uboot installed...so unless it can be flashed, I see no other way to try to make good use of it20:48
anidel_homelet's see20:48
norayranidel_home: why don't you download firmware for n900 and reflash it first with stock firmware?20:48
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anidel_homebecause it's a proto, and needs a different fw20:49
anidel_homeI had it but can't find it anymore...changed too many PCs/companies perhaps...20:49
lbtphaeron: so ... that looks like the old problem?20:49
nochto boot nemomobile you need to have u-boot installed in maemo20:49
phaeronlbt: what does ?20:50
lbtcould be in the route... let me see20:50
nochanidel_home: did you try the firmware from tablets-dev.nokia.com? Doesn't it work?20:50
anidel_homeyeah but I think uboot isn't needed to boot from MMC20:50
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phaeronlbt: the passenger prestart now works when it accesses the alias that communicates over lo020:50
nochcurrently u-boot is a standard way to boot nemomobile20:50
anidel_homenoch: nope it doesn't. When I had the same firmware had to wait for the Nokia guys to give us firmware for our own models20:51
anidel_homenoch: I know, mainly to allow booting from microSD20:51
phaeronlbt: requests coming  from internet cause hange. so I think it might be related to the routeing20:51
anidel_homeso unless I can flash uboot from PC, I can't see a way to revive it20:51
nochanidel_home: hmmm. There is another option however. Today you may try to install SHR distribution to the n90020:51
anidel_homeSHR?20:51
lbtyeah - I sent the route via a phost-local bridge - vlan1920:52
lbtvlan1020:52
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nochanidel_home: http://shr-project.org/trac20:52
anidel_homeactually I can: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/U-Boot_from_scratch20:52
anidel_homelet's see noch20:52
nochit has n900 port too.20:52
lbthmmm20:52
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nochanidel_home: I use it on openmoko, and there is a youtube video which shows SHR on n90020:53
anidel_homenoch: might try, but if i can flash this, I can also flash mer :)20:53
nochanidel_home: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI20:53
anidel_homeyeah watching it20:54
nochanidel_home: yes, may be. just an option to tinker before you figure out how to boot nemo20:54
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anidel_homeuhm following their instructions I might endup having uboot installed and thus then run Mer ! let's see20:55
lbtphaeron: can't be a routing issue20:56
lbtit doesn't have a tcp to the client - handled by rev-proxy20:57
phaeronwell something is screwy in the connection20:58
phaeronit couldn't connect to itself so it hung on prestart20:59
phaeronwhen I moved prestart to talk over loopback it works20:59
phaeronso..20:59
lbtit doesn't need to prestart - least of our worries21:00
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phaeroncan't connect to itself means webui can't talk to api using the external hostname21:01
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anidel_homeyai! uboot installed booted from MMC :D21:06
nochyep!21:06
anidel_home\o/ let's see if Nemo starts21:06
anidel_homeit id21:06
anidel_homedid \o/21:06
phaeronlbt: check the logs in screen 1 , it can't resolve that hostname21:06
nochanidel_home: cool!21:06
Sage_hehe :)21:06
lbtand if it did it wouldn't work on th vhost21:07
phaeronlbt: sometimes you talk in riddles :)21:07
lbtapache would see an http connection for a vhost called api-vlan1021:07
lbtthat's not therr21:07
lbte21:07
phaeronyeah hence the alias in /etc/hosts and ServerAlias directive21:08
anidel_homeI reco that I was doing these kind of hacks when I was a student .. all the day long, from building my PC to preparing a Gentoo OS of my own liking :( Advances in UI made me lazy.21:09
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phaeronlbt: did you sleep ?21:12
lbtno21:12
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lbtthink, type, works :)21:13
lbtbut I also noticed the vlans are not optimal21:14
phaeronok I'll leave you to it21:14
lbtno, I'm not touching them21:14
nochanidel_home: I am not a student but I also use gentoo. I even managed to build one on n81021:14
anidel_homenoch: cool stuff21:15
nochanidel_home: that's the most flexible os ever. And windowmaker. I think GNUStep is even suitable for mobile.21:15
phaeronlbt: you made me hate vlans :)21:16
lbtwe don't have switches in mer so they're not great21:16
lbtin meego they're fine21:16
lbtfck21:16
phaeronwell at least I think I pinpointed the issue for you ;)21:17
lbtyeah, obs is broken21:17
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phaeronno your network is broken21:17
lbtyeah, it works for months and then stops when we upgrade to 2.3.1 .... rly ?21:18
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CosmoHillnight night22:39
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lbtOK, phaeron and I seem to have sorted CI... it's moved to an https location now too. We're not sure what the problem was exactly but something seemed to be hitting it and causing issues.23:07
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