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| iekku | morning | 03:39 |
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| sonach | iekku: morning :) | 03:40 |
| iekku | hmm, raining and i need to go to buss soon | 03:43 |
| iekku | 2km to buss stop :/ | 03:43 |
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| Paimen | Morning all | 03:51 |
| iekku | morning Paimen | 03:52 |
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| kyyberi | away | 05:04 |
| kyyberi | hups | 05:04 |
| kyyberi | morning | 05:04 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 05:05 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: morning! http://pastie.org/4235743, | 05:26 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: failed to make under osc chroot | 05:26 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i need some context on that :) | 05:26 |
| Stskeeps | what did you do in steps before that | 05:26 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: (1) enter mer sb2-sdk; (2) osc build --no-verify --download-api-only standard armv7el (3) osc chroot (4) cd to rpmbuild/BUILD/matchbox (5) make | 05:28 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, you need an additional step after (3), sb2 -t oscbuild -m obs-rpm-build | 05:28 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it works, thank you! but it seems a little strange to have this additional step :P you know, there are a lot of steps to do 'make' under OBS :) | 05:31 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: yes | 05:31 |
| Stskeeps | last step activates cross compilation | 05:31 |
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| sonach | ok, got it:) | 05:32 |
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| shrikrishna | morning Stskeeps :) | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | morn sonach | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | er, shrikrishna :) | 06:01 |
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| timoph | morning | 06:13 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: I'll take a look at the offline reports for tr-ui tomorrow (will be on a train for 5 hours) | 06:14 |
| niqt | morning | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 06:14 |
| timoph | going to ilosaarirock | 06:14 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: does N900 use EXA driver framework to accellerate Xorg? | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | but mostly gles | 06:18 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: One member of our team is now focusing on HW acceleration on hi3716m, we are considering to use EXA driver framework to accel Xorg, and think that N900's driver can help a lot, | 06:20 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: perhaps, it is using some pvr2d hw in the background | 06:20 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: pvr2d is the 2D part of OMAP3630? | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, of powervr sgx in there | 06:21 |
| E-P | Good morning | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | good morning E-P :) | 06:22 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: What chip does OMAP3630 correspond to, OMAP3530 or 3730? I only have 3530 and 3730 at hand :) | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: doesn't matter, just pvr2d :) | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | maybe omapfb can do more | 06:23 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: where to download N900's EXA related drivers(I think there might be several packages for this)? | 06:24 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | go to search (button, not dsearch field) on build.pub.meego.com | 06:25 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: and 'maybe omapfb can do more' means xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-omapfb?? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | no, just the kernel driver for it | 06:25 |
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| sonach | so what do you mean by 'maybe omapfb can do more'? | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | that maybe the omap DSS chip can do more than pvr2d | 06:26 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: ok. I just want to download one EXA driver and do some research on it and then implement our own ... | 06:27 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: yes, then take xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx | 06:27 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok :) | 06:28 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: I found that it is in your home project ! :P | 06:29 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: and can NEMO run on Beagleboard-XM development board? | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: well, xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx can't, but other solutions exist there | 06:32 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: so NEMO using other solution other than xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | it uses it on n900 | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | but n900 is special | 06:34 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. Now my question is clearer: Can xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx run on Beagleboard-XM? Since I can test this on the dev-board and do some research, | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | no, it can't | 06:36 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ... so how can i test 'xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx'? | 06:36 |
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| sonach | on what hardware can I test 'xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx' ? | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | n900 itself - on beagleboard you'd probably use another org driver | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | like omapfb or pvr | 06:38 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: but omapfb or pvr is not EXA based, right? | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: they might be, but pvr driver on beagleboard xm isn't open source | 06:39 |
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| Sage_ | is there problem with mer wiki as it is very slow very often? | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: we've noticed that, not sure why | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i think omapfb might be somehow | 06:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: omapfb is EXA-based, and can run on beagle-XM? | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: i need to check, but i think it might be | 06:41 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: you said that omapfb is kernel driver, so can not download it from pub.build.meego.com? | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so, omapfb (without xorg-x11-drv) in front, is a part of the linux kernel for OMAP/a chip | 06:43 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: ok. so I think I don't need to care about xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx any more?? | 06:44 |
| sonach | hmmm, anyway xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx is EXA-based driver, though I can not test it ... | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: well, if you want to write a driver for hi3716m it's useful | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | to see how it can be done | 06:44 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, so, I should look at xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx and omapfb, this two. | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | xorg-x11-drv-omapfb | 06:45 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: cool, thank you for your time:) we will do more research :) | 06:46 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: sdk doesn't support .mersdk.bashrc or similar files other the .mersdk.profile? | 06:52 |
| Sage_ | ah, .mersdkrc | 06:52 |
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| lbt | morning all | 07:04 |
| lbt | yep - nb ... if the docs need clarification then please mention it | 07:05 |
| lbt | sonach: o/ | 07:05 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: had another fe stall, stop apache, killall -u wwwrun, start apache | 07:06 |
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| Stskeeps | will let you know of next stall | 07:06 |
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| smoku | I see that MER#412 is fixed. Can I get the fix somehow to push my builds forward, or do I have to wait for next Mer release? | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i'm hoping to get a prerelease out soon(TM), the thing is that we're mucking around in doing better releasing atm | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | and it's not helping our OBS frontend is stalling randomly | 07:09 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: pre-release is what will eventually land in Mer:Core:Next on COBS? | 07:09 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 07:10 |
| smoku | ok. thx. | 07:10 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: 99% sure this is simply Rails api service causing oom | 07:11 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: at least I know where to enable debugging (shoulda done that last night) | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: alright | 07:13 |
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| lbt | why doesn't konversation have eye-tracking so it knows I've glanced at it and seen the highlight? | 07:14 |
| sonach | lbt: morning! got your email and will feedback as soon as possilbe. I should check the content with my boss :P | 07:16 |
| lbt | of course | 07:16 |
| lbt | also I realised we had not discussed Qt/QML | 07:16 |
| lbt | is Qt/QML important to you? | 07:16 |
| w00t | to all! | 07:17 |
| w00t | ;-) | 07:18 |
| lbt | :) | 07:18 |
| w00t | lbt: how'd your demo the other day go btw... minimer kept on working i hope :) | 07:18 |
| lbt | it did, and the 'crash' is simply a limit in the animation code | 07:18 |
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| sonach | lbt: Yes. Qt/QML is important. Since we should support native apps which is developed by the carriers and middle-ware companies, | 07:18 |
| lbt | sonach: OK - and is QML better for you than the previous Qt Widget approach? | 07:19 |
| sonach | lbt: We have not compared QML vs Qt Widget for the moment. you know, we use qtmediahub as our media center and it uses QML. that's all :P | 07:21 |
| sonach | but generally speeking, QML is more convinent for UI design, | 07:21 |
| lbt | OK - getting a feel for "fair" things to say about some of the technology | 07:22 |
| sonach | and QML is good when we consider to change the SKIN of our UX, | 07:22 |
| lbt | yep | 07:22 |
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| sonach | anyway, I think we will recommend to use QML instead of Qt Wigdet, | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | makes more sense on a TV anyway | 07:23 |
| lbt | I guess you're on low power hardware so HTML5 is probably still not up to the level of native wrt performance | 07:23 |
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| sonach | lbt: you get the point! We once considering using Qt/Web/Java to develop home app, and finally, most people agree to use Native dev, | 07:25 |
| sonach | but the hardware is not VERY LOW, | 07:26 |
| sonach | you can consider hi3716m as a reference, | 07:26 |
| lbt | OK | 07:26 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: feel free to beat on the api for a bit | 07:31 |
| lbt | debug is on | 07:31 |
| lbt | w00t: I progressed on shader just showing a pink clipping rectangle to a nice black wavy rectangle - so I think I fixed the vector shader code ... now I need to do the fragment shader | 07:33 |
| w00t | ,bef0rd | 07:33 |
| w00t | .. | 07:33 |
| w00t | lbt: \o/ | 07:33 |
| w00t | (I have no idea how that turned into ,bef0rd) | 07:34 |
| lbt | s/float/highp float/ | 07:34 |
| lbt | I don't know what a highp float is ... | 07:34 |
| lbt | but it likes it | 07:34 |
| * lbt is hacking by statistical probability of a syntax error based on nearby lines | 07:35 | |
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| Stskeeps | Magic number checking on storable file failed at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_retrieve.al) line 380, at BSUtil.pm line 531 | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | happens in scheduler | 07:37 |
| lbt | and another api dies | 07:37 |
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| lbt | but only one storable error this morning and 6 api fails so far | 07:39 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: a lot of the api processes have not written anything into the logs | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | i have to head downtown a while in ~30 minutes, for driving class | 07:43 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I found you some inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuDN2bCIyus&feature=youtu.be | 07:47 |
| lbt | it helps when you recognise the roads.... | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: that's like when you were driving! | 07:48 |
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| lbt | I try *g* | 07:49 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Juhi24 :) | 07:58 |
| Juhi24 | Hi all! | 08:01 |
| lbt | o/ | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | Juhi24: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 08:02 |
| * Sage_ ponders what happened to cobs | 08:04 | |
| Sage_ | ah, now it responds | 08:04 |
| Sage_ | always helps to complain ;) | 08:05 |
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| Juhi24 | Stskeeps: I think the usual story: Bought N900 couple of years ago and that made me interested in a lot of mobile linux stuff. | 08:06 |
| Juhi24 | and now Jolla | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | Juhi24: sure :] if you have any questions about Mer, feel free to ask at any time. unofficial jolla discussion is in #jollamobile, we develop Mer Core here - if you want to know how to contribute, you can ask about that too ;) | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | else feel free to hang out | 08:07 |
| Juhi24 | Yeh, thanks for the words of welcome :) | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, it's important to help build community :) | 08:08 |
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| Stskeeps | welcome back ravirdv :) | 08:33 |
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| ravirdv | hi | 08:40 |
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| anidel | morning | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:21 |
| w00t | moin anidel | 09:21 |
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| anidel | cycled to work as usual this morning, only to find out I forgot the pants at home ! | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | you went to work without pants? | 09:22 |
| anidel | no, I'm not in my underwear :) luckily I had a pair of shorts at hands (was supposed to play soccer in the company tournament :P) | 09:22 |
| w00t | hehe, well, that's a new one | 09:22 |
| anidel | :) | 09:22 |
| w00t | i've walked out the door without shoes, though.. | 09:22 |
| w00t | got halfway down my pavement and went "hey, hold on, why do I feel the stone under my feet" | 09:23 |
| anidel | ahaha well I was about to jump on the bike once w/o shoes as well, but I had the flip flops on | 09:23 |
| anidel | w00t! | 09:23 |
| anidel | :) | 09:23 |
| anidel | I'm not calling you, it's an expression... | 09:23 |
| * w00t is used to it | 09:23 | |
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| frals | w00t: didnt think anyone use shoes in your neck of the woods... ;) | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | hey phony | 09:25 |
| w00t | frals: that was when I was still living in civilisation | 09:26 |
| frals | ah | 09:26 |
| frals | :D | 09:26 |
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| alterego | You know, last night I wanted to open a URL on my phone I was looking at on my desktop. So I copy and pasted the URL into this site: http://qrcode.kaywa.com/ | 09:28 |
| * alterego should make a firefox plugin or something | 09:29 | |
| phony | Stskeeps: is a bot? | 09:30 |
| alterego | You're not the first to think that. | 09:30 |
| Sage_ | phony: ;) | 09:30 |
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| w00t | a code robot, maybe | 09:30 |
| Paimen | very sophisticated bot he is :P | 09:30 |
| anidel | alterego: ask Nokia Drop to release their protocol :p | 09:31 |
| alterego | anidel: what's Nokia drop? Also, mine works on every smart phone OS :P | 09:32 |
| alterego | Is it like drop box? :) | 09:32 |
| anidel | it's a plugin for FF (I think) that does exactly that...drops a URL fro the desktop straight to your Nokia phone. | 09:33 |
| anidel | I think there's a client for Symbian | 09:33 |
| anidel | it's in Beta | 09:33 |
| anidel | Labs | 09:33 |
| anidel | http://betalabs.nokia.com/trials/nokia-drop | 09:33 |
| anidel | it does a few more things, but the URL one is the one I used when I had the N8 for a bit | 09:34 |
| anidel | would be nice to ask the team to open up their protocol so one can write clients for N9 ;) it's a neat idea. Or we can copy the idea ourselves.. | 09:35 |
| anidel | ourselves meaning community | 09:35 |
| alterego | Sure, I'd probably do it with a QR Code though. | 09:36 |
| alterego | Literally <1 minute for me to do that :P | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | phony: nop, just friendly :) so what brings you here to #mer? | 09:37 |
| anidel | you said 'do that', haven't you? :) | 09:37 |
| alterego | anidel: yes, I did it last night. :P | 09:37 |
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| anidel | still that involves opening the QR code app...fast on the Lumia not so on N9 :) :p | 09:39 |
| anidel | anyway, off to a meeting, then complete setting up my Mer SDK | 09:40 |
| anidel | ttyl | 09:40 |
| phony | Stskeeps: hi then, just recently heard about JollaMobile and reincarnation of MeeGo, decided to follow the process | 09:40 |
| Frye | Same for me really. Can't wait to get my hands on the new device. | 09:41 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: fe is looking stable atm | 09:42 |
| Frye | So while I wait I'll be setting up mer to my N900 | 09:42 |
| Frye | Going to try it with class 4 card, but I think I really need to get a faster one in the end. | 09:42 |
| Frye | Just happen to have bunch of class 4's lying around | 09:43 |
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| Stskeeps | phony: sure :) if you have any questions about Mer, or on how to contribute, feel free to ask anytime :) else feel free to hang out | 09:43 |
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| lbt | phaeron1: may I delete the prjcopy branch and move copyprj to point at it ... | 10:14 |
| phaeron1 | I already deleted it long time ago , do a fetch -p | 10:15 |
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| * lbt goes to change all scripts that mention copyprj to prjcopy.... | 10:16 | |
| lbt | I'm watching fe and meanwhile cleaning patch and preparing an OBS -mer2 release | 10:17 |
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| ericc | hello | 10:45 |
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| lbt | hi ericc | 10:49 |
| anidel | brb | 10:50 |
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| msaily | alterego: Tried ofono 0.52 using dbus-send and calls were working using object path to n9500. First we had path isimodem0 which didn't work. Could you please check if dialer is using n9500? | 10:50 |
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| anidel | back via Irssi, let's see | 10:51 |
| ericc | Jussi Hurmola, the CEO of JollaMobile (audio and text available) :) | 10:51 |
| Sage_ | msaily: Dialer should be dynamically query the object paths already as it works on more than one platform. | 10:52 |
| Sage_ | just a sidenote. | 10:52 |
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| lbt | ericc: jolla stuff is best discussed in #jollamobile :) | 10:53 |
| msaily | Sage: ok. | 10:53 |
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| alterego | msaily: dialer auto-uses first available modem, so it's not got that hard coded. | 10:53 |
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| alterego | msaily: if you want to debug dialer, I'd recommend removing it from xdg, and starting it manually from console to get debug output. | 10:54 |
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| alterego | What's the environment variable you set to get stdout from meego apps? | 11:00 |
| alterego | M_DEBUG_LEVEL or something like that? | 11:00 |
| lbt | YAY .... fixed the shader problems on N900 :) | 11:00 |
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| lbt | w00t: ^^ | 11:01 |
| w00t | lbt: that sounds good :P | 11:02 |
| lbt | http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/qml-shadereffectsource.html#mipmap-prop | 11:02 |
| anidel | sound goods indeed | 11:02 |
| lbt | "Note: Some OpenGL ES 2 implementations do not support mipmapping of non-power-of-two textures." | 11:02 |
| lbt | anidel: it was more an issue with the shader fragments being non-portable | 11:03 |
| w00t | lbt: what are you doing with shaders, ooi? | 11:05 |
| lbt | have an N900? | 11:06 |
| lbt | I'll let you follow some instructions and see for yourself.... I don't believe in youtube :) | 11:07 |
| w00t | lbt: not sure (and not easily accessible) | 11:07 |
| w00t | I have two, one is dead, the other is probably out of battery | 11:07 |
| lbt | mmm OK | 11:07 |
| anidel | lbt: when running minimal and having the USB attached, will the N900 charge? | 11:07 |
| lbt | "If you have more of your cool code on you-tube than docs showing others how to build on it - you're doing it wrong :)" | 11:08 |
| lbt | anidel: I'll tell you in 8hrs | 11:08 |
| anidel | :p | 11:08 |
| lbt | I think so - it's in the kernel/HW | 11:08 |
| anidel | ok so just now lightining up the led | 11:08 |
| lbt | I *think* the user-mode code is the monitor only | 11:08 |
| lbt | yeah - be careful if you plug in usb when it's dead; it boots but with no backlight | 11:09 |
| Frye | Hmm, should the Nemo image have working wlan on N900? | 11:09 |
| lbt | so it seems dead but if you hold it up to the light you can make out text | 11:09 |
| Frye | 20120614.1 | 11:09 |
| lbt | Frye: yes | 11:10 |
| lbt | there's a 201207 image | 11:10 |
| Frye | All I get when going to the wlan settings is a red hello world | 11:10 |
| lbt | Frye: known bug | 11:10 |
| Frye | nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-07-02.1 | 11:10 |
| lbt | exit settings and re-enter | 11:10 |
| Frye | ok | 11:11 |
| lbt | it only works once | 11:11 |
| lbt | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203 | 11:11 |
| lbt | so doing a zypper ref;zypper up will fix it | 11:11 |
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| Frye | Fell in love with my N900 again | 11:12 |
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| Frye | Looks nice | 11:12 |
| alterego | Who knows anything about libresource? | 11:16 |
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| * iekku looks at #nemomobile, silent there :( | 11:18 | |
| Sage_ | well, most of that talk is here now as well :P | 11:19 |
| iekku | :nod: | 11:25 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: spectacle 0.25 coming to sdk? | 11:54 |
| lbt | yes | 11:54 |
| lbt | unlikely to be this week - maybe | 11:55 |
| lbt | in fact no, not even maybe | 11:55 |
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| lbt | gitk --all | 11:57 |
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| chouchoune | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/spectacle.git;a=summary | 11:59 |
| chouchoune | is it normal ? | 11:59 |
| chouchoune | mmmhhh, looks like it is ... all mer-tools repo are similar | 12:00 |
| chouchoune | hi all, btw | 12:00 |
| Sage_ | chouchoune: hi. yes some of those haven't been populated yet | 12:00 |
| Sage_ | mainly in the tools area | 12:00 |
| Sage_ | lbt: oh. I thought it was in already in sdk --next :/ | 12:00 |
| lbt | .24 I think | 12:01 |
| lbt | not 100% sure ... no pkg DB solution :/ | 12:01 |
| lbt | chouchoune: yeah - I'm planning on doing tools git differently | 12:01 |
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| chouchoune | lbt: ok, was just looking at this because I read the discussion just before : not really looking at the code right now anyway ;) | 12:03 |
| lbt | ok | 12:03 |
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| alterego | So, not two phones this year :) So much easier undestanding information when you don't have to rely on peoples' "googles" poor translations. | 12:11 |
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| anidel | Hopefully based on Mer as well? I doubt so though :) https://twitter.com/3v1n0/status/222817834881921024 | 12:12 |
| alterego | Probably ubuntu mobile by the looks of his profile. | 12:15 |
| anidel | yeah I know he works for Canonical. | 12:16 |
| anidel | it was just an utopic dream :0 | 12:16 |
| chouchoune | Cubuntu mobile based on mer ? ;) | 12:16 |
| chouchoune | I think we can sell it to engadget | 12:16 |
| chouchoune | or slashdot | 12:17 |
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| ZogG_laptop | is mer rpm based? | 12:22 |
| alterego | Yes, | 12:23 |
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| alterego | iekku: thanks for the reply to my email ;) | 12:28 |
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| iekku | sorry it took so long | 12:28 |
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| astro72 | hi again, can anyone help me as I've just bought me a new SanDisk 4Gb class 6 microsd & i'm using latest image with N900 --> after nemo boot screen display just shows black (well the backlight's on but nothin' else). | 12:37 |
| astro72 | I've done everything as instructed in http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N900 (well i decompressed that image file with 7zip but that's all that's different). | 12:37 |
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| alterego | astro72: have you waited an unspecified amount of time for first boot? | 12:42 |
| alterego | Can take a while. | 12:42 |
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| alterego | If it's for a _very_ long time, try tapping the power button a couple of times and/or the screen. | 12:42 |
| astro72 | how much is very long time? 5 mins? | 12:43 |
| alterego | Potentially yes. | 12:43 |
| alterego | 5 minutes sounds about right | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | astro72: 5 mins should be enough.. walk me through the steps you're doing | 12:43 |
| anidel | sorry, where do I find IRC chat logs? | 12:43 |
| anidel | of Mer of course | 12:43 |
| alterego | If you're seeing the nemo bootscreen, then that's positive. | 12:43 |
| alterego | anidel: in the title | 12:43 |
| dm8tbr | if the card is slow it could take longer | 12:43 |
| alterego | Class 6 is reasonible, I run on C4 | 12:44 |
| astro72 | i've seen the bootscreen but after that it goes black and remains so for minutes | 12:44 |
| astro72 | but if 5 mins< is ok i'll wait :) | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | anidel: topic "this chanel is logged" | 12:44 |
| alterego | astro72: first boot will take longer than consecutive boots. | 12:46 |
| anidel | ok found it, irssi wasn't wrapping topic on top | 12:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | alterego thanks | 12:46 |
| astro72 | alterego: thanks | 12:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | alterego, is there any mer-based distros that are not rpm? | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | no, mer is rpm, simple as that | 12:47 |
| alterego | ZogG_laptop: no, mer is rpm, so anything based on mer is rpm too. | 12:47 |
| alterego | Feel free to start a med project though :P | 12:47 |
| alterego | Not that I'm saying the 'r' in mer stands for rpm ;) | 12:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | i do not want deb | 12:48 |
| alterego | Or maybe der would be better, | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | meer-der | 12:48 |
| dm8tbr | 'meego deconstructed' ... ;) | 12:48 |
| alterego | lol | 12:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm interested how chromeOS took portage and uses it for binaries based distro =) | 12:48 |
| alterego | mer deconstructed more like :P | 12:48 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: well after merDE didn't happen... | 12:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | merde sounds lke french =) | 12:49 |
| dm8tbr | ZogG_laptop: yes, we had meego developer edition, but somehow renamed to 'community edition' later on and then to 'nemo' | 12:49 |
| * dm8tbr ran the poll for the naming of the latter one | 12:50 | |
| alterego | Still remembers the funny discussions we had about what to name MeeGo CE | 12:50 |
| dm8tbr | yes 'merde' was also among the proposals. if you're curious, the data is still out there | 12:50 |
| alterego | I think CE was my idea too :P | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: fe looks stalled | 12:52 |
| anidel | vdso is worth disabling before mic creating? | 12:52 |
| alterego | Not sure what Nemo was supposed to mean. | 12:52 |
| alterego | Ne-Mobile? | 12:52 |
| alterego | n.e. mobile? | 12:52 |
| anidel | Nemo = no name ? possibly, buh, no idea :D | 12:53 |
| dm8tbr | nemo as in captain nemo | 12:53 |
| anidel | that is Captain with no name indeed. | 12:53 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: it's not RAM | 12:53 |
| lbt | which is news | 12:53 |
| lbt | Mem: 1538216k total, 1374636k used | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 12:53 |
| dm8tbr | it's part of the whole 'sea' theme of 'mer' (in some languages it actually means sea) | 12:53 |
| lbt | Swap: 2097148k total, 46020k used | 12:54 |
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| Stskeeps | alterego: Nemo tries to project a stern, controlled confidence, but he is driven by a thirst for vengeance and a hatred of imperialism (particularly the British Empire) and wracked by remorse over the deaths of his crew members and even by the deaths of enemy sailors. | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | does it, sound familiar? | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:54 |
| alterego | Nemo hates me :( | 12:54 |
| Termana | Sounds like your teenage years | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: isn't canada part of british empire? ;) | 12:55 |
| alterego | What has Canada got to do with me? :P | 12:55 |
| anidel | only british columbia :p | 12:55 |
| alterego | lol | 12:55 |
| alterego | They're seemingly more french, though they do love "The Queen". | 12:55 |
| anidel | who canadians? don't tell them that! unless they come from Quebec | 12:56 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: will you follow up on it, or check if OBS upstream has any fixes in this area? | 12:57 |
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| astro72 | ahh, i just waited about 5 mins with a black screen (it went past the boot screen) and after that backlight was turned off. I pressed enter 1 time and backlight was lit again but nothin' else happens :P | 12:58 |
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| Stskeeps | anidel: do you have a linux box? | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | eerrr | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | astro72: | 12:58 |
| anidel | :) | 12:59 |
| alterego | astro72: try tapping power button again until backlight is on, then tap the screen. | 13:01 |
| alterego | It can take a while for the lock screen to show up. | 13:01 |
| alterego | And you might have been unlucky with your SD card purchase :P | 13:02 |
| astro72 | aargh, can't be real. I have handful of 8Gb cards but they're all class 4 and the reason i bought one today was because i wanted to try class 6 if it's any better | 13:03 |
| anidel | is there a quicker way to search thru IRC chat logs? | 13:04 |
| alterego | iirc class 6 isn't much of an improvement for read speeds over 4, but 10 probably is. But I might be wrong, I thought C6 had better write speeds, but not better read speeds. | 13:04 |
| alterego | Again, I can't remember if I'm right or not with that information ;) | 13:04 |
| dm8tbr | anidel: I thought google indexes them? | 13:05 |
| Frye | I'm running nemo from class 4 and I have to say I like the response | 13:05 |
| Frye | It's not lightning fast but not too slow either. | 13:05 |
| alterego | Frye: yeah, I use C4 and works fine for me :) | 13:05 |
| Frye | I do remember the mer on N900 and N810 form some years back =) | 13:05 |
| dm8tbr | anidel: also I didn't enable the built in search functionality of the irc logger as that can have heavy impact on the machine load. that machine does other stuff too, so... | 13:05 |
| Frye | It was much slower then | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | Frye: it was software rendering, naturally it was slow ;) | 13:05 |
| Frye | Yep | 13:06 |
| Frye | I know why it was slow =) | 13:06 |
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| anidel | dm8tbr: right, no problem | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | Frye: btw, i think i forgot, but just wanted to welcome you here :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time | 13:07 |
| alterego | And that was before llvm | 13:07 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: it looks like it's actually blocked on the be | 13:08 |
| dm8tbr | anidel: you can always mirror that directory and use grep :) | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: interesting | 13:08 |
| alterego | Has anyone tried doing meego settings plugins in QML? | 13:08 |
| alterego | Maybe just port meego settings completely to QML .. | 13:09 |
| lbt | ERROR|# 9912] Could not load all frontpage data, probably due to forbidden anonymous access in the api. | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: feel free to tamper | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps scheduler died again | 13:09 |
| lbt | ok | 13:10 |
| anidel | yay, the new N950 just landed onto my desk | 13:10 |
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| Frye | Stskeeps, Thanks. I've already helped myself over here =) | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | Frye: good :) | 13:11 |
| Frye | And now that I have N9 as my main phone I can easily hack with the N900. | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | hello _Razor_ :) | 13:11 |
| _Razor_ | Hi | 13:11 |
| alterego | anidel: the new N950 can fly?! | 13:11 |
| lbt | publish failed: 500 remote error: remote error Internal Server Error | 13:12 |
| anidel | only way to make it in less than a day from Tampere to my desk, yes, it's by flying :P | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | _Razor_: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 13:12 |
| _Razor_ | Jolla :) | 13:12 |
| alterego | What's Jolla? | 13:12 |
| * alterego chuckles | 13:12 | |
| _Razor_ | :D | 13:12 |
| anidel | a boat | 13:13 |
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| Stskeeps | _Razor_: cool :) if you want to ask any questions about Mer, the core that Jolla (and other companies uses), feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute, else feel free to hang out and learn :) | 13:14 |
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| _Razor_ | Stskeeps: Ok, thanks. I like to follow first what is going on here and then see if I have my part to say | 13:17 |
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| Stskeeps | _Razor_: sure :) | 13:18 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: what's odd is that restarting fe fixes it | 13:18 |
| Frye | Hmm, I have a broken sim in the phone. top bar is showing the plane mode icon all the time, but in the settings flight mode is off | 13:19 |
| Frye | when I turn flight mode on and exit settings and go back the flight mode is off again | 13:19 |
| lbt | Frye: FYI that's mainly a #nemomobile issue | 13:20 |
| Frye | Ok, so its the UX not the core issue? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:20 |
| Frye | I'll head over there. Takes a while for me to get to know what is handled where =) Try to bare with me | 13:21 |
| lbt | np | 13:21 |
| alterego | Right, I need to nip out to a meeting. | 13:23 |
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| Sage_ | alterego: I have new ofono packaged at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=ofono&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 13:24 |
| Sage_ | alterego: it has issues with n950 modem at least as I didn't manage to get it working yet. | 13:24 |
| alterego | Sage_: awesome, I'll look at that tomorrow when I get back in to dialer work. | 13:24 |
| Sage_ | alterego: I'll see if phonesim works with the ofono and if that could be used for testing basic functionalities | 13:25 |
| alterego | Sage_: how have you been testing? test scripts? | 13:26 |
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| Sage_ | alterego: yes test scripts | 13:28 |
| alterego | Sage_: ah, okay. Well I'll poke around tomorrow, maybe even this evening if I get a chance. | 13:29 |
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| alterego | Anyway, I'm out for a bit, bbl. | 13:31 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I tried killing/restarting various bits including memcached, mysql and even the apache httpd processes - only thing that helped was passenger | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:31 |
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| Stskeeps | welcome back, psior :) | 13:32 |
| lbt | dispatcher is unhappy btw | 13:32 |
| lbt | Job can not be assigned on i586 due to lack of powerhosts: Core:test5:i486::Core_i486::qt-2d0b6727bd73b08daa069ebb88aef169# | 13:33 |
| psior | Cheers Stskeeps :-) | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: that's funny | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: phost4 is a powerhost | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: .. oh, that probably no longer has that hack | 13:33 |
| lbt | BSConfig? | 13:33 |
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| lbt | OK ... it should be good for a while ... need to pop out for 45min... will carry on later | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes bsconfig | 13:34 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: why would compiling an object file and then linking record the cwd in the resulting .o and .so | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: libtool insanity involved? | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: debug paths? | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | see if things change -g vs not -g | 13:38 |
| phaeron | no libtool , ruby generates a makefile and make compiles stuff | 13:39 |
| phaeron | can do -g | 13:39 |
| phaeron | let's see | 13:39 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: without -g the cwd doesn't get recorded | 13:42 |
| phaeron | so .. | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: that's quite interesting | 13:43 |
| Sage_ | alterego: I packaged phonesim also that seems to work so you can emulate modem with that when doing the UI | 13:43 |
| phaeron | good because I was going crazy and sage went crazy already | 13:43 |
| phaeron | Sage_: ^^ | 13:43 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: so the solution is to ... modify CFLAGS ? | 13:43 |
| phaeron | or do two compilation runs ? or what | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: can you somehow make the compilation stuff show actual command lines? | 13:44 |
| phaeron | yep | 13:44 |
| Sage_ | ... | 13:45 |
| phaeron | http://pastie.org/4237834 | 13:46 |
| phaeron | without -g | 13:46 |
| phaeron | manually removed | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: do you have static libraries in ruby somewhere? | 13:46 |
| phaeron | Sage_: you did the upper layer | 13:47 |
| phaeron | or lower | 13:47 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: ? | 13:47 |
| phaeron | Sage_: see Stskeeps's question | 13:47 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I don't think so, but not sure. | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: just if you have any .a files from ruby | 13:49 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you mean linked to ruby or in compile env? | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | in rpms ruby package generates | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | or .c files, or .h files | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | that are in the ruby .rpm | 13:50 |
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| phaeron | ok let me see | 13:53 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: no .c .h or .a files | 13:54 |
| Sage_ | my internet is breaking again :/ | 13:55 |
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| phaeron | pm -qf /usr/lib/libruby1.9-static.a | 13:59 |
| phaeron | ruby19-devel-1.9.3.p194-4.1.i486 | 13:59 |
| phaeron | *rpm | 13:59 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: | 13:59 |
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| Stskeeps | interesting | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | does it utilize this in build? | 14:00 |
| Sage_ | actually that gem does | 14:00 |
| Sage_ | it needed ruby-devel xml-devel and xslt-devel IIRC | 14:00 |
| phaeron | LIBRUBY_A = lib$(RUBY_SO_NAME)-static.a | 14:01 |
| phaeron | LIBRUBYARG_STATIC = -l$(RUBY_SO_NAME)-static | 14:01 |
| phaeron | only for static target though | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | right, enough ideas from me? | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | i'll get on with something else then :) | 14:01 |
| phaeron | thanks, I'll try to fix it | 14:02 |
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| anidel | is there any documentation and/or list of "@" packages in .ks files? I know I am asking for the moon | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | anidel: that's package groups | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | i can give you list for Mer, at least | 14:20 |
| anidel | yeah that was "clear", just where do I find their content | 14:20 |
| anidel | which packages they group | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=tree;f=patterns;h=44d3531bfe4e207de4c8c839eda765c9b5671bf5;hb=HEAD | 14:20 |
| anidel | so it will be converted into lower case and spaces into - ? | 14:21 |
| anidel | yup by the look of it | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | i think Description: is what it is | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=tree is mer, fwiw | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:22 |
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| anidel | ok | 14:23 |
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| anidel | so they're called patterns | 14:24 |
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| Sage_ | alterego: I have phonesim packaged as well. For some reason it doesn't start properly before you do "systemctl restart ofono.service" after starting it. | 14:25 |
| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: Mer also works on intel chips? didnt know that! cool!! :) | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | shrikrishna: even MIPS! | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: your twitter skills are insane | 14:26 |
| jukkaeklund | wow | 14:26 |
| * shrikrishna is reading MIPS wiki | 14:27 | |
| jukkaeklund | I am insane :p | 14:27 |
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| jukkaeklund | but thanks, stskeeps | 14:27 |
| jukkaeklund | constructive critisism very welcome too | 14:28 |
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| w00t | jukkaeklund: i think you're definitely doing something right ;) | 14:28 |
| jukkaeklund | thanks | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: i think you might be up for most successful finnish launch award ;) | 14:28 |
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| shrikrishna | Stskeeps: so basically, you can install mer based OS on a gaming console too... :P That's uber cool you know! | 14:28 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, hehe | 14:32 |
| jukkaeklund | seriously, it's the whole team and I just execute | 14:32 |
| anidel | lbt: so, to provide a minimal for N950-N9 I changed the CE:/Adaptation:/N900/CE... to CE:/Adaptation:/N950-N9/Ce... and used @Nokia N950 Support and Proprietary Support whilst using kernel-adaptation-n950, that should make it run on the N950. In the end I had to simply change N900 to N950 except in the ce-adaptation-n900 repo whereas it had to be changed to N950-N9 | 14:32 |
| anidel | hi jukka | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: yeah, still :) | 14:33 |
| jukkaeklund | anidel, hi! | 14:34 |
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| anidel | much appreciated what you guys are doing...really looking forward to see what's in the pipeline | 14:36 |
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| jukkaeklund | thanks | 14:40 |
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| mja | really big thumbs up from here as well o/ | 14:50 |
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| jukkaeklund | thanks | 14:54 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: fe dead again already? | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i didn't touch it | 15:01 |
| lbt | this is silly | 15:01 |
| lbt | nb having ridiculous weather here ... 3cm rain in 30m whilst we were out | 15:02 |
| lbt | may well lose power again ... just FYI | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:02 |
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| alterego | It's good that people are being hesitant about having really high expectations too. Which is positive. | 15:18 |
| alterego | Unlike all the Nokia Maemo/MeeGo launches, where people would be "It's going to have X woo!" then they came out and "No X? No Y? Why didn't they just bodge Y in?! Y?!?!" :) | 15:19 |
| Sage_ | alterego: phonesim seems to work with new ofono so you should have something to test the new ofono with :) | 15:19 |
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| alterego | Groovy | 15:19 |
| alterego | Sage_: is the n950 modem issue a known one? | 15:20 |
| anidel | lbt: it's sunny now in Chiswick, but has been rainy/sunny/rainy the whole day | 15:20 |
| alterego | I think I heard mention of it before somewhere. | 15:20 |
| Sage_ | alterego: not in upstream at least as the n950 modem patch isn't in upstream | 15:20 |
| alterego | kay, | 15:21 |
| alterego | I don't know of a fix, just remember hearing someone saying that it was busted on N9/50 | 15:21 |
| Sage_ | well, I'm starting to think my modem broke on my n950 :P | 15:21 |
| alterego | :/ | 15:21 |
| alterego | I'd imagine that's not a trivial thing to do. | 15:21 |
| alterego | Why do you think it's broken? | 15:22 |
| Sage_ | it responded at first but then it just went mute and disappeared :D | 15:22 |
| mja | fingers crossed my n950 lasts until jollaphones appear | 15:22 |
| Sage_ | reboot doesn't help either | 15:22 |
| alterego | Eek, well, I'm sure if you spoke to qgil or launchpad you could get a replacement. | 15:22 |
| anidel | ville.moisio@nokia.com | 15:23 |
| anidel | he is the guys from DAS | 15:23 |
| Sage_ | booting harmattan now to check if that works there :) | 15:23 |
| anidel | you need to speak to in order to have a replacement. Mine got sent yesterday arrived at my desk few hours ago | 15:23 |
| anidel | *the guy | 15:23 |
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| Sage_ | ok, so works in harmattan so only ofono broken | 15:24 |
| alterego | :) | 15:24 |
| anidel | better to have it broken in sw | 15:24 |
| Sage_ | yes | 15:25 |
| alterego | Anyone else get a follow from AT&T Developer? | 15:25 |
| Sage_ | alterego: ? | 15:25 |
| alterego | Just been getting a lot of random followers on twitter after the Jolla annoucement on Saturday | 15:26 |
| alterego | Sort of like, people have some automatic script which takes the people that Jolla are following and they follow them as well :P | 15:27 |
| alterego | I remember once I got followed by some make-up artist randomly, and for a week I'd get about 2 followers a day that had that kind of stuff on their profiles .. | 15:29 |
| alterego | Actually she was a model & photographer .. | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: with your long hair, i'm sure they just thought you were another model | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 15:30 |
| alterego | lol | 15:30 |
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| * Stskeeps misses having long hair :( | 15:30 | |
| alterego | I like your beard? | 15:30 |
| psior | alterego: most probably twitter spam bots | 15:30 |
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| slaine | Where are the rpm defaults for the likes of %{libdir} defined ? | 15:31 |
| slaine | I want to see what ones are available | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | rpmrc or macros | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | /usr/lib/rpm | 15:31 |
| alterego | I follow maybe 100 people, which I think is quite small, why would people want to fill up their feeds with random crap like that :) | 15:31 |
| alterego | Maybe I'd consider it if we had those Google headsets and I just had a constant twitter stream going past my eyes :S | 15:32 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: yeah, looked, couldn't spot them | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | isn't it _libdir, though? | 15:33 |
| slaine | Ah, macros in there, missed it somehow | 15:33 |
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| Stskeeps | hello tomageeni :) | 15:55 |
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| tomageeni | Stskeeps: well, hello for you too. :) | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | tomageeni: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? :) | 15:56 |
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| tomageeni | Stskeeps: nothing special, just following the discussion. naturally jolla-case brings some extra interest in the project | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | tomageeni: sure :) if you have any questions about Mer, feel free to ask at any time, or on how to contribute, else feel free to hang out and learn/watch :) | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | tomageeni: #jollamobile is a good place for jolla discussions too | 16:05 |
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| astro72 | Yippee! I got Nemo to work with my 4Gb class 6 card, I just had to run all card formatting etc. thingies with my Win7 -laptop :D | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | astro72: cool! | 16:06 |
| astro72 | so WinXP was a no-go | 16:06 |
| astro72 | i assume my class4 cards would've worked as well with Win7 | 16:06 |
| astro72 | but now i got the system up & running yay! | 16:07 |
| astro72 | next i'll be getting familiar with the system, then bugzilla i guess ;) | 16:09 |
| astro72 | but before that i'll be going to playground with my daughter, c ya later! | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | enjoy :0 | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 16:09 |
| alterego | lol, Jolla on Mer, makes perfect sense now :D | 16:12 |
| anidel | lbt!!! got N950 working with minimal :D | 16:12 |
| anidel | Welcome to Mer :p | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: Nemo, submarine.. | 16:12 |
| anidel | at first try :) me happy | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:12 |
| lbt | anidel: excellent | 16:12 |
| lbt | want to send me the ks | 16:12 |
| anidel | sure hang on | 16:13 |
| lbt | merge to github if you like | 16:13 |
| alterego | or fish, or captain :p | 16:14 |
| lbt | anidel: did it have the wavy text changing colour? | 16:14 |
| w00tmob | just so long as there arent any sharks | 16:14 |
| anidel | yup it has | 16:15 |
| lbt | good stuff - that makes 2 ... and exopc should be easy too | 16:15 |
| lbt | then a VM would be ideal | 16:16 |
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| anidel | hope I am doing it right in gist :0 | 16:17 |
| anidel | do you see it: git://gist.github.com/3091503.git | 16:18 |
| anidel | is yours still there? | 16:18 |
| anidel | i created a fork, right way to do it ? | 16:19 |
| lbt | ah, I see | 16:19 |
| lbt | ideally you'd fork https://github.com/lbt/mer-minimal | 16:20 |
| anidel | ops :) | 16:20 |
| lbt | and add that file as n950/minimal-n950.ks | 16:20 |
| lbt | I was being lazy with the gist yesterday | 16:20 |
| anidel | yeah right, still new to github and co | 16:20 |
| lbt | scarily powerful | 16:21 |
| anidel | even though we're using it in the lab I still need to grasp it fully | 16:21 |
| anidel | oh lbt, I guess you know already, I created a rootfs and copied over onto Alt_OS. | 16:25 |
| lbt | standard n950 flashing ? | 16:26 |
| anidel | moslo dual boot | 16:26 |
| anidel | haven't tried flashing | 16:26 |
| anidel | but should work | 16:26 |
| lbt | bad terminology | 16:26 |
| anidel | i can try on the N950 that's going to be shipping back to home base | 16:26 |
| lbt | on my part | 16:26 |
| anidel | *shipped | 16:27 |
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| anidel | ok, basically installed modified moslo, got the alternate OS partition , copied over the new rootfs created with this minimal, booted from there | 16:27 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950 | 16:28 |
| anidel | yep, the Dual Boot one | 16:28 |
| lbt | I plan to break that page up to be more generic HW adaptations for Mer with notes for any specific UXes | 16:28 |
| anidel | ok, in the end is same as single method, but i told moslo to repartition my MMC so that I still have Harmattan | 16:29 |
| lbt | I need to reload H to my N950 - I've been exclusive Nemo | 16:30 |
| anidel | H? | 16:30 |
| lbt | harmattan | 16:30 |
| anidel | k | 16:30 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: seem to have found a trigger - looks possibly auth related | 16:30 |
| lbt | dropped workers right down; hammered at main page anonymously and it was fine | 16:31 |
| lbt | did a login ... hangs | 16:31 |
| phaeron | ldap connection issue ? | 16:32 |
| lbt | netstat doesn't show anything | 16:32 |
| lbt | The proxy server could not handle the request POST /user/do_login. | 16:33 |
| lbt | but why? Nothing has changed recently | 16:34 |
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| Stskeeps | hello mtd :) | 16:37 |
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| lbt | goddam thing is fine now | 16:50 |
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| lbt | I have an infinte loop running osc for api and curl to webui .... meanwhile browsing webui to ger build results etc etc | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i can do a copyprj to see if it triggers it | 16:51 |
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| lbt | well, it's been dying all afternoon withoug | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | that's rue | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | true | 16:52 |
| lbt | try browsing | 16:52 |
| lbt | it's also set to only have 2 passenger workers for api/webui | 16:53 |
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| Stskeeps | i'll kick off a projectcopy | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | and see if that causes it to go mad | 16:54 |
| lbt | yep | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | POST http://api-ci.tspre.org/source/Core:0.20120719.0.0.x:i486?comment=foo&withhistory=1&oproject=Core%3Ai486&cmd=copy&withprjconf=1&withbinaries=1&nodelay=1 | 16:54 |
| lbt | yep, it did not like that | 16:55 |
| lbt | assuming you sent it? | 16:55 |
| lbt | logs just stopped dead | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | i sent it | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/4238836 | 16:57 |
| lbt | before you pastied here? | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | it timed out after i pastied | 16:57 |
| lbt | let me be clear.... I saw your irc message : 11/07/2012 17:54] <Stskeeps> POST http://api-ci.tspre. ..... and almost at that instant the logs stopped dead | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's when i started the command | 16:58 |
| lbt | so did you send that *before* you pasted it to irc or after? | 16:58 |
| anidel | going home..ttyl | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | and posted you POST from it | 16:58 |
| lbt | anidel: o/ | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | then it timed out | 16:58 |
| anidel | \o | 16:58 |
| lbt | OK, makes sense | 16:58 |
| phaeron | time out can be because the proxy server breaks the connection | 16:59 |
| phaeron | the request still running in the backend ? | 16:59 |
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| lbt | phaeron: kinda hard to tell | 17:02 |
| lbt | not much in the way of logging | 17:02 |
| lbt | I'm going to suggest we rollback the current OBS deployment to the last mer 2.3.1-mer1 | 17:02 |
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| lbt | and see if that's stable | 17:02 |
| lbt | then do a build of this code and try again | 17:03 |
| lbt | it seemed to be fine under 2.3.1-mer1 | 17:03 |
| lbt | for quite a while.... agreed? | 17:03 |
| phaeron | these hangs were there before I wrote the new code :) | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | what phaeron said | 17:04 |
| lbt | OK | 17:04 |
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| phaeron | but if you want to be sure then go ahead :) | 17:04 |
| lbt | no | 17:04 |
| lbt | waste of time | 17:04 |
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| Sage_ | oh, N900 isn't recognized properly on USB3 port | 17:08 |
| mtd | Stskeeps: hello! | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | mtd: welcome :] so what brings you here to #mer ? | 17:08 |
| mtd | Stskeeps: hopes of a new phone to replace my N950 when the LCD gives up completely :) | 17:09 |
| * mtd is in Android ... land. | 17:09 | |
| Stskeeps | mtd: hehe :) cool. if you have any questions about Mer, or on how to contribute to it, feel free to ask, else feel free to hang out | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | mtd: i guess Jolla might be of interest, #jollamobile | 17:09 |
| mtd | Stskeeps: yeah, just hanging out after seeing the topic in #jollamobile | 17:10 |
| lbt | phaeron: 2.3.2 has projectcopy changes | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | mtd: alright :) | 17:11 |
| phaeron | lbt: from upstream ? | 17:12 |
| lbt | yes | 17:12 |
| phaeron | ok will have a look | 17:12 |
| phaeron | which branch should I rebase on | 17:12 |
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| lbt | upstream/2.3 at tag 2.3.2 | 17:14 |
| lbt | 4fe0e9c5092e52d188dde7b5510ffa7e9d321419 | 17:14 |
| lbt | seems like the only sensible thing to do at this point | 17:15 |
| lbt | I can't see anything in the logs that makes any sense hang-wise | 17:15 |
| lbt | I can't even tell where the hang is happening | 17:15 |
| phaeron | you can stress test that | 17:15 |
| lbt | I did | 17:15 |
| phaeron | I mean upstream | 17:15 |
| lbt | in what way? | 17:16 |
| lbt | we have no test system :/ | 17:16 |
| phaeron | I mean try to reproduce the hang using 2.3.2 | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | if you get packages, we can do it, i guess? | 17:16 |
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| phaeron | anyway gtg home | 17:17 |
| lbt | rebase to 2.3.2 looks painful | 17:17 |
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| phaeron | that many changes in +.1 stable ? | 17:19 |
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| lbt | no - but in prjcopy | 17:19 |
| phaeron | if it is , I'll just create new api | 17:20 |
| lbt | hmm may not be as bad as I thought - much of the patch is in fixtures | 17:20 |
| phaeron | it's a rewrite anyway | 17:20 |
| phaeron | ok | 17:20 |
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| Stskeeps | hello harriv :) | 17:23 |
| harriv | hello | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | harriv: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 17:24 |
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| harriv | Stskeeps: well, jolla raised my interest about what's going on with mer.. :) | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | harriv: excellent :) if you have any questions on Mer, or would like to know how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | harriv: else feel free to hang out and just learn/watch | 17:28 |
| harriv | Stskeeps: thanks.. I'll start with hanging out :) | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | excellent | 17:29 |
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| Stskeeps | hey rodaaave :) | 17:34 |
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| Stskeeps | deztructor: did you ever see Lipstick, btw? | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | hi Vortiago :) | 17:46 |
| Vortiago | Hey | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | Vortiago: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 17:47 |
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| Vortiago | The topic on #jollamobile. | 17:51 |
| Vortiago | :p | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, good answer ;) | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | Vortiago: if you have any questions on Mer, or would like to know how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | else feel free to hang out and watch/learn/etc | 17:51 |
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| Vortiago | Will keep that in mind. | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so what's the hypothesis on stalls ? | 17:53 |
| lbt | it's broken | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | yess..? | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:54 |
| lbt | there are no error messages, no ability to reproduce, no logs.... | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | strace? | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:55 |
| rodaaave | hey :) sry I went away, forgetting to set my status to "away" | 17:55 |
| lbt | strace would be fine if we could reproduce | 17:56 |
| lbt | but we can't run the whole thing like that | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: well, i can give you admin rights | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | so you can copyprj | 17:56 |
| lbt | it's not that though | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | rodaaave: hehe, no problem :) so what makes you come around to #mer ? | 17:56 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: go on though , lets see | 17:58 |
| rodaaave | the same as Vortiago :) | 17:58 |
| rodaaave | and I want to follow mer/jolla's dvpement | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: copyprj started | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | rodaaave: alright :) well, as i said to him, if there's anything, just ask :) | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | we're more than happy to help anybody get started | 17:58 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, did this channel have more than 300 users already? | 17:59 |
| mikhas | more than 500? | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: i think we're at our top atm | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | 222 | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | core isn't always sexy :) | 17:59 |
| chouchoune | core is lovely | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | chouchoune: how's your challenges going btw? | 18:01 |
| chouchoune | (that works only in french actually ;)) | 18:01 |
| chouchoune | Stskeeps: second submission ;) | 18:01 |
| chouchoune | http://review.merproject.org/#change,655 | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah cool | 18:01 |
| rodaaave | Stskeeps: thanks :D | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | sorry for the CI machinery not being up, we're working hard on it | 18:01 |
| lbt | so Stskeeps copyprj complete? | 18:02 |
| lbt | CI is still up | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | POST http://api-ci.tspre.org/source/Core:0.20120719.0.0.y:i486?comment=foo&withhistory=1&oproject=Core%3Ai486&cmd=copy&withprjconf=1&withbinaries=1&nodelay=1 | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | Failed to reach a server: | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | timed out | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's ongoing atm i think | 18:02 |
| Sage_ | chouchoune: looks good now ;) | 18:02 |
| chouchoune | Sage_: you did the first review ? | 18:02 |
| * Sage_ is Marko Saukko | 18:02 | |
| Sage_ | chouchoune: so yes | 18:02 |
| chouchoune | (I don't know the matching names-nicknames except for Stskeeps and lbt ;)) | 18:03 |
| chouchoune | ok, good to know | 18:03 |
| * lbt takes deep breath .... | 18:03 | |
| * iekku is iekku | 18:03 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ? | 18:03 |
| iekku | :D | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: still copying on be | 18:04 |
| lbt | going back to look some more ... but it's really annoying :/ | 18:04 |
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| Sage_ | chouchoune: mark the bug RESOLVED-FIXED and put the url there and you are done :) | 18:05 |
| Sage_ | chouchoune: if the thing compiles in review. | 18:06 |
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| chouchoune | huuuu, I thought I already marked it as resolved | 18:14 |
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| chouchoune | Sage_: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342 | 18:15 |
| chouchoune | isn't it OK ? | 18:15 |
| chouchoune | I have the interface in french but as far as I know, "RESOLU CORRIGE" means "RESOLVED FIXED" | 18:17 |
| Sage_ | chouchoune: oh, it is ok. sry | 18:19 |
| chouchoune | no problem, just checking ;) | 18:19 |
| chouchoune | so ... let's pick a new bug ;) | 18:20 |
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| merder | you probably are aware that the certificates in bugs.merproject.org and wiki.merproject.org are broken? | 18:21 |
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| chouchoune | broken ? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | merder: no, just self-signed | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | big difference :) | 18:23 |
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| merder | self-signed not trusted and the certificate is only applicable to bugs subdomain, not wiki | 18:23 |
| dm8tbr | i believe they are just self signed | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | merder: hmmm | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | merder: so wiki gives you the bugs cert? | 18:23 |
| chouchoune | on wiki.merproject.org | 18:23 |
| chouchoune | I see a certificate for that subdomain | 18:24 |
| chouchoune | not trusted is normal ... as self signed | 18:24 |
| merder | yes i know, thats why i said self signed :P | 18:25 |
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| merder | Stskeeps: actually looks like wiki is giving me the right certificate | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | but bugs isn'T? | 18:27 |
| merder | both are | 18:27 |
| merder | but not for this service: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=bugs.merproject.org https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=wiki.merproject.org | 18:27 |
| chouchoune | weird | 18:29 |
| chouchoune | firefox tells me wiki.merproject.org has the right one | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: do we use many-ssl-per-ip? | 18:29 |
| lbt | yes | 18:30 |
| lbt | merder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication | 18:32 |
| merder | yeah, i know, i guess these services just dont support sni then | 18:34 |
| lbt | thanks for the pointers though | 18:34 |
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| lbt | I'm surprised it doesn't show TLS>1.0 | 18:34 |
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| merder | or its just a compatibility problem with your site | 18:38 |
| chouchoune | for the SNI, no, it's the same for me | 18:39 |
| chouchoune | cf. domain name adherents.ndn-fai.fr => certificate mail.chouchoune.fr | 18:40 |
| chouchoune | and it's the same for TLS>1 for me | 18:41 |
| merder | no i meant between that service and your site | 18:41 |
| chouchoune | I mean, it's between that service and every site ;) | 18:42 |
| merder | oh yeah, i think i have tested a site there that had sni though | 18:46 |
| merder | just some bug i guess | 18:46 |
| lbt | they basically say why at the bottom of the page | 18:47 |
| lbt | no self-signed | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | * New packages got not detected, when using project project links to a remote OBS instance. | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | oh thank god | 18:47 |
| lbt | 2.3.2 | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | 2.3.3 | 18:47 |
| phaeron | is that similar to my fix ? :D | 18:48 |
| lbt | $watch = "package/$ev->{'project'}" unless defined $watchremote->{$watch}; | 18:48 |
| lbt | 10.110.0.3 - - [11/Jul/2012:20:48:30 +0200] "GET /error/HTTP_BAD_GATEWAY.html.var HTTP/1.1" 200 990 | 18:50 |
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| phaeron | ok so another unrelated bug | 18:50 |
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| vgrade | nice looking Mer target board, http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php | 18:56 |
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| Stskeeps | indeed, if it comes with ubuntu too | 18:57 |
| vgrade | make or break on kernel source and gpu support as usual | 19:00 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: just FYI we're doing a complete reconfig on CI | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, as long as you don't raze the dbs, fine | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | or any of the build projects | 19:37 |
| lbt | no, all the urls etc | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:37 |
| phaeron | that's was my first suggestion | 19:37 |
| phaeron | :D | 19:37 |
| lbt | phaeron: LDAP later too | 19:37 |
| phaeron | yeah | 19:37 |
| lbt | ok options.yml for api | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | api.ci.merproject? | 19:38 |
| lbt | yes | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | do i need to assign admin to any of you? | 19:39 |
| lbt | no, we can probably do that if needed | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | .. yeah, ok | 19:39 |
| lbt | or we'll yell | 19:39 |
| lbt | phaeron: eww | 19:40 |
| phaeron | how did that happen | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | whatdidyoudo | 19:40 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: you can see a dcp diff later :) | 19:40 |
| phaeron | we are reviewing the config in a shared screen , and I found a weird setting | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | ook | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:41 |
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| lbt | and we thought we'd work here to make you nervous | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | which? | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm so dead in the head right now you could be slapping me with trouts and i wouldn't care | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:41 |
| lbt | yeah, I was until phaeron cheered me up :) | 19:41 |
| * phaeron throws a gem -g at Stskeeps | 19:41 | |
| lbt | phaeron: on a properly vlan'ed sytem that'd be on a dedicated vlan | 19:42 |
| phaeron | what's that .. this is a .yml file not basj | 19:44 |
| phaeron | bash | 19:44 |
| lbt | hmm | 19:44 |
| lbt | that's taken from the appliance setup | 19:44 |
| lbt | but yeah | 19:45 |
| lbt | it must be eval'ed as part of the bash redirection ... it's inside " not ' | 19:45 |
| lbt | ta | 19:46 |
| lbt | ok | 19:46 |
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| lbt | anything else? | 19:50 |
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| phaeron | nope | 19:52 |
| lbt | 14490 :( | 19:54 |
| lbt | Cannot load person data for Admin in application_helper | 19:55 |
| lbt | [Sun May 13 13:04:15 2012] [error] [client 10.110.0.3] Premature end of script headers: | 19:55 |
| lbt | Directory index forbidden by Options directive: /srv/www/obs/webui/public/ | 19:55 |
| phaeron | directory index is ok never mind that | 19:56 |
| phaeron | do we have links ? run it in separate screen | 19:56 |
| lbt | links? lynx? | 19:56 |
| phaeron | links | 19:56 |
| phaeron | whicever , I like elinks | 19:57 |
| lbt | sec | 19:57 |
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| phaeron | lbt: can we check db config and do a rake migrate just in case ? | 19:57 |
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| lbt | back | 20:23 |
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| lbt | (phone call from aunt) | 20:23 |
| lbt | be is not on localhost | 20:23 |
| lbt | phaeron: ^^ | 20:23 |
| moo-_- | aunt of localhosts | 20:23 |
| phaeron | yes I know | 20:24 |
| phaeron | :) | 20:25 |
| lbt | webui? | 20:25 |
| lbt | it's build | 20:25 |
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| phaeron | doesn't matter | 20:26 |
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| lbt | so ... what are you doing? | 20:31 |
| lbt | can we please change webui to build | 20:32 |
| lbt | not the other way around | 20:32 |
| phaeron | lbt: it's just a local alias | 20:33 |
| lbt | no, it's in main DNS | 20:33 |
| phaeron | lbt: I am trying to get all comms on loop device | 20:33 |
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| phaeron | because network seems to be stalling imho. routing or firewall botched | 20:33 |
| lbt | sure - but it also needs to respond to main DNS on build | 20:33 |
| phaeron | lbt: I put that alias in /etc/host | 20:33 |
| phaeron | lbt: I didn't remove the servername , I added a serveralias, it will respond toboth | 20:34 |
| phaeron | see :) | 20:34 |
| phaeron | lbt: there you go , should be fixed | 20:35 |
| phaeron | unless the comms to backend are broken too | 20:35 |
| phaeron | lbt: how do you exit emacs :D | 20:35 |
| lbt | ^x^c | 20:36 |
| phaeron | but I don't want to save | 20:37 |
| lbt | you didn't | 20:37 |
| phaeron | ok thanks | 20:37 |
| lbt | it reverted | 20:37 |
| lbt | ie read the on-disk | 20:37 |
| phaeron | ok | 20:37 |
| phaeron | so lets check if it still works | 20:37 |
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| lbt | unlikely to | 20:38 |
| lbt | needs web first | 20:39 |
| phaeron | what do you mean | 20:39 |
| phaeron | so backend at least is working | 20:39 |
| lbt | i need the www reverse proxy setup | 20:41 |
| phaeron | imho there's something wrong in the route to reverse proxy | 20:42 |
| lbt | internet->phost->iptables->www->'fe' | 20:43 |
| lbt | internet->phost->iptables-(ssl)>www-(http)>'fe' | 20:43 |
| lbt | we haven't done www yet | 20:43 |
| lbt | we're not doing ssl yet | 20:43 |
| phaeron | I am not using ssl | 20:44 |
| lbt | I know | 20:45 |
| lbt | yet | 20:45 |
| lbt | just editing it | 20:45 |
| anidel_home | hi | 20:45 |
| lbt | o/ | 20:45 |
| anidel_home | \o | 20:45 |
| anidel_home | the minimal-n900-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 can be flashed straight to the N900's MMC? | 20:46 |
| lbt | phaeron: "Timeout occurred" | 20:46 |
| lbt | anidel_home: we never suggest mmc flashing | 20:47 |
| lbt | almost no gain (usually a loss) and reasonable risk | 20:47 |
| anidel_home | yeah but I've got a legacy N900 who is now dead (as I don't have its firmware), so wanted to see if Mer can revive it | 20:47 |
| anidel_home | legacy = proto | 20:47 |
| lbt | that's a question for Sage or Stskeeps in the morning then | 20:48 |
| anidel_home | unfortunately it doesn't have uboot installed...so unless it can be flashed, I see no other way to try to make good use of it | 20:48 |
| anidel_home | let's see | 20:48 |
| norayr | anidel_home: why don't you download firmware for n900 and reflash it first with stock firmware? | 20:48 |
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| anidel_home | because it's a proto, and needs a different fw | 20:49 |
| anidel_home | I had it but can't find it anymore...changed too many PCs/companies perhaps... | 20:49 |
| lbt | phaeron: so ... that looks like the old problem? | 20:49 |
| noch | to boot nemomobile you need to have u-boot installed in maemo | 20:49 |
| phaeron | lbt: what does ? | 20:50 |
| lbt | could be in the route... let me see | 20:50 |
| noch | anidel_home: did you try the firmware from tablets-dev.nokia.com? Doesn't it work? | 20:50 |
| anidel_home | yeah but I think uboot isn't needed to boot from MMC | 20:50 |
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| phaeron | lbt: the passenger prestart now works when it accesses the alias that communicates over lo0 | 20:50 |
| noch | currently u-boot is a standard way to boot nemomobile | 20:50 |
| anidel_home | noch: nope it doesn't. When I had the same firmware had to wait for the Nokia guys to give us firmware for our own models | 20:51 |
| anidel_home | noch: I know, mainly to allow booting from microSD | 20:51 |
| phaeron | lbt: requests coming from internet cause hange. so I think it might be related to the routeing | 20:51 |
| anidel_home | so unless I can flash uboot from PC, I can't see a way to revive it | 20:51 |
| noch | anidel_home: hmmm. There is another option however. Today you may try to install SHR distribution to the n900 | 20:51 |
| anidel_home | SHR? | 20:51 |
| lbt | yeah - I sent the route via a phost-local bridge - vlan19 | 20:52 |
| lbt | vlan10 | 20:52 |
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| noch | anidel_home: http://shr-project.org/trac | 20:52 |
| anidel_home | actually I can: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/U-Boot_from_scratch | 20:52 |
| anidel_home | let's see noch | 20:52 |
| noch | it has n900 port too. | 20:52 |
| lbt | hmmm | 20:52 |
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| noch | anidel_home: I use it on openmoko, and there is a youtube video which shows SHR on n900 | 20:53 |
| anidel_home | noch: might try, but if i can flash this, I can also flash mer :) | 20:53 |
| noch | anidel_home: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI | 20:53 |
| anidel_home | yeah watching it | 20:54 |
| noch | anidel_home: yes, may be. just an option to tinker before you figure out how to boot nemo | 20:54 |
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| anidel_home | uhm following their instructions I might endup having uboot installed and thus then run Mer ! let's see | 20:55 |
| lbt | phaeron: can't be a routing issue | 20:56 |
| lbt | it doesn't have a tcp to the client - handled by rev-proxy | 20:57 |
| phaeron | well something is screwy in the connection | 20:58 |
| phaeron | it couldn't connect to itself so it hung on prestart | 20:59 |
| phaeron | when I moved prestart to talk over loopback it works | 20:59 |
| phaeron | so.. | 20:59 |
| lbt | it doesn't need to prestart - least of our worries | 21:00 |
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| phaeron | can't connect to itself means webui can't talk to api using the external hostname | 21:01 |
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| anidel_home | yai! uboot installed booted from MMC :D | 21:06 |
| noch | yep! | 21:06 |
| anidel_home | \o/ let's see if Nemo starts | 21:06 |
| anidel_home | it id | 21:06 |
| anidel_home | did \o/ | 21:06 |
| phaeron | lbt: check the logs in screen 1 , it can't resolve that hostname | 21:06 |
| noch | anidel_home: cool! | 21:06 |
| Sage_ | hehe :) | 21:06 |
| lbt | and if it did it wouldn't work on th vhost | 21:07 |
| phaeron | lbt: sometimes you talk in riddles :) | 21:07 |
| lbt | apache would see an http connection for a vhost called api-vlan10 | 21:07 |
| lbt | that's not therr | 21:07 |
| lbt | e | 21:07 |
| phaeron | yeah hence the alias in /etc/hosts and ServerAlias directive | 21:08 |
| anidel_home | I reco that I was doing these kind of hacks when I was a student .. all the day long, from building my PC to preparing a Gentoo OS of my own liking :( Advances in UI made me lazy. | 21:09 |
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| phaeron | lbt: did you sleep ? | 21:12 |
| lbt | no | 21:12 |
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| lbt | think, type, works :) | 21:13 |
| lbt | but I also noticed the vlans are not optimal | 21:14 |
| phaeron | ok I'll leave you to it | 21:14 |
| lbt | no, I'm not touching them | 21:14 |
| noch | anidel_home: I am not a student but I also use gentoo. I even managed to build one on n810 | 21:14 |
| anidel_home | noch: cool stuff | 21:15 |
| noch | anidel_home: that's the most flexible os ever. And windowmaker. I think GNUStep is even suitable for mobile. | 21:15 |
| phaeron | lbt: you made me hate vlans :) | 21:16 |
| lbt | we don't have switches in mer so they're not great | 21:16 |
| lbt | in meego they're fine | 21:16 |
| lbt | fck | 21:16 |
| phaeron | well at least I think I pinpointed the issue for you ;) | 21:17 |
| lbt | yeah, obs is broken | 21:17 |
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| phaeron | no your network is broken | 21:17 |
| lbt | yeah, it works for months and then stops when we upgrade to 2.3.1 .... rly ? | 21:18 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 22:39 |
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| lbt | OK, phaeron and I seem to have sorted CI... it's moved to an https location now too. We're not sure what the problem was exactly but something seemed to be hitting it and causing issues. | 23:07 |
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