Tuesday, 2012-07-03

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sonachStskeeps: maybe there is something wrong with the 'auto-start' function in virt-manager.03:26
sonachOBS doesn't work well with this configuration until I disable the 'auto-start' function in virt-manager.  It took me nearly one day to cope with this :P03:27
sonachSo I decided to start the VMs by MANUAL later :)03:28
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Stskeepssonach: yeah, perhaps04:51
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Stskeepsmorn zumbi04:53
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Stskeepsmorn Ronksu :)05:50
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Ronksuhey Stskeeps, how's mer doing?06:02
Ronksu(haven't really paid attention) :)06:02
Stskeepsit's doing quite well i'd say :)06:02
Stskeepscommercial entities working with and using it, so it's a good start06:03
Ronksugood to hear. Have to give it a test, been too long :)06:03
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Ronksuoh, that's great06:03
Ronksuwhich ones?06:03
Stskeepsthere's a few around the place and a few that aren't working in public, but we have healthcare, IVI, STB, etc covered06:04
Stskeepsthe thing about mer is that you don't always notice who uses us :P06:04
Ronksusounds really good. And yes, it's nice to have stuff that does not rely on whizzbang widgets to be great :)06:05
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Stskeepslbt: webui/api still doing stalls .. getting "timeout occoured" web page06:10
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: is there X-Video Extension libs in mer?06:53
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: libXv06:54
Stskeepsso yes06:54
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: ok, thank you. I try to make my xvimagesink work, it seems I need to install xv support06:55
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: which package contain xvinfo command? in opensuse system, I found this command xvinfo belong to xorg-x11-7.6-42.3.i5807:29
sonachStskeeps: it seems that mer wiki is down??07:30
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Stskeepssonach: hmm no?07:31
Stskeepswe just use https://wiki.merproject.org07:31
Stskeepsi won't be much around today, in a telco all day07:32
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sonachStskeeps: can not access it ... odd :P I will try it later.07:33
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w00t_Stskeeps: i hope you have plenty of coffee nearby07:40
Stskeepssonach: if https: ever becomes a problem for china users, let me know07:41
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sonachStskeeps: it is OK now :)08:01
sonachonly a few web sites are blocked. https will not.08:01
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lbtmorning all08:10
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lbtSage_: where's the exopc HA stuff?08:33
lbthttp://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sage:/Mer:/adaptation:/x86/Mer_i586 ?08:33
lbtour wiki has almost nothing in it08:35
* lbt wonders where the source for http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/exopc/mer-plasma/ is08:39
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DocScrutinizerlbt: %s this is konversation08:54
lbtDocScrutinizer: yeah, I figured as much eventually :)08:55
lbtI didn't expect it to interpret message content08:55
dm8tbrlbt: at least it includes a .ks file (as mandated by me for people hosting stuff )09:00
lbtdm8tbr: *nod* ... I'm not seriously suggesting it's a problem... just idly noting that it is09:00
lbtit makes me wonder if we need a mic mode "create gpl-compliance mega tarball"09:01
Stskeepsthere's a bug for rthat..09:01
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lbto/ Attie09:13
Attiemorning lbt :-)09:20
lbthow's things going on the Mer front with you?09:21
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Attiei'm afraid it's all gone away!09:29
Attiethe project seemed to wrap up and stop09:29
Guest42808hi Stskeeps09:30
Stskeeps'lo zumbi :)09:30
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StskeepsAttie: ah that sucks, any feedback on mer side of problems you had, or the premise of the project was just flawed in first place? (it sounded rather crazy what your managers wanted)09:31
Attieheh, yeah... just flawed from the beginning09:31
Stskeepshopefully you'll find some use in the future :)09:32
Attieindeed, thanks for everything you helped with!09:32
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Stskeepsand if there's anything to feed back on what problems Mer had, we're happy to log those as well09:32
Stskeeps(we're happy with negative feedback, it helps us improve)09:33
dcthangroom still alive, not so much summer vacation here :P09:33
Stskeepsdcthang: vacation, what's that?09:33
dcthangoh summer vacation I mean09:34
dcthangsummer holiday precisely09:34
AttieStskeeps: i don't think there was anything particularly bad... just a matter of getting my head round your magical build system! which turned out to be pretty handy :-)09:35
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StskeepsAttie: hehe, you can now add +10 eur/month to your salary when approaching a company which uses obs ;)09:37
Stskeepser, 10/hour09:37
dcthangStskeeps: it looks attractive with that09:40
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lbtAttie: back now ... ah well, nm10:25
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lbtwifi on mer on exopc isn't easy16:50
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Stskeepsit isn't?16:51
Stskeepslatest nemo?16:51
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lbtMer, not nemo16:52
lbtwpa_supplicant is complaining about rfkill16:52
Stskeepsit isn't easy, no16:52
Stskeepsconnman version = ?16:52
Stskeepsand why aren't you using the connman scripts?16:53
* lbt looks at Stskeeps and then at the extensive notes written to the wiki to help other people get started...16:54
lbtI installed connman-test pkg16:54
Stskeepsok, and test-connman enable wifi ?16:55
* Stskeeps has to go\16:55
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Stskeepsok, back17:09
Stskeepsdid it help?17:09
lbtcxl000: just a "thanks" for taking the time to put the https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0#To_Run notes together17:09
lbtyeah, it helped me find cxl000's notes :)17:09
lbtthat enabled wifi too17:09
lbtbut our connman doesn't have the passphrase command17:09
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Stskeepsyeah, that i found bizarre17:10
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lbtfyi ... I went here: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/connman.git;a=tree and was, of course, able to find the spec info and see that we call it connman-test, not connman-tests like other distros. But I couldn't browse the code which is a really annoying barrier to debugging the code17:11
lbtalso list-services doesn't return anything17:14
lbttest-connman list shows my AP17:14
lbtthere's a simple-agent which mentions passphrase17:16
Stskeepshmm, there is something that changed in that regard yes17:17
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lbtok, so using wpa_passphrase and adding a network{} block to wpa_supplicant.conf, then restarting the service gets me ./list-services17:30
lbtie:  wpa_passphrase $SSID $passphrase >> wpa_supplicant.conf17:30
Stskeepsnot the right way but i need to read up on connman to tell what the right is17:32
lbtI don't know how wpa_supplicant and connman interact17:33
lbtgot a few hours before attempting to demo this :/17:34
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lbtgot it17:50
lbt./simple-agent SSID=<SSID> Passphrase="phrase"17:51
lbt(which isn't one of the documented pairings)17:51
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Bostikiirc connect-service works too18:42
BostikI have a vague memory of using it to connect18:43
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lbtthanks Bostik the incantation is getting kinda complex19:11
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lbtmainly since the scripts require the connman ID and not the SSID19:12
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BostikI discoveted tye connman "test" tools about abyear back, when I had to constantly get a fragile system online...19:31
Stskeepslbt: you're learning well :)19:34
Stskeepslbt: next up, doc/config* in connman19:34
* lbt vows to stop working on systems19:34
lbtI don't care if they all burn down with leap-second-melted cpus19:35
lbtok. Stskeeps. why is Mer running 2 xorgs?19:35
Stskeepslbt: uhh..19:35
Stskeepslbt: it's not..?19:35
Stskeepsif it is, that's a bug19:36
lbtuxlaunch tries to run one and it manages to start its own19:36
Stskeepsi've never seen that behaviour19:36
* lbt is off to #systemd to ask how to reverse map a pid -> unit file19:36
Stskeepslbt: i should have some more time to help you out tomorrow, btw19:37
Stskeepsalso, the leap second thing was kinda awesome19:37
lbtit was19:37
lbtthe ISP email .... wow19:37
lbtBostik: we got a mail from the ISP saying their power usage went up by 1MW overnight19:37
Bostikleap second bug.. thousands of cores spinning wildly....19:38
lbtand how many won't be caught for a long, long time?19:39
BostikHetzner? I saw the mail on HN19:39
Bostikall the fancy things happen while I'm on vacation19:44
Bostikand this is just the first week!19:44
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lbt... and a new systemd version comes out19:54
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lbtI know systemd is cool.... but it's bloody spaghetti21:17
lbtand it uses comefrom calls ... which are much more evil than goto ever was21:18
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CosmoHilllbt: lol21:30
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lbtmmm so systemd is using journald ... but doesn't have journalctl installed22:28
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