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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:11 |
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| phaeron1 | morn | 04:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: morning! I successfully run Mer0614 on my device, and my own packages are built by VM-based MerOBS :) | 04:17 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: congratulations :) | 04:19 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: now you know enough to do consulting in OBS setups ;) | 04:19 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: maybe :P | 04:19 |
| iekku | morning | 04:21 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Have you ever met this error: when I click 'Adminstrator' Link of my bugzilla, it reports: http://pastie.org/4169732, the URL for this is http://192.168.188.141/bugzilla4/admin.cgi | 05:36 |
| Stskeeps | no, haven't encountered that before | 05:36 |
| sonach | ok, | 05:36 |
| iekku | neither have i | 05:37 |
| iekku | sonach, are you sure your bz is up and runnig? | 05:38 |
| sonach | iekku: what is 'bz'? | 05:39 |
| E-P | morning all | 05:39 |
| iekku | sonach, bugzilla | 05:39 |
| iekku | does everything else work? | 05:39 |
| Stskeeps | morn E-P :) | 05:40 |
| sonach | iekku: i configure bugzilla3 and bugzilla4 at the same time, and bugzilla4 have this error while bz3 is OK. Yes, bz4 is running, because i can login, | 05:40 |
| iekku | hmmm | 05:40 |
| sonach | iekku: is there any logs? | 05:40 |
| iekku | sonach, i will ask someone who knows better... if he knows what might be a problem | 05:42 |
| sonach | iekku: thank you very much !! | 05:42 |
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| sonach | can i access him directly on this IRC? | 05:42 |
| iekku | sonach, can't promise anything, but let's see | 05:42 |
| sonach | ok :) | 05:43 |
| iekku | i think there's a bugzilla irc channel in freenode | 05:43 |
| Sage_ | http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,628,1,bluez.spec Stskeeps umm... | 05:43 |
| iekku | i check the channels name | 05:44 |
| sonach | iekku: resolved this problem ! | 05:44 |
| dm8tbr | I thought the BZ people hang out on MozNet? | 05:44 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: something isn't right there. You removed the real .service file and moved to the .wants dir where symbolic link should be? | 05:44 |
| iekku | sonach, what it was? | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: something is a bit awry in how bluez does systemd units, i think | 05:44 |
| iekku | (opportunity to learn new things) | 05:44 |
| sonach | iekku: because I put 'zh_CN' package under /usr/share/bugzilla4/template, | 05:44 |
| iekku | ah | 05:45 |
| sonach | and the 'zh_CN' language package is downloaded from the internet ... | 05:45 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: need to check that as the current request isn't right | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: agree, feel free to -1 | 05:45 |
| sonach | iekku: so i have to use the English only version, no chance to use Simplifed Chinese :P | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps there exists one template but it's wrong version | 05:46 |
| iekku | sonach, #bugzilla on irc.mozilla.org - Most of the Bugzilla developers are on this IRC channel. (although you may have to be patient to get our attention, since we aren't always watching the window). | 05:47 |
| dm8tbr | MozNet... *nod* | 05:48 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ps. update your mer sdk/spectacle ;) | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: :P | 05:49 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: and you can do tarball download with spectacle just by changing the version and running spectacle ;) | 05:52 |
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| Stskeeps | i do that, on occasion | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | but this time around .xz was gone | 05:56 |
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| niqt | morning | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn niqt | 06:20 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps, lbt: any timeline for the next -next? | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | past systemd inclusion | 07:02 |
| Sage_ | k | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: should i obsoletes/provides udev with systemd? | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | err | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | obsoletes/provides udev in systemd | 07:04 |
| iekku | sonach, friend said that you can use 'uri' filter instead of 'url_quote' | 07:05 |
| iekku | sonach, but the old templates might not still work with newer bz | 07:05 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: if you have both then you obsolete yourself :) | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | sigh.> | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:06 |
| Sage_ | I think rpmlint complains about that | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so provides and Prefer: systemd | 07:06 |
| ZiQiangHuan | iekku: sonach is in a meeting now | 07:06 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: well you should do probably: Obsoletes: udev < 185 Provides: udev >= 185 or similar | 07:07 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 07:07 |
| iekku | ZiQiangHuan, thanks :) | 07:08 |
| Sage_ | that should work, but if you do "Obsoletes: udev; Provides: udev;" Then you count yourself obsolete ;) | 07:08 |
| sonach | iekku: ok, thank you :) | 07:11 |
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| lbt | Sage_: I need to get ppl for MIPS done too | 07:43 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: when I boot up my system, always got message "drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)", my kernel configure about rtc is http://pastie.org/4170296. any ideas for this? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a RTC device? | 08:43 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I don;'t find rtc in /dev/ | 08:44 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, then maybe it doesn't have a rtc.. check your board manual | 08:44 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok | 08:46 |
| smoku | is COBS so slow only for me? | 08:46 |
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| E-P | lbt: I added the development process to the tools wiki page, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Tools#Development_of_tools | 09:30 |
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| alterego | Damn hayfever .. | 09:52 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | alterego: can't agree more | 09:52 |
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| stefan_schmidt_w | I hate mine as well | 09:52 |
| alterego | Takes me about 2 hours in the morning to reach normality | 09:53 |
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| slaine | here here | 09:54 |
| slaine | been killing me this week | 09:54 |
| * Stskeeps is just happy that his new meds have left him mostly symptom free this spring and summer | 09:56 | |
| Stskeeps | got totally mismeidicined it denmark it seems | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | medicined | 09:57 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: for hayfever | 09:57 |
| slaine | ? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | a bunch of allergies | 09:57 |
| slaine | right | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'm allergic to rye so i guess it fits in hayfever :P | 09:57 |
| dm8tbr | in finland my season seems to start. I started carrying around a pack of ceterizine | 09:59 |
| slaine | No, that's totally different, that's ryefever | 09:59 |
| slaine | ;) | 09:59 |
| alterego | Heh | 10:00 |
| alterego | This is my second year I've suffered hayfever. The last time was probably 6 years ago. | 10:01 |
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| slaine | It's been a few years since I've had it this bad, that last two irish summers where too poor for the pollen to get to a high level I guess. | 10:01 |
| alterego | So I'm not normally affected, the worst it normally is is the occasional sneezing fit in the morning and evening. This year my eyes are leaking crap, my nose is blocked and I'm having sneezing fits every hour. | 10:01 |
| iekku | first summer in 20 years i haven't have symphtons | 10:02 |
| * slaine is always amazed at how many people suffer with hayfever | 10:02 | |
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| iekku | i was amazed about the fact that i don't need no medicines | 10:04 |
| iekku | usually i have medicines from start of april to sept | 10:05 |
| * dm8tbr hasn't popped a pill yet, still waiting for the annoyance/pain threshold | 10:06 | |
| slaine | coffee helps, I'm off to get some | 10:06 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you have build log for the ofono 4.101? | 10:10 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-systemdsystemunitdir | 10:12 |
| Sage_ | should be --with-systemdunitdir= now | 10:14 |
| Sage_ | thus the package failed. | 10:14 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | alterego: wow, ok, its not that bad for me. Still annoying. Need to take some pills to get through a bad day | 10:25 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: you mean bluez | 12:53 |
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| lbt | hehe .... bluez | 13:07 |
| * lbt is going to a blues dance on sunday :) | 13:08 | |
| * dm8tbr has got the blues today! :-S | 13:08 | |
| lbt | aw ... you don't want the blues... you want the Blues :) | 13:08 |
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| * dm8tbr needs another whisky | 13:11 | |
| dm8tbr | then I could consider putting on some Blues music | 13:12 |
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| lbt | 13:17 ? | 13:17 |
| lbt | hmm .... KDE time ... | 13:17 |
| lbt | I like KDE's clock - it's so .... fair.... apparently it's the same time in Helsinki, San Francisco and London :) | 13:18 |
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| dm8tbr | well yeah, UTC is same around the world ;) | 13:21 |
| lbt | if only.... | 13:21 |
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| lbt | afternoon w00tmob | 13:33 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: having some issues with mkbaselibs with new build | 13:33 |
| lbt | just FYI | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | showme? | 13:34 |
| lbt | -bash: /usr/lib/build/mkbaselibs: No such file or directory | 13:34 |
| lbt | it's in my test OBS | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | ok, is build-mkbaselibs installed? | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | in prjconf | 13:34 |
| lbt | hmm not in the install list | 13:34 |
| w00tmob | lo lbt | 13:35 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: it's a build against normal Mer_Core_armv7hl | 13:36 |
| lbt | w00tmob: out and about then :) | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, verify that build-mkbaselibs gets installed.. | 13:36 |
| lbt | it doesn't | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | /.build/ contents? | 13:37 |
| lbt | .same_result_marker | 13:38 |
| lbt | mmm | 13:39 |
| lbt | the build.spec has %if 0%{?suse_version} > 1120 || ! 0%{?suse_version} Requires: build-mkbaselibs | 13:39 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: build-mkbaselibs isn't installed in normal cobs builds | 13:45 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, i think it may be a new thing | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | check 'build' commit log? | 13:47 |
| lbt | yeah ... that's what I'm thinking ... kinda wondered about BUILD_TARGET stuff | 13:47 |
| lbt | local mkbaselibs="/usr/lib/build/mkbaselibs" | 13:48 |
| lbt | I think I may have missed something rebasing your patch - it wasn't clean | 13:50 |
| lbt | I think it would be good to have a BUILD_ROOT->TARGET_ROOT patch and then a quoting patch | 13:51 |
| lbt | rather than a mega-patch for "add sb2 support" | 13:51 |
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| Stskeeps | probably, or the intended rewrite | 13:52 |
| lbt | I've only rebased to the 2012.05.31 which is the version depended on by 3.2.1 | 13:53 |
| lbt | that's about half the current commits to HEAD | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: what happened to kickstarts for latest release? | 13:54 |
| lbt | ks creation steps need an updgraded SDK to create them | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:54 |
| lbt | which sucks, process wise | 13:54 |
| lbt | I have a task to "do it better" | 13:55 |
| lbt | but OBS release came to higher prio.... and shouldn't be this hard! | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | i'm gone over the weekend btw | 13:56 |
| lbt | vacation ? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | polish mountains | 13:57 |
| lbt | nice | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | well i'm not sure what i call my current state | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | "open source holiday"? | 13:57 |
| lbt | lbt-ism | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | i need to get some random hacking out of my system and hence i'm trying to hack my touchpad to run wayland.. | 13:58 |
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| lbt | I promised people I'd have the new OBS out ... so until that's done I'm kinda stuck | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | give me a full build log please | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | and a tarball of your build root | 14:00 |
| lbt | it's fine - I'm OK diagnosing it ... I think it's just mis-setting $makebaselibs executable | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | perhpas | 14:01 |
| lbt | and this shoiuld be the last time that's "hard" ... we're setting up some nested kvm obs test harness stuff RSN | 14:01 |
| lbt | on phostX | 14:01 |
| lbt | here: https://github.com/Merproject/obs-build/commits/mer-2012.05.31/ | 14:02 |
| * Stskeeps peeks | 14:03 | |
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| Stskeeps | build log too pretty please | 14:05 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: is there a WM standard for wayland yet? | 14:06 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: the question is if you really need one.. | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: for mobile usage it's not that needed | 14:07 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: someone has to tell the server where to place windows | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: that's the compositor's job | 14:08 |
| smoku | all apps are fullscreen single window? | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | compositor = the server | 14:08 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: sure ... but ... I think it's a rebase bug of mine | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: five eyes is better than two | 14:09 |
| lbt | enter_target needuser mkbaselibs $BASELIBS_GLOBAL $BASELIBS_CFG $line || cleanup_and_exit 1 | 14:09 |
| lbt | should be $BUILD_TARGET'ed | 14:09 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: how can I create a wiendow and tell the server it should dock it to the left side of the screen? | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, i think somebody is working on that kind of stuff - but if you look at for example qml compositor it does imply that you'd probably end up doing things in reverse order really | 14:10 |
| smoku | reverse order? | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | as in, what would typically be in a dock would instead be drawn by compositor | 14:11 |
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| smoku | i red sowewhere that the WM protocol is planned. that's why i asked whether it is ready yet. :) | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: dunno, you'd have to ask the wayland guys :) | 14:11 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: think gimp. few documents window + 2 tool windows docked to the left and right. compositor does not handle my apps tool windows does it? | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | but on mobile: composition is slow, full screen when you can | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm not personally of the belief where wayland will really matter is typical desktop usage | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | .. that sounded weird - i mean, it's likely to have more impact in mobile than typical desktop usage | 14:13 |
| smoku | so the people working on it concentrate on mobile? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | it really varies.. there's a grouping working on xwayland, but wayland itself really seems to stick in getting the general concepts right | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | and promote things to standards when most agree on them | 14:17 |
| lbt | poor rebase - https://github.com/Merproject/obs-build/commit/3b6b63877da224d6133fda19ec842839450ad9d5#L2R553 | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | hm? | 14:18 |
| lbt | I left the chroot in | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:18 |
| lbt | and missed the $BUILD_TARGET preceding mkbaselibs | 14:18 |
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| lbt | yay ... builds now ... :) | 14:22 |
| lbt | let me try copyprj and see if I can stop phaeron from sobbing in the corner... | 14:22 |
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| Stskeeps | wow | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | i'm reading a master's thesis on somebody.. who ported MeeGo to SPARC. | 14:30 |
| lbt | is that a psychology thesis? | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | http://publications.lib.chalmers.se/records/fulltext/146296.pdf | 14:31 |
| lbt | or did you mean "by somebody" | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | by somebody | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, i'm expecting to find a psychology one too | 14:32 |
| lbt | nm... it was really funny in my head :) | 14:32 |
| lbt | we should ask him to do a follow up using Mer ... then compare/contrast | 14:33 |
| lbt | (seriously) | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | i can pretty much tell you that once you're done with your thesis you never want to see it again | 14:33 |
| lbt | just been talking to pohly and kinda crossing my mind how to support syncevolution around Mer | 14:35 |
| lbt | MW:Shared type thing | 14:35 |
| pohly | lbt: pick a PIM storage (or two, or three, ...) and then offer SyncEvolution compiled for them. | 14:37 |
| pohly | Testing becomes problematic. Usually you'll want to do at least some sanity testing against real-world peers. | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: well, now that we can do releases.. | 14:38 |
| lbt | yeah | 14:38 |
| lbt | does Qt have anything in the PIM space? | 14:38 |
| pohly | There is a test program in the source which can be compiled without affecting the core bits. | 14:38 |
| lbt | http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/all-qtpim-examples.html | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: it's pretty tolerant but recently attention went for PIM backed by jsondb | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | how that's erm, going now, is a good question | 14:39 |
| pohly | lbt: QtContacts + Tracker. KCal, with varying degrees of dependencies on KDE libs. | 14:39 |
| lbt | pohly: we'd avoid KDE if possible - though maybe strip/extract | 14:39 |
| lbt | Tracker... hmm :) | 14:40 |
| pohly | There was a KCal port with a dependency on just some minimal KDE libs. | 14:40 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: we have mkcal and kcalcore atm in mer core | 14:41 |
| lbt | I didn't realise that | 14:41 |
| pohly | The Qt 5 PIM looks like a derivative of Qt Mobility . When Organizer was first defined there, it had no concept of time zones and it also couldn't be added without an API break. | 14:42 |
| * lbt may have found an area that bridges systems and Qt/core | 14:42 | |
| pohly | The key issue was lack of a date+time+time zone class in Qt. | 14:42 |
| pohly | Not sure whether that has improved in Qt 5. | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | there's been a fair bit of discussion on that, i think | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | they use icu more now, i think | 14:43 |
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| sledges | see you in a week, another active holiday :) | 16:07 |
| sledges | good luck merrying!! | 16:07 |
| iekku | sledges, have a nice holiday! | 16:10 |
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| lbt | well something is screwey | 16:33 |
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| Stskeeps | oh? | 16:42 |
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| Stskeeps | fps: 56085.2 | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | I Don't Think So | 17:47 |
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| CosmoHill | woof | 20:14 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: yes, made comments in gerrit | 20:21 |
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