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sonach | lbt: the publish problem is sorted out! but in my case, I have to install 'createrepo' on the obs backend. | 04:39 |
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E-P | Good morning :) | 04:40 |
sonach | Stskeeps: I make an directory called 'MerDS:Core:armv7l' under /srv/obs/repos to put Mer-releases packages into it, and under http://OBSFE_INT:82, I can not see 'MerDS:Core:armv7l'. but On my old obs server, it works fine, | 04:42 |
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Stskeeps | sonach: do you do that on fe or be? | 05:05 |
Stskeeps | sonach: you're much more likely to have a better result if you instead make a virtual host in your apache where you put releases/ stuff in | 05:11 |
Stskeeps | on fe | 05:11 |
iekku | morning | 05:13 |
E-P | morning iekku | 05:16 |
sonach | Stskeeps: I do that on be... I will try this on fe, | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | fe is the one having a http server, so | 05:30 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: yes, on fe, the job done:) | 05:34 |
sonach | but strangely enough, if I create a software link under /srv/obs/repos, the sofeware link can not be seen , | 05:34 |
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Estel_ | Stskeeps, sorry for dumb question, but what parts of N950/N9 hardware are missing from Mer hardware adaptation? | 05:43 |
Estel_ | is it listed somewhere? | 05:43 |
Estel_ | BTW, I know N900 got adapted very well, but it's there something missing, nevertheless? if yes, same question as before ;) | 05:44 |
Stskeeps | Estel_: gps, nfc, 2.6.32 kernel not one later, low power mode not really taken into use.. | 05:48 |
rcg | Estel_: battery indicator | 05:49 |
rcg | iirc battery indicator is an issue for all N900/N950/N9 | 05:50 |
rcg | essentially the i2c battery gauge chip needs to be supported | 05:50 |
Stskeeps | we were actually on path to fix that once and for all with libbme.. but things don't always go the way you want (feb11) | 05:51 |
rcg | Stskeeps: i see, do you have a link? | 05:51 |
Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_libbme/ i think | 05:52 |
rcg | am just asking because i tried to mess with that i2c gauge fellow but this thing turned out to be a little cryptic to decipher.. to say the least :) | 05:52 |
Stskeeps | uh-huh | 05:53 |
Stskeeps | :P | 05:53 |
Stskeeps | rcg: got a n900 btw that you could help smoke test an image on? | 05:53 |
rcg | Stskeeps: or anyone else who cares about my findings about the battery gauge thingie -> http://ruedigergad.com/2012/06/03/nemomer-vs-battery-status-vs-n9n950/ | 05:54 |
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rcg | Stskeeps: sure, i do.. but i don't have very much time right now.. i could simply drop the image on my n900 and see if it starts but well.. | 05:55 |
rcg | also wanted to drop you a note yesterday.. but then somehow other work came across :/ | 05:55 |
rcg | even had to cancel my planned vacation last week to do some important work.. and i also think that my vacation this week will at least partially suffer the same faith :/ | 05:57 |
Stskeeps | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/testing-versions/0.20120614.0.1.NEMO.2012-06-25.5/ - wifi is not likely to work | 05:58 |
Stskeeps | just need to verify it boots and apps start | 05:58 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: when I building libmatchbox using the latest MerDS, hit one build error: http://pastie.org/4152594 | 06:01 |
rcg | Stskeeps: roger that | 06:01 |
sonach | Stskeeps: maybe the lib for handling jpeg or png has been updated? | 06:01 |
Stskeeps | sonach: it sure has | 06:02 |
Stskeeps | though that should be API compatible, i would think.. | 06:02 |
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Stskeeps | sonach: you need to add this patch to your libmatchbox: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=10;filename=libmatchbox-1.9.patch;att=1;bug=649822 | 06:03 |
sonach | Stskeeps: thank you, i just want to see whether I should do some modifications to libmatbox :) | 06:04 |
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* Stskeeps has to reboot, brb.. | 06:06 | |
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Stskeeps | morning pirut, jukkaeklund :) | 06:16 |
jukkaeklund | good morning | 06:16 |
jukkaeklund | you know what pirut means in Finland? | 06:16 |
jukkaeklund | er, Finnish | 06:16 |
Stskeeps | nop | 06:17 |
E-P | I always smile when seeing that nick :) | 06:17 |
iekku | devils | 06:17 |
iekku | or demons | 06:18 |
pirut | morning ! | 06:19 |
jukkaeklund | :) | 06:19 |
Bostik | the hell is empty, and all the devils are here | 06:20 |
pirut | we can thank the kalevala for unused nicks :) | 06:20 |
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iekku | hmm, should i change my nick to iku-turso | 06:30 |
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Stskeeps | uhh, when is it we have our normal mer release meeting? | 07:21 |
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Sage_ | today 11UTC? | 07:25 |
Sage_ | or at least so my calendar says | 07:25 |
Stskeeps | ok | 07:25 |
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phaeron | is there a list of them somewhere | 07:30 |
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phaeron | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings | 07:30 |
phaeron | is that still accurate :) | 07:30 |
Stskeeps | i think we need to move them an hour back | 07:30 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: OK for release | 07:37 |
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lbt | morning | 07:40 |
lbt | ok | 07:40 |
Stskeeps | morn lbt | 07:40 |
smoku | What's tha deal with: | 07:46 |
smoku | $ specify blahblah.yaml | 07:47 |
smoku | Warning: There is no "Makefile" for this package, please update it using packaging-tools | 07:47 |
smoku | $ zypper search packaging-tools | 07:47 |
smoku | No packages found. | 07:47 |
Stskeeps | just some silly old stuff they had | 07:48 |
Stskeeps | file a bug against tools and let's get it fixed, we don't use packaging-tools | 07:48 |
sonach | lbt: morning:) | 07:49 |
lbt | Stskeeps: is that what it is.... it's become "auto-ignore" :) | 07:50 |
lbt | hey sonach ... so you need to install createrepo... that's odd | 07:50 |
lbt | I checked and it seems to pull it in on my backend | 07:50 |
sonach | lbt: yeap, now i can do building and publishing well :) | 07:51 |
lbt | but yeah - glad that is sorted out | 07:51 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: I'll start the release then | 07:55 |
Stskeeps | k | 07:56 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: BTW - I was wrong about rpmbuild... silly me for assuming --clean and %clean had anything to do with each other :/ | 08:12 |
Stskeeps | ah | 08:12 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:12 |
Stskeeps | packages use %clean ?:P | 08:12 |
lbt | no | 08:13 |
lbt | but it seems like the default %clean is automatically forced on -bb | 08:13 |
lbt | --clean is almost-but-not-quite identical | 08:14 |
lbt | http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/ch-rpm-b-command.html#S2-RPM-B-COMMAND-CLEAN-OPTION | 08:14 |
Stskeeps | so you mean it will erase the already built stuff? | 08:14 |
lbt | yes - don't you see this? | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | i do, but i didn't even try to optimize the already-built case | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | just the sources case | 08:15 |
lbt | no problem | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | that case could be optimized with ccache perhaps | 08:15 |
lbt | the issue I had is rsync has to copy over *all* the source every time | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | ah | 08:16 |
Stskeeps | rsync also doesn't --delete fwiww | 08:16 |
lbt | it can't | 08:16 |
lbt | we want to keep the .o files :) | 08:16 |
lbt | so --delete-unless-.o | 08:16 |
lbt | :/ | 08:16 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:16 |
lbt | the main use case is hacking on files... edge cases can wait | 08:16 |
lbt | anyhow: --skip-clean has been added to your --skip-prep | 08:17 |
Stskeeps | ok | 08:17 |
lbt | but the more I look at rpm the more I believe it's a tribute to the Flying Spaghetti Monster | 08:18 |
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Stskeeps | that's how i feel when looking at dpkg-* | 08:19 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:19 |
lbt | dh7 4ever | 08:19 |
Stskeeps | do we have powertop packaged btw? | 08:20 |
Stskeeps | in tools | 08:20 |
lbt | no | 08:21 |
lbt | usual process is copy to M:Tools:Testing and then SR to M:Tools | 08:21 |
Stskeeps | k | 08:21 |
Stskeeps | why copy? | 08:21 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:21 |
lbt | M:T:T is the team hackspace | 08:22 |
Stskeeps | ok | 08:22 |
lbt | M:T is the source for a snapshot/release | 08:22 |
lbt | for now | 08:22 |
lbt | FYI the rpm pain made me spend some time on git/pristine-tar last night | 08:23 |
lbt | I've refined some of the ideas about branches | 08:23 |
lbt | and I think we can co-exist with the current gerrit trees | 08:23 |
lbt | I've also clarified the various branches and naming/numbering things | 08:24 |
lbt | and how to deal with released tarballs == upstream git + autoreconf | 08:24 |
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Stskeeps | ok | 08:25 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: failed when do 'osc importsrcpkg' against new OBS server: http://pastie.org/4153145 | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | sonach: rm -rf ca-certificates and try again | 08:33 |
sonach | Stskeeps: same error. and I did 'osc mkpac' before this. http://pastie.org/4153162 | 08:35 |
Stskeeps | sonach: hmm, odd | 08:40 |
Stskeeps | maybe you ctrl-c'ed at a bad point | 08:40 |
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Stskeeps | sonach: start out in empty directory, perhaps? | 08:42 |
sonach | Stskeeps: hehe, if i do 'osc importsrcpkg' directly, it is fine; if i do 'osc mkpac' before it, it is bad :) | 08:43 |
sonach | but i remember i should do 'osc mkpac' before 'osc importsrcpkg' ... anyway, it is sorted out. | 08:44 |
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Stskeeps | morn slaine | 09:43 |
slaine | morning Stskeeps, all | 09:43 |
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Sage_ | lbt: why isn't spectacl 0.24.1 in mer sdk yet? forgot or still in testing? | 10:06 |
lbt | http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/6.0.1/builds/i486/packages/noarch/spectacle-0.24.1-1.1.noarch.rpm | 10:06 |
lbt | did you see the messages I sent you in #nemomobile? | 10:07 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PMlgIoTuJ4 | 10:31 |
w00t | sroedal: ^ | 10:31 |
tadzik | wow, that looks cool | 10:32 |
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slaine | w00t: nice | 10:35 |
lbt | w00t: so ... steps to reproduce? | 10:36 |
w00t | lbt: at this point, "extremely complicated" | 10:37 |
w00t | i'll have it easier in the next day or two I hope | 10:37 |
w00t | it's at least nice to know that my proof-of-concept of keeping things simple to allow for windowing integration later was a good move | 10:38 |
lbt | good | 10:38 |
lbt | so what are we seeing there? | 10:38 |
lbt | may be worth outlining the layers and roles | 10:39 |
w00t | lbt: in a sentence - a window manager/homescreen environment and applications running into it | 10:39 |
w00t | inside* | 10:39 |
lbt | yep that's kinda visible - but what I'd like to see is what components provide what roles and how it fits wrt Mer | 10:40 |
w00t | in terms of tech - the homescreen/WM is mostly QML with a bit of C++ from the qtwayland examples (so, easy to put together) | 10:40 |
w00t | qtwayland/qt/* is all provided from a mer VM using llvmpipe that Stskeeps put together for me | 10:40 |
lbt | I'd love to get this to a place where it forms the basis for PoC work for others | 10:42 |
w00t | that's where it'll hopefully end up :P | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mini-mer-i586-vm-qmlcompositor.ks | 10:42 |
lbt | cool - being on the same page is nice | 10:42 |
lbt | Stskeeps: ta | 10:42 |
sroedal | w00t: cool | 10:43 |
lbt | Stskeeps: btw.. phost6/7 issue fixed | 10:43 |
w00t | sroedal: feel free to share to anyone there who might be interested, and also massive kudos on making this easy to do | 10:43 |
lbt | some transient outage and poor recovery | 10:44 |
lbt | Stskeeps: release seems good - no cpio issues | 10:45 |
w00t | Stskeeps: crazy idea #318751 that might make my life easier: can I install a mer SDK inside this VM? | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | w00t: in a chroot maybe.. | 10:46 |
w00t | I need compilers, and having to scp stuff from my SDK inside another VM to my host, and then from my host into the mer VM is getting old :P | 10:46 |
lbt | w00t: let me know if you can't | 10:46 |
w00t | ok, i'll give it a shot | 10:46 |
lbt | w00t: also you should be able to make virtual lans rather easily | 10:47 |
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w00t | first things first, though, figure out how to get git | 10:48 |
Stskeeps | w00t: you can get rid of the cursor blink in /sys/*/*/fbcon somewhere | 10:52 |
lbt | w00t: git is in SDK | 10:53 |
w00t | lbt: ooh | 10:53 |
lbt | w00t: SDK is fairly fully featured wrt development - anything missing, please yell | 10:53 |
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lbt | the objective is to share a filesystem with a desktop ... so operational tools (git, quilt, mic, osc) have much higher prio than visual tools (like gitk/emacs) | 10:54 |
w00t | lbt: exactly | 10:55 |
w00t | that would be very nice | 10:55 |
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Sage_ | re meeting? | 11:03 |
Stskeeps | yes, let's get it on the road | 11:04 |
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sledges | w00t, c00l vid!! | 11:34 |
w00t | :) | 11:34 |
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lbt | aard_: ping - do you track our release meetings? | 11:50 |
aard_ | currently not | 11:50 |
lbt | maybe an idea to comment on potentially disruptive changes | 11:51 |
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w00t | lbt: got time to talk SDK? | 11:56 |
lbt | 5-10mins? | 11:58 |
w00t | sure, tell me when you're ready | 11:58 |
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lbt | w00t: OK ... | 12:05 |
w00t | sec | 12:05 |
w00t | /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot expects to be run as root using sudo - whoami reports that I am actually running as root.. it advises me to use -u <user>, but I have no idea what to pass -u | 12:07 |
w00t | .. this is inside mer VM, of course | 12:07 |
lbt | "mer" I guess | 12:08 |
lbt | have a look in /etc/passwd | 12:08 |
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lbt | just pulling up code to see | 12:08 |
w00t | ah, ok, it wants an actual username other than root? | 12:08 |
lbt | yes | 12:08 |
w00t | wonder if that could be made more obvious in the text somehow.. | 12:09 |
lbt | and this part is ... 'lightly tested' .... (ie I ran it in my head) | 12:09 |
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Stskeeps | w00t: are you running this on top of busybox? | 12:10 |
w00t | Stskeeps: no | 12:10 |
w00t | hmm | 12:11 |
w00t | I passed it -u nemo, but it doesn't even seem to be trying to process args now.. *dig* | 12:11 |
lbt | The main command is : setarch i386 chroot ${sdkroot} su -s /bin/bash -l $user -- -c "exec bash --init-file /mer-bash-setup -i" | 12:12 |
lbt | which is where the $user is needed | 12:13 |
lbt | it also does things like add the user to sudoers.d inside sdk | 12:14 |
w00t | ok, here goes | 12:14 |
w00t | mer-sdk-chroot -u nemo mount: will go through the getopt stuff | 12:14 |
w00t | mer-sdk-chroot mount -u nemo: won't | 12:15 |
* w00t has no idea how that makes sense | 12:15 | |
w00t | but that means the example needs changing or that needs fixing I guess - want a bug? | 12:15 |
lbt | sure | 12:15 |
lbt | it rather insists on action being post-args | 12:16 |
lbt | definitely a bug | 12:16 |
lbt | (in the docs) | 12:16 |
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lbt | avtually - don't worry about the bug | 12:17 |
w00t | lbt: also re https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385 - yes, I only installed that SDK like... while in berlin, or something | 12:17 |
w00t | I already filed it, too late :P | 12:17 |
lbt | :) | 12:17 |
w00t | #389 | 12:18 |
lbt | 385 is odd because that's in the .ks | 12:18 |
Stskeeps | show me the .ks? | 12:18 |
w00t | is that directed at me? if so - which ks? | 12:19 |
Stskeeps | (lbt) | 12:19 |
lbt | looking - I need the ks for the image | 12:21 |
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w00t | oof. /bin/bash going to busybox I guess is going to result in problems with the sdk script too.. | 12:21 |
lbt | ah | 12:22 |
w00t | not related to that bug | 12:22 |
w00t | sorry for crossing topics :P | 12:22 |
lbt | Stskeeps: hmmm Old SDK : https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/0.20120209.1/images/mer-sdk-i486-chroot/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot-latest.ks | 12:22 |
lbt | latest : https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/latest/images/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120517.1.ks | 12:23 |
lbt | ln -s /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab | 12:23 |
lbt | I have to go ... back in a couple of hours | 12:23 |
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Stskeeps | self/mounts ? | 12:56 |
Stskeeps | it should be /proc/mounts, i would think | 12:56 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83mChc-hQE | 13:27 |
sroedal | w00t: looks familiar :) | 13:28 |
sroedal | did you like my quitting animation? | 13:28 |
w00t | sroedal: yes | 13:28 |
w00t | though I think there's a bit of a bug somewhere | 13:28 |
sroedal | in what way? | 13:29 |
w00t | probably more in qtwayland than your animation - but quite often I get stuck with the last part of the now dead client stuck on screen when closing the last one | 13:29 |
w00t | you actually see it when I close the last one there | 13:29 |
sroedal | hmm, ok | 13:29 |
w00t | I clicked and dragged on the desktop to make it redraw and go away | 13:29 |
sroedal | ah | 13:30 |
Stskeeps | w00t, wow | 13:30 |
w00t | sroedal: i'm also curious why the client drawing sometimes seems to sieze up - don't know if it's related | 13:31 |
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sroedal | good question, might be some issues in WaylandSurfaceItem | 13:31 |
w00t | fun times | 13:32 |
w00t | still | 13:33 |
w00t | i'm impressed at how relatively smoothly this is | 13:33 |
w00t | smooth | 13:33 |
w00t | english is hard | 13:33 |
Stskeeps | now imagine it with actual gpu acceleration.. | 13:34 |
w00t | this is only 800x600 btw | 13:34 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:35 |
w00t | so i guess that helps | 13:35 |
w00t | but still, 800x600 in a VM with software rendering, ahem | 13:35 |
w00t | not bad | 13:35 |
* w00t eyes the switcher code and ponders how to merge the wayland stuff over to it | 13:35 | |
Sage_ | lbt, Stskeeps: mer release updates started? | 13:37 |
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sroedal | w00t: I see that the last client stops animating when the second last client is closed | 14:15 |
w00t | sroedal: let me take a look | 14:16 |
sroedal | not able to reproduce that issue on desktop though | 14:16 |
Stskeeps | it -might- be a mesa issue though | 14:16 |
Stskeeps | it's 8.0.3 with some patches backported for wayland later version usage | 14:17 |
w00t | sroedal: reproduced that at least once, yes | 14:17 |
w00t | it started again some random seconds later, as usual | 14:17 |
sroedal | without any mouse input or anything inbetween? | 14:17 |
sroedal | which platform plugin is the compositor using? | 14:18 |
w00t | eglfs | 14:18 |
w00t | no input needed, it's pretty random | 14:18 |
Stskeeps | specifically 3baa4b71178af5fb311ccbcdaa0175ccd517f49a , 559ce109c8ebccbfefd7317776c386cc9be55839 , afc5047613d9bf25884053beb6791e891e703265 on top of 8.0.3 | 14:18 |
w00t | hmm | 14:19 |
* Stskeeps looks at mesa history | 14:19 | |
w00t | i think i get freezes with eglfs too actually, so it can't be a wayland-specific issue | 14:19 |
sroedal | w00t: try to change case ThreadedOpenGL: return true; to case ThreadedOpenGL: return false; in qeglfsintegration.cpp | 14:19 |
sroedal | to see if it's a threading issue | 14:19 |
Stskeeps | i'll do that | 14:20 |
w00t | yes, eglfs freezes too | 14:20 |
sroedal | and comment out the if (hooks ... stuff in the same function, to make sure it gets executed | 14:20 |
w00t | but mouse input helps there | 14:20 |
sroedal | hmm | 14:20 |
sroedal | w00t: when running qmlscene with eglfs? | 14:20 |
w00t | yes | 14:20 |
w00t | on that same demo app | 14:20 |
sroedal | right | 14:20 |
Stskeeps | w00t: building qtbase with threadedopengl false | 14:24 |
w00t | ok | 14:24 |
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Stskeeps | w00t: other factors may also be cursor blink, screen blanking, or shitty fbdev implementation :P | 14:26 |
w00t | Stskeeps: true | 14:26 |
* w00t wonders how to turn blinking off | 14:27 | |
Stskeeps | /sys/...../fbcon/ | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | echo 0 > | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | something | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | w00t: oh, and ideally we wouldn't have fbcon at all, just a fb0 that's ours | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | but that's more advanced :) | 14:27 |
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w00t | /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/cursor_blink? | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | yes | 14:28 |
w00t | that seems to have done the trick | 14:28 |
Stskeeps | it stops freezing?? | 14:28 |
w00t | well, it's inconsistent to reproduce, so hard to tell | 14:28 |
w00t | trying a few runs | 14:28 |
w00t | i think it may have tho.. | 14:29 |
w00t | actually, yes | 14:29 |
w00t | ... | 14:30 |
w00t | just as i say that, it freezes | 14:30 |
w00t | so "helped a lot" rather than "completely fixed" perhaps | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | so probably a fbcon intermix | 14:30 |
w00t | next step: turn off fbcon? :P | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | mm | 14:31 |
w00t | uhoh | 14:31 |
* w00t sent his VM into swappy death | 14:31 | |
Stskeeps | hehe | 14:31 |
w00t | so, note to the unwary: mer VM with 256mb can only take a compositor plus ~13 minimer qmlscenes before swapping to death :P | 14:33 |
Stskeeps | excellent, we have a product | 14:34 |
w00t | you know, it actually feels like we're a lot closer to one than we were before berlin :P | 14:34 |
Stskeeps | also, where the heck did you get swap from.. | 14:34 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:34 |
w00t | I didn't | 14:34 |
w00t | I think that was the problem | 14:34 |
w00t | the whole system just locked hard | 14:34 |
Stskeeps | probably(TM) | 14:34 |
Stskeeps | Bostik: btw, i have a small bunch of updates to modular-qt-specs for later-than-alpha1 | 14:35 |
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Bostik | excellent | 14:43 |
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Stskeeps | will make sure to push them within next couple of days | 14:44 |
Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PMlgIoTuJ4 is on top of them | 14:44 |
sledges | Mer is weirdly welcomed/first-impressioned in a UK environment due to its pronunciation - as in murmur (mur, mer). How do you pronounce it? Is only MeeGo Reconstructed or also sea (in French), in which Nokia Osakeyhtiö drowned? :) | 14:48 |
Stskeeps | sea is what it comes from :P | 14:49 |
Stskeeps | originally it was called M-R back in the days | 14:49 |
Stskeeps | maemo-reconstructed, just a research prototype.. | 14:49 |
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Stskeeps | from my own perspective, since i'm a nine inch nails fan, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNeTc68g084 | 14:50 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:50 |
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sledges | so should I adopt a French pronunciation to my colleagues then? :) | 14:54 |
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Stskeeps | 2` | 15:19 |
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sledges | 8) | 15:24 |
lbt | sledges: anglicised french | 15:26 |
lbt | mare | 15:27 |
lbt | Sage_: yes, updatestorm was underway | 15:28 |
sledges | as in hare? lbt :) | 15:28 |
lbt | yes, but that's just my habit | 15:28 |
lbt | Mer only exists on the internet where no-one can hear you anyway :) | 15:29 |
sledges | :D wrong, everyone can hear me in the office | 15:29 |
lbt | it's your product you're building on it - you get to pick how to pronounce it too | 15:29 |
lbt | *g* | 15:29 |
w00t | t'internets | 15:30 |
lbt | aye lad | 15:30 |
w00t | home of mer and more (ok, joke may only apply in certain languages) | 15:30 |
lbt | :D | 15:31 |
sledges | thanks for providing a set of pronunciations to pick from ;) | 15:31 |
w00t | unrelatedly, I swear that @AntiJokeCat is my new favorite thing on the internet | 15:32 |
* lbt is liking that too :) | 15:33 | |
lbt | MOOOOO | 15:35 |
w00t | MOOOOO | 15:35 |
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sledges | took me a while to crack onto that humour... | 15:44 |
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timoph | hmmh. backlog doesn't go far enough to see who pinged me | 15:57 |
* timoph hasn't checked irc for a couple of days | 15:57 | |
lbt | [25/06/2012 16:18] <Stskeeps> timoph: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1227178&postcount=75 | 15:58 |
timoph | thanks | 15:58 |
timoph | interesting | 15:59 |
E-P | timoph o/, how was your midsummer? | 15:59 |
timoph | relaxing | 16:00 |
* timoph did nothing | 16:00 | |
timoph | btw, planning to kickoff my Mer n900 alarm clock project after akademy | 16:01 |
E-P | what kind of alarm clock are you planning to do? | 16:02 |
timoph | internet radio + clock | 16:03 |
timoph | basically I'll take nemo as the starting point and replace the ui with my own | 16:04 |
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timoph | and remove everything I don't need in the clock | 16:05 |
E-P | cool | 16:05 |
timoph | but first I need to write the clock application so I'll have something boot into :) | 16:06 |
timoph | oh. and I'm planning to use this thing as an excuse to get familiar with Qt5 | 16:09 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: so what is release status? | 17:24 |
lbt | done release, c.obs, release notes and writing email - need to do ks | 17:25 |
Stskeeps | ok | 17:25 |
* Stskeeps sanity checks | 17:27 | |
Stskeeps | looks ok so far | 17:27 |
Stskeeps | did you remember tagging of release? | 17:28 |
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lbt | yep - and pushed | 17:29 |
Stskeeps | ok | 17:30 |
Stskeeps | i'm going to start admitting some changes then | 17:30 |
lbt | OK - I have the MIPS port of ppl to check too | 17:30 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:31 |
Stskeeps | i'm thinking to restart with rpmlint merge and then rebuild --all | 17:31 |
Stskeeps | er, start | 17:31 |
Stskeeps | to verify everything builds OK | 17:31 |
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lbt | OK | 17:32 |
* lbt looks at tasks... wonder about setting up the phosts as workers for a turbo-boost :) | 17:33 | |
Stskeeps | a good time to test them, at least.. | 17:33 |
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Stskeeps | just make sure they have working ntp | 17:33 |
Stskeeps | phost4 has been giving me nightmare | 17:33 |
Stskeeps | s | 17:33 |
lbt | puppet should take care of that | 17:34 |
Stskeeps | i've seen it drift to 300-400s, so something is awry | 17:34 |
lbt | yep, it has | 17:34 |
lbt | hmm | 17:34 |
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Stskeeps | what host is 'be' on again? | 17:35 |
Stskeeps | i'd like to request upping it's disk space a bit if possible | 17:35 |
Stskeeps | 11g left on /data is not my cup of tea | 17:36 |
lbt | sure | 17:36 |
lbt | it's on phost1 iirc | 17:36 |
lbt | which is rather tight | 17:36 |
Stskeeps | mm | 17:36 |
Stskeeps | can you give me 50? | 17:36 |
lbt | tight on cpu, not disk | 17:37 |
lbt | be data is 100G, have 600G free | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | ah | 17:37 |
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Stskeeps | uh.. | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:37 |
lbt | so +100G | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | ./dev/vdd 99G 84G 11G 90% /data | 17:38 |
lbt | 600G free on the phost VG | 17:38 |
lbt | so I can extend the LV - but it needs a reboot of the VM to pick it up sadly | 17:38 |
Stskeeps | that's OK | 17:39 |
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Stskeeps | it's the best time to do this now tbh | 17:39 |
Stskeeps | in between finishing a release and before i start building new | 17:39 |
Stskeeps | you have time for extending the data base, keeping our copyprj ideas in mind? | 17:39 |
Stskeeps | maybe 200 gb would be good | 17:39 |
lbt | Extending logical volume be_data to 200.00 GiB | 17:39 |
lbt | so done | 17:40 |
Stskeeps | ok, and now what? :P | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | i'm logged into be | 17:41 |
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Stskeeps | reboot? | 17:41 |
lbt | init 0, not 6 | 17:41 |
lbt | since we need a new kvm instance | 17:41 |
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Stskeeps | ok | 17:42 |
Stskeeps | doing init 0 | 17:42 |
lbt | down | 17:43 |
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lbt | it wants an e2fsck of the fs before a resize | 17:44 |
lbt | probably >X days | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | i'm not in a rush | 17:44 |
lbt | done ... resize | 17:47 |
Stskeeps | (now resize, you mean) | 17:48 |
lbt | I'm doing a resize now | 17:48 |
lbt | would probably be bad for us both to try that at once... lets not do that :P | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | yess | 17:49 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:49 |
lbt | resize done | 17:49 |
lbt | restarting be | 17:50 |
lbt | mmm ... no console | 17:50 |
lbt | /dev/vdd 197G 83G 105G 45% /data | 17:50 |
Stskeeps | better | 17:51 |
lbt | I wonder about getting an SSD on one of our phosts for a mysql server | 17:51 |
lbt | anyhow.... not now | 17:51 |
phaeron | what's happening :) | 17:52 |
lbt | quick diskspace upgrade on the CI be | 17:52 |
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phaeron | ok | 17:52 |
lbt | thinking to start some workers on phost6/7 | 17:52 |
lbt | ok - going to put kettle on for tea ... bbiam | 17:54 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: apologies about all the sdk task bugs, just collecting tools we need | 17:59 |
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lbt | they're useful | 18:13 |
lbt | adding urls to upstream or meego obs projects would also help : | 18:13 |
lbt | :) | 18:13 |
Stskeeps | yes | 18:13 |
Stskeeps | i'm guessing people can google hough | 18:13 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:13 |
iekku | Stskeeps, i'm here also and i haven't paid my google bill | 18:14 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 18:14 |
iekku | ;) | 18:14 |
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Sage_ | problems with mer wiki? | 19:05 |
Sage_ | ah, now it works | 19:05 |
Sage_ | lbt: found bug from sdk | 19:07 |
Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4155982 | 19:07 |
lbt | what's $EDITOR set to ? | 19:08 |
Sage_ | empty, so it defaults to vi that isn't available in sdk | 19:08 |
lbt | I wonder if vim should provide vi ? | 19:09 |
Sage_ | it does | 19:10 |
Sage_ | bash-3.2$ rpm -qf /bin/vi | 19:10 |
Sage_ | vim-minimal-7.3.177-1.25.i486 | 19:10 |
Sage_ | or actually vim-minimal does | 19:10 |
yunta_ | (let's make it all just symlink to emacs) | 19:10 |
lbt | yunta_: sounds reasonable | 19:10 |
yunta_ | :D | 19:10 |
* Sage_ gets a baseballbat | 19:10 | |
lbt | M-x baseball-bat | 19:10 |
* yunta_ is slowly backing out of the room.. | 19:11 | |
lbt | Sage_: so is the issue that you'd like vim-minimal installed by default and it's not? | 19:11 |
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Sage_ | lbt: http://pastie.org/4155998 after installing vim-minimal | 19:12 |
lbt | OK, so you really do need emacs? | 19:12 |
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Sage_ | no. :) | 19:12 |
lbt | so the issue is that Mer's vim != your host vim and hence ~/.vimrc breaks | 19:14 |
Stskeeps | http://opensource.palm.com/WOCE/index.html might interest some | 19:14 |
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lbt | Sage_: so is that OK ? | 19:19 |
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Sage_ | lbt: well, removed .vimrc from my $HOME and installed vim-minimal and everything is now ok. | 19:29 |
lbt | Sage_: yeah - that's not something I can think of a trivial workaround for | 19:31 |
lbt | it's a bit like having an NFS $HOME between a solaris, irix and sco box.... that was always fun | 19:32 |
lbt | I tend to agree that vim-minimal should be in the SDK though | 19:33 |
lbt | I was surprised it's not | 19:33 |
* Sage_ pushed some updates to review. | 19:34 | |
Sage_ | did it all inside mer sdk :) | 19:35 |
lbt | yay | 19:36 |
Sage_ | 6.0.1 that is | 19:36 |
Sage_ | worked quite nicely and that vim thing was only problem | 19:36 |
lbt | good | 19:37 |
lbt | I am really, really tempted to put gitk in there ... but tk/tcl... hmmm ... I can't see a Wayland compatible tk/tcl anytime soon. | 19:37 |
Sage_ | I would like if I could select some host binaries that could be started from mer sdk shell | 19:37 |
lbt | the idea of the SDK is that you can run stuff in the host and operate on shared filesystems | 19:38 |
lbt | or am I missing what you mean ? | 19:38 |
Sage_ | e.g. if I type "kate" in the mer-sdk terminal I get command not found. | 19:38 |
lbt | yeah | 19:39 |
lbt | hmm | 19:39 |
Sage_ | Would be nice if one could define that if I type kate it would actually launch it from host fs | 19:39 |
Sage_ | of cource that should be somehow selected what binaries one would like to run like that | 19:39 |
lbt | try ... chroot /parentroot /usr/bin/kate | 19:40 |
Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4156114 | 19:40 |
lbt | sudo ... | 19:42 |
lbt | yep .. that works | 19:43 |
lbt | but .. it's so, so bad | 19:43 |
lbt | I think it'll start kde processes as root and other evil things | 19:43 |
lbt | so it may need some work... but do-able I think | 19:43 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/4156140 | 19:45 |
lbt | sudo chroot /parentroot/ su - david -c /usr/bin/kate | 19:45 |
Sage_ | :P | 19:46 |
lbt | seems to be a reasonable incantation Sage_ | 19:46 |
lbt | alias that and you're good :) | 19:46 |
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Sage_ | eh :D | 19:47 |
lbt | alias kate="sudo chroot /parentroot/ su - david -c /usr/bin/kate 2>/dev/null" | 19:48 |
lbt | I guess you can normally run : kate <file> | 19:49 |
Sage_ | "kate -u file" is what I normally use when I have existing kate in the background already so it just opens the file and terminal stays available | 19:50 |
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lbt | sudo chroot /parentroot/ su - david -c "cd $PWD; kate <file>" works for me to start a new kate | 19:51 |
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lbt | sudo chroot /parentroot/ su - david -c "cd $PWD; kate -u <file>" also works | 19:52 |
lbt | so now to try and fit that into an alias | 19:52 |
lbt | hmm or better, a generic function | 19:55 |
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lbt | Sage_: function kate() { sudo chroot /parentroot/ su - $USER -c "cd $PWD; kate -u $1 2>/dev/null"; } | 19:59 |
lbt | relies on having path equivalence | 19:59 |
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lbt | hmm twitter bash 1-liners, not sure it'll trend... | 20:01 |
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