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| Stskeeps | zzz | 05:18 |
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| timoph | morn | 05:25 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders if he can do a qt-related demo today.. | 05:33 | |
| timoph | I'm betting on yes | 05:34 |
| timoph | :) | 05:34 |
| * timoph plans to try to survive zombie apocalypse today | 05:35 | |
| Stskeeps | they're rather time limited and i'd like to show the "change one line and deploy to device" scenario.. | 05:35 |
| timoph | you're at QtCS? | 05:36 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 05:36 |
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| timoph | what's the wibe among Qt devs there? | 05:37 |
| timoph | regarding future & all that fud | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | fairly good, people are very up for finishing up qt5 and getting it out the door | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's a open source project, so | 05:38 |
| timoph | great to hear | 05:38 |
| timoph | yep. I think I said it somewhere that I believe that Qt will survive even if N totally abandons it | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:38 |
| timoph | it's just too good stuff to waste | 05:38 |
| timoph | btw, apparently I've done something right at work. I was told I got a raise just before leaving for vacation | 05:39 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 05:39 |
| Stskeeps | congrats :) | 05:40 |
| timoph | something in the lines of "don't be surprised when you check your next paycheck" | 05:40 |
| timoph | :) | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | at least your customer seemed very happy about your work | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: ah, so "where is my paycheck"? ;) | 05:40 |
| timoph | x) | 05:40 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly | 05:41 | |
| Stskeeps | do we have quilt in sdk anywhere? | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | oh wait, mer core has quilt | 05:41 |
| timoph | problem solved :) | 05:41 |
| timoph | mer to the rescue | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | i just want to try and disspell obs bad reputation | 05:41 |
| timoph | that reminds me, we should try to resurrect the creator-obs plugin | 05:42 |
| timoph | and get mer target working with creator | 05:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:42 |
| * timoph adds a sticky note to try the plugin after failing to survive the zombie apocalypse | 05:43 | |
| timoph | I guess it should work at least with older versions of creator. planning to check if it works with the current code | 05:44 |
| timoph | and figure out how to start maintaining it | 05:45 |
| timoph | creator pluging development is a bit awkward since you need to compile the plugins with the creator code | 05:45 |
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| timoph | the plugins aren't independent from the creator code | 05:46 |
| * timoph made testplanner/runner-ui work as qtcreator plugins back in the meego-qa times | 05:49 | |
| Stskeeps | cool | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | didnt know that | 05:49 |
| timoph | hmmh. I wonder if that code still exists | 05:50 |
| timoph | seems it does | 05:51 |
| timoph | to be fair - I did the prototyping for it and based on that kyranto did the implementation that you see in the source tree | 05:55 |
| timoph | I liked doing that stuff. building hacky proof of concept prototypes that other people used as a starting poing | 05:57 |
| dm8tbr | timoph: that's the most fulfilling, isn't it. show it's possible and then let someone else take care of the menial work... ;) | 05:59 |
| timoph | yep :) | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | research and management? ;) | 06:08 |
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| timoph | hmmh. anyone remember the api to used to draw stuff on n9's standby screen | 06:20 |
| * timoph wants to draw mer logo to it :) | 06:20 | |
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| Stskeeps | something lpm | 06:23 |
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| timoph | hmmh. seems frals has done the work already :) | 06:25 |
| timoph | https://github.com/frals/lpmcustomizer | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 06:25 |
| phaeron | cool :D | 06:28 |
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| timoph | http://timoph.fi/kuvei/lpm.jpg \o/ | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: there's really no way to ask build to just stop before build? | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: \o/ | 06:54 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: build as in obs build or the build script or local build ? :D | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | as in 'build' | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | ie, stop after setting up chroot | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | before running rpmbuild | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: OK, for future reference, --shell < /dev/null | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | for osc build | 07:01 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: osc chroot doesn't setup the chroot ? | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | not in the way i'd like it to | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'm planning on demoing "how to make OBS a lot less painful for qt developers | 07:02 |
| phaeron | yeah in reference to conversation we had | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | 0yes | 07:06 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: i just made life a lot easier.. moment, will try to do a pastie demo | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: http://pastie.org/4136554 | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | please note no tarball step | 07:24 |
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| lbt | morning ll | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:32 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: any objections to breaking rpm strange upstream philosophies in order to make developer life easier? | 07:34 |
| lbt | eg? | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'd like to be able to short-circuit to making binary packages | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | they dont like it as it allows people not to use pristine sources | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | and well | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | developers are the sources of pristine sources.. | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:36 |
| lbt | ie : build --cd-to-this-dir-do-make-install-and-package-it src/ | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | .. ish | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | look at my pastie | 07:37 |
| lbt | --rsync-src=. --rsync-dest=/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | right | 07:37 |
| lbt | yeah - I was writing that at the same time as the guys who did the patches that went upstream :) | 07:38 |
| phaeron | it should work with a cloned git too | 07:39 |
| phaeron | but different story | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:40 |
| lbt | and bind-mount depending on what you want | 07:40 |
| lbt | what about using osc build to make the sb2 target? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: one way of doing it, sure | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | my gripe there would be that it would be a PITA to setup rpm build directories.. | 07:43 |
| lbt | skipprep ? | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | just added that functionality | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | for demo purpose | 07:44 |
| lbt | OK - rpmbuild ? | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | it --short-circuit --bc instead of --ba | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | .. i want a better way | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | just showing general concept | 07:45 |
| lbt | I'd be happy to hack rpmbuild | 07:45 |
| lbt | I think it forces some hoops | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:46 |
| lbt | the problem would be the unreliability - some spec files would ignore any hacks | 07:46 |
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| Stskeeps | sure | 07:47 |
| lbt | the objective here is to synchronise/share a desktop source tree with an rpm/build/sb2 clean environment and support incremental make-driven packaging without make clean each time | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:48 |
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| lbt | why didn't you say that :P | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | and for the nasty packages, well, those aren't the 95% of developers anyway.. | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:48 |
| lbt | true | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | but even being able to remove the tarball step is a lot less time | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | so that's the angle i attack first | 07:48 |
| lbt | you know - this is something I could do quite quickly; wondering if you'd rather focus on something I can't do like the llvm VMs ? | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | can i tell you in 40 mins? :P | 07:53 |
| lbt | :) | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | demos here at 10:30 and i want to see if i can demonstrate at that point a sane development cycle | 07:53 |
| lbt | go for it | 07:54 |
| lbt | http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki/Packaging-Qt ? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | i took notes | 07:55 |
| * lbt goes back to the infra cleanup/security updates | 07:56 | |
| phaeron | lbt: Stskeeps gets all the fun :D | 07:56 |
| Bostik | "Carsten, merproject.org, packaged qt5 since forever, etc" | 08:02 |
| Bostik | good to know our timespan has been noticed | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's meant to be understood as "in mer we've had packaged qt5 since forever" | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | instead of me doing it | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | just wrote notes too damn quickly :) | 08:03 |
| Bostik | hehe, good enough and personally I'm fine with that :) | 08:03 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: OK, home:stskeeps:skipprep contains a rpm that has --skipprep functionality | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | it's best combined with rpmbuild -bb | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | and it skips %prep section | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | this is on ci obs fwiw | 08:33 |
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| lbt | ok | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | i got it to build 'acl' this way by some osc/'build' hacker | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | y | 08:40 |
| * lbt idly wonders if we should permit user branches (for maintainers) in core git repos | 08:41 | |
| Stskeeps | gerrit topic branches, maybe.. | 08:41 |
| lbt | to ease collaboration | 08:42 |
| lbt | but just an idle thought | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw, submissions are reachable through core git repos | 08:43 |
| lbt | right now I'm doing the exciting job of security updates on our VMs - expect some reboots as kernels change :/ | 08:48 |
| lbt | I won't touch anything central whilst you may be demoing | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | demo was skipped, didn't manage to get to the state i wanted to be in time | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | just dont reboot CI right now if it's ok | 08:49 |
| lbt | sure | 08:49 |
| lbt | when you have time we'll chat about phost migrations - the 2 new ones are dual-core 8 thread, 32Gb RAM 6Tb | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | i have time now :P | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | just fixing some mesa-wayland stuff | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a list of VM-to-phost mappings: | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 08:51 |
| lbt | yes, run "vms" on zathras | 08:51 |
| lbt | gah pastie.org | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:53 |
| lbt | https://gist.github.com/2977605 | 08:53 |
| lbt | .doesn't show roles like workers | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | ok, we can probably move crepo/csrc/cbe/cfe ? | 08:53 |
| lbt | I'm thinking to make phost2/4 vm hosts | 08:55 |
| lbt | so step 1 is 6/7 -> new workers for CI | 08:55 |
| lbt | clean up 2/4 to be plain phosts | 08:56 |
| lbt | make VMs for CI on 2 or 4 | 08:56 |
| lbt | move CI from monster to VMs | 08:56 |
| lbt | clean up and retire monster | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:57 |
| lbt | say 2 for CI vms | 08:57 |
| lbt | we can move the community stuff to 4 | 08:57 |
| lbt | and expand use of 5 for img | 08:57 |
| lbt | hmm.... traffic-wise - maybe invert that | 08:57 |
| lbt | in amongst this there are some things that need ssl applying too | 08:58 |
| lbt | we can also bring up a signer | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:00 |
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| phaeron | I read that singer | 09:15 |
| lbt | heh | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: sounds like a good appliance.. each time a build succeeds, it sings | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:16 |
| lbt | alterego: you around ? | 09:16 |
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| phaeron | sings to the tune of your build system :D | 09:19 |
| * lbt has lost the merproject DNS server... | 09:24 | |
| lbt | I know it's around here somewhere | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 09:24 |
| lbt | it's on the internet - how hard can it be to find? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | nmap 0.0.0.0/0 ? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:25 |
| lbt | waiting.... | 09:26 |
| lbt | oh, I got IPv6 for phost1 aswell | 09:26 |
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| lbt | ah, found it :) | 09:30 |
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| * Stskeeps waits for qtdeclarative to build.. | 09:38 | |
| jonwil | Finally found a repair place that can fix my N900 :) | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 09:40 |
| * phaeron tries to make sense of what obs is doing .. | 09:41 | |
| jonwil | They need to replace the whole screen assembly and its costing me $149 which is much cheaper than a new phone would be :) | 09:41 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: getting there, then | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | ugh | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | fucking ugh | 10:08 |
| w00t | ? | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/4137029 | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | remember, we're on actual modern compilers.. | 10:10 |
| w00t | urrm | 10:11 |
| w00t | that's intriguing | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | i guess i should show it to sroedal/jlind.. | 10:12 |
| * Stskeeps peeks around | 10:12 | |
| w00t | well | 10:14 |
| w00t | is it linking that to glib? | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | well a .a file can't naturally be linked | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | it should include a link to glib | 10:15 |
| w00t | no | 10:15 |
| w00t | otherwise, platformsupport will be pulling in X too, and I really doubt you want that | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | what? | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | glib doesn't link to x11 for me | 10:16 |
| w00t | no, but platformsupport contains some X stuff | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | .. not sure what you're talking about | 10:17 |
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| Stskeeps | anyway, i solved it | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:17 |
| w00t | platformsupport links in loads of crap | 10:17 |
| w00t | you do not want it to be linking directly against all the libs it uses | 10:17 |
| w00t | otherwise you will end up with a massive dependency mess | 10:17 |
| w00t | there was a thread about it a while ago, trying to find it | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, ok | 10:19 |
| w00t | http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2012-March/002500.html | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | so, how does it make sure that it links to glib, which it uses? | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:21 |
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| Stskeeps | @!$@ finally | 10:22 |
| w00t | I don't know | 10:22 |
| * Stskeeps boots vm | 10:23 | |
| w00t | that thread never really had a proper resolution I think | 10:23 |
| w00t | built? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | built. | 10:23 |
| w00t | nice | 10:24 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: in the copyprj scenario we talked about, only project link is changed or also the repository path ? | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | project link, but in a later scenario we might also change repo path | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | but that's another story | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | project link only is first | 10:32 |
| phaeron | trying to word explanation | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: food is ready downstairs | 10:37 |
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| w00t | ooh | 10:39 |
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| * w00t is still in a network discussion | 10:42 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron did either of you possibly update bz1 bugzilla version yesterday? | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | i haven't touched anything | 10:44 |
| lbt | I didn't think so - just wondering | 10:45 |
| lbt | it may have automatically done a security update | 10:45 |
| phaeron | lbt: no | 10:46 |
| lbt | 2012-06-23 06:31:27 upgrade bugzilla3 3.6.2.0-4.4 3.6.2.0-4.5 | 10:46 |
| lbt | I was asleep ! | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 10:46 |
| lbt | I am *so* glad I comitted all my changes to git | 10:46 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: so you're not sleep-walking but sleep-upgrading? | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | this is puppet? | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:46 |
| lbt | hmm .. could be | 10:47 |
| lbt | I'm going to shutdown bz for a bit | 10:53 |
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| phaeron | going to eat | 11:00 |
| phaeron | hmm I think I fixed it :D | 11:02 |
| phaeron | but more testing later | 11:03 |
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| Macer | wow | 11:45 |
| Macer | the instructions to get mer or plasma on a tegra 2 are awful heh | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to hardware adaptation, it's messy business | 11:46 |
| Macer | does anybody have any good instructions for installing on a tegra.. ie: for a tf101 with an unlocked bootloader? | 11:46 |
| Macer | is there something that is easily flashed that might work? | 11:46 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: yeah :-/ | 11:47 |
| Macer | http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/point_of_view_nvidia_tegra2/readme.txt | 11:47 |
| Macer | that is the only thing i can find that even remotely looks like soviet russia instructions about flashing | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | looks less insane than other things i've seen.. | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | :p | 11:48 |
| Macer | i knwo there was a youtube video of someone running active on a tf101 but there are no good instructions on how to do it with mer/plasma | 11:48 |
| Macer | that seems to be holding things back a bit.. people want to use it.. but can't install it because there are no instructions for their device ;) | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | :nod; | 11:50 |
| Macer | i was able to get the nvflash going for my tf101 and even made a backup so my bootloader is unlocked... i just need to find something that can be flashed to it | 11:54 |
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| Macer | like an easy tf101.img or something :) | 11:54 |
| Macer | is there nothing like that around? | 11:54 |
| Macer | if someone makes something ... i will write the instructions for you so people can actually use what you are trying to make | 11:55 |
| Macer | i'm sure a ton of people with older tf101s would love to get rid of android and use something a little more.... linux | 11:55 |
| vgrade | Macer, \o | 12:03 |
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| Macer | hey vgrade ... do you have an img for the tf101? | 12:04 |
| vgrade | Macer, nope, where did we get to | 12:06 |
| vgrade | we got you running nvflash | 12:07 |
| Macer | i got to the point where i was ripping the current partition table | 12:07 |
| vgrade | i remember | 12:07 |
| Macer | and made the partition.txt | 12:07 |
| vgrade | so you have backup of the different partitions | 12:07 |
| Macer | but after that i kind of gave up.. didn't really know where to go from there | 12:07 |
| Macer | yes | 12:07 |
| Macer | that part was easy ;) | 12:07 |
| vgrade | on you go then | 12:08 |
| Macer | http://vetus.scientiam.org/apps/transformer/partitiontable.txt | 12:09 |
| Macer | that was where i left off | 12:09 |
| vgrade | so you need to split your partition 6 | 12:10 |
| vgrade | into kernel, commandline and ramdisk | 12:10 |
| vgrade | http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack%2C_Edit%2C_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images | 12:11 |
| Macer | http://vetus.scientiam.org/apps/transformer/ | 12:11 |
| vgrade | then repack them | 12:11 |
| Macer | o.....k. | 12:11 |
| vgrade | and flash the boot.bin back to partition 6 | 12:11 |
| vgrade | see if it still boots anddriod | 12:11 |
| Macer | my transformer isn't rooted | 12:12 |
| Macer | (Note added by lxrose: These commands don't work if your phone is not rooted and the permissions are not set.) | 12:12 |
| Macer | so i guess i have to root my transformer? | 12:12 |
| * Macer hopes that is easily done | 12:13 | |
| RaYmAn | learn nvflash :P | 12:13 |
| vgrade | what commands? root in the andriod system? | 12:13 |
| vgrade | its not required for this hack | 12:13 |
| RaYmAn | root is irrelevant when you have nvflash - you can just read and flash boot with that | 12:13 |
| vgrade | as long as you have an unloacked bl | 12:13 |
| vgrade | RaYmAn, \o | 12:14 |
| vgrade | looks like there is a new kernel around as well, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/How_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_Asus_EEEPad_Transformer | 12:14 |
| RaYmAn | wait, what? Tf101 doesn't have unlocked vs locked bls at all. | 12:14 |
| Macer | RaYmAn: that is what i thought | 12:15 |
| Macer | RaYmAn: i thought the older tf101s were unlocked | 12:16 |
| RaYmAn | no | 12:16 |
| Macer | but later they were | 12:16 |
| Macer | oh... so they don't work then? | 12:16 |
| RaYmAn | it's more like, All TF101's are bootloader unlocked, but we managed to get the keys to the kingdom ;) | 12:17 |
| Macer | from what i understood an older B60 tf101 was able to be flashed but later models were not | 12:17 |
| RaYmAn | So as far as you're concerned, all are unlocked. | 12:17 |
| Macer | oh... ok | 12:17 |
| RaYmAn | but you can't really say some are unlocked or some aren't | 12:17 |
| RaYmAn | Macer: all tf101's have nvflash with our wheelie magic ;)! http://androidroot.mobi/2012/05/27/introducing-wheelie-nvflash-for-asus-transformer-tf101-b70/ | 12:17 |
| Macer | well.. at the time i thought the concensus was that B70+ were locked heh | 12:17 |
| Macer | ah... ok.. well.. last i checked was before may ;) | 12:18 |
| Macer | RaYmAn: so is there a generic image i can flash then? | 12:18 |
| RaYmAn | yeah, what I'm mostly saying is that it's a misconception that some are unlocked. We just have the keys - doesn't make it unlocked :P | 12:18 |
| Macer | where it is just like.. nvflash mer.img | 12:18 |
| Macer | done? :) | 12:18 |
| Macer | heh | 12:18 |
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| Macer | oh wow... nice | 12:20 |
| Macer | ok... i'm going to have to wake up and do the wheelie thing heh | 12:20 |
| Macer | but i would really like to be able to flash mer/plasma to the thing | 12:20 |
| Macer | or mer and then install plasma onto it if that is at all possible | 12:20 |
| Macer | and make some instructions for the mere mortals | 12:21 |
| Macer | so people can actually USE mer/active | 12:21 |
| Macer | all of us prolatariats feel as though we have our noses pressed up against the windows watching the developer bourgeoisie wine and dine :) | 12:22 |
| vgrade | Macer, once you can upack, repack. Create a kernel with options a http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide | 12:24 |
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| vgrade | and in your commandline add root=/dev/sdacard | 12:25 |
| vgrade | we can't do adaptations for all devices | 12:25 |
| vgrade | but we are here to help others to do bringups | 12:25 |
| Macer | ah i see.. so it's just a matter of getting that first image going huh? | 12:26 |
| vgrade | ? | 12:26 |
| Macer | would my images be able to be used across all tf101s? | 12:26 |
| Macer | where someone can just use what i have made and skip the unpacking/repacking part? | 12:26 |
| Macer | and simply flash? | 12:26 |
| vgrade | yes | 12:26 |
| vgrade | the unpack repack is to make sure your toolset works | 12:27 |
| Macer | ah ok. well... i'll read over that site in a moment and see what i can do | 12:27 |
| vgrade | there are lots of sites giving that information and the basyskom scripts are doing that | 12:27 |
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| Macer | but i haven't seen anything that is clear | 12:28 |
| Macer | maybe the unpacking/repacking part ... but there isn't somewhere where it is just "get this image" nvflash image.. done | 12:28 |
| RaYmAn | nvflash images aren't special. You just flash the boot.img created with --download :) | 12:29 |
| vgrade | Macer, if you want 'get this image, nvflash' then I suggest you get an Ipad | 12:32 |
| Macer | lol | 12:32 |
| vgrade | :) | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: what was the vendor of the SoC that vivaldi had, again? | 12:33 |
| Macer | vgrade: but if it is a common img then it should b that easy ;) | 12:33 |
| Macer | be | 12:33 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps amlogic | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | ah thanks | 12:33 |
| vgrade | Macer, common in what way | 12:34 |
| vgrade | common to tf's, tegra2 tabs, all andriod tabs | 12:35 |
| vgrade | each needs to be different due to differences in hadrware so require different kernels | 12:36 |
| Macer | per model of device | 12:36 |
| vgrade | we did ud the same filesystem on the vega and PoV tabs, just had differnet boot.bins | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: got the mali user land libs from there? | 12:36 |
| vgrade | Yes I have but only for a couple of versions of the API | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | that's ok, i just need one of them | 12:38 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, I can link later | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:39 |
| CosmoHill | woof vgrade et Stskeeps | 12:41 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill, |o | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: interesting, a10 egl libs are unstripped | 12:43 |
| vgrade | I've been working on mele a1000 and there's a guy on #arm-netbook who has been building the libs from his sdk | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:46 |
| vgrade | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10/ | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | could you for fun ask him if there's a way to share hardware buffers in the GPU? | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | .. or i could just read the page | 12:47 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, I'm not sure he's the guy to ask. Probably an ARM question | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:48 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, the sharing for wayland | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:48 |
| vgrade | what the Pi has | 12:49 |
| vgrade | is that a standard extension | 12:50 |
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| Stskeeps | not really | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | but i can do similar stuff on omap3 | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | andre__: were you in .cz or berlin these days? | 14:09 |
| andre__ | Stskeeps, I was in .cz until yesterday, and from tomorrow on again for a week | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | we're a few people here due to qtcs so | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | (berlin) | 14:11 |
| andre__ | Ah, pity. I'm in Dresden right now :) | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | ah alright | 14:12 |
| andre__ | I'm in Krakow in 9 days, but you're probably not around there :P | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah :P | 14:12 |
| andre__ | maybe next year I will make it to aKademy, didn't work out this year :( | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | i've been travelling 3 out of 4 weeks this month | 14:17 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I've implemented rewriting in exim on our internal smarthost - this should ensure all outgoing mail appears to come from the merproject.org domain. It may affect your rules | 15:24 |
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| CosmoHill | hey lbt | 15:53 |
| phaeron | back | 15:54 |
| lbt | hey CosmoHill | 15:55 |
| lbt | hey phaeron | 15:55 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: looking at a vauxhall astra coupé turbo atm | 15:57 |
| * CosmoHill looks / thinks a lot but doesn't act much | 15:58 | |
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| phaeron | lbt: https://github.com/Merproject/open-build-service/commit/e679826856763fff65cd6d44541dfea49768de8e | 16:01 |
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| lbt | phaeron: makes sense | 16:03 |
| phaeron | I tested the obs only scenario and this fixes it. I'll test now with mds. | 16:05 |
| phaeron | but it should work | 16:05 |
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| phaeron | lbt: I think we can build packages of this and start testing the new mer process | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | prjcopy process ? | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | progress | 18:00 |
| phaeron | yeah fixed the prjlink issue | 18:00 |
| phaeron | https://github.com/Merproject/open-build-service/commit/e679826856763fff65cd6d44541dfea49768de8e | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | so it does it right? ie, not rebuild everything | 18:02 |
| phaeron | yes rebuilt only one package whose srcmd5sum changed | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, cool | 18:02 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: the other unrelated thing : I kludged mds to return something on ls -b , but there is not information available about binary versions that can be returned | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | we have that data thoughl.. | 18:05 |
| phaeron | http://pastie.org/4138927 | 18:06 |
| phaeron | so not yet completely correct | 18:06 |
| phaeron | but at least it returned something now | 18:06 |
| phaeron | :d | 18:06 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | very happy to see prjcopy work | 18:07 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: where is the data , ls obs-repos/Core\:i586\:latest/Core_i586/i586/ shows all name.rpm and _repository?view=names is only names too | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, thought we generate that | 18:08 |
| phaeron | _repository?view=binaryversions contains hdrmd5 and metamd5 | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:09 |
| phaeron | :) | 18:10 |
| phaeron | just starting to get into mds | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | i'll grab mds2 for you if you want..sec | 18:10 |
| phaeron | there's a 2 ? | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mds2.py.txt , | 18:11 |
| phaeron | I also moved the serve_forever to separate thread so we can shutdown cleanly on ctrl-c | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/gitmds2.py.txt | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | this uses the git stuff a lot more | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | instead of Core:i586 we now have Core:GITREF:SUBDIR | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | not complete, sadly, but you're welcome to take it under your wings | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | this means you can out of the blue do for example Core:v2.6.37:i586 | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | which is where prjcopy+switch link comes in | 18:14 |
| phaeron | need more explanation to work on it .. design document or something | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 18:15 |
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| Stskeeps | mds2 = frontend, gitmds2.py = backend | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | and design document.. really? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:16 |
| phaeron | :D | 18:16 |
| phaeron | at least something to explain what the hell this .py is supposed to do :) | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | i've actually tried to document this one | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | and add comments | 18:17 |
| phaeron | docstrings --> sphinx would be a good start | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 18:18 |
| phaeron | have you seen imager documentation ? | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i think | 18:18 |
| phaeron | http://autodoc.meego.com/mint/imager/ | 18:19 |
| phaeron | I really like it , because I wrote it :D | 18:19 |
| phaeron | it even has screenshots now | 18:19 |
| phaeron | anyway not bragging... lets get prjcopy packaged and tested | 18:20 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: implemented SIGUSR1 to list running threads for fun .. could help with the long running watcher threads | 19:19 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 19:26 |
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| Stskeeps | i am starting to get significant suspicion that 'yum' in mer does not handle ~'s very well | 19:34 |
| w00t | again? | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | i went for "this can't possibly not work", something that was definately bigger | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | and still boom | 19:36 |
| lbt | /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/packageSack.py:from rpmUtils.miscutils import compareEVR | 19:45 |
| lbt | so yum uses the algorigthm there | 19:45 |
| lbt | use: from rpmUtils.miscutils import stringToVersion, compareEVR | 19:46 |
| lbt | and you can do some verification | 19:46 |
| lbt | I ran into this in revs | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://rpm.org/ticket/56 | 19:47 |
| lbt | I know | 19:47 |
| lbt | http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Packaging%2FGuidelines&action=historysubmit&diff=16825&oldid=8723 | 19:48 |
| lbt | 25 Oct 2010 .... | 19:48 |
| lbt | I think I logged a bug that the obs ~ handling != MeeGo ~ handling | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | fairly sure our ~ handling is buggy now | 19:50 |
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| Stskeeps | man, so much technical debt.. | 20:02 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, it happens to all of us | 20:21 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yep - that's why I'm so anal about getting the design understood early on | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | which, ~? | 20:22 |
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| lbt | most things | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 20:25 |
| lbt | isn't ~ defined in rpm but probably not reflected in rpmutils library | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | it is there | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | i traced it down and it has to be rpm being buggy.. | 20:26 |
| lbt | how is multi ~ handled? | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | not as good as the 4.10.0 patch | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | rpmutils == rpm-python | 20:28 |
| lbt | yes | 20:28 |
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| Stskeeps | which == rpm rpmvercmp deep down | 20:29 |
| lbt | no | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:29 |
| lbt | it doesn't call out to the C afaik | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | go look at labelCompare | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | it traces nicely down to rpmvercmp in the end | 20:29 |
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| lbt | http://lists.rpath.com/pipermail/mirrorball-commits/2010-March/000864.html | 20:33 |
| lbt | so I guess I was remembering the old approach | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes, perhaps | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | and that's not the rpmutils i have in sdk anyway | 20:34 |
| lbt | no, this was back doing REVS | 20:34 |
| Macer | ugh. i've just ripped apart my plasma tv trying to track down which board is broken | 20:34 |
| Macer | it keeps losing the left half of the screen | 20:34 |
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| lbt | Macer: like this ? http://imgur.com/a/Bcukp | 20:36 |
| Macer | no | 20:37 |
| Macer | it goes completely blank.. as if the left side shuts off | 20:37 |
| lbt | np - some guy on a bbs I see has that "left half of screen" issue.... | 20:37 |
| Macer | it flickers on an off as well | 20:37 |
| Macer | sometimes it will last for hours... but sometimes it will last 5 mins and completely shut off the left side | 20:37 |
| Macer | i just pulled .. checked.. and reseated the ss board to see if maybe it was sending bad power to the signal board | 20:38 |
| Macer | but it is almost impossible to find out which signal board is broken since there are 2 boards which control the signaling :-/ | 20:39 |
| Macer | after reseatingand reconnecting the ss board tho it seems to be kind of working. | 20:39 |
| Macer | so far so good. :) if i can fix it i was going to put this one in my son's room and i already ordered a new 46" lcd | 20:40 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t: qmlscene up and running on eglfs.. compositor tomorrow | 20:59 |
| * Stskeeps will go crash now | 20:59 | |
| phaeron | lbt: can you please update my email in ldap ? I tried from obs but it has no effect | 20:59 |
| phaeron | thanks | 20:59 |
| lbt | mer or meego ? | 21:00 |
| lbt | phaeron: and what to ? | 21:01 |
| phaeron | lbt: both if possible | 21:02 |
| lbt | gmail ? | 21:03 |
| lbt | done meego | 21:03 |
| phaeron | yeah , in pm | 21:03 |
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| lbt | adding rsync to SDK | 21:26 |
| phaeron | and ccache please :) | 21:30 |
| phaeron | lbt: ^^ | 21:31 |
| lbt | ok | 21:31 |
| CosmoHill | ccache :) | 21:31 |
| phaeron | CosmoHill: you approve ? :) | 21:32 |
| CosmoHill | probably | 21:32 |
| CosmoHill | never used it myself | 21:32 |
| CosmoHill | did give a distcc ago | 21:33 |
| phaeron | lbt: I tried finding the qmake cache that Stskeeps mentioned , but couldn't find much , only a blurb here : http://asoneofus.narod.ru/qt/qmake-guide.html#Details | 21:34 |
| phaeron | ccache + distcc is quite good , used it in my LFS days | 21:34 |
| lbt | phaeron: I think that cache is more a config store | 21:36 |
| CosmoHill | LFS? :) | 21:36 |
| CosmoHill | yay LFS | 21:36 |
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| phaeron | lbt: yeah so I'll clarify from Stskeeps tomorrow | 21:39 |
| CosmoHill | phaeron: LFS is on this server and it's now nicer than ever | 21:39 |
| phaeron | the maintenance overhead became too much | 21:40 |
| phaeron | anyway too tired now .. | 21:42 |
| CosmoHill | Mrs Brown's Boys is funny | 21:43 |
| CosmoHill | they leave the outtakes in the show | 21:43 |
| * CosmoHill looks at Stskeeps and wonders how the hell the Mer IRC guidelines was opened on his browser | 21:53 | |
| alterego | lbt: ah. sorry missed your messages, pm me your email and I'll send you the config file. | 22:04 |
| lbt | alterego: np - just seeing if you were around | 22:06 |
| alterego | Right, I'll just grab it and email it now then | 22:09 |
| lbt | fyi I brought up the wiki with that old backup and a handcrafted one | 22:09 |
| lbt | then got ldap working on it | 22:10 |
| lbt | so now you need to get an account via bugzilla before you can edit - should reduce spam a lot :) | 22:10 |
| lbt | side effect is that people may have had accounts with different usernames | 22:11 |
| alterego | I have a mer bz account, have done since the beginning :P | 22:11 |
| lbt | oh yeah - I was meaning all users and especially wrt history | 22:12 |
| alterego | Yeah, | 22:13 |
| alterego | Can we have both LDAP and normal? | 22:13 |
| lbt | would probably defeat the point | 22:13 |
| alterego | Actually, yeah | 22:13 |
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| alterego | How about SSO? :) | 22:14 |
| lbt | well, we have sso ... provided the first s is synchronised :) | 22:14 |
| alterego | Right, sent :) | 22:15 |
| alterego | Heh | 22:15 |
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| lbt | 'night all | 22:48 |
| CosmoHill | night lbt | 22:50 |
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