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| iekku | morning | 04:25 |
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| * lbt decided to wake up early :) | 06:08 | |
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| lbt | one day I'll get it right ... :D | 06:08 |
| lbt | but that does mean extra coffee is needed | 06:09 |
| * dm8tbr got a fun morning already... | 06:09 | |
| dm8tbr | right before my first coffee my /27 disappeared | 06:10 |
| dm8tbr | came back an hour later, must have been a network maintenance at the uni or sthg | 06:10 |
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| Stskeeps | some rat ate a cable? | 06:10 |
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| dm8tbr | or they decided to install all the cisco security upgrades across the network. | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | anybody who's in Helsinki and bored and up for a lunch with me around 12? | 06:13 |
| * dm8tbr will be bored at a meeting in T:re ;) | 06:13 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: changelog published .... it didn't work locally because my git repo wasn't up-to-date; I think my network had gone down during a scheduled git pull | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so connman and bluez are the most dangerous creatures | 06:15 |
| lbt | The log format is hard to scan-read | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to adjust it .. reasoning is that you can watch for odd behaviour | 06:17 |
| lbt | yep | 06:17 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: am I right in thinking pkgconfig should be in the sb2 target - or is it enough that the .pc files are? | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | it should kinda be | 06:25 |
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| lbt | which? | 06:26 |
| lbt | I've never looked at the source so not sure if it's more like gcc or like make | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | define 'sb2 target'? | 06:27 |
| lbt | "sb2 zypper in pkgconfig" | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | right | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | it should typically be there for build purposes | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | like everything else in prjconf | 06:28 |
| lbt | but make isn't in there | 06:28 |
| lbt | make is in the SDK | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | right | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | that's where sb2 magic comes in :P | 06:29 |
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| lbt | yeah - hence the make/gcc comparison | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | practically it should be there.. i guess | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | ok, need more coffee | 06:29 |
| lbt | yeah ... I think it doesn't need to be there but sb2 needs to handle the .pc files | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | normally you run pkg-config --cflags for instance | 06:30 |
| lbt | yep - but sb2 will redirect access to pc files | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | well, it'll use the target ones | 06:31 |
| lbt | right | 06:31 |
| lbt | so if pkgconfig is in SDK (not target) then it's accelerated | 06:31 |
| lbt | which is good | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | right | 06:31 |
| lbt | unless it does spooky crap .... :D | 06:31 |
| lbt | so I was mainly wondering if it was totally controlled by .pc files - which would be awfully sensible | 06:32 |
| * lbt goes to look at the src | 06:32 | |
| Stskeeps | anyway, outcome of sb2 talk yesterday: interested in working with establishing sb2 as a proper outside-nokia product, also making wrappers for sdk-like behaviour | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | proper outside-nokia product as in wiki, mailing list, etc | 06:33 |
| lbt | neat | 06:33 |
| lbt | More than happy to help them get setup on mer infra as an "incubated" project | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i offered that too | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | we need to help validate the latest stable versions | 06:34 |
| lbt | yep - we're a power user and provide QA feedback so quite a good partnership | 06:35 |
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| lbt | alterego: ping - can you enable svg upload on the wiki please | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | i vote we do migration asap if possible.. | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | and ldap setup | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | i'm getting tired of cleaning up spam | 06:42 |
| lbt | yeah - I was going to ask for a new DB dump but actually there's no need - I can use the existing one | 06:44 |
| lbt | to verify the import I mean | 06:44 |
| lbt | then I can do LDAP and setup properly (also need gerrit LDAP) | 06:45 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 07:36 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: good morning! | 07:36 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: have lbt and you arrived at home? | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still in finland, going home for 8 hours or so and then to berlin for qt contributor summit | 07:41 |
| lbt | sonach: morning - I'm home | 07:41 |
| sonach | lbt: cool,I think i need your help about the MerOBS's publish problem :) | 07:41 |
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| lbt | sonach: OK, what's the problem (and I must admit - I need to check that the script actually does publish properly on my test systems) | 07:42 |
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| sonach | lbt: hmm, maybe tomorrow morning will be better time to diagnosis this since I can not access the OBS server ATM. long story short, in the /srv/obs/log/publisher.log, it seems fine, but under http://OBSFE_INT:82, there is nothing, | 07:45 |
| lbt | OK | 07:45 |
| lbt | I'll check here and see if I can reproduce | 07:45 |
| lbt | yep - same here | 07:47 |
| sonach | lbt: OK. I just run your setup-obs.sh and 'zypper install createpos'. besides that, I shut down all VMs' firewalls:) | 07:47 |
| lbt | so it looks like the script missed something and I hadn't noticed yet | 07:48 |
| sonach | lbt: hmm, that's good, you can analyse this easily :) | 07:48 |
| lbt | yep | 07:48 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: Qt is still alive? It looks like no activities for that recently :P | 07:57 |
| lbt | Qt ... ! | 07:57 |
| lbt | we just updated to Qt5 - it's one of the more active parts at the moment | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: yes, it is | 07:59 |
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| Stskeeps | dcthang: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#q,status:merged,n,z | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | that hardly looks dead to me :) | 08:00 |
| dcthang | lbt: Can I select Qt 4.8 in the newest release? | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | mer has qt 4.8.1 | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | and qt5 alpha1 will be in next, though 4.8.1 is default | 08:00 |
| lbt | and they can co-exist (bug if they don't) | 08:00 |
| dcthang | ah ok. that would be nice | 08:03 |
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| Stskeeps | swerden: what's exactly the problem with multitouch on wetab? in mer, we had a problem for a while but when we did the right xorg.conf, it worked perfectly (combined with xinput2 enabled qt) | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | on exopc at least, which should be == wetab | 08:27 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: Is Mer ported to Acer Iconnia? | 08:32 |
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| Stskeeps | which specific model? | 08:32 |
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| Stskeeps | E-P: welcome back from vacation :) | 08:41 |
| dcthang | Acer Iconia Tab A500 | 08:41 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: thanks, you are still in Finland? | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: yeah, for a couple of hours | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: ask on internal nomovok mailing lists, fairly sure you guys have one.. | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | from what i recall | 08:42 |
| dcthang | ah ok | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: was actually in Jyväskylä in the weekend :) | 08:43 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: damn, would had been nice to meet :) | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: i should probably be in finland in a while again | 08:44 |
| E-P | hopefully you had a pleasent visit in here | 08:44 |
| * Stskeeps looks over at lbt who made him walk several kilometers in bad shoes and rain | 08:44 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:44 |
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| Stskeeps | otherwise ok | 08:45 |
| E-P | heh | 08:45 |
| lbt | *g* | 08:45 |
| lbt | don't forget the observation tower.... | 08:45 |
| E-P | in Harju, next to the city center? | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, probably | 08:47 |
| E-P | unfortunately Jyväskylä doesn't have much to see | 08:49 |
| E-P | the walking street with lot's of bars | 08:49 |
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| iekku | E-P, but the nature near jkl is nice | 09:02 |
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| sledges | good morning | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | morn sledges | 09:14 |
| sledges | how are you, Stskeeps ? | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | i'm okay, prepping for my trip back home, then flying again in the morning | 09:16 |
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| sledges | shoot, globetrotting! | 09:17 |
| sledges | :) | 09:17 |
| sledges | if one wanted to work/expand/popularise/promote Mer/Lipstick[/Nemo], which companies/industry sectors could be the best target? | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | any that somehow does interactive displays | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | not deepily embedded | 09:22 |
| sledges | any instances? Nomovok, Pelagicore, ... | 09:23 |
| sledges | do you reckon an STB industry could be targetted? | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | we have people doing stbs | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | but its smart stbs | 09:24 |
| sledges | "we" "have" ? :) | 09:25 |
| lbt | there's a vendor doing this | 09:25 |
| sledges | oh ok | 09:25 |
| lbt | sonach works for them | 09:25 |
| * lbt adds "case studies" to his TODO list | 09:25 | |
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| rcg | hah.. todo lists... aren't these those things that tend to continuously grow until they become that large and confusing that you start a new one, but this time with the very intent to do everything you write there and keep it better organized? | 09:27 |
| lbt | rcg: waaat | 09:27 |
| lbt | are you spying on me.... I'm doing that right now! | 09:27 |
| rcg | lbt: hehe, you never know ;P | 09:28 |
| * lbt checks Mer's secret-squirrel surveilance mode | 09:29 | |
| vilpan | rcg: it's funny and sad at the same time... I'm currently have 195 items, thinking rollover limit should be somewhere at 500. Maybe just plug your todo list into logrotate with size limit? | 09:38 |
| rcg | lbt: :) | 09:39 |
| rcg | vilpan: yeah, indeed... well i'd prefer a ringbuffer that just overwrites the oldest entries | 09:40 |
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| Stskeeps | use GTD | 09:42 |
| vilpan | I saw Lars Wirzenius has something called GTD for hackers. Looking at it is still in my personal TODO list, though | 09:43 |
| lbt | emacs ... org-mode | 09:49 |
| lbt | epic | 09:49 |
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| stefan_schmidt_w | Why do people always mention tools if concepts are up? :) GTD works fine with pen and paper | 09:51 |
| lbt | stefan_schmidt_w: because some tools are really good at enabling some concepts | 09:52 |
| lbt | eg version control => "git is good, RCS is not" | 09:52 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | lbt: imho they quite often force people to change the original concepts :) | 09:52 |
| lbt | possibly - GTD concepts on a computer would cope better with erase and sort than the same concept on (a single sheet of) paper | 09:53 |
| vilpan | stefan_schmidt_w: well, a tool should help you stick to the concept, provided the concept is implemented properly | 09:53 |
| lbt | so the tool and implementation influences the design | 09:54 |
| lbt | vilpan: equally, the tools may show you other things that are possible which may not have been apparent at conceptualisation phase | 09:54 |
| lbt | ie technology-led | 09:54 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | vilpan: there we are: Implemented properly :) | 09:55 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | I'm only half serious here folks :) | 09:55 |
| lbt | interesting water-cooler topic though | 09:55 |
| lbt | anyhow... a few mins more work before I afk for a while | 09:55 |
| lbt | o/ | 09:56 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | lbt: I'm using GTDFH here for quite some time and paper and some tomboy notes works best for me. It might be really different for others. And thats the point. Start with the concept and then look at the tools | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | gtd isn't water cooler, it should be obligatory course for knowledge workers :P | 09:56 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | Instead of starting with a tool directly | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | makes work saner | 09:56 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: *g* ... so emace *is* going in core!!! | 09:56 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | I'm in a meeting in some minutes as well :) | 09:56 |
| lbt | stefan_schmidt_w: I'm looking at org-mode to do some distributed gtd-style things too | 09:57 |
| lbt | but .... now to actually gtd | 09:57 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | :) | 09:58 |
| alterego | SVG upload? | 10:13 |
| alterego | How is that different from any other upload? | 10:13 |
| alterego | Oh I see. | 10:13 |
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| alterego | lbt: give it a go now :) | 10:15 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, helsinki airport at 1pm is magical, so silent, no queues | 10:35 |
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| sledges | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JJnf_nmLI :) nothing better for me in Finland than Linux and a cappella! | 10:44 |
| kimju | Stskeeps, at 1am it is about the same, expect that it is dark.. | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: was your hardware NEON capable, btw? | 10:47 |
| sledges | imx53 CPU spec says amongst others: NEON SIMD media accelerator (it's a 1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 CPU) | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | i'm doing an experimental hardfp, neon, thumb2 port, so | 10:49 |
| sledges | ;) bring it on | 10:50 |
| sledges | thought it will need hardfp kernel 8) | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 10:51 |
| sledges | (khm), ok! | 10:53 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | Stskeeps: playin as in doing some real benchmarks against a softfloat system? | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | stefan_schmidt_w: those already exist.. i'm more interested in memory usage with thumb2 | 10:53 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | Stskeeps: All the ones I have seen are for specific cases but not normal load. :) | 10:54 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | Stskeeps: hmm, you don't need hardfp for thumb2, do you? | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | stefan_schmidt_w: in practice, the hardfloat port i did gained significant fps on mobile OS'es.. you could -feel- the change | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | stefan_schmidt_w: nop, but ARM distro consensus is hardfp these days | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | for armv7+ | 10:54 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | I know | 10:55 |
| stefan_schmidt_w | Stskeeps: interesting that the speedup was that much | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | i believe we'll see interesting things on x32 abi as well, for atom processors | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | because it actually utilizes the floating point registers for function calls too | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | anyway.. in terms of IVI i saw the worst thing yesterday in a taxi | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | using a mouse to control a display | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:01 |
| sledges | :D | 11:01 |
| sledges | probably it was a real mouse... | 11:01 |
| alterego | Heh | 11:03 |
| alterego | I've set up dual heading with a new monitor yesterday. And now I'm starting to realise why Mice are useful. Having a trackpad to navigate between two displays is somewhat time consuming .. | 11:03 |
| alterego | Also, unity doesn't have any idea of main display context, maybe my active work should be on primary display and my assets and references for that job should be on the secondary display .. | 11:04 |
| alterego | Aaaaanyway ... | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | GTD, hardfloat and multimonitor interaction, we're sure getting around today | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:04 |
| * Stskeeps is looking forward to a week of just hacking next week, no travels | 11:05 | |
| alterego | You and me both. | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | and of course, driving course | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:06 |
| alterego | Though I've actually been having a good week, made a lot of progress on my current jobs, and customers seem impressed. | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | all things considered i think i had a good week, and it was a good week for mer too | 11:10 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: how's your course? any areas I should avoid? :> | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: nowe bemowo, ratusz arsenal area | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | i haven't run over anybody yet | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:24 |
| smoku | right in the center? good for you :) it's good to learn in deep water | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | he started me out by a couple of manuvering excersises on a parking lot and then threw me, at late evening/darkness into warsaw traffic | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | so i had to learn quite quickly | 11:25 |
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| smoku | :D | 11:25 |
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| smoku | doh... webkitgtk3 is taking ages to build... | 11:27 |
| smoku | x6 | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | add my patches for -Wl,--no-keep-memory | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | webkit is a freaking monster | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:27 |
| smoku | which patches? | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | look in my qtwebkit ones | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | and apply similar method to yours | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | is it mer or something else? | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | if not mer, add -gdwarf-4 | 11:29 |
| smoku | it's mer | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:31 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=geoclue&project=Project%3ACordia%3AGNOME&repository=Mer_Core_Next_armv7l - it builds fine on Mer but fails on Mer_Next - anything obvious to you? | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | looking | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | can you get me config.log ? | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | also, check [mer-general] Mer PRE-RELEASE 0.20120614.0.1 and see if any of the dependencies were touched | 11:31 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: any of these patches https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=qtwebkit&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Aqtmobilitywebkit ? | 11:33 |
| smoku | 01_lflags_as-needed.patch ? | 11:34 |
| smoku | config.log ? | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | basically the -Wl,--no-keep-memory is important | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | it forces it to do io instead of heavy swap | 11:35 |
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| alterego | How are Samsung devices wrt getting mer/nemo on them? | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | aftermarket hw adaptation is always a bitch.. | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:59 |
| alterego | Looking forward to my next device, contemplating galaxy note 2 | 11:59 |
| alterego | Either that or I'll wait and see what blackberry do, but that'll probably be impossible to hack. | 11:59 |
| alterego | Maybe I'll just get an iPhone 5, lol ... | 11:59 |
| sledges | x) | 12:05 |
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| smoku | alterego: IMO HTC One X is pretty good option if you are looking for modern, hackable device. but insanely expensive so far... | 12:14 |
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| alterego | smoku: m'kay, thanks for info. | 12:20 |
| sledges | alterego, www.gta04.org ; I got a spare GTA02 enclosure you'll need | 12:26 |
| sledges | if it's to hack, it's to hack hard :)) | 12:26 |
| sledges | wooden phone? yes! https://picasaweb.google.com/114961040002008630266/GTA04WoodenCase | 12:29 |
| sledges | :) | 12:29 |
| _ol | Can somebody connect a larger screen to GTA04? It has acceptable hardware, but its screen size id unacceptable. | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | probably, if it's beagleboard-ish | 12:32 |
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| _ol | Does it have some kind of non-standard connection to the display? | 12:34 |
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| sledges | one moment | 12:35 |
| alterego | I've got a reprap, I can print my own cases :) | 12:37 |
| * alterego really needs to track down a pi ;) | 12:37 | |
| sledges | _ol: "Well, it is possible to mount the GTA04-Custom board (one without connector and backlight driver for the 2.8 inch display) on a bigger motherboard and connect a different display. E.g. from Sharp. This motherboard usually carries a level shifter, backlight converter and touch screen controller since every display is different." | 12:37 |
| sledges | ol: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04%20Custom http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/ | 12:39 |
| sledges | alterego, you'll still need an LCD AFAIR | 12:39 |
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| sledges | wow, reprap's awesome!! 8D | 12:46 |
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| * sledges 'd like a printed case of N9 clone, put GTA04 +Mer inside and be merry :D | 12:48 | |
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| _ol | alterego: I've got RepRapPro Huxley. Which RepRap do you have? | 13:21 |
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| _ol | sledges: I'm afraid, you won't be able to print N9 case. Printed parts look different than parts made by plastic moulding. You can see layers. | 13:25 |
| sledges | _ol, i wouldn't bet on a 1:1 printout, but a somewhat look-alike would do (bear in mind all fat GTA04/2 components inside would definitely not make such custom-N9 as slim already) | 13:27 |
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| _ol | sledges: Then I'd better have something with real keyboard. And I'd like it to be larger, like Samsung Galaxy Note. And fill all remaining space in the large case with batteries. :-) | 14:00 |
| sledges | you are the architect! ;) whatever might suit whoever's needs looks like we got the means to do it :) | 14:06 |
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| sledges | I think goldelico are in the direction to be able providing a service "build your own phone" :) they are missing for "enclosure engineers" i.e. appearance designers, currently leaving it to the community of wood-peckers and 3D printers :) | 14:08 |
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| _ol | sledges: Yes, it would be great to print a phone on 3D printer. Much more challenging would be to print a phone with keyboard. | 14:11 |
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| sledges | _ol they are up for it already: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04%3AKeyboard :) | 14:22 |
| sledges | as a proof-of-concept of course | 14:22 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: o/ | 14:23 |
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| sledges | another guy's printing as we speak: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Shulyaka | 14:42 |
| _ol | In think that GTA04 with current design makes no sense. It has hardware not better than N900 and much smaller screen. Why would I consider buying it if I can buy N900 on eBay for 200 euro? | 14:46 |
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| sledges | They got up GTA04 to 1GHz (not 800MHz anymore), depending on what phonecalls-making robot you want to make GTA04 has got more gadgets onboard, its further HW revs pending, and N900s will all get old/scratched soon :) | 14:57 |
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| sledges | N900 CPU is 600MHz, and SoC is older | 14:59 |
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| _ol | But it has 32G onboard flash. | 15:00 |
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| _ol | Bot 64 times more than GTA04 has. | 15:00 |
| wmarone | GTA04 was only being sold as a bare board, last I checked, and had no hardware keyboard ;) | 15:00 |
| sledges | wmarone, we covered the keyboard bit above :) | 15:01 |
| wmarone | said board also cost 100$ more than my N900 did 3 years ago >.> | 15:01 |
| _ol | And its screen is laughable. It would be acceptable like 10 years ago, but not now. | 15:01 |
| sledges | I never said a new case design would have same horrid bevels, that's why GTA04 comes without a native case :) | 15:02 |
| wmarone | I like the concept of the project, really, but it really needs more money to make a usable product | 15:02 |
| _ol | And keeping it compatible with Freerunner case is a big mistake. Who needs that old case anyway? | 15:03 |
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| sledges | wmarone, goldelico are not a company of a scale that of Nokia (well the latter might soon become as tiny as them :D) to bring low-volume costs down | 15:03 |
| sledges | _ol, case, LCD, antennas, speakers etc are all re-usable, hence again to keep costs down | 15:04 |
| _ol | But the cost is not acceptable either. | 15:04 |
| sledges | it is a hackery ambition, not a "product of a future" | 15:04 |
| sledges | and around the world there is a low-volume of people readying to pay for it [or donating, if out of time] to develop this HW further, we'll see what it brings | 15:05 |
| _ol | So how are they going to cover costs? Volume shipments to Museum of Computer History? | 15:06 |
| sledges | :) yes, a cornucopia of gta04s being shipped to a museum :)) | 15:07 |
| _ol | There are things to improve right now. 1. Scratch the old case. Plastic is cheap anyway. 2. Use larger screen. 4" at least. Preferrably retina display. Or even better, offer a choice of different screens (and case sizes). Some people like it to be as small as N900, some like it to be as large as Samsung Galaxy Note. | 15:09 |
| _ol | Optional keyboard will be a big plus, but not the size of the Freerunner case. | 15:10 |
| sledges | you could write this to their ml, good opinions always welcome. Especially if you or someone on this channel would like to put Nemo on it in the future (pick me! :)) | 15:10 |
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| _ol | Does Nemo fit in 512M of flash? | 15:11 |
| * sledges runs du -sh .../mer/nemo/nemo.rootfs/ | 15:11 | |
| sledges | ps, using a Cat 10 SD card wouldn't hurt either | 15:12 |
| sledges | for now anyhow a group of enthusiasts around the world are about to receive their first batch of gta04 and start hacking | 15:13 |
| sledges | I wish I was richer to get one :)) | 15:13 |
| sledges | maybe will wait until next gen, with hopefully points addressed in your saying, _ol | 15:13 |
| sledges | 485Mnemo-mobile-imx | 15:15 |
| sledges | just about :)) | 15:15 |
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| * Stskeeps lands in warsaw | 16:15 | |
| Stskeeps | hello schmooster :) | 16:16 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, what always-on irc client are you using? :) ssh screen bitchx ? :)) | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | sledges, irssi, ssh, mosh | 16:16 |
| sledges | roger :) | 16:17 |
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| iekku | Stskeeps, good! | 16:38 |
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| CosmoHill | hi al | 17:28 |
| CosmoHill | Alison_Chaiken:* | 17:28 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Hey CosmoHill. | 17:29 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: should "osc copypac Mer:fake:Core ..." work on COBS? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: not sure about Core but Core:i586 should | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | if Core doesn't work, i think it's a bug | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | file it please | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | (sorry for asking you to file all these, it's basically to let our problems hang out in the open so we actually fix them out of embarassement :P) | 19:00 |
| smoku | both Mer:fake:Core and Mer:fake:Core:i586 fail with 500: Internal Server Error | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | err... | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | and Mer.MDS: ? | 19:00 |
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| smoku | Mer:MDS - 404 | 19:01 |
| smoku | Mer:fake:MDS - 500 | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | dot, not : | 19:01 |
| smoku | osc copypac Mer.MDS ... - 404: Not Found | 19:02 |
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| smoku | looks like you removed gpsd package from Next, so I need to pull it in | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | we never had gpsd i woudl think? | 19:03 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 19:03 | |
| Stskeeps | don't think we ever did? | 19:04 |
| smoku | doh... | 19:04 |
| smoku | I'm puzzled now | 19:04 |
| smoku | take a look at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=geoclue&project=Project%3ACordia%3AGNOME | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | i don't see it in installed packages? | 19:05 |
| smoku | it had build fine for Next_i586, but still fails od gpsd dependency on arm | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | also you had --disable-gpsd | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | that looks bizarre | 19:05 |
| smoku | yeah | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | add a || cat config.log after your ./configure ? | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | ie | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | ./configure --blahblah || cat config.log | 19:06 |
| smoku | it was failing on Next_i586 too yesterday | 19:06 |
| smoku | and now that you noticed it has --disable-gpsd :/ | 19:06 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, do you know what company sonach works for? Couldn'ŧ get a hold of him today... | 20:15 |
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