Wednesday, 2012-06-13

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Stskeepstrip0: yes05:13
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Stskeepsgood morning sonach06:03
sonachgood morning Stskeeps!06:03
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sonach_Stskeeps: Is it necessary to install signer on my obs backend VM?06:14
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Stskeepssonach_: not really06:14
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Stskeepssometimes useful though, if you intend on secure distribution of your software in future06:15
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sonachStskeeps: When I do ' worker', it blocks at 'Waiting for bs_srcserver on'. I think it should not be blocked if things goes fine,06:28
Stskeepssonach: can you telnet to ?06:29
sonachStskeeps: no. firewall blocks it?06:30
Stskeepssonach: hmm06:30
Stskeepssonach: disable opensuse firewall06:30
sonachStskeeps: disabled it. But still cannot telnet,06:31
Stskeepswhere did you run be ?06:32
sonachStskeeps: I run be on 188.142 which is backend. and 143 is frontend, and 144 is worker.06:33
Stskeepsok, can you ping ?06:33
Stskeepsfrom worker06:33
sonachStskeeps: ah, it got success, the worker is setup:)06:34
sonachit is the reason that the firewall blocks it?06:35
sonachif so, I can add rules in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEFirewall2,06:35
Stskeepsnot sure06:35
sonachOK. and it is suitable to run MerDS on a Ubuntu VM? setting up MerDS is my next step,06:36
Stskeepsthat's ok, though i prefer to run it on opensuse as well06:36
sonachwhy do you prefer to run it on opensuse? since opensuse can not start fakeobs automatically...06:37
Stskeepswell, just for having similar systems on all three06:38
sonachStskeeps: OK. then I will install another suse JeOS:)06:39
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Stskeepstimoph: if i plan to run blts-x11-tests in my devaamo demo, will i be able to with current set of tools/versions?07:50
timophyou should be07:50
Stskeepsit's really hard to combine a time-limited hands-on with slides07:50
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timophI'd try the demo at least once before giving it :)07:51
timophyou're flying in tomorrow?07:51
Stskeepsand of course i test it :P07:51
timophI'll be at new factory most of the day if you have time to stop by07:51
timophneed to setup the hacking challenge07:52
timophalso we talked about going out for dinner after texrat arrives07:52
Stskeepsthat might make sense, when does he arrive?07:53
timophhe should be in tampere around 8pm07:53
iekkui will be at nf on fri07:53
iekku(in case someone wants to see me)07:53
timophiekku: we do :)07:55
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Stskeepstimoph: will there be a presenter ethernet or wifi?07:59
timophnot sure if there's a connection dedicated to presenters08:00
Stskeepsjust wondering how to connect up my r-pi.. i guess a crossover cable would be good to find08:00
timophI need to ask08:00
timophI should have one08:00
timoph(or more :))08:00
Stskeepswhere do we have the testrunner and other tools repo right now?08:01
Stskeepswhere i can find eat and testrunner08:01
timophhmmh. not sure08:01
timophE-P: ^08:01
Stskeepshe's on vacation AFAIK08:02
lbtmorning all08:02
Stskeepsmorn lbt08:02
Stskeepslbt: OK for prerelease and yes i remembered the hostarch stuff08:02
timophtools:testing might be a good guess08:03
lbtStskeeps: OK - I need to take broken car to garage so I won't rush it before I go08:03
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Stskeepsgood morning slaine08:27
slainegood morning Stskeeps, hows things08:28
Stskeepsthey're okay.. preparing for a combined slideshow and hands-on demo08:28
Stskeepsnot one i can easily bullshit my way through :P08:28
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Stskeepslbt: we need to ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab in sdk08:34
Stskeepsalso, wonder why the heck mer doesn't do that in first place..08:34
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Stskeepsmorn phaeron08:56
phaeronStskeeps: tested the scenario where the copied to project should rebuild a package. and it did rebuild.09:01
phaeronStskeeps: trying to test some linkprj stuff. I created a prjlink in OBS to Core:i586 inside MerMDS, I am getting some unresolvable errors09:02
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Stskeeps <link> <repository rebuild="all"> ?09:02
phaeronno localdep09:02
phaeronI can't rebuild all on this tiny machine09:03
phaeronnothing provides needed by wpa_supplicant09:04
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* Stskeeps ponders how we test it 09:07
Stskeepsso what we need to prove is that we can have project A, which has a <link> repository rebuild=all to project B which contains sources. we then want to copyproject to project C, and change the <link> to project D, which contains similar sources but one modified packages09:09
phaeronand I am now running with a while "no new events": time.sleep(60) instead of the return 50309:09
Stskeepsif it'll rebuild only that package09:09
phaeronStskeeps: I guess I can't test that scenario on this small machine09:10
Stskeepsperhaps we can09:10
StskeepsMDS, copy obs-projects/Core to Core-minimal, and have two packages in packages.xml only, acl and bash09:10
Stskeepsand move between package references/sha1's in Core-minimal-209:11
phaeronalso have you ever seen a "download in progress" status09:11
Stskeepsno, that's new09:11
phaeronI don't get the second part.09:13
Stskeepsok, so, we introduce two new projects in MDS09:13
StskeepsCore-minimal and Core-minimal-changed09:13
Stskeepsthose two only contain acl and bash source packages09:14
Stskeepsand one difference, the git sha that Core-minimal-changed's 'acl' package points to, is different, so it would rebuild when <link> switches to Core-minimal-changed09:14
Stskeeps.. makes more sense?09:15
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phaeronok, where does copyprj get used09:17
Stskeepsok, we have project A which <link project>'s to Core-minimal. We copyprj A to project B, and change B's <link project> to Core-minimal-changed09:20
Stskeepsexpecting only acl to rebuild09:20
phaeroncurrently when the project gets copied the link project and buildmech don't get preserved09:23
phaeronthat's api code , but can be fixed09:24
phaeronlinked build build mechanism (all in your case)09:24
Stskeepsthe aim is simply to start from an origin point for sources (and already built binaries), add a change and have a changed build done09:25
Stskeepsso for example we can continue from a let's say, mer stable branch and add fixes on top of it09:26
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phaeronfor the purpose of this test, can MerDS say that Core-minimal builds against Core09:28
phaeronotherwise nothing will provide the needed packages09:28
Stskeepswell, you can build against Core in project A just fine09:29
StskeepsCore-minimal just delivers source packages :)09:29
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phaeronStskeeps: you lost me there09:31
* phaeron needs coffee09:32
Stskeepsyeah, sounds like an idea..09:32
Stskeepsmoment, will ascii art09:32
iekkummmmm coffee09:32
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phaeronchewing ..09:39
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phaeronStskeeps: bash doesn't depend on acl , right ?09:46
Stskeepsit might.. we can select two other perhaps09:46
* Stskeeps looks for good candidates09:46
Stskeepslet's say mer-gfx-tests and openssh09:47
phaerontoo heavy :D09:50
Stskeepsnah, its fine :P09:50
Stskeepsjust starting a build is fine09:50
StskeepsREMINDER: Mer advisory board meeting in 55 minutes in #mer-meeting10:04
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Stskeepsphaeron: can you add Mer_Core_armv6l to Mer:Tools:Testing for me please?10:11
sledgesStskeeps, which [hopefully bare] .ks should I reference for your llvmpipe test ?10:14
Stskeepssledges: i concluded already it was broken sadly :/10:14
Stskeepstrying llvm svn now10:14
sledgesgood I asked first :D10:14
phaeronStskeeps: ok one  sec10:16
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phaeronStskeeps: what arch is that ? armv7l ?10:17
phaeronthere is no armv6l scheduler in cobs10:18
Stskeepsphaeron: Core:armv6l, arch armv7el10:25
phaeronjust making sure is actually armv7el10:25
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lbtStskeeps: /etc/mtab symlink is done in .ks for sdk ... may be worth verifying it in the sdk-chroot script's done by systemd in Mer Core - which we don't run in SDK :)10:33
Stskeepslbt: ah10:34
Stskeepslbt: odd, why doesnt image have that then..10:34
Stskeepsi followed guide and all10:34
lbtyou see it in the .ks ?10:36
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Stskeepsfor some reason it refuses to open it in my browser10:53
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lbtyeah - I use a plugin10:54
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phaeronjust set mimetype for *.ks to text in the server10:55
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lbt"I don't care what the server says it is, just open the damn document"10:55
lbtphaeron: yeah ... but this is cool for when you don't have root on the servers (and/or don't have time/inclination)10:55
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iekkushould the advisory board meeting start now?11:02
Stskeepssorry, got distracted :)11:03
iekkui started to wonder if i have (once again) mixed the UTC to my time zone somehow11:04
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Stskeepstimoph: can i get you to do a simple change to 'eat'?11:06
lbt+Hostarch: i58611:07
lbtHostarch: i58611:07
Stskeepslbt: hmm?11:08
lbtthought this needed to be 686 ...11:08
StskeepsOBS scheduler11:09
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lbtfyi I'm (obviously?) doing the snapshot now11:09
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lbtok, coffee whilst the release churns11:42
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Stskeepsphaeron: lbt: please accept SR#508911:45
phaeronStskeeps: aren't ssh keys supposed to be 660 or 600 or something ?11:50
Stskeepsphaeron: these are special keys, public knowledge keys11:51
Stskeepsjust for automated testing11:51
Stskeepsand the 660 is set up when installing host key11:51
phaeronStskeeps: but ssh  refuses to use it if it otherwise chmoded afair11:52
Stskeepsit is fixed when you do eat-install-host-key11:52
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Stskeepslbt: when are you arriving in tampere friday?12:45
lbtabout 1pm12:49
lbtso should be in town by 2pm depending on bus etc12:49
Stskeepsgive me a call and we'll figure out how to get you into the room/keycard12:49
Stskeepsi've gotten so senile that i managed to forget i'll actually start at sokos and flying finnair instead12:50
Stskeepsbut hey, breakfast included..12:50
lbtcan't be bad :)12:50
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lbtmmm release logs have "cpio: premature end of archive"12:52
Stskeepsdoesn't sound good12:53
lbtI think that's an indicator of bad xfer from OBS12:53
lbttry again12:55
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Stskeepsmorn Termana12:58
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timophStskeeps: ping me a bit later in the evening about it13:32
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Stskeepslbt, how's prerelease coming?14:20
Stskeepsstefan_schmidt_w: good to see you here too :) just wanted to welcome you here, if you have any questions at any time, don't hestitate to ask, else feel free to hang out14:22
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: hi :)14:23
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: just wanted to hang out here a bit and see whats going on14:23
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: Still settling after my relocation and almost all of my gadgets are not here yet14:23
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: But playing on one of them with mer is on my someday list :)14:24
Stskeepssure :)14:24
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Stskeepsi've considered to donate some of my gadget collection to the local hackerspace, just to see what the others could come up with14:25
Stskeepsmany have been standing a bit too idle on my shelf for a bit too long while now14:25
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: what does local mean in this context? US?14:26
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: I still need to make a visit to the London Hackerspace at some point. Its on the same list :)14:26
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Stskeepsi live in Warsaw, Poland - though i'm not from Poland, moved here 2.5 years ago from denmark14:27
stefan_schmidt_wI wonder why I always though you are from US. nvm14:28
Stskeepsdunno, i've been confused for being german as well :)14:28
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: well with my name its pretty obvious that I'm german :)14:29
Stskeepshehe ;)14:30
Stskeepsmy name being carsten munk, which confuses some :)14:30
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Stskeepscurrently preparing a talk for devaamo summit this weekend - i'm showing how to do a testable product prototype in 30 minutes with mer, raspberry pi, etc14:31
Stskeepsit's a bit like a magic trick to prep a hands-on combined with slides14:32
stefan_schmidt_wStskeeps: yeah14:32
Stskeepslet's see if murphy's law kicks in or not..14:34
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lbtStskeeps: cpio: premature end of archive .... again15:19
lbt3 last time ... just one this time15:19
lbttry again15:20
lbtodd because it usually works15:21
Stskeepsmaybe worth kicking fe/be15:23
Stskeepswhere does it go for premature?15:24
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lbtanyhow .. was looking at the code and thinking:   while ! curl -sS "$baseurl/_repository?$binaries" | (cd $targetdir; cpio -idvm); do echo retrying cpio; done15:28
lbtdepends on cpio returning false on premature and also on false propagating out of the shell pipeline15:29
lbtthe cpio premature was different in both cases - overwrote the log though so I'll make a note if it does it again15:29
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* KaziKluBey_N900 Hejja Danmark!!15:45
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phaeronStskeeps: do I need to mds updatestorm for it to notice the minimal-changed packages.xml  change ?15:47
StskeepsKaziKluBey_N900: hehe, true, match tonight15:48
Stskeepsphaeron: only if you used it once already15:48
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iekkuhmm, i need new mer t-shirt. the one i got is tent even i reshapad it after wash15:51
Stskeepsi've brought some along15:51
Stskeepsalong with fridge magnets15:51
phaeronI just pushed stuff to make it work with prjlinks15:52
phaeronneed help verifying15:52
phaeronlbt:  Stskeeps:
phaeronmy eyes are bleeding from doing perl and ruby at the same time15:54
lbtiekku: I think Mer contributors are clearly amongst the fittest of geeks ... I have surplus XXL(3), XL(5) and L(3)15:54
lbtphaeron: looking15:54
iekkulbt, i had XL and it's a tent15:55
iekkuand i'm not small..15:55
lbtiekku: no, you are nice and trim :D15:55
iekkumore like ball or ..15:55
iekkulbt, buah :D15:55
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lbtI'll make sure I have an L for you - they are better15:56
phaeronStskeeps: apparently there is something  that sounds like repolinks 0.015:56
iekkulbt, i need to try it, might be too big15:56
lbtiekku: np15:56
iekku(after i met my wife my t-shirt size has get smaller, i don't want to hear constant nagging about tents)15:58
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iekkuwife wasn't home last week so i wear mer shirt, but noticed i have used to smaller once :( )15:59
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lbtphaeron: not sure why you patched bs_repserver to do string concatenation ?16:01
phaeronlbt: I got errors about $foo:: not defined16:02
lbtuse ${foo} ?16:02
phaeronit was adding the :: to the variable name16:02
phaeronlbt: does it make a difference if I use string concat or {}16:02
lbtthe perl guys prolly won't like a move to concat - it's not good style16:04
phaeronok can we check functionality and then talk about style :D16:04
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Stskeepsachaiken: new, shortened nick? :)17:07
achaikenStskeeps, at work site and can't login to home to sign out.17:08
Stskeepsahh :)17:08
Stskeepsmakes sense17:08
achaikenAnd huomenta to all!17:08
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w00tachaiken: take a look at /msg nickserv help ghost (if you want to be who you normally are..)17:11
iekkuachaiken, it's "iltaa" in finland ;) but good morning to you :)17:13
achaikeniekku, I was laughing last night when I saw the new real-time traffic system allegedly developed in UK is called "ARTTI"17:14
achaikenSmells suomalainen to me.     Ain't no Brits coming up with ARTTI as a name!17:14
iekkumartti is common name in finland17:15
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iekkubut yeah, it has something finn in it17:15
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phaeronStskeeps: I am not sure changing packages.xml alone is conveying anything17:26
Stskeepsphaeron: ok, edit packages.xml and then run 'make'17:26
Stskeepsand it'll update i586/ armv7l/ etc17:26
phaeronI was doing make update17:27
phaeronis there a difference ?17:27
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Stskeepsyes, quite17:27
phaeronok let me try17:27
Stskeepsmake update isn't related to what we want to do :)17:27
phaeronI have no idea :D17:28
phaeronfakeobs is still a bit of a blackbox to me17:28
phaeronalthough my change to it to use http 1.1 and sleep 60 eliminated the 503 problem17:28
Stskeepslong story short, fakeobs serves up projects that are listed in mappings.xml17:28
Stskeepsmappings.xml point to a dir17:29
Stskeepsfakeobs looks in that dir for a packages.xml17:29
lbtThis is what I do to handle a partial update for cobs MDS.... if that's in any way what you're doing17:29
phaeronwhat Stskeeps has me doing is only git revision  change in packages.xml17:30
lbtah, so essentially changing the obs 'rev'17:31
phaeronyeah but obs is not getting notified of anything and doesn't rebuild17:31
Stskeepsphaeron: you shouldn't need to notify.. i just want to do the revision change -and then- change <link>17:32
lbtnot sure where the event would arise17:32
phaeronlbt: updatestorm17:33
phaeronStskeeps: eitherway doesn't work17:33
Stskeepsphaeron: can you write up the setup you are doing at the moment?17:33
phaeronok let me repeat it and write as I do17:34
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lbtOK, I tweaked the script to handle errors - and there weren't any this time - prerelease looks good17:53
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lbtStskeeps: want to sanity check it17:55
lbtmmm libquadmath is only in 486, not arm/mips17:59
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phaeronStskeeps: I think fakeobs doesn't notice any change in the packages ..18:33
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phaeronStskeeps: triggered rebuild of the two packages and the result is found by compare to be identical , so fakeobs is probably serving old source ?18:35
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Stskeepsphaeron: hmm19:02
Stskeepsphaeron: well try to osc co it19:02
Stskeepsand see if you get the right thing19:03
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Stskeepshello Nia :)19:03
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Stskeepslbt: don't mind quadmath.. it's a bit weird19:18
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phaeronStskeeps: checkouts same19:41
phaeronit really is serving the same revision regardless of the  packages.xml ?19:42
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Stskeepsit shouldn't19:42
Stskeepsshow me packages.xml and path of them?19:42
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Stskeepsphaeron: okay, and mappings.xml ?19:45
phaeronStskeeps: refresh , added mappings.xml and diff of osc co for the two prjs19:47
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Stskeepsokay, so it does actually check out two different srcmd5/revs?19:49
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phaerononly the rev is different19:49
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CosmoHillmy friend just dropped my laptop and now it's got a massive dent in it19:52
Stskeepsphaeron: okay, that one i can explain..19:52
CosmoHillstill works cos I'm typing on it but I duno how I feel19:52
CosmoHillhad this laptop 7 years >.<19:52
phaeronStskeeps: good :D19:52
Stskeepsphaeron: check;a=shortlog ,;a=commitdiff;h=61e43345ebcf2407504ffa5d24dc573e52f2aa9b19:52
Stskeepsso the srcmd5 didn't actually change19:52
Stskeepsjust some meta surrounding it19:53
phaeronhmmm, was suspecting that :)19:53
Stskeepswhich naturally doesn't cause a rebuild, i'd think..19:53
phaeronok suggest two other pkgs19:53
phaeronI'll retest  and see19:53
Stskeepslibpng , two latest commits19:54
Stskeepsscons, same19:54
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Stskeeps;a=summary ,;a=summary19:55
Stskeepsclick 'commit' to get sha19:55
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phaerongit log works  too19:56
phaeronless clicks19:56
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phaeronless higher cortical control :D20:00
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phaeroncheckouts  have different srcmd5 now ..20:14
phaeronno rebuilds though :(20:15
phaeronbut even when I change the original project's link it doesn't build20:17
phaeronwhat should  mds  reply with in this case ?20:18
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Stskeepsi'd need to see what it asks in http log on MDS20:21
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Stskeepsi have a flight in the morning, you can debug with /public/source/twopackages-changed/acl20:23
Stskeepsshould give you a overview of files / md5's there20:23
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Stskeepswhen do you expect a rebuild to happen?20:23
phaeronwell if I change the link project , it should notice that a package's source is different and rebuild it20:24
phaeronthat was the scenario you explained20:24
phaeronStskeeps: osc co on mds does get different srcmd520:25
Stskeepsi wonder what causes this..20:25
phaeronbut on changing the link project in obs , it asks for something that doesn't say something has changed20:25
phaeroneven a deep check doesn't pick the source change20:26
Stskeepsit should really do a /public/source/twopackages-changed/acl call on MDS20:26
Stskeeps or even /twopackages-changed20:26
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Stskeepsit's <repository rebuild="all" , right?20:27
phaeronrebuild ? you mean  linkedbuild20:28
phaeronyes linkedbuild=all20:28
Stskeepssorry, brain shutting down :)20:28
phaeronno problem20:28
Stskeepswhen were you in tampere?20:29
phaeronI really like  the progress so far, this behavior is not related to prjcopy patch20:29
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phaeronafter tomorrow, don't have train tickets yet20:29
Stskeepsagreed, just trying to make a scenario work and uncovering more bugs20:29
Stskeepsi'm there from 4pm on20:29
phaeronshould I lug my vm host with me :D20:29
phaeronit's a laptop20:30
Stskeepssure, why not20:30
phaeronso I'll have two laptops :D20:30
phaeronwas thinking of  getting my bicycle two20:30
phaeronerr too20:30
Stskeepsi've put a usb keyboard in my suitcase and a raspberry pi20:31
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phaeronwas just worried about the dorm20:31
Stskeepspersonally when i stay in dorm like / hostels i don't leave anything of value there, or while i sleep :P20:32
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Stskeepsbut that's just paranoid me20:32
phaeronwhere do you keep them20:32
Stskeepssometimes there's secure-ish boxes you can use20:33
Stskeepsanyhow, sleep20:33
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