Tuesday, 2012-06-12

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sonachlbt: Is 'setup-obs.sh' not ready? I encounter: File '/releases/Mer-OBS/latest.repo' not found on medium 'http://repo.pub.meego.com/'03:18
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sonachhi,all, when doing 'osc chroot prj_MerDS_Core_armv7l armv7el' under Mer's SDK, it reports error: /bin/su: /bin/su: cannot execute binary file.   Any instructions?04:15
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Stskeepssonach: is this with a new mer core?04:27
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Stskeepsmorn dm8tbr \05:14
Stskeepsdm8tbr: up for dinner thursday afternoon-evening perhaps in tampere?05:15
dm8tbrStskeeps: sure thing05:16
dm8tbrunless I'm completely fork-bombed with summit preparation ;)05:16
Stskeepsi'll be in tampere after 4pm at least05:16
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iekkuStskeeps, i will be at tre friday, coming around 10 to finlayson area05:20
Stskeepsi still need to see if i need to have other meetings, but else i'd probably hang around there05:20
Stskeepsthere's a nice danish smoerrebroed shop :P05:20
iekkuStskeeps, and staying in tampere for mer bof05:20
iekkulunch there? :)05:20
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Stskeepspossibly, but can't commit yet05:22
Stskeepsas i may be in another part of time until the summit starts05:23
iekkuwell, let's see that on fri05:23
Stskeepsi'm not doctor who, i meant another part of town05:24
iekkufunny the another part of time didn't confuse me. "he can do what ever he decides to do"05:25
iekkuand after a while "whe he doesn't have clone? or does he?"05:26
iekkuwhe = why05:26
Stskeepsi wish.. :P05:26
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Stskeepsmorn w00t05:36
* Stskeeps offers w00t strong coffee05:36
sonachStskeeps: not new mer-core. yesterday night the server was restarted. OBS is running on this server, and we login to this server to do 'osc chroot',05:39
Stskeepssonach: ok,  ls -l /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/05:41
sonachStskeeps: and I run 'osc chroot' under OpenSUSE, the same error. So I think there must be some problem with my OBS server?05:41
sonachStskeeps: it outpus: total 005:42
Stskeepssonach: ls -l /usr/sbin/qemu*05:42
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sonach-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4775 Feb 23  2011 /usr/sbin/qemu-binfmt-conf.sh05:42
Stskeepsas root, run /usr/sbin/qemu-binfmt-conf.sh05:42
sonachStskeeps: have run it. (but it reports: Please check cpu value and header information for m68k!  Can I safely ignore this? )05:44
Stskeepsthat's ok05:44
Stskeepsnow try osc chroot05:45
sonachStskeeps: OK now, thank you very much:)05:45
Stskeepssonach: no problem05:46
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sonachStskeeps: so, what's the problem? I am not very clear about the function of qemu-binfmt-conf.sh,05:50
Stskeepssonach: ok, so, when the linux kernel executes a binary, it looks into the contents/settings of binfmt and matches the file headers05:52
Stskeepsand then it runs the binary related to this in the settings05:52
Stskeepsso when it sees a ARM binary, it will run the binary with qemu-arm, for example05:52
Stskeepsor if it sees a windows .exe, it runs it with 'wine'05:52
sonachStskeeps: how it this related to '/bin/su'?05:54
Stskeeps(it can be configured to such)05:54
Stskeepssonach: /bin/su in the chroot is a ARM binary :)05:54
sonachStskeeps: when did the qemu-binfmt-conf.sh file copied to the machine?05:57
Stskeepssonach: probably part of the qemu package05:57
sonachStskeeps: hmm, but if I run MerSDK under Ubuntu, I think I don't need to install qemu-package? in other words, why should I install qemu package on the OpenSUSE server?05:58
Stskeepssonach: when you do osc build it sometimes sets it up for you06:00
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sonachStskeeps: that is really strange then... Because 'osc build' is done under MerSDK, If it will setup this, it will setup this under MerSDK/usr/sbin, not /usr/sbin? ?06:01
Stskeepssonach: it sometimes is a little weird, agreed06:03
sonachStskeeps: ok,cool. I will check this in Ubuntu. thank you :)  And do you know why '/releases/Mer-OBS/latest.repo' is not exists under http://repo.pub.meego.com?06:04
sonachStskeeps: ATM It seems that lbt's setup-obs.sh doesn't work...06:05
Stskeepslbt'd would know06:06
sonachok, I will wait for lbt :)06:07
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sonachStskeeps: another problem... you know my OBS server was reset last night. Now when I modify the source files of one package, it is not rebuilt. the info was: state need recalculation. former state was: Repository has been published.06:16
Stskeepssonach: perhaps your publisher isn't running, or scheduler06:17
sonachStskeeps: rcobspublisher and rcobsscheduler are both 'running',06:17
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sonachStskeeps: or something for 'armv7el' is not running?06:18
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sonachStskeeps: You have help me to analyze similar problem before, but I don't remember the exact day of IRC log. Can you tell me some key word then I can search it,06:22
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Stskeepssonach: ps aux | grep bs_06:30
Stskeepssonach: is your fakeobs up?06:31
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sonachStskeeps: oops... fakeobs is not up!!06:47
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timakimai really really need another cup of coffee for reading that as "fakeboobs". twice.06:51
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Stskeepssonach: well there's your problem.. restart the scheduler06:53
sonachStskeeps: "-bash: systemctl: command not found"06:54
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sonachi think systemd should be installed as default?06:55
Stskeepssonach: no systemctl on your old obs probably06:55
sonachwhich package should I install then?06:55
Stskeepswhat are you trying to start, fakeobs?06:55
sonachyes, I have created mds.service, and want to run it. because there is no monitor connected to the server :(06:56
sonachI have to run it through ssh...06:57
Stskeepssonach: ok, i dont think you can use mds.service on opensuse 11.406:57
Stskeepsthere should be a init.d or something06:57
sonachStskeeps: ... so on Opensuse11.4, how to auto start fakeobs?06:57
Stskeepsthe page should say it06:58
sonachStskeeps: fakeobs should be run before the scheduler?07:01
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sonachStskeeps: In rc5.d, i find 'K01obsscheduler ' and 'S13obsscheduler'. So I should create I new file name for example 'K00fakeobs' to start fakeobs?07:05
StskeepsS is for starting, K is for shutting down07:06
Stskeepsso S10fakeobs07:06
sonachsorry for my silly question :(07:07
Stskeepsno, it's not a silly question at all :)07:07
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sonachStskeeps: another question. under /etc/sysconfig/network, there are ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-eth0:0 which sets different IP addresses to one Card. But after reset, only the IP in ifcfg-eth0 is set. do you know how to auto set the IP in ifcfg-eth0:0?07:23
Stskeepsi don't know off hand, i usually use yast07:23
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sonachlbt: ping08:18
sonachStskeeps: my S10xxx in /etc/init.d/rc5.S doesn't be executed after reset, Do I miss something?08:23
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Stskeepssonach: is it mode +x, and has a handler for 'start' command line parameter ?08:24
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sonachStskeeps: "mode +x", yes;  what is "has a handler for 'start' command line parameter" meaning?08:26
lbtsonach: no, it got late and setup-obs.sh is not quite finished08:27
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sonachlbt: OK, no hurry :) I can use my old OBS server ATM, though a little annoyance :(08:29
lbtthe main thing that is wrong is that the repo is pointing to the wrong place.08:29
sonachStskeeps: why should it have a 'start' handler for command? I think It should be executed like a linux shell,08:29
lbtsonach: https://github.com/lbt/obs-setup/blob/master/setup-obs.sh#L25208:30
sonachStskeeps: I find 'start' handler in other scripts like 'S13obsschedule', but I don't know why the 'start' handler should be needed...08:30
Stskeepssonach: because it'll usually have to respond to both start and stop08:31
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lbtso if you try: ZYPPER_REPOS="http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer:/OBS:/Testing/openSUSE_11.4/Mer:OBS:Testing.repo" ... see if that works08:31
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sonachlbt: I will try it now,08:31
lbtsonach: what I need to do now is improve the release steps to create a .repo file08:31
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lbtI knew I'd do it sometime so the script assumes http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-OBS/latest.repo  exists08:32
sonachlbt: cool, since the current repo is with 'Testing', hehe08:34
lbtyeah - I was hoping to get to a proper named release : see   http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-OBS/08:34
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lbtanyhow coffee first08:39
sonachStskeeps: something like http://pastie.org/4072380?08:40
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Stskeepssonach: yeah-ish08:42
sonachStskeeps: what package  in Mer provides /usr/bin/python?08:42
Stskeepshmm, moment08:43
Stskeepssonach: 'python' itself08:44
sonachStskeeps: the S10xxx doesn't take effect at all :(08:48
Stskeepssonach: ok, odd08:48
sonachStskeeps: if it is a trivial question, I will connect a monitor to the server and start fakeobs, hehe08:49
Stskeepssonach: init.d is always a mess :) did you verify it is executable?08:49
sonachStskeeps: yes,08:50
Stskeepsnot sure what goes wrong then08:50
sonachI can execute it at command line... OK, not to waste any more time then, thank you:)08:51
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Stskeepsmorn phaeron o/09:07
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Stskeepscxl000: found the error, glibc had armv7-a only code in it for memchr09:12
Stskeepsand memset09:12
cxl000Hello Stskeeps saw you had a fix.09:14
cxl000Are there packages built with that fix that I can download an test?09:14
Stskeepsyes, moment09:15
lbtphaeron: I'm going to try prjcopy some more .. ping when you've refuelled09:15
sledgesis somebody behind Microsoft/Nokia trying to silence us? My (selective!) video(s) do not work anymore: Lipstick QML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIHRLbAAFIE09:17
sledgesKDE PA GLES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbQU6n8Zkw09:17
sledgesothers work!09:17
phaeronlbt: (02:42:29 AM) phaeron: lbt: copyprj , 1 project -- 3 packages, 3 repos (2 x i586 , 1 x armv8el ) , works , no rebuild , state consistent09:17
Stskeepssledges: heh, evil09:17
sledgesStephen Evil Elop09:17
Stskeepssledges: what error?09:17
cxl000Stskeeps thanks I'll test them out after dinner09:18
sledges"This video is currently unavailable"09:18
lbtphaeron: OK, it could be that I use a local MDS09:18
Stskeepssledges: Works For Me09:18
Stskeepsphaeron: how about project link?09:18
sledgesprobably country specific (!!)09:18
Stskeepssledges: so you're back from vacation now?09:19
phaeronStskeeps: not yet tested09:19
sledgesStskeeps, yes, back fresh09:19
Stskeepssledges: good :)09:19
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sledgesreading http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/active/2012-May/003937.html :)09:21
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sonachlbt: 'setup-obs.sh fe' works fine:)09:22
Stskeepsit's in my inbox still for answering and dealing with09:22
lbtsonach: excellent :)09:22
Stskeepsthe follow up discussion on mer-general is good09:22
lbtsonach: the idea is that you now have a known-good baseline that you can examine and change to suit your setup09:22
lbtStskeeps: yeah - I've meant to get round to finishing a reply to that one too09:23
sonachlbt: OK. I will try to setup fe/worker/MDS tomorrow:)09:24
lbtI think "That's what the Mer Community OBS is for" is the short summary09:24
sledgesbefore I finished reading: mer can (and does) share low-level HA on OBS, what PA/Nemo/etc need to worry is the middleware adaptation (e.g. connman connection to upper UI etc.) just like JNI layer in Android (seems the have dealt pretty messy but well as well..)09:26
sledgeswhich is again hardware independent09:26
lbtMer has to scope according to resource09:26
sledges(i.e. -should- be hardware independent)09:26
lbtright now we have limited resources and given current lack of interest in funding us then even that may go down09:27
Stskeepssledges: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00532.html09:27
sledgesyes, lbt, you wrote in a nutshell of what I have thought of09:27
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smokuStskeeps: OMG. what a quoting mess... I have no idea who wrote what09:49
Stskeepssmoku: second layer is a Fwd:09:49
Stskeepsfrom active@ mailing list09:49
Stskeepsanybody with an armv7l device around without it's own GLES drivers who want to try out new llvm?09:51
Stskeepsllvmpipe, that is09:51
iekkui must be tired, managed to read "livepimp"09:52
sroedalI tried llvmpipe on armv7l at one point, didn't work09:52
sroedalStskeeps: have they improved their JIT ARM support recently?09:53
sroedalllvm that is09:53
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sledgesStskeeps, I can try on my arm7l imx53, having its own GLES drivers removed :}09:54
Stskeepssroedal: yes, as far as i can see09:55
Stskeepssroedal: so i'm willing to check status again..09:55
Stskeepssledges: OK, sec09:55
Stskeepssledges: http://repo.ci.merproject.org/repos/home:/stskeeps:/new-llvm/Core_armv7l/ - add that as a repo in .ks in bottom and it should pick it up09:56
sledgesok, will do this withing a day if that's ok09:57
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* sledges got another OpenMoko Neo Freerunner, so I can give mine up for GTA04 fans, and still experiment on (I know, it -is- an old ARMv4T grave :))10:04
smokuStskeeps: I have to agree with lbt.  You can be very verbose and rehash your assumptions many ways, but if one just doesn't want to listen, it's just pointless.10:04
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StskeepsREMINDER: Mer release management in 15 minutes in #mer-meeting10:45
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Stskeepsiekku: ping11:01
lbtphaeron: put the salty peanuts down ....11:02
iekkuStskeeps, pong11:04
Stskeepsiekku: how do i search release blockers?11:04
iekkufor some reason can't find any11:06
Stskeepsthat's good? :P11:06
Stskeepsiekku: try those who are resolved too11:07
lbtI don't actually understand them - 3 values +/-/?11:07
Stskeeps? = request11:07
Stskeeps+ granted11:07
Stskeeps- not granted11:07
iekkuand yes, Stskeeps was right11:08
* lbt edits http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Bug_Lifecycle11:08
lbt289 is a release blocker since a release shouldn't happen if it's half-accepted11:10
Stskeepscorrect, but it's not merged yet11:10
lbtyep - so we can ignore it for this release11:10
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cxl000Stskeeps I have extracted the fixed glibc packages over top of an image and am no longer getting a kernel panic due to systemd dying11:54
cxl000shell scripts arent running and the busybox-static I compiled against the earlier glibc is crashing11:56
Stskeepsarent running?11:57
cxl000I am not seeing any output from any shell base startup scripts11:58
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Stskeepsat least it booted on my r-pi11:58
slainecxl000: busy box being the shell11:58
cxl000I saw udevd start but when I subustituded it with a shell wrapper no output11:59
Stskeepscxl000: should have a version out tomorrow that'll come with the updated glibc12:00
cxl000this is with normal sh -> bash as well as busybox12:00
phaeronif busybox is static maybe it needs recompile12:00
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cxl000busybox-static crashes. I am recompiling it12:02
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Stskeepswelcome back nj3ma :)12:07
lbtphaeron: I'm stuck on the "need an x86_64 worker to build sb2 arm7/8el from cobs" too :/12:09
nj3maStskeeps: Thanks :-)12:09
lbtStskeeps: can we move priconf for armv8el cross to 586 and not x86_64 ?12:09
lbt(I worked around it with a local MDS - can't do that on cobs unless we switch all cobs too)12:10
Stskeepslbt: yes12:10
Stskeepsgood thing you reminded me12:10
Stskeepsplease file a bug with that as release blocker12:10
phaeronlbt: I was able to get a x86_64 worker up12:11
lbtI haven't trivially got one here12:12
phaeroncloning mer now12:12
lbt586 builds .. not copied yet12:12
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Stskeepssroedal: llvmpipe still not working on armv6 / llvm 3.1 at least12:37
Stskeepsbut more informative errors now12:37
sroedalStskeeps: ok12:37
Stskeepstrying svn trunk for fun12:38
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phaeronlbt: mds up, but trying to build against it says unresolvable13:21
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lbtwhat else?13:22
phaeronnothing provides rpm , glibc etc ..13:23
Stskeepsphaeron: ls -l obs-repos/13:24
phaeronah instructions a bit vague here13:24
phaeronNote: after doing "make", you should do "make update" to grab the rpm binaries.13:24
phaeronin small print. and  the bigger Update in bold gives impression you only need to do that for an update13:25
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phaeronupdated wiki13:26
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Stskeepsjoroi, congrats on the new job :)13:37
joroiStskeeps: thansk13:37
joroiunfortunately that means Mer is now just a hobby among others, but hopefully I can still arrange some time at least playing with it ;)13:42
Stskeepsyeah - food on the table first is what matters :)13:43
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phaeronlbt: still waiting for the repos to finish14:09
phaeronlbt: btw regarding the returns 503 by design. wouldn't it be better to fork a thread and keep the  connection open14:09
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Stskeepsno, it becomes a DoS like thing14:18
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phaeronStskeeps: keep the connection open , not return success :)14:26
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X-Fadephaeron, lbt: Is bossbot supposed to be silent?14:40
lbtpoor thing; it died :(14:41
phaeronlbt: I saw the issue and I'm 90% sure I fixed it14:42
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phaeronalthough in a bit of kludgy way, will try to clean it up14:44
lbtgood :)14:44
lbtis it MDS related?14:44
phaeronlbt: just a race condition afaics14:45
lbtthought so14:46
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phaeronI added a "deep check" like event at end of copybuild14:47
phaeronthat's all14:47
lbtyep - that's what I did14:48
lbtdid you manage to stop it from building before the deep check ?14:49
phaeronhaven't gotten any rebuilds so far14:50
phaeronI write the deep check before pinging the  scheduler14:50
lbtyou sure?14:51
phaeronI copied 6 times so far14:51
phaeronno rebuilds14:51
lbtOBS has commands like "get spec" ... which ping the scheduler for fun14:51
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phaeronlbt: doing a for i in seq `x  x` copy prj now14:53
lbtdid you push ?14:53
phaeronnot yet14:53
phaeron14 - 25 copyprj no rebuilds14:54
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rcginteresting... meego-terminal is not on the dvd iso image containing the open source components of harmattan pr 1.215:07
rcgat least i couldn't find it15:08
kimjuyou can find it on gitorious15:09
rcgbut this version also does not show the toolbar15:10
rcgi wanted to try if the version shipping with harmattan pr1.2 shows the toolbar on nemo15:10
rcgthat way i could narrow this issue down a little bit15:10
rcgnext try is to copy the meego-terminal binary from harmattan pr1.2 to nemo and see if it runs15:10
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rcgother way around.. using the opensource meego-terminal on harmattan is not possible due to aegis and some other issues15:11
phaeronlbt: want the tarball for 11.4 64bit ?15:13
phaeronwhere should I push it15:14
lbtit may be easier to just run a kiwi on meego15:15
lbtkiwi is on phost1415:17
lbtWarning: Repository 'update' appears to outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server.15:18
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phaeronlbt: force pushed15:28
lbtgot it - nb commit doesn't mention the event15:29
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phaeronwhat event ?15:33
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lbtwritexml("$eventdir/$arch/.$evname$$", "$eventroot/$arch/$evname", $checkev, $BSXML::event);15:34
phaeronI am not sure I understand.  it works this way15:36
lbtI was mildly criticising your commit message :)15:36
lbt"reorganize norebuild copying of files"15:36
phaeronah the commit message15:37
phaerondamn .. :D15:37
lbtrebase, force push ftw!!!15:37
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phaeronlbt: sec15:38
phaeronfound issue15:38
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phaeronlbt: force pushed15:48
lbtOK, so lets see if this works; if it does then I'd suggest some consolidation of "reorganize norebuild copying of files, write check event to scheduler to prevent inconsistent state" and "[repserver] modify copybuild so as to shortcircuit unnecessary rebuilds" too15:54
lbtalso re-organising patches into "most likely to be taken by upstream" order :)15:54
phaeronsure please test it :)15:58
lbt2.3.1.gite5adffb coming up16:01
phaeronwhy not just copy the file over16:04
lbtyou've done that16:05
lbtwhen I'm hacking I setup an NFS share to the git repo and the test boxes16:05
lbtat the moment that's not there16:06
lbthmm - a remote link really increases the load on a backend16:09
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phaeronyeah it keep cycling and cycling16:10
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CosmoHillMy boss was telling me that something on the website wasn't working17:26
CosmoHillI'm sure this has happened to you guys  too17:26
CosmoHillbut I bet he wasn't holding a 6" revolver at the time17:26
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vgradeStskeeps, \o, sorry I missed you before18:27
vgradelbt, \o18:28
vgradeStskeeps, are you still looking for a test of llvm pipe on arm18:29
trip0Stskeeps, !!18:29
trip0hi vgrade18:29
vgradetrip0, hello18:30
vgradetrip0, hows things, I've been busy with new day job, getting used to less hours for Mer and more commiting18:30
vgradecommuting :)18:31
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trip0vgrade, have a few more projects in the open now18:33
trip0for ivi18:33
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Stskeepsvgrade, sadly didnt function on 3.1 / raspberry pi18:35
Stskeepstrying svn later ttonight18:35
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trip0Stskeeps, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Atripzero&repo_Mer_Core_armv7l=1&unresolvable=118:37
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vgradetrip0, nice GoCluster18:39
vgradeStskeeps, ok18:39
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vgradetrip0, I'm looking for a qml app I may give that a go on our stack18:40
trip0if you get it packaged before I do, let me know ;)18:41
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vgradetrip0, wilko18:47
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lbthey vgrade18:58
Stskeepstrip0: cool, will look when at desk18:58
vgradelbt, evening,18:59
vgradethat time of the month18:59
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lbtphaeron: ping ... tests pretty good here - against local MDS too19:29
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lbtphaeron: now that works I'm wondering about using a hardlink for the rpms19:31
Stskeepslbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Atripzero&repo_Mer_Core_armv7l=1&unresolvable=119:33
Stskeepsdid we import prerelease wrong?19:33
Stskeepsor the binaries by chance19:36
lbtimport was done right19:37
Stskeepswell, how come it's picking up rpms that cannot be in Core in this release, then? :P19:38
lbtso was the prerelease19:38
Stskeepsit's in Core-next only AFAIK19:38
Stskeepsor am i wrong..19:38
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lbtso I saw this problem earlier and thought it was the same as that bug19:39
lbtthen I looked and noticed the existing prefer for libqt-devel19:39
Stskeepsno, indeed, qtbase was in  0.20120517.119:39
Stskeepsyes, there should be a Prefer: libqt-devel in Core's prjconf19:40
Stskeepsso it's there19:41
lbtI could remove that19:42
lbtit's messed up anyway19:42
Stskeepsstill unresolvable, run deep check?19:43
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lbtgrepping the log shows only that project has this problem19:46
Stskeepstrip0: could you be tempted to remove and re-add qjson source package?19:48
lbtoh look19:48
lbtadded it to the local prjconf and it seemed to trigger stuff19:48
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lbtso .. Mer is OK, OBS is probably a tad dodgy :/19:50
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Stskeepsin fairness we do need to rebase on 2.3.019:50
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lbtalready done19:50
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lbtactually 2.3.119:50
Stskeepsok, and we use it already on cobs? :P19:50
lbtthe meeting today was a bit rushed - forgot to info that19:50
lbtnot tested yet19:51
trip0Stskeeps, will try19:51
Stskeepstrip0: seems like lbt beated it into submission19:51
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lbttrip0: yeah - but it looks like qjson will come from a broken home :)19:51
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lbtI hacked the prjconf in your home - really should not need that19:52
lbtonce the builds are done we can remove and see if the problem recurrs19:52
lbtlike you have better thinks to do *g*19:53
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lbtmmm webui for CI is down21:04
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lbtphaeron: OK ... in here then21:54
lbtso... http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process#New_process_2 is crystal clear21:54
phaeronnot really I am still confused about it21:54
phaeronlbt: so we want to copyprj a whole  Core out of MDS to OBS21:54
lbtwe use the osc Create_a_new project_based_off_a_previous_one command21:55
phaeronie. we prjlink to a Core in MerDS and then add some changes21:55
lbtI kinda know what we need to do21:55
lbtthe idea is we copyprj *something*21:55
lbtthen we change the source in it21:56
phaeronand then when it is done we copyprj to a new release21:56
lbtif it builds OK and we like it .. it becomes the new master21:56
lbtno ?21:56
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lbtit may need publishing to MDS to become the new master21:57
lbtso ... after a few iterations we have Mer:ProjectF21:59
lbtI guess this has a <link to "something in MDS"21:59
lbtdunno what MDS:ProjectX is yet22:00
lbtProjectF builds ... makes a repo, we run mic, it passes QA22:00
lbtnow what?22:01
phaeronI think this : create project link in OBS to Core in MerDS, introduce source changes , it builds and rebuilds reverse deps, test it , if like, copyprj this to become a full project22:01
phaeronso copyprj comes  at end to transfom a project link into  a full project without rebuilding22:01
lbtso lets examine the written down idea before doing a new one22:01
lbtat this point ProjectF is the same as ProjectX inside MDS but with new code22:02
lbtso that suggests ProjectX is actually ProjectE22:02
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lbtand the next step is to "publish" ProjectF to MDS22:03
lbtthen copyproj it to ProjectG22:03
lbtand change the link in ProjectG to point to MDS:ProjectF22:03
lbtthat seems to be what Stskeeps wrote down22:03
lbtI guess "Publish it" means publish it to MDS ... otherwise MDS is not changed between iterations22:04
phaeronI have no idea what you just said22:04
lbtre-read it22:04
phaeronF X E G?22:04
lbtand if MDS is not changed then there is nothing new to "Switching <link project=""> in the new project description"22:04
lbtread it - it's logical22:04
phaeronnah , I'm tired22:05
lbtProjectF is the 'starting point' for our discussion ... it has been produced by several previous iterations22:05
lbtthe iterations are unknown22:06
lbtrather: the detail of the iterations is unknown22:06
lbtI have to say - I don't really understand the point of it22:07
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lbtit seems the simple objective is : Change 1 or more packages; allow QA to happen; use the results as the basis for the next change22:09
lbtanyhow ... I've had enough for tonight too22:10
lbtphaeron: congratulations on the prjcopy - really pleased we have it - even if I don't have a clue what we need it for :D :D :D22:10
phaeronmy original usecase is for the standard process22:10
phaeronafter doing a trial build and I want to accept a request22:11
phaeronI don't want to rebuild22:11
lbtso you copy to Trunk ?22:11
phaeronso I merge the trial project into request target22:11
lbtah, hence allowing the target to exist22:11
lbtwouldn't it be easier to erase trunk ?22:12
lbtkind of an atomic erase/copy22:12
phaeronno , the trial project is a project link to "trunk"22:13
phaeronit only rebuilds the packages being promoted and reverse deps chain22:13
lbtOK, so very different usage22:14
lbtI don't like that as the trial project isn't a full repo22:14
phaeronactually it is similar but the description on that page is vague22:14
phaeronwhy you don't like it22:14
phaeronit works great22:14
lbtcan't build an image against it22:14
phaeronyou can if you get the missing stuff from trunk22:14
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lbtthen the "set" of repos for an image has both old and new binaries for some components22:15
phaeronmic will choose the new binaries22:16
phaeronbecause their version is newer22:16
lbtso I make a mod to a package that means a binary is no longer built22:16
lbt(as I just did in ppl FYI)22:16
phaeronbinary no longer built ?22:16
lbtsome package depends on ppl-not-there22:16
lbtand it finds it in the old repo, not the new one22:17
lbtyeah, the spec used to build 3 binaries, now builds 222:17
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phaeronok , that package is a reverse dep22:17
phaeronafaik it will become unresolvable in the trial project22:18
phaeronbut I need to check22:18
lbtno, I wasn't clear22:18
lbtppl used to build libppl and libpwl22:18
lbtnow it only builds libppl22:18
phaeron.rpm ? or .so ?22:18
lbtlibpwl rpm22:19
lbtbut libpwl exists in Trunk22:19
lbtand, once merged, shouldn't be there22:19
lbtsimilarly for renamed rpms22:20
lbthence the desire to purge/copy22:20
phaeronas I said afair it should appear unresolvable in trial area22:20
lbtbearing in mind we mainly use ln then it's OK22:20
phaeronif  not then its a bug in linked project that needs to be addressed22:21
phaeronafair localdep should  do that22:21
lbteven so, it'll end up in the repo22:21
phaeronwhat repo ?22:21
lbtbs_publish repo22:21
phaeronif you get unresolvable reverse deps you shouldn't even try building a test image22:21
phaeronthat's the definition of a trial project22:22
phaeronusing prjlink22:22
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lbtin january it produces libpwl22:22
lbtso that exists in Trunk's published repo and list of rpms22:22
lbtin feb I remove it22:23
phaeronyou're not getting me22:23
lbtthere's a problem as something ftb22:23
phaeronlocaldep should resolve deps from packages that exist in trial project only22:23
phaeronif they don't exist it goes up a level22:23
lbtsrc package or rpm package22:23
phaeronso if the package being promoted doesn't produce foo.rpm anymore , then its reverse dep should fail to build22:24
phaeronin the trial project22:24
lbtOK ... so, lets say we solve that ... and it fails to build22:24
lbtwe fix the faulty package22:24
lbtall is well22:24
lbtwe merge back22:24
lbthow is libpwl.rpm (built in january) deleted ?22:25
lbtI'm happy if the build/<prj>/<repo>/:full *is* purged22:27
phaeronnot sure if it will be with current code, probably needs testing22:27
phaeronbecause upto now we are prjcopying to nonexistent project and it gets created22:27
phaeronmy "merge" use case is the next step22:28
phaeronnot yet tested22:28
lbtmerge may remove build/<prj>/<repo>/<pkg>/*22:28
lbtand then remove/rebuild :full22:28
lbtthat would work22:28
lbtwe also need a way to cope with "delete package"22:29
phaeronthe scheduler triggers publisher anyway so that part should work22:29
phaeronlbt: I had looked at delete package for prjlink but it is quite complex22:29
lbt*nod* ... it may be that we do a copyprj and then delete it :)22:30
lbtanyhow ... tired now22:30
phaeronok gnight22:31
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trip0so if I have a hf compiled kernel, will said kernel work on a softfloat userland?23:10
trip0seems like I was able to use a softfloat kernel on a hf userland23:10
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