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E-P | good morning | 04:50 |
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timoph | morning | 05:01 |
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ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: any instructions for qtmobility's architecture can be available? | 06:45 |
Stskeeps | check qt documentation, and the .spec file for it | 06:46 |
Stskeeps | i'm offline this week due to being in denmark instead of poland | 06:46 |
ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: ok, have a good time there | 06:47 |
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tadzik | huh, they have no internet in denmark? ;) | 10:32 |
CosmoHill | then how do they procrastinate? | 10:33 |
tadzik | *gasp* | 10:33 |
tadzik | maybe they just leave procrastination for later | 10:34 |
CosmoHill | so, how are you? | 10:36 |
tadzik | mostly running around screaming in terror these days. 4 projects to turn over, 4 exams this week and 3 tomorrow | 10:37 |
CosmoHill | ah you're a student | 10:37 |
tadzik | well, 2 projects as for now | 10:37 |
tadzik | aye | 10:37 |
CosmoHill | what are you studying? | 10:37 |
tadzik | already sent mail to $dayjob that I won't come til at least thursay | 10:37 |
tadzik | computer science | 10:38 |
tadzik | well, slacking off the entire semester finally pays off | 10:38 |
CosmoHill | I was doing a database assignment, talked to my friends about it and found out I'd done it totally wrong | 10:39 |
CosmoHill | so I scrapped it and started again, on a wednesday and handed it in on friday | 10:40 |
CosmoHill | got an A for it :) | 10:40 |
tadzik | nice one ;) | 10:40 |
tadzik | I've not even started my Databases project | 10:40 |
tadzik | it's not due this week and not the next either | 10:40 |
CosmoHill | my advise, go to bed later and later each day, instead of trying to pull a single all nighter | 10:41 |
tadzik | I'm doing this every summer ;) | 10:42 |
tadzik | and then I'm doing an all nighter to balance that | 10:42 |
CosmoHill | I ended up going to bed about 2 / 3am and getting up 9 / 10am | 10:42 |
tadzik | no, I'm trying to stay mostly sane this time, as in not live on sugar and coffeine | 10:43 |
CosmoHill | that's the thing, I don't drink coffee or redbull | 10:43 |
E-P | when do you have semester summer break? In Finland the summer break starts usually in May or June and ends on September | 10:43 |
CosmoHill | E-P: same for my uni but most other unis go back in october | 10:43 |
CosmoHill | I've graduated btw :) | 10:44 |
E-P | great! :) | 10:44 |
tadzik | on my university it starts July 1st | 10:44 |
CosmoHill | stupid powermac, doesn't work at all now | 10:46 |
CosmoHill | it would be quiter to have a leaf blower in my bedroom | 10:47 |
CosmoHill | tadzik: what year are you in? | 10:49 |
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tadzik | CosmoHill: that's my 3rd year now | 10:52 |
tadzik | in a year from now I'd be holding an engineer degree ( probably) | 10:52 |
tadzik | which is an equivalent of bachelor, afaics | 10:53 |
CosmoHill | cool | 10:54 |
CosmoHill | my plan was to get a job after uni, if I didn't get one within a year I'd go back and do a masters | 10:54 |
tadzik | I'm still to choose my topic for the thesis (?) | 10:54 |
CosmoHill | that changed cos I was told to do a PHD, not a masters, and the hung parliament tripled student fees | 10:55 |
tadzik | I'm working part-time now, and I'm trying hard not to ignore studies all the way | 10:55 |
tadzik | I'm afraid that if I take a break I'll never come back, and I would like to finish those studies | 10:55 |
CosmoHill | I wouldn't take a break | 10:56 |
CosmoHill | some of my friends left their jobs in their third year | 10:56 |
E-P | yes, try to make your studies all the time a bit forward | 10:56 |
E-P | I had many colleges that did a break and they were still working after 10 years without any degree | 10:57 |
E-P | if you have lot's of working experience, the degree doesn't matter so much but it is always nice to have :) | 10:57 |
CosmoHill | the last few months of my degree became one | 11:00 |
lbt | afternoon all :) | 11:00 |
CosmoHill | if I have the right amount of pressure I can work very very well, I spent two weeks solid finished off my dissertation, just writing it | 11:00 |
CosmoHill | hey lbt | 11:01 |
tadzik | hello | 11:01 |
lbt | hey CosmoHill - got time today eh? | 11:01 |
CosmoHill | oh bollocks, I was gonna have a bike ride after lunch but I've just seen massive black clouds | 11:01 |
E-P | hi lbt \o | 11:01 |
lbt | CosmoHill: of course... bank holiday rain | 11:01 |
CosmoHill | lbt: I graduated last october :p | 11:01 |
lbt | hey E-P | 11:01 |
E-P | how is your hacking-house-building going? | 11:02 |
* lbt would like some help sanity checking new SDK later too if anyone is up for it | 11:02 | |
lbt | E-P: did some plumbing saturday morning | 11:02 |
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CosmoHill | I wonder why packages just grow and grow | 11:04 |
CosmoHill | pkg-config has used to have glib, but not you need to compile it seperately, but now the current glib requires libefi and python | 11:04 |
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Bostik | dependency on python might come from rpmlint, I think | 11:06 |
CosmoHill | oh great, just found out I didn't need the glib package at all cos pkg-config 0.26 has an internal one that you just need to enable | 11:07 |
CosmoHill | ah, ignore that, someone bundled it | 11:10 |
CosmoHill | btw, if any of you are compiling vim soon, I have a large patch of all their current patches for 7.3 | 11:13 |
alterego | lbt: I'd be interested in helping if I can. | 11:13 |
alterego | Need to install the SDK on my new OS install so would be a fine opportunity ;) | 11:13 |
lbt | alterego: OK, let me finish triage | 11:13 |
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* CosmoHill finds it stupid that a patch from coreutils 5.97 is still required at 8.16 | 11:25 | |
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alterego | Good afternoon jukkaeklund :) | 11:31 |
jukkaeklund | hi there | 11:31 |
alterego | How're you doing these days? | 11:31 |
jukkaeklund | well, thanks how bout you? | 11:31 |
alterego | Yeah, not too bad, quite busy right now, but coming to the end of some work so looking forward to a short break | 11:32 |
jukkaeklund | nice | 11:32 |
jukkaeklund | can we expect you to visit tampere for our summit? | 11:33 |
alterego | It's possible, /me checks the dates. | 11:33 |
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jukkaeklund | would be cool to meet again | 11:33 |
alterego | Yeah, I heard Randy is attending, would be quite cool to see a few faces. As I didn't make it to the Tizen conf in the end. | 11:34 |
alterego | I'll check flight costs and hopefully I'm not doing anything that weekend. :) | 11:44 |
alterego | But I've got a feeling there's something I might be doing on the 18th .. | 11:44 |
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lbt | alterego: costs are stupid high apart from Ryanair - and they don't fly back on sunday | 11:48 |
CosmoHill | lbt: that is why all the adverts want you to take a hoilday in the UK | 11:57 |
jukkaeklund | alterego, which city are you based? | 11:58 |
alterego | Cambridge | 11:59 |
* CosmoHill has been there once | 11:59 | |
iekku | CosmoHill, my inner jukebox just started to play Holiday in Cambodia | 12:00 |
CosmoHill | hehe | 12:01 |
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lbt | alterego: https://img.merproject.org/images/web/lbt/3-20120604-122631/ | 12:45 |
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alterego | cool, I'll give it a whirl | 12:55 |
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alterego | lbt: installing now | 13:26 |
alterego | Not used a sb2 based one yet. | 13:26 |
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alterego | lbt: what would you like me to test? | 13:45 |
alterego | I'm currently attempting to build an N950 base image. | 13:46 |
alterego | Was/Is there anything in particular you want me to test? | 13:46 |
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alterego | Seems to have built my images fine :) | 13:50 |
alterego | Will try building packages next. | 13:50 |
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alterego | lbt: package building is working fine too. | 14:06 |
lbt | alterego: good | 14:19 |
lbt | thanks - I'll do a final release soon then | 14:19 |
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CosmoHill | hey GeneralAntilles | 15:46 |
GeneralAntilles | Howdy | 15:46 |
tadzik | hello | 15:47 |
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CosmoHill | how much of a bitch is it to move a system from sysvinit to systemd? | 15:48 |
tadzik | notmuch, I guess | 15:49 |
tadzik | I've been on a talk of this guy from systemd, seemed to make sense | 15:49 |
tadzik | ...oh, you mean how complicated is it? | 15:49 |
CosmoHill | yes | 15:50 |
tadzik | heh. I read "how much of a bitch is it" as "how much does it suck to" ;) | 15:50 |
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alterego | CosmoHill: what syste | 15:53 |
alterego | what system are you talking about :) | 15:53 |
CosmoHill | cross linux from scratch | 15:53 |
CosmoHill | a year or so ago I was thinking of moving to systemd and using the meego boot scripts | 15:54 |
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CosmoHill | so far I've installed sysvinit and made /etc/inittab | 15:57 |
alterego | ah, lfs is cool, learned a lot doing those :) | 15:58 |
CosmoHill | glade to hear it | 15:58 |
CosmoHill | I'm clfs' lead developer | 15:58 |
CosmoHill | / only >.< | 15:58 |
alterego | :) | 15:59 |
alterego | cool | 15:59 |
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CosmoHill | looks like for a base clfs I'd need to do 20 to 22 bootscripts for systemd | 16:01 |
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alterego | CosmoHill: I'm sure there are some generic ones out there for you to poach | 16:08 |
CosmoHill | I was asking auke about the meego ones | 16:09 |
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marcello|2 | hallo | 16:40 |
CosmoHill | hi | 16:40 |
marcello|2 | is there experience to install meego on a tablet zt180 | 16:40 |
marcello|2 | ? | 16:40 |
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jeremiah_ | ehlo localhost | 17:39 |
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Sage | hmmp... why I can't push my changes to review... | 18:36 |
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lbt | Sage: ? | 19:06 |
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Sage | git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master doesn't respond :/ | 19:26 |
lbt | OK | 19:27 |
lbt | it let you login I see | 19:30 |
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lbt | Sage: it's dead all right ... but I can't find any docs on how to re-start it | 19:44 |
jbos_ | hi | 19:45 |
jbos_ | just a short one, how can i install files by rpm with user ownership? | 19:45 |
jbos_ | i tried %defattr (-,1000,1000,-) | 19:46 |
jbos_ | doesn't seem to do the thing | 19:46 |
jbos_ | dont like to hardcode username? | 19:46 |
jbos_ | dont like to hardcode username.. | 19:46 |
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lbt | http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/s1-rpm-inside-files-list-directives.html "the user and group are specified as a string" | 19:51 |
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jbos_ | mh | 19:53 |
jbos_ | so I need to type i.e. "nemo" | 19:53 |
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jbos_ | doesn't seem very generic | 19:54 |
lbt | in general you shouldn't be using rpm to install files owned by a normal user | 19:55 |
lbt | if anything it should be a 'system user' such as "mysql" or "www-data" or something | 19:55 |
jbos_ | good point | 19:56 |
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jbos_ | m thing is, its some pre-generated content | 20:01 |
jbos_ | for a webruntime,.. and I wonder if its a good idea to run the runtime as root | 20:02 |
jbos_ | ... | 20:02 |
lbt | no, it's not | 20:02 |
jbos_ | ha yep., :) | 20:03 |
lbt | however ... files owned by root != run as root | 20:03 |
lbt | look who owns all the files in /bin | 20:03 |
jbos_ | sure sure, | 20:04 |
lbt | so typically you'd set the files owned by root (unless they need to be modified by the user?) and mode 644 or 755 | 20:04 |
jbos_ | well they are going to be mofided... | 20:05 |
jbos_ | modified.. | 20:05 |
jbos_ | thats the thing. | 20:05 |
lbt | OK, so then they are usually 'samples' | 20:05 |
lbt | and the user is expected to copy them to a local dir and use them | 20:05 |
lbt | can you explain more about your use-case? | 20:06 |
lbt | pastie a file list? | 20:06 |
lbt | Sage: restarted gerrit - seems to be OK now | 20:06 |
jbos_ | well its pretty short to explains so, its a pregenerated offline cache for mozilla saving some html5 apps. | 20:08 |
jbos_ | thing is, that forls | 20:09 |
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jbos_ | I could avoid that, i.e. by running a small webserver on the device | 20:09 |
jbos_ | :) | 20:09 |
jbos_ | but I didn't wanted to go into that, yet | 20:10 |
lbt | hmm | 20:10 |
lbt | so it sounds like you need to provide the user a comand to copy the cache into their $HOME | 20:11 |
jbos_ | yep | 20:11 |
lbt | then in the post- script run that command as the "nemo" user | 20:11 |
jbos_ | I need to verify that there isn't some hardcoded path to that default path... | 20:11 |
jbos_ | :) | 20:12 |
lbt | also you'll duplicate the data -but you gain a 'reset' capability | 20:12 |
jbos_ | true enough | 20:13 |
jbos_ | alright, this seem to be the way | 20:13 |
jbos_ | thanks | 20:14 |
jbos_ | :) | 20:14 |
lbt | np | 20:14 |
jbos_ | ah. btw for the n950 /nemo without ui/ is there a way to init wifi on console | 20:17 |
CosmoHill | this is a good example of a binge coder > http://cross-lfs.org/view/svn/x86_64-64/introduction/changelog.html | 20:17 |
Sage | lbt: hmmp. still doesn't respond to my push. | 20:18 |
CosmoHill | Sage: you're not pushing hard enough | 20:18 |
lbt | what about : ssh -p 29418 sage@review.merproject.org gerrit ls-projects ? | 20:19 |
phaeron | jbos_: connman-test somewhere in /usr/lib/ | 20:19 |
jbos_ | m not installed, ok need to check thanks | 20:19 |
phaeron | jbos_: cd /usr/lib/connman/test ; ./test-connman enable wifi | 20:20 |
phaeron | jbos_: from http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Vivaldi | 20:20 |
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jbos_ | ye i have there only scripts | 20:20 |
jbos_ | "openconnect-script" | 20:21 |
Sage | lbt: that works | 20:23 |
lbt | Sage: OK - that was blocking for me before I restarted it | 20:23 |
Sage | strange | 20:24 |
lbt | Sage: I don't see any ssh connections for pushes from you | 20:25 |
lbt | maybe now... | 20:25 |
Sage | now? | 20:25 |
Sage | \o/ | 20:25 |
Sage | works now | 20:25 |
lbt | yep - saw | 20:25 |
Sage | did you do something? :) | 20:25 |
lbt | not for quite a few mins | 20:26 |
lbt | looks good now - dbc seems to have it | 20:27 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: su gerrit2 , cd review_site/bin ./gerrit restart | 20:39 |
Stskeeps | ish | 20:39 |
lbt | Stskeeps: yep - figured it out ... and put it in admin wiki : | 20:43 |
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jbos_ | urgs, my mer obs doesn't boot anymre... mysql doen't want to start and kvm goes 100% | 21:04 |
jbos_ | not good | 21:04 |
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jbos_ | just restarted full server... works again,, had some fuser at 9999% cpu oO | 21:10 |
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jbos_ | lets check for this | 21:10 |
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vgrade | jbos_ you need connman-test package installed to get scripts installed | 21:43 |
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cxl000 | Stskeeps I also get a signal 4 when booting with init=/bin/sh. I am going to try building a static busybox with the working glibc and try that as /bin/sh | 21:45 |
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lbt | testing SDK upgrades is boring.... | 22:46 |
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