Tuesday, 2012-05-29

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sonachStskeeps: I sent a mail with subject 'Any convinent way for building src-tarball in Mer'. Would you please take a look at it when you have time? thank you:)01:04
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timophmorn04:13
iekkumorning04:24
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Stskeepsmorn04:43
Bostiksomething like that04:43
E-Pmorning timoph, iekku, Stskeeps, Bostik04:44
iekkumorning E-P04:45
Sagemorning all04:46
Stskeepsso, anything important i missed yesterday?04:50
rcg1morning04:51
Stskeepsmorn rcg104:51
rcg1Stskeeps: feeling better today?04:51
Stskeepsyeah, a bit04:52
iekkugood04:52
rcg1sounds good04:54
rcg1hope you get fully up soon04:54
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StskeepsSage: merged the libnl + crda etc cabal05:19
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StskeepsSage: did we push connman 1.0 yet?05:30
E-Phm, min is configured to use python 2.5 or 2.605:34
Stskeepsprobably just a bad hardcode05:34
Stskeepsit should work fine on 2.705:34
E-Pyep, trying that at the moment05:36
timophyep. blame sampos :p05:37
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E-PI think we could use pkgconfig to detect python version and link against it05:38
Stskeepsor just use %{python_version} or whatever it was05:38
Stskeepsthere's nice rpm macros for the purpose05:39
E-Pah, checking05:39
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E-Pwhat is the correct way to link package/project to another project? I have projects QA:Tests and QA:Tools, and some of the tests buildrequire a package from the QA:Tools05:55
E-Pusing the _link?05:55
Stskeepsideally <repository> and <path> in the project meta05:57
Stskeepsie, you indicate to obs you'd like to pick up packages from a certain project/repo05:57
E-Pmakes sense, thanks05:58
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E-Pworks too06:07
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SageStskeeps: yes connman went in already07:28
SageStskeeps: ofono didn't go in yet though.07:28
Stskeepsok07:28
Stskeepsanything else that's mandatory in content?07:28
SageI think that should be it.07:29
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SageI need to check the ofono on N950 and N900 still and see if it works when SIM card is in.07:30
Stskeepsok07:31
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StskeepsSage: btw, tizen no longer uses mkinitrd and grubby07:32
SageStskeeps: yes, someone told that you noticed that07:32
Stskeepsand kernel 3.2 booted on exopc for me07:32
SageI'm happy about that fact as grubby and mkinitrd is a mess IMO07:32
Stskeepsotoh, there only seems to be 'raw' images, livecd/liveusb seems broken when /boot/initrd* is missing07:32
Stskeepsuh-huh07:32
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SageStskeeps: btw, module-init-tools is obsoleted by kmod.07:33
Sagehowever some of our adaptation still probably use module-init-tools not sure though07:33
Sagealso our kmod needs update07:33
Stskeepsok07:34
Stskeepskmod does depmod or how does it work?07:34
Sageyes, haven't tried though if it is same cmd though07:39
Sagekmod is dependency of systemd07:39
SageWe removed the several kmod-* tools that mimic the module-init-tools ones. Now07:39
Sagethere's only one tool called 'kmod' that does the right thing when symlinks are07:39
Sageused with the previous names.07:39
Sagehttp://lwn.net/Articles/474371/07:39
Sagewe probably are missing some symlinks from our kmod package07:40
Stskeepslooks like it07:40
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* Sage ponders what is the technology for ofono in connman to enable it08:01
Stskeepstelephony? list-technologies?08:02
Sagethere is no list-technologies08:02
Sagetelephony, 3g, grps, phone ... no go08:02
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Sagemight be that ofono just doesn't work or something08:04
Stskeepstest-connman ?08:05
Sagelist-modems returns empty08:05
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Sageit worked before08:06
SageI wonder what is problem now08:07
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Sageok, connman is givin me hard time as well :(08:12
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Sage0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 usb008:13
Sagethat route is messing things a bit :)08:13
Stskeepsyes08:14
Sagehttp://pastie.org/398735908:15
Sageso..08:15
Sagehttp://pastie.org/3987367 <- might be related to ofono problems08:16
Stskeepsyes08:18
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Sageok, reboot removed that bad route and now I got usb networking working at least08:19
SageI just wonder why I could not remove it with route cmd08:19
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SageFFS. it is back :D08:20
* Sage kills connman08:20
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Sageso something funny with connman happening as well08:21
Stskeepsperhaps it tries to dhcp on the usb?08:23
Sageperhaps08:23
Sagehttp://pastie.org/398740108:23
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SageE-P: couple of questions. Any idea what would be the package name for subpackage for tests, -tests? Mainly asking as we have also test scripts that could be in -test subpackage and with test scripts I mean test scripts provided by upstream for example.09:35
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E-PSage: we used the -tests naming in maemo and meego, and we could use that as well09:38
Sageok09:38
Sagewhat about the location of the tests any specific directory in mind?09:38
Sage/usr/lib/tests/<packagename>, /opt/tests/<packagename>/ or something similar?09:39
E-P/usr/share/<packagename> has been used before09:40
E-Pare you using test definition for tests or something else?09:40
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E-Pah, if you mean test binaries, I don't was there any specific location for them09:41
SageJust generic thoughs, nothing specific yet. IMO it would be cleaner if the dir would have /tests/ subdir there. Also if tests are compiled those can't go to /usr/share/09:41
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E-P+remember09:42
E-Pit was a bit of wild wild west style with the locations in the maemo/meego09:43
E-Pwe used the /usr/lib/tests/09:43
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E-PI don't like that the test executables are under /usr/lib/tests, so we could use /opt/tests/<packagename>09:46
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SageStskeeps: any idea about the HSI error, where it suddently originated. it happens even without ofono10:19
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lamarquehi. Has udisks been removed from Mer images?10:21
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Sagelamarque: has it been in Mer at somepoint?10:22
lamarquegood question. I am not sure it it was, I am testing the Plasma Active image based on Mer and it is not there anymore.10:23
SageAFAIK it haven't been part of Mer at least. Maybe Plasma Active had it in their repos?10:23
lamarqueno, udisks is not in any repo we created. It is in the old Meego repos, but not in any repo we use to create the image based on Mer.10:25
Sagewell, I haven't seen it in Mer at least10:26
lamarqueok, thanks.10:28
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dcthangStskeeps: will u join this one? https://smartdevcon.eu/10:49
lamarquecould you include udisks in Mer by default? We need it for Plasma Active.10:52
Sagelamarque: You should push it to CE:MW:PlasmaActive project instead first if you need it. That has alraedy components that are not in Mer but are used by Plasma Active11:00
lamarqueSage: ok, i will do it.11:01
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lbtStskeeps: are you up for the RM meeting or shall we defer ?11:04
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* lbt assumes we'll have this meeting another time and goes back to laying slabs...11:14
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phaeronlbt: ping11:37
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Stskeepslbt, calendar had it as 2pm my time, was driving12:22
Stskeepsbut metro broke down so wont be home anyway12:22
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lbtphaeron: pong12:30
lbtStskeeps: OK - thought it was 12 local time12:30
phaeronlbt: it's ok was just a hiccup12:33
lbtOK12:34
lbtbtw, is IMG being a bit odd ?12:34
lbtare there 2 workers? and one doesn't work quite right?12:34
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phaeronlbt: never touched it12:56
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Stskeepssonach: SDK questions lbt is good with :)13:24
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sonachStskeeps: yes, I have read the email, and I am glad to see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2, I think that would be the final solution.13:26
Stskeeps:nod:13:26
Stskeepssonach: it's going forward with mini-mer, 31mb compressed, 91mb uncompressed bootable base system with busybox13:27
sonachStskeeps: cool, can I use this version in the future? and what file system is it to compressed 91mb to 31mb?13:28
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Stskeepssonach: this was just approximation with tar + gz13:29
sonachStskeeps: ok. next release will use busybox?13:31
sonachor just a test?13:31
Stskeepsright now it's research, but i hope to give the choice in one of the next releases13:31
Stskeepsfirst you need a prototype to find all the problems, so13:32
sonachyes:)13:32
sonachanother question. Can Mer support NTFS?13:33
Stskeepskernel issue mostly13:33
Stskeepsand maybe one two packages13:34
sonachhmm, how to test it? (now I have a SATA-USB disk with a lot of test movies on it, some are larger than 4GB, so NTFS was used before)13:35
Stskeepswell, enable it in your kernel and try to mount it13:35
Stskeepsyou might need a package called ntfsprogs13:36
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sonachStskeeps: OK:)13:37
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sonachStskeeps: and we solved the problem of Chinese characters. It is because we edit it in Windows by samba, then bad encoding:) internalization is always a boring thing to do.13:41
sonachwill go to sleep and see you tomorrow:)13:43
Stskeepsit is certainly a challenge, but well worth it for non western markets13:43
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Stskeepssee you, sleep well13:43
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Sageunresolvable: nothing provides /usr/bin/desktop-file-install14:32
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* Sage ponders where is the bug14:32
Stskeepsdesktop-file-utils ?14:33
w00tStskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_GE49c2fZk14:33
w00tfinally got rotation working more as i want14:33
Stskeepswill watch when i get off the sofa14:33
SageStskeeps: yes, but why doesn't obs find it now14:34
Stskeepsobs'es fileprovdes isn't too stable?14:34
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Sagebut why it fails now :)14:37
Sageit worked before AFAIK14:46
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Sagethis is not so nice.14:56
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Stskeepsfileprovides: needed maybe14:58
Sageit should need that we had similar thing with the gtk-update-icon-cache thingy14:58
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SageStskeeps: Provides fixes it so maybe something in rpm already that is broken?15:11
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Sageor maybe it just needs to be defined explicitly for each binary...15:15
Stskeeps aybe15:15
Sageoh... darn. Bug in spectacle actually15:19
Sagethat thing should be buildrequired but requires(post) or pre :D15:20
Stskeepsah15:20
* Sage curses himself15:20
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Sagein Requires those work fine and we have been using those as well15:20
SageMixed the two15:20
Sageerr... no it users it in %install...15:22
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Sageok, need to make another update for spectacle soon as that is really blocker in some cases.15:24
StskeepsOK15:24
Sageanyone noted anything else in spectacle 0.24? :)15:26
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Stskeeps'lo mdfe_ :)16:16
mdfe_hi Stskeeps16:17
Stskeepsmdfe_: locales missing was a bug that i wish noone else will ever have to solve, fedora's build-locale-archive is pure magic :)16:18
mdfe_ouch, sounds like pain16:18
Stskeepsi figured it out and was able to make a 31mb uncompressed mer image with systemd+busybox+glibc that way :P16:19
Stskeepseven with en_US intact16:19
mdfe_awesome!!!16:19
Stskeepserr16:19
Stskeeps31 mb compressed i mean16:19
Stskeepsand it booted on exo16:19
mdfe_:)16:20
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jbos_ping sage17:48
jbos_I was playing with n950 + nemo. actually i tried to start xterm and not meegotouch home17:48
jbos_... but the screen stayed simply black... any clue?17:49
jbos_so what i did was simply alter the meegotouch home desktop file17:50
jbos_or stskeeps17:51
jbos_:) maybe y know too :D17:51
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Stskeepswhat compositor?17:53
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smokuwhere would I find platform sdk ks?18:00
smokusame place as sdk image?18:00
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jbos_mcompositor18:09
jbos_some X + xdg + mcompositor18:09
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jbos_X is running18:11
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Stskeepssmoku: yeah18:12
jbos_when i start xterm over ssh it seems to start but no display in screen18:12
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Stskeepssure it just didn't turn off the screen? :P18:13
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jbos_screen gets turned off all the time, but on power key light gos on18:13
jbos_so screen is off after 5 sek18:14
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jbos_mhm what is kondemand?18:18
Stskeepskernel process18:19
jbos_I ask since it uses 40-90% cpu18:19
jbos_doesn't seem correct18:19
smokuStskeeps: any idea why /etc/bash_completion.d/ isn't processed at login?18:20
Stskeepssmoku: in sdk?18:20
Stskeepsperhaps not a login shell18:20
smokuin standard build18:20
smokui legged in on tty218:20
smokulogged18:20
Stskeepssmoku: hmm18:21
Stskeepsshould be..18:21
Stskeepssmoku: keep in mind this bash is ancient-ish though18:21
smokuit works fine on SDK though :/18:21
Stskeepssounds like something worth a bug18:22
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smokuStskeeps: ok... it _doesn't_ work on SDK too18:27
smokuI just did18:27
smoku$ grep completion ~/.*prof*18:27
smoku/home/smoku/.mersdk.profile:. /etc/bash_completion.d/git18:27
smokumy aging memory doesn't serve me well18:28
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jbos_mmm so i altered it back to original18:29
jbos_and it works fine.18:29
jbos_so meegotouch home does some black magic here18:30
* jbos_ is not happy18:30
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Stskeepssmoku: btw, https://smartdevcon.eu/content/en/program-2.html18:36
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jbos_um, wait, now it works.18:37
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smokujbos_: voodoo18:44
smokuStskeeps: roadtrip?18:44
Stskeepssmoku: maybe - i'd encourage you to submit something on cordia as well :)18:45
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smokuStskeeps: I will think about18:56
smokubut I don't have a topic right at the top of my head :/18:56
Stskeepssmoku: still a month to go :)18:58
smokuare you presenting?18:59
Stskeepssmoku: yeah, though havent been deciding exactly about what18:59
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Stskeepsshould probably do that soon, hmm19:00
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smokuBTW, I just pushed cordia-hd-i586.20120529 build to http://cordiahd.org/download/HD/19:06
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smokuStskeeps: if 'osc build' fails with [Errno 2] No such file or directory, what should I check?21:01
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