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| sonach | Stskeeps: I sent a mail with subject 'Any convinent way for building src-tarball in Mer'. Would you please take a look at it when you have time? thank you:) | 01:04 |
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| timoph | morn | 04:13 |
| iekku | morning | 04:24 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:43 |
| Bostik | something like that | 04:43 |
| E-P | morning timoph, iekku, Stskeeps, Bostik | 04:44 |
| iekku | morning E-P | 04:45 |
| Sage | morning all | 04:46 |
| Stskeeps | so, anything important i missed yesterday? | 04:50 |
| rcg1 | morning | 04:51 |
| Stskeeps | morn rcg1 | 04:51 |
| rcg1 | Stskeeps: feeling better today? | 04:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, a bit | 04:52 |
| iekku | good | 04:52 |
| rcg1 | sounds good | 04:54 |
| rcg1 | hope you get fully up soon | 04:54 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: merged the libnl + crda etc cabal | 05:19 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: did we push connman 1.0 yet? | 05:30 |
| E-P | hm, min is configured to use python 2.5 or 2.6 | 05:34 |
| Stskeeps | probably just a bad hardcode | 05:34 |
| Stskeeps | it should work fine on 2.7 | 05:34 |
| E-P | yep, trying that at the moment | 05:36 |
| timoph | yep. blame sampos :p | 05:37 |
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| E-P | I think we could use pkgconfig to detect python version and link against it | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | or just use %{python_version} or whatever it was | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | there's nice rpm macros for the purpose | 05:39 |
| E-P | ah, checking | 05:39 |
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| E-P | what is the correct way to link package/project to another project? I have projects QA:Tests and QA:Tools, and some of the tests buildrequire a package from the QA:Tools | 05:55 |
| E-P | using the _link? | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | ideally <repository> and <path> in the project meta | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | ie, you indicate to obs you'd like to pick up packages from a certain project/repo | 05:57 |
| E-P | makes sense, thanks | 05:58 |
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| E-P | works too | 06:07 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: yes connman went in already | 07:28 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ofono didn't go in yet though. | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | anything else that's mandatory in content? | 07:28 |
| Sage | I think that should be it. | 07:29 |
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| Sage | I need to check the ofono on N950 and N900 still and see if it works when SIM card is in. | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:31 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: btw, tizen no longer uses mkinitrd and grubby | 07:32 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes, someone told that you noticed that | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | and kernel 3.2 booted on exopc for me | 07:32 |
| Sage | I'm happy about that fact as grubby and mkinitrd is a mess IMO | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | otoh, there only seems to be 'raw' images, livecd/liveusb seems broken when /boot/initrd* is missing | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | uh-huh | 07:32 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: btw, module-init-tools is obsoleted by kmod. | 07:33 |
| Sage | however some of our adaptation still probably use module-init-tools not sure though | 07:33 |
| Sage | also our kmod needs update | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | kmod does depmod or how does it work? | 07:34 |
| Sage | yes, haven't tried though if it is same cmd though | 07:39 |
| Sage | kmod is dependency of systemd | 07:39 |
| Sage | We removed the several kmod-* tools that mimic the module-init-tools ones. Now | 07:39 |
| Sage | there's only one tool called 'kmod' that does the right thing when symlinks are | 07:39 |
| Sage | used with the previous names. | 07:39 |
| Sage | http://lwn.net/Articles/474371/ | 07:39 |
| Sage | we probably are missing some symlinks from our kmod package | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | looks like it | 07:40 |
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| * Sage ponders what is the technology for ofono in connman to enable it | 08:01 | |
| Stskeeps | telephony? list-technologies? | 08:02 |
| Sage | there is no list-technologies | 08:02 |
| Sage | telephony, 3g, grps, phone ... no go | 08:02 |
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| Sage | might be that ofono just doesn't work or something | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | test-connman ? | 08:05 |
| Sage | list-modems returns empty | 08:05 |
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| Sage | it worked before | 08:06 |
| Sage | I wonder what is problem now | 08:07 |
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| Sage | ok, connman is givin me hard time as well :( | 08:12 |
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| Sage | 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 | 08:13 |
| Sage | that route is messing things a bit :) | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:14 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3987359 | 08:15 |
| Sage | so.. | 08:15 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3987367 <- might be related to ofono problems | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:18 |
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| Sage | ok, reboot removed that bad route and now I got usb networking working at least | 08:19 |
| Sage | I just wonder why I could not remove it with route cmd | 08:19 |
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| Sage | FFS. it is back :D | 08:20 |
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| Sage | so something funny with connman happening as well | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps it tries to dhcp on the usb? | 08:23 |
| Sage | perhaps | 08:23 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3987401 | 08:23 |
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| Sage | E-P: couple of questions. Any idea what would be the package name for subpackage for tests, -tests? Mainly asking as we have also test scripts that could be in -test subpackage and with test scripts I mean test scripts provided by upstream for example. | 09:35 |
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| E-P | Sage: we used the -tests naming in maemo and meego, and we could use that as well | 09:38 |
| Sage | ok | 09:38 |
| Sage | what about the location of the tests any specific directory in mind? | 09:38 |
| Sage | /usr/lib/tests/<packagename>, /opt/tests/<packagename>/ or something similar? | 09:39 |
| E-P | /usr/share/<packagename> has been used before | 09:40 |
| E-P | are you using test definition for tests or something else? | 09:40 |
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| E-P | ah, if you mean test binaries, I don't was there any specific location for them | 09:41 |
| Sage | Just generic thoughs, nothing specific yet. IMO it would be cleaner if the dir would have /tests/ subdir there. Also if tests are compiled those can't go to /usr/share/ | 09:41 |
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| E-P | +remember | 09:42 |
| E-P | it was a bit of wild wild west style with the locations in the maemo/meego | 09:43 |
| E-P | we used the /usr/lib/tests/ | 09:43 |
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| E-P | I don't like that the test executables are under /usr/lib/tests, so we could use /opt/tests/<packagename> | 09:46 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: any idea about the HSI error, where it suddently originated. it happens even without ofono | 10:19 |
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| lamarque | hi. Has udisks been removed from Mer images? | 10:21 |
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| Sage | lamarque: has it been in Mer at somepoint? | 10:22 |
| lamarque | good question. I am not sure it it was, I am testing the Plasma Active image based on Mer and it is not there anymore. | 10:23 |
| Sage | AFAIK it haven't been part of Mer at least. Maybe Plasma Active had it in their repos? | 10:23 |
| lamarque | no, udisks is not in any repo we created. It is in the old Meego repos, but not in any repo we use to create the image based on Mer. | 10:25 |
| Sage | well, I haven't seen it in Mer at least | 10:26 |
| lamarque | ok, thanks. | 10:28 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: will u join this one? https://smartdevcon.eu/ | 10:49 |
| lamarque | could you include udisks in Mer by default? We need it for Plasma Active. | 10:52 |
| Sage | lamarque: You should push it to CE:MW:PlasmaActive project instead first if you need it. That has alraedy components that are not in Mer but are used by Plasma Active | 11:00 |
| lamarque | Sage: ok, i will do it. | 11:01 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: are you up for the RM meeting or shall we defer ? | 11:04 |
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| * lbt assumes we'll have this meeting another time and goes back to laying slabs... | 11:14 | |
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| phaeron | lbt: ping | 11:37 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, calendar had it as 2pm my time, was driving | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | but metro broke down so wont be home anyway | 12:22 |
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| lbt | phaeron: pong | 12:30 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - thought it was 12 local time | 12:30 |
| phaeron | lbt: it's ok was just a hiccup | 12:33 |
| lbt | OK | 12:34 |
| lbt | btw, is IMG being a bit odd ? | 12:34 |
| lbt | are there 2 workers? and one doesn't work quite right? | 12:34 |
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| phaeron | lbt: never touched it | 12:56 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: SDK questions lbt is good with :) | 13:24 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, I have read the email, and I am glad to see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2, I think that would be the final solution. | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it's going forward with mini-mer, 31mb compressed, 91mb uncompressed bootable base system with busybox | 13:27 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: cool, can I use this version in the future? and what file system is it to compressed 91mb to 31mb? | 13:28 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: this was just approximation with tar + gz | 13:29 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok. next release will use busybox? | 13:31 |
| sonach | or just a test? | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | right now it's research, but i hope to give the choice in one of the next releases | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | first you need a prototype to find all the problems, so | 13:32 |
| sonach | yes:) | 13:32 |
| sonach | another question. Can Mer support NTFS? | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | kernel issue mostly | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | and maybe one two packages | 13:34 |
| sonach | hmm, how to test it? (now I have a SATA-USB disk with a lot of test movies on it, some are larger than 4GB, so NTFS was used before) | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, enable it in your kernel and try to mount it | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | you might need a package called ntfsprogs | 13:36 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: OK:) | 13:37 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: and we solved the problem of Chinese characters. It is because we edit it in Windows by samba, then bad encoding:) internalization is always a boring thing to do. | 13:41 |
| sonach | will go to sleep and see you tomorrow:) | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | it is certainly a challenge, but well worth it for non western markets | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | see you, sleep well | 13:43 |
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| Sage | unresolvable: nothing provides /usr/bin/desktop-file-install | 14:32 |
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| * Sage ponders where is the bug | 14:32 | |
| Stskeeps | desktop-file-utils ? | 14:33 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_GE49c2fZk | 14:33 |
| w00t | finally got rotation working more as i want | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | will watch when i get off the sofa | 14:33 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes, but why doesn't obs find it now | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | obs'es fileprovdes isn't too stable? | 14:34 |
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| Sage | but why it fails now :) | 14:37 |
| Sage | it worked before AFAIK | 14:46 |
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| Sage | this is not so nice. | 14:56 |
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| Stskeeps | fileprovides: needed maybe | 14:58 |
| Sage | it should need that we had similar thing with the gtk-update-icon-cache thingy | 14:58 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: Provides fixes it so maybe something in rpm already that is broken? | 15:11 |
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| Sage | or maybe it just needs to be defined explicitly for each binary... | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | aybe | 15:15 |
| Sage | oh... darn. Bug in spectacle actually | 15:19 |
| Sage | that thing should be buildrequired but requires(post) or pre :D | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 15:20 |
| * Sage curses himself | 15:20 | |
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| Sage | in Requires those work fine and we have been using those as well | 15:20 |
| Sage | Mixed the two | 15:20 |
| Sage | err... no it users it in %install... | 15:22 |
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| Sage | ok, need to make another update for spectacle soon as that is really blocker in some cases. | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | OK | 15:24 |
| Sage | anyone noted anything else in spectacle 0.24? :) | 15:26 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo mdfe_ :) | 16:16 |
| mdfe_ | hi Stskeeps | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: locales missing was a bug that i wish noone else will ever have to solve, fedora's build-locale-archive is pure magic :) | 16:18 |
| mdfe_ | ouch, sounds like pain | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | i figured it out and was able to make a 31mb uncompressed mer image with systemd+busybox+glibc that way :P | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | even with en_US intact | 16:19 |
| mdfe_ | awesome!!! | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | err | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | 31 mb compressed i mean | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | and it booted on exo | 16:19 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 16:20 |
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| jbos_ | ping sage | 17:48 |
| jbos_ | I was playing with n950 + nemo. actually i tried to start xterm and not meegotouch home | 17:48 |
| jbos_ | ... but the screen stayed simply black... any clue? | 17:49 |
| jbos_ | so what i did was simply alter the meegotouch home desktop file | 17:50 |
| jbos_ | or stskeeps | 17:51 |
| jbos_ | :) maybe y know too :D | 17:51 |
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| Stskeeps | what compositor? | 17:53 |
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| smoku | where would I find platform sdk ks? | 18:00 |
| smoku | same place as sdk image? | 18:00 |
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| jbos_ | mcompositor | 18:09 |
| jbos_ | some X + xdg + mcompositor | 18:09 |
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| jbos_ | X is running | 18:11 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: yeah | 18:12 |
| jbos_ | when i start xterm over ssh it seems to start but no display in screen | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | sure it just didn't turn off the screen? :P | 18:13 |
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| jbos_ | screen gets turned off all the time, but on power key light gos on | 18:13 |
| jbos_ | so screen is off after 5 sek | 18:14 |
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| jbos_ | mhm what is kondemand? | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | kernel process | 18:19 |
| jbos_ | I ask since it uses 40-90% cpu | 18:19 |
| jbos_ | doesn't seem correct | 18:19 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: any idea why /etc/bash_completion.d/ isn't processed at login? | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: in sdk? | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps not a login shell | 18:20 |
| smoku | in standard build | 18:20 |
| smoku | i legged in on tty2 | 18:20 |
| smoku | logged | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: hmm | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | should be.. | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: keep in mind this bash is ancient-ish though | 18:21 |
| smoku | it works fine on SDK though :/ | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like something worth a bug | 18:22 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: ok... it _doesn't_ work on SDK too | 18:27 |
| smoku | I just did | 18:27 |
| smoku | $ grep completion ~/.*prof* | 18:27 |
| smoku | /home/smoku/.mersdk.profile:. /etc/bash_completion.d/git | 18:27 |
| smoku | my aging memory doesn't serve me well | 18:28 |
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| jbos_ | mmm so i altered it back to original | 18:29 |
| jbos_ | and it works fine. | 18:29 |
| jbos_ | so meegotouch home does some black magic here | 18:30 |
| * jbos_ is not happy | 18:30 | |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: btw, https://smartdevcon.eu/content/en/program-2.html | 18:36 |
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| jbos_ | um, wait, now it works. | 18:37 |
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| smoku | jbos_: voodoo | 18:44 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: roadtrip? | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: maybe - i'd encourage you to submit something on cordia as well :) | 18:45 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: I will think about | 18:56 |
| smoku | but I don't have a topic right at the top of my head :/ | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: still a month to go :) | 18:58 |
| smoku | are you presenting? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: yeah, though havent been deciding exactly about what | 18:59 |
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| Stskeeps | should probably do that soon, hmm | 19:00 |
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| smoku | BTW, I just pushed cordia-hd-i586.20120529 build to http://cordiahd.org/download/HD/ | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 19:06 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: if 'osc build' fails with [Errno 2] No such file or directory, what should I check? | 21:01 |
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