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| diorahman | Stskeeps: do we have other options other than flasher? | 01:52 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:41 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:47 |
| iekku | puuh, computer get up. waited yesterday 2h and it didn't | 04:48 |
| * Stskeeps has a todo to send out advisory board agenda | 04:49 | |
| Stskeeps | and i presume you have one for triage | 04:49 |
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| iekku | Stskeeps, 2! | 04:50 |
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| iekku | Stskeeps, i tried to do it yesterday, but my machine wanted to too some checkings and was doing it after 2 hours waiting. at that point i stopped waiting and went to sleep | 04:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 04:51 |
| iekku | huh, could sleep more. all muscles are hurting. | 04:53 |
| iekku | even the ones i didn't know i'm having :) | 04:54 |
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| Stskeeps | sounds like you had a entertaining outdoors sleep? :P | 04:54 |
| iekku | yeah, we had :) | 04:54 |
| iekku | the walking trip wasn't so bad, only 14km | 04:55 |
| iekku | but i had 14kg backbag | 04:55 |
| iekku | funny, i just realized that i was 14 when i did the same kind of trip previously | 04:56 |
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| iekku | or turned to 14 in that year | 04:56 |
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| E-P | Morning \o | 05:28 |
| Stskeeps | morn E-P :) | 05:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00520.html - and yes, i typoed iekku's nick :P | 05:30 |
| E-P | double sage :) | 05:31 |
| iekku | oh, that would be so cool! can we have also triple Stskeeps ? | 05:32 |
| Stskeeps | i wish | 05:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:32 |
| iekku | would help a lot | 05:32 |
| E-P | inded | 05:32 |
| E-P | +e | 05:32 |
| * Sage notices that Stskeeps's monday has started ;) | 05:36 | |
| iekku | :D | 05:37 |
| iekku | i need more coffee | 05:37 |
| Sage | "I don't dringk coffee" (tm) | 05:39 |
| Stskeeps | now, imagine how sage would be like on coffee.. | 05:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:40 |
| iekku | hahahha | 05:41 |
| iekku | started to laugh | 05:41 |
| Sage | ;) | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: kicked libnl and pacrunner | 05:42 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: libnl needs to be accepted with those 3 others, iw, crda, wpa_supplicant | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | did you have that localdep project? | 05:46 |
| Bostik | morning | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | morn Bostik :) | 05:46 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: yes it was in tspre only qt-mobility and qtwebkit rebuilt on i586 | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:55 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: huge url warning, but do take a look: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binary?arch=i586&filename=qt5-qtwidgets-5~5.0.0~alpha1-14.1.i586.rpm&package=qtbase&project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1&repository=Mer_Core_i586 | 06:48 |
| Bostik | dependency on libx11 nowhere to be seen after a very simple patch | 06:49 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, good | 06:58 |
| * Stskeeps has to head downtown for driving lessons, bbl | 06:59 | |
| iekku | have fun! | 07:03 |
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| iekku | Stskeeps, remember: you get more points from children than old women. | 07:03 |
| rcg1 | iekku: :) | 07:10 |
| rcg1 | Stskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amezAFdOpX0 go for it :) | 07:10 |
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| alterego | iekku: I thought old people got you more points, though maybe I'm wrong .. | 07:35 |
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| alterego | I guess kids are more of a challange because they move quicker, so you're probably right .. | 07:36 |
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| iekku | alterego, that's the point | 07:41 |
| alterego | Ah | 07:41 |
| iekku | when i was at driving school the teacher asked what to do if you see old lady going over the road | 07:41 |
| iekku | "let her go and wait for the children, you get more points" | 07:42 |
| iekku | teacher asked the rest of the student NOT to listen my answers | 07:42 |
| alterego | lol | 07:42 |
| lbt | morning all | 07:44 |
| lbt | iekku: I may not make triage today - doing things with concrete... | 07:44 |
| iekku | lbt, thanks for information. | 07:45 |
| iekku | hope there's other people around so we can have the triage | 07:45 |
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| E-P | lbt: concrete is nice to play with, I spend many hours on the last weekend to make base for a chimney | 08:12 |
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| dcthang | any planning to get html5 app running on Mer? | 08:21 |
| Bostik | eventually | 08:22 |
| Bostik | once we get the whole qt5 in, there will be qtwebkit | 08:22 |
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| Bostik | I just fixed one hurdle this morning, and eliminated a rogue libx11 dependency from the generated packages so we should be closer to the goal | 08:23 |
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| wangjf | Stskeeps: ping | 08:25 |
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| wangjf | Stskeeps: hi , I am a member of sonach's team, and encounter one problem related to fonts, | 08:25 |
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| wangjf | I put sunglobe.ttf under /usr/share/fonts, but the Chinese characters still be not be displayed properly, | 08:26 |
| wangjf | the Chinese characters are on qtmediahub, | 08:26 |
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| wangjf | Do I need any extra configuration to make it work? | 08:29 |
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| E-P | wangjf: Stskeeps is away at the moment, he will be back later | 08:29 |
| wangjf | OK, thanks, I will wait | 08:30 |
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| wangjf | Stskeeps: Question added: The Chinese fonts works well in qtwebkit, but won't work in qtmediahub, they use different fonts? | 08:58 |
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| jbos_ | I'm currently looking into ks files, why are y using mer-kickstarter to generate ks files from two other config files? | 10:22 |
| jbos_ | why not just wrting the ks file by hand? | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | jbos_: .ks'es don't inherit | 10:32 |
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| jbos_ | ok | 10:33 |
| jbos_ | I see, so I can have serveral vertical ks's generated and only need to point out the dif? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 10:34 |
| jbos_ | great :) | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | so you can have mer doing their job and providing kickstarter yamls and provide changes that inherit down | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | or hw adaptations | 10:34 |
| jbos_ | sound great | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | that's the theory at least.. | 10:34 |
| jbos_ | :D | 10:34 |
| jbos_ | ok so in case I want to generate a nemo ks file from yaml | 10:35 |
| jbos_ | I use what i get from gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900 ? | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but ask sage | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | i think i'll have to declare myself AWOL today, this tooth pain is a bit heavy | 10:36 |
| jbos_ | uch, good luck on that | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | iekku: i'll be absent for triage, but 349 needs to be a release blocker, 352 high, 353 needs to be normal as it may be a blocker to sharing x86 adaptation with tizen | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | simply can't think straight at the moment | 10:45 |
| iekku | ok, i will add those. thanks | 10:45 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, let's see how the triage goes, you and lbt can't come | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | and for nemo 179 will be sorted if we sync with tizen ivi as it drops grubby and mkinitrd | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 10:47 |
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| Sage | jbos_: yes | 10:50 |
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| jbos_ | if i want to build nemo ks files, i simply use the imageconfig from above + your kickstarter? | 10:53 |
| jbos_ | or is mer-kickstarter the same to yours? | 10:53 |
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| iekku | mer bug triage starting soon | 10:59 |
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| jbos_ | sage, seems to work as I would expect it to :) | 11:13 |
| Sage | jbos_: yes, mer-kickstarter should have all my changes also | 11:14 |
| Sage | haven't checked that though but it should :) | 11:14 |
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| jbos_ | mhm is there a way to avoid n950 to go sleep an loose network (usb) | 12:50 |
| Sage | jbos_: .. | 12:50 |
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| Sage | goes to sleep and looses usb? | 12:50 |
| jbos_ | yep | 12:50 |
| Sage | o_0 | 12:51 |
| jbos_ | also wireless is bit jumpy | 12:51 |
| jbos_ | ok now it works, sleep + usb | 12:52 |
| jbos_ | mh | 12:52 |
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| jbos_ | oh my fault... usb wasn't fully in the slot... ty | 12:57 |
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| rcg1 | how do i assign a bug to myself? | 14:31 |
| rcg1 | do i use my e-mail address or my username? | 14:31 |
| rcg1 | nvm | 14:33 |
| rcg1 | email worked | 14:33 |
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| Stskeeps | .. okay, a bit more sanen ow | 16:49 |
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| Stskeeps | evening vgrade | 17:05 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, evening | 17:08 |
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| Stskeeps | had a good work day? i practically lost mine due to some tooth problems :P | 17:09 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, good thanks, some more Jenkins config | 17:10 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: brewing on a blog post, http://pastie.org/3983852 | 17:14 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, an issue for the connected car as well. | 17:19 |
| CosmoHill | woo | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: yup | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: how many years do you expect to keep a car? | 17:20 |
| vgrade | my history 10 years, 6 years and current 5 years so far | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:21 |
| CosmoHill | I've had mine 15 years so ar | 17:21 |
| vgrade | jlr are planning the concept of a refresh which dealers fit, rather like the aftermarket head units but from the OEM | 17:22 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: what day your were flying to hel? | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: 14th | 17:22 |
| timoph | hmmh | 17:22 |
| * timoph ponders about doing a road trip to hel then | 17:23 | |
| Stskeeps | not going to in vicinity of texrat timewise, if that's what you're wondering | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | as i land like 12 | 17:23 |
| timoph | ah | 17:23 |
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| timoph | btw, anyone have scratchbox and mer platform sdk in the same machine? | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | sb1 ? | 17:36 |
| timoph | yep | 17:36 |
| timoph | wondering if they play nice together | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | not really | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | moment | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#Co-existing_with_Scratchbox | 17:37 |
| timoph | I'll just setup another vm for sb1 | 17:38 |
| timoph | easier | 17:38 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: is anyone working on Application SDK, or is it out of Mer scope? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, for qt side of things we were thinking to sort of follow what was coming out of qtonpi | 18:47 |
| timoph | there was talk about doing it but can't remember what blocks it currently. something related to passing the rootfs to qtcreator | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | and yeah, that we can't reliably indicate sysroots | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | the three-step rocket was platform sdk, then sb2 sdk (for cross ability) and then app sdk somehow | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | it hasn't been high on the list though as we've had worse problems :) | 18:48 |
| smoku | IC | 18:49 |
| timoph | although you can run qtcreator inside the platform sdk :) | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that does work | 18:49 |
| smoku | I'm looking for an env to work on Cordia apps | 18:49 |
| smoku | looks like I need to assemble one myself :) | 18:50 |
| smoku | any pointers? | 18:50 |
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| Stskeeps | depends on what you want to do, i presume it's gtk-vala'ish? | 18:51 |
| timoph | I'd start by experimenting how can be done with the platform sdk | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, what timoph said | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | as gtk apps aren't traditionally cross compiled, platform sdk + sb2 is probably the easiest | 18:52 |
| timoph | yep | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: our platform sdk is just a .ks, so extend it at will | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | and bother lbt when it doesn't work for you as a vendor, as it's supposed to :P\ | 18:52 |
| smoku | yes. I'm currently experimenting with separate instance of platform SDK | 18:53 |
| smoku | but I have some weird issues starting user instance of dbus :/ | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | is dbus-x11 installed? | 18:54 |
| * lbt wanders by between cement mixer loads... | 18:55 | |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Tools | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | shh, back to building the secret Mer lair | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 18:56 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: nope. dbus-x11 is not installed | 18:56 |
| lbt | *g* | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: that might cause some problems | 18:57 |
| lbt | I need to do some tests on the new sb2 rules too | 18:57 |
| lbt | bbiab | 18:57 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: should running uxlaunch setup the session etc? | 18:57 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, but running uxlaunch in platform sdk is bad news | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | consider launching a vm instead | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | it's x86 after all | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | and we have llvmpipe | 18:59 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: why it may be a problem? if there are any packages installed that pulled it in as a dependency, it shouldn't be needed, is is? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, as a start, it starts -xorg- | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:59 |
| smoku | i have a separate Xephyr running in the host machine | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | still, it starts xorg to my knowledge | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | though i suppose it doesn't strictly have to | 19:00 |
| smoku | and I would like to stick to the chroot approach instead of separate machine | 19:00 |
| smoku | i appreciate the shared $HOME | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | okay, just be aware that it may chew your $HOME for lunch -- and in my belief, the sb1 SDK for maemo had so many hacks to get that scenario to work that it wasn't worth it | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | hence the VM work they did with full emulation | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | a deployment-to-vm cycle might work better, IMHO, but it's up to yo | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | u | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | or even p9fs or how it was | 19:02 |
| smoku | well... if a separate machine is the only way to go, i would rather install it on a bare metal, than vm... same level of PITA ;-) | 19:02 |
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| Stskeeps | also a possibility | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | from mer pov we're working with remote device usually, even in testrunner | 19:03 |
| ccssnet | Sleepy_Coder: i see you all over freenode | 19:04 |
| * ccssnet waves | 19:04 | |
| Sleepy_Coder | :D | 19:04 |
| Sleepy_Coder | I tend to blather on in every channel :3 | 19:04 |
| ccssnet | i just found mer project last night :) | 19:05 |
| Sleepy_Coder | A friend gave me a sticker so I had to get involved :p | 19:05 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: that's deployment. the platform SDK is great for. :-) | 19:05 |
| ccssnet | ahh | 19:05 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: but how do you do development? | 19:05 |
| ccssnet | i have to ask though. why qt? | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: we don't force you to use qt | 19:06 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: with standard modify-build-test loop | 19:06 |
| ccssnet | o? | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: mer's just a puzzle piece, mangle it like you want - smoku here uses mer with GTK+ | 19:06 |
| ccssnet | o interesting | 19:07 |
| ccssnet | so any possibility to see it with fltk or some smaller lighter toolkit? | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: we just deliver a useful mobile core, it's up to you how you want to use it | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | at risk of keeping both pieces when it breaks | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | sure, could even put EFL on top | 19:07 |
| ccssnet | ah nice. ill dig into it soon, got alot going on | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | we just use qt as a good way to validate and optimize :) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | and some even advocate qt outside mer core | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: hmm, probably the worst person to ask about this, but i would probably center around sb2 on top of a image similar to my target | 19:08 |
| ccssnet | well i cant say my pc is without qt... but ideally it would be O:-) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | sure, up to you | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | plasma active uses mer with qt, but without connman for example | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | instead using networkmanager | 19:09 |
| ccssnet | hmm | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | for this exact reason we don't provide a common app story | 19:09 |
| ccssnet | ok. anyone working on mer with an open pandora hand held? | 19:09 |
| ccssnet | i got one in my hands now. | 19:09 |
| smoku | uxlaunch does not like me too | 19:10 |
| smoku | [10.793961] [3931] Failed to write oom_core_dj score file: /proc/3952/oom_score_adj | 19:10 |
| smoku | Killed | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: thought as much | 19:10 |
| Sleepy_Coder | that looks sexy :o | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: should be easy to get working.. | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: got a 2.6.32 or above kernel? | 19:10 |
| ccssnet | cool ill try it soon enough. next week or so | 19:10 |
| Sleepy_Coder | ccssnet: looks like a Nintendo DS almost :D | 19:11 |
| ccssnet | ya | 19:11 |
| Sleepy_Coder | hadn't seen that before | 19:11 |
| ccssnet | dont buy a used one, buy a new one | 19:11 |
| ccssnet | used ones are first gen and have 256mb ram. new ones have 512mb ram | 19:11 |
| ccssnet | i bought a used one haha | 19:11 |
| * Sleepy_Coder likes the dual sd card slot | 19:11 | |
| ccssnet | i dislike it | 19:12 |
| Sleepy_Coder | why so? | 19:12 |
| ccssnet | i would rather it had a single microsd slot, with a pcie ssd | 19:12 |
| ccssnet | SD cards are not really fast. nor do they last | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: in mer, hw adaptation is seperate from the project, so you'd have to do your own hw adaptation project for it | 19:12 |
| Sleepy_Coder | hmm | 19:12 |
| Sleepy_Coder | that would be nice | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | start by getting mer platform SDK and make one of our armv7l images | 19:13 |
| ccssnet | Stskeeps: ya i gathered that. sorry for off topic | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: ah, it's sortof on topic, it's just that we keep it 'seperate' so we don't have fights over it ;) | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | and everybody is equal when it comes to core | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | install rootfs on a sd, add kernel and modules, try to boot, rinse and repeat.. | 19:13 |
| ccssnet | ya | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: johnx had meego arm booting on openpandora | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | so it should be possible for mer too | 19:15 |
| ccssnet | Sleepy_Coder: my nephew thought it was a nintendo DS and looked at me funny. (im 28) why you playing games? he asked me | 19:15 |
| ccssnet | haha | 19:15 |
| ccssnet | ok | 19:16 |
| ccssnet | maemo, meego, now mer | 19:16 |
| ccssnet | hehe | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. well | 19:17 |
| ccssnet | next it will just me M | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | maemo, mer, meego, now mer again.. | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:17 |
| ccssnet | s/me/be/ | 19:17 |
| ccssnet | ah | 19:17 |
| tadzik | ccssnet | next it will just me M | 19:17 |
| tadzik | heh. In Perl we have Moose, Mouse, Moo and finally Mo | 19:17 |
| ccssnet | ugh | 19:18 |
| tadzik | and probably M too already | 19:18 |
| tadzik | people and their ideas | 19:18 |
| Sleepy_Coder | ccssnet: The only game console kids will respect any adult playing is the SNES ;p It's just instinct. | 19:18 |
| ccssnet | haha | 19:19 |
| ccssnet | common, n64 was ok also | 19:19 |
| Sleepy_Coder | Mario Kart 64 was <3 ANd Banjo Kazooie :D | 19:20 |
| ccssnet | ya | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: what kind of toolkit would you run on there, out of curiousity? | 19:20 |
| ccssnet | so is mer an entire os on its own? | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: we're a core, couple it with a hardware adaptation, and a ui and you have a potential 'product' | 19:22 |
| ccssnet | o toolkit wise, fltk ideally. i like its size. but gtk+ realisticly if i want to recycle prior codded apps | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: ie, we're not really attempting to package the kitchen sink, but create a common base for vendors (this includes hackers!) to re-use | 19:22 |
| ccssnet | ya | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | so we're ~340 source packages that yield a core for mobile devices | 19:22 |
| ccssnet | well, relivant, i am working on a custom os myself. so idk. | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | there's a lot of small companies who can do really big things, but maintaining their own OS core themselves is a hassle | 19:23 |
| ccssnet | but one of the things my os currently lacks is a touch ui and related drivers/scripting | 19:23 |
| ccssnet | so this mer project cought my attention | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | security updates, image creators, build systems, sdks.. | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | so, well, why not Mer :) | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | so you can focus on the things that's actually fun to do | 19:24 |
| ccssnet | ya well, you cant pitch mer to a programmer :) | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | we're pitching to vendors intentionally | 19:24 |
| ccssnet | my resume includes "board support packages", and the word toolchain | 19:24 |
| ccssnet | so yea | 19:24 |
| ccssnet | yea im not a vendor | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | which is hardware adaptation projects, UI projects, device programs, or the home hacker at home who doesn't want to reinvent the wheel to hack a device | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | (vendors) | 19:25 |
| ccssnet | although, ive had quite a few interviews lately related to linux / touch devices | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | so we're a bit different :) | 19:26 |
| ccssnet | i hope to hear from one of those tommorow. | 19:26 |
| ccssnet | yea, so mer seems to be similar to linaro in strategy atm | 19:26 |
| ccssnet | based on this convo ^ | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | .. naah | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | linaro is an effort to improve arm in linux, simple as that | 19:27 |
| ccssnet | eh maybe, but its pitching to corporates | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | i love their work | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | mer just plays a different game, and we include a lot of their deliverables | 19:28 |
| ccssnet | ah | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | linaro gcc, qemu, vendors re-use hardware adaptations | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | and we care about intel atom, generic x86, mips, armv6 as well | 19:28 |
| ccssnet | nice | 19:28 |
| ccssnet | id like to see better mips support myself | 19:29 |
| ccssnet | particularly broadcom anything | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | i'd really like somebody to validate our mips port properly | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | it runs in emulator but .. on hw? | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:29 |
| ccssnet | well i got a mips router. not so usefull for this i assume | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | prolly not, this is more of the ui facing kind of stack | 19:29 |
| ccssnet | currently has openwrt on it | 19:30 |
| ccssnet | well a hackish openwrt | 19:30 |
| ccssnet | reused propreitary drivers and code from stock firmware. so its more like frankenwrt | 19:30 |
| ccssnet | fucking broadcom | 19:31 |
| ccssnet | anyway | 19:31 |
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| Stskeeps | we are also more than just code, we're build systems, image creators, QA tools, etc | 19:31 |
| ccssnet | hmm. is Mer a company? | 19:32 |
| ccssnet | or just a loose orginization? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | nop, want to see the governance? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Governance | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | we're set up as a not-for-profit last i saw | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | or however that was called in the UK | 19:33 |
| ccssnet | hmm interesting | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | kinda informal but we do have advisory board meetings every 14 days | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | i'm the current project architect | 19:34 |
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| ccssnet | nice | 19:34 |
| ccssnet | whats the mer build system based on? | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | deep down we're RPM packages, but we use Open Build Service as a build farm | 19:35 |
| ccssnet | eek | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | it works | 19:35 |
| * ccssnet pokes rpm with a stick | 19:35 | |
| Stskeeps | we decided to use rpm and people are more than welcome to copy our content and do their own deb stack | 19:35 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | or whatever | 19:35 |
| ccssnet | ya. i guess | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | i think life is too short for packaging discussions :) | 19:36 |
| ccssnet | life is short yes | 19:36 |
| * ccssnet glances at his own age 28 | 19:36 | |
| Stskeeps | heh, 27 here ;) | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | either way, try out mer platform sdk, make a image for armv7l, see if you like it | 19:37 |
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| Stskeeps | if you don't, well so it goes :) | 19:38 |
| ccssnet | yea ill try it soon enough | 19:38 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: got it | 19:40 |
| smoku | eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax` | 19:41 |
| smoku | did the trick | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | ah cool | 19:41 |
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| ccssnet | so i assume mer needs rpm installed? | 19:46 |
| ccssnet | for the sdk | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | ccssnet: nop, it's a chroot | 19:46 |
| ccssnet | im currently typing from trisquel (debian) | 19:47 |
| ccssnet | ok | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | we intentionally do it like that as we can't keep up with everything all distros do :P | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | so it's mer itself you use for sdk | 19:47 |
| ccssnet | yea makes sense | 19:47 |
| ccssnet | thats what im doing with my os also. chroot | 19:47 |
| ccssnet | ok downloading now | 19:47 |
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| ccssnet | Cloning into open-build-service... | 19:56 |
| ccssnet | ill check out obs also | 19:56 |
| ccssnet | obs uses flash vids? | 19:58 |
| ccssnet | noobs of the open source world... | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | err.. no, but peek around at https://build.pub.meego.com for instance | 20:02 |
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| Stskeeps | for day-to-day work we mostly do it in sdk thoug | 20:02 |
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| Stskeeps | and you probably just did a massive faux pas in #opensuse-buildservice there :) | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | trust me on this, you don't want to try to run OBS on anything other than opensuse as bottom | 20:03 |
| ccssnet | yea i just rambled in their channel | 20:03 |
| ccssnet | lol | 20:03 |
| ccssnet | hmm well build system is no issue, my workstation is 6 core, 16gb ram, 380gb space for source/whatever chroots | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | right, time for sleep though | 20:04 |
| ccssnet | ok ttyl | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 20:04 |
| smoku | doh... Fedora's Xephyr does not like fremantle's clutter. and I'm not really eager to port fremantle/meego patches :/ | 20:05 |
| Sc0rpius | I had a problem like that | 20:08 |
| Sc0rpius | the Xephyr of the latest Ubuntu didn't work right | 20:08 |
| Sc0rpius | what I did was to extract the Xephyr binary from Ubuntu 10.x and use that | 20:08 |
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| smoku | and Mer's Xephyr is segfaulting ;-) | 20:22 |
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| smoku | xinit -- :2 -depth 16 | 20:27 |
| smoku | works great :D | 20:27 |
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