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Stskeeps | morn | 04:29 |
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iekku_ | morning | 04:43 |
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Stskeeps | Bostik: we need a better spec file name for qtwebkit i think | 05:02 |
Stskeeps | this will for sure clash with qt4's :) | 05:02 |
Bostik | name of the spec file itself only? | 05:06 |
Stskeeps | yeah, it's not good we have two qtwebkit's | 05:07 |
Bostik | right | 05:08 |
Stskeeps | as i assume we can't use same source code base for both qt4 and qt5 | 05:09 |
Bostik | true enough | 05:09 |
Bostik | done, uploading changes | 05:11 |
* Stskeeps is staging qtxmlpatterns,qtgraphicseffects, etc | 05:12 | |
Bostik | COBS is having minor fits, it seems since my osc commit batches time out | 05:15 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:16 |
Sage | Is this normal when path of binary changes: http://pastie.org/3953855 ? | 05:20 |
Sage | or has sdk problem with that? | 05:20 |
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Sage | lbt: ^ | 05:20 |
Sc0rpius | hash -r | 05:24 |
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Sc0rpius | to flush the path cache for bash | 05:24 |
Stskeeps | Bostik: new tech btw, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/sb2-b1-obs-victory.txt - ability to properly install both host and target with RPMs, and do full cross compilation if wanted, and ARM-like environment with SB2 too | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | Bostik: so if you have packages that can be fully cross compiled that's possible | 05:25 |
Sc0rpius | SB2 uses Xephyr as well? | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | Sc0rpius: nah, we don't use xephyr | 05:25 |
Stskeeps | sb2 is just used as a cross compilation engine mostly | 05:25 |
Sc0rpius | how do you get a glimpse of the GUI then? | 05:25 |
Sc0rpius | you test on the device? | 05:26 |
Stskeeps | boot the x86 version in a VM? :) | 05:26 |
Sc0rpius | hmmm | 05:26 |
Stskeeps | we have llvmpipe, some claim 60fps | 05:26 |
Bostik | Stskeeps: I don't honestly know if my qt5 packages qualify but I can certainly enjoy the effects of eg. mesa builds going through that | 05:28 |
Stskeeps | Bostik: :nod: | 05:28 |
Bostik | they _should_ qualify, but I've long since stopped making any assumptions about how qt does anything ;) | 05:28 |
Stskeeps | Bostik: my hope is to make it possible to do really really interesting cores using this.. like non-self-hosted cores | 05:28 |
Stskeeps | so we can do systems of very small size | 05:28 |
Bostik | had to think a bit but I may understand what you're after, and I feel conflicted about it | 05:38 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:39 |
Bostik | smaller build environments, sure, but knowing how developers (ab)use any SDK environments they get their hands on, there's going to be some really strange bugs due to mixed environments | 05:39 |
Stskeeps | the other idea is to be able to selectively drop down to cross compile only, or for that matter, sb2 only | 05:39 |
Stskeeps | for packages | 05:39 |
Stskeeps | so for qt we could cross compile cleanly | 05:40 |
Stskeeps | but let's see how it pans out | 05:40 |
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Sage | almost there only one missing :) | 06:51 |
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lbt | morning all | 07:43 |
* lbt has coffee -> work .... l8r | 07:46 | |
X-Fade | coffee work, hmmm? Own plantation? :) | 07:46 |
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slaine | morning you blokes | 08:31 |
Stskeeps | morn slaine o/ | 08:31 |
slaine | I got very little sleep and am some what giddy this morning | 08:32 |
Bostik | Stskeeps: changed recipe files to qtwebkit5.{spec,changes}; go wild | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | Bostik: thanks | 08:32 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: when OBS builds my package, it reports: cp: cannot stat `test': No such file or directory. In my spec file, there is a line: cp test /lib/modules. but the file 'test' is there. | 09:23 |
Stskeeps | sonach: before that in the .spec file, echo $PWD; ls -l test | 09:23 |
slaine | iekku_: congrats | 09:25 |
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sonach | Stskeeps: ok, I am trying. it takes several minutes to rebuild the package although the package is very simple:) | 09:29 |
Stskeeps | sonach: yeah, this may have to deal with how your builder is set up | 09:29 |
Stskeeps | sonach: i have it down to 50secs for many | 09:29 |
sonach | Stskeeps: cool, how to achieve this? is there any guidance on mer wiki? | 09:30 |
sonach | Stskeeps: the '$PWD' outputs '/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD'. | 09:30 |
Stskeeps | sonach: ok, and what phase are you in, %build , %install ? | 09:31 |
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Stskeeps | sonach: i use tmpfs, so building with disk within the ram | 09:31 |
sonach | Stskeeps: in %build, there is nothing, because 'test' is prebuilt. and under %install, there is just a 'cp' command, | 09:32 |
sonach | I just put 'test' in testrpm-0.1 directory, and tar it to testrpm-0.1.tar.gz, | 09:32 |
Stskeeps | ok | 09:32 |
Stskeeps | can i see the .spec file please? | 09:32 |
sonach | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3954646 | 09:33 |
sonach | Now I want to put hi3716m's prebuilt binaries to rpms , and make image automatically, | 09:33 |
Stskeeps | sonach: yes, makes sense | 09:34 |
Stskeeps | moment | 09:34 |
sonach | ok | 09:34 |
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Stskeeps | sonach: first off, in %prep section, you need to unpack the tar.gz - this is done with %setup -q -n %{name}-%{version} normally | 09:35 |
Stskeeps | see http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/gzip.git;a=blob;f=gzip.spec;h=5ad789f3026075a83ec31fd06c0cf160e9f77a9d;hb=HEAD#l58 | 09:35 |
Stskeeps | second, what you're installing needs to go inside %{buildroot}, so mkdir -p %{buildroot}/lib/modules | 09:36 |
Stskeeps | and cp test.txt %{buildroot}/lib/modules | 09:37 |
Stskeeps | the RPM build does not run as root, so you cannot copy into /lib/modules | 09:37 |
Bostik | never, ever, EVER try to install anything into system paths | 09:37 |
Stskeeps | well you can try but it won't work | 09:37 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:37 |
* Bostik shudders at all the qt DESTDIR abuses he's fixed... | 09:37 | |
sonach | Stskeeps: 'the RPM build does not run as root, so you cannot copy into /lib/modules', how to solve this? Because I want to copy hi3716m's ko files into /lib/modules, | 09:38 |
Stskeeps | sonach: sure, in the package, %{buildroot}/ is the root of the file system | 09:39 |
sonach | ok, I see, to %{buildroot}/lib/modules, | 09:39 |
Stskeeps | sonach: ie, installing into %{buildroot}/lib/modules will, when you install the rpm, make it land in /lib/modules | 09:39 |
Bostik | sonach: you're building a package, so install into ‰{buildroot}/lib/modules, which then ends up in .rpm which places the file to the system's /lib/modules | 09:40 |
iekku_ | slaine, :) | 09:43 |
slaine | iekku_: well earned too | 09:44 |
iekku_ | slaine, haven't done enough | 09:45 |
iekku_ | slaine, but working on it :) | 09:45 |
Sage | E-P: almost there :) | 09:48 |
sonach | Stskeeps: Bostik: thank you, it works:) | 09:48 |
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E-P | Sage: heh, great! | 09:49 |
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iekku_ | it's damn hard to consentrate on work, it's summer outside | 09:53 |
Sage | iekku_: not nerd enouhg? ;) | 09:54 |
iekku_ | Sage, no :( | 09:55 |
iekku_ | it would help if i couldn't see outside | 09:55 |
Sage | E-P: close but still needs work http://pastie.org/3954739 At least it installs all deps already with single package and config as well | 09:59 |
Sage | MerSDK bash-3.2$ cat /etc/tdriver/tdriver_parameters.xml | 10:00 |
Sage | MerSDK bash-3.2$ | 10:00 |
Sage | hmmp... might be the issue :D | 10:00 |
E-P | most likely :) | 10:01 |
Sage | \o/ it works \o/ | 10:02 |
E-P | wuhuu | 10:04 |
E-P | one important tool in mer then! | 10:05 |
Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting | 10:05 |
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Sage | So for host: testability-driver-host and for device: qttas-server | 10:07 |
E-P | the qttas-server is for qt4, qt5 might require some changes | 10:07 |
Sage | :nod: | 10:08 |
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* Sage thinks now it is time to rest a bit | 10:16 | |
Sage | maybe I should go jogging or something ;) | 10:16 |
iekku_ | Sage, what???? | 10:16 |
iekku_ | why i'm iekku_ ? | 10:17 |
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iekku | :X | 10:17 |
Sage | iekku: The hard work is done so time to take it a bit easier, right? So jogging comes to my mind at first as the weather is so nice ;) | 10:18 |
iekku | :) | 10:19 |
Sage | My brains can rest etc. ;) | 10:19 |
iekku | i promissed walk in the forest after workday is done | 10:19 |
iekku | might be good idea to take it now and continue working after that | 10:19 |
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Sage | anyone managed to run x application from mer sdk? | 10:52 |
Sage | if so has "export DISPLAY=:0" been enough? | 10:53 |
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timoph | Sage: I ran qt-creator from it. can't remember if I did su - mer before running it though | 11:07 |
Sage | user mer doesn't exist... | 11:08 |
timoph | hmmh | 11:08 |
* timoph checks | 11:08 | |
Sage | it seems that I can't su anything inside sdk, sudo works though | 11:09 |
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timoph | I don't need to set DISPLAY | 11:14 |
timoph | installed qtcreator to the sdk just ran it | 11:14 |
timoph | needed to install fonts though | 11:14 |
Sage | hmmp | 11:14 |
Sage | what distro? | 11:15 |
timoph | ubuntu 12.04 | 11:15 |
Sage | ps aux | grep Xorg | 11:15 |
timoph | timoph 2519 0.0 0.0 2508 528 pts/2 S+ 11:15 0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg | 11:15 |
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Sage | err... | 11:16 |
Sage | maybe just X ? | 11:16 |
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Sage | on my opensuse 12.1: /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -logverbose 7 -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-g4vqPB/database -nolisten tcp vt7 | 11:16 |
Sage | I | 11:16 |
timoph | timoph 2519 0.0 0.0 2508 528 pts/2 S+ 11:15 0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg | 11:16 |
Sage | I'm pondering if tha -auth has something to do with it | 11:16 |
timoph | err | 11:16 |
timoph | root 1126 5.8 6.1 122844 62588 tty7 Ss+ 11:09 0:23 /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch | 11:17 |
timoph | selinux? | 11:17 |
Sage | not in opensuse | 11:17 |
Sage | timoph: from which repo did you install qt-creator? | 11:18 |
timoph | my home project | 11:18 |
Sage | maybe it has some dep that I'm missing | 11:18 |
timoph | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/timoph/Mer_Core_i586/ | 11:18 |
Sage | hmmp. no. only qt deps there: libqtdeclarative4 libqtdesigner4 libqthelp4 libqtscript4 libqtsql4-sqlite libqtsvg4 libqtxmlpatterns4 qt-creator | 11:21 |
Sage | well lets see if that starts | 11:21 |
slaine | You can also export XAUTHORITY=/var/run…. | 11:22 |
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Sage | well, the thing with that is that mer sdk doesn't mount that to the sdk :) | 11:22 |
Sage | so can't do that I guess | 11:22 |
slaine | hmm, good point | 11:22 |
Sage | ah, parentroot is there maybe that would do | 11:23 |
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Sage | odoesnt help | 11:25 |
Sage | :( | 11:25 |
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Sage | http://pastie.org/3955099 | 11:32 |
Sage | timoph: could you check what does your xauth list say inside sdk | 11:32 |
Sage | slaine: but you are right, it is probably the xauth thing that is wrong here | 11:33 |
timoph | hmm. xauth: command not found | 11:34 |
Sage | need to install it first :) | 11:34 |
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Sage | timoph: zypper isntall xorg-x11-xauth | 11:35 |
Sage | I can access the xauth database on host side but not inside the sdk | 11:35 |
timoph | it's the same on sdk and on host (...MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1...) | 11:36 |
Sage | no actually I can | 11:36 |
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timoph | although I haven't upgraded to the latest sdk so there could be regression | 11:37 |
Sage | well I have some updates in queue a well | 11:37 |
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Sage | ok, so what else could be there. After setting XAUTHORITY to same (with /parentroot/) I have same xauth list at least | 11:38 |
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slaine | I notice that libgcrypt failed to rebuild | 13:24 |
slaine | for my batch rebuild | 13:24 |
Stskeeps | what error? | 13:28 |
slaine | just looking now | 13:28 |
slaine | 1 test failed out of 21 | 13:28 |
slaine | and then | 13:28 |
slaine | line 17: prereq is deprecated: PreReq: /sbin/install-info | 13:28 |
Sage | ... | 13:29 |
Sage | that is deprecated rpm option, does mer has that? | 13:29 |
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Sage | Should be Requires(pre) IIRC | 13:29 |
Stskeeps | slaine: try a rebuild | 13:29 |
slaine | It has PreReq in there | 13:30 |
Sage | it shouldn't fail though as we don't have such check.. | 13:30 |
slaine | http://pastebin.com/hn8Kx3gh | 13:30 |
slaine | Error log | 13:31 |
slaine | http://pastebin.com/SX9jLfWj | 13:31 |
slaine | (partial) | 13:31 |
Sage | ah, doesn't relate to the actual error | 13:33 |
Sage | slaine: the error is more up in that one. one of the tests failed | 13:34 |
slaine | Still, the spec file should be updated | 13:34 |
Sage | slaine: true | 13:34 |
slaine | Basic failed | 13:34 |
Sage | Stskeeps: we might want to put rpmlint fail on that kind of deprecated things. | 13:34 |
slaine | Also, OBS WebUI seems to have lost the ability to issue a rebuild of a package, or I'm blind | 13:35 |
Sage | slaine: give it a moment and check that you have logged in. It is in the error log page. | 13:35 |
slaine | Sage, ah, wasn't logged in, silly me | 13:36 |
slaine | edited the spec file in my my obs and triggered a rebuild, see how we get on | 13:37 |
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slaine | reimported the libgcrypt package and rebuilt | 13:43 |
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slaine | seems to be working now | 13:43 |
slaine | cool, all architectures I imported are rebuilt | 13:48 |
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Sage | this X apps not working from sdk for me is starting to get annoying. | 13:53 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: ping | 13:57 |
Stskeeps | lbt: did you push to release-tools 2 hours ago? | 13:58 |
lbt | yes | 14:00 |
w00t | matrixx: ping | 14:00 |
lbt | Stskeeps: I pushed to a branch called "on-monster" | 14:00 |
Stskeeps | lbt: ok, just checking | 14:01 |
lbt | mainly so I can pull it locally and work on it | 14:01 |
Stskeeps | lbt: when i notice anything that looks remotely suspicious about packages-git i tell, for security's sake :P | 14:01 |
lbt | good idea :) | 14:01 |
lbt | nb I rebased to your master | 14:01 |
matrixx | w00t: pong | 14:01 |
lbt | so at some point I'll push that for review | 14:01 |
lbt | I'm making it independent of Mer:Core | 14:02 |
lbt | so I can use it all for Tools and maybe even Nemo | 14:02 |
w00t | matrixx: so, wondering how much you've done your own experimentation with QtGraphicalEffects :) as I have a bit of a problem | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | lbt: makes sense | 14:02 |
Sage | lbt: any ideas what could be wrong with my Mer SDK and that I can't run X apps when timoph can run those fine :/ | 14:03 |
Sage | Must be something related to either SDK version or Host OS. | 14:04 |
matrixx | w00t: actually not more than I did before FOSDEM, have had some other projects going on taking all time :/ | 14:04 |
w00t | matrixx: ah.. | 14:04 |
lbt | Sage: X talks via shared memory or tcp iirc | 14:04 |
lbt | so if you have nolisten-tcp that could block a fallback | 14:05 |
Sage | lbt: any idea how to check? | 14:09 |
lbt | I'm just trying on my machine - I permit tcp though | 14:09 |
lbt | netstat -lnp on host | 14:09 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ps aux| grep X | 14:09 |
lbt | netstat -lnp | grep X | 14:10 |
Sage | well at least cmdline doesn't show nolisten | 14:10 |
Sage | http://pastie.org/3955768 | 14:10 |
lbt | same here | 14:11 |
Stskeeps | Sage: opensuse firewall on? | 14:11 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:11 |
Sage | grr | 14:12 |
Stskeeps | article in danish tech newspaper talking about tizen being a further-developed version of meego | 14:13 |
* Stskeeps tries to resist commenting | 14:13 | |
Stskeeps | (tizen ivi excepted, of course) | 14:13 |
lbt | give in to temptation | 14:14 |
Sage | firewall doesn't seem to have effect | 14:14 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ls -l /tmp/.X11* | 14:14 |
Sage | So the X apps work for everyone else than me? :) | 14:14 |
Sage | host or sdk? | 14:14 |
Stskeeps | both | 14:14 |
Sage | on host only /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 on sdk nothing | 14:15 |
lbt | what X apps are there in core? | 14:15 |
lbt | anything ? | 14:15 |
Stskeeps | lbt: testrunner? xterm? | 14:16 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:16 |
Sage | lbt: xhost? | 14:16 |
Sage | even xhost doesn't work for me | 14:16 |
lbt | what package? | 14:16 |
Sage | xorg-x11-utils-xhost | 14:17 |
Sage | Stskeeps: o_0 is xterm in core? | 14:18 |
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Sage | I though it wasn't there | 14:18 |
lbt | I thought zypper search was fixed :/ | 14:19 |
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lbt | Sage: try DISPLAY=localhost:0 | 14:20 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: ok, it may not be.. | 14:22 |
Sage | http://pastie.org/3955807 no :/ | 14:22 |
Stskeeps | Sage: http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/12524.html | 14:23 |
lbt | MerSDK david:~ > xhost | 14:24 |
lbt | access control disabled, clients can connect from any host | 14:24 |
Sage | lbt: well, that is what is says on my Host, but on SDK it says can't connect | 14:25 |
Sage | lbt: what host are you running sdk on? | 14:25 |
lbt | debian | 14:25 |
lbt | strace is short | 14:25 |
Sage | so debian and ubuntu works :) | 14:26 |
lbt | getpeername(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}, [16]) = 0 | 14:26 |
lbt | do you have tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - | 14:26 |
lbt | in netstat -lnp | grep 6000 on host | 14:27 |
Sage | no | 14:27 |
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lbt | hmm | 14:28 |
lbt | so I suspect nolisten :) | 14:28 |
lbt | could be in the confi | 14:28 |
lbt | g | 14:28 |
Sage | hmmp | 14:28 |
lbt | grep listen etc/X11/* ? | 14:29 |
lbt | -r | 14:29 |
Sage | err | 14:29 |
Sage | I'm blind | 14:29 |
Sage | root 1380 2.3 1.0 35100 21560 tty7 Ss+ May21 79:47 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -logverbose 7 -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-g4vqPB/database -nolisten tcp vt7 | 14:29 |
Sage | it is there | 14:29 |
lbt | OK - and it's falling back to tcp because it can't do shm or something | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | lbt: shouldn't /tmp/.X11-unix be shared with host? | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ls -l /tmp/.X11-unix on sdk | 14:30 |
lbt | Stskeeps: mumble | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | sorry.. | 14:30 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:30 |
Sage | ls: cannot access /tmp/.X11-unix: No such file or directory | 14:30 |
lbt | Sage: you can try mv /tmp /tmp.old; ln -s /parentroot/tmp /tmp | 14:31 |
Sage | timoph: has X apps working on ubuntu and he has -nolisten as well | 14:31 |
Sage | lbt: sure | 14:31 |
lbt | it should be bind mounted across | 14:31 |
Sage | doesn't change things | 14:32 |
Sage | but also xauth is screwed | 14:33 |
lbt | xauth should be ok normally - that's in ~/ | 14:34 |
Sage | http://pastie.org/3955868 | 14:34 |
lbt | 's bad | 14:34 |
Sage | well on opensuse xauth is in /var/run/gdm/ ... :) | 14:34 |
lbt | 's very bad | 14:34 |
lbt | oh... | 14:34 |
lbt | suse's bad | 14:34 |
lbt | SDK no longer supported on Suse .... => coffee :D | 14:35 |
Sage | :P | 14:35 |
lbt | hmm | 14:37 |
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lbt | I'd say log it as a bug that X in SDK requires tcp to be open on host xserver | 14:39 |
lbt | and at some point we may need to bind mount the right shm thingy | 14:39 |
lbt | but really coffee now :) | 14:39 |
rcg1 | Sage: jfyi i am right now looking into building the lates qca2 version from the website | 14:53 |
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rcg1 | what's the preferred naming scheme for libs in mer, i.e. the packages containing libs? | 15:01 |
Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines | 15:01 |
Stskeeps | generally just call them what they're called upstream | 15:02 |
Stskeeps | ie, if it's called anthrax upstream, call it anthrax.. if it's called libusb, well | 15:02 |
Stskeeps | :P | 15:02 |
rcg1 | ah alright | 15:04 |
rcg1 | i was a littlebit confused.. qca e.g. is called "libqca2" in debian and "qca2" in fedora | 15:04 |
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rcg1 | thanks :) | 15:06 |
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rcg1 | sorry for bothering you guys all the time | 15:20 |
Stskeeps | you're not bothering, on the contrary | 15:20 |
Stskeeps | the basic unwritten rule is that by asking in public channels, everybody learns from the answers | 15:21 |
Stskeeps | and when it's helped to be wiki'ed or documented, even better :) | 15:21 |
rcg1 | i just uploaded a new source archive from upstream and changed the yaml and rebuild/updated the spec file.. now obs says it cannot find the new source archive | 15:21 |
rcg1 | ah great :) | 15:22 |
rcg1 | error: File /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/qca-2.0.3.tar.bz2": No such file or directory <-- that | 15:22 |
rcg1 | *thats the error | 15:22 |
rcg1 | however the file qca-2.0.3.tar.bz2 is there | 15:22 |
Stskeeps | did you osc addremove ? | 15:22 |
rcg1 | osc add | 15:22 |
Stskeeps | and commit? | 15:22 |
rcg1 | yes | 15:22 |
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rcg1 | i also see it in the web fronted | 15:23 |
Stskeeps | URL to the obs web interface package? | 15:23 |
rcg1 | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=qca2&project=home%3Awonko%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 15:23 |
Stskeeps | Source0: qca-%{version}.tar.bz2" | 15:24 |
Stskeeps | Source100: qca2.yaml | 15:24 |
Stskeeps | spot the error | 15:24 |
rcg1 | does the yaml file need to hace the same name as the source archive? | 15:25 |
rcg1 | *have | 15:25 |
rcg1 | because the upstream source archive is name: qca-2.0.3.tar.bz2 | 15:25 |
Stskeeps | no | 15:25 |
Stskeeps | there's a really glaring error | 15:25 |
Stskeeps | hint, " | 15:25 |
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rcg1 | argh | 15:25 |
rcg1 | yeah | 15:26 |
rcg1 | i'm blind | 15:26 |
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rcg1 | oh my... thanks man | 15:26 |
lbt | nb ... error is in the yaml, spec is autogenerated | 15:26 |
rcg1 | wouldn't have found that in years... despite the funny source highlighting in vim.. | 15:27 |
rcg1 | now also the source highlighting makes much more sense again | 15:27 |
rcg1 | i feel kinda sleepy after lunch | 15:28 |
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Stskeeps | mm, food sounds nice | 15:28 |
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rcg1 | btw another question | 15:36 |
rcg1 | what is good practice for building packages that are intended to into something like CE:MW:Shared? | 15:37 |
rcg1 | build it for all possible architectures/repositories or just build it for one or two | 15:37 |
rcg1 | ? | 15:37 |
Stskeeps | build for all repos that are in CE:MW:Shared | 15:38 |
Stskeeps | always good to verify your package | 15:38 |
Stskeeps | it doesn't get accepted if it doesn't build on all | 15:38 |
rcg1 | alright, just copied the repository config from CE:MW:Shared to my subproject and noticed lots of build jobs going on :) | 15:38 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:39 |
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rcg1 | Sage: fyi, I just built qca2, qca-ossl, and qca-gnupg for all repositories that are in CE:MW:Shared | 17:04 |
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rcg1 | using the latest upstream versions | 17:04 |
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mgnorwich | Hi | 17:04 |
rcg1 | hi mgnorwich | 17:04 |
Stskeeps | hi mgnorwich :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 17:05 |
mgnorwich | Nah, im just looking at open-source mobile OSes, and wanted to check out Mer :P | 17:07 |
mgnorwich | What brings you here? | 17:07 |
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Stskeeps | well i started the project.. i guess that's a justification :) | 17:07 |
Stskeeps | if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at any time, else feel free to hang out | 17:08 |
mgnorwich | Thanks, i am wondering where, and if, i could find any screenshots of Mer? | 17:09 |
wmarone | ever seen a console login prompt? | 17:10 |
Stskeeps | hehe :) mer on it's own is not terribly interesting, it's a core | 17:10 |
wmarone | or a bare X root screen? | 17:10 |
wmarone | heh | 17:10 |
Stskeeps | but combine with a ui and hw adaptation.. and you have sparkles | 17:10 |
mgnorwich | OK, Thanks | 17:11 |
mgnorwich | Bye, Bye... | 17:11 |
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Stskeeps | examples, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak4T649uDg - Nemo on top of Mer, Plasma Active, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wbyyA9X4Qk | 17:11 |
Stskeeps | etc | 17:12 |
mgnorwich | Ohh, Thanks, Bye, Bye | 17:12 |
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lbt | uh huh | 17:12 |
Stskeeps | mm? | 17:12 |
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Khaled | sup guys | 17:23 |
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Sage | rcg1: and that works for your app as well? | 17:28 |
rcg1 | didn't test that yet as I have the n950 not with me but so far i am, lets say, optimistic | 17:31 |
rcg1 | Sage: ^ | 17:32 |
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Stskeeps | lo Khaled, how is it going? | 17:36 |
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Khaled | Stskeeps: great, u? | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | Khaled: enjoying warm spring | 17:38 |
Khaled | Stskeeps: good for u | 17:39 |
Khaled | I have this question which I am required to do research on for college | 17:39 |
Stskeeps | sure | 17:39 |
Khaled | what is the best programming language of those (obj c, c++, java and c#) ? | 17:40 |
Stskeeps | heh | 17:41 |
Khaled | tough one | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | if your professor asked you that he's a moron :) | 17:41 |
Khaled | we all know | 17:41 |
Khaled | he is | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | it's not about the programming languages, it's about using the right tool for the right job, and what matters is the paradigms | 17:41 |
Khaled | he teaches me the basics so | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | ie, object-oriented, aspect-oriented, functional programming, etc.. | 17:41 |
CosmoHill | Khaled: that question is vague at best and stupid at worse | 17:42 |
Stskeeps | the answer is "what your boss tells you to use" | 17:42 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:42 |
Khaled | trust me I know | 17:42 |
CosmoHill | try and use java in an embedded C shop and see how that goes :p | 17:42 |
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Khaled | so in practice what turned out to be the best? | 17:42 |
Khaled | android is java and ios is obj c but devs love ios and make awesome apps | 17:43 |
CosmoHill | java is write once run anywhere | 17:43 |
CosmoHill | (in theory) | 17:43 |
Khaled | well i hate that statement | 17:43 |
tadzik | or "write once, run for your life" :> | 17:44 |
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Khaled | its what the webos guys keep talking aout in enyo | 17:44 |
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Khaled | which no one cares about ofcourse | 17:44 |
CosmoHill | tadzik: hehe | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | enyo doesn't use java, though :P | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | javascript != java | 17:44 |
Khaled | i know | 17:44 |
Khaled | but they have the same web thing where porting is so easy | 17:44 |
CosmoHill | Khaled: to find out what is the best you need to figure out what you want to do withit | 17:45 |
Khaled | ok so for example | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | Khaled: write a small essay to your professor on what we just said here and that's the answer.. | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:45 |
Khaled | building an os from scratch? | 17:45 |
Khaled | its supposed to be 5pages or somehing | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | ugh | 17:46 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:46 |
CosmoHill | I can build one from source, it uses c, c++, perl and bash | 17:46 |
Khaled | what about c# is it only for microsoft? | 17:46 |
Stskeeps | there's people who do kernels in C# | 17:46 |
CosmoHill | Khaled: that rules out java | 17:46 |
Stskeeps | so it's not impossible | 17:46 |
CosmoHill | Mono on linux for C# | 17:46 |
Khaled | i am sorry what is mono? | 17:47 |
CosmoHill | C# for linux | 17:47 |
CosmoHill | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29 | 17:47 |
Khaled | i read this article about guys who ported android completly to c# using mono | 17:48 |
Khaled | ill get it for u | 17:48 |
CosmoHill | did you read the following artical where he gave up modern life and now lifes in the woods? | 17:48 |
Khaled | http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/ | 17:48 |
Khaled | lol | 17:48 |
Khaled | tell me your opinion on that | 17:49 |
CosmoHill | Khaled: given a fast computer and a day you can build a basic linux distro from source code | 17:49 |
CosmoHill | some software uses multiple languages itself | 17:49 |
Khaled | they say that java is too slow compared to c# | 17:50 |
arc_mat | android in c#? it's a pure marketing stunt from ximian, aeh, xamarin | 17:50 |
Khaled | so is c# better? | 17:50 |
Khaled | i dont know they named it xobotos and its on github | 17:51 |
Khaled | see for yourself | 17:51 |
Stskeeps | anyway, we're going fairly off topic here | 17:52 |
Khaled | btw is mer based on javascript? | 17:52 |
CosmoHill | no | 17:52 |
CosmoHill | you can't write a OS in JS | 17:52 |
Khaled | from the choices i gave u what can u write with? | 17:53 |
Khaled | for that matter what is mer based on? | 17:53 |
CosmoHill | it's too vauge | 17:53 |
Stskeeps | Khaled: i'd recommend browsing through http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/ and researching that | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | that's how i learnt | 17:54 |
CosmoHill | you could argue the strong and weak points for each, server vs desktop vs tablet vs phone | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | CosmoHill: also, you can practically do a whole OS in javascript if you truly wanted | 17:54 |
CosmoHill | V8 / node.js would be less painful | 17:55 |
Stskeeps | sure, just saying | 17:55 |
Khaled | thnx alot | 17:55 |
Khaled | one last question | 17:55 |
CosmoHill | your keyboard seems broke, good luck writing that essay | 17:56 |
Khaled | what is webos really based on ? | 17:56 |
Khaled | lol i am on an ipad | 17:56 |
CosmoHill | coke | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | Khaled: webkit engine on top of gnu/linux | 17:56 |
Khaled | and mer | 17:56 |
Khaled | ? | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | mer's more of a core, remember | 17:57 |
CosmoHill | Khaled: are you in any other freenode channels? | 17:57 |
Stskeeps | it does contain a webkit engine | 17:57 |
Stskeeps | but it isn't restricted to that | 17:57 |
Khaled | yes | 17:57 |
CosmoHill | you might wanna give #lfs-support a go | 17:57 |
Khaled | what is that? | 17:57 |
CosmoHill | LFS = Linux From Scratch | 17:58 |
CosmoHill | should help you understand linux distros more | 17:58 |
CosmoHill | here's an interesting fact for you, takes less than 30 mins to compile windows 7 from source :) | 17:58 |
arc_mat | Stskeeps: nah, webos had a quite decent part of qt/qml under its hood | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | arc_mat: yes, just abstracting :P | 17:58 |
arc_mat | Stskeeps: you can't really say it's a web runtime ;) | 17:59 |
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arc_mat | the best programming language is the one that gets "the job" done | 18:00 |
arc_mat | the best programming language is also the one you know best | 18:00 |
arc_mat | the best programming language is always the next one ;) | 18:00 |
arc_mat | or the only one you know | 18:01 |
arc_mat | awk can be an awesome programming language ;) | 18:01 |
arc_mat | only bash truly stinks | 18:02 |
arc_mat | :-) | 18:02 |
arc_mat | but as a matter of fact, you cannot affort to just choose one and stick with it. | 18:03 |
arc_mat | because it will get you into all sorts of nasty, religious arguments | 18:04 |
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CosmoHill | hi vgrade | 18:28 |
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vgrade | CosmoHill, hi | 18:45 |
CosmoHill | arc_mat: hehe | 18:46 |
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phaeron1 | jbos: hello | 19:13 |
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rcg1 | now this is strange.. i get a loop in building a package.. the build finishes and the log say the vm was shut down but immediately afterwards the build starts from scratch | 19:46 |
lbt | where ? | 19:48 |
rcg1 | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qca2&project=home%3Awonko | 19:48 |
rcg1 | in my home project the qca2 package | 19:49 |
rcg1 | i built the very same package already successfully in another subproject | 19:49 |
lbt | watching... | 19:49 |
rcg1 | it takes some seconds until the build restarts but it eventually restarts | 19:50 |
rcg1 | can you see it? | 19:53 |
rcg1 | its using a different builder each time | 19:53 |
lbt | ERROR:root:code for hash md5 was not found. | 19:53 |
rcg1 | anything i can do about this? | 19:53 |
lbt | it is really odd that it builds fine in a subproj | 19:54 |
rcg1 | well, i use a different repository in that subproject | 19:54 |
lbt | different build then :) | 19:55 |
lbt | the repo provides all the build-deps | 19:55 |
lbt | it should not be happening though | 19:55 |
lbt | Sage: ping | 19:55 |
lbt | tail end of a build againstCE_MW_MTF_CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl : https://gist.github.com/2777393 | 19:56 |
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Sage | lbt: pong | 19:59 |
lbt | have you seen an error like that before? | 19:59 |
Sage | yes, filed a bug about it | 19:59 |
lbt | :) | 20:00 |
Sage | it is the python 2.7 update | 20:00 |
Sage | not fatal | 20:00 |
lbt | seems to be causing rebuild loop here | 20:00 |
Sage | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 | 20:00 |
Sage | oh, well then it is more serious. | 20:00 |
rcg1 | hmm i am not sure if this error causes the loop | 20:02 |
lbt | other than that the build seems to be OK doesn't it? | 20:02 |
rcg1 | actually i am pretty sure, looking at my other successful builds | 20:02 |
rcg1 | there the error is as well | 20:03 |
rcg1 | but they succeeded and do not loop | 20:03 |
rcg1 | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qca2&project=home%3Awonko%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 20:03 |
rcg1 | see yourself there | 20:04 |
rcg1 | let me try another thing.. this is a new version of the qca2 package.. yesterday i already had another version build fine.. also in my home project | 20:05 |
rcg1 | i will try that again and see what happens | 20:06 |
lbt | I cant see that it should matter | 20:06 |
rcg1 | yeah, me neither, just checking | 20:07 |
rcg1 | same result | 20:13 |
rcg1 | could it be that the diskspace is full or that there are other issues when it is trying to move the files to the download repository? | 20:13 |
rcg1 | and because the results show not up outside of the vm as expected it keeps triggering rebuilds? | 20:14 |
rcg1 | that's quite far fetched admittedly | 20:14 |
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rcg1 | hmm.. do you think this is because of something i did or is the obs having issues? | 20:19 |
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lbt | no obvious obs issues | 20:36 |
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lbt | rcg1: mmm you deleted the working project? | 20:46 |
lbt | I was looking at the build log :) | 20:46 |
rcg1 | lbt: oh my.. yeah i did | 20:46 |
rcg1 | tried to clean everything up to ensure its not my mess causing issues | 20:47 |
lbt | no, it shouldn't be able to do this | 20:47 |
lbt | I think build is returning a fail | 20:48 |
lbt | probably due to the rpmlint issue | 20:48 |
rcg1 | i see.. i also set up a Test subproject in which i tested if the "old configuration" works but this now also shows the same issue | 20:49 |
rcg1 | might be that this issue just started after the package in the other subproject succeeded to build? | 20:50 |
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rcg1 | hmm it seems to be a general issue indeed.. | 20:51 |
rcg1 | lbt: i just restarted another package that worked before.. this one also loops.. it very shortly shows "dispatching" after the build has finished but then jumps back to "building" immediately | 20:52 |
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lbt | phaeron1: X-Fade: I don't suppose you did anything to OBS in the last 7hours? | 20:54 |
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lbt | rcg1: I don't think it's your build | 20:56 |
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rcg1 | lbt: i see | 20:57 |
rcg1 | i was already worried i could have messed things up.. today i kinda have my head elsewhere | 20:58 |
rcg1 | maybe someone else in here has a correctly built package against mer? | 20:58 |
rcg1 | then it would be possible to save the log of the correct build, trigger a rebuild and compare these logs. | 20:58 |
lbt | nah | 20:58 |
lbt | I'm logged into the worker directly now | 20:59 |
rcg1 | ah alright | 20:59 |
lbt | "rpc failed: socket write: Broken pipe" | 20:59 |
lbt | not good | 20:59 |
lbt | not helpful either :/ | 20:59 |
phaeron1 | lbt: notme | 20:59 |
lbt | phaeron1: something's odd | 21:00 |
lbt | https://gist.github.com/2777790 | 21:00 |
lbt | something has died - srcserver or ??? | 21:00 |
lbt | yep 2-05-23 20:57:34: build finished 'okular' for project 'Project:KDE:Devel' repository 'MeeGo_1.2_OSS' has the same prob | 21:01 |
phaeron1 | lbt: check ntp time sync | 21:03 |
lbt | good idea | 21:04 |
lbt | be was an hour out | 21:05 |
lbt | looks like that was it | 21:07 |
rcg1 | ah yes | 21:07 |
rcg1 | that seems to have fixed it | 21:07 |
lbt | phaeron1: I think adam got fed up with the ntp alerts and turned off ntp | 21:08 |
lbt | mmm kicked all the workers and rebooted 7 ... | 21:10 |
lbt | rcg1: thanks for alerting me | 21:10 |
lbt | I admit I was tempted to say "tomorrow" :) | 21:11 |
rcg1 | lbt: you're welcome :) | 21:11 |
rcg1 | hehe, and i would have completely understood this, assuming you are also GMT+1 ;) | 21:11 |
lbt | yup | 21:12 |
lbt | you UK too ? | 21:12 |
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rcg1 | germany | 21:12 |
lbt | close | 21:12 |
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phaeron1 | lbt: what alerts | 21:13 |
rcg1 | ah we are even gmt+2 in summer :) | 21:14 |
lbt | phaeron1: we used to get nagios alerts | 21:14 |
lbt | 16 Aug 09:52:08 ntpd[12796]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 | 21:15 |
lbt | :/ | 21:15 |
phaeron1 | I hope connman does it better :D | 21:16 |
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lbt | I wonder if ntp.meego.com is down | 21:17 |
lbt | actually ntp is running | 21:17 |
lbt | but suse looks like it just stopped logging :/ | 21:17 |
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rcg1 | lbt: i am afraid the issue is there again | 21:30 |
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lbt | rcg1: looking | 21:34 |
rcg1 | ah now one package succeeded | 21:35 |
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rcg1 | yes, now they succeed one after another | 21:36 |
rcg1 | lbt: thanks :) | 21:36 |
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rcg1 | Sage: finally, i tested the latest versions of qca and qca-ossl. they also work with my application. i submitted qca2 and qca-ossl. in my subproject they built successfully for all repos in CE:MW:Shared | 22:02 |
rcg1 | i also made a package for qca-gnupg. however, i have no application to test the package with. | 22:03 |
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Sc0rpius | no SMS app for the current Nemo build? | 23:55 |
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