#mer log for Wednesday, 2012-05-23

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StskeepsBostik: we need a better spec file name for qtwebkit i think05:02
Stskeepsthis will for sure clash with qt4's :)05:02
Bostikname of the spec file itself only?05:06
Stskeepsyeah, it's not good we have two qtwebkit's05:07
Bostikright05:08
Stskeepsas i assume we can't use same source code base for both qt4 and qt505:09
Bostiktrue enough05:09
Bostikdone, uploading changes05:11
* Stskeeps is staging qtxmlpatterns,qtgraphicseffects, etc05:12
BostikCOBS is having minor fits, it seems since my osc commit batches time out05:15
Stskeeps:nod:05:16
SageIs this normal when path of binary changes: http://pastie.org/3953855 ?05:20
Sageor has sdk problem with that?05:20
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Sagelbt: ^05:20
Sc0rpiushash -r05:24
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Sc0rpiusto flush the path cache for bash05:24
StskeepsBostik: new tech btw, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/sb2-b1-obs-victory.txt - ability to properly install both host and target with RPMs, and do full cross compilation if wanted, and ARM-like environment with SB2 too05:25
StskeepsBostik: so if you have packages that can be fully cross compiled that's possible05:25
Sc0rpiusSB2 uses Xephyr as well?05:25
StskeepsSc0rpius: nah, we don't use xephyr05:25
Stskeepssb2 is just used as a cross compilation engine mostly05:25
Sc0rpiushow do you get a glimpse of the GUI then?05:25
Sc0rpiusyou test on the device?05:26
Stskeepsboot the x86 version in a VM? :)05:26
Sc0rpiushmmm05:26
Stskeepswe have llvmpipe, some claim 60fps05:26
BostikStskeeps: I don't honestly know if my qt5 packages qualify but I can certainly enjoy the effects of eg. mesa builds going through that05:28
StskeepsBostik: :nod:05:28
Bostikthey _should_ qualify, but I've long since stopped making any assumptions about how qt does anything ;)05:28
StskeepsBostik: my hope is to make it possible to do really really interesting cores using this.. like non-self-hosted cores05:28
Stskeepsso we can do systems of very small size05:28
Bostikhad to think a bit but I may understand what you're after, and I feel conflicted about it05:38
Stskeeps:nod:05:39
Bostiksmaller build environments, sure, but knowing how developers (ab)use any SDK environments they get their hands on, there's going to be some really strange bugs due to mixed environments05:39
Stskeepsthe other idea is to be able to selectively drop down to cross compile only, or for that matter, sb2 only05:39
Stskeepsfor packages05:39
Stskeepsso for qt we could cross compile cleanly05:40
Stskeepsbut let's see how it pans out05:40
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Sagealmost there only one missing :)06:51
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lbtmorning all07:43
* lbt has coffee -> work .... l8r07:46
X-Fadecoffee work, hmmm? Own plantation? :)07:46
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slainemorning you blokes08:31
Stskeepsmorn slaine o/08:31
slaineI got very little sleep and am some what giddy this morning08:32
BostikStskeeps: changed recipe files to qtwebkit5.{spec,changes}; go wild08:32
StskeepsBostik: thanks08:32
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sonachStskeeps: when OBS builds my package, it reports: cp: cannot stat `test': No such file or directory. In my spec file, there is a line: cp test /lib/modules. but the file 'test' is there.09:23
Stskeepssonach: before that in the .spec file, echo $PWD; ls -l test09:23
slaineiekku_: congrats09:25
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sonachStskeeps: ok, I am trying. it takes several minutes to rebuild the package although the package is very simple:)09:29
Stskeepssonach: yeah, this may have to deal with how your builder is set up09:29
Stskeepssonach: i have it down to 50secs for many09:29
sonachStskeeps: cool, how to achieve this? is there any guidance on mer wiki?09:30
sonachStskeeps: the '$PWD' outputs '/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD'.09:30
Stskeepssonach: ok, and what phase are you in, %build , %install ?09:31
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Stskeepssonach: i use tmpfs, so building with disk within the ram09:31
sonachStskeeps: in %build, there is nothing, because 'test' is prebuilt. and under %install, there is just a 'cp' command,09:32
sonachI just put 'test' in testrpm-0.1 directory, and tar it to testrpm-0.1.tar.gz,09:32
Stskeepsok09:32
Stskeepscan i see the .spec file please?09:32
sonachStskeeps: http://pastie.org/395464609:33
sonachNow I want to put hi3716m's prebuilt binaries to rpms , and make image automatically,09:33
Stskeepssonach: yes, makes sense09:34
Stskeepsmoment09:34
sonachok09:34
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Stskeepssonach: first off, in %prep section, you need to unpack the tar.gz - this is done with %setup -q -n %{name}-%{version} normally09:35
Stskeepssee http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/gzip.git;a=blob;f=gzip.spec;h=5ad789f3026075a83ec31fd06c0cf160e9f77a9d;hb=HEAD#l5809:35
Stskeepssecond, what you're installing needs to go inside %{buildroot}, so mkdir -p %{buildroot}/lib/modules09:36
Stskeepsand cp test.txt %{buildroot}/lib/modules09:37
Stskeepsthe RPM build does not run as root, so you cannot copy into /lib/modules09:37
Bostiknever, ever, EVER try to install anything into system paths09:37
Stskeepswell you can try but it won't work09:37
Stskeeps:P09:37
* Bostik shudders at all the qt DESTDIR abuses he's fixed...09:37
sonachStskeeps: 'the RPM build does not run as root, so you cannot copy into /lib/modules', how to solve this? Because I want to copy hi3716m's ko files into /lib/modules,09:38
Stskeepssonach: sure, in the package, %{buildroot}/ is the root of the file system09:39
sonachok, I see, to %{buildroot}/lib/modules,09:39
Stskeepssonach: ie, installing into %{buildroot}/lib/modules will, when you install the rpm, make it land in /lib/modules09:39
Bostiksonach: you're building a package, so install into ‰{buildroot}/lib/modules, which then ends up in .rpm which places the file to the system's /lib/modules09:40
iekku_slaine, :)09:43
slaineiekku_: well earned too09:44
iekku_slaine, haven't done enough09:45
iekku_slaine, but working on it :)09:45
SageE-P: almost there :)09:48
sonachStskeeps: Bostik: thank you, it works:)09:48
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E-PSage: heh, great!09:49
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iekku_it's damn hard to consentrate on work, it's summer outside09:53
Sageiekku_: not nerd enouhg? ;)09:54
iekku_Sage, no :(09:55
iekku_it would help if i couldn't see outside09:55
SageE-P: close but still needs work http://pastie.org/3954739 At least it installs all deps already with single package and config as well09:59
SageMerSDK bash-3.2$ cat /etc/tdriver/tdriver_parameters.xml10:00
SageMerSDK bash-3.2$10:00
Sagehmmp...  might be the issue :D10:00
E-Pmost likely :)10:01
Sage\o/ it works \o/10:02
E-Pwuhuu10:04
E-Pone important tool in mer then!10:05
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting10:05
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SageSo for host: testability-driver-host and for device: qttas-server10:07
E-Pthe qttas-server is for qt4, qt5 might require some changes10:07
Sage:nod:10:08
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* Sage thinks now it is time to rest a bit10:16
Sagemaybe I should go jogging or something ;)10:16
iekku_Sage, what????10:16
iekku_why i'm iekku_ ?10:17
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iekku:X10:17
Sageiekku: The hard work is done so time to take it a bit easier, right? So jogging comes to my mind at first as the weather is so nice ;)10:18
iekku:)10:19
SageMy brains can rest etc. ;)10:19
iekkui promissed walk in the forest after workday is done10:19
iekkumight be good idea to take it now and continue working after that10:19
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Sageanyone managed to run x application from mer sdk?10:52
Sageif so has "export DISPLAY=:0" been enough?10:53
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timophSage: I ran qt-creator from it. can't remember if I did su - mer before running it though11:07
Sageuser mer doesn't exist...11:08
timophhmmh11:08
* timoph checks11:08
Sageit seems that I can't su anything inside sdk, sudo works though11:09
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timophI don't need to set DISPLAY11:14
timophinstalled qtcreator to the sdk just ran it11:14
timophneeded to install fonts though11:14
Sagehmmp11:14
Sagewhat distro?11:15
timophubuntu 12.0411:15
Sageps aux | grep Xorg11:15
timophtimoph    2519  0.0  0.0   2508   528 pts/2    S+   11:15   0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg11:15
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Sageerr...11:16
Sagemaybe just X ?11:16
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Sageon my opensuse 12.1: /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -logverbose 7 -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-g4vqPB/database -nolisten tcp vt711:16
SageI11:16
timophtimoph    2519  0.0  0.0   2508   528 pts/2    S+   11:15   0:00 grep --color=auto Xorg11:16
SageI'm pondering if tha -auth has something to do with it11:16
timopherr11:16
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timophselinux?11:17
Sagenot in opensuse11:17
Sagetimoph: from which repo did you install qt-creator?11:18
timophmy home project11:18
Sagemaybe it has some dep that I'm missing11:18
timophhttp://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/timoph/Mer_Core_i586/11:18
Sagehmmp. no. only qt deps there:   libqtdeclarative4 libqtdesigner4 libqthelp4 libqtscript4 libqtsql4-sqlite libqtsvg4 libqtxmlpatterns4 qt-creator11:21
Sagewell lets see if that starts11:21
slaineYou can also export XAUTHORITY=/var/run….11:22
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Sagewell, the thing with that is that mer sdk doesn't mount that to the sdk :)11:22
Sageso can't do that I guess11:22
slainehmm, good point11:22
Sageah, parentroot is there maybe that would do11:23
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Sageodoesnt help11:25
Sage:(11:25
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Sagehttp://pastie.org/395509911:32
Sagetimoph: could you check what does your xauth list say inside sdk11:32
Sageslaine: but you are right, it is probably the xauth thing that is wrong here11:33
timophhmm. xauth: command not found11:34
Sageneed to install it first :)11:34
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Sagetimoph: zypper isntall xorg-x11-xauth11:35
SageI can access the xauth database on host side but not inside the sdk11:35
timophit's the same on sdk and on host (...MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1...)11:36
Sageno actually I can11:36
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timophalthough I haven't upgraded to the latest sdk so there could be regression11:37
Sagewell I have some updates in queue a well11:37
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Sageok, so what else could be there. After setting XAUTHORITY to same (with /parentroot/) I have same xauth list at least11:38
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slaineI notice that libgcrypt failed to rebuild13:24
slainefor my batch rebuild13:24
Stskeepswhat error?13:28
slainejust looking now13:28
slaine1 test failed out of 2113:28
slaineand then13:28
slaineline 17: prereq is deprecated: PreReq: /sbin/install-info13:28
Sage...13:29
Sagethat is deprecated rpm option, does mer has that?13:29
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SageShould be Requires(pre) IIRC13:29
Stskeepsslaine: try a rebuild13:29
slaineIt has PreReq in there13:30
Sageit shouldn't fail though as we don't have such check..13:30
slainehttp://pastebin.com/hn8Kx3gh13:30
slaineError log13:31
slainehttp://pastebin.com/SX9jLfWj13:31
slaine(partial)13:31
Sageah, doesn't relate to the actual error13:33
Sageslaine: the error is more  up in that one. one of the tests failed13:34
slaineStill, the spec file should be updated13:34
Sageslaine: true13:34
slaineBasic failed13:34
SageStskeeps: we might want to put rpmlint fail on that kind of deprecated things.13:34
slaineAlso, OBS WebUI seems to have lost the ability to issue a rebuild of a package, or I'm blind13:35
Sageslaine: give it a moment and check that you have logged in. It is in the error log page.13:35
slaineSage, ah, wasn't logged in, silly me13:36
slaineedited the spec file in my my obs and triggered a rebuild, see how we get on13:37
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slainereimported the libgcrypt package and rebuilt13:43
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slaineseems to be working now13:43
slainecool, all architectures I imported are rebuilt13:48
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Sagethis X apps not working from sdk for me is starting to get annoying.13:53
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Stskeepslbt: ping13:57
Stskeepslbt: did you push to release-tools 2 hours ago?13:58
lbtyes14:00
w00tmatrixx: ping14:00
lbtStskeeps: I pushed to a branch called "on-monster"14:00
Stskeepslbt: ok, just checking14:01
lbtmainly so I can pull it locally and work on it14:01
Stskeepslbt: when i notice anything that looks remotely suspicious about packages-git i tell, for security's sake :P14:01
lbtgood idea :)14:01
lbtnb I rebased to your master14:01
matrixxw00t: pong14:01
lbtso at some point I'll push that for review14:01
lbtI'm making it independent of Mer:Core14:02
lbtso I can use it all for Tools and maybe even Nemo14:02
w00tmatrixx: so, wondering how much you've done your own experimentation with QtGraphicalEffects :) as I have a bit of a problem14:02
Stskeepslbt: makes sense14:02
Sagelbt: any ideas what could be wrong with my Mer SDK and that I can't run X apps when timoph can run those fine :/14:03
SageMust be something related to either SDK version or Host OS.14:04
matrixxw00t: actually not more than I did before FOSDEM, have had some other projects going on taking all time :/14:04
w00tmatrixx: ah..14:04
lbtSage: X talks via shared memory or tcp iirc14:04
lbtso if you have nolisten-tcp that could block a fallback14:05
Sagelbt: any idea how to check?14:09
lbtI'm just trying on my machine - I permit tcp though14:09
lbtnetstat -lnp on host14:09
StskeepsSage: ps aux| grep X14:09
lbtnetstat -lnp | grep X14:10
Sagewell at least cmdline doesn't show nolisten14:10
Sagehttp://pastie.org/395576814:10
lbtsame here14:11
StskeepsSage: opensuse firewall on?14:11
Stskeeps:P14:11
Sagegrr14:12
Stskeepsarticle in danish tech newspaper talking about tizen being a further-developed version of meego14:13
* Stskeeps tries to resist commenting 14:13
Stskeeps(tizen ivi excepted, of course)14:13
lbtgive in to temptation14:14
Sagefirewall doesn't seem to have effect14:14
StskeepsSage: ls -l /tmp/.X11*14:14
SageSo the X apps work for everyone else than me? :)14:14
Sagehost or sdk?14:14
Stskeepsboth14:14
Sageon host only /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 on sdk nothing14:15
lbtwhat X apps are there in core?14:15
lbtanything ?14:15
Stskeepslbt: testrunner? xterm?14:16
Stskeeps:P14:16
Sagelbt: xhost?14:16
Sageeven xhost doesn't work for me14:16
lbtwhat package?14:16
Sagexorg-x11-utils-xhost14:17
SageStskeeps: o_0 is xterm in core?14:18
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SageI though it wasn't there14:18
lbtI thought zypper search was fixed :/14:19
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lbtSage: try DISPLAY=localhost:014:20
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StskeepsSage: ok, it may not be..14:22
Sagehttp://pastie.org/3955807 no :/14:22
StskeepsSage: http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/12524.html14:23
lbtMerSDK david:~ > xhost14:24
lbtaccess control disabled, clients can connect from any host14:24
Sagelbt: well, that is what is says on my Host, but on SDK it says can't connect14:25
Sagelbt: what host are you running sdk on?14:25
lbtdebian14:25
lbtstrace is short14:25
Sageso debian and ubuntu works :)14:26
lbtgetpeername(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}, [16]) = 014:26
lbtdo you have    tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6000            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -14:26
lbtin netstat -lnp | grep 6000  on host14:27
Sageno14:27
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lbthmm14:28
lbtso I suspect nolisten :)14:28
lbtcould be in the confi14:28
lbtg14:28
Sagehmmp14:28
lbtgrep listen etc/X11/* ?14:29
lbt-r14:29
Sageerr14:29
SageI'm blind14:29
Sageroot      1380  2.3  1.0  35100 21560 tty7     Ss+  May21  79:47 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -logverbose 7 -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-g4vqPB/database -nolisten tcp vt714:29
Sageit is there14:29
lbtOK - and it's falling back to tcp because it can't do shm or something14:30
Stskeepslbt: shouldn't /tmp/.X11-unix be shared with host?14:30
StskeepsSage: ls -l /tmp/.X11-unix on sdk14:30
lbtStskeeps: mumble14:30
Stskeepssorry..14:30
Stskeeps:P14:30
Sagels: cannot access /tmp/.X11-unix: No such file or directory14:30
lbtSage: you can try mv /tmp /tmp.old; ln -s /parentroot/tmp /tmp14:31
Sagetimoph: has X apps working on ubuntu and he has -nolisten as well14:31
Sagelbt: sure14:31
lbtit should be bind mounted across14:31
Sagedoesn't change things14:32
Sagebut also xauth is screwed14:33
lbtxauth should be ok normally - that's in ~/14:34
Sagehttp://pastie.org/395586814:34
lbt's bad14:34
Sagewell on opensuse xauth is in /var/run/gdm/ ... :)14:34
lbt's very bad14:34
lbtoh...14:34
lbtsuse's bad14:34
lbtSDK no longer supported on Suse .... => coffee :D14:35
Sage:P14:35
lbthmm14:37
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lbtI'd say log it as a bug that X in SDK requires tcp to be open on host xserver14:39
lbtand at some point we may need to bind mount the right shm thingy14:39
lbtbut really coffee now :)14:39
rcg1Sage: jfyi i am right now looking into building the lates qca2 version from the website14:53
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rcg1what's the preferred naming scheme for libs in mer, i.e. the packages containing libs?15:01
Stskeepshttp://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines15:01
Stskeepsgenerally just call them what they're called upstream15:02
Stskeepsie, if it's called anthrax upstream, call it anthrax.. if it's called libusb, well15:02
Stskeeps:P15:02
rcg1ah alright15:04
rcg1i was a littlebit confused.. qca e.g. is called "libqca2" in debian and "qca2" in fedora15:04
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rcg1thanks :)15:06
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rcg1sorry for bothering you guys all the time15:20
Stskeepsyou're not bothering, on the contrary15:20
Stskeepsthe basic unwritten rule is that by asking in public channels, everybody learns from the answers15:21
Stskeepsand when it's helped to be wiki'ed or documented, even better :)15:21
rcg1i just uploaded a new source archive from upstream and changed the yaml and rebuild/updated the spec file.. now obs says it cannot find the new source archive15:21
rcg1ah great :)15:22
rcg1error: File /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/qca-2.0.3.tar.bz2": No such file or directory   <-- that15:22
rcg1*thats the error15:22
rcg1however the file qca-2.0.3.tar.bz2 is there15:22
Stskeepsdid you osc addremove ?15:22
rcg1osc add15:22
Stskeepsand commit?15:22
rcg1yes15:22
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rcg1i also see it in the web fronted15:23
StskeepsURL to the obs web interface package?15:23
rcg1https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=qca2&project=home%3Awonko%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared15:23
StskeepsSource0:    qca-%{version}.tar.bz2"15:24
StskeepsSource100:  qca2.yaml15:24
Stskeepsspot the error15:24
rcg1does the yaml file need to hace the same name as the source archive?15:25
rcg1*have15:25
rcg1because the upstream source archive is name: qca-2.0.3.tar.bz215:25
Stskeepsno15:25
Stskeepsthere's a really glaring error15:25
Stskeepshint, "15:25
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rcg1argh15:25
rcg1yeah15:26
rcg1i'm blind15:26
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rcg1oh my... thanks man15:26
lbtnb ... error is in the yaml, spec is autogenerated15:26
rcg1wouldn't have found that in years... despite the funny source highlighting in vim..15:27
rcg1now also the source highlighting makes much more sense again15:27
rcg1i feel kinda sleepy after lunch15:28
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Stskeepsmm, food sounds nice15:28
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rcg1btw another question15:36
rcg1what is good practice for building packages that are intended to into something like CE:MW:Shared?15:37
rcg1build it for all possible architectures/repositories or just build it for one or two15:37
rcg1?15:37
Stskeepsbuild for all repos that are in CE:MW:Shared15:38
Stskeepsalways good to verify your package15:38
Stskeepsit doesn't get accepted if it doesn't build on all15:38
rcg1alright, just copied the repository config from CE:MW:Shared to my subproject and noticed lots of build jobs going on :)15:38
Stskeeps:nod:15:39
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rcg1Sage: fyi, I just built qca2, qca-ossl, and qca-gnupg for all repositories that are in CE:MW:Shared17:04
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rcg1using the latest upstream versions17:04
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mgnorwichHi17:04
rcg1hi mgnorwich17:04
Stskeepshi mgnorwich :) so what brings you here to #mer ?17:05
mgnorwichNah, im just looking at open-source mobile OSes, and wanted to check out Mer :P17:07
mgnorwichWhat brings you here?17:07
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Stskeepswell i started the project.. i guess that's a justification :)17:07
Stskeepsif you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at any time, else feel free to hang out17:08
mgnorwichThanks, i am wondering where, and if, i could find any screenshots of Mer?17:09
wmaroneever seen a console login prompt?17:10
Stskeepshehe :) mer on it's own is not terribly interesting, it's a core17:10
wmaroneor a bare X root screen?17:10
wmaroneheh17:10
Stskeepsbut combine with a ui and hw adaptation.. and you have sparkles17:10
mgnorwichOK, Thanks17:11
mgnorwich Bye,  Bye...17:11
* rcg1 likes sparkles17:11
Stskeepsexamples, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak4T649uDg - Nemo on top of Mer, Plasma Active, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wbyyA9X4Qk17:11
Stskeepsetc17:12
mgnorwichOhh, Thanks, Bye, Bye17:12
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lbtuh huh17:12
Stskeepsmm?17:12
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Khaledsup guys17:23
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Sagercg1: and that works for your app as well?17:28
rcg1didn't test that yet as I have the n950 not with me but so far i am, lets say, optimistic17:31
rcg1Sage: ^17:32
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Stskeepslo Khaled, how is it going?17:36
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KhaledStskeeps: great, u?17:37
StskeepsKhaled: enjoying warm spring17:38
KhaledStskeeps: good for u17:39
KhaledI have this question which I am required to do research on for college17:39
Stskeepssure17:39
Khaledwhat is the best programming language of those (obj c, c++, java and c#) ?17:40
Stskeepsheh17:41
Khaledtough one17:41
Stskeepsif your professor asked you that he's a moron :)17:41
Khaledwe all know17:41
Khaledhe is17:41
Stskeepsit's not about the programming languages, it's about using the right tool for the right job, and what matters is the paradigms17:41
Khaledhe teaches me the basics so17:41
Stskeepsie, object-oriented, aspect-oriented, functional programming, etc..17:41
CosmoHillKhaled: that question is vague at best and stupid at worse17:42
Stskeepsthe answer is "what your boss tells you to use"17:42
Stskeeps:P17:42
Khaledtrust me I know17:42
CosmoHilltry and use java in an embedded C shop and see how that goes :p17:42
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Khaledso in practice what turned out to be the best?17:42
Khaledandroid is java and ios is obj c but devs love ios and make awesome apps17:43
CosmoHilljava is write once run anywhere17:43
CosmoHill(in theory)17:43
Khaledwell i hate that statement17:43
tadzikor "write once, run for your life" :>17:44
* tadzik hides17:44
Khaledits what the webos guys keep talking aout in enyo17:44
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Khaledwhich no one cares about ofcourse17:44
CosmoHilltadzik: hehe17:44
Stskeepsenyo doesn't use java, though :P17:44
Stskeepsjavascript != java17:44
Khaledi know17:44
Khaledbut they have the same web thing where porting is so easy17:44
CosmoHillKhaled: to find out what is the best you need to figure out what you want to do withit17:45
Khaledok so for example17:45
StskeepsKhaled: write a small essay to your professor on what we just said here and that's the answer..17:45
Stskeeps:P17:45
Khaledbuilding an os from scratch?17:45
Khaledits supposed to be 5pages or somehing17:45
Stskeepsugh17:46
Stskeeps:P17:46
CosmoHillI can build one from source, it uses c, c++, perl and bash17:46
Khaledwhat about c# is it only for microsoft?17:46
Stskeepsthere's people who do kernels in C#17:46
CosmoHillKhaled: that rules out java17:46
Stskeepsso it's not impossible17:46
CosmoHillMono on linux for C#17:46
Khaledi am sorry what is mono?17:47
CosmoHillC# for linux17:47
CosmoHillhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%2917:47
Khaledi read this article about guys who ported android completly to c# using mono17:48
Khaledill get it for u17:48
CosmoHilldid you read the following artical where he gave up modern life and now lifes in the woods?17:48
Khaledhttp://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/17:48
Khaledlol17:48
Khaledtell me your opinion on that17:49
CosmoHillKhaled: given a fast computer and a day you can build a basic linux distro from source code17:49
CosmoHillsome software uses multiple languages itself17:49
Khaledthey say that java is too slow compared to c#17:50
arc_matandroid in c#? it's a pure marketing stunt from ximian, aeh, xamarin17:50
Khaledso is c# better?17:50
Khaledi dont know they named it xobotos and its on github17:51
Khaledsee for yourself17:51
Stskeepsanyway, we're going fairly off topic here17:52
Khaledbtw is mer based on javascript?17:52
CosmoHillno17:52
CosmoHillyou can't write a OS in JS17:52
Khaledfrom the choices i gave u what can u write with?17:53
Khaledfor that matter what is mer based on?17:53
CosmoHillit's too vauge17:53
StskeepsKhaled: i'd recommend browsing through http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/ and researching that17:54
Stskeepsthat's how i learnt17:54
CosmoHillyou could argue the strong and weak points for each, server vs desktop vs tablet vs phone17:54
StskeepsCosmoHill: also, you can practically do a whole OS in javascript if you truly wanted17:54
CosmoHillV8 / node.js would be less painful17:55
Stskeepssure, just saying17:55
Khaledthnx alot17:55
Khaledone last question17:55
CosmoHillyour keyboard seems broke, good luck writing that essay17:56
Khaledwhat is webos really based on ?17:56
Khaledlol i am on an ipad17:56
CosmoHillcoke17:56
StskeepsKhaled: webkit engine on top of gnu/linux17:56
Khaledand mer17:56
Khaled?17:56
Stskeepsmer's more of a core, remember17:57
CosmoHillKhaled: are you in any other freenode channels?17:57
Stskeepsit does contain a webkit engine17:57
Stskeepsbut it isn't restricted to that17:57
Khaledyes17:57
CosmoHillyou might wanna give #lfs-support a go17:57
Khaledwhat is that?17:57
CosmoHillLFS = Linux From Scratch17:58
CosmoHillshould help you understand linux distros more17:58
CosmoHillhere's an interesting fact for you, takes less than 30 mins to compile windows 7 from source :)17:58
arc_matStskeeps: nah, webos had a quite decent part of qt/qml under its hood17:58
Stskeepsarc_mat: yes, just abstracting :P17:58
arc_matStskeeps: you can't really say it's a web runtime ;)17:59
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arc_matthe best programming language is the one that gets "the job" done18:00
arc_matthe best programming language is also the one you know best18:00
arc_matthe best programming language is always the next one ;)18:00
arc_mator the only one you know18:01
arc_matawk can be an awesome programming language ;)18:01
arc_matonly bash truly stinks18:02
arc_mat:-)18:02
arc_matbut as a matter of fact, you cannot affort to just choose one and stick with it.18:03
arc_matbecause it will get you into all sorts of nasty, religious arguments18:04
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CosmoHillhi vgrade18:28
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vgradeCosmoHill, hi18:45
CosmoHillarc_mat: hehe18:46
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phaeron1jbos: hello19:13
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rcg1now this is strange.. i get a loop in building a package.. the build finishes and the log say the vm was shut down but immediately afterwards the build starts from scratch19:46
lbtwhere ?19:48
rcg1https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qca2&project=home%3Awonko19:48
rcg1in my home project the qca2 package19:49
rcg1i built the very same package already successfully in another subproject19:49
lbtwatching...19:49
rcg1it takes some seconds until the build restarts but it eventually restarts19:50
rcg1can you see it?19:53
rcg1its using a different builder each time19:53
lbtERROR:root:code for hash md5 was not found.19:53
rcg1anything i can do about this?19:53
lbtit is really odd that it builds fine in a subproj19:54
rcg1well, i use a different repository in that subproject19:54
lbtdifferent build then :)19:55
lbtthe repo provides all the build-deps19:55
lbtit should not be happening though19:55
lbtSage: ping19:55
lbttail end of a build againstCE_MW_MTF_CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl  : https://gist.github.com/277739319:56
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Sagelbt: pong19:59
lbthave you seen an error like that before?19:59
Sageyes, filed a bug about it19:59
lbt:)20:00
Sageit is the python 2.7 update20:00
Sagenot fatal20:00
lbtseems to be causing rebuild loop here20:00
Sagehttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34920:00
Sageoh, well then it is more serious.20:00
rcg1hmm i am not sure if this error causes the loop20:02
lbtother than that the build seems to be OK doesn't it?20:02
rcg1actually i am pretty sure, looking at my other successful builds20:02
rcg1there the error is as well20:03
rcg1but they succeeded and do not loop20:03
rcg1https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qca2&project=home%3Awonko%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared20:03
rcg1see yourself there20:04
rcg1let me try another thing.. this is a new version of the qca2 package.. yesterday i already had another version build fine.. also in my home project20:05
rcg1i will try that again and see what happens20:06
lbtI cant see that it should matter20:06
rcg1yeah, me neither, just checking20:07
rcg1same result20:13
rcg1could it be that the diskspace is full or that there are other issues when it is trying to move the files to the download repository?20:13
rcg1and because the results show not up outside of the vm as expected it keeps triggering rebuilds?20:14
rcg1that's quite far fetched admittedly20:14
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rcg1hmm.. do you think this is because of something i did or is the obs having issues?20:19
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lbtno obvious obs issues20:36
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lbtrcg1: mmm you deleted the working project?20:46
lbtI was looking at the build log :)20:46
rcg1lbt: oh my.. yeah i did20:46
rcg1tried to clean everything up to ensure its not my mess causing issues20:47
lbtno, it shouldn't be able to do this20:47
lbtI think build is returning a fail20:48
lbtprobably due to the rpmlint issue20:48
rcg1i see.. i also set up a Test subproject in which i tested if the "old configuration" works but this now also shows the same issue20:49
rcg1might be that this issue just started after the package in the other subproject succeeded to build?20:50
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rcg1hmm it seems to be a general issue indeed..20:51
rcg1lbt: i just restarted another package that worked before.. this one also loops.. it very shortly shows "dispatching" after the build has finished but then jumps back to "building" immediately20:52
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lbtphaeron1: X-Fade: I don't suppose you did anything to OBS in the last 7hours?20:54
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lbtrcg1: I don't think it's your build20:56
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rcg1lbt: i see20:57
rcg1i was already worried i could have messed things up.. today i kinda have my head elsewhere20:58
rcg1maybe someone else in here has a correctly built package against mer?20:58
rcg1then it would be possible to save the log of the correct build, trigger a rebuild and compare these logs.20:58
lbtnah20:58
lbtI'm logged into the worker directly now20:59
rcg1ah alright20:59
lbt"rpc failed: socket write: Broken pipe"20:59
lbtnot good20:59
lbtnot helpful either :/20:59
phaeron1lbt: notme20:59
lbtphaeron1: something's odd21:00
lbthttps://gist.github.com/277779021:00
lbtsomething has died - srcserver or ???21:00
lbtyep 2-05-23 20:57:34: build finished 'okular' for project 'Project:KDE:Devel' repository 'MeeGo_1.2_OSS'  has the same prob21:01
phaeron1lbt: check ntp time sync21:03
lbtgood idea21:04
lbtbe was an hour out21:05
lbtlooks like that was it21:07
rcg1ah yes21:07
rcg1that seems to have fixed it21:07
lbtphaeron1: I think adam got fed up with the ntp alerts and turned off ntp21:08
lbtmmm kicked all the workers and rebooted 7 ...21:10
lbtrcg1: thanks for alerting me21:10
lbtI admit I was tempted to say "tomorrow" :)21:11
rcg1lbt: you're welcome :)21:11
rcg1hehe, and i would have completely understood this, assuming you are also GMT+1 ;)21:11
lbtyup21:12
lbtyou UK too ?21:12
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rcg1germany21:12
lbtclose21:12
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phaeron1lbt: what alerts21:13
rcg1ah we are even gmt+2 in summer :)21:14
lbtphaeron1: we used to get nagios alerts21:14
lbt16 Aug 09:52:08 ntpd[12796]: ntpd exiting on signal 1521:15
lbt:/21:15
phaeron1I hope connman does it better :D21:16
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lbtI wonder if ntp.meego.com is down21:17
lbtactually ntp is running21:17
lbtbut suse looks like it just stopped logging :/21:17
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rcg1lbt: i am afraid the issue is there again21:30
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lbtrcg1: looking21:34
rcg1ah now one package succeeded21:35
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rcg1yes, now they succeed one after another21:36
rcg1lbt: thanks :)21:36
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rcg1Sage: finally, i tested the latest versions of qca and qca-ossl. they also work with my application. i submitted qca2 and qca-ossl. in my subproject they built successfully for all repos in CE:MW:Shared22:02
rcg1i also made a package for qca-gnupg. however, i have no application to test the package with.22:03
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Sc0rpiusno SMS app for the current Nemo build?23:55

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