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| Bostik | aaaaaaaaaagh, packaging just wayland is not enough; need xkbcommon too... | 04:14 |
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| Bostik | ...grrrlll, I don't feel like building yacc to get build-deps for xkbcommon... | 04:42 |
| Stskeeps | we dont have xkcbcommon already? | 04:58 |
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| Bostik | apparently not, I got 'unresolvable' in monitor status and that was the reason in tooltip | 05:00 |
| Bostik | ah well, qtwayland at least can be built without xkbcommon | 05:00 |
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| E-P | Morning | 05:01 |
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| timoph | morn | 05:01 |
| E-P | timoph: how is Diablo 3 going? | 05:02 |
| timoph | pretty well :) | 05:02 |
| timoph | lvl 40 | 05:03 |
| E-P | nice :) | 05:03 |
| Sc0rpius | I didn't know there was a Diablo 3 | 05:03 |
| timoph | was released last week | 05:04 |
| Sc0rpius | that's why. | 05:04 |
| Sc0rpius | how much for the digital copy? | 05:04 |
| timoph | 59e if you buy it from battlenet | 05:04 |
| timoph | retailers are a bit cheaper | 05:05 |
| Sc0rpius | hmm :/ | 05:05 |
| timoph | it has drm that requires internet connection all the time while playing. internet connection breaks, game stops | 05:07 |
| E-P | starter edition should come in a month, you can try the D3 for free then | 05:08 |
| Stskeeps | ' | 05:09 |
| Stskeeps | 'first one is free' ;) | 05:09 |
| timoph | yep. afaik it's the same thing the beta was | 05:09 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: yes :) | 05:09 |
| timoph | exactly. contains the first part of act I | 05:09 |
| timoph | and has a low level cap | 05:09 |
| E-P | the same thing with kindle, try samples for free and usually you "have" to buy the rest | 05:10 |
| timoph | yep | 05:10 |
| Sc0rpius | I wonder if people here is running some kind of Mer in an N900? | 05:10 |
| Sc0rpius | and I also wonder if U-Boot and Backupmenu can live together. | 05:10 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: heh, seems you're right, no libxkbcommon | 05:11 |
| timoph | that is called Nemo mobile :) | 05:11 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah so I heard | 05:11 |
| timoph | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120517.1.NEMO.2012-05-21.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900/ | 05:11 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://build.meego.com/package/files?package=libxkbcommon&project=devel%3Awayland .. byacc should be in mer | 05:11 |
| * timoph is just downloading it | 05:12 | |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: oh, there's worse - qtplatformsupport (from qtbase) does not provide libQtPlatformSupport.so so qtwayland linking fails :) | 05:12 |
| Bostik | this is somewhat interesting... | 05:13 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah but I still need a Class 10 microSD of more than 4GB | 05:14 |
| * timoph is having problems with screen focus (forgot glasses home) | 05:14 | |
| Sc0rpius | and I still need to know if installing U-Boot will crash Backupmenu or something | 05:14 |
| Stskeeps | Sc0rpius: class6 or more is ok | 05:14 |
| Stskeeps | Sc0rpius: you can also load u-boot through flasher | 05:14 |
| Stskeeps | which is less destructive | 05:14 |
| Sc0rpius | hmm | 05:15 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: well, you probably also need wayland support in mesa | 05:16 |
| Stskeeps | thence the base layers first :) | 05:16 |
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| Bostik | aye, 'tis a pain in the arse | 05:17 |
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| iekku | morning | 05:18 |
| Bostik | please at least tell me we have mesa with wayland support already available | 05:19 |
| Bostik | although 'pkgconfig(wayland-egl)' seems to be missing... | 05:20 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: wayland 0.85 first, then i'd enable it :) | 05:22 |
| Stskeeps | then the qtwayland stuff comes after | 05:22 |
| Bostik | coming up | 05:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:22 |
| Bostik | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=wayland&project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 | 05:22 |
| Bostik | first variant which actually builds | 05:23 |
| Bostik | I'll do the weston (wayland-demos) only sometime later when that has been properly vetted | 05:23 |
| Stskeeps | i'll try to find time to merge rest of alpha1 during today as well | 05:23 |
| Bostik | some of the packaging is still bit of a mess in there but I'll try to find time to clean it up before alpha2 gets tagged | 05:25 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:25 |
| Sleepy_Coder | lbt: Oh yes, I was going to ask you about pics from SF -- as soon as I got home I had the undying need to photoshop Sage's face onto barnyard animals :D | 05:29 |
| * Stskeeps blinks and steps backwards quietly | 05:29 | |
| Sleepy_Coder | Just be thankful you weren't in our pics :p | 05:29 |
| iekku | sounds interesting | 05:34 |
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| Sleepy_Coder | lbt: I can think of various ways to break what I gave you :o Not sure if it would be better to require that if a .sbrules exists, it must define all the rules, not overlay the standard ones. In the 2nd link I gave to you I showed how you would go about modifying the existing rules, where you must *avoid* creating new tables from scratch but work with the tables already there :> That's the biggest invitation for problems.. It | 05:36 |
| Sleepy_Coder | would make me feel better if it were required that the user maybe copy an example ruleset to their ~/.sbrules so they know entirely where each rule is defined and where else it is referenced -- otherwise what I gave you should work. >.> | 05:36 |
| Sleepy_Coder | though it'd be even cooler if you defined the path to your own complete ruleset with something in the env like export SBRULES='/path/to/sbrules.lua' | 05:37 |
| Sleepy_Coder | Not sure what is the most "correct" way to pass around configs for scratchbox :> | 05:38 |
| Bostik | right, xkbcommon-devel appears to work (qtwayland build does not complain about *that* item) | 05:40 |
| Sc0rpius | I think I can load Mer using Bootmenu and not U-Boot | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sc0rpius: nah, bootmenu isn't supported | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | you use u-boot, simple as that | 05:44 |
| Sc0rpius | :( | 05:44 |
| Sc0rpius | but I use Backupmenu which uses Bootmenu, and I don't think I can have both | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | the rest of the mixes end up in bad problems | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sc0rpius: just flasher -l -k u-boot.bin -b and you'll be fine | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | and it'll one-time load uboot | 05:45 |
| Sc0rpius | from the device? | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | no, from a pc to the device | 05:45 |
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| Sc0rpius | ok | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | huomenta jukka :) | 05:45 |
| Sc0rpius | the device has the flasher executable, dunno why. | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but not for kernel loading | 05:46 |
| Sc0rpius | that's why I was thinking it was weird | 05:46 |
| Sc0rpius | anyway I was asking because there's this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Bootmenu | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | that's ancient | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | ignore most things on /Mer/ | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | we're on wiki.merproject.org now | 05:47 |
| Sc0rpius | do you guys also use scratchbox for development? | 05:50 |
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| Stskeeps | sb2, not sb1 | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | and mostly we use OBS | 05:54 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: when I use mic to create image, how can I know what rpm package I have installed? I just use log info, but not the detail info | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: there's a parameter that records packages to a .packages file | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | can't recall the parameter right now | 05:57 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: --record-pkgs=RECORD_PKGS? | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | --record-pkgs=packages | 05:59 |
| Bostik | testing an update for qtbase packaging | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: just noticed qtdeclarative submission didn't actually break in compile or dependency testing.. so re-testing it | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | no wonder i couldnt find out it's missing deps | 06:01 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: qt5-qtplatformsupport-devel did not contain /usr/lib/libQtPlatformSupport.a and (oddly enough), rpmlint never complained about installed-but-unpackaged files; according to build log the file *IS* placed in libdir though | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps you need %define keep_static 1 | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | or however it was | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | so it doesn't remove static libs | 06:03 |
| Bostik | we'll see soon | 06:03 |
| Sleepy_Coder | damn... it isn't breaking, continue testing until it breaks. >8D | 06:03 |
| Bostik | perhaps static libs aren't considered real files unless they have been explicitly listed in %files ? | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | nah, it's more that unless we explicitly tell it to, it will be removing *.a where it can find it | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | because static libs are normally really bad news in a packaging setting | 06:04 |
| Bostik | aye | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | %define keepstatic 1 | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | in top of spec | 06:05 |
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| Bostik | ah, now it looks better | 06:35 |
| Bostik | qtwayland fails to link due to missing wayland-egl and nothing else, so the platformsupport-devel change was obviously correct | 06:35 |
| Bostik | I'll toss the updates to :Qt5:Devel when all the builds are done | 06:36 |
| Bostik | feel free to pick xkbcommon and wayland packages to proper mer-projects :) | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: will do | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | just getting qtdeclarative in first | 06:43 |
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| harbaum | has anyone received his nokia provided rasp pi yet? | 07:21 |
| harbaum | they claim to have sold nearly 200.000 pieces by now. | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | nop, i think they're possibly backlogged | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | i got one from RS online in 7 days though | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | which was outside qtonpi | 07:22 |
| harbaum | ah ... so much for "one of the first batch is reserved for you" | 07:22 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I create a new image with my qtmobility, but qtmediahub cannot boot up anymore. this is the .xsession-erros http://pastie.org/3948637, any idea for this? | 07:22 |
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| harbaum | not that i urgently need one. but that's not the most clever pr i've seen | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: yeah.. | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: though i think that it's bad to complain about gifts, personally - frankly i think a lot of assumptions the r-pi foundation had went totally out the window | 07:23 |
| harbaum | yeah, i am really not complaining also for the reason you mention. Still it's not clever ... | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think the qtonpi people are terribly happy about the situation either :) | 07:24 |
| harbaum | i'd think so | 07:25 |
| harbaum | i wuld think that quim is quite annoyed | 07:25 |
| harbaum | btw: i should check quims blog ... i wonder what he's doing these days | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | qt-project and a fair bit of it | 07:26 |
| sroedal | harbaum: I think they got mixed messages from the r-pi guys, but yeah, like Stskeeps says, can't really blame them either | 07:27 |
| sroedal | harbaum: you can follow him on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/quimgil :) | 07:29 |
| harbaum | i am too old for twitter :-) | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | and simple business.. 250 r-pi's vs big distributors cashing in 200.000 pieces.. | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | priorities change | 07:29 |
| sroedal | now, the vivaldi has been a bit delayed as well :/ | 07:30 |
| harbaum | sure | 07:30 |
| sroedal | hope I get it before qtcs at least | 07:30 |
| harbaum | and in the end that's what we want: if such a device has a massive break through, then all the projects on top also benefit | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | sroedal: i can bring two r-pi's if need be, provided it's after 12 on the first day ;) | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | if you need to demo something | 07:30 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: I meant the vivaldi :) | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | i don't have one of those ;) | 07:31 |
| sroedal | I was lucky enough to get a r-pi prototype to do some eglfs / wayland hacking | 07:31 |
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| Stskeeps | we should really do a llvmpipe-on-framebuffer-with-wayland version of qtonpi runnable in virtualbox | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | that could make some people's development easier | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | or just eglfs | 07:35 |
| sroedal | qtwayland abstracts the buffer sharing mechanism, so llvmpipe with wayland-egl should work quite fine | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:36 |
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| slaine | morning guys | 07:46 |
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| Stskeeps | morn slaine o/ | 07:49 |
| slaine | Nice to see Falcon9 lift off | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | hm? | 07:52 |
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| slaine | SpaceX launch was postponed the other day 'til just a few mins ago | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | ahcool | 07:55 |
| slaine | traveling at 3 km/sec | 07:55 |
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| Sage | lbt: is it possible to run X application from sdk? | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | it is | 07:57 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3948744 ? | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | used to work for me | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | xhost + ? | 07:58 |
| Sage | ? | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | at least i had testrunner working in there | 07:58 |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/3948751 | 08:00 |
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| slaine | Do I need to download a new version of the SDK or should the zypper ref/dup cycle always work ? Getting a dependency error with mic and Python | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | zypper ref/up should really work | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | you may need to change to /latest/ in mer link though | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | ask lbt when he's on | 08:04 |
| slaine | k, cheers | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | victory | 08:09 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3948807 python update issue? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's what i think | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | can you file a bug please? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | not fatal | 08:21 |
| Sage | sure | 08:22 |
| Sage | against python or rpmlint? | 08:22 |
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| Stskeeps | rpmlint-mini i think | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/sb2-b1-obs-victory.txt is what i meant by victory earlier btw | 08:22 |
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| Stskeeps | proper cross compilation environment setup with sb2, b1's cross patches and obs | 08:25 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Did you notice that it does the vm setup twice? | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: hehe :) | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: it sets up X86 side preinstalls, then ARM side preinstalls, then X86 side installs, then ARM side installs | 08:26 |
| X-Fade | Ah :) | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, i noticed the fact it makes armv7el rpms | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | but that's besides the point | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:27 |
| X-Fade | :) | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | it means you can without black magic set up the x86 side with x86 packages, with ease | 08:27 |
| X-Fade | I noticed that for .debs the build script actually does the vm setup twice. | 08:27 |
| X-Fade | So that is why I got triggered about that. | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | it isn't very clear what it sets up and when, agreed | 08:28 |
| X-Fade | "sb2-init: Creating Debian build system settings for this target" :P | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 08:29 |
| X-Fade | But it looks good. And the time at the bottom is promising ;) | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | this is even the unoptimized sb2 build | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | sroedal: since you might run into that on the slogan thread, llvmpipe does not actually work on ARM it seems | 09:05 |
| sroedal | Stskeeps: right, not yet, I believe there are proprietary software GL implementations you can buy if necessary though | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: though not on all chipsets | 09:06 |
| sroedal | and really, just get OpenGL acceleration if you want QML 2 :) | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | it was one of the things i ran into by accident at some point | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | llvmpipe probably works on mips though :P | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | which is a bizarre situation | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok, back to hacking obs.. | 09:07 |
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| lbt | Sage: what tools did you want in SDK ? | 09:43 |
| lbt | slaine: ping re SDK update | 09:43 |
| slaine | lbt, yup | 09:44 |
| lbt | so I think the existing SDKs use http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/ | 09:44 |
| lbt | which is a symlink to the latest repos | 09:44 |
| slaine | I'll check mine | 09:45 |
| lbt | so update will always get you .... latest :) | 09:45 |
| lbt | this is simple but can be confusing | 09:45 |
| lbt | also Tools doesn't do releases yet :/ | 09:45 |
| lbt | so you're permanently pointed at ':Testing' which is ... suboptimal ... given we randomly throw code there to do test builds | 09:46 |
| lbt | I'm working on redeploying all that at the moment | 09:46 |
| lbt | but it's sunny .... | 09:46 |
| slaine | lbt, yeah, mer-tools-testing-i486.repo is the only one not pointing to latest | 09:47 |
| lbt | so zypper ref/up should work | 09:48 |
| Sage | lbt: well, I'm building those in one of my branches atm. | 09:49 |
| Sage | lbt: see https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting | 09:50 |
| Sage | missing a lot though but a start which isn't tested yet either :) | 09:50 |
| lbt | OK - and anything else? | 09:51 |
| lbt | I fixed git (removed rsync dep) | 09:51 |
| E-P | let's have a topic in the next QA meeting about QA tools and OBS: where the tools should be located and do we support other platforms | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, makes sense | 09:52 |
| Sage | not really need to test those and see how it goes. | 09:52 |
| Sage | E-P: when is the next meeting btw? | 09:52 |
| E-P | next Thursday at 12 UTC | 09:53 |
| Sage | 24th? | 09:53 |
| E-P | yes | 09:53 |
| Sage | ok | 09:53 |
| * Stskeeps will be at driver lessons sadly | 09:54 | |
| Bostik | happy honking | 09:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: try what the instructor says when you type to IRC at the same time than driving? ;) | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: one of my instructors was translating what to say on android's google translate app.. | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:55 |
| Sage | :D | 09:56 |
| lbt | Sage: kickstarter ? | 09:56 |
| Sage | lbt: well that to SDK would be nice, however we need to sync the patches. I'm not sure if Stskeeps has some patches and if that branch contains the patches I have | 09:57 |
| lbt | no, that's in there | 09:57 |
| Sage | hmmp... maybe should ask a commit right to that git tree as well... | 09:57 |
| lbt | it's "mer-kickstarter" | 09:57 |
| Sage | oh | 09:57 |
| Sage | where is that tree? | 09:57 |
| Sage | I'm using sages-kickstarter ;) | 09:58 |
| lbt | *g* | 09:58 |
| lbt | "osc copypac from project:home:stskeeps:tools package:mer-kickstarter revision:6" | 09:58 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=mer-kickstarter&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 09:59 |
| lbt | just random code... :D | 09:59 |
| Sage | where is the upstream git tree for that? :) | 09:59 |
| lbt | dunno yet - that's why I'm doing this... | 09:59 |
| lbt | the spec says : URL: http://www.merproject.org | 10:00 |
| lbt | :/ | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/sb2-b1-obs-victory.txt | 10:09 |
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| lbt | ... | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | do you need explanation? | 10:15 |
| lbt | reading | 10:15 |
| lbt | sb2 cross build of binutils | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:18 |
| lbt | sb2 prep as part of the init? | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | and the x86 parts and arm parts are set up in a proper way | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | ie, x86 rpms, not a huge blob | 10:19 |
| lbt | so rpm preinstall and then chrooted rpm into sb2 root ? | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | rpm preinstall for both x86 and arm, start up vm, configure x86 side, initialize sb2 for arm target, install arm packages | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | do build in arm target with sb2 | 10:20 |
| lbt | suggestion ... ammend the "[20/32] preinstalling readline..." to "[20/32] [sb2] preinstalling readline..." | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | or simply [target] | 10:20 |
| lbt | yeah | 10:21 |
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| * Stskeeps adds todo | 10:21 | |
| Stskeeps | this was b1 stuff, so | 10:21 |
| lbt | it's a tad confusing as to what's going where | 10:21 |
| lbt | also some "phase 3 : target preparation" echo :) | 10:21 |
| lbt | nice though :) | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | it was really simple on top of the transparent cross compile stuff | 10:22 |
| lbt | hehe ... I wish the copyprj had been :) | 10:23 |
| lbt | OK ... gotta go to doctors ... bbiab | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | seeya | 10:23 |
| Sage | E-P: much experience about qttas? | 10:25 |
| E-P | Sage: some | 10:25 |
| Sage | ok, so if I start qttas-server on device and then qttas_ui it should show something and connect right? | 10:26 |
| E-P | yes, and try the load plugins, it should find something too | 10:26 |
| Sage | ui starts fine but the server just doesn't do anything | 10:26 |
| Sage | it stops silently after starting | 10:27 |
| E-P | hmm.. the server tries to create logs to /logs/testability | 10:27 |
| Sage | nemo 509 0.2 0.0 0 0 ? Z 04:25 0:00 [qttasserver] <defunct> | 10:27 |
| E-P | (at least on the desktops) | 10:27 |
| Sage | /logs/testability to the root? | 10:27 |
| E-P | yep :) | 10:27 |
| Sage | hmmp | 10:28 |
| Sage | ah, one thing that I need to add to the packaging :) | 10:29 |
| E-P | do you get any logs from the server? | 10:30 |
| Sage | now when the dir is there I get there some logs yes :) | 10:31 |
| Sage | just a sec | 10:31 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3949210 | 10:31 |
| E-P | do you have anything else running in that port? | 10:33 |
| Sage | no http://pastie.org/3949217 | 10:35 |
| Sage | E-P: any ideas? | 10:37 |
| E-P | From QLocalSocket: On Unix if the server crashes without closing listen will fail with AddressInUseError. | 10:38 |
| E-P | IIRC the server creates the file to /tmp/qttas* | 10:38 |
| E-P | try to remove the file and start the server again | 10:38 |
| Sage | there is no /tmp/qt* files | 10:38 |
| E-P | just a sec, I will check something | 10:41 |
| E-P | is it in the /var/tmp/? | 10:42 |
| Sage | no | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | /run ? | 10:44 |
| Sage | ah | 10:44 |
| Sage | here /var/tmp/qttasserver_pipe | 10:44 |
| E-P | anything new in the logs when you start the server again? | 10:45 |
| Sage | yey now it runs | 10:46 |
| E-P | great | 10:47 |
| Sage | and ui works as well | 10:47 |
| Sage | nice | 10:47 |
| Sage | and also this is now the 1.5.3 version I update the package | 10:47 |
| E-P | great | 10:47 |
| E-P | try some qt application can use the tdriver plugin | 10:48 |
| Sage | now time to try the tddriver on sdk | 10:48 |
| E-P | using ruby scripts or tdriver_visualizer? | 10:49 |
| Sage | lets see :) | 10:49 |
| Sage | ruby scripts seem to work :) | 10:51 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3949281 <- moves the lock on the lockscreen | 10:52 |
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| Sage | coudn't get the visualizer to start yet though | 10:52 |
| Sage | can't connect to X server. | 10:53 |
| E-P | that is already a big step if the ruby scripts are working | 10:54 |
| Sage | just would need to package the stuff. it is just manually hacked on my sdk atm. | 10:54 |
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| E-P | any idea how is maintaining the tdriver now days? | 10:55 |
| Sage | no | 10:56 |
| Sage | touched first time this thing yesterday :D | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | who wrote it first? | 10:56 |
| E-P | Nokia has maintained it for long time, but I don't know if they are still doing that | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:57 |
| E-P | but at least the upstream project is active | 10:57 |
| hhurtta | is there any recommended software configurations for building images? I've been trying to follow http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Creating_Releases in order to build images for N950. The builder script fails miserably with nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950 giving crapload of qemu segfaults | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | hhurtta: are you using Mer Platform SDK? | 10:57 |
| hhurtta | been no | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | ok, then you should | 10:58 |
| hhurtta | i think i had even worse results there but i'll give it another try | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | from there on we can debug easier | 10:58 |
| Sage | hhurtta: those qemu segfaults are because of qemu otherwise your process is probably ok. I had the same problem with my opensuse and then moved to mer sdk and it just works :) | 10:59 |
| * Sage thanks lbt again for his work on the sdk.. | 10:59 | |
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| Sage | E-P: currently the testability-driver-host is a huge hack as it uses gem to install stuff which in general can't be uninstalled as those files are not in the package. | 11:02 |
| Sage | I wonder if all of those are actually needed atm. or not | 11:02 |
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| E-P | Sage: I don't know ruby so well, but I think there should be some nicer way of doing packaking than using gem | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | hhurtta: let me know the moment you hit qemu errors in sdk, it simply shouldn't happen(TM) | 11:04 |
| E-P | like gem --install /path/ | 11:04 |
| lbt | back | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | wb | 11:05 |
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| hhurtta | Stskeeps: mmkay :) | 11:05 |
| lbt | release mgmt meeting? | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: sure | 11:05 |
| lbt | not got much myself but :) | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | just good to sync | 11:06 |
| E-P | Sage: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Ruby#RubyGems | 11:06 |
| lbt | Sage: :) | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Release management meeting in #mer-meeting NOW | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, you'll chair? | 11:07 |
| E-P | Sage: and the Tdriver driver has debian package configurations, maybe they will help | 11:08 |
| Sage | E-P: ok, so what I should do is just cut all deps and package gems as I need them | 11:08 |
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| Stskeeps | hello zhxt :) | 11:10 |
| zhxt | hi, Stskeeps | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 11:11 |
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| E-P | Sage: http://gitorious.org/tdriver/driver/blobs/master/rubygem-testability-driver.spec | 11:11 |
| zhxt | I just come here to see what's going on :) | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt: sure :) if you have any questions, you can ask them at any time, else feel free to hang out :) | 11:12 |
| zhxt | yes, Thanks a lot! | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | what do you hope to use Mer for, if i may ask? | 11:14 |
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| zhxt | I have no idea. I'm just very interested in Meego before. | 11:15 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: http://www.tizenexperts.com/2012/05/htc-planning-tizen-based-devices-2012-release/ | 11:15 |
| zhxt | So, some time i'm coming to see what is happening about Meego/Mer :) | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt: sure :) | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: yeah, i didn't see any htc engineers around | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | usually a bad sign | 11:16 |
| lbt | mdfe_: slaine: you tracking the release mgmt meeting ... eg notes on api breaks and schedules | 11:16 |
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| slaine | nope | 11:18 |
| slaine | I'll catch the logs | 11:18 |
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| Sage | E-P: this will be er... fun | 11:22 |
| Sleepy_Coder | Sage: cool ruby example :o | 11:23 |
| Sage | Sleepy_Coder: not done by me. | 11:24 |
| Sage | but thx ;) | 11:24 |
| Sleepy_Coder | that's the problem with open-source development, not enough people willing to take the credit of others ;) | 11:25 |
| * w00t is happy to take any unallocated credit | 11:26 | |
| Sleepy_Coder | you only get buttplugs. | 11:26 |
| E-P | Sage: always, same with the python :) | 11:26 |
| Sleepy_Coder | w00t: maybe I should say, taking unallocated credit is good, because a credit leak would also be bad :o | 11:27 |
| Sage | E-P: what confuses me is that those .spec files talk about the .gem file that is not in the git tree | 11:39 |
| Sage | to me it seems that .gem files are binaries compile from source X and in meego they used straig .gem files and didn't compile those | 11:40 |
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| E-P | yes, gems are ruby's own package format and the gem --install creates them from the source | 11:43 |
| lbt | eek | 11:43 |
| lbt | gems | 11:43 |
| E-P | Sage: hmm.. sorry, the gem --install tries to install from the gem file | 11:44 |
| Sleepy_Coder | gems, eggs, rocks, pickles, modules, .. | 11:44 |
| lbt | rpms? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | debs, don't forget debs | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:45 |
| E-P | Sage: rake is ruby's make http://gitorious.org/tdriver/driver/blobs/master/update | 11:45 |
| Sleepy_Coder | :] | 11:46 |
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| mdfe_ | lbt: hi, what is about notes on api breaks and schedules? | 11:59 |
| lbt | mdfe_: connman api changes in upcoming mer-next | 11:59 |
| mdfe_ | in current mer next? | 12:00 |
| lbt | we'll mention it in release notes but it's also the kind of thing we discuss in release mgmt | 12:00 |
| lbt | not todays | 12:00 |
| lbt | right now next=core | 12:00 |
| mdfe_ | ok | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-05-22-11.07.html | 12:01 |
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| lbt | iirc though PA doesn't use connman ? | 12:01 |
| * lbt goes back to work ... via lunch | 12:03 | |
| * Stskeeps goes prep for driving lessons | 12:03 | |
| Sage | Stskeeps: driving to the lesson? ;) | 12:07 |
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| alterego | Sage: it's golf, he needs to practise his driving :P | 12:12 |
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| Sage | alterego: hi there :) | 12:14 |
| szymon | hi guys:) question to SPEC/RPM - Release Tag in build.pub.meego.com: how can I force Release Tag in build process? it is increased automatically, is there a way to avoid this? | 12:16 |
| alterego | Sage: hey :) | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | szymon: you don't really touch Release tag, it's used in a different manner in OBS | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | Release tag gets transformed into <CHECK IN COUNT>.<REBUILD COUNT> | 12:18 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: hmm, reason why i need this is: | 12:19 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: I build my kernel module yestarday against kernel-adaptation-pc x86 but the version of image kernel is 3.0.0-1.12 and my local 3.0.0-11.1 already. So when installing it goes to the wrong directory and does not get loaded. | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | szymon: if kernel-adaptation-pc is a linkpac or branch this really shouldn't happen.. | 12:21 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: i branched the kernel-adaptation-pc, in my package it says: This package links to the package kernel-adaptation-pc of.... | 12:23 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: so I guess it is ok. | 12:23 |
| szymon | hmm. | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | szymon: by those version numbers it should be picking 3.0.0-11.1 in your images | 12:23 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: that is exactly the problem it picks up 11.1 and not 1.12. | 12:23 |
| szymon | which is the version of kernel of the latest images. | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | your version on OBS is 1.12 ? | 12:24 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: the other way around. Official version is 1.12 and my branched version with the patch you gave me yestarday is 11.1 already and increasing when I build it. | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: regarding driving to lesson, no, but i thought GTA and Need For Speed would be good practice | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | ;0 | 12:25 |
| Sage | ;) | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | szymon: yes, so it should take your version in branch | 12:26 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: and that is exactely the problem :( afterwards when installing the kernel module it installs it not into /lib/modues/1.12 but /lib/modules/11.1 directory. | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | szymon: wtf | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | show me your OBS project? | 12:27 |
| szymon | :P | 12:27 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: again slowly: | 12:27 |
| szymon | my project is: | 12:28 |
| szymon | home:simonbolek:branches:CE:Adaptation:x86-generic | 12:28 |
| szymon | there is kernel-adaptation-pc package. | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok, wasn't 100% sure if it was you ;) | 12:28 |
| szymon | Stskeeps; yes my simon nickname is always taken and i do not like those ____ | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:30 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: so in this package I applied in SPEC file the patch you gave me directly and built the package. BUT this package gets a new Release tag. | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | OK, so, upon a image creation, it should pick up your kernel-adaptation-pc 3.0.0-11.1 and your aci-controller-driver which will put into /lib/modules/11.1 | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | 3.0.0-11.1-adaptation-pc specifically | 12:31 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: ok, this is the only way I guess. | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | well, that's how it will go logically | 12:32 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: my dumb thinking was I can stay with the release version 1.12 | 12:32 |
| * lbt watches Release: problem.... | 12:32 | |
| Stskeeps | it'll pick the highest version, and aci-controller-driver is built against 11.1 | 12:32 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: yes ok, I just have to watch for other kernel patches from this time on. | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes, just put them in your own copy of kernel-adaptation-pc | 12:34 |
| szymon | Stskeep: thank you again | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | np | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | how's the demo preperations going? | 12:36 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: going well, this was the milestone i brought to show it with the controller, so after work today I deploy the controller and daemons to read its messages and test with the application. | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | szymon: good :) | 12:38 |
| szymon | Stskeeps: yo, another long night ;) | 12:39 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: integrating openssl.. | 12:57 |
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| mdfe_ | lbt: sorry for maybe silly questions, but I really wonder about a diff between build numbers of architectures | 13:30 |
| mdfe_ | I have the strange feeling that rebuilds for arm get skipped | 13:31 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: if you take a look on following URLs you will see a diff between build numbers | 13:32 |
| mdfe_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=calligra&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel&repository=CE_UX_PlasmaActive_armv7l | 13:32 |
| mdfe_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=calligra&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel&repository=CE_UX_PlasmaActive_i586 | 13:32 |
| mdfe_ | I updated a dependency, then the build status for arm target get on 'blocked' | 13:34 |
| mdfe_ | after five minutes the status told me the build status 'succeeded' | 13:35 |
| mdfe_ | but the arm build takes normaly about 50 minutes | 13:35 |
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| mdfe_ | I have a really bad feeling about this | 13:37 |
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| lbt | mdfe_: I'll take a look | 13:41 |
| lbt | what dependency did you update? | 13:41 |
| mdfe_ | okular | 13:42 |
| lbt | mmm | 13:42 |
| lbt | %ifarch %{ix86} | 13:43 |
| lbt | BuildRequires: okular-devel | 13:43 |
| mdfe_ | arg | 13:43 |
| lbt | %endif | 13:43 |
| mdfe_ | I see | 13:43 |
| mdfe_ | m) | 13:43 |
| lbt | :) | 13:43 |
| mdfe_ | sorry my fault | 13:43 |
| lbt | always worth a sanity check | 13:43 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 13:44 |
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| damiano | hello | 14:03 |
| lbt | hey damiano | 14:04 |
| damiano | I'm trying to install a meego image on HP Touchpad | 14:06 |
| dm8tbr | what sort of image? | 14:06 |
| dm8tbr | what is your goal? | 14:06 |
| damiano | my goal? | 14:07 |
| damiano | I'd like to have an usable meego/maemo/cordia... on the touchpad | 14:07 |
| damiano | anyone could help me? | 14:08 |
| dm8tbr | ok... so you're trying Mer + Cordia? | 14:08 |
| damiano | I tried a meego image for N900 | 14:09 |
| damiano | I followed this guide http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/Touchpad | 14:10 |
| damiano | kernel loads but X doesn't start | 14:11 |
| damiano | :-( | 14:11 |
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| damiano | I don't know how to go on | 14:12 |
| damiano | maybe image for n900 is not good at the purpose | 14:14 |
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| smoku | did you take a look at Xorg.log? maybe it tells you what is wrong | 14:15 |
| damiano | no, I should try to mount image in webos and look... | 14:17 |
| damiano | do you think I used appropriate image? | 14:18 |
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| smoku | is touchpad OMAP3 based? | 14:20 |
| damiano | it's qualcomm snapdragon | 14:22 |
| smoku | so n900 image is not a good idea | 14:22 |
| smoku | it uses OMAP3 specific drivers | 14:22 |
| damiano | i read the log | 14:24 |
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| damiano | it tries to load fbdev... | 14:25 |
| damiano | fbdev is ok | 14:26 |
| damiano | no... | 14:26 |
| smoku | nope | 14:27 |
| smoku | it's omap's fbdev ;-) | 14:27 |
| damiano | ok error is "(EE) FBDEV(0): Unable to open overlay /dev/fb0/gfx" | 14:28 |
| damiano | did you give a look at the tutorial? | 14:30 |
| damiano | if X fails why It doesn't give me a shell? | 14:36 |
| damiano | is there anybody that could help me please? | 14:37 |
| dm8tbr | shell would need a kernel with fb-console | 14:45 |
| dm8tbr | it could bind a shell to a uart though. does the device have UART? alternatively on an OTG port | 14:45 |
| damiano | none | 14:45 |
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| damiano | it should have got fb-console... | 14:46 |
| damiano | in any case I want to understand X error | 14:47 |
| dm8tbr | then make sure init binds a getty to it | 14:47 |
| dm8tbr | that could ofc interfere with the x-server... | 14:47 |
| damiano | (EE) FBDEV(0): Unable to open overlay /dev/fb0/gfx | 14:48 |
| damiano | what does it means? I don't know what gfx overlay is | 14:49 |
| damiano | and if it is necessary | 14:49 |
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| damiano | I try to access with novaterm | 14:53 |
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| damiano | http://pastebin.com/tXNLuK53 | 15:02 |
| damiano | X.org.0.log | 15:02 |
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| damiano | where is xorg.conf? | 15:19 |
| damiano | :-( | 15:23 |
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| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=rubygem-nokogiri&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting&repository=Mer_Core_i586 | 17:26 |
| * Sage ponders what is wrong there.. | 17:26 | |
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| E-P | Sage: http://adam.younglogic.com/2010/05/found-buildroot-in-installed-files-aborting/ | 17:33 |
| E-P | "Since this is a ruby binary RPM, the correct thing to do is to move the gem install into the %build stage and then copy it into ${BUILDROOT}." | 17:34 |
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| Sage | E-P: hmmp... thx | 17:41 |
| Sage | ah, I have faced this also before, just didn't recall it :) | 17:43 |
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| E-P | did that work? | 17:44 |
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| Stskeeps | Query to everybody: how many years do you expect to have your TV, living room table, fridge, mobile phone, wardrobe (clothes) after buying it? | 19:33 |
| Sleepy_Coder | TV -> 6 years, living room table -> forever, fridge -> 15 years, mobile phone -> 3 years (honest), clothes -> 5 years | 19:34 |
| Sleepy_Coder | awkward honesty: I have clothes from highschool I bought 8 years ago that I still wear. Because I don't grow at all :( | 19:35 |
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| Stskeeps | get a wife, it helps trim the population | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | of tshirts | 19:39 |
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| ali1234 | i replace things when they break or wear out | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | if they wear out in under 5 years i get annoyed | 19:45 |
| ali1234 | also i've never bought a TV, table, fridge, or mobile phone | 19:46 |
| Bostik | I still have and use my 4y old e71, but when I need to replace I honestly don't expect the new models with touchscreens to last much longer than 2 years | 19:50 |
| Bostik | other numbers from sleepy are pretty much in range, perhaps TV is something like 5y and clothes generally see no more than 3-4y of use (some isolated exceptions go longer, such as *very good* shoes) | 19:52 |
| Bostik | and I don't think I even own socks older than ~18 months :) | 19:52 |
| jarkko^ | I haven't owned a TV after 2k7 | 19:52 |
| jarkko^ | when they switched to digital network in Finland.. | 19:53 |
| jarkko^ | TV is fairly obsolote device | 19:54 |
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| * Sage just found out about "RpmLintIgnore" feature of spectacle and is loving it. | 20:10 | |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/3951853 | 20:11 |
| Sage | changed .yaml and rest was done by spectacle | 20:11 |
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| Sleepy_Coder | Stskeeps: maybe I'll get a smartphone to call 'wifely' | 21:04 |
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| Sleepy_Coder | Her name will be Siri, and I'll call her wifely out of affection. | 21:05 |
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| Sage | hmmp | 21:09 |
| Sage | something wrong with my nokogiri gem packaging: http://pastie.org/3952135 | 21:09 |
| lbt | Sage: I'm pushing code to :Tools from Testing - any issues with spectacle? | 21:11 |
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| Sage | lbt: well haven't noted myself but it is just me :) | 21:13 |
| lbt | well, all the SDKs are tied to :Testing anyhow ... so everyone will get it on update :/ | 21:14 |
| lbt | btw did I share my cmp_src osc plugin? | 21:14 |
| lbt | produces this: https://gist.github.com/2771670 | 21:15 |
| Sage | anyone happen to have fedora 17 installed and running? | 21:19 |
| lbt | nope | 21:19 |
| Sage | I really don't understand enough about ruby to see what file is in wrong place atm. :/ | 21:20 |
| Sage | /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load such file -- nokogiri/nokogiri (LoadError) | 21:20 |
| Sage | does that mean nokogiri dir which contains nokogiri file or some nokogiri.so file+ | 21:20 |
| lbt | I'm extremely dubious about 'supporting' ruby btw... https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Albt%3Arails | 21:25 |
| lbt | I'm very seriously tempted to abandon any concept of packaging for it | 21:26 |
| Sage | oh, come on... why you have named rubygem-* packages ruby-* :D | 21:26 |
| lbt | they're all for debian | 21:27 |
| lbt | so debian packaging standards | 21:27 |
| Sage | oh | 21:27 |
| lbt | the point is similar though | 21:27 |
| lbt | ruby has got bundler | 21:27 |
| lbt | it may be a more sane approach | 21:27 |
| Sage | ok, enough for today. Time to sleep | 21:28 |
| lbt | packaging the ruby gems sucked a lot of dev time for boss | 21:28 |
| Sage | well it still does :) | 21:28 |
| lbt | so I'm just wondering if we should review how we handle ruby solutions :) | 21:28 |
| lbt | suse has a nice ruby packaging tool though | 21:29 |
| Sage | well we need to package those because using just gem to install the gems isn't good solution as one can't really uninstall/install them then properly | 21:29 |
| lbt | gem2rpm | 21:29 |
| lbt | yeah, actually it works well | 21:30 |
| Sage | uh, there is multiple websites for it and faced an very old one and didn't consider it as an option as it was like 5 years old | 21:31 |
| lbt | the suse one is fine | 21:31 |
| lbt | it's what we use for boss stuff | 21:31 |
| * Sage zzZZZZzzZzZZ | 21:31 | |
| lbt | ping me when you get back into it and I'll pastie some of the scripts :) | 21:31 |
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