Tuesday, 2012-05-15

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Stskeepsmorn04:22
dcthangmorn04:24
* Stskeeps cranks up some pet shop boys and gets the day started..04:47
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E-PMorning04:51
Stskeepsmorn E-P :)04:52
E-Phmm.. Thursday is vacation day, maybe we should have the QA meeting tomorrow04:55
Stskeepsif you avoid 11-13 finnish time, i'm in04:55
Stskeepsand 14-1504:56
Stskeeps(drivers lesson, release meeting)04:56
E-PI am busy from 8-12, so maybe late afternoon04:57
Stskeeps:nod:04:57
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iekkumorning05:18
E-Pmorning iekku05:18
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Stskeepsneed moar coffee05:19
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* timoph waves05:24
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I found gst libs in mer's latest version are still old versions, any plans for them to update ?05:35
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: we have an update waiting for 0.10.3605:38
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: yeah. I found gstreamer's latest version is 0.11.9105:39
Stskeepsthat's under development though, not stable05:39
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: yes, not stable version. because I found bugs with mpegtsdemux element, seek function not work well05:41
Stskeeps:nod:05:41
Stskeepsthere's going to come a 1.0 release05:41
Stskeepswe'll probably merge that05:41
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: hmm, I have to decide which element I will use  for mpegtsdemux05:42
ZiQiangHuanyes, I will ask this in gstreamer IRC05:43
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sonachStskeeps: Have you received my email to mer's mail-list? I am wondering whether it was sent out or not...06:18
Stskeepssonach: yes i did06:18
Stskeepsi'm planning to answer in the afternoon, after my driving lessons06:19
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Stskeepsmorn kostaja06:23
kostajamornings!06:23
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kostajai got the old cross tools built, but something seems to be broken06:23
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Stskeepsok, which problems?06:23
kostajai'm getting these:06:24
kostajapreinstalling ncurses-libs-x86-arm...06:24
kostajarunning bzip2-x86-arm postinstall script06:24
kostaja/sbin/ldconfig: /emul/ia32-linux/lib/libpopt.so.0 is for unknown machine 3.06:24
kostajasomething is not expecting arm-packages it seems?06:24
kostajathis happens when i try to use the cross tools i built. during env setup in build06:25
Stskeepshmmm06:25
Stskeepsmoment, i have to remember something06:25
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SageStskeeps, lbt: is the -next updated in cobs?07:31
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lbtSage: yes07:42
Sagemdfe_: telepathy is there now07:42
mdfe_cool thx :)07:43
lbtoh, and good morning all07:45
mdfe_good morning07:48
mdfe_Sage: CE:Adaptation:x86-generic is part of Nemo?07:51
mdfe_Sage: I'm asking because it looks like there is a issue in grubby or kernel07:52
mdfe_Sage: Updating the kernel rpm will cause a none booting system07:53
mdfe_Sage: a contributer ask me where to file a bug for this07:54
Stskeepsnemo07:55
mdfe_https://bugs.nemomobile.org/07:56
mdfe_is right?07:56
iekkuyes07:59
Sagemdfe_: there is bug already07:59
mdfe_thx07:59
Sagealso I tried to fix it but I haven't had time to debug it to the end. Help would be needed07:59
mdfe_you need help for testing?07:59
Sagemdfe_: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic08:00
dcthangSage: you've  just built telepathy is here, rite? https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=CE%3AMW%3AShared08:00
Sagehttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17908:00
Sagedcthang: yes, it is there now.08:00
Sagebtw, everything releated to CE: projects in community obs, please lets take the conversation to #nemomobile channel08:01
mdfe_Stskeeps: I'm on vacation at 18. of May08:14
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lbtafk08:20
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Sageniqt: but the organizer app works that is good :)08:24
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niqtSage: what's organizer app?08:39
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kostajaStskeeps: did you remember something? :)09:00
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sledgesta, vgrade09:07
niqtSage: on harmattan qmlorganizer has  problem. are you sure that is ok?09:07
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Termanamorning10:12
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* E-P took his laptop and went working next to the big window with a nice summery view10:15
Stskeepskostaja: sorry for running off, driving lessons10:16
Stskeepsnot good to irc during those10:16
kostaja:D10:16
Stskeepsi will be back in an hour or so10:16
kostajaok, cool10:16
Sagemdfe_: the peregrine works very nicely! Just sent a message to Stskeeps with gtalk :)10:18
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mdfe_awesome :)10:19
Sagemdfe_: any other protocols supported by it that we could easily add, btw?10:19
mdfe_other then xmpp?10:19
Sageyes, no real need I guess, just asking if there is other supported protocols.10:20
mdfe_you kown http://wiki.peregrine-communicator.org ?10:21
mdfe_http://wiki.peregrine-communicator.org/display/web/faq shows 'Currently peregrine supports Jabber, GTalk and Skype'10:23
Sageso, to get jabber and skype support what does nemo need?10:24
Sagemdfe_: -> lets move to #nemomobile channel10:24
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Stskeepslbt, lets postpone release meeting 15 mins, then i'm sure to be home10:32
lbtsure10:32
lbtSage: google contact/calendar sync ?10:32
lbtmmm -> #nemomobile10:33
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Stskeepslbt: ok, ready any time..11:07
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lbtStskeeps: sec... just helping X-Fade11:13
Stskeepsok11:13
lbtright...11:14
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lbtmdfe_: ping ... Mer Release Mgmt meeting now11:21
Stskeepskostaja: can you show me a semi-full build log of bzip2-x86 and a package that uses it?11:36
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: you said mer has an update for 0.10.36, so is there a schedule for it?11:43
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: not next release but next again11:43
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I mean gstreamer's version11:43
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: gstreamer guys told me I have to update gst libs to latest version if I want to use a good mpegtsdemux element11:44
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: http://review.merproject.org/54611:44
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: yeah, if I try to build this my self, is it a hard job for me?11:45
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: shouldn't be11:45
Stskeepsjust put it in obs11:46
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: the boring thing is BuildRequires trouble11:46
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: yeah, it's always the fun part of packaging11:47
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: if I encounter it, I always choose to comment it11:48
Stskeeps:nod: sometimes it's right, sometimes not11:48
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: hmm, I have to find the package it need ?11:48
Stskeepseither way, it shouldn't be a problem to build it11:49
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: maybe I should have a try first11:54
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kostajaStskeeps: here is bzip2-x86 http://paste.ubuntu.com/988781/11:59
kostajaand the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/988785/11:59
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Stskeepsok, let me just wrap up release meeting first12:01
Stskeeps(2pm finnish time in #mer-meeting every tuesday)12:01
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[DarkGUNMAN]I have tried Mer/Nemo once since the move to meego core, but that was quite a while back - has anyone tried Cordia with it yet, and if so have they had any success?12:05
Stskeepscordia uses mer12:05
[DarkGUNMAN]I did a guide for installing cordia when  meego de was still in use, but it looks like the repo has changed since then12:07
[DarkGUNMAN]looking at the site the development is more aimed at tablets with x86 images.. can't find anything for arm or N900 anymore12:15
timophtimoph.fi/cordia-n900.ks12:17
timophthe official n900 ks in cordia's git12:18
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timoph*is in12:18
timophhttps://github.com/Cordia/images12:19
timophthere12:19
timophif you build the image beware that it doesn't start all the needed processes to have a fully functional desktop12:22
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[DarkGUNMAN]since my N900 is my only loinux device is there a way to build it on there? I have an sdk chroot build environment if that is any use, but help would be appreciated as I have not used .ks files before... but as they say, you learn by doing12:29
timophcan be build on a virtual machine as well12:29
lbt[DarkGUNMAN]: yeah. use a VM ... building on the N900 is not a good use of time12:30
timophvm + mer platform sdk and you're set12:31
timoph(pretty much)12:31
slaine*Dramatization, may not actually happen12:31
[DarkGUNMAN]Thank you, I'll try and do a quick vm tonight, any particular distro you'd recommend?12:31
[DarkGUNMAN]:)12:31
timophshouldn't matter too much12:32
slaineI've my sdk on 12.04, but I've only used osc really12:32
SageStskeeps, lbt: I have acces to the spectacle git tree now. I talked with the current maintainers and got access. They also said that they will change it to github at some point, but we can continue the development in that tree now.12:38
Stskeepsyeah, intel has moved a load of stuff to 01.org12:38
Stskeepswhich is good12:38
SageI'm hoping that they will join to the development back at some point ;)12:38
Sageafter we make it better :P12:39
Sagephaeron: where does boss pick the spectacle it uses for tests in cobs?12:42
Stskeepskostaja: extract the rpm for bzip2-x86-arm and rpm -q --queryformat '%{POSTIN}' -p *.rpm12:49
Stskeepsosc getbinaries12:51
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kostajaStskeeps: i got this:13:09
kostaja/sbin/ldconfig13:09
kostaja  if test -e /usr/bin/bzip2.orig-arm -a -h %{binary}; then13:09
kostaja    echo "/usr/bin/bzip2.orig-arm already present - skipping."13:09
kostaja  else13:09
kostaja    mv /usr/bin/bzip2 /usr/bin/bzip2.orig-arm ; ln -s /emul/ia32-linux/usr/bin/bzip2 /usr/bin/bzip213:09
kostaja  fi13:09
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phaeronSage: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=spectacle&project=Project%3AMINT%3ATesting13:47
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Stskeepskostaja: interesting, now, why is it looking in /emul ..14:04
Stskeepskostaja: can you check old mer releases bzip-x86-arm and see if they have the /sbin/ldconfig too?14:05
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Stskeepshello shentey :)14:26
shenteyhi Stskeeps?14:26
Stskeepsshentey: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ?14:26
shenteyStskeeps: I'd like to use Mer on my ExoPC14:28
Stskeepsalright, should be easy :)14:28
Stskeepsdid you try something like nemo or plasma active already?14:28
shenteyyeah, I want to use the nemo spin14:29
Sagehmmp... does Mer have extlinux packaged in some tools repo?14:29
shenteylast time I tried the vkb didn't work like I'd expect, but the rest looked pretty amazing14:29
shenteyin particular, I couldn't enter the wifi passphrase using the vkb14:30
StskeepsSage: SDK, yeah14:30
Stskeepsshentey: tried a recent one? i could do that usually14:30
shenteyStskeeps: I tried like one month ago14:30
* Sage ponders why mic needs extlinux for image builds14:30
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shenteyStskeeps: moreover, I'd like to use Marble on the nemo spin14:41
Stskeepsshentey: well, perhaps it's better to try out plasma active then14:41
Stskeepsgiven that it's a kde app14:41
shenteyit runs on Harmattan already, so I figure that it runs on the nemo spin, too?14:42
Stskeepstrue, might then as well14:42
Stskeepsif you can get it building for nemo x8614:42
shenteythat's basically what I'd like to verify14:43
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shenteylast time I tried plasma active it was waaaaay too slow14:44
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Stskeepsthey've probably gotten better :)14:46
shenteyhow does Mer run on the N950? is it a nice replacement for Harmattan?14:46
Stskeepsit's not a replacement but it runs nicely14:46
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* shentey is not satisfied with the latest release candidate of Harmattan14:47
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vgrade_OBS Meeting in 1 hour in #mer-meeting14:57
slainevgrade, damn, won't be able to make it15:02
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slaineI'll catch the logs15:02
* Stskeeps 'll try to attend but may have to go shoppin'15:03
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Sagelbt: kickstarter is missing from sdk?15:30
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lbtit is?15:30
lbtOK - I'll check it's there in the next one15:31
Sagealso extlinux is missing so mic doesn't work fully15:31
Sagelbt: http://pastie.org/391576315:32
lbtthat's fixed now I think15:32
lbtphaeron updated syslinux to add the dependency15:32
Sageah, ok let me try to zypper it15:33
lbtyeah15:33
* lbt wonders if it's building / installing against Testing15:33
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Sage18:32.49 < lbt> phaeron updated syslinux to add the dependency15:34
Sage^ umm... that is wrong IMO, mic should have dependency to syslinux-extlinux not syslinux itself, or am I wrong?15:34
phaeronthat's what I  did added dep to syslinux-extlinux15:34
lbtI mis-spoke15:35
Sageah ok15:35
Sagehttp://pastie.org/3915778 <- seen this before?15:35
lbtphaeron updated mic to add  the dependency to syslinux-ish  :)15:35
* Sage should loose his filter a bit on those ;)15:36
phaeronSage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/481615:36
Sageah, so I need to update mic :)15:36
lbtI thought our mic allowed those errors to pass through15:36
lbttry --debug?15:37
* Sage thinks that the sdk installation page should say after installing do "zypper update" :)15:37
Sagephaeron: still same issue15:37
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lbtSage, I agree15:38
lbtbut it's slightly more than that15:38
lbtthe repos.d are linked to a definite release15:38
lbtso we need an sdk-update command that gets 'latest' and updates the repos15:38
Sagelbt: actually we should get that to mer itself not to sdk only15:39
lbtI tried having them linked to the latest symlink but it causes other issues (like not knowing what SDK you're running)15:39
Sagezypper update-release or something15:39
lbt*nod*15:39
lbtyeah - that'd be nice15:39
Sagesdk is just another mer release IMO15:39
Sageor vendor15:39
lbttrue15:39
Sagesame rules apply and it has its own schedule as well15:40
lbtannoyingly Mer depends on the SDK to create Mer reference .ks15:40
lbtI must fix that15:40
phaeronSage: what issue ?15:41
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phaeronmaybe mkfs.ext4 is missing ?15:44
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SageError <mount>: Error creating ext4 filesystem on disk /dev/loop11115:52
Sagemkfs.ext4 is there15:52
Sagehttp://pastie.org/391588215:54
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vgrade_Sage: , missed the earlier messages, does this relate, https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24015:56
Sagevgrade_: seems same.15:58
* Sage tests15:58
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phaeronhaven't seen that before. the issue I faced was that mic failed to build a raw image because extlinux was not there16:00
Sagesudo ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab16:00
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Sagethat solved the problem, thx vgrade_16:01
Sagemkfs.ext4 should not check /etc/mtab but /proc/mounts16:01
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kostajaStskeeps: yes, the query output is the same with the old release17:09
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Stskeepskostaja: okay17:09
Stskeepskostaja: it seems counterintuitive to me that ldconfig even looks in /emul17:10
Stskeeps.. actually17:13
Stskeepskostaja: ugh, i wonder if this has anything to deal with our glibc 2.15 upgrade17:14
Stskeepsbehaviour that changed, etc17:15
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Stskeepskostaja: do me a favour and tarball up a build chroot where the bzip2-x86 error happens in17:16
Stskeepsthat's only way i can properly debug wtf goes on17:16
kostajacan do. just a moment17:18
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Stskeepskostaja: got buildroot, looking..17:40
kostajaok, thanks!17:43
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Stskeepskostaja: those errors should not be fatal, are you sure the build log finishes there?17:47
kostajahmm..17:47
Stskeepsi'd like to see the full build log17:48
Stskeeps /sbin/ldconfig had return code 0, so17:50
kostajathe log in obs is the same as http://paste.ubuntu.com/988785/17:51
kostajai double checked17:51
kostajaso the fatal problem is at the last lines?17:53
Stskeepsnah, i think i see it now..17:53
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E-Phmm.. do we have any topics for mer QA meeting? I was thinking about the OBS status, but you had that in the release meeting already17:54
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E-Ptimoph, lbt ^17:55
E-Pwe could have the meeting tomorrow at 12 UTC17:55
* lbt hasn't put much into QA since last meeting17:56
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E-PI haven't had any time either :/17:56
timophme neither17:57
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lbtmaybe defer a week ?17:58
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E-Pwe can do that, no need to have a meeting if we don't have anything to discuss18:00
Stskeepshopefully we'll have more news on infra side for next meeting then18:01
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Stskeepskostaja: http://pastie.org/391640618:01
E-PI will send a post to mailing list18:02
Stskeepskostaja: i think some behaviour changed in 2.15 with ld.so.cache and hence everything blows up18:02
kostajaok. sounds bad..18:03
Stskeepskostaja: i think i have a workaround though18:04
Stskeepsmoment18:04
Stskeepskostaja: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-crosshelpers/bzip2-x86.git;a=blob;f=bzip2-x86.spec;h=0147e2e69eee4ad157511e1c314388a99442c3ff;hb=HEAD#l23618:06
Stskeepsadd shellquote "  targettype arm post \"  /emul/ia32-linux/sbin/ldconfig \" " >> /tmp/baselibs_new.conf18:06
Stskeepsafter line 23618:07
* Stskeeps hopes someone will forgive his sins..18:07
kostajaStskeeps: ok. i'll try that out!18:08
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vgradeStskeeps, thanks for finishing the meeting18:23
kostajaStskeeps: i still get the shit load of "unknown machine 3", but the end of the log is different18:24
kostajanow:18:24
kostajainstalling libcap-x86-arm-2.19-7.1.Mer18:24
kostajarpm: error while loading shared libraries: libattr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:24
kostajaexit ...18:24
Stskeepskostaja: ugh, exactly what i feared..18:25
kostaja:(18:26
Stskeepskostaja: you may be able to deal with it by doing same for libcap-x86 etc but i feel we may be having a loosing game18:28
Stskeepskostaja: i would potentially check what opensuse does18:29
Stskeepskostaja: as you can clearly see, this is why i don't like the old cross approach :)18:31
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kostajayes, i see. :)18:35
Stskeepsi'm really wondering what broke it though18:35
* Sage mumbels something about changing design and keeping the same name... (This time furniture design)18:38
kostajai'm just thinking that maybe i could just integrate the sb2 changes to the scheduler and provide the sb2 build-tool from rpm? that would not be a big change to the system18:39
kostajaor maybe just go to bed now..18:40
Stskeepsbefore dealing with my patches, a sound mind is needed yes18:40
StskeepsSage: ah, like galaxy nexus 2 ;)18:40
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Stskeepsheh, undocumented obs behaviour19:05
Stskeepsdid you know there's a "Nopreinstall" ?19:05
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* Sage fucked up his image builds again with mer sdk19:37
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* Stskeeps is making good headway on sb2+b1 obs finally19:42
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Sagelbt: scp is not in sdk, would be nice to have IMO19:51
Sageeasy to install though19:52
StskeepsX-Fade, lbt, phaeron: can i get a ls -l of obs/repos/.../.../:full of MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan ?19:53
Stskeepssomething's really bizarre19:53
SageStskeeps: moving the new release to public19:55
StskeepsSage: OK, i'll probably first be able to test past 13ish tomorrow19:56
Stskeeps(my time)19:56
SageStskeeps: I'll check if I could check n950 and maybe n900 today19:57
Stskeepsk19:57
* Stskeeps glances over at bricked tizen ref device19:57
vgradebricked, oh no19:58
Stskeepsvgrade: well it was kinda my own fault19:58
Stskeeps:P19:58
Stskeepstook me 5 days to get it into a state where i couldn't boot the os19:58
vgrade:)19:58
vgradebadly designed hw19:59
vgradeif you can brick it19:59
Stskeepsnah, there's a bootloader before uboot19:59
Stskeepsi'm sure i can unbrick it19:59
Stskeeps:P19:59
Stskeepshow exactly eludes me at the moment19:59
vgradephew19:59
vgradeI was expecting a mer photo from 20,000ft20:00
Stskeepsit would be slightly easier if they'd document how exactly to boot from sd20:01
vgradenow that would be too easy20:01
Stskeepsthere is a menu point for it20:01
Stskeepsin the pre-uboot boot loader20:01
vgradeso you have to get the uboot in the right place20:01
Stskeepsyeah.. and ideally the uboot source too20:02
Stskeepswhich i've requested20:02
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vgradethe A10's have a similar scheme, if sdcard is in it looks at an offset in first part for uboot20:02
vgradesorry before first part20:02
vgradeso you have <part table> <uboot> <dos part with uImage>20:03
Stskeepsyeah20:04
Stskeepsi'm fairly sure it's similar on this device20:04
Stskeepsbut without a serial cable it's difficult20:04
* Stskeeps looks at sage20:04
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Stskeepsoh hey20:05
Stskeepsi think they actually upstreamed the stuff20:05
Stskeepsthere's a include/configs/trats.h thing20:06
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SageStskeeps: I don't have the serial cable with me atm. Also looked at the kernel and they didn't have FIQ enabled by default at least20:07
Stskeeps:nod:20:07
Sageroot=/dev/mmcblk0p5 rootfstype=ext4 rw console=ttySAC2,115200n8 fbmem=24M@0x66800000 normal lcd=s6e8ax0 lpj=3981312 resume=179:3 csa=/dev/mmcblk0p1 bootloader_log=888@0x62d0001020:09
Sagewhat is csa?20:09
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Stskeepsprobably some kind of security key stuff20:10
Sagealso to me tizen default partition table looks a lot like android http://pastie.org/391696620:10
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lbtStskeeps: the :full is huge20:24
jbos_lbt is there a perl5 in :full20:24
Stskeepsyes, what jbos asks20:25
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lbtperl_5.10.1-16+maemo2+0m6_armel.deb20:25
Stskeepsok, so cpio output just cuts off20:25
Stskeepsgood to know20:25
jbos_background of those question is that a cpio of this :full is 899 MB and does not contain it20:25
lbthttps://gist.github.com/270485420:25
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lbtgist is bigger than pastie :)20:26
jbos_ok so the cpio is missing lots of stuff20:28
jbos_bad :)20:28
lbtmm20:28
lbtwhat cpio ?20:28
lbtor should I just back away slowly :)20:28
jbos_https://api.pub.meego.com/public/build/MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan/Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armv7el/_repository?view=cpio20:28
lbtso that's a link to a 900Mb cpio request?20:29
* lbt goes to find the bandwidth limiter on cobs...20:30
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byakothe link lookes like ddos :D20:30
byakoddos-attack I mean20:30
lbtyes, please don't click it...20:30
byakono way20:31
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jbos_this is a link which should  in theory provide the entire :full repo20:31
jbos_in one cpio20:31
Stskeepslbt: back away slowly..20:31
Stskeeps:P20:31
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phaeronprobably nginx breaks the request20:36
phaeronlbt: check the nginx proxy log. cobs is behind nginx , right ?20:39
lbtyeah - but I'm not too worried about making it work20:40
jbos_:)20:40
lbtI take it there's no serious need for it?20:40
jbos_well, stskeeps say he has some magic script doing the same but package for package20:41
jbos_so well20:41
jbos_no, just was curious if I'm just to sleepy20:41
lbtOK - let me know if it blocks anything20:42
jbos_or if there is something wrong in configuration of cobs20:42
lbtphaeron: actually we're apache20:42
jbos_yep. so from obs pov i think src/backend/BSWatcher.pm   << is a good point to start20:43
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lbtjbos_: would you log it as a bug so it's at least recorded as an issue20:43
lbtcontext / use-case would help prio it20:44
jbos_like around pc_recv_stream_handler... nextchunk20:44
jbos_point me to bugzilla, do not have the bookmark at home20:45
jbos_:)20:45
lbtbugs.merproject.org20:45
jbos_ok20:47
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jbos_there y g20:52
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