Wednesday, 2012-05-02

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rrixhi all04:54
rrixSo, apparently my mer build has usbnet enabled on it, does the kernel assign a default IP to that interface?04:54
* rrix can't get in to this machine at all while it's running and is thinking that usbnet might be an option04:54
Stskeepstouchpad right?04:55
StskeepsCONFIG_CMDLINE="fb=0x7f600000 ip=192.168.1.101:192.168.1.100::255.255.255.0::usb0:on fbcon=enable console=tty0 klog=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000 boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pv msm_fb.fix_x=1"04:55
Stskeepsis what i use04:55
rrixooh04:56
rrix<304:56
* rrix adds that to his commandline and spins up a boot04:56
rrixI got ts_srv installed on my device, but I'm not sure it's running :\04:56
rrixStskeeps: do you know where to stick that in moboot's /boot? I should know, but I can't find it04:59
Stskeepsi built this into the kerne04:59
Stskeepsl04:59
rrixahh04:59
Stskeepsthe .config for it04:59
rrixright05:00
rrixI guess I could rebuild the kernel05:00
* rrix does so05:05
E-PMorning all05:09
Stskeepsmorn E-P :)05:12
timophmorning05:13
* timoph yawns05:13
iekkumorning05:14
Stskeepsdid you finns have a good vappu? :)05:15
iekkutimoph, where are you located? i saw you walking today :)05:15
iekkuStskeeps, yes :)05:15
timophiekku: next to tietotalo. same building with patria05:16
timophnaulakatu that is05:16
iekkutimoph, ok.05:17
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dm8tbrmoaning05:34
dm8tbrStskeeps: I just glanced over the /. discussion about titzen 1.0 - have you read the SDK EULA?05:35
Stskeepsi never installed the SDK, but yes, afaik it's a bit evil05:35
timophoh05:35
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* dm8tbr neither05:35
* timoph reads05:35
dm8tbrhttps://developer.tizen.org/download/samsung_sdk_license.html05:35
dm8tbrit /sounds/ a lot like 'hey we're using some OSS here but don't you dare touch anything or do anything funky'05:36
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* timoph feels free to ignore such requirements05:36
Stskeepsi think the problem may lay in the emulator05:36
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timophlooks a lot like a propietary lisence to me05:39
timophie no 3rd party access/use, no modification/redistribution, no copying,..05:40
Stskeeps:nod:05:41
timophso it's of no use to us05:42
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Stskeepsnot terribly, but their SDK is oriented towards making apps and running it on top of a tizen runtime05:42
timophtrue05:42
dm8tbrI wonder what for an elaborate emulator if all they want is a web runtime05:43
dm8tbrbecause there clearly is no native app story05:43
timophI was under the impression that the tizen runtime was free sw and could slap on of mer05:43
Stskeepstimoph: that one seems more saner, yes05:43
Stskeepsdm8tbr: simply because you'd have to port the whole runtime onto each OS05:43
Stskeepsand that's not always feasible05:44
timophor even sane05:44
dm8tbrit sounded like they were going into that direction now though. there was this browser mode mentioned?05:44
Stskeepsadd on top of that specific emulator things, like, well, changing rotation..05:45
Stskeeps:P05:45
dm8tbrso probably runtime in the arm(?) simulator and then export the port 8005:45
timoph:)05:45
Stskeepsdm8tbr: it's actually x86 simulator05:45
Stskeepsthat one thing they did right05:45
dm8tbrwow...05:46
* timoph wonders why some parts of a lisence needs to be written in caps lock frenzy05:47
* Stskeeps looks at his pre-us-trip todo05:48
* Stskeeps needs a clone05:48
* timoph would have a use for one too :)05:49
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hhurtta_timoph: one answer in stackexchange.com states:05:53
hhurtta_"The caps allow you to say 'no way could they have missed the disclaimer, it is hardly fine print!' This is important in a license or EULA that non-lawyers must read and accept."05:53
timophx)05:53
hhurtta_http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/30329/can-i-remove-all-caps-and-shorten-the-disclaimer-on-my-license05:54
* dm8tbr actually /ignores/ all caps parts05:54
dm8tbras they are unreadable05:54
hhurtta_same here05:54
timophyep05:54
hhurtta_there really should always be 2 versions of each license: one for the lawyers and one for the common people05:56
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SageStskeeps: problem with python still exists :P06:00
StskeepsSage: huh?06:01
Sagehttp://qtl.merproject.org/865d47f2-93fc-11e1-9ad2-00163e6e0038.txt06:01
Sageerr.. different problem06:01
Stskeepsyes, i fixed that06:01
SageImportError: No module named atexit06:02
Stskeepskicked a couple of things06:02
Sagenot logging anymore06:02
Stskeepsyeah06:02
Sageok,06:02
Stskeepsit's impressive what deps python things can have06:02
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Stskeepsmorn mdfe_06:54
mdfe_good morning :)06:55
Stskeepsmdfe_: i discussed briefly with ingwa and found out what patch calligra needs06:55
Stskeepsvery tiny06:55
mdfe_https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=qt-gui-4.8.1-fix-calligra-crash.patch&package=qt&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel&rev=ef76528baa6b72c4df456e4f4d46d56b ?06:57
Stskeepsright06:57
mdfe_If yu like to update qt feel free06:57
Stskeepsfeel free to submit that fix to mer at least06:57
Stskeepswhen is PA3 due to arrive?06:58
mdfe_I do not have a exact date, but imho somewhere in sommer06:59
Stskeepsok06:59
Stskeepsso you'd be happy if you could get 4.8.1 plus that patch within next mer release?06:59
Stskeepsor just current + that patch07:00
mdfe_I have to read a huge bunch of mails first07:00
Stskeepsok07:00
mdfe_with some luck I get the time for this07:00
mdfe_but I cannot promise yet07:00
Stskeepsbfederau should be able to add the fix on it's own, at least07:01
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niqtmorning all07:29
Stskeepsmorn niqt07:36
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timophStskeeps: did you get around testing the updated tr-ui?07:40
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Stskeepstimoph: no, my evening plans got replaced with driver lesson07:43
Stskeepss07:43
timophok07:43
Stskeepsbyako: sorry for ignoring your messages, was fairly busy :)07:43
iekkuStskeeps, you are taking lessons?07:44
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Stskeepsiekku: yeah, so i'll be unavailable at times :P07:48
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iekku:)07:56
lbt_morning all07:58
Stskeepsmorn lbt_07:58
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iekkuhi lbt07:58
byakoStskeeps: what messages? :) no worries :) everything's fine08:05
Stskeepsbyako: ah, the problems you had08:05
byakoStskeeps: I'm bugging guys from maliit, looks like it's their maliit-server what kills X08:05
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Stskeepsbyako: i think you should take a step back and get gles tests passing, nemo isn't likely to be a very fun before that08:06
byakoand that fails for some reason, because gconf sets the empty line to one of the props value08:06
byakoStskeeps: will gles tests help somehow to improve maliit stability ?08:07
lbthey iekku08:07
byakoI don't think onscreen keyboard requires some special gles functionality08:07
Stskeepsit does08:07
Stskeepscomposition08:07
byakowell, I see the desktop for 3-5 seconds before it crashes :) if it'd had some severe problems with gles it wouldn't bring it up at all, would it ?08:08
Stskeepsthat's just llvmpipe trying it's hardest08:09
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Stskeepsget gles working, trust me :)08:09
Stskeepsis your end result intending to be nemo, or something else, btw?08:09
byakoif that means that I try to run meego handset UI from nemo user - yes08:10
Stskeepsif that means if you really want to give nemo a try, as it's quite complicated to get working sanely, compared to other UIs :)08:11
byakowhat I want on this stage is to get meegohome ui stable working08:11
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Stskeepsok08:11
byakowell, is nemo equal to the Seattle UI ?08:11
Stskeepsthen get gles going08:11
Stskeepsno, nemo is not n9 ui, it only uses open source pieces08:11
Stskeepsthough it's the same 'stack'08:12
byakooh, ok I missed the name, let me recall, what was the name of the MeeGo UI ?08:12
Stskeepsthere wasn't really a name, what runs on N9 is meegotouch framework with closed source UI additions on top (swipe, etc)08:13
byakothe one with desktop, not the N9's UI08:13
byakoyes, yes, forget about N9, I'm not trying to use that one, I'm trying to use MeeGo HandSet UI08:14
byakoI just can't get the name :(08:14
Stskeepsyes, that's as close as  you get with nemo08:14
Stskeepswe're derived from meego handset ui08:14
alterego908:14
* byako away08:14
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SageStskeeps: kicked the stuff again after another python update?08:32
Stskeepsyes08:33
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lbtStskeeps: did you catch my update on copyprj last night ?08:39
Stskeepsyes08:41
lbtso carrying on today ... not going to be 'trivial' :)08:41
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Stskeepsok, what was the issues?08:44
lbtone time it sat there with no repos08:44
lbtanother time one repo built, another said "broken"08:45
lbt--deep-check-project got it to "normal" behaviour08:45
* byako is back08:46
lbtso it sounds like events are firing at the wrong time08:46
lbtand it needs to do some kind of "ignore this project until I've finished" lock08:46
lbtpossibly as simple as not copying prj meta until all other copies are done08:47
lbtI've setup some test VMs and we can easily steal a cobs worker when we need08:48
lbtBTW this is just FYI and sharing in case you have any thoughts / are interested ...08:48
byakoStskeeps: mer-gfx-tests doesn't report any errors as far as I can see..08:50
Stskeepsbyako: mer-gfx-tests and run ./glestest for instance08:50
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byakoStskeeps: that's what I did :) I got some logs on stdout in console, I got mouse cursor on the LCD. eglinfo also dosn't show any errors08:55
byakoand from those logs and info output I can't see any errors08:56
byakoso probably, egl is fine08:56
slainemorning folks08:56
Stskeepsbyako: and use mali gles drivers08:58
byakommm, yes, but with software rendering, DRI is OFF, swrast is in use..08:59
Stskeepsyes, and that won't work09:00
byakoStskeeps: though it looks like you right, I found one more line in logs: No EGL tfp support :(09:00
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byakook, to get Mali DRI lib I will need to use r2p209:01
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harbaumWhy does tizen look like meego/nemo?09:29
harbaumDid they really rewrite the stuff in html5 or _is_ this qt/mtf?09:29
Stskeepslook? no idea09:31
Stskeepssome apps are efl09:31
smokuit lookl like a Mobile OS. these got pretty standard these days09:31
smokupersonally I see a lot of reminiscence of LiMo there09:31
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harbaumThe "back" buttons are for example those small left pointing arrows down left in the bottom bar09:34
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phakowhat's the version of connman used in mer?10:14
* phako doesn't have his vm at hand10:14
Stskeepscheck gitweb.merproject.org10:14
lbthttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Source helps10:14
phakothx10:14
phakoah, that explains10:16
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SageStskeeps: http://qtl.merproject.org/7f880208-9449-11e1-a76c-00163e6e0038.html11:28
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Stskeepsodd11:35
SageStskeeps: could you kick some of my submits again :)11:41
Stskeepswhen thunderstorm has passed11:42
Sageah.. ok11:43
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StskeepsSage: which ones do you want kicked?12:02
iekkudon't kick the baby12:03
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: is gdb available in mer? gdbm-1.8.3-1.11.Mer.armv7l.rpm seems not the one12:49
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StskeepsZiQiangHuan: yes, in newer versions12:49
Stskeepsgdbm is a database12:49
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: hmm, I hope I can use it to find out why the problem with my webkit. fprintf(stderr, "******\n") sometimes block the program too12:51
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StskeepsZiQiangHuan: for a real possibility: it is highly likely that webkit has their own logging framework and they do not want to stall when writing to log files, so they mark stdout as non-blocking12:53
Stskeeps.. maye12:53
Stskeepsmaybe12:53
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: hmm, not only the statement printf and fprintf, sometimes only a assignment statement can block that too12:54
Stskeepshmm12:55
Stskeepsthat sounds more weird12:55
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: all the strange happens only in MediaPlayerPrivateGStreamer12:55
ZiQiangHuanonly in MediaPlayerPrivateGStreamer.cpp12:55
Stskeepswe're talking about 'your' webkit, that you use for your html5 runtime, riht?12:55
Stskeepsright12:55
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: MediaPlayerPrivateGStreamer.cpp is offerd by webkit, to use the gstreamer as backend12:57
Stskeepsok12:57
Stskeepsperhaps try to compile with -O0 as a start12:57
Stskeepsand see if it's an optimization error12:57
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: -O0?12:57
Stskeepsyes, no optimization12:58
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: you think maybe optimization cause the problem ?12:59
Stskeepsit's worth checking, just for good measure12:59
Stskeepsbecause optimization errors can be really tricky to debug12:59
Stskeepsbut yes, gdb too12:59
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: yes, I wiil have a test with -O013:02
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: and I try to ask why this happen in webkit maillist, but got no good response back to me.13:03
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I thought if this is a common problem with webkit's gstreamer backend, someone else may encountered this too.13:03
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SageStskeeps: well all that failed from the last set of packages I sent13:53
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byakoStskeeps: Sage: I just got weird thought. Is EGL part of mali driver closed/available for customers with arm license? I mean the DRI2 EGL library14:25
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Stskeepsbyako: it's available as a closed blob normally, libegl and libglesv214:27
Stskeepsmali400 package14:27
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byakoStskeeps: thanks14:35
Stskeepssource you have to talk to vendor or arm about, i guess14:39
byakoStskeeps: that's not what I really looking for, I must say - I don't clearly understand what I'm talking about :) I'm not really familiar with graphics stack, but egl requires DRI2 library for interaction, not mali400 package, which contains egl implementation for mali14:41
Stskeepsbyako: ah14:41
Stskeepsbyako: mali400 contains libMali , xorg driver usually provides DRI part, http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-exadri2-and-x11-display-drivers.php14:42
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Stskeepsremember there's nothing really standard about ARM graphics14:44
byakoyes, I've seen this, I downloaded that, and it seems to contain proper sources, but I just don't get why neither igloo nor mer don't have this library compiled as a shared lib, from this sources only driver is built. Can it be really so that no on just did it ?14:44
byakonot like it's not doable14:44
Stskeepsit's more like.. the dri functionality is embedded into the egl/glesv2 driver14:44
Stskeepsie, the userland14:44
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Stskeepsand the server part for dri is handled by the xorg driver14:45
Stskeepshello repcuut :)14:45
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byakohaha, you scared him :D ok, so server gets the mali Xorg driver, than it detects the config which says it should use DRI2 extension, then it looks for a DRI lib - and it's just missing14:46
Stskeepsrather, the mali xorg driver -provides- the dri2 interface, instead of the traditional GLX /usr/lib/dri/something_dri.so14:46
Stskeepsthe errors in Xorg.0.log is from GLX, which we don't have on ARM14:47
byakoStskeeps: AIGLX, yes14:47
Stskeepsso generally just ignore that error :)14:47
byakoI can't it drops stuff14:48
byakoand stuff drops X14:48
Stskeepsokay, so, you have xorg driver and mali400 package, right?14:48
byakoso I have to find out why it tries to use AIGLX instead of egl14:48
byakoI have Xorg driver for sure14:49
byakonot sure about mali400 though14:49
byakolet me check14:49
Stskeepsok, now, for mer to function, your graphics driver (mali400) must provide /usr/lib/libGLESv2.so.2 and libEGL.so.1 , or symlinks to your libGLESv2.so or libEGL.so from mali40014:49
Stskeepseglinfo from mer-gfx-tests must say mali, not  mesa14:50
Stskeepsgo and change your /usr/share/xsessions/default.desktop to be xterm instead, and remove contents of /etc/xdg/autostart/*14:51
Stskeepsso we get a clean, stable system14:53
byakoXsession is failing by itself, i can just run Xorg & and then just DISPLAY=:0 eglinfo14:53
Stskeepsok, that is a better base too14:53
Stskeepsremove uxlaunch.service14:53
Stskeepsso we start everything manually14:53
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byakoaha, just will fix the symlinks in /usr/lib/lib*GL*14:54
byakoi've tried to use mali40014:54
Stskeepsmake sure the symlinks point at mali400's libEGL and libGLESv2 :P14:55
byakoU sure? I've just tried to do that and it totally failed.14:56
Stskeepsyes, i'm absolutely sure14:56
byakoI didn't even get /dev/fb014:56
byakowho's going to create that ?14:56
Stskeepsfb0 is kernel level, none of our concern14:56
byakookay14:56
Stskeepswe need to use the graphics acceleration on chip, not mesa14:57
byakoright, booting14:59
byakoStskeeps: ok, up and xterm is running15:02
Stskeepsok, now run eglinfo inside it15:02
byakoexactly inside? serial console won't do ?15:03
byakoi got 'eglinfo: eglInitialize failed' from the serial console15:03
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Stskeepsinside xterm15:04
byakothat's hard, I don't have kbd connected :D15:05
byakomaybe, I can steal tty ?15:05
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byakoI need to put USB in host mode, or OTG, it's in peripheral :(15:08
byakoStskeeps: ok, can you forcast if you will have time tomorrow? I will fix USB tonight. May I ping you tomorrow If I will still need help? Although I got the direction to dig, and will try to make eglinfo show mali instead of mesa15:14
Stskeepssu nemo , export DISPLAY=:0; xterm15:17
Stskeepsbyako: i should be available all day15:17
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lbthaving fun phaeron1 :)15:48
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lbtStskeeps: when are we ready for the second snapshot?16:03
mdfe_lbt: for a new pre release?16:04
lbtyes16:04
lbtsnapshot is pre-freeze though16:04
mdfe_I'm trying to push a new qt version at the moment16:04
lbtI'd like to do it tonight - tomorrow morning is OK too - but I'm leaving for SF on friday morning and don't want to leave it too close16:05
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Stskeepslbt, now, go ahead16:08
Stskeepsmdfe_: content freeze is friday16:08
lbtStskeeps: OK... pushing button16:09
lbtnooo .... space16:09
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mdfe_Stskeeps: any idea how long it will normally  take to get a response email by registering a email address at review.merproject.org16:17
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Stskeepsmdfe_: hmm, it should be quite quickly16:24
Stskeepsnot sure i ever had to register one16:24
mdfe_http://pastebin.com/cw7MW0ZC16:25
mdfe_git complain about a missing commier emal address16:26
mdfe_s/commier/committer16:27
lbtwe really need to consolidate usernames16:27
mdfe_after that I tried to register via given URL16:29
Stskeepsmdfe_: lemme check logs16:30
mdfe_thx16:31
Stskeepsmdfe_: can you /msg me the mail you tried to get it to add16:32
Stskeeps?16:32
mdfe_now I got the reponse email16:32
Stskeepsah, good16:32
mdfe_:)16:32
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mdfe_sorry for any inconvenience16:33
Stskeepsno problem, it's better someone says 'hmm, this works in a bad way' than not at all16:34
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mdfe_Stskeeps: I pushed the qt update (http://review.merproject.org/#change,562)16:41
mdfe_see ya16:41
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lbtStskeeps: want to wait for that b4 the snapshot?16:43
lbtI'm looking at running "hardlink"16:44
lbtwhich  "Would link ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120209.0.1/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm to ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120419.0.2/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm, would save 1743782"16:44
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lbtie it hardlinks unchanged rpms across releases16:45
lbthttp://linux.die.net/man/1/hardlink16:45
lbthttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=hardlink&project=Project%3AMINT%3ATesting16:46
Stskeepslbt: no, it'll take time to review16:51
Stskeepslbt: just snapshot16:51
lbtOK16:51
lbtany issues on hardlinks?16:52
lbtdoing a content-based hardlink may lose timestamp info - but I'm not too worried about that16:52
Stskeepsyou need to verify how it works with rsyncability and apache and createrepo behaviour16:52
Stskeepsand you need to compare based on md5/sha, not on filename16:53
lbtyep -c does that16:53
Stskeepsin other news, download.opensuse.org is switching to btrfs, so expect that to not work ;)16:54
lbtthat's .... brave.... of them16:54
Stskeepslbt: feel free to try it out for our first prerelease, ideally when we're all together at tizen conference17:00
Stskeepsthen i can complain in person17:00
Stskeeps:P17:00
lbthmm17:01
lbtit works across releases17:01
Stskeepsugh?17:01
lbtnot really17:01
lbtwhich  "Would link ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120209.0.1/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm to ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120419.0.2/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm, would save 1743782"17:01
Stskeepsyes, but what if we only grab a partial release?17:02
lbtso what it does is recursively scan a fs and generate sha1sum of each file17:02
lbtthen any files with the same sum have the same contents17:02
lbthardlinks them (retaining name)17:03
lbthowever, iirc, a hardlink also links attr like mtime17:03
lbtwhich is pretty much meaningless for files under ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120209.0.1/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/17:04
lbtwhat I'll do is hardlink the current snapshot to last weeks final pre-release17:04
lbtthey're important but not vital17:05
lbtthen I'll re-snap tonight17:05
lbtand hardlink tonights snap to mondays17:05
lbtwish me luck ....17:05
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Stskeepshttp://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-05/cp120053en.pdf -17:23
StskeepsThe functionality of a computer program and the programming language cannot be17:23
Stskeepsprotected by copyright17:23
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CosmoHillhi slaine17:27
CosmoHillslaine: I had to drive though this to get to work yesterday: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/farm_track.jpg17:28
CosmoHillStskeeps: that would be a bad place to stall17:28
StskeepsCosmoHill: that looks like standard roads here in warsaw..17:28
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CosmoHillit's not something I'm used to but I'm glad I drive there daily cos there's a ditch on the right17:29
StskeepsCosmoHill: when you do cross LFS, how soon do you run into things that does not happily cross compile, and instead want to run native?17:30
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CosmoHillchapter 5 - cross compile tools are able run on your host and are used to create the temp system17:32
Stskeepsokay, so fairly soon17:32
CosmoHillchapter 6 is the temp system used to build your final system, this it for the target arch so you won't be able to run that on your host17:32
CosmoHilllook at the last page of chapter 617:33
CosmoHillbtw we're on #cross-lfs on this server17:33
Stskeepsyeah, just asking you about on-topic stuff for here :P17:34
CosmoHillhehe17:34
CosmoHillmy work on it is sporadic at best. I've ordered a tool to fix my powermac and have a raspbery pi on order17:35
phaeronStskeeps: and already workarounds for btrfs limitations are being commited17:36
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lbtStskeeps: interesting link - especially given the Google/Oracle trial17:36
phaeronhttps://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/commit/a0b765d51dc49226aed68c2885acbfccfd952342#L0R172417:36
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Stskeepsphaeron: ouch17:37
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* phaeron shakes fist at github17:46
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lbtStskeeps: are you logged in to monster ?17:53
Stskeepsyes, always17:53
Stskeepswhy?17:53
lbtgetting really laggy responses atm - I thought it had crashed17:53
Stskeepsnop17:53
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byakoStskeeps: it's weird, but looks like changing symlinks of /usr/lib/libGL* matters for /dev/fb0 creation18:45
Stskeepsbyako: bizarre, perhaps it's a module that gets loaded?18:46
Stskeepsmer uses devtmpfs, it only does what kernel shows18:46
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byakomodule? which one? driver is compiled-in, external modules are USB-related only18:50
vgradebyako, not sure what SoC you are on but on amlogic, I insmod the mali.ko which gives me a /dev/mali18:51
vgradethis may need chown to set permissions18:51
byakovgrade: /dev/mali exists, but normally /dev/fb0 is not symlink for /dev/mali, isn't it ?18:52
vgradeno18:52
vgradeonce I had mali.ko loaded and symlinks done eglinfo reported arm mali renderer18:53
vgradeEGL version string: 1.4 Linux-r2p1-05rel018:53
Stskeepsbyako: and you're using the mali xorg driver?18:54
byakovgrade: I assume you have /dev/fb0 at that moment ?18:54
byakoStskeeps: yes, picture is identical to the normal one except the changed symlinks for GL libs18:55
byakoI will put those back and reboot, probably18:55
Stskeepsbyako: okay, and libGLES -> mali's libGLES now, right?18:55
byakoyes18:55
byakoor no.. I can't figure out lib source now, I placed it manually without packaging.. let me check once more18:56
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* Stskeeps ponders if to take if to take touchpad or s10-3t to the US..18:59
byakotransformer has a HW kbd19:01
vgradeStskeeps, s10-3t, more scope for hacking Tizen gift on flight home19:01
CosmoHillffs, I hate it when people write adverts in upper case19:01
Stskeepsvgrade: i still hope they'll give us a blackbay running tizen19:02
Stskeeps:P19:02
leinirCosmoHill: BUT CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! SURELY YOU LISTEN MORE TO COOL PEOPLE!19:02
* leinir ducks ;)19:02
byakoStskeeps: so libs: yes, symlink leads to libMali.so19:02
Stskeepsbyako: leads to? there's no unique libEGL.so , libGLESv2.so ?19:03
CosmoHillleinir: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201216464320346/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_60000_miles/maximum-age/up_to_10_years_old/transmission/manual/price-to/5000/make/subaru/radius/60/postcode/cm26sg/page/1?logcode=p19:03
Stskeepscan you quickly list mali400 contents for me? :)19:03
leinirCosmoHill: ...srsly19:03
vgradethere is only libmali on later driver versions, egl and gles are symlinked to it19:03
byakoStskeeps: huh? mali400 package provides only libMali & libUMP, anda bunch of symlinks19:03
CosmoHillleinir: I've not even bothed to read it19:03
Stskeepsbyako: ah, OK19:03
Stskeepsbyako: and right now, fb0 does not appear?19:04
byakoStskeeps: nope19:04
Stskeepsokay19:04
vgradebyako, do you have the ump driver compiled in?19:04
Stskeepswhat do you need it for?19:04
Stskeeps:P19:04
byakoStskeeps: but dmesg shows "Mali: Mali device driver  loaded"19:04
Stskeepsand what kernel .ko's do you have19:05
leinirCosmoHill: You don't have to read past the first bit... It basically just goes "LOL BEST CAR DEAL EVAH!!11eleventyone"19:05
byakovgrade: I hope so19:05
CosmoHillleinir: "this car is the shit" "no, it's just shit"19:05
Stskeepstaking good suggestions for mer watercooler-style channel name..19:06
Stskeeps:P19:06
Stskeepsbyako: ok, and Xorg can come up at the moment with working xterm?19:07
vgradeStskeeps, Samsung device was mooted but with the IVI having the BB kernel who knows19:07
Stskeepsi can pretty much promise you i won't be on stage this time, so i have no idea what they're giving out ;)19:08
byakoStskeeps: not a chance, /dev/fb0 is absent19:10
byakoeven manually trying to start X shows : NO /dev/fb0 sign19:10
Stskeepsbyako: okay, i need to see Xorg.0.log now19:10
byakoStskeeps: pasting19:10
Stskeepsand framebuffers are overrated :)19:10
byakoStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/TrXKHa1u19:11
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Stskeepsbyako: okay, can i see ls -R /lib/modules ?19:12
byakoStskeeps: you don't want that :) I have 7 folders in there, I'll give you the /lib/modules/`uname -r`19:12
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Stskeepsbyako: that works too19:13
Stskeepsbyako: do you have something called 'hdmiservice'?19:14
byakoStskeeps: maybe only find [path] -name "*ko" will fit? -lR is pretty link19:14
Stskeepser19:14
byakos/link/long/19:14
Stskeepshdmistart19:14
byakoyesm that is working19:14
Stskeepsokay, run hdmistart first, check if /dev/fb0 pops up?19:14
byakothat's the way I normally got the picture to the LCd19:14
Stskeepshdmistart & that is19:14
byakosure, I don't need it in foreground in serial console ;)19:15
byakoStskeeps: but no need to start that19:15
byako[nemo@localhost ~]$ ps -A | grep hdmi 1628 ?        00:00:00 hdmistart <defunct19:15
Stskeepsi'm looking at http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openbricks.scm/3184 so19:15
Stskeepsdefunct? curious19:15
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byakoStskeeps: emm, what that does is sleeps until /dev/fb0 will appear19:16
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Stskeepsyes19:16
byakothat's not what we're looking for19:16
Stskeepswhich i presume hdmistart & is doing19:16
Stskeeps / causing19:16
byakoStskeeps: I doubt19:16
* Stskeeps takes a look at hdmiservice code19:17
Stskeepsbyako: http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/?p=bsp/hdmiservice.git;a=blob;f=src/hdmi_service.c;h=cbb88d02418ad98897438d95e94173c76b76b155;hb=f5784d2722df6d09dcf09f13a316531bf80fa973#l41119:19
Stskeepsseems to be what creates the framebuffer19:19
Stskeepsso i think we should look into that, before Xorg is started19:19
Stskeepsand find out why it's marked as 'defunct'19:20
byakoStskeeps: gosh, that checks for cable to be plugged19:20
byakoStskeeps: I must admit I don't have LCD to plug HDMI output :(19:21
byakoif that is the cause, I will be able to continue only tommorow19:21
Stskeepsi really wonder who designs these kind of services19:21
* byako is looking at the third line in the file : Author ...19:22
Stskeepsi think we have a similar issue on pandaboard, fwiw19:23
byakowith graphics output or with HW acceleration ?19:25
Stskeepshw acceleration without hdmi plugged in19:26
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CosmoHillnight Stskeeps19:53
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trip0vgrade, any news on the new kernal for the 1gig c71?20:44
vgradetrip0, no news, I'm afraid. amlogic released a generic meson 3 kernel but zenithink are still lagging behind20:46
vgradeon a public release20:46
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wmaronethe funny thing is how zenithink is leaving money on the table by not complying21:11
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CosmoHillcyas22:23
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