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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:41 |
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| rrix | hi all | 04:54 |
| rrix | So, apparently my mer build has usbnet enabled on it, does the kernel assign a default IP to that interface? | 04:54 |
| * rrix can't get in to this machine at all while it's running and is thinking that usbnet might be an option | 04:54 | |
| Stskeeps | touchpad right? | 04:55 |
| Stskeeps | CONFIG_CMDLINE="fb=0x7f600000 ip=192.168.1.101:192.168.1.100::255.255.255.0::usb0:on fbcon=enable console=tty0 klog=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000 boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pv msm_fb.fix_x=1" | 04:55 |
| Stskeeps | is what i use | 04:55 |
| rrix | ooh | 04:56 |
| rrix | <3 | 04:56 |
| * rrix adds that to his commandline and spins up a boot | 04:56 | |
| rrix | I got ts_srv installed on my device, but I'm not sure it's running :\ | 04:56 |
| rrix | Stskeeps: do you know where to stick that in moboot's /boot? I should know, but I can't find it | 04:59 |
| Stskeeps | i built this into the kerne | 04:59 |
| Stskeeps | l | 04:59 |
| rrix | ahh | 04:59 |
| Stskeeps | the .config for it | 04:59 |
| rrix | right | 05:00 |
| rrix | I guess I could rebuild the kernel | 05:00 |
| * rrix does so | 05:05 | |
| E-P | Morning all | 05:09 |
| Stskeeps | morn E-P :) | 05:12 |
| timoph | morning | 05:13 |
| * timoph yawns | 05:13 | |
| iekku | morning | 05:14 |
| Stskeeps | did you finns have a good vappu? :) | 05:15 |
| iekku | timoph, where are you located? i saw you walking today :) | 05:15 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, yes :) | 05:15 |
| timoph | iekku: next to tietotalo. same building with patria | 05:16 |
| timoph | naulakatu that is | 05:16 |
| iekku | timoph, ok. | 05:17 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:34 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I just glanced over the /. discussion about titzen 1.0 - have you read the SDK EULA? | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | i never installed the SDK, but yes, afaik it's a bit evil | 05:35 |
| timoph | oh | 05:35 |
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| * dm8tbr neither | 05:35 | |
| * timoph reads | 05:35 | |
| dm8tbr | https://developer.tizen.org/download/samsung_sdk_license.html | 05:35 |
| dm8tbr | it /sounds/ a lot like 'hey we're using some OSS here but don't you dare touch anything or do anything funky' | 05:36 |
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| * timoph feels free to ignore such requirements | 05:36 | |
| Stskeeps | i think the problem may lay in the emulator | 05:36 |
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| timoph | looks a lot like a propietary lisence to me | 05:39 |
| timoph | ie no 3rd party access/use, no modification/redistribution, no copying,.. | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:41 |
| timoph | so it's of no use to us | 05:42 |
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| Stskeeps | not terribly, but their SDK is oriented towards making apps and running it on top of a tizen runtime | 05:42 |
| timoph | true | 05:42 |
| dm8tbr | I wonder what for an elaborate emulator if all they want is a web runtime | 05:43 |
| dm8tbr | because there clearly is no native app story | 05:43 |
| timoph | I was under the impression that the tizen runtime was free sw and could slap on of mer | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: that one seems more saner, yes | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: simply because you'd have to port the whole runtime onto each OS | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | and that's not always feasible | 05:44 |
| timoph | or even sane | 05:44 |
| dm8tbr | it sounded like they were going into that direction now though. there was this browser mode mentioned? | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | add on top of that specific emulator things, like, well, changing rotation.. | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:45 |
| dm8tbr | so probably runtime in the arm(?) simulator and then export the port 80 | 05:45 |
| timoph | :) | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: it's actually x86 simulator | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | that one thing they did right | 05:45 |
| dm8tbr | wow... | 05:46 |
| * timoph wonders why some parts of a lisence needs to be written in caps lock frenzy | 05:47 | |
| * Stskeeps looks at his pre-us-trip todo | 05:48 | |
| * Stskeeps needs a clone | 05:48 | |
| * timoph would have a use for one too :) | 05:49 | |
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| hhurtta_ | timoph: one answer in stackexchange.com states: | 05:53 |
| hhurtta_ | "The caps allow you to say 'no way could they have missed the disclaimer, it is hardly fine print!' This is important in a license or EULA that non-lawyers must read and accept." | 05:53 |
| timoph | x) | 05:53 |
| hhurtta_ | http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/30329/can-i-remove-all-caps-and-shorten-the-disclaimer-on-my-license | 05:54 |
| * dm8tbr actually /ignores/ all caps parts | 05:54 | |
| dm8tbr | as they are unreadable | 05:54 |
| hhurtta_ | same here | 05:54 |
| timoph | yep | 05:54 |
| hhurtta_ | there really should always be 2 versions of each license: one for the lawyers and one for the common people | 05:56 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: problem with python still exists :P | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: huh? | 06:01 |
| Sage | http://qtl.merproject.org/865d47f2-93fc-11e1-9ad2-00163e6e0038.txt | 06:01 |
| Sage | err.. different problem | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i fixed that | 06:01 |
| Sage | ImportError: No module named atexit | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | kicked a couple of things | 06:02 |
| Sage | not logging anymore | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:02 |
| Sage | ok, | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's impressive what deps python things can have | 06:02 |
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| Stskeeps | morn mdfe_ | 06:54 |
| mdfe_ | good morning :) | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: i discussed briefly with ingwa and found out what patch calligra needs | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | very tiny | 06:55 |
| mdfe_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=qt-gui-4.8.1-fix-calligra-crash.patch&package=qt&project=Project%3AKDE%3ADevel&rev=ef76528baa6b72c4df456e4f4d46d56b ? | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | right | 06:57 |
| mdfe_ | If yu like to update qt feel free | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to submit that fix to mer at least | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | when is PA3 due to arrive? | 06:58 |
| mdfe_ | I do not have a exact date, but imho somewhere in sommer | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | so you'd be happy if you could get 4.8.1 plus that patch within next mer release? | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | or just current + that patch | 07:00 |
| mdfe_ | I have to read a huge bunch of mails first | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:00 |
| mdfe_ | with some luck I get the time for this | 07:00 |
| mdfe_ | but I cannot promise yet | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | bfederau should be able to add the fix on it's own, at least | 07:01 |
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| niqt | morning all | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | morn niqt | 07:36 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: did you get around testing the updated tr-ui? | 07:40 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: no, my evening plans got replaced with driver lesson | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | s | 07:43 |
| timoph | ok | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | byako: sorry for ignoring your messages, was fairly busy :) | 07:43 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, you are taking lessons? | 07:44 |
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| Stskeeps | iekku: yeah, so i'll be unavailable at times :P | 07:48 |
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| iekku | :) | 07:56 |
| lbt_ | morning all | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt_ | 07:58 |
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| iekku | hi lbt | 07:58 |
| byako | Stskeeps: what messages? :) no worries :) everything's fine | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | byako: ah, the problems you had | 08:05 |
| byako | Stskeeps: I'm bugging guys from maliit, looks like it's their maliit-server what kills X | 08:05 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: i think you should take a step back and get gles tests passing, nemo isn't likely to be a very fun before that | 08:06 |
| byako | and that fails for some reason, because gconf sets the empty line to one of the props value | 08:06 |
| byako | Stskeeps: will gles tests help somehow to improve maliit stability ? | 08:07 |
| lbt | hey iekku | 08:07 |
| byako | I don't think onscreen keyboard requires some special gles functionality | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | it does | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | composition | 08:07 |
| byako | well, I see the desktop for 3-5 seconds before it crashes :) if it'd had some severe problems with gles it wouldn't bring it up at all, would it ? | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | that's just llvmpipe trying it's hardest | 08:09 |
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| Stskeeps | get gles working, trust me :) | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | is your end result intending to be nemo, or something else, btw? | 08:09 |
| byako | if that means that I try to run meego handset UI from nemo user - yes | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | if that means if you really want to give nemo a try, as it's quite complicated to get working sanely, compared to other UIs :) | 08:11 |
| byako | what I want on this stage is to get meegohome ui stable working | 08:11 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 08:11 |
| byako | well, is nemo equal to the Seattle UI ? | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | then get gles going | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | no, nemo is not n9 ui, it only uses open source pieces | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | though it's the same 'stack' | 08:12 |
| byako | oh, ok I missed the name, let me recall, what was the name of the MeeGo UI ? | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | there wasn't really a name, what runs on N9 is meegotouch framework with closed source UI additions on top (swipe, etc) | 08:13 |
| byako | the one with desktop, not the N9's UI | 08:13 |
| byako | yes, yes, forget about N9, I'm not trying to use that one, I'm trying to use MeeGo HandSet UI | 08:14 |
| byako | I just can't get the name :( | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's as close as you get with nemo | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | we're derived from meego handset ui | 08:14 |
| alterego | 9 | 08:14 |
| * byako away | 08:14 | |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: kicked the stuff again after another python update? | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:33 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: did you catch my update on copyprj last night ? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:41 |
| lbt | so carrying on today ... not going to be 'trivial' :) | 08:41 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, what was the issues? | 08:44 |
| lbt | one time it sat there with no repos | 08:44 |
| lbt | another time one repo built, another said "broken" | 08:45 |
| lbt | --deep-check-project got it to "normal" behaviour | 08:45 |
| * byako is back | 08:46 | |
| lbt | so it sounds like events are firing at the wrong time | 08:46 |
| lbt | and it needs to do some kind of "ignore this project until I've finished" lock | 08:46 |
| lbt | possibly as simple as not copying prj meta until all other copies are done | 08:47 |
| lbt | I've setup some test VMs and we can easily steal a cobs worker when we need | 08:48 |
| lbt | BTW this is just FYI and sharing in case you have any thoughts / are interested ... | 08:48 |
| byako | Stskeeps: mer-gfx-tests doesn't report any errors as far as I can see.. | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | byako: mer-gfx-tests and run ./glestest for instance | 08:50 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: that's what I did :) I got some logs on stdout in console, I got mouse cursor on the LCD. eglinfo also dosn't show any errors | 08:55 |
| byako | and from those logs and info output I can't see any errors | 08:56 |
| byako | so probably, egl is fine | 08:56 |
| slaine | morning folks | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | byako: and use mali gles drivers | 08:58 |
| byako | mmm, yes, but with software rendering, DRI is OFF, swrast is in use.. | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | yes, and that won't work | 09:00 |
| byako | Stskeeps: though it looks like you right, I found one more line in logs: No EGL tfp support :( | 09:00 |
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| byako | ok, to get Mali DRI lib I will need to use r2p2 | 09:01 |
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| harbaum | Why does tizen look like meego/nemo? | 09:29 |
| harbaum | Did they really rewrite the stuff in html5 or _is_ this qt/mtf? | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | look? no idea | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | some apps are efl | 09:31 |
| smoku | it lookl like a Mobile OS. these got pretty standard these days | 09:31 |
| smoku | personally I see a lot of reminiscence of LiMo there | 09:31 |
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| harbaum | The "back" buttons are for example those small left pointing arrows down left in the bottom bar | 09:34 |
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| phako | what's the version of connman used in mer? | 10:14 |
| * phako doesn't have his vm at hand | 10:14 | |
| Stskeeps | check gitweb.merproject.org | 10:14 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Source helps | 10:14 |
| phako | thx | 10:14 |
| phako | ah, that explains | 10:16 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://qtl.merproject.org/7f880208-9449-11e1-a76c-00163e6e0038.html | 11:28 |
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| Stskeeps | odd | 11:35 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: could you kick some of my submits again :) | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | when thunderstorm has passed | 11:42 |
| Sage | ah.. ok | 11:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: which ones do you want kicked? | 12:02 |
| iekku | don't kick the baby | 12:03 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: is gdb available in mer? gdbm-1.8.3-1.11.Mer.armv7l.rpm seems not the one | 12:49 |
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| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: yes, in newer versions | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | gdbm is a database | 12:49 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: hmm, I hope I can use it to find out why the problem with my webkit. fprintf(stderr, "******\n") sometimes block the program too | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: for a real possibility: it is highly likely that webkit has their own logging framework and they do not want to stall when writing to log files, so they mark stdout as non-blocking | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | .. maye | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 12:53 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: hmm, not only the statement printf and fprintf, sometimes only a assignment statement can block that too | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds more weird | 12:55 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: all the strange happens only in MediaPlayerPrivateGStreamer | 12:55 |
| ZiQiangHuan | only in MediaPlayerPrivateGStreamer.cpp | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | we're talking about 'your' webkit, that you use for your html5 runtime, riht? | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:55 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: MediaPlayerPrivateGStreamer.cpp is offerd by webkit, to use the gstreamer as backend | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps try to compile with -O0 as a start | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | and see if it's an optimization error | 12:57 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: -O0? | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes, no optimization | 12:58 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: you think maybe optimization cause the problem ? | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | it's worth checking, just for good measure | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | because optimization errors can be really tricky to debug | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, gdb too | 12:59 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yes, I wiil have a test with -O0 | 13:02 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: and I try to ask why this happen in webkit maillist, but got no good response back to me. | 13:03 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: I thought if this is a common problem with webkit's gstreamer backend, someone else may encountered this too. | 13:03 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: well all that failed from the last set of packages I sent | 13:53 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: Sage: I just got weird thought. Is EGL part of mali driver closed/available for customers with arm license? I mean the DRI2 EGL library | 14:25 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: it's available as a closed blob normally, libegl and libglesv2 | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | mali400 package | 14:27 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: thanks | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | source you have to talk to vendor or arm about, i guess | 14:39 |
| byako | Stskeeps: that's not what I really looking for, I must say - I don't clearly understand what I'm talking about :) I'm not really familiar with graphics stack, but egl requires DRI2 library for interaction, not mali400 package, which contains egl implementation for mali | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | byako: ah | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | byako: mali400 contains libMali , xorg driver usually provides DRI part, http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-exadri2-and-x11-display-drivers.php | 14:42 |
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| Stskeeps | remember there's nothing really standard about ARM graphics | 14:44 |
| byako | yes, I've seen this, I downloaded that, and it seems to contain proper sources, but I just don't get why neither igloo nor mer don't have this library compiled as a shared lib, from this sources only driver is built. Can it be really so that no on just did it ? | 14:44 |
| byako | not like it's not doable | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | it's more like.. the dri functionality is embedded into the egl/glesv2 driver | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the userland | 14:44 |
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| Stskeeps | and the server part for dri is handled by the xorg driver | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | hello repcuut :) | 14:45 |
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| byako | haha, you scared him :D ok, so server gets the mali Xorg driver, than it detects the config which says it should use DRI2 extension, then it looks for a DRI lib - and it's just missing | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | rather, the mali xorg driver -provides- the dri2 interface, instead of the traditional GLX /usr/lib/dri/something_dri.so | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | the errors in Xorg.0.log is from GLX, which we don't have on ARM | 14:47 |
| byako | Stskeeps: AIGLX, yes | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | so generally just ignore that error :) | 14:47 |
| byako | I can't it drops stuff | 14:48 |
| byako | and stuff drops X | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so, you have xorg driver and mali400 package, right? | 14:48 |
| byako | so I have to find out why it tries to use AIGLX instead of egl | 14:48 |
| byako | I have Xorg driver for sure | 14:49 |
| byako | not sure about mali400 though | 14:49 |
| byako | let me check | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | ok, now, for mer to function, your graphics driver (mali400) must provide /usr/lib/libGLESv2.so.2 and libEGL.so.1 , or symlinks to your libGLESv2.so or libEGL.so from mali400 | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | eglinfo from mer-gfx-tests must say mali, not mesa | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | go and change your /usr/share/xsessions/default.desktop to be xterm instead, and remove contents of /etc/xdg/autostart/* | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | so we get a clean, stable system | 14:53 |
| byako | Xsession is failing by itself, i can just run Xorg & and then just DISPLAY=:0 eglinfo | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | ok, that is a better base too | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | remove uxlaunch.service | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | so we start everything manually | 14:53 |
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| byako | aha, just will fix the symlinks in /usr/lib/lib*GL* | 14:54 |
| byako | i've tried to use mali400 | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | make sure the symlinks point at mali400's libEGL and libGLESv2 :P | 14:55 |
| byako | U sure? I've just tried to do that and it totally failed. | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i'm absolutely sure | 14:56 |
| byako | I didn't even get /dev/fb0 | 14:56 |
| byako | who's going to create that ? | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | fb0 is kernel level, none of our concern | 14:56 |
| byako | okay | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | we need to use the graphics acceleration on chip, not mesa | 14:57 |
| byako | right, booting | 14:59 |
| byako | Stskeeps: ok, up and xterm is running | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, now run eglinfo inside it | 15:02 |
| byako | exactly inside? serial console won't do ? | 15:03 |
| byako | i got 'eglinfo: eglInitialize failed' from the serial console | 15:03 |
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| Stskeeps | inside xterm | 15:04 |
| byako | that's hard, I don't have kbd connected :D | 15:05 |
| byako | maybe, I can steal tty ? | 15:05 |
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| byako | I need to put USB in host mode, or OTG, it's in peripheral :( | 15:08 |
| byako | Stskeeps: ok, can you forcast if you will have time tomorrow? I will fix USB tonight. May I ping you tomorrow If I will still need help? Although I got the direction to dig, and will try to make eglinfo show mali instead of mesa | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | su nemo , export DISPLAY=:0; xterm | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | byako: i should be available all day | 15:17 |
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| lbt | having fun phaeron1 :) | 15:48 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: when are we ready for the second snapshot? | 16:03 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: for a new pre release? | 16:04 |
| lbt | yes | 16:04 |
| lbt | snapshot is pre-freeze though | 16:04 |
| mdfe_ | I'm trying to push a new qt version at the moment | 16:04 |
| lbt | I'd like to do it tonight - tomorrow morning is OK too - but I'm leaving for SF on friday morning and don't want to leave it too close | 16:05 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, now, go ahead | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: content freeze is friday | 16:08 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK... pushing button | 16:09 |
| lbt | nooo .... space | 16:09 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: any idea how long it will normally take to get a response email by registering a email address at review.merproject.org | 16:17 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: hmm, it should be quite quickly | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | not sure i ever had to register one | 16:24 |
| mdfe_ | http://pastebin.com/cw7MW0ZC | 16:25 |
| mdfe_ | git complain about a missing commier emal address | 16:26 |
| mdfe_ | s/commier/committer | 16:27 |
| lbt | we really need to consolidate usernames | 16:27 |
| mdfe_ | after that I tried to register via given URL | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: lemme check logs | 16:30 |
| mdfe_ | thx | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: can you /msg me the mail you tried to get it to add | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 16:32 |
| mdfe_ | now I got the reponse email | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | ah, good | 16:32 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 16:32 |
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| mdfe_ | sorry for any inconvenience | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, it's better someone says 'hmm, this works in a bad way' than not at all | 16:34 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: I pushed the qt update (http://review.merproject.org/#change,562) | 16:41 |
| mdfe_ | see ya | 16:41 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: want to wait for that b4 the snapshot? | 16:43 |
| lbt | I'm looking at running "hardlink" | 16:44 |
| lbt | which "Would link ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120209.0.1/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm to ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120419.0.2/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm, would save 1743782" | 16:44 |
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| lbt | ie it hardlinks unchanged rpms across releases | 16:45 |
| lbt | http://linux.die.net/man/1/hardlink | 16:45 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=hardlink&project=Project%3AMINT%3ATesting | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: no, it'll take time to review | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: just snapshot | 16:51 |
| lbt | OK | 16:51 |
| lbt | any issues on hardlinks? | 16:52 |
| lbt | doing a content-based hardlink may lose timestamp info - but I'm not too worried about that | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | you need to verify how it works with rsyncability and apache and createrepo behaviour | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | and you need to compare based on md5/sha, not on filename | 16:53 |
| lbt | yep -c does that | 16:53 |
| Stskeeps | in other news, download.opensuse.org is switching to btrfs, so expect that to not work ;) | 16:54 |
| lbt | that's .... brave.... of them | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: feel free to try it out for our first prerelease, ideally when we're all together at tizen conference | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | then i can complain in person | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:00 |
| lbt | hmm | 17:01 |
| lbt | it works across releases | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | ugh? | 17:01 |
| lbt | not really | 17:01 |
| lbt | which "Would link ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120209.0.1/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm to ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120419.0.2/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/rpmlint-mini-x86-arm.rpm, would save 1743782" | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but what if we only grab a partial release? | 17:02 |
| lbt | so what it does is recursively scan a fs and generate sha1sum of each file | 17:02 |
| lbt | then any files with the same sum have the same contents | 17:02 |
| lbt | hardlinks them (retaining name) | 17:03 |
| lbt | however, iirc, a hardlink also links attr like mtime | 17:03 |
| lbt | which is pretty much meaningless for files under ./Core:armv7hl:0.20120209.0.1/Core_armv7hl/armv8el/ | 17:04 |
| lbt | what I'll do is hardlink the current snapshot to last weeks final pre-release | 17:04 |
| lbt | they're important but not vital | 17:05 |
| lbt | then I'll re-snap tonight | 17:05 |
| lbt | and hardlink tonights snap to mondays | 17:05 |
| lbt | wish me luck .... | 17:05 |
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| Stskeeps | http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-05/cp120053en.pdf - | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | The functionality of a computer program and the programming language cannot be | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | protected by copyright | 17:23 |
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| CosmoHill | hi slaine | 17:27 |
| CosmoHill | slaine: I had to drive though this to get to work yesterday: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/farm_track.jpg | 17:28 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: that would be a bad place to stall | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: that looks like standard roads here in warsaw.. | 17:28 |
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| CosmoHill | it's not something I'm used to but I'm glad I drive there daily cos there's a ditch on the right | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: when you do cross LFS, how soon do you run into things that does not happily cross compile, and instead want to run native? | 17:30 |
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| CosmoHill | chapter 5 - cross compile tools are able run on your host and are used to create the temp system | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so fairly soon | 17:32 |
| CosmoHill | chapter 6 is the temp system used to build your final system, this it for the target arch so you won't be able to run that on your host | 17:32 |
| CosmoHill | look at the last page of chapter 6 | 17:33 |
| CosmoHill | btw we're on #cross-lfs on this server | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, just asking you about on-topic stuff for here :P | 17:34 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 17:34 |
| CosmoHill | my work on it is sporadic at best. I've ordered a tool to fix my powermac and have a raspbery pi on order | 17:35 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: and already workarounds for btrfs limitations are being commited | 17:36 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: interesting link - especially given the Google/Oracle trial | 17:36 |
| phaeron | https://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/commit/a0b765d51dc49226aed68c2885acbfccfd952342#L0R1724 | 17:36 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: ouch | 17:37 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: are you logged in to monster ? | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes, always | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | why? | 17:53 |
| lbt | getting really laggy responses atm - I thought it had crashed | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 17:53 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: it's weird, but looks like changing symlinks of /usr/lib/libGL* matters for /dev/fb0 creation | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | byako: bizarre, perhaps it's a module that gets loaded? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | mer uses devtmpfs, it only does what kernel shows | 18:46 |
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| byako | module? which one? driver is compiled-in, external modules are USB-related only | 18:50 |
| vgrade | byako, not sure what SoC you are on but on amlogic, I insmod the mali.ko which gives me a /dev/mali | 18:51 |
| vgrade | this may need chown to set permissions | 18:51 |
| byako | vgrade: /dev/mali exists, but normally /dev/fb0 is not symlink for /dev/mali, isn't it ? | 18:52 |
| vgrade | no | 18:52 |
| vgrade | once I had mali.ko loaded and symlinks done eglinfo reported arm mali renderer | 18:53 |
| vgrade | EGL version string: 1.4 Linux-r2p1-05rel0 | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | byako: and you're using the mali xorg driver? | 18:54 |
| byako | vgrade: I assume you have /dev/fb0 at that moment ? | 18:54 |
| byako | Stskeeps: yes, picture is identical to the normal one except the changed symlinks for GL libs | 18:55 |
| byako | I will put those back and reboot, probably | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | byako: okay, and libGLES -> mali's libGLES now, right? | 18:55 |
| byako | yes | 18:55 |
| byako | or no.. I can't figure out lib source now, I placed it manually without packaging.. let me check once more | 18:56 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders if to take if to take touchpad or s10-3t to the US.. | 18:59 | |
| byako | transformer has a HW kbd | 19:01 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, s10-3t, more scope for hacking Tizen gift on flight home | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | ffs, I hate it when people write adverts in upper case | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i still hope they'll give us a blackbay running tizen | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:02 |
| leinir | CosmoHill: BUT CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! SURELY YOU LISTEN MORE TO COOL PEOPLE! | 19:02 |
| * leinir ducks ;) | 19:02 | |
| byako | Stskeeps: so libs: yes, symlink leads to libMali.so | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | byako: leads to? there's no unique libEGL.so , libGLESv2.so ? | 19:03 |
| CosmoHill | leinir: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201216464320346/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_60000_miles/maximum-age/up_to_10_years_old/transmission/manual/price-to/5000/make/subaru/radius/60/postcode/cm26sg/page/1?logcode=p | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | can you quickly list mali400 contents for me? :) | 19:03 |
| leinir | CosmoHill: ...srsly | 19:03 |
| vgrade | there is only libmali on later driver versions, egl and gles are symlinked to it | 19:03 |
| byako | Stskeeps: huh? mali400 package provides only libMali & libUMP, anda bunch of symlinks | 19:03 |
| CosmoHill | leinir: I've not even bothed to read it | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | byako: ah, OK | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | byako: and right now, fb0 does not appear? | 19:04 |
| byako | Stskeeps: nope | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 19:04 |
| vgrade | byako, do you have the ump driver compiled in? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | what do you need it for? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:04 |
| byako | Stskeeps: but dmesg shows "Mali: Mali device driver loaded" | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | and what kernel .ko's do you have | 19:05 |
| leinir | CosmoHill: You don't have to read past the first bit... It basically just goes "LOL BEST CAR DEAL EVAH!!11eleventyone" | 19:05 |
| byako | vgrade: I hope so | 19:05 |
| CosmoHill | leinir: "this car is the shit" "no, it's just shit" | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | taking good suggestions for mer watercooler-style channel name.. | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | byako: ok, and Xorg can come up at the moment with working xterm? | 19:07 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, Samsung device was mooted but with the IVI having the BB kernel who knows | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | i can pretty much promise you i won't be on stage this time, so i have no idea what they're giving out ;) | 19:08 |
| byako | Stskeeps: not a chance, /dev/fb0 is absent | 19:10 |
| byako | even manually trying to start X shows : NO /dev/fb0 sign | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | byako: okay, i need to see Xorg.0.log now | 19:10 |
| byako | Stskeeps: pasting | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | and framebuffers are overrated :) | 19:10 |
| byako | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/TrXKHa1u | 19:11 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: okay, can i see ls -R /lib/modules ? | 19:12 |
| byako | Stskeeps: you don't want that :) I have 7 folders in there, I'll give you the /lib/modules/`uname -r` | 19:12 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: that works too | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | byako: do you have something called 'hdmiservice'? | 19:14 |
| byako | Stskeeps: maybe only find [path] -name "*ko" will fit? -lR is pretty link | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | er | 19:14 |
| byako | s/link/long/ | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | hdmistart | 19:14 |
| byako | yesm that is working | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | okay, run hdmistart first, check if /dev/fb0 pops up? | 19:14 |
| byako | that's the way I normally got the picture to the LCd | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | hdmistart & that is | 19:14 |
| byako | sure, I don't need it in foreground in serial console ;) | 19:15 |
| byako | Stskeeps: but no need to start that | 19:15 |
| byako | [nemo@localhost ~]$ ps -A | grep hdmi 1628 ? 00:00:00 hdmistart <defunct | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | i'm looking at http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openbricks.scm/3184 so | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | defunct? curious | 19:15 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: emm, what that does is sleeps until /dev/fb0 will appear | 19:16 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 19:16 |
| byako | that's not what we're looking for | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | which i presume hdmistart & is doing | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | / causing | 19:16 |
| byako | Stskeeps: I doubt | 19:16 |
| * Stskeeps takes a look at hdmiservice code | 19:17 | |
| Stskeeps | byako: http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/?p=bsp/hdmiservice.git;a=blob;f=src/hdmi_service.c;h=cbb88d02418ad98897438d95e94173c76b76b155;hb=f5784d2722df6d09dcf09f13a316531bf80fa973#l411 | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | seems to be what creates the framebuffer | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | so i think we should look into that, before Xorg is started | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | and find out why it's marked as 'defunct' | 19:20 |
| byako | Stskeeps: gosh, that checks for cable to be plugged | 19:20 |
| byako | Stskeeps: I must admit I don't have LCD to plug HDMI output :( | 19:21 |
| byako | if that is the cause, I will be able to continue only tommorow | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | i really wonder who designs these kind of services | 19:21 |
| * byako is looking at the third line in the file : Author ... | 19:22 | |
| Stskeeps | i think we have a similar issue on pandaboard, fwiw | 19:23 |
| byako | with graphics output or with HW acceleration ? | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | hw acceleration without hdmi plugged in | 19:26 |
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| CosmoHill | night Stskeeps | 19:53 |
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| trip0 | vgrade, any news on the new kernal for the 1gig c71? | 20:44 |
| vgrade | trip0, no news, I'm afraid. amlogic released a generic meson 3 kernel but zenithink are still lagging behind | 20:46 |
| vgrade | on a public release | 20:46 |
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| wmarone | the funny thing is how zenithink is leaving money on the table by not complying | 21:11 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 22:23 |
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