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| wmarone | where does the mer platform sdk track the chroots using the SDK? | 03:55 |
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| wmarone | I have a false one breaking my setup | 03:55 |
| wmarone | s/false/old/ | 03:55 |
| wmarone | never mind, found it | 03:58 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:11 |
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| lbt | wmarone: there's a patch to improve that in the next version | 07:51 |
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| Stskeeps | hello decibyte | 08:00 |
| decibyte | hi there :) | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 08:00 |
| decibyte | the heartbreaking realization that harmattan is degenerating day by day, looking for an alternative. | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so it goes | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | we mostly do a core here and nemo has the UI parts for handset | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | core work goes well :) | 08:02 |
| decibyte | haha. i guess it's what brings a lot of people to #mer. | 08:02 |
| decibyte | so, i better also join #nemo too? | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | nemomobile, yeah | 08:03 |
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| decibyte | Stskeeps: thanks for guiding in the right direction :) | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | np, feel free to hang out and ask questions if you have any | 08:07 |
| decibyte | i will. but i'll start looking for answers to the most obvious questions in the wiki. | 08:08 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: are you OK with an "unsubscribe link" as a footer to the mer-general list? https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318 | 08:08 |
| lbt | decibyte: welcome to mer anyhow :) | 08:09 |
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| decibyte | lbt: thanks :) | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: had many complaints? | 08:12 |
| lbt | Just the one - I doubt many have tried to unsubscribe - Denise managed but she still had the welcome mail to hand | 08:12 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: hi again. Did I miss or are there no src.rpm's on releases.merproject.org ? | 08:43 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: wow, you're good at finding the particularities of mer :) | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | byako: so, do you know a bit about what the GPL says about how you should deliver source code? | 08:44 |
| byako | Stskeeps: :) damn | 08:44 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: emm, on request one who uses GPL code should provide all modifications provided in his product. Right ? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | it says something along the lines of that you need to provide scripts and so on that will give you a binary that's similar to how you made it first time | 08:45 |
| byako | okaay | 08:45 |
| byako | and scripts are provided, right ? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | now, because of some particularities in OBS and RPM, the input material (a OBS package) will not correspond to the contents of the src.rpm's | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | partly because the packages sometimes modify themselves to accomplish certain things | 08:46 |
| byako | meh, it's all lyrics :) I don't want to go deep in things here. | 08:46 |
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| byako | maybe after I finish bringing up the fraphics | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | so, in Mer, we deliver full git repositories and a project core description that you can reproduce with a OBS, to remake the entire system and each package | 08:46 |
| byako | I just want to upgrade xorg-x11-drv-evdev package | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | fullfilling the gpl requirements | 08:47 |
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| Stskeeps | sure, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail | 08:47 |
| byako | Stskeeps: thanks :) sorry for boring questions. It's just quite a lot of docs in wiki. | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | it's okay, the question comes up once in a while | 08:47 |
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| Stskeeps | some people see it as "omg you're breaking gpl by not having src.rpms", while in fact, we comply to it | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:48 |
| byako | Stskeeps: no, that wasn't relevant to licenses :) I wanted to put new tarball and rebuild the package | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | then Branch the package to work on it in that page works | 08:49 |
| byako | Stskeeps: sure | 08:50 |
| * byako went reading docs | 08:50 | |
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| byako | Stskeeps: I like how this thing looks. Nicely designed. Not willing to compare it fulle with OBS, but it's a bit easier to find things here. Mostly because it was designed to be used withing one project but different releases. | 08:55 |
| byako | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | OBS is a distribution builder that isn't tied to a certain distro :) | 08:56 |
| byako | :nod: | 08:56 |
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| slaine | looks like I'll have the hardware to start proper device adaptations shortly, teheheheee | 09:26 |
| byako | slaine: which one ? | 09:27 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: do you know is it allowed to use rsa key with empty passphrase ? | 09:27 |
| byako | Stskeeps: from what I see - not really allowed. | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | byako: we can't see passphrase of your private key status remotely | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | so we can't check it | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | if we should make default behaviour saner, then please add that in wiki | 09:28 |
| byako | Stskeeps: so you don't know if it's allowed ? I'm not asking to check anything. That was yes/no question :) | 09:29 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: ok, nevermind, I will get new one | 09:30 |
| byako | thanks | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | byako: the primary objective is to enable easy off-the-street contribution, so we try not to do it too heavy :) | 09:31 |
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| Stskeeps | but yes, from a security POV there should be guidelines for private key storage for submission | 09:32 |
| lbt | like this maybe: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Web_Infrastructure/Policy#SSH_Keys | 09:34 |
| lbt | I admit that's aimed at people with shell access :) | 09:34 |
| byako | lbt: that's what I was asking about. Fits totally. thanks :) third tip is what I was asking about - key must be protected with a passphrase. | 09:35 |
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| slaine | byako: a Pandaboard ES should be here this week as will an Atom Cedartrail. | 09:41 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: 0.3 x86 OK | 09:50 |
| * Stskeeps locates n900 | 09:50 | |
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| Stskeeps | hello MGM | 09:53 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps: you are scaring people off :) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | i know :( | 09:56 |
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| lbt | yay.... bank account approved | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 10:21 |
| vgrade | lbt, nice, OBS meeting later today | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: when is it again? | 10:21 |
| vgrade | 16:00 UTC | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i will be at driver's lessons then | 10:25 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: 0.3 N900 OK | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i think i can say go for .1 | 10:31 |
| lbt | OK | 10:31 |
| lbt | coffee first :) | 10:31 |
| lbt | do you want me to correct+push the 0.2 tag? | 10:32 |
| lbt | I think we should | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:32 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: did you clean up disk space? | 10:35 |
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| lbt | no ... nm. I read the lv name | 10:35 |
| lbt | coffee | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | no | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | leaving that in your capable hands | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Release management meeting in 15 minutes in #mer-meeting | 10:45 |
| lbt | *nod* | 10:45 |
| lbt | hmmm need to do SDK release too | 10:50 |
| lbt | phaeron: ping | 10:50 |
| phaeron | lbt: pong | 10:50 |
| lbt | hey ... can you update on copyproject in the release mgmt meeting | 10:51 |
| phaeron | sure | 10:55 |
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| byako | any xorg/xorg.conf experts? | 11:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ask away | 11:31 |
| byako | what is the criteria xorgs takes to filter udev input devices or does it just grabs all of them applying default inputClass to unknown ? | 11:33 |
| byako | looks like just input subsystem is the criteria | 11:39 |
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| vgrade | byako, check in /etc/X11/xorg.d/ there is a 00-default-input.conf which takes everything, but you can add xx-my-device.conf to pick off a specific device type, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration | 11:48 |
| vgrade | xx being > 00 | 11:48 |
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| byako | vgrade: yes, that's what I did. | 12:12 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, phaeron: can we schedule a forward port of merproject patches to obs master/2.3? | 12:38 |
| slaine | Is phaeron back from the dead ? | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes :) | 12:41 |
| slaine | great | 12:42 |
| slaine | :) | 12:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, I rebased and upstreamed mine last week | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: as they're about 2 months behind | 12:42 |
| lbt | I only know about my patches - we need to have a chat about how to handle any sb2 stuff | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:43 |
| lbt | I assumed we carry them for now | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | sadly yes, i had really expected them to be merged back in feb | 12:44 |
| lbt | ok .. biab ... going to cook dinner | 12:44 |
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| lbt | mmm hot bread + butter | 13:01 |
| Sage | lbt, Stskeeps: do I need to update my osc, build or something for the -next? | 13:01 |
| lbt | build | 13:02 |
| lbt | zypper up in the SDK should get it | 13:02 |
| lbt | thanks - I've not looked yet | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, phaeron: do you know if they've branched 2.3 officially on obs yet? | 13:03 |
| lbt | yes | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:03 |
| lbt | there's a 2.3 branch | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | so for mer productization branch we'd be 2.3 based | 13:04 |
| lbt | yep - typically I rebase on master and allow them to apply to 2.3 | 13:05 |
| lbt | mmm for pull requests that is | 13:06 |
| lbt | but we'll build packages on our rebase on 2,3 | 13:06 |
| * lbt thinks that his clarification may not have been that clear :) | 13:07 | |
| Stskeeps | i think we should have a page that illustrates a bit what mer 'obs' is actually about | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the mission of productization, stable foundation for vendors, etc | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | and well, that it's not limited to mer only | 13:08 |
| lbt | agreed | 13:08 |
| lbt | in fact, ideally, it should not really exist :) | 13:08 |
| Sage | lbt: is there tools build for hosts still btw? or only for the sdk? | 13:08 |
| lbt | Sage: in general we only do SDK | 13:09 |
| lbt | There are some non-SDK targets around | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | 'others are welcome to support and provide packaging for the tools for other distros', that is | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:09 |
| lbt | but we don't test/support | 13:09 |
| lbt | *nod* ... we should find a way to make that easier - could just be links | 13:10 |
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| Stskeeps | jbos, lbt: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319 | 13:11 |
| jbos | perfect | 13:11 |
| jbos | thanks | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | and the idea to have it as a common ground for productization efforts across distros as well.. as an example, tizen would probably need that too | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | or genivi | 13:13 |
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| jbos | mhm RAILS_ENV="production" rake db:setup give me: No Rakefile found (looking for: rakefile, Rakefile, rakefile.rb, Rakefile.rb) | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | what is your $PWD? | 13:41 |
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| jbos | /srv/www/obs/api | 13:41 |
| jbos | ls give: config files log | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: rpm -qa | grep obs-server | 13:42 |
| jbos | obs-server-2.2.128.gite063944-1.4.x86_64 | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | and obs-api ? | 13:44 |
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| jbos | ups | 13:45 |
| lbt | *g* | 13:45 |
| jbos | didn't install on 12.1 since broken dependency | 13:45 |
| lbt | don't use 12.1 yet - are we building for it? | 13:45 |
| jbos | rubygem-erubis was renamed to rubygem-erubis-2_6 | 13:45 |
| jbos | mhm now I get a undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, does our pages state that? | 13:47 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: looking | 13:47 |
| lbt | jbos: where? | 13:47 |
| lbt | "One or more physical or virtual machine with a minimal installation of OpenSuse 11.4 (12.1 is not recommended yet). It should be sysvinit based, not systemd. " | 13:48 |
| jbos | http://paste.jeremiasbosch.de/show.php?id=1023 | 13:48 |
| lbt | jbos: I don't *think* upstream support 12.1 yet | 13:48 |
| jbos | oh its a official appliance image i run in | 13:49 |
| lbt | 12.1 appliance? | 13:49 |
| jbos | killed original obs on it and reinstall | 13:49 |
| jbos | yes | 13:49 |
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| lbt | OK - I wasn't aware - we haven't had chance to test it yet | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: when people ask me how to set up a merproject obs, where should i point to? | 13:50 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: me... until I fix that webpage ... which isn't a bad fallback | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, we need a page :P | 13:52 |
| lbt | we do | 13:52 |
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| lbt | jbos: is your objective a working Mer OBS as soon as possible? | 13:56 |
| jbos | ok i think i needed simply to downgrade the rubygem stuff. | 13:56 |
| jbos | no my objective is to actually have as much trouble as possible (seriously) | 13:56 |
| lbt | OK - in that case can I ask you to use those scripts | 13:57 |
| lbt | and hack them until they work | 13:57 |
| jbos | I use them as doc :) | 13:57 |
| lbt | *nod* | 13:57 |
| lbt | if you log bugs for issues you find on 12.1 installs using Mer OBS packages that would be appreciated | 13:58 |
| jbos | but so far (except of this dependency stuff) they seem to work | 13:58 |
| jbos | it seems there was a upstream update to fix this rubygem issue | 13:58 |
| jbos | I think an uninstall and update would be something benefitial :) | 14:00 |
| jbos | y should think about appliances, this makes it simpler | 14:01 |
| jbos | :) | 14:01 |
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| jbos | :) | 14:01 |
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| jbos | ok, this nil thing was caused be missing spaces in database.yml | 14:24 |
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| jbos | mhm rcobsapidelayed start, where does it log into? | 14:26 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, if I have linked against Mer in OBS, where can I find sources of that Mer? (I need sources of xorg-x11-drv-evdev but in OBS it shows up only under home:bako or ..sage:Mer) | 14:45 |
| sledges | s/bako/byako/ | 14:45 |
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| vgrade | sledges, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail#Branch_the_package_to_work_on_it | 15:00 |
| vgrade | sledges, what board are you on there? | 15:01 |
| sledges | thank you vgrade, but I think I just found it: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/xorg-x11-drv-evdev.git;a=summary | 15:02 |
| sledges | imx53 same with imx28lcd | 15:02 |
| sledges | so da9052 touchscreen is not passing BTN_TOUCH events to evdev :( even evtest shows ok | 15:02 |
| vgrade | are you running an andriod based kernel? | 15:02 |
| sledges | no, running ltib's one, Mer is most friendly with it, and supports the most with patches (except SATA..) | 15:03 |
| sledges | s/supports/is supported by Freescale/ | 15:03 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Source | 15:04 |
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| vgrade | Reminder OBS meeting in 55 mins | 15:07 |
| slaine | hopefully I'll be free to join in | 15:14 |
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| vgrade | how is your OBS going? | 15:15 |
| slaine | vgrade: it's been on hold while I do our support teams work for the last week or so, sigh. | 15:16 |
| slaine | not bitter | 15:16 |
| vgrade | I can tell | 15:16 |
| slaine | I've had it up and running a few times, tore it down again to help lbt test out the upgrades | 15:17 |
| slaine | iirc, the last round worked ok, I just have to setup the MDS and local projects and kick off the recompile | 15:18 |
| slaine | I'll probably do that thursday | 15:18 |
| slaine | leave it running over the weekend | 15:18 |
| vgrade | slaine, I had a quick go with the scripts | 15:18 |
| slaine | what kind of setup where you after ? | 15:19 |
| slaine | all VM's or phosts | 15:19 |
| vgrade | just setting up for experiance really VM's | 15:19 |
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| slaine | vgrade: yeah, that's why I was happy to go through it a couple of times | 15:25 |
| slaine | best way of learning wtf is going on ;) | 15:25 |
| jbos | vgrade, did i read right that maemo / nokia is maybe hosting a community obs? | 15:26 |
| jbos | was something on the active list | 15:26 |
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| vgrade | jbos, maemo community is investigating moving over to OBS builds | 15:30 |
| jbos | ok, so not actually setting up a own obs? | 15:30 |
| vgrade | jbos, utilising current maemo infra | 15:30 |
| slaine | Oh, it's coffee time :) | 15:30 |
| jbos | ok understand | 15:30 |
| jbos | so its an own obs, open for the community :) | 15:31 |
| vgrade | jbos, but if they manage to get OBS targets working then we could pool infra and management resources | 15:31 |
| vgrade | jbos. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-04-23.log.html | 15:32 |
| vgrade | jbos, http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_OBS#Goals | 15:32 |
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| vgrade | also http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.log.html | 15:34 |
| jbos | ack | 15:36 |
| jbos | just a note, before y have same fun as I, do not use official obs build but the mer-tool one for sb2 fun | 15:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I strongly suggest that the page "Building_against_Mer_in_COBS" be renamed to use the string "OBS". | 15:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Right now "Mer OBS" on google search does not list this page on first results. | 15:38 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Because of "COBS," which I've never ever seen anywhere before. | 15:38 |
| Alison_Chaiken | The page was titled by an anonymous user from acn.waw.pl who is part of Mer Governance. | 15:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Unless someone objects soon, I will retitle it. | 15:40 |
| vgrade | COBS is used to differnciate between community OBS and meego.com OBS | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: acn is prolly me ;) | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: it's OK trename | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | to rename | 15:42 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, hope your not driving :) | 15:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Will do then. It's a wiki with version control, after all. | 15:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | vgrade, "Community OBS" would be found by search engine. "COBS" is not. | 15:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | It wasn't that I didn't know what COBS meant! | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: 15 mins to lesson | 15:43 |
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| vgrade | OBS meeting starting in 2 | 15:58 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | vgrade, thanks for gpsd package. About to test on Archos 101g9 today. You be Da Man! | 15:58 |
| jbos | mhm "Undefined subroutine &Build::get_sb2installs called at ./bs_sched line 643" | 15:59 |
| jbos | any clue? | 15:59 |
| jbos | its in scheduler_i586 log | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | install mer 's 'build' | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | and restart scheduler | 16:02 |
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| jbos | mhm I have fakeobs running and there I get also obs - - [24/Apr/2012 18:06:57] "GET /public/source/Core:i586/_config HTTP/1.1 200 | 16:09 |
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| Sage | drivers/staging/omapdrm/omap_gem.c:145:3: error: implicit declaration of function 'drm_gem_create_mmap_offset' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration] | 17:00 |
| Sage | anyone seen that error and happen to know what patch is needed to get rid of that (other than removing the -Werror. | 17:01 |
| Sage | I'm probably missing something essential from my omap_drm patch set for the 3.0.8 kernel | 17:01 |
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| vgrade | pastie,org is broken | 17:35 |
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| CosmoHill | vgrade: use mine: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/pastebin/ | 17:36 |
| CosmoHill | since I got a job I've been watching a lot more news | 17:36 |
| vgrade | cheers CosmoHill | 17:37 |
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| Sage | almost there http://pastebin.com/pc2Lhdi8 :P | 17:44 |
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| jbos | mm now with mer obs, i get this error on setup of obs server lvm volume: http://paste.jeremiasbosch.de/show.php?id=1024 | 18:01 |
| jbos | vg looks like: http://paste.jeremiasbosch.de/show.php?id=1025 | 18:02 |
| jbos | its on the worker, I have actually the issue that after the update the workes didn't get "available" on obs server | 18:03 |
| jbos | they stay dead, however, fetching server code etc seems to work | 18:03 |
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| jbos | lbt is there a way to figure out why a worker is dead? | 18:13 |
| lbt | you don't want to hear "zypper in seance" ? | 18:13 |
| lbt | define dead though | 18:14 |
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| lbt | is the bs_worker process running ? | 18:14 |
| lbt | I need a bit more to go on | 18:15 |
| jbos | the overview in obs is displaying 6 workers | 18:15 |
| jbos | i see log on /obs/log/rep_server.log and /obs/log/src_server.log | 18:15 |
| jbos | however the status in obs webui is redlight/"dead" | 18:16 |
| lbt | you mean the scheduler? | 18:17 |
| jbos | only unexpected is this obs storeage issue i postet some lines before | 18:17 |
| jbos | yep | 18:17 |
| lbt | workers don't have a redlight | 18:17 |
| jbos | exact | 18:17 |
| lbt | so is it running? | 18:17 |
| jbos | oh dear... oh dear... hacking for about 12 hours on this is maybe not a good idea | 18:18 |
| lbt | *g* | 18:19 |
| lbt | the problem is that you begin to lose track of what you've done | 18:19 |
| jbos | well its indeed quite complex stuff | 18:19 |
| lbt | *nod* | 18:20 |
| lbt | almost worth getting consultants who know what they're doing ;) | 18:20 |
| jbos | esp. when you come from a 2.2.995 and make a downgrade... | 18:21 |
| Sage | grrr... would need to revert this commit to get pvr driver to compile (this commit didn't make in to upstream as such) https://github.com/supercurio/android-omap-tuna/commit/b442e52cba6dcffdf5880ca1c2f2625bfc5ee7f2 | 18:22 |
| jbos | :D well as I said, this is for my private obs.... and aggregating info and ideas :) | 18:22 |
| Sage | errr... wrong chan :P | 18:22 |
| lbt | jbos: don't worry, I'm teasing you | 18:22 |
| jbos | I know | 18:22 |
| jbos | I hate it :D | 18:22 |
| lbt | oh, I hate it at times too | 18:22 |
| jbos | but I earned it | 18:22 |
| jbos | :) amazing, it seems to work, | 18:25 |
| jbos | how did that happen | 18:25 |
| lbt | you followed my guide? | 18:26 |
| jbos | ah I tried | 18:26 |
| jbos | but as said... i use some suse 12.1 and i had already a obs 2.2.995 installed | 18:26 |
| lbt | yeah, understood | 18:26 |
| lbt | I'll see about doing an appliance based guide at some point | 18:27 |
| lbt | anyhow... back to work .... l8r | 18:27 |
| jbos | yep, so just for the record here, the trick was to downgrade / force install rubygem :) and just ignore conflicts | 18:27 |
| jbos | ... ;) | 18:27 |
| lbt | *nod* | 18:28 |
| jbos | I also needed to do some hacking on the config files since I'm in kvm's behind a nat (non bridged) and changed the ports | 18:30 |
| jbos | so if someone is looking for similar strange setup, just ping me - i can tell how not to do it :) | 18:30 |
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| * CosmoHill cowers | 19:02 | |
| Hexxeh | Stskeeps: can i bug you a bit about your patch (again)? | 19:02 |
| Hexxeh | i've gotten around that early segfault | 19:02 |
| Hexxeh | it's failing to launch because it can't get a surface now (which is good! progress!) | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | Hexxeh: sure | 19:03 |
| Hexxeh | so i've copied the rpi libs into /opt/vc/lib | 19:03 |
| Hexxeh | and the libEGL.so compiled into /usr/lib | 19:03 |
| Hexxeh | when i launch chrome it fails with a missing symbol: undefined symbol: eglGetProcAddress | 19:03 |
| Hexxeh | seems like that's actually provided by the libEGL i compiled, though? | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | i'd think so too | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | show me the steps you did? | 19:08 |
| Hexxeh | for what? | 19:09 |
| Hexxeh | pretty much everything i did is above | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so, putting together the libegl lib and where you put things | 19:09 |
| Hexxeh | i don't have the two lines I used to build libEGL handy, but they were basically the ones given with the file | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:10 |
| Hexxeh | the lib is here http://radium.hexxeh.net/libEGL.so | 19:10 |
| Hexxeh | so i copied the /opt folder from the firmware repo into my rootfs | 19:10 |
| Hexxeh | copied that libEGL.so into /usr/lib | 19:10 |
| Hexxeh | and then added /opt/vc/lib to my /etc/ld.so.conf | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't look right to me | 19:11 |
| vgrade | don't you need all the libs in the same place | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's missing several egl calls | 19:11 |
| Hexxeh | i'll try recompiling it with my new toolchain | 19:12 |
| Hexxeh | just changed it for a new file, does it look ok now? | 19:15 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, those Mer screenies do bare a striking resemblence | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: as wazd would have said, Simpsons Did it | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpsons_Already_Did_It | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | Hexxeh: yes, better now | 19:17 |
| Hexxeh | Could not load the GL bindings, Check failed: surface_.get(). Unable to create compositor GL surface. | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | progress? | 19:18 |
| Hexxeh | well, no missing symbol now | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'd call it a miracle if you can run a compositor | 19:18 |
| Hexxeh | beyond the scope of that hack? | 19:20 |
| Hexxeh | just tried --use-gl=osmesa | 19:21 |
| Hexxeh | seeing a very screwed up browser running | 19:21 |
| Hexxeh | but osmesa is expected to not work | 19:22 |
| Hexxeh | it was broken in like R18 | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | you can pretty much just assume you can run a fullscreen gl application | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | not composition of multiple | 19:22 |
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| Stskeeps | https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Secondary_Architecture_Promotion_Requirements <- auch | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | All supported platforms must have kernels built from the Fedora kernel SRPM and enabled by default in the spec file. Each kernel must be built in a timely manner for every SRPM upload. | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | that'll be the day | 19:30 |
| InformatiQ | Stskeeps: what is wrong with that | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: the discussion came about with Fedora ARM | 19:32 |
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| Stskeeps | InformatiQ: and it's very difficult to get devices to be == upstream kernel | 19:32 |
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| InformatiQ | i see | 19:33 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i am so happy that the alert system isn't phoning me | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:55 |
| lbt | *g* | 19:55 |
| lbt | yes... I think I'm filtering and filing them .... | 19:56 |
| lbt | not seen any yet | 19:56 |
| lbt | no, they're not arriving here | 19:59 |
| InformatiQ | lbt: moi | 19:59 |
| lbt | InformatiQ: hey there | 19:59 |
| InformatiQ | what's up, how is everything | 19:59 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 19:59 |
| lbt | it's all good :) | 19:59 |
| lbt | Mer's doing well | 20:00 |
| lbt | Tango is great | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | Tango? | 20:00 |
| lbt | Off to SF in a couple of weeks | 20:00 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Community/Tizen_Conference#Argentine_Tango | 20:01 |
| InformatiQ | lbt: you still dance? | 20:01 |
| lbt | of course! | 20:01 |
| CosmoHill | interesting | 20:01 |
| InformatiQ | good for you | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: how did .1 go? | 20:02 |
| lbt | InformatiQ: I organised the music for our dance last week | 20:02 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: working on it | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:02 |
| lbt | moving disk issues | 20:02 |
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| CosmoHill | hi javispedro | 20:11 |
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| javispedro | hi | 20:13 |
| * Stskeeps heads to bed | 20:13 | |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 20:13 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: how would you statically compile mpfr/gmp into a cross gcc? | 20:14 |
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| CosmoHill | I believe that maybe possibly if you follow the CLFS book with modified cflags | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | is it only mpfr and gmp you need? | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:16 |
| CosmoHill | on clfs we use cloog, ppl and mpc | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | well, maybe those too | 20:16 |
| CosmoHill | do you want gcc to contain the mpfr and gmp libraries and / or the programs it creates? | 20:17 |
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| IanWizard | Ok, I'm here, | 20:22 |
| IanWizard | party can start :) | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 20:22 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: I know, right? | 20:25 |
| IanWizard | I've been working so hard, at a stupid job. I quit last week, so it's time to dev :) | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | I'm on my third week of my first job | 20:25 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: yeah, it was my first.. Started out great, ended horridly. | 20:26 |
| IanWizard | I wish you well though :) | 20:26 |
| IanWizard | hopefully yours goes better. | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | I'm on a 6th month trail but thinks get easier / better every day from my anxiety point of view | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | also gets easier working on the tangled web that is their website | 20:27 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: that's exactly what it was for me. It was a three week contract, that turned into a permanent position, at the top of the (three person) company. And basically taking their mess of a site, and making it work. | 20:29 |
| IanWizard | It did get easier as I went, and I find that it gets better, just being more familiar with the site / code / project itself. | 20:29 |
| IanWizard | I don't know how off topic this chan can get, before repremand :P | 20:30 |
| lbt | it's "reprimand" | 20:31 |
| CosmoHill | I am the master of offtopic stuff having caused an entire channel to now talk off topic :/ | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | truth be told it was offtopic before I turned up | 20:33 |
| IanWizard | sorry, I'm tired :( didn't sleep much last night. | 20:33 |
| CosmoHill | aww, how come? | 20:33 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: I have an ipad, and Hulu +, and I just got a bunch of free time :) what do you think? | 20:33 |
| CosmoHill | sounds like me and my dad's kindle | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | my eyes started getting fuzzy at 12, at 12:20 I was still up and reading and at 12:25 I was driving a car :/ | 20:34 |
| IanWizard | I've been in here a bit before, chatted with Sts a few times. It's never seemed strict, so I don't worry too much about off topic. | 20:35 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: I got up thismorning, and first thing, started driving, on a very curvy, very narrow, very fast road. | 20:35 |
| IanWizard | Nearly lost it on the first turn... I chose to slow down after that. | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | the scariest part of my journy is the quater mile outside of work | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | went off the side today and through a bit pothole that splashed the car | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | had the car since 1997 and this is the first time it's really been used for commuting | 20:37 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: cross compiler not needing those libs for running, them being statically linked | 20:40 |
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| CosmoHill | should be possible | 20:41 |
| CosmoHill | I'll give it some thought tomorrow | 20:41 |
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| IanWizard | I suppose my first goal will be compiling for ARM. Get me started with the project. | 20:44 |
| * IanWizard goes to wiki. | 20:44 | |
| lbt | IanWizard: what device? | 20:44 |
| IanWizard | lbt: atm, I'll probably try to get it running on HTC Evo | 20:45 |
| IanWizard | that was my goal with meego , way back. | 20:45 |
| lbt | do you have a kernel and gfx drivers ? | 20:45 |
| lbt | (glibc linked drivers) | 20:45 |
| IanWizard | lbt: I have kernel source | 20:46 |
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| IanWizard | and I can get it all setup (gfx drivers, sound drivers, etc) | 20:46 |
| lbt | you can try: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step#Make_a_kernel_package and help improve it | 20:46 |
| CosmoHill | IanWizard: cross-lfs.org :) | 20:47 |
| lbt | pfft | 20:47 |
| IanWizard | lbt: thx | 20:47 |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 20:47 |
| lbt | then http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | oh god | 20:48 |
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| lbt | CosmoHill: 2, not 1 | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | I went to staples.co.uk but made a typo and ended up on a porn / hook up site | 20:49 |
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| IanWizard | CosmoHill: typo my ass :) | 21:12 |
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| CosmoHill | I wanted to find out how much it would cost to bind a copy of my dissertation, and all i got was tits | 21:13 |
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| IanWizard | Ok, lbt, CosmoHill: here's my only disconnect, on building for my device (I think), with the kernel. | 21:47 |
| IanWizard | Maybe I just completely missed it somewhere, I've been skimming a ton of docs. What do I use for my kernel? | 21:48 |
| CosmoHill | and you're assuming I'd be able to help because...? | 21:48 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: I had thought that you mentioned it, it was just CosmoHill I see though | 21:49 |
| IanWizard | sorry :P | 21:49 |
| CosmoHill | what kind of device? | 21:49 |
| lbt | IanWizard: mmm ... so you know Mer is not a full distro | 21:49 |
| * CosmoHill didn''t know that | 21:49 | |
| lbt | it has no kernel and no UX | 21:49 |
| IanWizard | lbt: yes, but as I understand it, there are kernel requirements to be met. | 21:50 |
| lbt | yep | 21:50 |
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| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide#Kernel | 21:50 |
| IanWizard | lbt: yeah, it's like fso, but better :) | 21:50 |
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| lbt | and http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step this has some scripts which, when you package a kernel, verify the config | 21:50 |
| lbt | I think they got promoted to https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Mer%3ASample%3AHA | 21:51 |
| lbt | so you need to modify that config and add patches for your device | 21:51 |
| lbt | I wrote it to permit people to do patch management in git | 21:52 |
| lbt | 'cos I think that's sane :) | 21:52 |
| IanWizard | lbt: I know you linked that earlier, I think it lost it though. | 21:52 |
| IanWizard | thanks, I'm on track now I think. | 21:53 |
| lbt | np - there's a lot to get your head around | 21:53 |
| lbt | all we ask is that you feedback on issues and help make it better | 21:53 |
| IanWizard | two more things | 21:53 |
| CosmoHill | IanWizard: what country are you from? | 21:53 |
| IanWizard | maybe they're covered in there, sorry if they are. | 21:53 |
| IanWizard | CosmoHill: US | 21:53 |
| CosmoHill | cool beans | 21:54 |
| IanWizard | 1. I see in the pre-req it mentions needing a bootloader. I have a basic bootloader on the device (hboot) that loads the kernel, and ramdisk. Is that sufficient, or does it actually need an independent bootloader? | 21:55 |
| lbt | no, that's fine | 21:55 |
| lbt | mind you, we tend not to use initrd on devices | 21:55 |
| lbt | generally the kernel is very targetted | 21:56 |
| lbt | and it boots quicker | 21:56 |
| lbt | so that's my excuse for not doing the initrd packaging :) | 21:57 |
| lbt | woo - I finished the sysadmin crap and can start the release | 21:57 |
| lbt | I may get to bed before midnight | 21:57 |
| IanWizard | lbt: yay :) site, or something re: mer? | 21:58 |
| lbt | mer release | 21:58 |
| IanWizard | lbt: where are you? UK? | 21:58 |
| lbt | yep | 21:58 |
| IanWizard | lucky guess :) | 21:58 |
| lbt | *g* | 21:58 |
| IanWizard | oh wow. I've not seen that one. That's good. | 21:59 |
| CosmoHill | :3 | 21:59 |
| CosmoHill | okay some of these chapters are rediculus | 22:00 |
| CosmoHill | this last chapter was a single page | 22:01 |
| lbt | IanWizard: did you have a 2. ? | 22:01 |
| IanWizard | lbt: say what? | 22:02 |
| lbt | [24/04/2012 22:53] <IanWizard> two more things | 22:02 |
| IanWizard | oh, yes, I forgot. | 22:02 |
| lbt | [24/04/2012 22:55] <IanWizard> 1. | 22:02 |
| IanWizard | must not be important. | 22:03 |
| IanWizard | ahh, Here's a 2. I can't seem to find the repo (I know, it's right there, i'm just tired), are we on github? | 22:05 |
| lbt | for? | 22:05 |
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| IanWizard | Was it overstepping to assume that there's a repo somewhere, with all of the source for core? | 22:07 |
| IanWizard | TO build the system? | 22:07 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Source | 22:07 |
| lbt | in general you start by building packages | 22:07 |
| lbt | building the whole thing needs an OBS | 22:07 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:About is a good place to look for concepts | 22:08 |
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| CosmoHill | just finished my book and now time for bed, cyas | 22:21 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | vgrade, your instructions (via Vivaldi Wiki) for bringing up WiFi on 101g9 worked. Thanks as always! | 23:51 |
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